Early this morning some inner voice compelled me to visit the suicide watch subreddit, just to browse and see if the thread is doing well/healthy. I came across a post there that was extremely concerning to me. Essentially, this now 20yo man once grabbed a girl's boob when he was 16, she pushed him away and he went for it again. Now 4 years later, even though she seems to have forgiven and forgotten as he puts it, this incident is enough to make him feel suicidal.
I've considered myself a feminist but this just makes me such an awful man. other than this I consider myself a good person, but this is bringing me down and crushing me so much and I feel like I don't deserve happiness because of it. I don't feel like I deserve to be alive.
The way he self describes as a feminist and the way he ends the post are painful to read. A typical blue pill example, right? But after thinking about it I remembered when I got out of my first ltr and a Teacher of mine recommended I read Iron John: A Book About Men by Robert Bly. I had grown up without any good/consistent father figures and the book turned out to be a great suggestion for me. Bly talked about how more and more in recent years young men have been lacking guidance from older men and subsequently only learn about what it means to be a man from either shitty father figures or women. The problem with this is that more and more women are clinging to the idea that men are evil monsters. Progressives/feminists more often venerate women for every choice and decision they make, from working full time to leeching off a man, from staying monogamous to "exploring their options" (as put by a female coworker and mother of a 13yo son, whom I'm sure will be one more of many to lack proper guidance). Every choice a woman makes is regarded as good and morally acceptable, almost no matter what, simply because she made that choice. Meanwhile men are being berated for every choice. Working a typical full time job is just being a cog, but going for something unconventional and potentially being unemployed to do so is irresponsible, being monogamous is lame or wishful thinking, but sleeping around is degrading to women and shying from commitment. Men have had all the freedom they could want from the get go, so now that freedom is viewed as inherently wrong, instead of being celebrated. Unfortunately this means that more and more young men are acting up in ways that end with them either dead or in jail, while those who try to follow what they've been taught by women simply end up hating themselves (because all men should be hated simply for being men) like the young man from this suicide watch post. He thinks that this individual, isolated and innocuous incident makes him an "awful man." And any advice he gets from that thread is going to be gentle and placating. But he needs to be completely retaught, as do many other young men like him.
So many posts lately have been examples of women ruining mens' lives, of basic sexual or workout advice, or more recently posts complaining about the lack of quality/value in said posts. But this young man is on the verge of suicide because of an event that didn't even result in a lawsuit or any other major consequences. Four years have passed and all seems well but he still is considering suicide. Being that suicide is (and has been pointed out here as being) such a huge issue amongst young men, a post like his should serve as a wake up call. If TRP intends to address real mens' issues, the advice and guidance it provides should go deeper than it has recently. This young man doesn't just need to learn about sexual game (though it will help him understand what happened in that specific situation and will help in others like it). He doesn't just need basic workout advice (although I'm sure exercise will help him). His current issues are much more rooted. He needs to be rewired with a deeper understanding of what it means to be a man, what it means to grow up and apart from your parents/mother, what it means to have your own personal strength, a sense of self worth. And with the way posts here have been recently, if he came across this subreddit he would likely turn away, thinking we couldn't possibly be serious or be of any help to him.
I've lurked here for a while and this is my first post, and I am by no means completely enlightened, but I personally feel as though TRP should be something better than what it has been lately, something that can help young men like this.
P.S. I'll be leading him here from his post. So even if you all disagree and I get downvoted to hell, at least I'll have lead another young man to TRP in hopes of him getting some help.
chumeistro 6y ago
I am going through this right now. I have a mother who constantly berates me and the family members and basically if we don't follow her way, we are evil and shit people. My dad isn't very helpful. He just gives in to her and I cannot stand that (he wasn't around when I was 7 years old and only meet once or twice every week, he travels to the city to work and leaves me with mum and sister.)
Right now, I'm working things out with a therapist and I understand that what my dad is doing is extremely wrong that it shook me to the core every time my dad tries to coax my mum even when she is being a total bitch.
