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Natsume25
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Idontcareaboutcars 6y ago
Are you the guy who was homeless few years ago? Hope things seems to be getting better for you.
I think I finally gave up on love around 27 as well. I don't think I am a role model. Still, I think I could be in a much worse situation if I was still chasing unicorns around.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
"How does one drowning man save another?"
-Quote from Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.
I ask myself that question from time to time.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
I'm 26 and I know 99% of the pain mentioned in this post. The wisdom in this 28 minute video made in 1951 really comforts me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWfy0FS8i7g
[deleted] 6y ago
This really hit home for me.
What a fucked up world we live in. In order to survive, we have to kill the one good thing within us - our ability to love. What tragic absurdity.
TheYekke 5y ago
Once you hit 35 that crap is done with thanks to a small drop in testosterone levels. It is then, and only then that you cease to see the wahmen as special and start seeing them what they really are. Liken it to Constantine explaining to the female cop that there is no going back. Clarity is intoxicating and my best years started then and then only.
To clarity!
LittleGanymede 5y ago
We don't lose are ability to love. We lose are ability to feel romantic love for women.
If you want to love I recommend adopting. You'll rediscover that feeling inside you when you have a child to look after.
TheYekke 5y ago
I adopted. When you lose that perfect child to a disease without a cure it tears your soul worse than if it was your own.
LittleGanymede 5y ago
I'm sorry for your loss.
Yet that proves that you haven't lost the ability to love just because you know that women are glorified whores. You can love which means you feel thing things that come with it. Extreme pain from loss.
Love isn't always pretty as you very well know. It makes you question whether you should actually seek it when these are the type of consequences that so often happen because you fall in love. Whether it be a woman or your child.
TheYekke 5y ago
Women don’t hold a candle to kids
LittleGanymede 5y ago
Yep. That's the point. If you think you can't love then have a child and see how quickly that changes your mind.
Directed towards any man that laments the fact that women are gold digging whores.
TheYekke 5y ago
Sometimes they are just frigid.
Sometimes they are just spoiled
And thanks to modern life and man hating laws, they can all do the worst
Don’t think otherwise
AcrobaticAge 6y ago
This hit me in a way I didn' think was posible.
I (and many others here, I'm sure) know what you are talking about. You described that feeling better than I could ever do.
Coincidentially, yesterday I was at school and the teacher began to talk about wishes, needs and desires (I hope those are the exact words. English is not my mother language and this concept is kinda hard to translate).
He told us a desire is not a need, but there's nothing that can stop you when you have a desire, you can even forget about your needs when you have a desire. Desires make us their slaves. Our only goal is to fulfill them.
And when you have no desires, you only want to die.
I was once a suicidal person. I almost killed myself because I had no desires.
Your post reminded me that time.
I have walked a long trek since that time, yet I feel I haven't made any substantial progress.
Fortunately this time I know I'm not alone. Society may not give a shit about me, but there are many people close to me that would really be devastated if I wasn't here.
Indeed. We aren't alone. Maybe women are not what we were taught and we will never be loved the way we would like, but there are many people around us willing to help us when we need them.
hardlifeman 5y ago
Good to remember, but depression is progressive - what do you do when your mental, physical, and spiritual health keep deteriorating? What do you do when you have severe physical and/or emotional/psychological pain that only keeps increasing? Maybe you have desires, and they are meaningful and substantial - but are seemingly or actually out of reach (or, in the case of love, not even real).To what degree should you altruistically continue suffering an increasingly miserable existence, just for the sake of others? Should those who really love you expect that?
It's a permanent solution to temporary problems, sure - but some problems aren't temporary. Some people who pursue all kinds of treatment never get better.
AcrobaticAge 5y ago
Who cares? Couldn't do shit when I was at my "peak", why should I care when I'm not?
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This was strong. I'll keep it in mind the next time I'm suicidal (I'm not being sarcastic).
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Yeah... I've seen it many times. That's why I don't even waste my time getting "treatment".
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
I so want to give you a hug right now.
The kind that combines the arm-wrestle position with a standard hug.
Natsume25 6y ago
Arm drags.
Natsume25 6y ago
Source: former wrestling enthaudiast.
AcrobaticAge 6y ago
Duuuuude... that's the way I greet men I have worked succesfuly with! :o
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
Unfortunately, I haven't found a name for that hug. It's not included in any list "hug types".
To be fair, those lists were written by women, and they don't do that kind of hug.
AcrobaticAge 6y ago
I did a search for "hug types" and "manly hug types" and I only got those kind of lists you talk about and lists made to try to decode what a woman wants to tell you with her hug or how to hug a woman.
Everything hug related revolves around women.
Meh!
They don't know what is like to have a comrade in arms.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
So, should it be called a "comrade hug"?
Yeah, just 36 hours before you looked it up, I looked it up, hence why I know that only women seem to categorize hugs.
AcrobaticAge 6y ago
I like that.
Natsume25 6y ago
A mod of this sub recommended me to you guys. I posted this on his suggestion, wanting to spread this message I wrote down in the darkness of a freshly broken heart.
I hope it resonates with you all. Cheers.
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
I so want to give you a hug right now.
The kind that combines the arm-wrestle position with a standard hug.
Natsume25 6y ago
I'm not a big fan of full nelsons
Rick_OShay1 6y ago
Totally not what I had in mind.
This is it. https://youtu.be/a497SzsQcI0?t=1m33s