that's right. i said it. online dating is for pussies. if you got butt hurt because of that, then you're a pussy. or you can continue to live your life in denial. but then you'll always be a pussy and never getting as much as you want to.
chew on this, the top 20% of guys on tinder, then ones who actually slay? they don't even need tinder, only when they need to find a quick fuckbuddy and they have so much abundance it's very easy to add to their harem. im guessing you're not in the top tier of men. i'm not either.
so, instead of trying to play chess like checkers, find a game that works for you. and the only way to do that is to actually GO OUT and try something NEW, like pretending to be a bum. it's very liberating and helps you build a rock solid frame and idgaf attitude. get out from under your rock. and i know you're under a rock, because i too was like you. i played video games, jerked off, and browse pickup/seduction like a damn job while juggling around a few different dating apps. just like youre doing right now.
just get out of the house everyday. nowadays, i'm usually at my house from a little after i wake up to a little before i sleep. i don't always hang out with friends either. i go around exploring my city and meet new people on the daily. and when you run into someone doing exactly what you're doing (nothing) then you might find yourself a doing nothing together.
get out of the house. at first it might seems difficult or makes you uneasy. after a while, you start to look forward to it.
EDIT: This is to those struggling with approach anxiety and are just making excuses as to why they don't go out and run game.
Throwqazwsxedcrfv 6y ago
Yeah, no. I have smashed many, many times from tinder and bumble. Even met LTR material from bumble. In my town there really isn't any centralized location to unattractive women, these are hands down the best options available. I'm not gonna go walk around a mall or something alone trolling for pussy, that's just creepy and frankly a waste of my time. FOH
ObviouslyRP 6y ago
Ok OP I didn't even have to read your shit post to give a rational reason why you're wrong, and at the very least tinder is great.
Tinder takes nearly no effort to find new plates whenever you have a bit of spare time. I'm waiting for my wild caught Alaskan salmon to cook; I'm smashing that heart button and sending out a quick opening, response to new prospects. Only one message per prospect per day.
Take your pathetic attempt at shaming over to literally any other sub.
ObviouslyRP 6y ago
Ok OP I didn't even have to read your shit post to give a rational reason why you're wrong, and at the very least tinder is great.
Tinder takes nearly no effort to find new plates whenever you have a bit of spare time. I'm waiting for my wild caught Alaskan salmon to cook; I'm smashing that heart button and sending out a quick opening, response to new prospects. Only one message per prospect per day.
Take your pathetic attempt at shaming over to literally any other sub.
wataDs 6y ago
I agree with you, OP. I can pull a chick within a week or two off Tinder but can absolutely not approach IRL. It's a big disparity, crutch even. But heck, I'm not complaining.
OneLifeSucks 6y ago
Online dating is great if you're a decently attractive guy who works a shit ton or a decently attractive older man looking for divorced women or young chicks with no prospects. Any other scenario I'd recommend doing some other shit.
[deleted] 6y ago
Online dating is fine.
I just like getting out of the house and doing shit and seeing friends or making new ones and picking up girls.
Of course the catch 22 is that guys that are successful at online dating would do just fine going out instead.
THE_StrongBoy 6y ago
Online dating is dogshit - human communication is like 90% body language or some high percentage. How do you communicate your masculine energy to her over the internet? Online dating (online plating) of high quality women is accomplished by those with good genetics. The fucking of mega hotties by everyone else happens when you show her your big balls and never let up until she touches them.
its like a dietary supplement at best, and should only be consumed by people who can already talk to girls in real life otherwise, like op said you're a pussy and hindering development
Throwqazwsxedcrfv 6y ago
Son, it's just a tool. what you do is you set up a place to meet up pretty quick (I usually did within a week of I'm interested). Then you can "make them touch your big balls" or whatever. But at the same time, I've found my success rate is pretty high (I can duck about 90% of the time of i want) if i just treat them with respect and have a normal conversation.
iamneptuno 6y ago
Masculine energy comes from good genetics, son.
