I don't post much on TRP , because while I'm an avid daily reader, I also spend the majority of my time actually living this shit everybody wants to over think.
If you want a SEXUAL relationship with a woman , the only thing you need to do is look your very best, and talk to as many women as you can. Its not rocket science, the bitches that like you will fuck with you.
If you want a REAL (LTR,etc) relationship with a woman, it involves everything I stated above AS WELL AS dealing with women on a financial and more personal level.
You do not need money to get pussy. You do not need money to keep pussy.
You need GAME.
You never heard of the board game "Life" ? Life is just a game; when its your turn, you roll the dice, move forward along in the game, and deal with things as they come until you reach your goals/wins.
Just tired of coming to this subreddit looking for field reports, insights, and questions that need to be asked/thoughts that need to be spoken, yet all I see is people who don't get pussy theorizing and typing up paragraphs of shit that doesn't matter.
work out , dress well , improve your social skills, improve your knowledge , just aim to grow every aspect of yourself as a human being, learn some game, then you can have the world, and everything in it.
I will get backlash and praise for this post, willing to argue with anybody who believes getting pussy takes longer than 1 sentence to explain "How To".
Keep it Simple, Stupid
hahayeahthatscool 6y ago
Nah say what you want but this guy has a point. A lot of the folk here are what we like to call theorycrafters and what need is actual players. Thing is though you'll probably only find players out on the field playing the game. So no matter how you look at it getting out there is just 100x more effective then wasting your time here making weird semantical lists as to what makes a Chad or an Alpha. Take basic game theory and apply it as often as you can in the real world.
realcockadock 6y ago
thanks bro , everybody just needs to keep it simple
Euphoricentia 6y ago
You sound like Avril Lavigne.
realcockadock 6y ago
i'll sound like her all day, I heard she was cloned tho
circlhat 6y ago
At the end of the day you hit a good point, it is simple, but it's even more simple than you describe , the only thing you need is game.
Social skills,dressing well, working out , help you and should be done for you, learning about women doesn't require any of those things. We aren't sleeping with Princesses or Queens but horny perverted women
realcockadock 6y ago
facts
well put, you're totally right, it is as simple as you said, Game > Everything
TheOriginalWasBetter 6y ago
Complicated is a relative term. Not all of us grew up with strong male role models so we are learning this stuff now. It's foreign to us and so that makes it complicated. Just getting up on your soapbox and shouting down anyone who dares ask a question and just telling them how easy it is isn't helpful.
To me lifting isn't complicated. If I wanted to be a dick I could just go around and tell anyone who asks a question about fitness how sad they are for not being able to bench 400 lbs. If I can bench 400 at 165 then why are you benching 275 at 200 lbs? Stop making it so complicated and just do it! Of course someone who doesn't have the same lifting experience I do is going to find it complicated and difficult to get to a 400 lb bench press at any size. It's a learned skill just like anything else, and if you don't know it can be pretty complicated.
And sure, there are probably some guys here who never take an action and just endless post excuses about why they can't go out and talk to women, but that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of legitimate things to ask and discuss that guys who didn't have male role models growing up simply don't know and need help learning.
realcockadock 6y ago
There are plenty legitimate things we all need to get off our chest, what we don't need is field reports still about having approach anxiety and being scared to talk to women.
TheOriginalWasBetter 6y ago
Maybe you didn't have a male role model but you clearly learned it somehow. People often make excuses about why they can't learn, but it's not some innate knowledge people suppress and just need to let out. Learning is a process that involves theory and fundamentals, as well as practice.
And a "great diet" means nothing to person without knowledge of nutrition. Nutrition can be very difficult to learn because of all the misinformation put out by people who want to sell you stuff. Same with lifting. Personal trainers want repeat customers so they come up with all kinds of BS reasons about why you need more sessions after they give you a workout routine or they give you a garbage routine because they don't know how to lift either. Lifting isn't integral calculus, but it is more complicated than just having a consistent routine, otherwise everyone lifting would have a 400 bench and 600 deadlift in less 1-2 years of consistent training.
I do agree with your last statement though.
realcockadock 6y ago
nothing wrong with learning, its just the methods we choose to do so that matter...yet to each its own though. I'm agreeing with you more based on this comment, yet I still believe in the simplicity of it all. Your comment should be how the complexity may have its place though, thanks for this dialogue
SocietalEngineering 6y ago
Yes, keep it simple.