I'm not very confident myself but I'm trying. I have lots of self-doubts and low social status but I try to improve myself every day. I feel like I have the potential to break free from where I am and I am waiting patiently for my turn. I'm moving out from home soon.
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You know what, good.
In times gone past society had an uplifting effect, generally speaking what you did right mattered. Now it's the opposite, what you do wrong matters and is focused on.
It's just lowering the competition.
Palermo15 6y ago
Hey... 16 y/o here. While my parents did give me guidance... my self worth has been down the toilet ever since I was 13. That's why I'm here. I've just today convinced myself to take a look here, this grabbed my attention. You're right. Seems as if we can't have a just, equal right, one sex must always stomp down and belittle the other...
PS, any help around TRP I uh need some guidance on how to handle my dating life atm...
AllahHatesFags 6y ago
There is nothing more pathetic than a male feminist. If he can't handle grabbing a woman's breast and getting shot down he should just go ahead and kill himself because life gets a lot harder than that.
0signal0 6y ago
I blame single mothers for that. Men need a strong father figure to lead them through life.
SaveTheRhinos 6y ago
What about the men that walked out?
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Alathon 6y ago
What about them? They're a small minority compared to the females who either had a marriage and chose divorce (and whose children were given over to them by the State and made strangers to their fathers), and the females who chose to bear children without even having a man committed to them (often with no intention of permitting any man to stay in their life until they get the famous billionaire athlete they know they deserve).
salty_syrup 6y ago
I read this somewhere, but it goes a little like this. "Don't try to understand women. Women understand women, and they hate each other."
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I love TRP and believe in it so.
Unfortunately, I am deeply suicidal with no sense of purpose. I try to listen to the advice on here that I can, but still to no avail. I really don't know what to do. I have no sense of self worth and no confidence in myself. I truly believe I am a horrible, ugly, revolting human being and no matter how many times I go to the gym, eat good foods, there is nothing that can change that. This is how I am and this is how I will be until I perish.
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There are only two viable solutions I can think of.
[deleted] 6y ago
You have purpose, you're not horrible ugly or revolting.
You discovered TRP, you're miles ahead of majority of men out there.
You can fix this, what are you currently doing in the gym? Bulking or cutting?
I can guarantee you that you could get MANY women within just a few weeks if you really wanted it.
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I guess you'd say I am bulking. I just eat slightly over my maintenance and have been doing so for 2 years approx. I started off sub 8-10%bf (skinny bitch) and am now at around 15% with, aim to cut before summer.. Now It's not just the women I care about either, it's everything. Friends (or lack thereof), social life, social interaction, girls, confidence etc.
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sims5l 6y ago
I came from a similar place when I found TRP only 6 months ago. Look up articles about dopamine and meditation in this subreddit - these two factors, along with hitting the gym and hitting it HARD 4-5 times a week, made more significant change than 5 years worth of CBT, counselling, medication and other such shit (good diet is also very important.) With determination and discipline you will begin to naturally feel better, but you must commit. It will be hard and you will suffer along the way, but trust me when I say it is worth it (and better than the alternative.)
You have two choices; push on and fight or do nothing and watch yourself wither away. Somewhere inside you is the strength to prevail you just have to keep pushing. You can do it!
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Thanks for your reply. I've been here lurking for a long time. Been hitting the gym 4-5 times a week too for around 2 years. But I don't know what else I have to do..
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Yes, that's pretty much all I do (lift). I eat pretty healthily, no added sugars, lots of water, only consume alcohol about once every 2/3 months. My sleep routine is also becoming very disciplined because of my university timetable, I just really, really struggle with the social things.
Euphoricentia 6y ago
I agree, but do not worry about weak, the planet will become overpopulated soon enough.
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Webbofconfusion 6y ago
Is it BP to seek advice from others?
grumpy_0ld_man 6y ago
I would say never seek advice from women.
max_peenor 6y ago
What do you think?
