I've noticed a pattern with controlling women. They're not like their male counterparts. They seem social and charismatic but it's like a controlling woman is an autistic woman. They don't know how to break free from being serious in conversation and eventually render themselves high strung. And not far from the branch, a controlling woman is a vindictive woman; looking to get revenge and to appear she is still in control. She'll use her white knights for the dirty grunt work and most of the time the white knight at her immediate disposal is her monogamist boy toy.
Here's an example. This girl I met adds me and I message her with a simple greeting. She keeps talking to me to I figure the fish needs a bite. I know she has a bf but hoes will be hoes so I flirt with her a little. She flirts back. But after a bit she starts getting serious and telling me how the last guy couldn't keep a secret (about her cheating). I see this as a double shit test. First she's changing the mood to a serious tone. Never a good tone to talk to women in. Second she's telling me something bad happened the last time she did it, implying the question "will I have better game than him to keep it hush hush?"
I call her out for getting so serious, call her last guy an idiot, and switch to more playful vibe. To which she replies saying she's not always this serious (laughs), appears to move to new subject matter... but again ends her reply in yet another serious tone about what she thinks about cheating. (which is funny because she admitted to doing it and now she's trying to appear morally superior about it now. Watch what they do not what they say) so by now I've picked up that she gets too damn serious right off the bat and we probably don't have good chemistry. If I'm not having fun she's not worth my time. So I tease her and call her 'ol miss serious' and say we can't keep talking cause she kills my playful vibe. I know some of you more experienced men could blast through this. I'm sure if I wanted to I could be clever and worked with this girl for the lay but something in my gut was saying 'walk away' and I wasn't feeling the chemistry anymore.
Here's where her autism kicks in. Like I said controlling women with serious tendencies seem to have 'female autism'. They don't see playful social cues well. So what does she do now that I've playfully removed myself from the conversation? Does she play back? Does she let the convo simply die? No. She feels rejected and insulted. She's lost control. I refused to get serious with her and have ejected myself from her game. She gets her white knight bf to send me a message. It went a little something like this:
"Stop talking to [girl]. She showed me your messages. She's in a relationship with me and doesn't want you talking to her ever again."
Okay so now she shows you the messages. Of course I'm the bad guy. Not the fact she kept talking to me about stuff she really shouldn't be talking with me about for just meeting! 'Ol miss serious sends me this message after
"This conversation is over. Do not talk to me again."
Jesus christ it wasn't this obvious before but it's apparent now that this woman is reeking with control issues. I probably dodged a bullet. I now wonder if "something bad happened" last time she cheated was purposefully done by her. Not only did I playfully tease her and already left the conversation on my own agency, she got vindictive, and she sought to re-frame the conversation by 'commanding me' that the conversation was over. What a cunt.
I guarantee that she won several brownie points with her man by showing him the texts. She realized she couldn't get anything reaffirming from me (sex, validation, attention) so she turns in the 'evidence' and gets trustworthy tokens from her white knight. I've been in this exact position before. I was the white knight before. I know exactly where this guy is and now I see exactly what happened behind the scenes with the female I was in a 'monogamist' relationship with.
Remember men, monogamy is a one way street. You get exclusive to her and she gets everybody. Unless she can't get someone, she'll then reaffirm her 'loyalty' to you.
yummyluckycharms 6y ago
This reminds me of so many women in toronto.....
Its like their ego can't take it and they need to create this fantasy that they are the one rejecting me and I'm that I'm some sort of pursuer....sometimes I feel like I'm waking up in bizzaro land
AtlasAnt 6y ago
I had one kind of like this recently, in short, the end of the conversation ended like this:
Her: "I'm so sick of this! Don't ever call me again!" Me: "... You're the one who called me." Silence
awalt_cupcake 6y ago
Exactly. I've gotten to the point where I let them believe they ended it. No good can come from provoking them further.
momomotorboat 6y ago
EXACTLY. If they feel that you ended it, they'll need to get even in some way. When I'm done, I find some way to let things dwindle, then reach out seeming kind of interested. Keep up this pattern until she cuts me off.