THE_StrongBoy 6y ago
Masculine energy comes from your willpower and state of mind, posture, body language, tone of voice, etc sonny jim
Don't speak unless you know what you're talking about
iamneptuno 6y ago
Willpower and tone of voice are genetic. Body language is a product of genetic factors. Posture is the least important part of body language.
THE_StrongBoy 6y ago
You're retarded, that's genetic too
vandaalen 6y ago
How would you know what the "top 20%" of men do? You are just hating on online dating because you are an ugly motherfucker who can get none. There I said it...
Tinder is the best invention since sliced bread. Not only do I not even need to leave my bed in order to find something to fuck, the next bitch is also always only one swipe away.
ayylma088 6y ago
you either live in the Philippines or you are one of the upper 20% mentioned if it really is THAT easy for you to slay on tinder.
Its nowhere near as good as it used to be 2-3 years ago
RedPilledGodEmperor 6y ago
Yeah, it used to be MUCH better 3 years ago and I was able to get responses and meetings in person, which lead to fucks. Now, it's a lot harder.
vengefully_yours 6y ago
Fuck, he's an old guy too! If he can, you probably can.
[deleted] 6y ago
or he's just lying. i expect most posts in a place that is built for macho bravado to be made up.
RedPillgrim 6y ago
i'm probably sexier than you
vandaalen 6y ago
Stop listening to your mother
Von_Tempsky 6y ago
That's some gay shit right thur...
iamneptuno 6y ago
What range of females do you get off it?
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vandaalen 6y ago
The ones with pussies to masturbate into.
vengefully_yours 6y ago
That's the best kind
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littleblacktruck 6y ago
Online dating is for guys too chickenshit to approach women in real life. IRL things happen in real time. Unedited. Unfiltered. I suppose POF is nice for you guys who can't get laid any other way.
FormlessAllness 6y ago
You are supposed to do both dumbass. Online dating is passive. It takes little effort. It isn't supposed to replace real life. Abundance bro
[deleted] 6y ago
sending out 200 messages to get 10 replies is not " little effort" nor is it "passive".
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FormlessAllness 6y ago
I think you might just not be attractive
[deleted] 6y ago
yeah everyone says that on this sub. thing is, i am. my last gf was hotter than most girls i've even seen on tinder. i have and can hook up with hot girls outside of online dating.
besides, you're literally just a troll. this sub is about becoming attractive not spamming "follow rules 1 and 2" like an incel.
FormlessAllness 6y ago
No your behavior and fake anecdotes say otherwise
[deleted] 6y ago
contribute something relevant or fuck off. if you want to troll and shit post go to the entire rest of reddit.
FormlessAllness 6y ago
Don't even attempt to take the high ground you have a moronic view and horrible advice and you're a clown and there's zero trolling on my part. you want to anonymously claim you get dimes yeah it's very evident you have no idea what you're talking about. You easy can do both and should. Sweep right when taking a shit, flirt via Snapchat or hit girls up that check out your profile on Pof. You should not be spending 200 messages out. You do it in your down time. It does not replace real life. Online dating allows you to meet people you never would in real life. The goal isn't to chat to people online but to set up dates asap.
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DamnDirtyApe87 6y ago
It's worth a shot to try both, I did. I guess many guys that want to try dating again, like me over a year ago, will start out with the online dating thing since you keep hearing it works. X found his gf on tinder, isn't it wonderful? I tried them all, with my old shitty pictures and obviously didn't have much success. Had a couple of dates though, so wasn't all bad but the time investment wasn't worth the flaking, ghosting, etc and I did not understood why. I told myself, screw this and started approaching. Read tips on seduction, viewed some PUA tips and tricks and used the shotgun method. I've been rejected for more then a 150 times I guess, but it didn't matter. I got over my approach anxiety, I searched and meditated on what I did wrong and why some things weren't working. Why does some of this PUA stuff work in the first place? I got here and I took the pill.. and THAT is something you can't do through online dating.
If you are like me and you're terrible with online dating, go out and approach. Get rejected, improve your SMV and try again.
ex_addict_bro 6y ago
There was once that wolf meme, "angry wolf", "insanity wolf", something like that. You remind me of it.
