Background: 20 year old university student in Canada. Reading TRP for about 13 months, just now beginning to internalize its principles, it works.
Oneitis: For grades 7-8 my parents decided to send me to an All-Boys religious school. Since I was so young, I internalized everything that was being taught to me (sex before marriage is a mortal sin, never engage in ANY activity that EVEN LEADS TO sex i.e. holding hands, chatting late nights, being alone in the same room). When I got to high school I was floored, so many girls! I hit it off with this one girl in Grade 9, super innocent, petit, not too popular (HB6-7 with makeup on, maybe a 4/10 without). We talked and I eventually asked if she could be my gf and after a day to think about it, she said yes. It took 30 days for a k-close and 8 months for f-close (so much for the religious schooling...) but I didn’t care because I was 15 and just enjoying the female attention. We talked about marriage, what to name our kids, etc. I maintained high SMV in high school by lifting in the school weight room at lunch time, making friends in all my classes, successfully becoming Valedictorian, and getting accepted into a top university for Comp Sci. I was still a TOTAL beta though in terms of frame. Slowly I became more complacent and I was always broke because of dates and a weed habit that I picked up. After 4 years and 10 months I got a call out of the blue from my Oneitis saying that she’s unhappy in the relationship and that she deserves better. I understand now that this was a decision that was likely given much thought and outside advice.
Enter TRP: I was fucking pissed and broken. All that time, all that effort. All those talks. Meeting her family. Becoming close with her mother (she was a wonderful woman). For what? Nothing. I want to point out that I was always RP aware to a small degree because I observed my fellow high SMV friends getting all the girls and providing no commitment. After reading TRP sidebar I realized that this is the uncomfortable truth. However it took me over a year of reading top posts, applying advice, failing, to finally start seeing success.
First Success: Got invited to an old friend’s birthday party. Went with a buddy who also knew her. He introduced me to another girl who was there (big tits HB6-7). We talked for a bit and I asked her to take a pic of me and my buddy. I asked for her number so she could send me the pic. While we were going home she mentioned she was breaking up with a guy, cool.
A week or two later I hit her up asking if she wants to go get ice cream. She said that she just ended things with a guy and isn’t ready right now. I just replied with “Np :)” and deleted her number.
Fast forward 2 months: I get a text from somebody “So how about that ice cream? Haha”. I ask her if she’s free on Thursday and ONLY used texting to set up logistics. She finished work an hour before me so I asked her to drop by my site for a bit. Within 20 minutes of meeting her I took her to a private room and k-closed. We start making out but randomly she says “just to let you know, we’re not having sex”. That’s totally fine. Then she goes “I want to suck your dick but I don’t do that” and I still have no clue what that means. I messed up and hung out with her for 5 hours after we made out even though I know I should have left much earlier (13 months dry spell...). I know this is a very minor success but it feels good after the constant rejections. TRP works guys. Any advice on the LMR’s? I just said “that’s fine” and continued making out.
Alpha_Jedi 5y ago
Everyone starts somewhere, and you're at the beginning of your journey but it's great to see that you're reaching out for help, which is something that a lot of people don't do and it adds so much more time to their learning curve. On the plus side, you're aware of where you're tripping up so there's you're farther ahead than a lot of guys who are still blind to their own mistakes.
In response to your question, you actually played it pretty well for a beginner. LMR is always interesting and sometimes there's not much to be done to change things, which is fine. In that specific case instead of saying "that's fine" I would have either just given her a smirk that says "I don't believe you" or I would have said something along the lines of "then I'm not sure this will work out." A little dread goes a long way. Here's an article that might help with future LMR situations you may find yourself in. Cheers.
everton137 5y ago
You need to learn more. WOMEN DON'T OPERATE FORM PLACE OF LOGIC AND REASON, THEY FOLLOW WHAT THEY FEEL AT THAT MOMENT AND SAY BULLSHIT THEY THINK THEY SHOULD SAY. If you kept slowly escalating pulling of her clothers sucking her boobs... eventualy you would fuck her. And she would say to everyone: ,, Well I don't know it just happened.''
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
Agreed.
Also she has mistaken his asperger for aloofness and outcome independence thus contacted him after few weeks, still thinking about him, still wanting to fuck.
It’s astonishing how many situations OP can fuck up.
FearGarbhArMait 5y ago
When she said we're not having sex, you just keep kissing and escalating. She is telling herself not you. She also wanted to suck your dick and wants you to think she isnt a whore because she doesn't do this, aka she is amazing. Practice does wonders.
She says we aren't having sex, kiss and escalate. Kiss and escalate. She says she wants to give you head pull out your cock, after you nut tell her you want to return the favor. Then fuck her instead.
Scuzzin 5y ago
Fucking gold advice right here.
anabolic92 5y ago
The moment you accept that you are not having sex you are into her frame, don’t even answer when a girl says that, keep escalating.
If she says so it because she is thinking or has thought about fuckkng you. Read about ASD and plausible deniability.
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All good until regret rape charge comes around.
RaughKee 5y ago
The second she says that, she's externalizing that she's thinking about having sex and doesn't want to be seen as a slut. This is the point where I excuse myself and pop a viagra, but you're young so not necessary. Ignore and continue escalating.
mikeyp_88 5y ago
Carry them around with you?
RaughKee 5y ago
Always, and a couple condoms.
doyouevenvape420 5y ago
Just have no expectations bro. If you smash, awesome. If you don't, whatever. If you start thinking or analyzing or feeling like you need sexual validation for your confidence, stop thinking.
chance01 5y ago
Outcome Independence. Learn it, know it and live it.
finclover9 5y ago
Good FR, you did great with the second girls by not being too pushy while at the same time leading the interaction. Don't worry about not F-closing on first or second date. It's a big deal for some girls and depending on your vibe (you don't sound to me to be a fuckboy) it might take a few dates for her to be comfortable. The trick is to keep trying without being creepy or rapey, so she knows you want her that way. Also, younger girls with less experience, or who knows mutual friends of yours, tend to not slut it up on a first date. Keep it up!
Johnnycage007godowar 5y ago
Here my 2 cents cause I have heard the ole "we are not having sex " more than a few times and I found out what has the highest success rate to close - I look them right in the eye and smile so deamonishly it would make the devil himself jealous then I let out a very short chuckle as if we both know the lie she just spat out - the confidence you spew out acts as the lubricant you are about to fuck them with
Nutman-maddog 5y ago
She’s never yours, it is just your turn.
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