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GroundhogLiberator 6y ago
I don't remember Timmy Turner being so alpha. I guess fairy godparents create the ultimate abundance mentality
yummyluckycharms 6y ago
Always, always, always ghost. the power of the state is at their fingertips - and the court system no longer follows the innocent until proven guilty in practice.
If going no contact provides the same result as meeting them to give them closure with less risk, why bother giving them ammo to shoot you with?
[deleted] 6y ago
Yeah I live in Toronto. The delusion here is super strong. I wonder if it has anything to do with the ban on men's groups at U of T and all the feminist psychobabble propagating from there.
The things my friends tell me about that school makes it seem like a true cultural cesspool, perfect for breeding these comically inane egos.
yummyluckycharms 6y ago
Its definitely the system there....if people (government, family, society, etc) keeps on telling you that your pussy is gold and that you are so amazing because you have one, when somebody tells you that they dont want you - it can be impossible for some women to understand. Its a sense of entitlement taken to extremes
ECoast_Man 6y ago
Oh Jesus, you become so desensitized to this if you date at all in that City.
Many times I've looked at my phone after a day of work and see double digit missed text messages from the same girl because I stopped writing back when it was clear there was nothing going on.
We barely fucking know each other, matched on Tinder or something have never met, and she's insisting over and over "This conversation is over".
Allright? Yeesh. Pretend you ended it if you'd like, just don't contact me ever again.
yummyluckycharms 6y ago
Ha - no kidding. My favourite texts are when the women write to you telling them that you owe them an explanation as to why it didnt work out or that I owe them closure. LMAO. Neither party owes the other anything
LawyerInTheMaking 6y ago
Toronto girls are a whole different level of energy drain lol. They have what I call the 589 complex. I commend y'all for even attempting to game them because for me, I'm out.
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wondering to what extent you could replace Toronto with insert huge city (NYC, London, LA, whatever)
Big cities completely wreck anything remotely human that was left over in fragile individuals (so, nearly all women)
aanarchist 6y ago
the funny thing is that's exactly what happened, you pursued, they rejected. the disconnect is that you moved on instead of going simp mode trying to buy milady's affection by being a circus clown. in her head you were supposed to feed her attention validation and resources first, THEN she rejects you calling you a creep and to leave her alone. you didn't play the role she assigned you, which was the role of beta slave, and that's why she felt rejected.
yummyluckycharms 6y ago
If they rejected me, why do they continue to contact me? Clearly, after the first date or so, they feel some degree of attraction which why they get so upset when I reject them. Its this lingering attraction that they have that gets warped by their hamster into the fuel source for their intense anger
aanarchist 6y ago
if you read the entire paragraph i explained why.
Docbear64 6y ago
My 6 year relationship with my highschool sweetheart ended when she told me how she had recently been deciding between me and another man and at the end of her deliberation she had chosen me . In the immediate hour after that I felt good about things , we'd had infidelity issues in the past , we had a great night together, and it looked like this meant good things for our future.
Then I really thought about it I had no clue we were in trouble, she never let me know how long her conversations and deliberations went on for , In fact I was supposed to feel good for winning a competition I didn't even know I was competing in and truth be told he probably didn't want anything to do with her ass.
Thankfully I had finally gotten balls and decided to end the relationship but just like you mention her unloyal flirtatious ways got spun into her experiencing an epiphany and a supposedly earnest appeal to our reawakened love and for a while I bought it .
aanarchist 6y ago
buying it for an hour and them dumping her is some alpha shit bro, some dudes get duped for years and years, their lives wasted on a degenerate woman.
