When learning something new it’s always best to verify to see if the it holds up.
And as you can tell from my title, I only bring you more proof to you readers that redpill holds true!
So here’s an example that literally just happened 5 minutes ago. (10:47 CST)
I was taking to this girl that I’ve gotten to know at work (aged 20). She is an intern at my company and came back for the winter break. At breaktime we were talking and she told me that she recently broke up with her bf (aged 30) as we were talking about our plans for the New Years.
She smilingly said she was going to see this new guy (from her class) that she will be seeing this weekend.
In the back of my mind I already knew where this was going I and decided to find out why she left her now ex bf.
So I calmly asked her “what happened?”, -acting aloof (Its funny because when she was here for the summer she would always talk highly of him).
She started laughing and said it was because he got upset and become controlling over the fact this guy (who she is now seeing lol) didn’t like the fact he would walk her to her car at night from campus.
In her defense she justifies her actions by saying being a woman, she is a target at night, and that a group of woman is even a bigger target, so this guy is just “helping” her get to her car safely.
I purposely ignored the fact that her ex was actually on to something and I then asked “I’m sure that wasn’t the reason why you broke up with him, this stuff doesn’t happen overnight ya know”
And she’s like “Oh no, there was this other time when my gay best friend invited me and him out and he had made some homophobic comments, that I didn’t appreciate. There was also this one time where he playfully pushed me to the ground and he started laughing.”
Lastly she smiled as she said “for the past 5 months I’ve been trying to get out of this relationship but I was stuck”
In the back of my mind I started laughing hilariously saying “those mfkers at redpill were so right”
So then I smiled and asked her “but I’m still sure even after all of that, it really wasn’t the reason you two broke up, sometimes guys can be can guys.”
And then she gets a bit quiet and leans in and tells me “You know what it really is, he is a 30 year old blue collar machinist making 50K and he will never be promoted to make more. On top of that I realized I want to get married and have 3 kids and have a family, and he doesn’t want any kids or even get married!”
“Fair enough” I say.
So I then ask, “Is this new guy atleast better than him”? (According to redpill he must be in order for her to swing to the next branch)
Her face lit up with happiness and said “yeah! He is studying engineering just like me so he will be making more money than my ex and he said he also wanted 3 kids, so yeah he is better”.
I replied “Damn, nice....”
And that’s all I needed to know, and then she started talking about how she was going to wear a full face of makeup and was aiming to be the cutest girl in the town her now bf is from. The town he is from is supposedly small so she wants to make an impression.
Anyways I found this whole thing to be hillarious (since I’m only 24 not married and luckily found trp before anything serious happened in my life ) and I felt the need to share. I’ll be honest I was a bit skeptical of redpill, but now I’m not.
That’s it!
Edit: grammar Edit2: haha, yes another thing to point out is the guy was 30 and got with a 20 year old!
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The real observation is a 30 year old machinist was smashing 20 year old puss. My man.
mcjustmatt 6y ago
Lol. "He doesn't even want to get married". Machinist is going to alllllllright
EdViews 6y ago
Lmao yea sounds like the 30 year old knew what he wanted. Hes gonna be fine lol
Sephar 6y ago
Not trying to be a smartass, but just for good measure: the chances of a 30-year old smashing 20 year old puss when it comes to seduction are higher than 20 year old smashing 20-year old puss. Remember that men become more attractive as they get older (32 is their peak age when it comes to sexual attraction) whereas women get less attractive as they get older (21 is their peak age). Everybody is trying to get into the pants of the 21-year old women, because they're most likely to produce (healthy) offspring. It's our evolutionary incentive at play.
The reason men get more attractive as they get older is because they will have more resources pooled and more life-experience, gravitas etc. Remember: when it comes to women being attracted to men, traits which aren't physical play a much bigger role than in the attraction of men to women (for men physical traits are of increased importance); this is why game and frame matter so much. Not to say that physical traits aren't important, but women just get a lot more excited by men with an interesting lifestyle, a nice car, a degree and cool hobbies than men do by women with those same things.
