This may be more of a philosophical game question:
When is it appropriate to directly come out and tell girls you want to fuck them vs implying it through your communication (IE you invite her over for a movie and she accepts)?
Both have worked for me but I'm leaning towards the latter being more better because women tend to communicate in this covert language and only when they are really comfortable with you or they themselves are very outward do they come out and speak in this manner.
Is the answer it depends on the situation? Or is indirect game always better since the implication is there?
One thing that is good with being direct is that the expectations are being set as opposed to when the implication is there that we "might" hook up gives them the leeway to try to skirt out of the situation without fully committing to the lay.
What are your thoughts? I'd be interested in hearing them.
wonderman73 3w ago
You do what you feel the most confident doing in that moment
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throwaway415 1 1mo ago
I think it depends on the girl. Some chicks respond very well to direct "I want to fuck you right now" type shit. Others want the plausible deniability of shit like "let's go back to my place and watch a movie"
Lone_Ranger 3 1mo ago
Good question. You can be very very explicit without actually saying that you want to pump and dump.
The most important thing is the frisson of danger, the whiff of caddery.
dreams 1mo ago
Can you give some examples? It would be appreciated.
Lone_Ranger 3 1w ago
you have to do it an joking way. It has to be so over the top that its parody. When I'm on the pull, I become a character, like terry thomas. It's clearly an act, and it makes them laugh, but we all know that humour carries a grain of truth.
It's a fine line. You let them know that you are totally unsuitable, an irredeemable womaniser, and this is what they want.
The best reputation a man can have (when it comes to women) is a 'bad reputation'. That you are a philanderer. This is what they want.
So for example, if a woman says;
"no thanks, I'm not interested in coming to your house, I know exactly what you want"
your reply would be
"You see right through me"
If she says
"you're probably here every night, chatting up girls......"
you say
"it's worse that you can possibly imagine.........."
If you play it right, and you lean into it with a smile and a wink, and let them know that this is all pantomime..... they absolutely love it.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1mo ago
If I hadn't fucked them yet, I always had better luck working my way up to it. If you get them isolated, most of the time they are totally down. It's even better when the isolation was their idea, like she invites you to her place for a nightcap.
If we've fucked at least once already, then anything goes. Whisper in her ear that you can't wait to see her titties bounce while you pound her.
dreams 1mo ago
Makes sense, especially the fucked already once part, then anything goes.
Whisper in her ear that you can't wait to see her titties bounce while you pound her.
lmao
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 1mo ago
For the newbies, this is why some of us old fucks get super cranky and start yelling about needing to focus on getting your logistics sorted instead of hyper focusing to a masturbatory level (often literally) on "text game" where you treat pussy like a puzzle you can 100% unlock every time if you just figure out The Right Word Combo.
Get her in a situation where she can fuck you without worrying about triggering her Slut Defense, and she's way more likely to actually do that because it is a self selecting scenario for women that are actually interested in fucking as opposed to women who just want to chat and collect phone numbers or user ID's for their own ego stroking.
A woman that is definitely not interested will avoid being alone with you. Which also means she will make less than zero effort to help with solving any logistics needed to get to the point of fucking.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1mo ago
Yes, whereas if she eagerly assists in getting alone with you, she wants your D.
This is why I consistently tell guys that when they try to arrange time with a woman, if she just leaves it at shit like "I can't" or "I have plans that night" or some lame-ass excuse like "I have to defrost my microwave", then she's not interested and never will be. Quit wasting your time and effort on her and move on.
However, if she's interested but logistics/scheduling are a legitimate issue, she'll say shit more like "that night's no good. How about Thursday instead?" or "my ankle bracelet won't let me more than 200 feet from my apartment, so why don't you just come on over?". For the autists: yes, I'm deliberately using silly examples, but it's to help illustrate the point: if she's interested, she'll work with you, and if she's not, then she won't.
Lone_Ranger 3 1w ago
what is the body language like? does she lean into you, does she touch you? if she stands on her tiptoes to whisper something in your ear, do her breasts 'accidently' rub against your arm?
The body language never lies.
dreams 1mo ago
That's exactly what this girl is doing to me now.
Banged her last week but this week she keeps saying she will let me know when she is free. I've ignored her since but yesterday she sent me a picture of her, and I said she looks good. Thought about being more cold and ignoring it, but I also knew she was fishing for a compliment. So I gave her one. In hindsight I'm not sure this was the right move as she isn't coming to see me and she is clearly looking for validation. After she sent the pic, and she didn't completely believe my compliment I told her to come over and I would show her how good she looked and she again gave me an excuse and said she will let me know when she is free.
I think this time when she messages me I will be less inviting.
No-Stress-Cat 1mo ago
Me: We should hang out sometime. I could come over...we can order Chinese....watch a movie...among other things.
Her: "What other things?"
Me: Sex.
Her: "WOW" O.O *thinking to herself I can't believe he said that out loud...sends nude pics the next day*
Her: "I think I want you to come hang out at my house."
Lone_Ranger 3 1w ago
I was with you until you said 'sex'.
I would play it more indirectly - but more comically. There is no humour in just saying 'sex'. It also sounds a little desperate.
I would say something like...
"Oh I don't know....I'm sure we'll figure something out. A boy and a girl, moonlight, music... you know.... dungeons and dragons???"
The other tac I will take is to invert the roles in a comic way... like saying
"You can come over to my house, but you'll have to promise me to behave. I'm so vulnerable right now... and I have my reputation to think of!"
You put the seed into the convo, but always in a joking way. As soon as you say 'sex' you give her really no option.... they really want to hold on to the doubt right up until you are both butt naked and your purple veiny battering ram is just about to plunge into her sticky love tunnel.
No-Stress-Cat 1w ago
This was an actual encounter I had. Reading the room is also part of the play. I knew this chick was down to fuck, so the build-up of the conversation from being nonchalant to totally dominant was completely in my favor.
But you're not wrong, Mr. Smooth Criminal.