I've taken steps to reduce my resentment and jealousy like I was suggested by users here. I deleted all dating apps, stopped using social media, reduced porn (I was clean for months, fell back into it, now trying to get back on track), started meditating and am trying to focus entirely on making money. I have some interviews lined up next week with high paying jobs and have been preparing for those.
I feel good for the most part but then when I see a cute girl with a guy in public all the feelings of jealousy come back and I start seething again. I know it seems stupid and retarded but how do I stop it? Should I give therapy a go? I feel like paying someone a ton of money just to have them read off some shit they saw in a psychology book isn't going to be very effective. My bad if this is getting repetitive but I legit need to fix this cause its fucking my brain up and living rent free
Musicgoon78 3 1y ago
Why don't you talk to people in real life and schedule some dates? Try living outside of the digital world..
Impressive-Cricket-8 1y ago
Therapy could be great, but it could also be wasted time.
First things first: what would you want to achieve with therapy? You should have a clear goal (even if, later, once it's reached, you set a new goal). Going to therapy just to talk about life will hardly make an impact.
If you have a goal in mind, go look for a therapist. Look for recommendations - there are many therapists out there, and not many good ones. Ask many questions - what kind of approach they use, for how long have they been practicing, and whatever else you can imagine.
Even if you find someone competent, they might just not be a good fit. Don't be afraid to look for a new one. Look for someone who works for you. Some people prefer an older therapist - experience and all -, but there could be a generational gap. Some prefer men, others prefer women. Find what works for you.
At the end of the day, therapy is not magic. You won't get better just because you've attended X ammount of sessions. A good therapist will have you face the things you might not want to face - and then either get rid of them or learn how to live with them. Yes, you could very well do this by yourself, but it will most likely take longer, and you'll be prone to bullshit yourself to not face the hard truths. So, a good therapist could save you a lot of time. But you have to put in the work; just showing up will be useless.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Yes
Broteine 1y ago
Just book the appointment, dude. Why do you need our approval? Thinking about it is reason enough to go and have a chat, just saying.
joyboy 1y ago
I just want to get some opinions. I’m leaning towards trying it out but if they try to ”diagnose” me like Lone_Ranger pointed out I won’t take it too seriously.
First-light 1 1y ago
I think therapy might help if it serves to stimulate your mind into making changes, otherwise it is just paying some overeducated (very probably liberal) jerk to comment on your shortcomings (like we don't all have them) and tell you what to think. If you click with the guy and or the program, it could really help but if not at worst it could be paying someone with a liberal establishment blue pill as hell point of view to patronise and try and indoctrinate you.
I would definitely research the therapy thing before signing up. There is probably a book on that type of therapy you can buy and read to see if you will like it.
You can use a lot of these techniques on yourself if you have motivation -you could do CBT on yourself- but sometimes an intervention by another person adds the human element and that can really help start change.
Lone_Ranger 3 1y ago
I would say no.
The fact that you are asking this question is a sign of progress, but ultimately, I have come to the conclusion that therapy is quite gynocentric and self serving. You are very likely to get bad advice, or even 'a diagnosis'. I can't tell you the number of people that I have met who have been set back years by a 'diagnosis'. You have to remember that that Therapy industrial complex basically makes its living of handing out diagnosis.
You would be far better off simply spending the time, effort and money on developing friendships and networks with other like minded men. You would probably get more value out of volunteering to help other mens groups, such as suicide prevention, esp aimed at high risk mens cohorts.
There are no easy solutions . Most people go to a therapist looking for an easy solution - they want someone to hand them 'the answer'. They are invariably disappointed.
Whatsnext 1y ago
I tried therapy multiple times and found no value, but I went to a program through the VA called DBT intensive program and that was the only therapy that helped me. They did actual skill building and forced me to work on things I dont want to do and held me accountable if I didnt do it
financehardo420 Should i (x1) 1y ago
No; therapy is for pussies.
I think in another comment you mentioned you are 5”5. While that’s not going to kill you; I can see from that how you’ve got some difficulties with the ladies. To clarify: just bc you’re a short king doesn’t mean you can’t get bitches. Plenty of stories ab 5”something dudes that are cool as fuck n get hella pussy. You will however, have to put in a lot more work than the standard 6”2 chad and that’s just how it is.