Intern either promoted machinist to boyfriend herself so she doesn't look slutty to the outside world (and machinist just plated the intern (no kids or marriage)) and this is the plate going cold or machinist got cucked (which seems more likely if he was actually showing controlling behaviour; that shit is for pussies).
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And yes, its everything you have ever dreamed it would be. I was 29 once and was doing 18 year old puss.
blackedoutfast 6y ago
game recognizes game. i don't think we need to worry too much about the machinist.
remember she's never yours, it's just your turn.
Redpillx94 6y ago
If it was playful why mention it ctfu
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empatheticapathetic 6y ago
He did and she's trying to play it as abuse to feed the blooper hamster.
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I want to be a machinist
sadomasochrist 6y ago
I know a dude exactly like this. CNC, 30s... playing the game. For all I know it is this dude.
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general-heartless 6y ago
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
sadomasochrist 6y ago
I think it's more accurate to consider CNC applied engineering. Engineers don't inspire wetness....
Women appreciate artist types. They're one of the fantasy archetypes.
ozaku7 6y ago
If you're a machinist you are dead inside because all you do all day is logical work. On top of that, if he dislikes his job, you are just in a relationship with a body and a dead mind that has nothing to bring back home but sorrows.
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sadomasochrist 6y ago
To be fair I think you're conflating art with execution. Few people, men included, can appreciate, for instance industrial art.
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MyNomenclature 6y ago
Also a good example of a woman not taking responsibility/ownership over her life (although plenty of men fail to do this as well, it is more common among young/attractive women who aren't forced to take responsibility of much). She was "stuck", like her relationships are some external force of nature she has no control over or her bf was keeping her their via coercion. I'm pretty sure her ex-bf was not keeping her tied up in the basement, or threatening to kill her family if she broke up with him, or blackmailing her with evidence of her father's tax evasion. She stayed in a relationship (voluntarily) for 5 months with a 30 year old guy making $50k, but upon realizing this was a massive waste of time because they fundamentally don't want the same thing she refuses to admit her mistake, instead claiming she was "stuck".
She was correct when she started dating him, had no choice but to keep dating him, and is now also correct when breaking up with him. Yay! I'm not accountable or responsible for any of my decisions!
Jacob_exe 6y ago
can't say I blame her, 30 year old dude seemed to be going no where
but at the end of the day I have a feeling the dude is going to be alright lmao, he's 30 and she's 20? Damn
cashmoney_x 6y ago
Going nowhere? He already arrived! He's 30, no kids, no wife, banging 20 year olds. all his money is his own. He's FREE.
Jacob_exe 6y ago
haha that's a good point actually, that's a lot of money just for one person
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Docbear64 6y ago
It's easy to say that but If his only responsibilities are taking care of himself and not bending over backwards to take care of a wife and kids he doesn't want he's doing great. Any leftover money is for his leisure.
Compared to our young engineering couple though it sounds like this chick already has her boyfriend pegged as her future provider . if she sticks with him by the time he graduates I bet that her marriage / baby clock ramp up quite quickly.
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rp-Ubermensch 6y ago
Congrats, you're the emotional tampon
illusiveab 6y ago
Not every field report has to be some personal [laid/not laid] scenario. TRP is as much about learning and sharing realities as much as it is about enacting your own. Not every dude in TRP is some desperate blue pill convert that needs to try to fuck every chick they know either.
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Harry_Wangs 6y ago
Why are people reading into this situation so much, making assumptions about the 30 year old. Perhaps the 30 year old was a player with magnificent frame, or perhaps he was just a loser who doesn't know what he's doing. Making assumptions based on no information to support your own view is what feminists love to do.
Let's not fall into the same trap.
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Rather than do the whole jerking off to the vile woman I would look at how the old guy fucked up. I don't mean the silly shit she came up with after but the story involves her directly telling/showing him what was going to work. She wanted to feel safe and protected, meaning she wanted that sense of power and competence from a man. What did this guy do? He bitched. He acted threatened. He DEERed it up.
