I've been lurking around the TRP for about 5 months now, and have been hitting it pretty hard lately. I'm in the process of unplugging, but need some advice
About 5 months ago I broke up with my 19 y/o girlfriend of 5 years. About a month before that happened she wanted to go to a bed and breakfast for our anniversary. I had no desire to go, but let myself get talked into it. Being a college student I had close to nothing in my bank account, and attempted to use that as an excuse to get out of it, but she offered to pay for the entire thing if paid her back my half. It ended up being about 200$. We broke up before I had a chance to pay her back, so a couple weeks later I told her I still would.
I'm learning to just take it for what it is, but I still have some resentment towards the bitch. A couple weeks after we broke up she fucked one of my friends after spending the weekend at a local school, which drove me up the fucking wall at the time.
She recently texted me saying "You still owe me money. Give to my friend ASAP" The disrespectful tone on top of everything else says that she doesn't deserve the money I owe her, and I don't plan on paying her. Plus 100$ is still quite a bit of money. Am I wrong in thinking this way?
I ignored her for the time being, but I know she's going to keep asking for the money. Opinions and suggestions would be great.
[deleted] 11y ago
This basically comes down to integrity. Do you want to do something that you said you would or not do it because she fucked you over? That's for you to decide.
jamieoneal82 11y ago
Both of those options are about integrity. The question is whether he values his word over his standards for others.
Edit: Personally I think paying her would be a white knight thing to do. She was disloyal to him and broke her word to him so he owes her nothing.
[deleted] 11y ago
you owe her money, dont be a bitch and pay your debt.
manstyle 11y ago
keep your word, pay your fucking debt.
RedPillington 11y ago
I think it's good practice to her. how much is it worth to never have to talk to her again?
vandaalen 11y ago
Geez. I cannot believe all the comments here. Why would there even be anything to discuss?
Man the fuck up you whining pussy and pay your debt. This is pathetic. Her text isn't even as disrespectful as I would get if you wouldn't come up with the money all by yourself when we made such an agreement.
You borrowed money and now you owe. Simple as that. I can't find the connection to her fucking your friend afterwards. That's just strawmen excuses. After your relationship has ended she is free to swallow any cum she wants to. Just because you are hurt is no reason to not stick to your word and honour your integrity.
TestosteroneFilled 11y ago
Lol. She broke the relationship agreement by fucking his friend. This just means agreements have no meaning to her so he should just tell her to go fuck herself.
Reddthrown 11y ago
This right there. People are confused and believe she fucked the guy before they broke up. It's not the case.
OP, pay your debt and stop making excuses.
manstyle 11y ago
it doesn't matter, before, after, who gives a fuck. he needs to just keep his word.
Sadiebb 11y ago
You know why she doesn't respect you? BECAUSE YOU DON'T KEEP YOUR PROMISES.
leftajar 11y ago
She fucked your friend. That's a low-rent, low-class, whorish thing to do. Tell her to go fuck herself.
edit: to be totally honest, I'm in a similar situation to you with an ex-girlfriend who I lived with. She was so shitty to me, that I was considering not returning her deposit. However, on some level it is about being a man and giving your word. I might be swayed by the other replies in this thread to repay her.
DeanYoung 11y ago
From my view, since the relationship ended. . . theres no reason for you to be attached to paying for it after. Just because you gave your word to your EX doesn't mean you have to follow through on it. That word of loyalty is great but don't give it to people your not going to be affilated with in the future. She is your ex after all. I know a close friend thats been with his GF and she bought a house and my friend helped put down a big chunk for the down payment and after they broke up he didn't ask for it back.
You've given me 3 reasons why you shouldn't pay her
but you've given me 2 reasons why you should pay her
3 beats 2 .. tell her to kick rocks
justdweezil 11y ago
I would repay a male friend if we had a falling out, because I said I would and I don't take my word lightly. Just repay and be done with it.
648262 11y ago
You owe her money, be an adult about it.
I think you're being cheap and I do not strive to be a cheap man, at least not towards others. Pay it and move on, anything else are actions done by a man you don't want to associated with.
rpkarma 11y ago
I'll be honest. I never paid the money I owed my ex after she fucked someone else while we were together. Frankly, you gain nothing by paying her back. It will not win you points in anyone's eyes, your friends will be neutral about it at best, and she hates your guts anyway so no gain there either.