But that doesn't mean that it IS simple for everyone. For those who can actually do this stuff, it seems simple. It's certainly simple for me now. But 10 years ago? It was impossible.
I think we forget just how advanced we are compared to the average modern male. We are the 1%. What's simple to us is not simple to the newcomer.
We are miracle workers to the average man - some people need these over-complicated step by step instructions, until they master the mental state necessary to make it all internalized and simple.
realcockadock 6y ago
nothing I said is anything un-feasible or drastically complicated to get started/work on...you are 100% right, but even the over-complicated instructions given can be deduced to simplicity! You are right though, some just may require that to help their brains understand.
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Overly focusing on any kind of crutch, including this subreddit helping with women paradoxically violates the very essence of this sub - do not pedestalize your dates, hook-ups, etc. including potential ones.
Yes, overly analyzing this whole thing is pedestalizing.
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SexdictatorLucifer 6y ago
You will get both backlash and praise for this post because it hits the bulls-eye 50% of the time and misses the entire target the other 50%. Whether or not you need to keep things more simple is variable from person to person and can change by the day. Also, new guys do in fact do need to type up paragraphs, ponder, and discuss in order to make lasting change in their mindset.
This post is really just kind of pointless.
Also, you state you read this everyday. You're consuming a product daily and then trying to shit on the ones producing it?
Denver_Luv3 6y ago
The best thing I've read about what the OP describes is "Reveal vs Restructure:"
OP is coming from a position (or rhetorical position) of "uncovering a pre-existing SMV and personality that is attractive to women." Good for him. For guys who don't have that, though it takes a lot more effort and maybe a lot more complexity.
realcockadock 6y ago
whats up, nice excerpt included in your post. I definitely believe it takes some gentlemen more effort , especially when they are getting the bar rolling in this direction, but I would argue the need of complexity. Thanks for the comment fam, cheers
CQC3 6y ago
More or less. I took the effort to radically rethink my beliefs over many years and it has changed me in certain ways.
As someone who had major anxiety and over thought everything, stuck in my head as it were, keeping it simple for me is the next level. Because for me, keeping it simple by my standard of over stimulation is actually just right, while another man might find he needs to actually think more or consider things.
There's a saying I've been telling myself to remind myself whenever I'm out and about, "dim your awareness". It doesn't mean to dumb yourself down, but rather limit the scope of your awareness on purpose, only checking in the greater picture once in awhile to see if you're steering right.
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mr-no-homo 6y ago
The quality of the product has been iffy as of late. Op post hits everything right on. It's not rocket science and we don't need threads with 19 chapters on why someone didn't get laid.
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SexdictatorLucifer 6y ago
Nothing they see in the field will have a lasting change in their mindset if they have no idea what they're observing. Seeing "red" isn't as simple as tossing on a pair of GLO-approved pussy rampage glasses. It's takes a lot of time to reverse the conditioning. Yes, they need to be getting out there along the way, there's no doubt about that, but the more aware you are going into an experience the more you will be able to extract from it, which expedites the process.
I really do get what you're trying to say, but it is about as pointless as "just get off your computer and go lift bro" in a weight training forum.
realcockadock 6y ago
I understand where you are coming from now. While I stand by my perspective, yours is powerful as well. It is more complicated than my post may suggest, but at the same time everything I suggested should lead whomever in the right direction. Add my recommendations + this sub/a mentor and their going to the moon. I agree more so with your original comment as well, that I cant bash the producers within the sub for...producing. Isnt what the sub is all about? I would just like a few less bullshit posts on here.
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realcockadock 6y ago
Thank. You. I swear maxing out all of these is all that's needed.
cheers to you bro
dr_warlock 6y ago
I've written a lot of detailed posts, fieldreports, and essays here. But I'm getting to a point where it's internalized in my subconscious. It's not a conscious dialog with myself anymore. It just flows. An emotion kicks in and I act on it without thought and it works. That's where you want to be.
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Not delegating the task to your subconscious is due to two reasons: having bad previous programming, and not trusting your intuition. I got rid of the bp shit, but then you gotta trust in your biology. It's hard to let go when you're used to keeping track of all the variables and functions like a script. Why would you? Your subconacious is so much more powerful than your rationality. Reality goes way beyond your comprehension. Automate that task. Supervise with your rationality and step in when necessary. But other than that, learn to let go and let your biology do it's thing.
realcockadock 6y ago
I believe the phenomenon of your first paragraph can be achieved via approaches, as well as reading/listening to mentors. all to their own degrees.