Props to him for bagging the 20 yr old. I just hope he was smart enough to realize how little value she actually merited, but going off the defensive shit I doubt it.
Sonichu 6y ago
She didn't want to date a 30 year old loser who makes 50k a year, has no motivation to better himself, and doesn't want kids? Stop the presses.
Slinger2 6y ago
And I know you’ve already said you’re being hyperbolic and so I’m just echoing that women don’t understand the skills that can go to making 50k a year. I’ve seen machinists, motor mechanics et cetera that keep the world moving and get paid 50k. They do the the 9-5 and have great and fulfilling lives. Never good enough for some.
Kink3 6y ago
Speaking as a machinist, It can be pretty tough to get promoted. Most of the time there's a stigma against moving blue to white, so they outsource to someone that doesn't have the practical experience for a supervisor role. I bet he's at least somewhat motivated to make $50k as most of the unmotivated cap out at $30k or less.
internet_badass_here 6y ago
He doesn't sound like a loser at all. He has a solid, respectable gig, doesn't want to get married, and dates hot young 20 year olds. Dude's got it figured out.
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Yeah, plus 50k ain't that bad especially if you don't want kids.
magnificent18 6y ago
She ain’t bad looking, I’ll say that at the very least.
TruthSeekaaaaa 6y ago
Dunno if he is a loser and has no motivation to get better, the only dealbreaker is the kids issue. Probably he's just a guy who enjoy the present and doesn't look too far away.
Sonichu 6y ago
That's fair I was being hyperbolic for comedic effect. Machinist are badass mother fuckers, no disrespect
Your_Coke_Dealer 6y ago
Designers and architects design shit to look good. Engineers yell at architects and designers for making things that don't work. Machinists yell at engineers for approving shit that still doesn't work.
DatingCoach111 6y ago
Good post. This behavior does not surprise anyone. Although to be honest, if I ever found a better match for me than whatever girl I'm dating at the time, I would probably upgrade too. Not sure hypergamy is limited to the one sex.
EdViews 6y ago
Could be true. Wouldn't be surprised if 30 year old dumped her cause she wanted commitment and now she is an alpha widow
iqbal002 6y ago
Is it bad if a girl talks to me about her bf or her ex bf and who she is going to date now ?
BewareTheOldMan 6y ago
Is it bad if a girl talks to me about her bf or her ex bf and who she is going to date now?
It's undeniably bad if you are looking at LTR or marriage with this type of woman. She has Alpha Widow Syndrome like you wouldn't believe. This will go bad for any man who tries to LTR or marry this woman. No man will ever "measure up" to Mr. Wonderful.
A woman like this is straight "Plate/Next" status and an emotional black hole - nothing more.
iqbal002 6y ago
so how should i respond ? to get out of the situation
BewareTheOldMan 6y ago
A few easy and simple excuses:
"I'm not ready for a relationship at this time/right now is not a good time for a relationship."
"I have major issues that need my time and attention right now." Insert reason _____ (projects, work, and other family members, etc.)
There might be some back and forth, but stick to your decision. Wavering only serves to worsen the situation.
If there is contact after separation. Keep it brief and courteous:
"I'm fine." / I'm doing well" / "I'm busy, can't talk."
You have other things to do that don't include spending time with a woman in which you have no interest. It’s fine to disengage social media, etc. There’s no need to maintain contact.
Short Story - in my Blue Pill Days I was in a woman's house and she pulled out a photo album of her Baby Daddy. For some reason there was a photo of the BD's current wife in the album.
I was not interested in hearing about this guy and wondered if he was so great that I needed to see photos why was he not sitting in her living room?
Single Mother...straight Alpha Widow - and she's flipping through photos as if I care. I was too "Nice Guy" to emphatically state I had no interest in hearing about some other guy who knocked her up and left her with his kid. She was lucky that I might have interest.
Didn't understand it then, but post-Red Pill Awareness it's perfectly clear. The only man any woman should be motivated to speak about is the man she is with – Full Stop. She expects the same from you, hence she has to give you the same in return.
