In the past I was working at a restaurant as I noticed and old man (62). Let's call him Hans.
Hans came to the restaurant every day, and I noticed that he would basically order everything you would suggest to him. As a waiter, this is easy money. All you need is some charisma. Soon I began to realize that something was wrong with him. He seemed confused, always forgot his car keys, sometimes came in to order something and forgot immediately.
He was in really good shape for his age, drove a nice BMW cabrio so I began talking to him about his life. He told me that he was a professional boxer for 30 years and worked as an engineer in a big company. "Solid as fuck" I thought to myself, but what has happened to him so he became this insecure dude who went from one restaurant to another and still seemed so frustrated and anxious?
One day, he had a few drinks too many and he told me his story. Now guess what gentleman, this guy actually got fucked over by a women. While crying he told me that 10 years ago he met the love of his life......... in fucking thailand, bangkok, red light district. You can imagine under what circumstances he met "the love of his life". He continued "I did everything for this women, I paid her [insert european language] classes, I paid her clothes, I paid her vacations, I paid everything for her. I married her. The sex was so good. But at the moment she got her permanent visa, she broke up with me and just left".
Boom.
This would continue over 1 more year, he visited us almost everyday, sometimes he cried over his ex, sometimes he was just confused as fuck, sometimes he was just a normal old dude with a sad look. Sometimes he showed me pictures of her he still kept in his wallet... all of them were nudes. He was addicted to her like a sex drug and could not let go. He could enjoy is life, he had money, he had time, he could go to thailand and fuck 10 young thais daily but no. All he could think about was this one woman and how she could do this to him. He would even stalk her, he knew that she worked in a thai massage studio (of course).
1.5 years later Hans suddenly didn't appear in the restaurant anymore. As I read the newspaper, I saw his obituary. This guy was depressed and had no more energy. I was sad, because he was a really "nice old man/guy". Some people who knew him said that 30 years of boxing was the reason he died so early and his brain took damage from all the jabs and that's why he was always confused. I don't think so.
The thing is, I can't even blame this thai girl. She wanted to get a better life and took her chance to get out of the red light district. A wealthy, horny old man was her ticket to paradise, all she had to do was suck only one dick, not 10 daily and play the wifey role. It was his fault, he did not see it coming, ignored all the redflags and got poisoned by oneitis.
Be smart, don't be like Hans.
Feel free to correct my grammar and spelling, english is not my first language but I want to improve.
JuliusTestvola 5y ago
Dude it sounds like he was a punch drunk old man. He probably had beta tendencies hence getting played by thai hookers. However, 'being confused' could be from getting punch drunk and the crying could be from low test as a result of trauma.
boy_golden1 5y ago
Did he get the flemmenwerfer?
just kidding, sad story tho
VictxrSenpai 5y ago
So no actual cause of death stated in his obituary?
NikolaGeorgiev 5y ago
"and his brain took damage from all the jabs and that's why he was always confused"
Maybe his brain took damage and that's why he had oneitis.. :)
bestsparkyalive 5y ago
Oneitis is a bitch. I have it right now and it’s fucking me up good. But it’s getting better every day ! Today I deadlifted 315 for 6 reps for the first time and all I could think was hey, everything’s gonna be alright haha.
victor_knight 5y ago
I'll just leave this here.
hmsgrainger 5y ago
That poor man. It sounds like he had PTSD and she was a sociopath. Letting the wrong one in can send anyone to an early grave.
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I had a Thai girl who I met in Australia who seemed completely over the moon with me. Visited her about once or twice a year, great nympho sex and fun hanging out. But in the back of my mind I thought it could be a long con that would cost me $10k+ in visa fees and probably a similar lifetime of sadness if I did get screwed over just for a visa. While her family was rich enough for it to be unlikely (they owned 2 houses and 2 cars so probably better off than me), I knew that was the turning point for me. Improve yourself so you don't have to resort to 3rd world shithole girls, at least for anything more than a good fuck.
I guess I'll never know what would have really happened, but I'm glad of my choice.
No guy who has this happen expects it yet it is really common. Pretty much literally the day of their PR / passport approval, out the door.