Maleden 6y ago
Absolutely not. Get a mentor or two if you're a young guy. It's infinitely faster to learn from mistakes of others.
That's why this subreddit exists at all. There exists a demand for counsel that isn't being fulfilled.
Ask your dad, granddad, old BAMFs in a church, they are a wealth of knowledge AND it will make them immensely happy to oblige you if they aren't a loser.
_terminal_ 6y ago
What if you’re alone? I’m not scared of being alone, I just have a few good friends and no mentors. All I have are books mainly. I have a friend of mine (we’re both juniors) has taken the pill and he (looking on the outside) is doing great. He has hobbies, passion, mystery, and is with a girl who is a 10. I’m 16 and am new to TRP. I’ve always thought about feminism, justice, and equality but never really thought about what they meant or entailed. I’m lost. Where do I go, what do I learn? Who do I learn from. I’m an 7 on the looks and am 6 foot but my anxiety is shot and I don’t find meaning in anything. I look at him and he has it figured out, not all of it, but he’s moving forward. I wanna move forward.
Maleden 6y ago
Like anything in life, you need to do the seeking.
Again, I know TRP isn't crazy on religion, but find an old respected dude in a church. Find a titan of industry in your prospective field. Find anybody who's screwed up enough times to find success.
Discover your wound, and kill your demons so to speak, and then much of the anxiety goes away
SAPPHIREAURA 6y ago
I'm 29 and lost. scared to tackle the world alone in this fast paced dangerous world, sober. Father and both grand fathers are deceased but I can take what I did learn I suppose. Figure a gym membership and my second amendment are a start. What's a BAMF?
lawlyer1216 6y ago
Bad Ass Mother Fucker.
And the answer is you, if you want it bad enough.
Omnibrad 6y ago
I'm 33 now. At 27 I was a loser. Honestly life didn't begin for me until a few years ago. But now I am very happy.
imlostittink 6y ago
I’m 29 and I’m sober a year. I look better now at 29 than I did at 26. The sober part is really weird at first. You have to learn to interact with people again. Like a normal person without the drugs or booze. You can still have friends that drink and even go to clubs and shit. I wouldn’t unless you feel ready for that. Remember being sober is about not being afraid to be who you are.
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Gallobrax 6y ago
I hate to be this person but some people cannot and will never be able to get it. I mean look at it this way: what brought you to this community? For me it wasn't just a bad experience (of groping) but the systemic breakdown of my entire life. I literally lost everything - all of it to the detriment of myself and for the explicit purpose of keeping another's frame together (after I had long abandoned my own). Before this point you could not have opened the door for me as intelligent as I may be. I was lost, and the only thing that has helped me was the only thing that got me through the last decade: myself. I had to rediscover this and certainly friends are helpful but in this situation TRP doesn't give you a reason to live: you do. Our ways and perspectives are not one size fits all and before someone buys into this ideology they must first buy into their own.
Further, it is worth noting that while I rarely if ever talk about this in my contributions it is relevant to remember we all originate from somewhere. I will not argue that it is not demoralizing to continuously cite examples such as the OP has but there is simply nothing that can be done until one has truly had enough. Sometimes this will of course result in the ultimate sacrifice but in other instances what is sacrificed is your former self. Only then is one truly ready. We can guide, we can source literature and we can even write better theories as time goes on. What we cannot do is unplug; this has to be done on ones own.
After all, this dialogue only reinforces how easy it is to slip back into darkness. If I may: "All it takes is one bad day to turn the sanest man alive to lunacy".
This is why TRP is a solitary journey; lead by example and action lest you be consumed by the dreams and desires that are not your own.
SAPPHIREAURA 6y ago
Indeed we need to look out for each other in these perilous times.
rporion 6y ago
No, I do not grant that this was more than a mistake.
He tried to fondle a girl´s tits and she did not like it, he persisted...a little.