Also - post the same question to AskTRP. People have the same/similar situation all the time and you will receive even more helpful hints.
U-94 6y ago
My mom straight up laughed and told me over X-mas that she is dating her BF because he has no kids and she'd get the inheritance.
t3nchi 6y ago
If they got married? Maybe her bf has nieces and nephews he loves.
Justmagick 6y ago
Of course, maybe the machinist dumped her. She would never admit to that.
TheVagWhisperer 6y ago
Highly possible. Most women lie about the end of their relationships.
ItsYough123 6y ago
I can guarantee you that's not even the real reason. She just wasn't getting the feels from him and others guys were there to provide it. All them things he said and done are just excuses she can bring up when it's over. Wonder how long she was dating that older guy? If it was a year or two then I wouldn't think very highly of her. If she has to go for a someone that much older at that age then she obviously has issues (not saying there is anything wrong with the age gap but at that age a teenager should not be in a serious relationship with a 30 year old).
She comes across as a bit naive. Aged 20 and she'll all mapped out how her life is going to go lmao. She placing a lot of trust in this new guys words and potential. I'm not saying it won't work out for her but I'd be skeptical. I don't think she realises the real world doesn't work out like that. Sure it's great to say all your needs and wants in the first place and have them aligned but this new guy is a loooong way off becoming the superior engineer that he thinks he is. But she'll learn. I'm sure that 30 year old had fun with her lol.
BewareTheOldMan 6y ago
I don't think she realizes the real world doesn't work out like that.
What’s the phrase from now-Jedi Master Luke Skywalker (in the The Last Jedi movie)? "This is not going to go the way you think!"
She's a long way off from locking down this future engineer with marriage and commitment. Good on her for getting in early before she's completely used up, stalled out, and passed around like a Kardashian.
Not to insult engineers, but these guys generally focus on studies and have high intellect, but are not the most street-wise group when it comes to women. The new guy might think he’s getting a catch, but who knows how many guys have run through this chick? For all we know he might be playing the game for now and has zero intention on marriage…or might consider marriage much later down the road.
I foresee two engineers in a lot of debt and Mr. Wonderful might look at his future in that perspective, hence she’s taking a huge chance with this guy. A smart man would look at paying off almost $200,000+ in student loans as a financial nightmare and leave her to her own devices.
I’m always confused as to these women who want three kids, but incur major debt studying for expensive degrees in a field they will likely not be working. Working a full-time job, taking care of three kids, and keeping a husband happy is not an easy road. Go for the marriage and kids first, and then go back to school for the degree. That’s seems more workable. University and the job market will always be there, but the opportunity for motherhood might pass a woman by.
An example over at the Relationships Subreddit confirms this problem. There's a 40 year old, never-married woman literally demanding a 42 year old man with teenage kids marry her and produce a kid right now. She wants this guy to commit to two more decades of child-rearing when she had years earlier to get it in. Of course the guy is balking on this proposal…that and he would have to reverse his vasectomy. Also – dude just got out of an 18-year marriage. Everyone else says the dude is selfish and the woman is running out of time. She is not running out of time…her baby-making time expired years ago. I was the only one who agreed with his sentiment. In this scenario, a 40 year old woman would have been better off showing up as a Single Mother.
Anyway - the assumption is that the future chump…husband will pay the debt, assuming mom and dad is not covering down. It almost seems as if women plan that if marriage doesn’t work out, she gets child support and alimony from an engineer versus a guy making $50K a year.
OP is right to some extent in that her behavior confirms AWALT.
Stabiel 6y ago
Is 50.000 a year that bad in the states? How much gets taken in taxes?
magnificent18 6y ago
So taxes are based off of how much you make. In America if you make between 37,951 to 91,900 then 25% of your paycheck will be taken away by the federal government. On top of that the state you live in also takes a certain percentage off your salary (for him it would be another 6.27%). And on top of that there is also social security (6.2%) and Medicare (1.45%). Assuming he is also putting into his 401K, there’s another certain percentage taken off.