AceMav21 5y ago
30 years of boxing could fucked up hit prefrontal cortex inhibiting him from the ability to rationalize against his ex. Even in my most severe case of oneitis at like 15, I only got depressed for like a month.
guhajin 5y ago
This is a great cautionary tale and anyone marrying a girl from a red light district is an idiot, but I do think there are some genuinely decent girls overseas. Not unicorns of course. They're still real fallible people with secrets and all that. Still, culture does play a role and I think where you grow up can affect how you look at relationships.
No reason not to LTR a foreigner - even a thai girl. Just stay a bit cynical about it and make sure she has something to offer you beyond sex. In other words, just screen her like you would anyone.
johnnight 5y ago
Their monogamy was not enforced.
Aesthetic_God__ 5y ago
RIP Hans. It's a sad story..
MarcosDomingues 5y ago
Plot twist: his oneitis was a transgender
six-bible 5y ago
I'm not sure if this story is true since it's overly simplistic and tells a simple story - and real life is generally not like that.
That said, this guy was a real retard if this story was true.
I've been to Bangkok. Yes it's probably the hooker capital of the world (well, Thailand in general is).
Before you go to any foreign country, it's generally good to read up on the typical scams. Read them well and even then, you will still not be 100% prepared for them. And Thailand is the double-black-diamond in terms of scamming tourists; it's a National Pastime for them. China, Egypt, pretty much anywhere else can't hold a candle.
One particularly interesting thing about Thailand are the "hookers" pretending not to be hookers. Not that common elsewhere. They find lonely, ne'vr do well geeky men who SUCK with women completely. They pretend to be their "girlfriend" but always requesting money, for sick relatives or sister's "poor baby" or to "save" them from prostitution (captain-save-a-ho). Of course they will fuck the guy a lot; that's pretty much how they get the guy to do anything. But the guy is "paying" for it whether he realizes it or not. They will spam 'I love you' and shit like that from the stories I've heard.
I mean you see Old Fat geezers there fucking the young impovershed women which is a bit fucked up but I guess that's life.
But on an overnight train I did see some "geekoid" AFC ... he was Canadian and some kind of accountant/ software guy ... with his "girlfriend."
Mind you, this guy looked like Screech from Saved by the Bell --- his girlfriend was probably 5 years older than him, looked decently hot, and tatted up, piercings, etc. In other words, she looked like she knew a LOT of shit and can probably fuck like a prize racehorse ... this guy? Probably lost his virginity to her, who knows. Socially and street clueless. Sheep, meet Lion. He had met her a week ago -- they were "together" now ... and he was paying for a train to ... somewhere, who the fuck knows. Obviously she was running the show.
He had no chance I'm sure. I'm sure she fucked him and then "fucked" him 9 ways from Sunday.
But uh ... you have to be aware of that before you set foot in Thailand. If you're that naive ... well ... god help you.
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_Ozu_ 5y ago
This is a good story as a warning of what to avoid, but this dude didn't die of oneitis, he got punched in the head repeatedly for 30 years.
hulk_hogans_alt 5y ago
Damn that sucks. But come on why would you fall in love with a whore in Thailand? It kinda gives credibility to the whole theory about getting hit in the head too much.
Scheme00 5y ago
I think Anthony bourdain who I really admired killed himself because of his oneitis. So sad guys do this...I was on the verge of living this way until I discovered the true nature of woman.
kc50 5y ago
Wait, where did you read that? Have not seen anything that any woman played a role in his suicide.
Scheme00 5y ago
Joe Rogan on his podcast said that they were friends and Anthony told him right before his death that nobody had ever “made him” that happy before. Then she is found two days before his suicide out frolicking around town being intimate with a good looking young male reporter. Two days later he kills himself. I also heard Anthony in another interview say he was suicidal after the separation from his first wife (I think she cheated). It’s clear that he did not see things for what they were and could not handle it.
rp2626 5y ago
That's a weird one though. The fact he met her so close to his death leads me to believe he had had other problems and the Asia chick was more like the straw that broke the camels back.
EvilPencil 5y ago
He's been married for three times and cucked every single time. With Asia they even went so far as to have an "open" relationship (sanctioned cucking, bet it wasn't so "open" for him).
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banthrow 5y ago
It's not really oneitis, the guy had other troubles. Oneitis was just a symptom.
Me, myself have bouts of terrible, debilitating oneitis, but it's because other more deeper troubles that I have.
BTW which kind of obituary is "he was depressed with no more energy". Who wrote that, his enemy?