She is totally fine, nobody was harmed, adolescents are trying to figure things out, mistakes will be made.
When did it become a life changing event that some girl´s boobs were touched and she said no?
What kind of insanity is this?
Lazysaurus 6y ago
This "kind of insanity" is the war on men and the feminization of society.
beginner_ 6y ago
So true. As a male you should actually question yourself if this did not happen to you. It means you are too timid and don't escalate fast or far enough.
middaylantern 6y ago
I think the guy's guilt is that he feels he may have mentally scarred the girl for life. His compassionate heart should be encouraged rather than insulted. He just needs to talk to the girl and reaffirm that he feels terrible about what happened and that he won't treat another woman that way. But I agree, he shouldn't contemplate suicide over this...
rporion 6y ago
He is not compassionate, he is a pussy.
Compassion comes from a position of strength, not from weakness.
Also, it seems like he was pestering her already to forgive him and she was like "yeah, whateva..." and he is still not over it.
0xdada 6y ago
TRP has been excellent, but sheer growth makes the stand out pieces more rare, albeit better than a larger pool.
It is not a system, it's a collection of ideas that form some outlines of a very high level map.
As we start to succeed, we encounter fewer guys who need or want help. Luck is just when preparation meets opportunity, so we can do our best to be prepared to help with that change if the opportunity arrives.
There is a damned if you do issue around suicide that aggravates the cycle. Men who talk about suicide generally don't do it, but if you open your mouth about it to anyone with authority, you are likely to get reported and put on a list where you will be treated as a crazy victim, which reinforces the shame you wanted to extinguish in the first place.
Yes, we need better posts here. Maybe you should write some.
The example you gave of the kid above who is worried his life is over is testing how much flagellation he can take and looking for solutions. In his mind, he's willing to die to be better, and imagines he would prefer death to the shame he lives with, or the shame he imagines and lives in fear of. I know that kid and his variations well. He does fine.
beginner_ 6y ago
So true. While I was raised in the classical nuclear family and no divorce or other obviously traumatic things happened, this is exactly true. I had 0 guide from any older male. My father routine was to work late, eat diner, work more at home. OK, we were well-off and he was doing is provider job that was expected of him but else? Not much.
middaylantern 6y ago
I picked The Red Pill because of The Matrix film. I would much prefer the painful reality than the cushy illusion. But as a person who has always been more interested in reality manifested through experience I can't sympathize with The Blue Pill mentality. I think men like the one you describe are unfortunately misguided by media and SJW culture.
The issue is that the conservative movement also turns away potential Red Pill candidates because a lot of the figureheads have difficult opinions to get behind. I recommend people like Ben Shapiro, Thomas Sowell, and Larry Elder. Their opinions have truly shaped a new and balanced understanding of reality for me, cutting away the b.s. that pervades culture these days.
Betterthanuatlife 6y ago
Started browsing this subreddit when I was 16 but when I was 18 I stopped coming here because I saw a drastic shift in posts. From workout/diet advice, game advice, self improvement advice and all around advice to make you a better man (Nofap, meditation, 48 laws of power, etc) to becoming a Hotspot for incels to vent out their frustrations and hatred of women. I didn't come here for a negativistic omega hugbox comparable to r9k. I came here because I was a skinny teen low in confidence who wanted to fuck more and be a better version of myself
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I started browsing this subreddit at the age of 15, within two weeks of finding this place I had a girlfriend and was getting some. 15 years of being told "Be yourself! Be nice! Be a gentlemen!" got me nothing, TRP got me loads within just two weeks.
This place was the golden fucking ticket for advice and like you said, it was about bettering yourself, I started lifting, my game and confidence increased drastically, I got a full-time job and started killing it in my career, self-improvement is now my passion.
However around 2015/2016 TRP started to just get flooded with Incel posts and posts that so obviously didn't happen.