It’s not really the taxes, it’s the fact he is earning low to support her and her future family. She will be making more than him, starting salary of an engineer 63K.
In America from the salary he is making he might be living in an apartment or townhouse and rent costs anywhere from $500 to $1,500 per month. If he is making 50,000 then he is really only making slightly more than 30,000 a year after taxes. Divide that by 12 and your monthly check is around $2500. Now you have to pay for rent, insurance, food, gas, etc. Essentially you have some money left over.
I’m not sure what his living condition is and how much he pays rent but this is what it is.
Sir_Distic 6y ago
As others have stated it depends on where you live. If you live in Oklahoma then it's good money. If you live in San Francisco you live in a tent.
TheseNthose 6y ago
Depends on where you live really.
Ivabighairy1 6y ago
Can’t help but think that she had no clue that she was an easily replaceable plate to the machinist.
thebadmanpuntdbaxter 6y ago
Sounds like self preservation
Zech4riah 6y ago
I think we have the correct answer here and because of it - the TRP example OP is trying to show us, isn't quite there.
ctrl_alt_el1te 6y ago
Yup, can't be made at a woman for being a woman though. That's like being mad at a fish for swimming.
Best you can do is arm yourself with the knowledge and and act accordingly.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
Can I at least get pissed at the god damn shark for biting off my arm?
empatheticapathetic 6y ago
It's painfully obvious all sharks are like that.
BewareTheOldMan 6y ago
..no real surprises on this scenario.
The only real surprise is the fact she was dating in her words: a 30 year old blue collar machinist making 50K and he will never be promoted to make more...and he doesn’t want any kids or even get married!
She had no business being in a relationship with him in the first place...unless he was just a placeholder until Mr. Wonderful comes along. If that's the case, it does "check out" that hypergamy floats.
justshootinblanks 6y ago
He was good enough whilst she was studying. Now that she is an intern and will soon be working she feels she has climbed the smv ladder so she is looking for a mate who is higher up as well. Ladder theory.
kregsslauggteepla 6y ago
And that’s all there really is to this folks
TheVagWhisperer 6y ago
Nah. She just realized she was a 20 year old slam piece for a guy who doesn't give a damn about building anything with her. That's all there ACTUALLY is to it
TruthSeekaaaaa 6y ago
Relationships aren't logic related, many things are involved. It could be started w/ phisical attraction and then continue without much momentum until the girl realizes their goals are different
BewareTheOldMan 6y ago
...until the girl realizes [her relationship] goals are different
Therein lies the problem. Women should establish and define their relationship goals right from the beginning, and very early in life. It’s as if parents don’t advise women the constant supply of men who want them in their 20’s will steadily dwindle in a woman’s late 20’s/early 30’s. This gets worse with age, hence the constant refrain of "Where Are All the Good Men?"
Be a slut or be a wife. Choose early and stick with your choice. Men are expected to do this, so why is this same expectation not placed on women?
It’s why the duplicitous sexual strategy of Alpha Sex/Beta Provider is insulting to many men, with many women lying about their lifetime number of sexual partners. Women know it’s wrong, but still want freedom to bed as many guys as they want and save the Nice Guy as the Backup Plan.
It’s why they’re so angry, upset, and frustrated when the self-aware Beta Chump says "No Thanks."
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
You want women to plan ahead logically and maintain steady goals over time?
Good luck.
ItsYough123 6y ago
How long were they dating? If it was 2 years then she would have been 18 when it started. 18 and in a relationship with a 28 year old. Just lol. I'd say her social standing wasn't all that great and he was just looking a younger girl to pump. If she's going for guys that much older at that age then she probably isn't as wise as she thinks.
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ItsYough123 6y ago
Way to make some great judgements about me. I said if she was 18 and getting in a relationship with a 28 yer old then she isn't prime material. She very may well be good looking but no normal girl gets in a relationship at that age with a near 30 year old. The odd fuck here and there? Certainly, nothing wrong with that. Now if she was 21 or so I'm more lenient on these things. I don't see anything wrong with a 10 year gap at that age but when she's 18, lmao.