SwixSwax 5y ago
I made the mistake of putting all my stock in a woman who I believed loved me as much as I loved her and now I'm in the same position as Hans, devoid of energy and motivation because she used and disposed of me without a second thought. Unlike Hans, however, I've been steadily getting better with therapy and the Red Pill. Hopefully I can keep on this trajectory towards being a complete person again.
BusterVadge 5y ago
You will become a whole person again. I recently went through a tough breakup. Now I've got 3 (working on a 3rd) plates and I'm going to fist one of them this weekend.
I'm so much happier now. Life is full of more possibilities and it feels good to be able to still game younger women (I am 44, I game 25-30 year olds).
You_Know_This_MAN 5y ago
Just read a little of your post history... aren't you in your early 20's??? If so then give me a break. It's a million times easier to recover from just about ANYTHING in your early 20s than your early 60s. You were not in the same position as HANS.
SwixSwax 5y ago
Didn't realise heartbreak was a competition.
six-bible 5y ago
That sucks dude but early 20s, world is at your fingertips.
Forget that ho. As hard as it is to believe, you will find a better woman at some point.
You_Know_This_MAN 5y ago
I'm not trying to undermine the experience you had. I'm just saying you'll be alright and that having abundance mentality is easier when your in your early 20s. Hans probably saw this as his last chance for happiness because he was getting old (which is sad and illogical).
d6x1 5y ago
There should be a law... or two
PerplexingPegasus_ 5y ago
Poor dude was probably only career focused his entire life, reached a certain age and started having a scarcity mentality. Should of known every foreign whore just wants a visa and they’re willing to do anything for it.
finclover9 5y ago
It's a good lesson for all of us not to have oneitis. But as a medical professional his problems were definitely the results of being punched in the brain for 30 years.
Moneyley 5y ago
ignored all the redflags
He was in the red light district lol. If that doesnt tell you to STOP I dont know what does. Cant imagine what he wouldve done in a greenlight district
artificialfather 5y ago
Since you seem to like colors I’ll give you a subreddit idea... Shouldn’t there be a subreddit called the Green Pill that shows the truth behind the world of finances then? Mr....Moneyley?
Moneyley 5y ago
I agree... only problem with that is that the people that comprise it will all claim to be "WOKE" about money. TRP is woke because its for people that are smart enough to know how women really date and how they really are. Money... Money is money, it just is. Money is the personification of TRP, it just is, and it moves forward- regardless of what games are employed.
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A_Bandini 5y ago
Who falls head over heels for a whore? Poor, weak fuck.
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He is dead, give the man respect.
Aggressive_Beta 5y ago
People don’t deserve respect just for being dead
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Well you can at least refrain from using profanity. Doesnt anyones parents here teach basic politeness or has that gone down the drain?
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How does a bad word affect a dead body?
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Its easy to say all this behind a keyboard. I would like to see you say that the man was a "weak fuck" to his parents? Oh yh thought so.
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GodOfDinosaurs 5y ago
Oneitis likely played a role but I'm guessing boxing was the real culprit. CTE is no joke.
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acetylcysteine 5y ago
was hoping this common sense post would be here. depression and mental health issues from cte.
be smart, don't box professionally like hans.
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h4nkz 5y ago
I agree. One thing can make you more vulnerable for other things.
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I mean it all kinda stems from the same place psychologically. Chasing a oneitis and voluntarily getting ur face punched for 30 years are both a bit tryhard. If your masculinity is internally based rather than externally based, you won't need someone [a woman] or something [boxing] else to tell you you are strong.
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It's much better to take on a martial art like judo or bjj than boxing.
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pbar 5y ago
Meh. A guy who makes his living hitting other guys in the head, should know better.
nothing_in_my_mind 5y ago
Wow, she'd rather work in a "massage studio" than be married to a rich beta and have an easy life. Wow.
I read a story like this before. Rich dude married thai porn star. She divorced him and went back to porn (after getting her divorce pay of course). She'd rather do porn than be married to a rich beta.
marcusredfun 5y ago
extremely shocking that women wouldn't find marriage to a sex tourist to be a fulfilling lifestyle
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AnyDoughnut 5y ago
Your story should enlighten the knuckleheads on here who still believe finding a foreign woman is the way to go, as if they are somehow different and better relationship material.