I still come here because occasionally there are some absolute golden nuggets of information that need to be read.
buddhadarko 6y ago
Sometimes, even the acknowledgement that the way society has taught men to think and view themselves is not reality and that there is a much better, healthier, and TRUE way of life for men is enough to throw someone into some kind of depression. So, I will agree with another post on here that said that this particular young man may not be ready for TRP. With that said, I definitely think that while he may not be ready for TRP, there is a way to bring him into it gradually, so as not to make his head spin for months and months. Some of us can take TRP and, even though we get angry and think of allllll of the incidents in our lives that make perfect sense after having learned about TRP, we make a transition with little to no hiccups.
For someone who is contemplating suicide, he may need to deal with those issues separately and then incorporate them as he is able to put things into perspective and then progress in a healthy way.
137thNemesis 6y ago
Paragraphs brother, please
yallapapi 6y ago
Young men are increasingly having trouble with paragraph indentation and in serious need of guidance
max_peenor 6y ago
Stop wasting your time. Neo is the only person that took the pill because he was handed it. The rest of us have to claw up the mountain to get to it.
The modern young male fear of failure is absolutely disgusting. It has created a sea of risk adverse couch lumps. Every generation has been known for fucking something up. This will be the first generation that will be known for not fucking anything up and as such will be the most destructive in modern memory.
Nothing can be done without taking a chance.
7thAnvil 6y ago
Unfortunately, any guy suicidal over such an incident is so not ready for The Red Pill. I've tried to introduce TRP to dozens of guys with mixed success. One thing I've learned is they have to be sensing/feeling that something isn't right with TBP Matrix before there is any chance you can reach them. They have to already be figuring out much of TRP truisms on their own so you can just kind of fill in the missing pieces. They have to be searching for answers to the contradictions and confusion of BP intersexual dynamics.
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TheSp4rk 6y ago
They have to be sensing that something is off.
I always suggest "Atlas Shrugged" as a good intro to realizing that the world has issues (as much about government and capitalism as about individualism and utopia)
Bear-With-Bit 6y ago
Exactly. It's counter intuitive but you have to be already redpilled to be redpill. If you can't own your shit, take care of your body, keep yourself as the highest priority, see then you can't handle this.
asotranq 6y ago
Yeah I didn't discover this stuff until I was already somewhat on the road of self improvement, if I discovered it when I was at my lowest point I probably wouldn't have been able to handle the truths of it and I would've probably just dove deeper into the blue pill mindset
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He probably suffers from depression and/or anxiety which causes him to blow events like this out of proportion
Lazysaurus 6y ago
Yes, and society's treatment of men is clearly making that worse, and probably had a part in making him that way to begin with. I wouldn't be so quick to write it off as this guy's personal problem, especially given statistics on rising depression and suicide in men.
TychoVelius 6y ago
If the girl in question posted the #metoo hashtag, it would probably eat at him. He'd equate himself with monsters.
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JokerChaos77 6y ago
Being redpilled is not a choice. It just happens to you. And is it really a last straw? Because all of us had the means to see everything as it is plenty of times before actually opening your eyes. In my case personally it was the most insignificant thing compared with all the other times and then, I saw the light in the most absurd turn of events. And being redpilled is actually pretty fucking nasty. I don't know, I find myself really missing my good old childish and idealist self. Being pissed off and "negative" all the time is not something anyone wants. A lot of people just don't have the mind to handle the truth.
vengefully_yours 6y ago
Holy shit you've missed the point. It's ok man, takes exp to get it. You look back fondly on the bullshit you were told because you were young and impressionable. The reality of it is that shit was an attempt to placate and subdue you, keeping you ignorant, weak, and under control. You found out that nobody gives a fuck about you, but you're supposed to care about them sacrificing yourself for them.
Fuck. That. Shit.
You're so close to freeing your mind, but you don't want to believe in the wasteland. Life is hard, nobody is holding your hand, but what you fail to realize is that hand was holding you back. The only thing holding you back now is you, your own mind. You don't make the jump because you think you can't make it, even when you see it first hand.