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ItsYough123 6y ago
Where did I say an older man is of lower value? Do you even bloody read what I wrote? Jesus, learn to read and stop presuming.
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ItsYough123 6y ago
I said if she was 18. I also said if she was in her 20s there would be no problem and that she could date 10 years plus older but you chose to ignore that several times. But that's fine, if you think an 18 year old is a catch then so be it.
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ItsYough123 6y ago
Not hating the man. The type of 18 year old girl who goes after a man near 30? Well they're usually not relationship material, let's just say that.
BewareTheOldMan 6y ago
Many women like to feign innocence, fake a virtuous nature, or claim lack of knowledge about a man's full intentions – especially when the guy presented himself as a straight douchebag right from the beginning.
I suspect most women are more self-aware than they let on to others. It happens at different times for most women, but there comes a point when women are COMPLETELY AWARE of their sexual strategy. At some point a woman will self-actualize her own sexuality and use it to her advantage.
For this chick, sexual awareness is apparent around age 20-ish as her hypergamous behavior is a strong indicator. The only good thing is she's optimizing her SMV much earlier versus waiting for Stage 4/Stage 5 SMV Decline.
Women know exactly what they're doing.
cashmoney_x 6y ago
My nine year old daughter knows exactly what the fuck she is doing. Has for 2 years now.
They know.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
I would bet my house that this girl's n count at 18 was A LOT bigger than her tradesman BF at 30. Innocent my a$$.
BewareTheOldMan 6y ago
I bet...this girl's n count at 18 was A LOT bigger than her...BF at 30.
I was thinking the same thing. This "20 year old" woman seems pretty sexually savvy and manipulative for her age-range. It's generally a time when women try to play up their innocence. But how many of today's young women are wholesome and innocent?
Although consistent with hypergamous behavior, her actions seem "suspicious." After all – she provided trickle-truth information to the OP until she finally came her bottom-line reason for the branch swing.
Rollo_Mayhem3 6y ago
so when you say TRP held up, it sounds like what you are saying is that in this case the concept of hypergamy was illustrated to you...right?
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Snowiceolated 6y ago
She's twenty years old. All she cares about how wet the guy makes her, and all other reasoning is retroactive.
All of this is just hamstering for "Right now this other dude is hotter" If she was dumping the college student for the 30 year old, the logic can easily be flipped around: "Oh this guy is older so more mature, and actually has a job in the real world. Who knows if this nerdy engineering guy will ever be able to step up and rise the ranks at a real job you know?"
TL;DR Watch what they do, not what they say
strikethrough123 6y ago
I'm guessing we might see a field report soon of how a 30 year old machinist dumped his cheating GF.
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No matter how hot she is, there’s a dude tired of fucking her.
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bumbuff 6y ago
Little does she know that unless she's in software engineering, other engineering industries have out-bid themselves in to the ground. Don't be expecting 6 figures until you're senior level and in your late 40's. Even early 50's.
The machinist, on the other hand, will eventually make 80k and will always make 80k so long as he continues to improve. He also has a high chance of starting his own business to make more.
And if the machinist is good, he'll be able to weather any economic recessions. The senior level engineer, not as likely.
In fact, I've known more unemployed engineers than I have trades people. At least those that are always looking for work.
Harry_Wangs 6y ago
Idk what you're talking about. Average salary data doesn't lie. Look at all the top earning schools/degrees, they are typically engineering or business.
Besides, having an engineering degree doesn't mean you need to be an engineer. My job pulls from a variety of degrees, but engineering degrees are quite common. We aren't engineers, but the general thinking ability of an engineer is respected. My boss is pulling in 250-350k in his early 30s with an engineering degree, I'm pulling in just under 100k out of college (not engineering degree, but a lot of my colleagues do). At the higher level the senior people in their 40s-50s typically pull in 1-2M. Granted, my job isn't related to engineering at all, but my company hires plenty of engineering degrees.
magnificent18 6y ago
I find it funny because as an engineer, our job is to use logic and reason to fix problems or come up with solutions that in return help the company.