Your second paragraph is heavily intertwined with part of my mission/journey right now. Giving in fully to my biology, and automating as much of my thinking as possible.
sincerely appreciate your comment man, very well put and applies to my own life in certain ways very much so.
cheers my guy!
RedSkeller 6y ago
Sticky this to Ask TRP, seriously. It's getting pretty bad, maybe it's the influx of kids going back to school but there is a bunch of coddling over simple topics that could be explored in the real world. I think the internet age has made people more willing to watch or read as opposed to experiencing. Your post is spot on, get out there.
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realcockadock 6y ago
thanks mate! not rocket science , just females
ther0ach 6y ago
Your post just saved us (newbies) a lot of time and effort.
realcockadock 6y ago
same post as above, don't know if its sarcastic or not?
its all simple mate, it really.
part of your DNA has known " how " to reproduce even before we evolved into more conscious beings. do you really think its that fucking complicated if your programmed to do it damn near automatically?
SpaceTimeinFlux 6y ago
What's the easiest way to develop game?
mental_models 6y ago
'Game' is the part missing from the KISS philosophy. You only need decent genes and decent social experience to play at a minimal level. You have to be able to see and understand the system to really develop elite Game. It's like any other science or field of study. How do you develop true business skill? How do you develop true psychological insight? In order to learn those things, you must learn the really important models that drive those systems.
realcockadock 6y ago
I agree, the mental models of the system of Game definitely wasn't added in the keep it simple model. Yet, if you keep it simple, you'll learn that real game is something you just have to experience. the failures, the successes, XP outweighs anything you can read or mentally frame/map out, XP trumps everything.
mental_models 6y ago
Need lots of both (experience and insight) to reach a high level.
KISS is good general advice, and can help a lot of people to at least get in the game, and/or improve their current SMV.
realcockadock 6y ago
that's my only point. once you are in the game , everything is WIDE open.
facts
Fapisluv 6y ago
Go talk to people(both men and women) in general,and try to stay and talk to them for as long as possible.Another,is developing a dgaf outlook,which will come over time and by doing things you like.
realcockadock 6y ago
typed my response before I saw yours, if I would've known you told him the right thing to do I wouldn't have added my 2 cents. Thanks for your comment, and or helping them out!
cheers mate lol fap is luv <3
Fapisluv 6y ago
My name brings ptsd induced nightmares to no fappers
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realcockadock 6y ago
go out into the real world and talk to every woman that you see that you want.
Senorbubbz 6y ago
I see this, and it makes sense to me. In the moment however, I am struck with this limiting belief of: what do I have to say of value to her right now? why should anyone waste their time talking to me?
nebder 6y ago
A positive and enjoyable social interaction is providing value. The words you say are less relevant.
Laugh, joke, tease and keep it light and fun. Lead the convo by asking questions that get the other person talking about them self. You should enjoy the conversation yourself. That makes the whole thing fun and enjoyable for everyone. Maybe you close maybe you don't. Doesn't matter if you had fun chatting.
Every time you chat someone up you get better at it and gain frame control. The only way to practice is to do it.
realcockadock 6y ago
well put, reading your comment helped drill home concepts into my mind, and the essentials needed to navigate this landscape!
thanks for the comment
realcockadock 6y ago
change the frame. its not about saying anything of value, its being a person of value. SHE is the one who should be hamstring what to say of value to YOU, as you should be qualifying her. No one is wasting their time talking to you if they're talking to a GOD. They don't believe their talking to a GOD? They think they can do better with BetaBobby in her cell, or Joe Schmoe across the bar? Tell that bitch good luck, and get out of her face.
The frame should always be: you want to fuck with her, so you approach to see what she is like, but you are only going to fuck with her, if she fucks with you, how you want to be fucked with, you follow me?
comment back if we need to keep discussing this and cheers fam
briskestbrisket 6y ago
The frame should always be: you want to fuck with her, so you approach to see what she is like, but you are only going to fuck with her, if she fucks with you, how you want to be fucked with, you follow me?
Please elaborate. Your use of the word fucking in such a general sense has me thinking with my small head.
realcockadock 6y ago
imagine this mental process You: I think that girl is cute , I'm going to approach her and see what she is like / you approach her and through your conversation you find out if she is game for the kind of relationship you are looking for. If she's not, next her. If she acts in anyway disrespectful or in a way you don't approve of if she wants you in her life, you tell her once, or you next her. If you tell her once, and she goes against the grain again, next her.