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How immature she acted really demonstrates how little they mature through high school into adulthood. That's some childlike shit right there. I'm laughing my ass off at how dumb that whole thing sounds.
redaftrp 6y ago
They may mature faster but that's like saying you can accelerate from 0-60 MPH in 1 second, It might take me 3.5 seconds longer to hit 60 but your top speed is 60MPH. Congratulations, you've got a 15 second 1/4 mile.
littleblacktruck 6y ago
Never get involved with a taken woman. TRP says AWALT, but thirsty dudes wanna feed the beast rather than hold women accountable. Don't just avoid taken women... CALL THEM OUT ON IT. Do a bro you never met a favor. Let the woman know she's a whore and that her behavior is unacceptable.
aDrunkenWhaler 6y ago
I agree with the reasons and thought behind this, but realistically single women are single for a reason, and good looking women are almost never single. Not to mention women only break up when they have another option available, and are usually on a date the same day with the break up. You're basically shooting yourself in the foot if you only look for single women.
If you want a LTR, I understand, better to search deeper, but if you're looking to get your dick wet, I say you go and fuck whatever, just weigh in the risks.
littleblacktruck 6y ago
I'll say this once and let it sink in... If your SMV is so low that you can't score in the open market and need to resort to snaking taken women, START. THE. FUCK. OVER. Go to the sidebar. Read the material. Become the best version of you that you can be. Develop a standard for yourself. Stop hamstering like a woman.
Docbear64 6y ago
I recently decided I'm probably going to avoid taken girls but you have to remember not everybody takes " You're precious little angel ... .the woman you have been hoping to marry the past few months / years ..... / That chick who you are putting through college ... yeah she asked me if she could slurp on my cock last night " . There's lots of losers out there who rather fight you over their dishonest bitch then get rid of their dishonest bitch .
TRP is amoral but just because you do the " right thing" and help a complete stranger out doesn't mean he'll thank you for it or anything good will come out of it . I personally see no reason to stick my nose in a dishonest cunts life . Even if I do feel sorry for her dude for being with her .
MRPFuckMe1 6y ago
If you're not fucking a taken women, you're probably not fucking anyone. They ALL have a dude in some capacity.
vengefully_yours 6y ago
Keep on with that bro chode blue bullshit. Go ahead and think he deserves anything like you not fucking the tramp he is supporting. You have the wrong perspective.
He deserves to know she is fucking around on him. You don't have to tell him, leave rug burns on her back until he figures it out. She made no commitment to you, and she is going to fuck someone, you might as well get your dick wet.
There another side to this. Most guys who discover their precious girl has been gargling vengeful man juice at first think they're going to kick my ass. Then they meet me and go all meek and mild. Never fight another man over your bitch giving him the pussy. He doesn't owe you a fucking thing and is doing you a favor. It's a wake up call. Expect her to fuck around, she will, every fucking one of them will. That's the only favor he deserves, to know that cunt is giving the pussy to the entire trailer park.
I know two young guys who were killed by desperate betas when the girls lied to them, said she had broken up with her boyfriend, and one was shot in his sleep the other stabbed. Both those beta losers are doing life sentences for killing the new guy while their precious unicorn is fucking other guys. They won't be getting any pussy in there, but I'll bet they get plenty of dick.
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BlackJ1 6y ago
Alright now yall need to chill out now. To say nearly all women with exception of a very small percentage has cheated once is by the far the most absurd post I've seen on here.
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But he's got like 40 booty pics tho...
[deleted] 6y ago
Yeah, essentially saying that all women are cheaters, while simultaneously saying that unicorns exists sounds pretty bloody ridiculous.
And unless he's performed/can source thorough statistical studies on the topic, then hell yeah he's exaggerating.
aanarchist 6y ago
most of trp's male population took all this free knowledge given to them and pretty much committed to feeding the beast for the rest of their lives. slaves all of them.
[deleted] 6y ago
Yeh, exactly. If a whore cheats, you should use your liberation to mess with her, not get used by her lmao
aanarchist 6y ago
they're using trp to become better beta slaves in service of women, and take pride in it. it's some backwards warped shit.
[deleted] 6y ago
Don't worry, ppl like that are becoming a minority
Getting an easy hoe is nothing to be proud of
vengefully_yours 6y ago
As if it's something to be proud of to wait a year to get a sniff when I banged her within an hour of meeting the same girl.