But when it comes to understanding and figuring out women, even the engineers throw their logic out the window and are clueless or make poor decisions.
I’d say even here on TRP is on their journey to getting their unaccredited degree in female nature which vastly helps you think more clearly and pick which decisions.
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magnificent18 6y ago
What really hit the nail for me is to see what hypergamy looks like right in your face.
I think with the relearning process of true female nature and sexual strategy your brain tries to cope really hard a lot from taking all this information that feels and comes off as negative. The way it does that is by separating yourself from reality (the people around you and their stories) it makes you think “although I just read some guy’s story, I’ll still think that it doesn’t apply to me since I can’t personally feel or relate to what is being said. The mentality I have is “if it doesn’t happen to me then it’s not my problem or it’s not completely real”
Sometimes my brain can go to the extent of thinking everything here is fake.... I know, stupid.
It’s not easy to learn this material and internalize it in one day. However it does get better and better when I come here frequently and reread the sidebar and posts I’ve saved.
However learning hypergamy of the many other things, it helped me explain: why my cousin got laid more than most of any us (his higher smv) Why certain dudes I know have girlfriends (popularity, income) Why rappers always rap about being able to get any chick
But again ive never actually experienced any of these things in my life so I don’t know.
On top of that I could only assume it was hypergamy since females don’t really say what they are doing. I think they themselves sometimes don’t know what they are doing because their emotions cloud their logic.
But when you are talking to a girl and she tells you face on and it lines up to what you’ve read here, then there is no way for your brain to cope and think otherwise.
You accept hypergamy and the fact that men are disposable and that men are just creatures with heightened amounts of testosterone ready to “fall in love” at glance (which why we are considered the romantics of this world.)
You finally let go of the idea that the safe and unconditional feeling of love you received from your mother was what you’d receive from your gf/wife and realize once your parents are gone from this world that no one will really love you like they did. The only other alternative is to get a pet or children.
Unconditional love only flows in this direction:
Men > Women > Child/Pet
Lastly you realize wtf kind of world was I born into. There is no such thing as hell, this is hell. It’s sad we can realize our wiring but not do anything to change it.
Remember I’m 24 with only a few hookups, so it’s hard to relate and feel what you guys on here feel. I do see what I’ve learned through other people but sometimes I’m a bit skeptical since it doesn’t personally happen to me.
BewareTheOldMan 6y ago
I do see what I’ve learned through other people but sometimes I’m a bit skeptical since it doesn’t personally happen to me.
At 24 years of age with no personal experiences in negative female behavior you're doing pretty well. I see TRP as a very useful tool for guys like you. It’s not just about Spinning Plates into old age, but using the information to avoid getting burned in relationships.
Use what you learn to deal with woman and establish relationships on YOUR terms and conditions. You might one day want marriage and kids. Real-life and applicable lessons you learn in this forum will save you much frustration and hundreds of thousands in attorney fees, alimony, and child support – assuming you ever marry.
These guys at TRP are not idiot neckbeards, they’re actually very smart. I recommend women pay attention to their philosophy/ideology and simply adjust their personal behavior – but most women lack the foresight and inclination to adapt their strategy, or are incapable of not operating external to their own base instincts and desires.
Many women complain about TRP Men by dismissing them as misogynists, angry, or hateful against women, but I don’t see this as the case. The basic countermeasure to TRP techniques and theory is DON’T be the type of women they complain about. It’s that simple. Be a much better woman right from the beginning and maximize the prime years to secure a great life-mate.
Red Pill (Men) evolved into a philosophy/ideology as a direct countermeasure to the fact that women are feely offering sex to a few men versus looking for potential life-mates/husbands in their prime years. Prime years are defined as when a woman is young, very good-looking/most beautiful, most fertile, and has the best chance of finding the very best man their looks/Sexual Market Value (SMV) can attract. Of course she has to continually improve her Relationship Market Value (RMV) as well, but it’s a woman’s attractiveness that gets a man’s initial interest.