Youre looking for a certain type of relationship. Gear your conversation to form a foundation for that type of relationship, and if the other person is game for it, then knock it out the park. if not, its her lost, because you still have unlimited tries to get a female in your life.
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If you build it, they will come.
Build a frame no one can break and you will succeed in everything. Remove those things, people, etc who would stand in your way of success.
Be like water.
Simple.
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LostLittleBoi 6y ago
Idk man, shit's pretty complicated. I can lift and work on my career until the cows come home but itll do nothing, if anything I get laid less. I used to do nothing all day and sell drugs, got laid a LOT. How tf am I gonna feel happy as a sexless "self improver" when any girl I talk to is already fucking some dealer pimp or sugar daddy, and bound to go back to them once I bore her to death. I can't even bring myself to try at anything anymore, only way out seems to go back to being a degenerate... Or maybe switch to a more money oriented career and just live weekends covered in hookers and blow? Idk, sounds better than nothing.
briskestbrisket 6y ago
I feel you on this, man. It's almost like having a bag of pills and a couple felonies increases your SMV more than a godly physique, lucrative career/education and a dgaf attitude all combined.
LostLittleBoi 6y ago
Yea, the negatives aren't worth the gains but goddamn... Life was a lot easier
briskestbrisket 6y ago
They're bottom feeders though. Vet them out. In a few years they'll have drugged themselves ugly. And if you were about your shit, in that time you'll be fully rp'ed up and pulling ass you never thought you'd be in man. It definitely is hard when 100% of girls are party girls. But know when you need to cut it off. Have standards and uphold them.
Yumey95 6y ago
Do you have advice on how to get out of my head and man up? I want to challenge myself and talk to random girls anywhere but I don't.
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realcockadock 6y ago
I do not want to sound like a dick towards you because I believe the sincerity in your concern. You get out of your head by living in your body. The overall all solution is you need to gain comfort in speaking with strangers FIRST, then worry about sleeping with strangers SECOND. Practice just giving people genuine compliments as they walk by , Ex: you see a girl and she is hot, but you like her jacket. tell her you like her style while you walk past, expect nothing (she may say thank you at least), then keep it moving...Another practice is engaging old people who are strangers to you in conversation. This helps you have non sexual conversations and can help increase comfort/confidence in just talking to people within a normal convo...the last practice I recommend is to look into getting maybe a part time sales job...I use to sell tuxedos so I have some XP talking to strangers Every. Single. Day about things pertaining to an emotional situation: a wedding. Speaking with so many different characters increased my confidence with girls as well, as the more you talk to people, the more you learn how to talk to people.
Summary: start talking to strangers (old people, the unattractive, everyone) about simple things going on around u, or about themselves. the best conversationalist are the best listeners, just let people talk to u and go into their world. the more confident u gain with this, the more u realize its the same with a woman, just with a more sexual context.
hmu if u need more advice and good luck doing your thing playa
Yumey95 6y ago
Thanks for the advice! It's funny because it's always the first step, actually engaging in the conversation is the obstacle. After that it's just smooth sailing. I guess it's a fear of appearing weird and stumbling with words but how else am I going to get better. Your post made me hopeful!
realcockadock 6y ago
before you know it you'll be on top of your game!
varrr 6y ago
You just sound frustrated. And it's normal if you are a daily reader here and read the same things over and over again. But I find your post stupid if you ask me. It's just like "guys, I'm tired... just be better, it's not hard". What kind of approach is that? If you are learning a skill and your mentor just went like: "dude WTF just be better, just do the thing, it's easy"..
Or if you suffer of a random phobia and your terapist told you: "aah man, all bullshit, just do the thing already". would you accept those answers? This is basically a forum, a place where people talk. I'll argue that most people need to "write out" all the shit that doesn't matter before appreciating the truth of what you just said and just go out there experiencing stuff.
realcockadock 6y ago
cheers, thanks for the comment mate
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Spot on, IMO.
It reminds me of the Good Looking Loser's guide for busy guys.......always look good, talk to many people, ask at least one attractive female if they want to meet up for drinks that night, if they do or you're already at the bar, invite them for a nightcap, and finally forget all about Game (which, of course, is Game).
realcockadock 6y ago
Thanks for the comment. I love Chris and Scotty's material from GLL and Ive learned from them a ton as well. Some don't know that both of them actually studied game in the PUA type of way, so the fact that they know both sides of this thing (PUA tactics vs. a dude who gets girls "naturally") and still choose to preach the path of least resistance, leads me to believe that like you said, by forgetting about Game, you're still running it.
