Young men are not going to whine about their predicament. They are not going to organize workshops or support groups. (Thank goodness.) Teenage boys are the one group of Americans who do not like to gather in circles and talk about grievances and misgivings. So what will they do? My guess is that vast numbers will just stop trying and withdraw. It would not be an organized strike—it would just happen. It is happening. —Christina Hoff Sommers
Why is MGTOW, TRP and other groups like this so irritating to feminist and women? We do not organize little meetings, we do not spend time trying to convince congress or our regional government to stop their misandric policies, we do not try to change anything about the outside world, yet feminist groups absolutely despise us and are threatened by us, they know no political action can ever challenge their grasp on their sugar daddy known as Big Government but what they cannot defend themselves against is political inaction by men.
Deep down every gender feminist knows that without men they would lose all their power, they didn't earn or fight for that power, men gave it to them if there are no men to enforce feminism than no one would even fucking bother to listen to some fat whale screaming into a speakerphone about how men keep 'checking her out'
Because men are opting out of marriage, dating, in general putting up with womens shit they are losing their power, men evolved physical strength and cunning ruthless intelligence to get what they wanted, women evolved on how to manipulate men on getting what they wanted (ever notice how a woman [and a child] will instantly stop crying as soon as she gets what she wants or if she notices that nobody gives a shit?)
Thus because men aren't playing the 'game' we can't lose... or win which brings me to TRP. By discussing ideas like this we propagate an environment where it is difficult for women to manipulate men, this results in them losing power and influence over men. They can't ban this us because there are RedPill truths all over the internet and as men we are logical creatures thus we are naturally attracted to RedPill truths like a moth to a flame, if the feminist and SJW were to shut down this subreddit we would simply immigrate to some other place like the misc section of bodybuildingforums and before you know it we would be rebuilding r/TheRedPill
gideonrakthor 9y ago
I used to be a miscer, and discovered rp, and I have to say I wouldn't want to delve back into that cesspool.
Genghis-Brah 9y ago
Yeah those race threads and height threads is pretty much the misc.
CrimsonDeep 9y ago
One of the greatest things that I have learned is finding solitude and allowing yourself to gather and organize your thoughts. its a productive thing I believe when you. question everything that you've ever been taught weighing it up against Red pill truths and modern feminism.
Those that truly want the truth will definitely find it . And they that want a idealistic sheltered lifestyle refuting are only going to find themselves in the long run of things completely burnt out wondering why they have had so many failed career opportunities to many failed relationships with the people they care about.society without the red pill ends up just looking like a Rome
AntixD 9y ago
this subreddit is a fucking safe house of information for me
Johnny10toes 9y ago
You have to want to pull back the curtain and see the wizard. That is a big difference.
BetterToBeFeared 9y ago
You are def on to something here. I have a lot of friends who are smart, Ivy League liberals. They condemned some of my MGTOW practices, not because they disagreed with my reasons, but with my method.
"If it's really a problem, why don't you go through the proper channels."
"The only ethical way to protest something is to work to get your government to change it."
"If you debate in public you can help change it for everyone."
No, I am not putting my time and energy into playing their game. I am going to do things my way and if you or others agree they are free to withdraw at an individual level as well.
clone9786 9y ago
They're basically the exact opposites of Patrick Henry.
Goupidan 9y ago
My taichi instructor once said: The strong position is no position.
billthane 9y ago
Despite the mind-numbing annoyance of the homepage flickering into invisibility more often than not, I still keep coming back here thanks to all the great resources and intelligent, open-minded people. It's very much like the Matrix - you can't go back.
leftajar 9y ago
When it comes to female power, there isn't any. There is only what we men will tolerate.
Feminism is hilarious and evil, but it only works if we buy it.
I love /r/mensrights, but on some level, to even engage in dialogue about equality legitimizes feminism. Our problem, as men, is we let the fucking five-year-old run the house. And, surprise surprise, the kid is using its power to vote for more candy and progressively later bedtimes.
Feminism is afraid of us because it's a game, and on an individual level, each of us can choose not to play.
oStaRLy 9y ago
I sometimes envision myself being the leader of a group or "army" that is taught how to become powerful as individuals in society. We need to sit down and think because as MEN we can be unstoppable! WE FIGHT TILL THE END!
ubrayj02 9y ago
This is a nitpicking point I feel compelled to bring up:
"as men we are logical creatures" --> I understand why you feel that way, but you've not spent enough time working with and amongst people (I think) to make such a statement. Men, and women, are NOT logical creatures. We are usually "not logical" in different ways, but to pretend that people are logical is stupid. Try and move people to action in any domain (work, war, politics, sport, parties, etc.) and you will soon find that we are not "logical creatures" at all.
ModeratorAlt 9y ago
indeed.
Soon you learn that power is the currency of the realm.
I've wasted far too many nights convincing fools of their folly, and plenty of nights convincing their women.
RedBigMan 9y ago
http://puerarchy.com/ is the designated refugee location if reddit ever shuts down this sub. Just sayin.
Also men (just like women do) will act in their own best interests whenever possible. As the idea of marriage and LTR become less and less appealing because the marriage contract gets increasingly onesided men are going to opt out of the 'american dream' of a wife, house with a white picket fence and 2.5 kids.
The 'american dream' was directed at men but bought hook, line and sinker by women. When a man has no woman demanding the american dream be given to her then he can make due on much less.
DoxasticPoo 9y ago
Maybe it's time for a new American Dream. Something even more traditional than its current incarnation.... Maybe it's time we go back to before the '50s were even around. When men explored, built, created, invented, all on their terms.
