This feels like a breath of fresh air to read. Some common sense at last.

even if you are related or banging, still give nothing. better safe than sorry. (as in "no interaction, no risks, no problems"). we shoud think about ourselves and our personal safety, its most important.

in my 20s I saw a really heavy assault from a chad to the girl (her face was messy with almost closed eyes and lot of blood) ^(I live in a shitty 3rd world country, police don't bother at least you shoot them)

when I go to help her, she just said: he is my boyfriend and can hit me all time he want.

last time I was chilvary of unwanted help

Lol it’s Chicago, you don’t help anyone man or women in Chicago. That city is a dump that’s being destroyed by Lori lightfoot a corrupt and stupid major

Whoops!

If I choose to go up to a bear and start to get mauled because I was annoying it, that's on me. I probably deserve what I'm getting because I influenced that outcome to occur.

Same with being overly altruistic to Women.

Play shitty games, win shitty prizes.

Know your worth, don't throw yourself under a bus for Women that don't deserve it.

I used to be a first responder (EMS). One of the most dangerous places to be is in the middle of a domestic altercation.

I don't help women in public domestic disputes because, at that point, they want to be in that situation.

Follow along.

No mentally stable man suddenly decides "I think I'm going to beat the fuck out of Cheryl after I get this icee. Definitely gonna at least have a yelling match during the previews." Most men are mentally stable and the ones that aren't usually have big ass tells. There are very few Patrick Batemans in the world. If a man is actually abusive, there is a lead-up, indicators, and a general progression of behaviors before Ike Turner time.

When I see a man, in public, yelling at or even slapping a woman, I think:

1. Had it coming.

2. She wants it.

There are too many resources available to women to protect them and get them out of situations like this, from the literal guys with guns, to armies of simps and white knights who stupidly believe that all women are deserving of protection. If a woman is being publicly abused, then the abuse has gone on for much longer in other areas and she has had many opportunities to have it ended. She could literally have it ended right there with a simple cry for help.

A woman being publicly abused has not only avoided seeking help, but has probably refused the help offered numerous times because the abuse keeps her on that emotional rollercoaster.

This happened here in Washington. I do not help women I do not know nor will stop to pull over on a freeway go assist them. Be careful out there men of all races who are on this forum.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/two-men-shot-south-seattle-trying-help-assaulted-woman/LWO3URIZWJDLJBT3ISXRBFR4ZA/?outputType=amp

(Yeah, she's a 304. Her boyfriend - who's now a murderer - is an
unemployed mentally ill fuck. She picked him, most likely because he
could really blow her back out. Unfortunately, that's probably over,
because he blew another man's brains out.)

I'm so glad you spotted this. She literally chose to spend time with a guy who was mentally unstable. What did she think was going to happen?

We really must learn to leave women alone in situations such as this, much though it leaves forces me to go against my programming.

"But he gave me the tingles, so he must be Mr right???"

Women operate on emotion, which is why they always make such disastrous choices. DON'T be her backup plan, her escape clause, her beta protector...as the OP said, let her deal with the stupid life choices she made.

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Hope I'll be able to use this advice once I grow up

Sound advice for all men.

Phrase it thusly:

Treat women equally.

I can relate. I was once captain sava-a-ho. Helped a homeless girl out who had her autistic kid, she ended up trashing my place because she didn't like that I told her she needs to save instead of spending her money on new clothes, she then called the cops on me, luckily the cops came and sympathized with me, wrote it up as me calling her and escorted her out...could have easily ended up with ne in jail.

$100 she would have dumped the guy a long time ago if he was "boring" and then this would have never happened...

I give this advice to all my younger homies. Back in 2005 I almost got arrested for some BS. I was home for some leave visiting family, was riding the 40 Bus to the mall.

Saw some dude on the same bus I was on screaming at and holding his girlfriend to the seat.

This was in the hood, back in Crenshaw, and I was the big bad marine. I got this dude off her, pinned him down, police were called. As soon as they got there she changed her tune and did not admit to the abuse he was giving her. Instead she said I'm some random guy who attacked her boyfriend. I was put in handcuffs.

If it wasn't for everyone else defending me, I would've been arrested that night. She didn't give a fuck about being in a choke hold or being slapped multiple times. She didn't give a fuck I was the only one on the bus trying to help.

So I stopped helping. I'm not putting myself in a situation where I can't take care of my own people's just to help a stranger anymore. As fucked up as it sounds, my life was just started but it was almost ruined for being a nice guy.

What's 304?

Have any been burned here from helping a gf you thought was really nice then she turned out to be not so?

Only help women who bring value to your life , period . Overall solid advice

Do you think this mentally ill, violent, unemployed, probably homeless shitbag has ever had trouble finding a girlfriend in his entire life. Meanwhile, gainfully employed nice respectful guys ask "why can't I find a girlfriend?" and many corners of the Internet will respond "try harder and stop being so entitled, you Nice Guy incel jerk".