A pimp documentary taught me: The best game is the game you cant peep at all...
cheers
bolupua 6y ago
It's easy that way, but you will initially get girls in the 3-4 category. Maybe a 5, or a 7 but its completely crazy or BPD.
The point of TRP is to improve yourself, get high quality women, keep them and recognize bullshit.
realcockadock 6y ago
please respond as I think we both can gain from this.
what you state as the point of TRP? I 100% agree.
I also believe you when you say that you initially get lower quality women! You are spot on mate , but this post is more so directed to those at ground zero.
If anyone can tell me that a jacked, well dressed, clean kept, socially aware and competent individual who is quite knowledgable, as well as ambitious about his life journey isn't going to be able to have his picking of a greater quantity of high quality women, they wouldn't be speaking from a factual basis.
If you are on point with everything I just mentioned ( and only going higher ) , you have access to girls 7+, and the higher up you yourself go in improving yourself and recognizing game, the higher up the scale your chances in nailing 9's and 10's.
I do not think we have a real disconnect on perspective , I just know if you are on point with everything stated in this comment, your comment, and my original post, you can get bad bitches. Ive done it, my friends have done it, my mentors have done it, strangers have done it.
I'm not trying to bash all the theories and perspectives on this subreddit as they provide valuable insight, I'm simply stating the obvious : it doesn't take all this extra shit everyone is always talking about to get bitches, keep them in check, and recognize their games.
hit me back bro, thanks for commenting on my 1st post
TheYekke 6y ago
improve yourself, escape the corporate death march, then when you are ready engage with bitches on your terms.
From my cold dead hard economic brain, i'm going to state the obvious: Time is the cruelest commodity we have. Women these days don't care about it until they run out of it. Then they are trying to make it happen, all in a hurry. No woman under 30 is worth keeping around, no woman over 34 is worth having around.
For men, a slow economy now means our best years have shifted to our 40s when the 'fuck it' factor gets stronger every year. Then again, Fucking has never been easier, relationships never been harder, and the outcome (kids) never have been so hazardous.
No woman under 30 is worth it, no woman over 34 is worth it any more
realcockadock 6y ago
couldn't have said better, friend. Your "cold dead hard economic brain" cuts through the bullshit and speaks nothing but truth: no woman under 30 (my age group) is worth it, and she wont be worth it anymore when she ages, because she already rode the Carousel fucking guys like me.
cold world, but we gotta live in it.
cheers mate
bolupua 6y ago
I have to agree. I'm 39 and had disastrous results with women in the 20-23 range. My ex-wife is 45 and also, terrible relationship.
Now I have a 30 yo girlfriend and she's great BUT, at that age, the wall is too close. They really want to marry/have kids/family/etc. really fast.
22 year-old girls are too immature, basically still teenagers. 45 YO girls are witches and not really attractive. 30 YO girls are perfect, but too attached, etc.
I would thing that the perfect age is from 25 to 30. Well at least that's my experience.
realcockadock 6y ago
interesting incite, definitely also starting to see your description of 30 YO women being applicable to some of the 22 year old women...they lived, they grew up, they rode the carousel fast, and now they want find the beta to save them from the mess they started, only to leave him for the next tallest tree..i say they should get the fuck outta here
thanks for the comment bro
ther0ach 6y ago
Your post just saved us newbies a lot of time and effort.
realcockadock 6y ago
I don't know every thing my friend, but I know what I know. make sure your basics are on point, then everything else that you "need" to learn can only be learned via getting your XP up..its not that you cant learn things on this subreddit (I do frequently!)..its that its common knowledge that you will learn more about male - female interaction by EXPERIENCING more male - female interactions VS. reading about them from people with very minimal XP. you taking game instructions from a LVL 10 or a LVL 100? 100, because you know who only got to 100 from actually slaying dragons , and not aspiring to slay dragons.
ther0ach 6y ago
I hear you man. I agree with you that you'll learn more from actually taking action rather than just read it on here. That's true.
realcockadock 6y ago
Thank you man. While this subreddit has droplets of gold spilled on it every day, the real gold mine is where the bitches are! in all walks of life, never forget that, friends!
cheers