It's crazy, but many women who complain how men have no romantic, sexual interest, or refuse to consider commitment or marriage fail to consider your aforementioned list is reasonable, sensible, and practical.
Many women balk at your list mainly because they've disqualified themselves with at least one or more fails relating to your list:
The reason this stuff pisses women off so much is they realize they’ve pretty much disqualified themselves from a good LTR. Most women check off the majority of that list be mid 20’s. They are forced to settle for someone “below them” (from their skewed hypergamous inflated sexual worth). Then that shittest and are unpleasant as hell to the beta simp who gets with him because she subconciously knows he is low value due to the very fact he is with a harpy like her.
For anyone who has an issue with the first point, women need to consider that A) Men do not want overweight women. This will tank any physical attractiveness, where being at a healthy weight will for most women put them at a decently attractive state. B) Men are really not that picky when it comes to attractiveness. Sure, some women are more attractive than others, but if a woman keeps herself in good shape and presents herself well, she should be at least attractive enough to get men's interests. For those that adhere to these principles but are still just unfortunately unattractive, I do have sympathy.
The second and third points are highly important and would also be under the category of having a history of bad judgement. These are probably the only categories that cannot be salvaged or reversed, as women cannot undo the number of men she has slept with or the fact that she is a single mom. It is not just the consequences of women who cannot pair bond or are single mothers that deter men, but also their poor judgement.
The feminist point, self explanatory.
Cooking is not really that hard, you just need some effort. The willingness is a bigger factor than whether or not she would be able to pull of a highly intricate recipe. For most people, if you put in the work at cooking, you will be able to create at least acceptable meals. Everyone should be able to know how to cook, and no talk about how it is "oppressive" will make me think otherwise.
For those that adhere to these principles but are still just unfortunately unattractive, I do have sympathy.
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I hear you on this, but the answer to this basic problem is pretty simple...just date and marry on your SMV level. Some women seem to ignore the fact that "leagues" is a thing.
If you're ugly, go with ugly. If you're fat, go with fat. Cross racial lines if you have to, but I would seriously consider cultural differences as it can sometimes lead to relationship fails.
If you're just plain ugly or refuse to lose weight, it makes sense to go for someone similar to your own SMV.
I don't understand how folks don't get this basic concept.
Every other requirement on the list is just as you stated - reasonable...and yes, men should have requirements because most women have long checklists for what they require in a husband.
The irony for most women and the reason they have so much trouble is many fail to meet the same requirements for the men they look at as husband-candidates.
Oooooo, the blatant misogyny from the fat shaming virginity cult is back to tell us that women should go back to the kitchen because we all know that feminism is the radical idea that women are equal to men.
Notice how there are no genetic physical requirements like breast size, hair or facial structure. The minimum for most men is don't be a land whale, but even that is a desirable trait for many men.
Also not on the list, careers. I don't care how much money you make, how much education you have had, what your resume looks like, and if you can regurgitate some poets scribbling from 400 years ago. I don't care if you have written a novel, are able to debate politics, or provide philosophical insights. As a man, I have already had to do all of those things for a woman to even consider me seriously, so I don't want or need that from her now. The ability for a man to have those traits and also a humble attitude about them is a combination of qualities not shared by his female counterpart. What happens is the more capable a female is the more elevated her sense of self worth and therefore higher arrogance and stubborness.
I want a young, impressionable woman who will follow my lead and raise our young ones successfully. That is it. She doesn't even have to work, just be happy to be taken care of and suck me off when I'm horny. Apparently that is just too much to ask, and so I'll just take care of myself. You can have your fun and careers ladies, just don't look for me to settle down when you've realized that lifestyle isn't satisfying once men stop paying attention to you.
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BewareTheOldMan 5y ago
It's crazy, but many women who complain how men have no romantic, sexual interest, or refuse to consider commitment or marriage fail to consider your aforementioned list is reasonable, sensible, and practical.
Many women balk at your list mainly because they've disqualified themselves with at least one or more fails relating to your list:
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TrumpCardStrategy 5y ago
The reason this stuff pisses women off so much is they realize they’ve pretty much disqualified themselves from a good LTR. Most women check off the majority of that list be mid 20’s. They are forced to settle for someone “below them” (from their skewed hypergamous inflated sexual worth). Then that shittest and are unpleasant as hell to the beta simp who gets with him because she subconciously knows he is low value due to the very fact he is with a harpy like her.
houseoftolstoy Mod 5y ago
All of these are quite reasonable to me.
For anyone who has an issue with the first point, women need to consider that A) Men do not want overweight women. This will tank any physical attractiveness, where being at a healthy weight will for most women put them at a decently attractive state. B) Men are really not that picky when it comes to attractiveness. Sure, some women are more attractive than others, but if a woman keeps herself in good shape and presents herself well, she should be at least attractive enough to get men's interests. For those that adhere to these principles but are still just unfortunately unattractive, I do have sympathy.
The second and third points are highly important and would also be under the category of having a history of bad judgement. These are probably the only categories that cannot be salvaged or reversed, as women cannot undo the number of men she has slept with or the fact that she is a single mom. It is not just the consequences of women who cannot pair bond or are single mothers that deter men, but also their poor judgement.
The feminist point, self explanatory.
Cooking is not really that hard, you just need some effort. The willingness is a bigger factor than whether or not she would be able to pull of a highly intricate recipe. For most people, if you put in the work at cooking, you will be able to create at least acceptable meals. Everyone should be able to know how to cook, and no talk about how it is "oppressive" will make me think otherwise.
BewareTheOldMan 5y ago
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I hear you on this, but the answer to this basic problem is pretty simple...just date and marry on your SMV level. Some women seem to ignore the fact that "leagues" is a thing.
If you're ugly, go with ugly. If you're fat, go with fat. Cross racial lines if you have to, but I would seriously consider cultural differences as it can sometimes lead to relationship fails.
If you're just plain ugly or refuse to lose weight, it makes sense to go for someone similar to your own SMV.
I don't understand how folks don't get this basic concept.
Every other requirement on the list is just as you stated - reasonable...and yes, men should have requirements because most women have long checklists for what they require in a husband.
The irony for most women and the reason they have so much trouble is many fail to meet the same requirements for the men they look at as husband-candidates.
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
Oooooo, the blatant misogyny from the fat shaming virginity cult is back to tell us that women should go back to the kitchen because we all know that feminism is the radical idea that women are equal to men.
[deleted] 5y ago
Notice how there are no genetic physical requirements like breast size, hair or facial structure. The minimum for most men is don't be a land whale, but even that is a desirable trait for many men.
Also not on the list, careers. I don't care how much money you make, how much education you have had, what your resume looks like, and if you can regurgitate some poets scribbling from 400 years ago. I don't care if you have written a novel, are able to debate politics, or provide philosophical insights. As a man, I have already had to do all of those things for a woman to even consider me seriously, so I don't want or need that from her now. The ability for a man to have those traits and also a humble attitude about them is a combination of qualities not shared by his female counterpart. What happens is the more capable a female is the more elevated her sense of self worth and therefore higher arrogance and stubborness.
I want a young, impressionable woman who will follow my lead and raise our young ones successfully. That is it. She doesn't even have to work, just be happy to be taken care of and suck me off when I'm horny. Apparently that is just too much to ask, and so I'll just take care of myself. You can have your fun and careers ladies, just don't look for me to settle down when you've realized that lifestyle isn't satisfying once men stop paying attention to you.