Once helped a female coworker by giving her money so her car wouldn’t run out of gas. Never paid me back. Lesson learned from that day forward.

C’mon. Just when someone thought the only good man is the dead man /s

A man should NEVER, EVER get involved with any domestic depute with a man and a woman that he doesn't know.....Even police officers absolutely hate dealing with such situations as the woman in most cases is the one who instigated the drama and sides with the so-called abuser etc.

In a lot of countries the "save a hoe" trap for business men is a woman at a car with a flat or open bonnet.

While he stops another one steals his belongings from the car.

Another "save a hoe" or chivalry trick is that she stumbles into him or falls and while he helps they have the purse.

Never help a woman.

Here a 50yo who wanted to help one who was arguing with two guys was stabbed to death. You can see the video still in the net.

He had a wife and two minors depending on him.

Also

Never ever help a child.

It is the parents task.

There are so many false accusations "he touched me..." that you can't do anything but call cops.

World has changed.

The greatest love was termed laying down your life for a friend. Not for a random stranger.

At the end of the day, that man abusing her has probably done it before. So either he is a sex god or a massive wallet. She has every reason to protect his honor over the random champion that decided to save the day. This isn't Saint George and the Dragon where the knight received the (virgin) damsel in reward for his heroic action. You could very well be facing arrest charges after she changes her story.

Offer to help people stay out of trouble; if they refuse and dive into it, they did it in defiance of you. It’s why they get mad at “I told you so”; you’re not supposed to correct them, you’re supposed to expend extra effort pulling them out of the mess you told them not to get into in the first place.

If you’re planning to roam the streets interrupting any fights you see, deck yourself out like robocop. That’s the job of an army, not a random dude. It’s no accident that gangs form groups to protect their territory and police will wait 40 minutes until they’ve secured their 100 to 1 odds. You’re not doing shit on your own, and if people act like you’re supposed to, do a quick check to see how much their supposition involves keeping you armed, trained and compensated for your trouble

Women make their choices. They choose the men they want to be with. They choose the men they want sex with. Let them bear the consequences.

Just to reiterate your point here

Proverbs 26:17 ~ Whoever meddles in a quarrel not his own is like one who takes a passing dog by the ears.

Let me tell you a story, one night my pops and I were leaving from watching one of my brother’s football games. The school is in the hood, as we are taking the back way back home, we see a car with its hazards on, sitting in the middle of the road. My Dad, foolishly stops, we see in the passenger seat, a sobbing woman. She just kept saying, “He took my keys” my dad foolishly asks repeatedly if she needed help. I said we should leave, suddenly homie appears out of the shadows, he glares at us and gets back in the car, they drive away. Had he been a real psychopath, he could’ve pumped us full of lead, we’d have never seen it coming.

Yup, my life is more important. Helping someone who made wrong choices only to die alone while they keep making the same mistakes is a waste of a life.

Women are helped since the begining of their lives. All their lives are solved by multiple men. Just think how valuable would be for society to stop simping.

I was on the train a few months back and this absolute geezer comes onto the train. He must've been 6'6-6'8 and built(not muscle, but just a big build..). He clearly had mental issues and was mouthing off at every single person in the train as he walked past.

I watched him call one woman a slut, the next guy a pussy, then he looks at me and called me 4 eyes (i do wear glasses but mother says i look handsome with them!) - we all just coped it on the chin and kept our heads down. Yeah, I get it, we all wanna be heroes and say "what you call me?" and teach him a lesson, but you gotta pick your fights and im on the way to work so idgaf, call me 4 eyes, i aint fighting you.

Anyway, he continues to insult people and then finally he insults this one girl who decides she won't take it and she stands up and insults him back, semi spitting on him and tripping towards him. He grabs her kinda by the whole body and just kinda choke slams her. She instantly hits the water works and demands a man defend her (of which there was 3 dudes, including me).

We literally look at each other with the face of "I ain't fucking helpin".

Now I mean, had the guy continued to hurt her, we'd have had to do something. But he just moved on after his Undertake style move with a massive smile on his face. She wanted us to instigate more trouble with him, to get him back for getting her.

But honestly, not only did i not want hulk hogan to smash my head in, but even if I won, i'd prefer not having an assault charge next to my name... especially over some wench who probably wouldn't give me the time of day if i asked.

She will learn she either needs to keep her mouth shut like everyone else, or learn to defend herself...

I went to work and enjoyed my day!

This stuff cannot be repeated enough. You are not an ATM machine or a safety net. If she wanted you, she would have picked you first. If she wants to invite garbage into her life, that’s on her. Keep it moving.