Scandinavianredpill 6y ago
Haha it's amazing. pussy on a plate. You are just not attractive enough... not it does not make me "uneasy" to get out the house. why would I use tons of time in a club when I can send a couple of messages and get pussy?.
Throwqazwsxedcrfv 6y ago
Yeah OP doesn't value his own time
futmut 6y ago
You're totally right dude...the majority here are guys who rarely see pussy if not at all...They act as alpha's cause they found the red pill from 1 week and think they have changed...jokes on them tho...Change is way harder then these scrubs could ever imagine..
Online dating works only for those who are extremely capable with message and i think if you are in this subreddit you arent, or you are extremely good looking...again highly unlikely since you are here to learn how to get pussy...
People keep saying lift brah, do this brah to get girls, do that brah, hold frame brah...but in reality they are your average joe who has no idea what he is doing...
Doing real life cold approaches is the only way to get good with women, and dont expect miracles cause thats not how it works...
[deleted] 6y ago
you're right. dating sites are a waste of time. most girls i match with are under 5 (i just spam the like button like all men have to). the few handfuls of girls that are above 5, don't even give me the time of day or reply. they will reply if i say something hilarious, and then get bored and ignore me and unmatch.
My last LTR was a 9/10, i have had cute as fuck girls tell me in cute and openly try to fuck me sometimes at parties. one girlfriend i got simply saw my pic on my friends phone and said "i want to meet that guy". not trying to brag, but just pointing out the disparity in online dating vs real SMV. banging 5s and under is not something i have to do, but i've become lazy socially and don't go out like i used to.
my new plan is just to join random clubs, and meetup type things in my city, and just talk to girls there. after that, im doing to day game and approach random girls like 3-4 times a week and get numbers. i've wasted months on this dating site bullshit and the most i accomplished was almost fucking a cute tranny cause i was so desperate for some ass, only for the fucking freak to ignore me after getting bored talking to me lol.
jaaaaayzuz
trpthrowaway2003 6y ago
Do Both
Online dating is a tool, if you meet the requirements for Tinder you should use it.
Going out and meeting people should be a developed skill as well.
Johnny_S 6y ago
Tinder is basically a platform to find fuckmates.
vengefully_yours 6y ago
While I'm not using any of those apps, sure as fuck not the websites, I have pulled ass from the virtual world onto my tiny semi erect member often. My issue arises from my age and the way those apps/sites regulate ages. I don't get the chance to meet the young ones, it's all old haggard dregs. Before they started doing that shit, it was easy. Also, I was younger, 36 looks better than 48 online. In person, they see gray hair and great skin covering muscles, they rarely think I'm nearly 50. They'll hamster it away as long as it's not put out there.
All you gotta do is not be fat. Don't look like a beta shrub. Then have a decent amount of game.
If you're like me, and prefer to fuck girls half your age, it's probably not going to work. Especially if half your age is 12, that's just wrong man. I polished my game long before the internet, so I do quite well without it.
Still though, I agree with twatwaffle mcfuckface, get out and do something. If you don't have game in person, you'll meet them and they'll bail on you every fucking time. It's only a way to meet the girl, isolate her and escalate still needs to be done. No game, no poontang. No experience and learning from failure, no game.
darksynthwave 6y ago
That kind of generalization is not correct. Online dating has its own level of complex layers in itself. If you are referring to websites that you pay for subscription and hope some low SMV girl will reply to your hello message, you may be correct. But there are some levels in online dating that one can not experience in face to face social interaction. For example lately i am using tinder to bring girls directly to my place without even dating. This is extremely low cost high reward situation and definitely not for pussies.
iwasbornred 6y ago
What if I don't do online dating, am not butt hurt, and think you're being ridiculous?
Many dudes waste time with it but it can be a valuable tool.
RedPillgrim 6y ago
my inspiration for the post was for people with approach anxiety might've been important to mention. online dating should only be done after you conquer your AA rather than using it as a crutch to try and meet women because your AA makes you too scared.
NYCSPARKLE 6y ago
Online dating still requires approaching a woman (in this case, someone you've just exchanged a few texts with) in person and convincing her to hook up with you.