Every girl is easy for the right man. They're all impossible or difficult for those who are not the right man. How difficult it is can be considered meaningless. I've had very high class girls naked and giving me head within a couple hours of meeting them. So fucking what. It's only a challenge if you're not worthy to her.
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Sure, but not every girl is equally easy. There is a hierarchy within women. A man of perfect frame will still find certain girls "easier" than others, even if they're all ultimately easy. Let's be realistic, Megan Fox is not as easy as some 3/10 off the street.
Hypergamy from a cheating ho isn't something a well functioning society wants to reward.
redaftrp 6y ago
IDK man, them toe thumbs drop her SMV 4 or 5 points easy...
awalt_cupcake 6y ago
I've been involved with a couple of taken women and the truth is that they're easier to pull because the only competition is their bf. Even when I don't successfully pull the interaction is already heavily polarized in my favor. There's always flirting and an up-beat vibe at the very beginning. Single girls are drier and less invested.
Frandaman760 6y ago
Yea but do you really want to do anything past sex with a chick that will so easily cheat?
I don't think I could resist giving her shit for it.
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hipstersdontlie 6y ago
Why does this have to imply that he wants anything beyond sex from her?
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sc1690 6y ago
"something in my gut was saying 'walk away'"
Good advice no matter what.
[deleted] 6y ago
Similar experience. I responded with
Do not recommend this approach unless you're looking to get your shit blown up all over social media
general_armchair 6y ago
Send a screencap of your side of the convo to beta bf. See how much control she has then.
awalt_cupcake 6y ago
I thought about it but any time I've ever tried to be reasonable with emotional men, it turns into a bad situation. He believes his little snowflake is special. No amount of evidence can change his mind. And let's say it would. He'd just want to take his anger out on me.
ceelow 6y ago
But the screen cap of the actual convo will, solidify your story. Even if he's delusional, you have solid evidence against such stupidity on the chick's part.
MagicGainbow 6y ago
Id do it because:
She just admitted she cheated to you, its now in her favour to bash/slander you in order for her to cover her own ass.
It leaves a digital trail/evidence.
[deleted] 6y ago
Just the exact king of woman the bible say to shun with all your strength.
If you look for trouble, record your conversations, and let her BF know. (she will perhaps lose an orbiter).
UnKnownSurviving 6y ago
Holy fuck. Lol are you serious? What a cunt. It's like, I already ended it, and you're commanding me, to end it? Whoa, this bitch has serious control issues. You, the guy, saved yourself the trouble. If you're not feeling it, and she crushed your fun, no need to continue.
I wished I had some man rule, before I had a relationship. The one I had was fun, because she was Japanese. But she was also a fucking headache, to figure out. Anyway, saved myself the trouble.
Say, you should find a girl with well-balance tolerance, if you know what I mean. These girls in this day and age, don't even know how to respond to a guy or take a joke. (Those in fatherless households, and lived with feminist single mother) In similar fashion, some guys are autistic and don't even know to talk to a girl, which is understandable.
newName543456 6y ago
Her fragile ego can't handle not being in control all the time.
The-Hardball-Player 6y ago
This doesn't make sense because you said she's flirting back and she showed the messages to her boyfriend?
If that's true... he is approaching levels of autism not previously thought possible.
basebool 6y ago
She probably deleted her flirting part
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empatheticapathetic 6y ago
She'd likely only show him what he needed to see.
At the same time the entire act of showing the boyfriend is a sort of a fitness test for him. She's saying "remind me where on the beta spectrum you lie again? You really aren't going to be suspicious that I was talking to a dude and suddenly decided to show you?".
Just like when a woman shit tests you to 'remind' herself how alpha you are, this was a beta shit test.
The-Hardball-Player 6y ago
a moment of silence for the boyfriend's manhood
LordASCII 6y ago
Can you show some of the texts? I want to know how the conversation went.
[deleted] 6y ago
Sue her Beta McCuckington in small claims for libel/slander/defamation and intentional infliction of emotional distress.