I had a friend who believed foreign women were the answer, so he married one. She filed for divorce the same week she got her permanent resident card.
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I mean the problem is these pussy starved idiots who reek so badly of desperation these foreign gold diggers can detect them a mile away. The ones who shower them in gifts before they've even kissed much less fucked.
If you go into a foreign country and follow TRP principles it's very possible you'd be able to find an LTR there. But the thing is you'd need to live there for an extended period of time not just visit for 2 weeks.
six-bible 5y ago
I must admit, obviously not Thailand, but there are cases where it can work in your favor.
In many countries even in Europe, being an American man adds +2 or +5 to your attractiveness rating, depending.
You can fuck much hotter women there. In my experience this is especially true in France and Russia.
And no, they aren't looking for money or green cards, these are regular women who just think you're a hot dude (plus the American points) and want to fuck you. Many do NOT want to leave the country at all, and I've had women even buy me dinner (if I was short on the local currency).
So yeah I can suss out gold-diggers.
The only problem is the "foreign woman" route? It really only works if you want to MOVE to that country. The women trying to "escape" to the United States have some issues going on in some cases. Unless they are just ambitious - but they probably would have gone here for University in that case.
I must admit though, if you gave me the option of an average American woman or average Russian woman? I'd take the Russian. Hotter and likes men to be men. No fatties there. The only problem is I don't want to live in Russia. And any Russian who moves here will quickly "learn" the American bullshit that seems to make women bitchier.
BewareTheOldMan 5y ago
"It really only works if you want to MOVE to that country."
This is the key line in your summary on marrying/cohabiting with a foreign woman. I've seen expatriates do this with success by either having permanent employment in a foreign country or living off passive income which is much easier since the US dollar does pretty well in other countries.
Older guys usually are the ones who go the passive income route.
Bringing a foreign woman to the United States and completing the resident or citizenship process is hit or miss - sometimes the woman is good, others times the result is exactly the same as a native citizen.
It’s ALWAYS better to maintain residence in the woman’s home country.
EvilPencil 5y ago
That's generally the rule... Bring any woman to the USA they will become American and all that entails within at most a year. Either they marry you for the visa only or they're playing the long game of frivorce rape.
acekilo 5y ago
See this happened daily in the Army and Marine Corp. A lot of Betas are in the Military and these fuckers are Marrying fucking single moms and thinking it's ok. It's really PATHETIC that they think it's right. I don't feel sorry for any of them because it's the same old story over and over.
vandaalen 5y ago
In my opinion risking your life and well-being for the goals of the elites while even being proud of it is the epitome of chump existence, so I am not really surprised to hear this..
BlackCraneStoic 5y ago
A productive slave is a happy slave, apparently. Even if it means potentially stepping on a landmine in some desert thousands of miles from home to fight a war to defend Isreali interests while wearing a 'Murican uniform. Pure bliss.
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2zmoon 5y ago
Marrying a single mom, does not mean anything, nothing on her personality, and it doesn't mean she will use the man she will marry to, also marrying a filipina does not mean she will use you, she can be very loving and caring and she can be the other way.
nofapZero 5y ago
Marrying a single mom is stupid. The money and time you invest in raising another mans child you should be investing in finding a woman to have your own child with.
The only situation I could be ok with this is if the other guy died and she wants to have another kid or something; maybe I'll raise that kid alongside my own. If she just got bored and left some guy -- she's already shown how she handles marriage. If the other guy got bored and left her; she's already shown she can't keep a man. Either way; not interested.
BlackCraneStoic 5y ago
Even if she were a widow she'd never 100% be emotionally invested in you. A vast portion of her affection would be for her dead other that you're just playing rebound on. Single mothers are poison unless you have a kid yourself. Even then it's still a rough bargain.
newgrounds 5y ago
Yeah man raising another man's seed is genius. She definitely makes good decisions in her mate choices and/or is a totally fine catch with no fucked up issues.
EvilPencil 5y ago
Lions don't hesitate to "date" single moms. They simply kill the kids that aren't theirs.
newgrounds 5y ago
Good thing I'm a human and not a cat.
johnbranflake 5y ago
I’m sure there are some that are decent but why bother finding out!
PFCX 5y ago
Fucking preach it bro, proud Army Vet here and did not succumb to the BS.