I think you see online dating as a Postmates for ordering girls without any work involved, which means you simply misunderstand it.
Being in the top 20% gets you a swipe. It doesn't get you laid.
I agree that people should prioritize day game, but dating apps are clutch.
iwasbornred 6y ago
Ahhh. This is very true.
Dudes just need to realize other people's subjective opinions of them are completely irrelevant.
My mom had a saying "what somebody else thinks about you is none of your damn business"
vengefully_yours 6y ago
It's none of your business if that cute blonde hostess is eye fucking you every time she leads someone to their seat?
It's none of your concern if you reek like a French public toilet on a hot August afternoon?
If you're not fucking up some social thing, wearing plaid with polka dots, and people still don't like you, it's their problem. If they do like you, and they're worth giving a shit about, then you need to be aware of it.
About approach anxiety, the only way you're going to get over it is to flood yourself with rejection. If you're getting rejected for something easily corrected, you need to know what it is. You should give a fuck. If it's you're too short or shit you can't change, fuck them, there's going to be others who don't give a fuck.
In short don't be that annoying sperg following the stripper home after she gets off work.
iwasbornred 6y ago
The hostess is none of your business unless you want to fuck her. Then, at that point, her attraction to you is relevant to your strategy. But as soon as you're no longer gaming her, it's none of your business again.
Point is, their THOUGHTS are not affecting you. Their actions because of their thoughts may be, but if it's only thoughts, and their ACTIONS are not affecting you- none of your business.
Obviously controlling people's perceptions is important, but for the purposes of this particular problem, I think it's a useful "proverb"
I agree the best way to end AA is just getting in the reps, but I'm sure for some guys each rep is soooooo scary that they're fucked from the beginning due to their anxiety. They need to internalize the truth that other people's opinions are, just that, opinions. And most people are dumb as fuck, so their opinions are too.
THE_StrongBoy 6y ago
U rite, but we got a lotta bloops around here these days lets see how they react LOL
tankrepititionpug 6y ago
While it is good advice to go out in the real world as true social interaction is what we should be doing, I'm sensing you are simply not an attractive person.
Your goal from here on out should be to raise your attractiveness in whatever way you can. Lift, style your hair in a way that best suits your facial structure, wear stylish and modern clothing, etc.
Don't blame your lack of success on Tinder on other people; you're failing to take responsibility, and that is simply blue.
[deleted] 6y ago
he might just have shitty pics and a shitty profile. i did alot of experimenting with pics and profile, and while i was the same person with the same attractiveness, some configurations got like 500% more attention and dates. you do actually need to research how to make a good profile, have good body language in the pics, show you have a social life and are interesting, say cock/funny shit in profile bio etc.
also getting responses on dating sites is an art in itself and very different from real life, "hi my name is jeff" gets laughed at on tindr, but it would probably work in a bar. dating sites require a sexual strategy all on their own, its possible this guy just sucks at it but is actually good looking.
tankrepititionpug 6y ago
I didn't think of that, could be. I'll have to do some researching myself, nothing like more abundance.
[deleted] 6y ago
yeah. i know cause i could actually get pretty good looking women IRL, but on dating sites you'd think i looked like a mutant version of jack black. i didn't get any results on them till i did a ton of research. one great source is the studies that okcupid does. they constantly run stats on their user base on things like what facial expression women like, what kind of messages get a high reply rate, the kind of activities in pictures that get high interest from women etc etc. really great stuff.
tankrepititionpug 6y ago
That sounds like too much work actually. I'd rather meet them irl if I have to our that much work into it...
[deleted] 6y ago
yeah pretty much. I've disagreed with every single comment in here that says dating sites are "easy" or even that worthwhile. It takes a fuck load of effort to turn into a constant stream of ass, and that time and effort could be spent elsewhere. Unless you're a top 20% male, like the OP says, but how many people are actually that?
I mostly did it because I'm a pussy and I keep putting off cold approaching women lol. I'm not good at getting laid unless I can lay the ground work online for a bit.
[deleted] 6y ago
I think online dating is simply the best.