You say you’ve got a good build of muscle; maybe try cutting to 10-12% bf. Beyond that there’s plenty of things you can do to increase your smv. For starters: good haircut (clean business professional cut, with tapered sides (2 or less) and maybe a fade. Dress edgy: t shirts that compliment your muscles, pants that compliment your figure (think lululemon abcs slimfit; birddogs shorts (4-5in inseam). Good colognes (LV, Hermes, etc). Good hygiene (duh). Extra pro tip: new balance sneakers and Nike air forces give you ~an extra inch. Rock those.
Get those bases covered and overall make sure you look presentable on a day to day basis.
Next: charisma. You develop this overtime by becoming more social and outgoing. Get friends - like minded bros (ideally ones that get bitches). Go out more and just see how ppl interact w each other. Having a solid group of friends to hit the bars with automatically gives you a bit of credibility plus extra confidence(you shoot a shot w a chick; she turns you down; you can laugh ab it w the guys). Smile, laugh, develop a dope personality. Do this well enough and you can become a “life of the party” type of guy. It’s that inner confidence that gets you bitches.
Ppl say a lot you’re not gonna find wifey in the bar/club. And that’s true but rn you don’t need wifey; you just need some bitches. Go to BARS not clubs. I am 5”8 I’ve still got a slight advantage but it’s harder for me to pull in a club than in a bar. In a bar there’s still noise but you can still have convos. Go around and talk to chicks. It’s really a trial n error thing; you’ll see what kinds of approaches get good results vs the ones that don’t. The bar is a great place bc ppl go there literally to meet other ppl.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Therapy isn't for pussies. Too many people cannot work through their thoughts without guided thinking to challenge their broken assumptions about their own cognitions
Expecting some blue haired therapist to fix your shit or talk about women is stupid, but therapy has actual functions
financehardo420 Should i (x1) 1y ago
I feel like Tony soprano would disagree
joyboy 1y ago
I would say I've got the presentation in terms of grooming, style, hygiene etc figured out, I match with hot girls fairly regularly on Tinder (impossible to get them on dates though) so I think spending more time on that would have diminishing returns.
I'm fairly social/outgoing with guys and can make male friends anywhere, the train, the gym, etc. I got invited to like parties and nights out in college but I wasn't able to go. I would say my biggest hangup is having enough interactions girls in social settings. I tried joining yoga and a dance club at my university which was mainly girls to try and socialize with girls and that didn't go well. I think I'm uncalibrated around women who I don't know (I'm not like this on the few dates I've gone on off Tinder for whatever reason)
financehardo420 Should i (x1) 1y ago
OLD been on the decline brotha real life Rizz is where it’s at. but that’s good that means at the bar a girls immediate reaction won’t be “ew fuck no”.
Why weren’t you able to go cause your parents wouldn’t let you? Yea you’ve got a lot of partying and experiences n shit to catch up on man. No shit it didn’t go well you’re trying to take off the rubber floaties and jump in the deep end before u even know how to swim. Honestly get your ass into the bars w some friends; get a couple drinks in ya. Think less do more
joyboy 1y ago
Yeah strict parents pretty much plus i lived far from the campus.
Yeah I’ll try bars and clubs but if i’m being honest I don’t really want to drink, it just doesn’t seem appealing to me. Plus it’s bad for gains so I’ll refrain from it
financehardo420 Should i (x1) 1y ago
…. yeah just keep doing what you’ve been doing up until now; totally going to give you different results.
Maturin_nj 1y ago
Agree completely! Your first line says it all. Therapy is a cope. Jboy is BP in many ways and unable to do what's necessary. Hed contemplate sitting on a couch and tell a beta male psychologist, who can't get laid himself, that he's not getting laid. That's the female and BP way of doing things nowadays.
Time to take action into your own hands Joy and end this once and for all. Plus any date you go on you'll be a thirsty mother fucker which you won't be able hide.