EscortSportage 5y ago
Cheers, When I was in the USMC i saw this all the time and actually posted about it in the USMC subreddit, so much fun. One marine i met in NC (same thing) met some thai girl overseas married her and brought her to shithole jacksonville NC. One day sitting in class he goes i need to buy my wife a car. I turned around and asked, "why cant she buy her own car?"
he goes oh she doesnt work.
im like WTF why are you supporting another human? and he was a LCPL or CPL so he doesnt make good money,
INSANE!
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Yeah my cousin married a filipino. Of course he got divorce raped later. Lots of betas in the military, way more than you'd think. Almost everyone i knew who signed up was a fuck up in real life...its rarely the first choice for a profession. More of a last resort if you are failing in life.
dark-poet 5y ago
It was my dream to join the military for like 10 years until I was 19, it was all I cared about. A few things fell into place one mushroom trip and completely changed my mind. Almost like a bunch of jenga pieces pulled out and collapsed the tower, one was that the mushroom told me taking life is wrong, another about the subordinating and indoctrinating nature of it all, the lie of patriotism. The jenga piece relevant to this though, is that I saw why I clung to the military as an identity - insecurity. I thought it would make me a man, and that's a hole a lot of guys try to fill by joining the military, that's their selling point to exploit those lacking strong male role models, and the very institution of the 9-5 workweek does it's best to take away fathers from those who actually have them. Funny how it took something that grows on cow shit to realize "You're not any less of a man, if you don't pull the trigger - You're not necessarily a man, if you do." Society/Culture/Advertisers/Rulers etc. construct myths around masculinity to make us do shit and to make us buy shit.
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askmrcia 5y ago
My cousin in the army also married a Filipino. They been together for close to six years. Just had our family reunion and they didn't attend.
So now that I think about it's been three years since I seen them, including his wife spamming our Facebook.
Wonder if they got divorced. Gonna check on that with my mom
UncleChido 5y ago
Lesson learnt; Abundance mentality is almost everything. There is no special one. Pity he didn’t know that.
TranquilThought 5y ago
I agree. After being cheated on only once I've learned to keep a safe reservation of "love", "compassion", "sanity" for myself. I will never commit 100% to anyone. I've learned that at a moment's notice your life can flip a full 180°. I still love and care for my current girlfriend(soon to be wife) but if she came home one day and I found out she was cheating on me I'd just pack up and walk. It's taken me years but I can and will walk on anyone with enough sanity to function. I've dropped life long friendships, Co workers, etc. It's my fail safe for devastation.
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UncleChido 5y ago
I think you’re my brother because I act exactly the same way. My philosophy regarding relationships with people is “There is no permanent friend or permanent enemy, there’s only a common interest”. Many times I’ve seen this manifest to be true. There are 7 billion people on the planet. If someone decides to act up or betrays you, leave them, there’s always a replacement. It goes back to abundance mentality. Everyone should read and internalise TRP.
TheTrenTrannyTrain 5y ago
Abundance mentality is through the roof when you walk around BKK red light districts and Pattaya.
majaka1234 5y ago
Except it really shouldn't be because you're nothing to these girls without 2000THB.
You're literally doing nothing and they will grab anything that moves in front of them.
You haven't done anything to earn or deserve their attention so what are you abundant in? Having $35 on account of a favourable exchange rate?
Congrats, you're abundant in used up pussy that's literally had 3 cocks an hour rammed into it.
Trust me, i sat down in one of the little pop up bars in front of Soi Cowboy one night and watched the line of moronic fat old westerners in flip flops and shorts follow the used up skanks to the short time rooms and 3 dicks an hour is probably me being lenient.
If being in pattaya or the red light district gives you any feeling of abundance then you need to rethink your priorities.
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guhajin 5y ago
Pretty sure that post above was a joke. Also, why were you there? Sociological research? Lol
Drinking, smoking, gambling, hookers, junk food, drugs, and too much television are definitely all poor lifestyle choices and probably bad for your mind, your body, and your longterm success. Pretty sure everybody knows that.
But damn if those things aren't all fun in moderation. TRP seems like an odd place to act morally superior or something.
Yeah we probably shouldn't model our lives after old Thailand sexpats. But maybe that fat dude just doesn't give a fuck. Don't begrudge an old man a blowjob. Lol. Who cares.