It's not nasty, it's handing you control of yourself, your choices, your path. I'll take a hard line over an easy one every time, because the hard shit makes you stronger.
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I was "Converted" by PurplePillDebate, and the ever-increasing tidal wave ofanti-male shit spewed on the internet. PPD is good because it offers nuance and a chance to discuss it, under at least the appearance of a truce between the sides.
I used to laugh at this sub, and while i still disagree with a lot of things around here, i now participate here because i see the value in an actual male-space, in a world where masculinity is chipped away on every single day.
So many guys are completely lost, having been shamed their whole life and told to be something else no matter what they do. Women grow up being told that they can be this and that and to not let anything stand in their way. Men grow up being presented with an ever-growing list of what they shouldn't do, and nothing else.
So yeah, i would never link directly to TRP. But perhaps tell people about PPD if they ask. At least that's what helped me see some more nuance in the issue.
vengefully_yours 6y ago
Get more exp with girls and more of this will make sense, and not seem so horrible. Why? Because it takes a long time and many experiences to change the neural pathways that have been set in your head for you.
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I have a lot of experience. Probably more than even many of the successful RedPillers. I'm not here because i need help in any way. I'm here to help out.
And that is one of the things i don't like about this place. The psuedoscience and embroidering. But i'm also not in the least interested in arguing about it. If you want to talk like that, do it. I just ignore it, and will keep doing so.
TheFrenchFondler 6y ago
I think Im in a similar situation to the one you described . Currently have no sense of self worth and reading TRP makes me feel worthless, like it's an ideal I can't ever achieve. I lift and box every other day, push my limits and step out of my comfort zone. But nothing seems to work. Seeing a therapist this week, need to fix the internal problems first.
TheSp4rk 6y ago
Two scoops of protein every morning with oatmeal will change the no result.
Why would you feel worthy from the get go? You get to earn your worth, it was never handed to you.
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WalterEArmstrong 6y ago
Please stick with it and don't give up. I can't begin to tell you the depth of despair I sank to before starting to turn the corner and find a way up.
TheFrenchFondler 6y ago
Thanks, a single response means a lot.
mydogfartzwithz 6y ago
Trp is a platform for seeking advice, dont seek advice too much or youll fall in a trap of "I dont know everything so until i do I am not good enough" Thats why some advise taking a break. the downside is if you take too long a break your emotions get soft and you fall apart to be devoured by the blue pill sharks. It happened to me, lost all my frame and simply broke because I had forgotten how the world truely works
Gallobrax 6y ago
I've made a few replies on this thread already. My responses will of course anger some but I do not advocate bringing TRP values to those who have not come here on their own volition.
I am thus delighted that you have provided some additional perspective: that in instances of depression, anxiety panic attacks etc, this kind of knowledge isn't what is first needed. What is needed is a love of self and a feeling of acceptance. This is not TRP but basic mental health - something I've touched on in other places. Indeed, what we do here is not a substitute, but the next step in personal fulfillment and growth (in the communities opinion of course).
In your case I will echo the above poster. Keep at it! If you've made it this far you'll make it the rest of the way, just be sure you have tangible goals and don't just lift, read or plate spin. What ever it is, figure out what you want to do with your time. This is what it means to be a man: everything else be it women, lifting, reading etc is just a means to this end as cold as it is to conclude.
To live any other way would require substituting your dreams for another's.
cashmoney_x 6y ago
I doubt the guy is actually suicidal because of that one event. I think most of this stuff is attention whoring mixed with virtue signalling. I think too many people take everything at face value.
victor_knight 6y ago
I wish I had done more of this kind of thing in my 20s. It's like so illegal now.
ChadThundercockII 6y ago
imagine groping her boobs while she giggles and tries to act all angry at you. so sweet. I did this for 2 years in college.