Do what's necessary. Control your life. Don't be influenced by ridiculous societal norms many of which are lies to control you. They want you like this. Now you're about to embark on a good career and some girl will come along to share your resources. And being a thirsty hard up guy you'll take the bait. Just another casualty of big brother my friend
joyboy 1y ago
Lol nope I’m the furthest thing from being used for my resources. The last time I met up with a girl I refused to even pay for 5$ cheese fries from Taco bell
financehardo420 Should i (x1) 1y ago
Lmfao when they say used for your resources this is what it’s meant as: divorce rape. Or having sex w you and then asking you to pay for their rent or car pmt or hair or nails. Make you into free lunch Friday (going out w u, letting you pay for dates, and not putting out) Etc.
The point of it is don’t overly invest ie don’t take some random tinder bitch you’ve never fucked out to a $500 meal at nobu. $5 cheese fries is fine lmfao. There’s happy medium don’t gotta take it to the extremes
joyboy 1y ago
Yeah I get you I cheaped out a bit there. But I still wouldn't buy a drink for a girl or anything like that if she came up to me cause I'm not a sucker despite how desperate/horny I am
financehardo420 Should i (x1) 1y ago
Buying a drink doesn’t make you a sucker lmfao. It’s actually a great way to get a convo started. In college bars drinks can be as cheap as literally $1 on the right day. Even major city bars can have reasonably priced drinks (under $20).
How to avoid getting finessed: say you start talking to a chick at the bar and offer a drink or something; it’s still generally going to be a while before the bartender gets to you. TALK DURING THAT TIME. And if she appears disinterested then just fade her and don’t even buy her a drink. Drinks aren’t that deep and like it or not @ 5”5 (even me @ 5”8) girls will generally not come up to either one of us and start chatting us up. We gotta do it and more often than not that’s buying the first round of drinks. If it’s that deep to ya have her buy the next round smh
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Here's your therapy. That'll be $100.
It's great that you've taken significant steps towards improving your mental well-being and overall outlook. You've already made positive changes like reducing social media, eliminating dating apps, cutting back on porn, meditating, and preparing for high-paying job interviews. Here are some additional strategies that might help you manage those lingering feelings of jealousy and resentment:
Understanding and Addressing Jealousy
Acknowledge Your Feelings: Recognize that jealousy is a natural human emotion. Instead of suppressing it, try to understand why you feel this way. It could stem from deeper insecurities or past experiences.
Reframe Your Thoughts: When you see a couple and start feeling jealous, try to reframe your thoughts. Instead of focusing on what you don't have, appreciate what you do have and remind yourself of your own journey and goals.
Developing Healthy Habits
Physical Activity: Regular exercise can be a great outlet for stress and negative emotions. It also boosts endorphins, which can improve your mood.
Social Connections: Strengthen your relationships with friends and family. Building a supportive network can help you feel more secure and less alone.
Professional Help
Therapy: While you might be skeptical about therapy, it can be incredibly beneficial. A therapist can help you explore the root causes of your jealousy and resentment and develop strategies to cope with these feelings. Therapy isn't just about someone reading from a book; it's about personalized guidance and support.
Mindfulness and Self-Compassion
Mindfulness Practices: Continue with meditation and try incorporating mindfulness exercises into your daily routine. Mindfulness can help you stay present and reduce the impact of negative thoughts.
Action Plan
Set Clear Goals: Continue focusing on your career and personal development goals. Having a clear direction can help you stay motivated and reduce the impact of negative emotions.
Monitor Progress: Keep track of your progress, both in your career and in your personal growth. Celebrate your achievements, no matter how small they may seem.
Remember, overcoming jealousy and resentment is a process. It's okay to seek help and take things one step at a time. Your efforts so far are commendable, and with continued dedication, you can achieve a healthier and more fulfilling mindset.
Lone_Ranger 3 1y ago
this response from @Whytehorse2021 is actually what you would get from spending $8k on a therapist, only better. Because the therapist would see you once a week for a set period and just make mouth noises, which you would forget.
joyboy 1y ago
Damn thanks chatGPT
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Yeah I mean you can use these LLMs as a form of self-directed therapy. Way cheaper. If you hit a wall we're always here for ya.
MyBoyJob 1y ago
✝️ You need something deeper brother.