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majaka1234 5y ago
Bars were closing at midnight because government was being weird. Pop up bars near that area just run from the side of the street like street food stalls and are great for beers with buddies until 6am.
six-bible 5y ago
I agree with this 100%.
I was there after the 2008 crash in early 2009 and was the only tourist in sight many days. A sea of hookers descend upon you!
There's no ego boost in attracting the attention of prostitutes. Maybe for a very sad, deluded guy who doesn't realize that her "act" is just an act and she's not actually attracted to you.
I'm no Don Juan but I've been in a few rare situations in life where my social status was through the roof and regular hot women were swarming me. Not prostitutes. HUGE difference.
nofapZero 5y ago
Given those things; is there room for some guy with no confidence or experience to get his training wheels on in those situations? I've often seen guy friends be so down and out that I figure -- maybe if I just get them a hooker I can build that initial confidence. If they spent a night or two with two women on their arms going to night clubs and fucking those girls maybe they'd build that base level of confidence.
Not sure how I feel on this topic still -- I kinda see it like the training wheels on a bicycle if you're so far behind that you don't even have the confidence to fuck a fatty.
majaka1234 5y ago
These girls will still game you even if you're paying them.
If you're going to route of flying to a foreign country to bang hookers to improve your confidence then I would say go to an English speaking one like the Philippines and just talk to normal girls.
Seriously, it's not as complicated as it may seem except for when you stay so much in your own head that you psych yourself out.
With that being said obviously you get a great SMV boost from being in south east asia, but despite what some of these guys are harping on about there really are some quality women there who genuinely want to meet a nice guy.
Their physical standards are also interestingly different - surprisingly they tend to want a slightly chubbier guy to settle down with as opposed to the jacked guy. I'm just wrapping up a four month cut and every second comment is "you're too skinny", lol. Going back to a bulk shortly but an interesting observation.
The dudes complaining about shitty low quality foreign women probably met some retired/part time hookers or tourist hunters - I literally got back from a date last night with an 8/10 accountant who pulls in two full time salaries and the equivalent of 15x the average local salary, lives by herself, has two condos, drives a car and is super down to earth - she just literally doesn't having time to go out partying or fuck around on tinder so as a "basic bitch Chad" foreigner you'll never meet that type of woman unless you're chatting to them in a coffee store or being introduced to them with a social circle.
That's the type of girl you're probably more after for LTR but in terms of trying out your game you can literally go anywhere and you'll have groups of girls trying desperately not to giggle too loudly for you to practice on and you don't even need to pay them.
six-bible 5y ago
Nothing against foreign girls. I've been to all over Asia Europe Australia and most recently Russia. Thailand specifically is the hooker capital of the world and the girls sometimes hide that they are hookers. Yes there are real locals that clearly like white men but it's too hard to figure out the difference. The Philippines I'm sure it's a different story - I've never been there but have friends that have been. I'm sure they have hookers but it's nothing like Thailand.
majaka1234 5y ago
The language and culture barrier is huge - that's the big thing.
There's also the fact that most foreigners live in "the foreign area" and rarely get out of there. This is the same in pretty much everywhere you go.
I used to live all over Colombia and all of my expat friends had this same issue as they didn't really speak Spanish this well (enough to get around but hardly enough to make them interesting to a local who didn't speak English) but for someone like myself who fluently spoke Spanish and lived outside of the typical tourist zone I had literally no issue picking up smoking hot high-class lawyer babes who paid their way and lived in essentially what amounted to mansions before cooking and banging their way to my heart.
Yeah sure, I still had my issue with gold-digging whores (that's Medellin for you) who saw "tall well-dressed white guy" and thought $$$$ but that's partly the culture of the city ("las interesadas") and partly the socio-economic factor at play. It's usually pretty simple to figure these girls out and they cut loose if you don't play along as they're looking for the truly dumb guys who fall in love at the drop of the hat and are willing to dish out their cash without using their top head first.
I mean it sounds like I'm spitting out some exaggerated bullshit but think about it in context - a lot of these countries just simply don't have a strong English language culture and that's largely why they're so darned traditional because the West just hasn't had a way to permeate in there.
