to try to "get me back into line".

That hurts so much.

My mother used to do that so much when I was a kid. All these kids would be dick to me and I would stand up for myself only for the mother to make me apologize. Eventually I stopped telling her everything about my life.

Nowadays she says crap like "I would get you married to a woman who would correct your ways". Like you haven't ruined my life enough. She still can't figure out why I hate her.

micro has found the better path AND it will not be taken from him!

Honor and loyalty are masculine ideals. Expecting them from women is only setting yourself up for disappointment.

I'm the same. Ex-communicated my mother and sisters after my father died. 2nd best decision of my life. The first was ditching modern women 17 years ago. I still donate to NPR and democracyatwork but that's about it. I'd encourage you to have a relationship with your father and make it a don't ask/don't tell thing when it comes to other family. Just you and him. It's his right to spend time alone with his son and it's your right to spend time alone with your father. Nobody else should have a say in how or when it happens.

I wish I could go back in time and spend more time with my father. We were so happy going fishing or hunting or camping or doing guy shit. I remember I'd always see a twinkle in his eye when we connected on a masculine level. The dude was based. He would have mad respect for me when I'd climb up on the crazy horse he couldn't handle and own that shit. I'd have mad respect when he'd carry 100lbs on his back several miles into the wilderness at age 50+. Go your own way but leave no good man behind. When we allow women to control our relationships, we lose out.

Oh and about your ex, fuck that lying bitch. Karma's got a big payback coming for her. The wall is undefeated for 150,000 years.

Good for you for living a more honest life, but be careful you are not living some aspects of those life as counter-response. Be yourself, not the opposite of what you was.

so tell us more about your exes "virginity"

Are you an Indian by any chance?

I'll never forget my BPD feminist ex who still wanted me to go support both of us while she stayed at home to work on her mental issues. She also refused to clean the house. Not that she was incapable, she just wouldn't and would call me horrible names when I tried to get her to help out. On top of that, she hit me once over a bad joke and pulled my hair when we broke up.

Somehow this all was supposed to work in spite of the fact I wasn't sleeping well and seriously depressed from a medical issue, was already traumatized by ex friends backstabbing me (and they were people I grew up with. You'd figure friends from junior high and up would be more loyal) along with a previous romantic partner dying.

Had I managed to get enough work at the time to support both of us I guarantee the housework would've been on me too.

I gave and gave and gave.

At one point it got to the point I was the one to go out and get the food for the house because she wouldn't. Not that she couldn't, she wouldn't.

I made a bunch of bad decisions which is why we broke up, but I wasn't myself mentally and in spite of all that stress and all that trauma even I realized I was putting far more into her than she was into me and that that wasn't fair.

Ever since I swore one important promise to myself: if I ever did, I'd be with someone who gave me as much as I gave her.

That hasn't really happened and so solitude is honestly the only answer. Every time I think I'm wrong, I look around at what's happened to my family and my few remaining old friends and don't regret this decision.

It sucks that you had to go through all this. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. But now you've seen feminism's true face.

Feminism will cut the most sacred family bonds in the interest of keeping its power. Even if your mom knew the truth, she'd probably still think you're the bad guy for cutting her off.

Yup similar story. It's an odd thing to come to the realization that you're really on your own. It's a weird feeling to see someone you thought loved you over the course of years betray you in less then a few days.

Well done for hanging in there. A huge number of men take their own lives in that situation. What's truly disgusting, is that it's not addressed by the media as the tragedy it really is.

Thankfully, my story isn't as bad as yours. I married at 21, thinking I was doing the right thing. We never had any money, her spending habits were atrocious ( learned from her mother) and we split up 5 years and 2 kids later. In March I will be free from child support forever. I think I'll have a party.

"become a minimalist, became a pragmatist, don't go to church, haven't given to charity lately, don't give a shit about our evil society or what people think of me, stay home, play video games, enjoy some booze, enjoy porn, exercise, get lots of sleep, cut out of my life anyone who is woke, materialistic or toxic, I ignore women wherever possible, take care of myself, go hiking, enjoy my solitude, and just generally try to enjoy life and love myself way better than anyone else EVER did."

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Absolutely this to the extreme, I hate you had to go thru the bullshit to see the good in life. Party on my man. I got out in my mid twenties and thank god I never tied a knot or had a kid. Props to you on being a dad even when everything is stacked against you. I hope more men wake up to the fact just how fucked modern "society" is and start moving in a way that benefits them. I'm 4 years younger than you and am SO glad people are waking up. Modern woman and relationships are so screwed up its not even funny.

10/10 post.

I used to be too… While I’ve graduated to giving no fucks, I’m still a very jaded, independent person.

This situation neatly sums up the shaming ploy "Who hurt you?" When women IMAGINE being hurt, they are given endless sympathy. When a good man is hurt, he's mocked. We're told "caveat emptor", "let the buyer beware" and that NOBODY has our back, will pick us up if we stumble, or give us a helping hand. At the same time, we hear "There's no I in TEAM!" and "You need to be a patriot and defend freedom!"

So this is part of a larger social problem, is what I'm saying. Men have allowed ourselves to be exploited by people who unapologetically tell us they'll exploit us. The social contract, the covenant, has been broken.

My response to "Who hurt you?" is "Not someone like you, or one of your ho's, YET. And I intend to keep it that way."

I had similar problems with my close family so I wrote them a no contact letter. It slightly sardonic, but I deliberately remained fact based and pointed out that I didn't feel they appreciated me very much, I felt likewise, and I didn't want to bother exchanging cards and gifts with them anymore and they could have a good life and I could have mine. I know they often would twist my words so I put it in writing and sent out 4 copies. I didn't expect them to react much except chuckle "Ha! Good riddance!" but in hindsight, I realize I was projecting my own scruples onto them.

They went bananas.

One is still butthurt about it 16 years later. It took them 6 years to get their acts together to realize I wasn't kidding and if they gave me any more guff, I wouldn't talk to them. They reached out to me, no apology, which I didn't need since as far as I was concerned, their tail in between their legs was the apology. I didn't crawl to them begging for their companionship on their terms.

The thing about the letter was that it was my Declaration of Independence. I didn't just stop calling them, I said they weren't treating me right (without going into detail about it), and I was done with them. Why should I do the work of teaching them what jerks they are?

I engage in a similar habit to this day: I call people out with a minimum of drama. They don't care about my emotions (heck, they get off on their sadistic tendencies) but rather just take action the same way I discipline my 5 year old: I count to 3 and then it's a timeout. Treat people in my personal life the way a boss treats his bratty subordinates.

Good that younger men are reading more of such cases and pushing the marriage rate down to 0.

Modern women rewards men who do stuff that makes them happy in the present but ruins them in the long term;

Punishes men who think about their long term welfare.

In short women are now to be treated like a rental car: revv it to the max, drive it like you stole it. Not like you bought it for your life time.

If you are okay with the above, go to r/theredpill Else to r/mgtow.

May I ask how old you are?

I'm 52, and I can somewhat relate to you.

I feel like I was lied to by "good" adults when I was a kid - almost like "virtues" were invented by psychopathic authority figures so you'd be easier to control and be taken advantage of more easily by the powers-that-be. "Morality" is for suckers...

Thank you for sharing yourstory, u/Micro_Peanuts

This is exactly what this forum is designed for. To clearly lay out, exactly where all the good men are hiding and why they're no longer interested in wymyns.

This is also a great example of how men don't redpill men, women redpill men.

Have they tried to get back in contact w/ you?