TRP observed a pattern of behavior in which women spend their best years with Bad Boys/Pretty Boys, and then search for a good husband/father archetype much later to years after their prime.
The focus is self-improvement toward becoming a Top 20% Man in order to take advantage of the fact women are feely offering sex to a few men.
There is no desire or incentive to change women or female behavior, only respond/react to the Sexual Market Place (SMP) and its current conditions. For women who are offering uncommitted and free sex to these few (Top 20%) men, TRP simply adapted their behavior in response. Many women see TRP as very negative, but it’s women who are offering sex – RP Men simply accept (or reject) the offer.
I suspect most TRP followers most will never achieve Top 20% status, but will self-improve to the extent of interacting with women to some level of fulfillment or obtaining a better class of women.
What I mostly see from women are complaints and misunderstanding about men who use RP Techniques to extract sexual benefits based on current female nature and behavior. It’s mostly a running list of insults without any attempt to understand TRP Strategy.
It’s not just TRP-aware men having these conversations. Other/regular men are having these discussions highlighting problems/relationship dynamics between men and women virtually everywhere…male-dominated spaces, social media, conferences, special events, social clubs, gatherings, and basic interpersonal dialogue among other men.
I grew up as a Ward of the State/foster kid and lacked strong male leadership, positive mentoring, and practical life-guidance. That was a usable excuse the first few adult years, but once you're truly on your own the lessons come the hard way. With forums like TRP and other male discussion threads I would have never selected my ex-wife as a life partner…much less produced 3 x children with her.
I'm happy to pass the knowledge and know other young men can use the information to make better life-decisions.
Keep learning and use the information to your advantage. I only wish other men would have shared this information with me much earlier in life.
magnificent18 6y ago
Thanks man, I really appreciate your post. You summed up what TRP is really all about. I saved your response!
Personally I’m the kind of person to ask questions and try to figure out how things works.
If you want to learn how to lift weights and get big all, learn a new software, new skill, etc you can always google it.
It’s funny to me how everyone knows what males are attracted to but when it comes to understanding female attraction no one outside of TRP really knows, questions it, or can give you a straight answer. Can you believe that!?
I knew somewhere out there someone or something had the answers.
That’s how I found TRP and also because logically looking at the facts that the divorce rate is 50 fucking percent (holy shit) and that the man most likely will get screwed over in alimony/child support, so I wanted to better prepare myself and understand how women tick and along the way I figured out how I tick as a male.
I’d say after learning of TRP my love for women became different. I stopped thinking my wiring (aka my dick) was “Love” when in reality it was temporary lust, but that’s okay because we men always feel that high level attraction (even scientist have confirmed that a females face and physical attraction affects our brain like cocaine) because of the high testosterone flowing through our bodies.
Men are 9x more sexual than females because we have approximately 9x more testosterone.
The government is really making money off of the dumb decisions perpetuated by testosterone.
Lastly TRP has gave me a new, better, more accurate lenses to understand how this world works, the sexual dynamics between sexes, and even normal human interaction on a sub conscious / conscious level. Makes you a good businessman I’d say, and gives YOU the power to create your own terms once you know things work, like you’ve said.
“Knowledge is power”
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magnificent18 6y ago
Exactly! My mindset is very positive, creative , and trying to have fun, so when you learn of true female nature it can be harsh a bit.
The phrase goes: “you are what you think” if you know female energy/nature is biologically negative then it’s hard for you to learn since that in itself is disgusting and negative. It’s fucked up lol. Behind their smiles, laughs, and attractive face and figure inside is this disgusting demon inside called biology.
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magnificent18 6y ago
Exactly! I agree with you! Even laws of science in textbooks aren’t even 100% correct. They say speed is equal to distance / time but in reality it isn’t due to relativity and who knows what other forces are out there.
Coming from an engineer background, one thing I know is that nothing is completely exact.
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kellykebab 6y ago
This sounds made up, it's poorly written, and offers no insights.
Where has the quality gone?
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