Outside of the microcosm of a couple of neighborhoods in Bangkok (Nana, Asok and Kaosan specifically) which are an absolute tourist/expat shit-hole you aren't going to be finding the "nice" girls because they have jobs, have a family and a circle of friends and are largely going to be going from one to the other.
So, if you're in a foreign country, don't speak the language, have no knowledge of the local customs, have no social network to speak of to introduce you to anyone, don't have a job to meet anyone, can't walk up to someone and introduce yourself because they don't speak English and the high-class girls won't hang around shitty tourist places because they have a reputation to uphold and you live smack bang in the middle of the place where all the hookers hang out and only go to bars and nightclubs to pick up girls that conveniently have all the time in the world to hang out in bars and have a never-ending list of Instagram pics on boats and in fancy hotels that they definitely can't afford well... how on earth are you going to meet the hot high-class girls that definitely exist?
Of course not everyone has time or the effort or desire to learn any of the above shit needed to integrate themselves in, and that's fine, but don't kid yourself that just because you're not willing to put in the effort that the entire country is literally hookers - you're just the equivalent of a soy boy who can't be fucked going to the gym and then bitches that he can't bench press 50 pounds in which case the problem is squarely you and your lack of effort.
six-bible 5y ago
I usually venture far off the beaten bath into 'no English' zone.
I've found it's fairly hard to get laid with someone who doesn't speak at least broken English (even with translate apps - those are boner killers), but since English is the God Tier language of the World (sorry just true) - and most valuable second language to learn anywhere on Earth (again just true) -- you will still find the odd-ball English speaker in the middle of bumblefuck, albeit rare.
Hell even in China -- a girl didn't speak English but knew Spanish (??) which I am at least conversational in. Why learn Spanish over English in China, who knows, but yeah.
Bangkok was a long time ago, 9 years ago at this point. I was a younger man (21 years) so did meet some hot students. Problem was first one I assumed she was a hooker after 10 days through the scam gamut. I was waiting for the 'scam' or proposition until she bid me good day. That's because when someone approaches you in Thailand speaking English, they will shoot the shit for you for 15 minutes before 'suggesting' some scam. Unfortunately when a regular person does so, you're on high alert. I'm a little more experienced now but yeah.
I did hear a story at the time where a guy fucked some girl and only AFTER she demanded her money ... that probably got me in an unnecessary alert mode. Yeah fucking/ paying for a hooker isn't the end of the world but I wasn't too keen.
I don't think "acting a local" is quite as important as you say, other than the following:
In 'tourist zone', every guy is probably a horny pig with little manners (often drunken stag party idiots), so you don't want to associate with that.
Fucking a tourist just seems sluttier to most girls. If you're there for months, different story.
That said, you can definitely go rogue and off the beaten path. If you go to a small town where they've never even seen a white man (or American) - you're going to make a bigger impact. Girls like some strange exotic man traveler (if you don't look like a braying tourist with map/shorts/camera out) ... and especially if they get to "help you" "teach you" bullshit, some like that as well, being the caretaker or translator. Whatever. Breaks up the monotony for them.
I'm by no means a model or even decent looks. But my standard game/ escalation ladder is a well-oiled and well-honed machine at this point. I kept what works, ditched what didn't. So with that in the toolkit, I can get away with being a 'tourist'. I've heard variations that I'm some sort of Italian womanizer (I'm not Italian).
ddelicia 5y ago
I'm not american but spent quite some time in america, understand both the culture, the language and the mindset, and I can affirm that it's this exact mindset that americans seem to have "English number 1, sorry not sorry" that makes them extremely naive and gullible, statistically speaking alone, english is only the 3rd most spoken language in this world, behind Spanish and Chinese Mandarin. So you being surprised at a girl in China knowing spanish is funny.
Also america has danger but it is relatively safer than a lot of places and this safety also makes americans grow up without what we call Street smarts. Hence more gullible to scams or just bad judgement when abroad, because the standard they have is their own country, so they don't understand or accept things not working, people being greedy over dumb shit, or just plain lying for god knows what reason.
redhawkes 2 5y ago
Abundance mentality is
almosteverything. FTFY.When your mind is in scarcity, you're tempted to do some really dumb shit (that can be fatal like in this case), cos you put yourself in survival mode and become needy, dependable.
OTOH, when your mind is secure (abundance mentality), you don't really give a fuck. Works with everything: chicks, money, friends, job, you name it.