Hjalmbere 6y ago
What a load of wanky piss flaps! That guy was trolling.
maplemaximus 6y ago
I feel bad for that chap. If we do have him come to the RedPill, he might not be that happy here. He made a big mistake, and we'll hopefully be empathetic and rational enough to help him through it.
Gallobrax 6y ago
For the vast majority already here this isn't a happy place. It is simply another perspective, a way to look at the world with honest logic and reasoning. The picture it paints however is darker then most realize and is a core reason why I never advocate showcasing the community to the uninitiated. One must find it on their own terms. Until then we should focus on shoring up our theories and debates so that when more and more people make it to our door they are able to learn at their own speed.
mydogfartzwithz 6y ago
What mistake? His mistake was buying into societys goal of control. Do you know how many lives are ruined because of some shit like this? Oh no he grabbed some tit. Its like if you were walking around and some random grabbed your man tit and called you fat. Over sexualized pieces of meat. Im not saying that from a fucked up stand point, I get how we see ourselves and if I said that aloud banshees would hound to cut my throat but at the end of the day, they're entitlement goes too far. The selfish entitled few control the selfless rest. Men and women both.
maplemaximus 6y ago
He shouldn’t have went for it again after she made it clear she didn’t want it. In my book if a female says no in a heated moment you hold frame and just make it clear that you’re not playing games and want a definite yes or no answer. Continuing to advance is not the best course of action and it left this female more than likely feeling violated.
He’s going through mental torture right now and probably can’t go for an hour without sheer regret plaguing him. It’s not as simple as some TRP theory, this shit isn’t like that right now.
truecrisis 6y ago
No, you are taking it too literally. He violated another person. Regardless if sexual.
He could have shoved his fist in someone's mouth and played with their tonsils. Same deal. They leave feeling violated.
That's his struggle. Not breaking societies rules.
mydogfartzwithz 6y ago
You must be new here. Read on and learn about the world you live in
truecrisis 6y ago
You are talking about something completely different. You are saying "be selfish so you can be free of societies fucked up system"
Yet you are discrediting the reason why the dude wants to commit suicide.
And regardless if you want to live above the other people - you can't deny that some people want to be decent human beings.
And no, I'm not new here. But I also don't blindly follow a cult. I incorporate what I agree with and let the extremists go on about their business.
mydogfartzwithz 6y ago
Look, because you provided a geuine response Ill do the same. I understand you think you can repair societys ways by being a role model but you will get stepped on and twisted by someone eventually. Theyll say, I bet I can push this guy around until he snaps, Ill have his power, and he'll be an empty shell. You can try but eventually, there always comes a demented person bent on saving their own kin over anyone else. Once you see inside the heads of some of these twisted people your world view will never be so innocent. Unless you live to just reap only benefits selfishly of our world and aim to fix nothing, your conscience will weigh very heavily.
I didnt read the guys posts. But I know a guy who was full of life, abeit homosexual who took his life. Obviously their thought processes were vastly different but, the emotions get so great for people who havent fully endured the societys harshest truths. Its like a river flowing over a rough boulder, smoothing its edges until its as smooth as all the other rocks at the bed of a river, theyre not all the same, but they found their way to let the river be while they can exist with its rough torrent peacefully to. His journey in life will be tough, to be so affected by something so small in the grand scheme.
But, Im telling you, only girls brainwashed to make sex a big deal think of their boobs as this glorious icon of sexual power. Do you think animals having sex in the wild care? Do you think humans having sex in the wild... Oh, we have this construct called "society" Let it beat us down and let it control us. No, weather its effects, know that it is just water trying to help us find our place in the great river. But you can still exist how you'd like.
You want to help society? Grow in strength and use it to give others strength. Those who gain power and use it to make others fear, are only full of fear themselves. We are mirrors of what we believe and think. Good luck. If theres a savior for this world I hope he finds out how to do it, Ive thought of every angle of a leader and still havent thought of how. Maybe