648262 11y ago
It's not about other people's eyes. It's about your own. If you feel you did an awesome thing then you did the right thing. If you're a little embarrassed by it then you might at least have learned what to do next time.
manstyle 11y ago
you gain nothing... except honor, and the knowledge that your word means something. the only points he should be trying to win are with himself.
CarrotTrees 11y ago
Go Dark Triad and don't pay. Fuck her, she's your past.
wall-of-meth 11y ago
Stay true to your word. You said you will pay it back, then you do it. But don't fucking give it to this friend! If she wants her money, she has to come over personally.
Alternatively, tell her she should have calculated that before she fucked your friend. Now you let her cost such behaviour 100 bucks.
flatox 11y ago
i think it is a tough question.. on one hand, you gave the bitch your word. But on the other, she's a disrespectful piece of shit.
CrazySunshine99 11y ago
She talked you into going, that means it was your decision, right? You could have refused.
If she fucked someone else weeks after breaking up with you, I can see why that hurts but do you honestly think you should have any say in who she fucks?
What can you learn from this? Be more selective about what you choose to spend money on and don't let people talk you into spending more than you would like. I used to wash dishes ~10 hours in a row to earn $100 so I know it hurts to waste that much. You just have to decide what your values are and stick by them. If you honestly believe it's right not to pay her back then okay, but stick by it and don't try to weasel.
Personally I think it would be dishonest after you apparently promised her twice (before and after) to pay.
Character is something you either have or don't have. I don't think you can show poor character now while thinking you'll have high character later.
By the way, this is why you shouldn't use excuses like "I don't have the time" or "I can't afford to" when they're not true. People will always argue about logistics.
rp_manifesto 11y ago
You think of 100$ as a lot of money? You'll never be rich.
Misteralcala 11y ago
I would tell her she should consider it 'whore tax' for fucking another guy while you two were dating. You didn't agree to pay her back in writing, so Judge Judy wouldn't even make you pay up.
Calling it a whore tax will let her know exactly where you stand with her and she will drop it. This girl doesn't deserve one more second of your time, so lose her contact info already. Why would you even entertain the idea?
Or you can offer to pay it back to her $20 at a time, in exchange for her services. Do you think this is too harsh? She cheated on you and has the nerve to ask you for money. That is harsh, man. Fuck her and her $100. You don't owe her your time or your money and you need to stand up for yourself and let her know that.
Best of luck.
mordanus 11y ago
These are my favorite types of questions because they have such an easy answer. Just text her back with
8=====D
and be done with her. If she pushes it just maintain frame and be prepared for the backlash. If she brings up that you said you would just say you changed your mind.
[deleted] 11y ago
If you told her you'd pay her back, do it.
Throw in an extra $20 as a gift/apology for being late on it.
This has nothing to do with her. It has to do with you.
RAL9000 11y ago
Why?
rpkarma 11y ago
Are you kidding me? Why? If it was a male friend whom he'd had a falling hot with I would understand, because men care about integrity. But he gains nothing from doing this with his ex, and there's nothing to learn from doing this either. I reserve my morals, principles and integrity for those who've earned it or deserve it. An ex who fucked your best friend isn't one of them.
[deleted] 11y ago
Unconditional integrity goes a long way.
mordanus 11y ago
When I was in the military I learned a valuable lesson about integrity. Integrity is a case by case basis. Don't show integrity to those who wouldn't show it to you in return. You can yammer all you want about how it will make you a better person but it isn't true. If you are honorable to those without honor they will only use it to stab you in the back.
[deleted] 11y ago
Fair point. I just don't like the idea of having people out there that I still owe money to.
RedPillington 11y ago
owing someone $100 over something petty is a poor review though. if she knows his friends, why not put an end to the relationship?
648262 11y ago
Let them stab you. If you put yourself in a situation for it to happen then it's your own fault.
It's not about her. It's about OP and his rumor. I wouldn't ever lend OP money if I knew it was a chance he wouldn't pay me back. He has a reputation to take care of. Making this post shows he has a weakness. Your post reeks of the same. Weak-minded with lack of integrity. Why would anyone want to be around that?
anonlymouse 11y ago
Ignoring her is right. Don't give it back. You don't benefit from doing so, so why would you?