This happened to a high school classmate of mine. He stuck his nose in someone else's domestic dispute and got shot and killed in a gas station parking lot. The woman then turned around and told the police and investigators that my friend was the aggressor and her bf had shot him in self defense. Nobody was willing to come forward and give evidence to the contrary so the guy eventually got away with it. Before anyone says anything, this was before we became a surveillance society. Gas stations had cameras to get tag numbers to prosecute drive-offs but not full surveillance of the whole lot.

Several years later I found myself in a similar situation. While pumping gas a fight broke out between some big, and I do mean big, guy and his gf. He literally beat the shit out of her for like 10 minutes until the cops showed up. Dragging her back and forth by her hair, kicking her, even picking her up off the ground by her hair and punching her in the face with his other hand. It was brutal. Nobody, myself included, did a damn thing. I could not leave because I had to cross the battlefield to get to the kiosk to pay so I just stood there with the pump nozzle in my gas tank in case I had use it as a weapon. Eventually the cops showed up and got the scene under control. I asked the woman working the station if this was a frequent occurrence and she said every few weeks a similar situation involving the same people would flare up. She just kept going back to the guy.

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https://youtu.be/fiuHV-jJKio

Relevant American Dad joke.

Good post, I agree. Strange how this idea is not as controversial as it would've been a year ago.

The MOST that I might do to "render aid" is to call the police in the event of an emergency. They're the ones getting paid to risk their lives so leave it to them, I say.

Just imagine inverting the genders of each person involved in this scenario.

No one would question Michelle Bankston minding her own damn business instead of playing Captain Save-a-Joe. Give them the equality they keep screeching about.

Just about every "abusive" scenario a modern woman is in is one she chooses for herself. I learned this lesson lessons high school when I stood up for a female friend that had a guy threaten to punch her, and she spread rumors that i threatened to beat a guy for no reason to impress her. Then that guy jumped me in tree locker room a week later and it got suspended for a week for defending myself. It was a painful but valuable lesson and I'm grateful to that girl for giving it to me in a way that led to no lasting damage.

Shame this guy didn't learn and died trying to be captain save a ho. Unless a woman is signing my checks or having regular, high quality sex with me, shes on her own. And even then its highly contextual.

Several years ago, I saw a man and a woman involved in a physical altercation while I was driving across a bridge and they were walking on the sidewalk. She was trying to walk away from him and was grabbing and shoving her. I didn't even consider putting myself in harm's way. If it's not my daughter, my sister or my wife, her problems are HER problems.

I kept on driving and called the police. It's their job to handle that, not mine.

Or walk away and call the police. Don't get involved personally.

Great reminder.

There was a story that Better Bachelor did.. A couple staged a domestic fight, a foolish good Samartan intervened and started to fight the guy. Suddenly, the good Smaratian felt a knife in him.. the knife was from the woman. The whole thing was a setup to rob white knights.

And on top of all that, you might save the woman , then get a false accusation of sexual assault by the woman.

AND.. 99% likely, if you somehow successfully "rescue" The woman, she will be back together with the scumbag in a week or less.

Now, they show a tick tock video of a woman getting punched and then people are complaining: "How come none of the men standing by didn't step in to help her".. Umm, if the woman initiated or escalated the conflict, she should accept responsibility for what happens. That's another thing that's left out. Does the average guy go around picking fights with guys that are 100 pounds heavier and 8 inches taller than him? OF course not, because that's stupid.. Yet women think it's ok for them to do it.

I remember well when my dad taught my two brothers and I this lesson. We were young, I couldn't have been more than 11 at the time and I'm the oldest of us. We were with him in our large blue van, the kind of van you can move most of a house in. Were caught in traffic and I see behind us this woman running away from a man. They're both on foot and she's a fair bit ahead of him, sprinting through the sidewalk and occasionally slapping the side of a car trying to get them to open up for her. Broad daylight, middle of a weekend.

"Don't do it. Don't open the door" my dad said.

"But she looks like she's in trouble," I said.

"Doesn't matter. You don't know her. You don't know who is chasing her. You don't know why they are running. You open the door, maybe she gets in and we save her. Maybe she pulls you out. Maybe the guy has a gun and shoots us. You don't know."

He didn't say it, but we all knew what would happen to us if we didn't open the door. Nothing.

The two people ran on. Never found out anything about them.

Chicago

Well there's your problem...

There was a video a couple years ago where a guy steps up to defend a girl in a club from her boyfriend... Some other guy runs up and hits the boyfriend and the boyfriend shoots and kills the first guy. I think it happened in Brazil. Don't get involved.

I'll do you one better -

Be the guy treating her like shit if you have to deal with her.

Also, best advice I ever received: No good deed goes unpunished.

I don't help them and i don't feel bad about it. Cause I know when I don't, there are a bunch of white knights who are willing to help with all they got.

You also forgot this is in CHI and its pretty much lawless there. Like 800 murders this year.

If you ever doubt, Just remember women will never do the same for you

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