I dream of being a man, who blazes a trail in his direction by being accountable for all that he is and all that he earns and all that he desires out of life, and by knowing there is no step forward unless he takes it.
RedBigMan 9y ago
The closest you have to something like that would be moving to Alaska. Which is in and of itself not a bad idea if you can handle the survival skills it takes to live out in the boonies with little contact from the outside world.
DoxasticPoo 9y ago
Well, that's the question. Can something like this be found in today's world?
Years ago a friend was complaining about the city: too many people, so fast pace, never time for himself.... He wanted to just move to a cabin in the woods. But you don't need to move to a cabin to find what he was looking for.
So how do we find this without moving to Alaska?
vengefully_yours 9y ago
Northern border of the USA. Its where I am doing exactly that.
emptyform 9y ago
The quests you're looking for are not as physical in nature as they were before, but the frontiers of social, artistic, spiritual, and technological spheres.
needathrowawayplease 9y ago
I think the new dream is living frugally in a bachelor apartment with football, beer, and video games, never getting married, hanging out with your buddies 5 nights a week, saving thousands by skipping getting a wife and having children, and then retiring early.
dropit_reborn 9y ago
In terms of frontiers...
what about the corporate world?
I know, I know, it rewards bullshittery and betrayal plays. Justice has no place there.
But the same could be said about nature. And the fact that the company doesn't have your best interests at heart also means that it doesn't care how you get to the top.
Elodrian 9y ago
You might aim higher than football, beer, and video games, but other than that, this is the paradigm.
RedBigMan 9y ago
If it's too many people the only way to get out of there is to move out of the core city to some place like an hour outside of major population centers.
I really do not think that humans were meant for city life at least in the long term.
markasstrick123 9y ago
City life is a great place for sub 40 people. Every day is an adrenaline rush in Chicago!
RedBigMan 9y ago
Want an adrenaline rush... go use a bear's nutsack as a punching bag. /s
vengefully_yours 9y ago
I'm doing it in the lower 48. Near lake superior, my own woods, building my home, and nobody can take it from me. I'm 13 miles from the nearest town, just far enough to be remote, but not too remote.
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RedBigMan 9y ago
Yeah... if you're 30min-1hr away from a major population center and a 5-10 minute drive from civilization that seems to be a very good compromise between getting out of the city and out in the boonies.
vengefully_yours 9y ago
26,000 people isn't a major population center, and I like it that way. Even the 'city' is remote here.
markasstrick123 9y ago
I would be so depressed... but I've lived in Chicago my whole life.
vengefully_yours 9y ago
I've lived in cities, overseas and in the US, and the whole time I was there I never felt right. Always a depression hanging over me, a very mild one, but enough for me to realize I wasn't 'happy' where I was. Now that I am retired, living in the woods, building my home, not answering to anyone, waking up to trees all around me I have a feeling I've never had before. There is intense pressure to get shelter built before the snow hits, and I might not make it in time, but I'm better now than ever before.
I grew up on a farm, so it might be different for me, but I've seen it in others, yet they won't leave the city.
markasstrick123 9y ago
For me it's a fear of being alone. I don't like people but I like the chaos of being surrounded by them. More events happen in the day, hot girls to flirt with left and right. Everyone has different needs, though.
vengefully_yours 9y ago
I am finding I prefer to be alone now, nobody to bother me. I can get laid or have company any time I wish, lately I simply haven't wanted either.
F9R 9y ago
Feminists need organization because women are herd animals; alone they are weak, and together they are bitchy enough to convince men to behave differently. Therefore when men decide not to put up with that shit anymore, their entire strategy falls apart.
What are they going to do now? Out-compete men at something? This has never happened. So keep it up men, because the only power these femwhales have is your giving-a-fuck.
Jimmy_Big_Nuts 9y ago
Well said. TRP is just like TRP from the matrix. You see the truth, you block every punch. Women say 'oh shit, this guy is neo'. Doesn't need a rally to make bitches readable and controllable. Shame about all the misandric legislation in family courts and stuff though...
aa223 9y ago
I think we are more organized than you think. We have the resources to come back when we are down and out as a group. We can organize and we support each other without being too judgemental. Not to mention this group is full of people who either can lead or can take charge when one falls. So we have the organizational power to maintain ourselves.
RedPillSafe 9y ago
The Blue Pill Matrix is supported by men who are not yet unplugged.
MyDarkSideOfTheMoon 9y ago
Unless you support a well regulated socialist economy than your downvoted to hell because apparently this is a conservative as fuck sub reddit. But I ate the red pill, so I'll look the other way. I just wish we could leave politics out of this.
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Stay strong and prevail! It is very important for the fate of the whole world for TRP to remain, because well... otherwise we're fucked.
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TRP may not be organized but it is still the best community that I've experienced
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The environment here is amazing. I can hear myself think and don't have to experience the irritationality of self righteous posters. No politically correct bullshit here, just the truth.
markasstrick123 9y ago
This!
My whole life I've felt so helpless and knew that everyone and everything was so full of shit. I was always told how wrong I was for my RP beliefs and I actually thought there was something wrong with me, or that I may be insane.
I was right the whole time. Now I have a place to vent and have logical, emotion- free discussions. Even though this is just a forum, I feel saved by it. If it wasn't for this subreddit, I probably would have become the next Elliot Rodgers. God, I wish that guy stumbled across this sub, he would have gotten saved.
I'm not a religious man, but if TRP was a religion, i'd bow down to it daily. Keep your Jesus and your Allah, I'll take this sub, thanks.
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I've posted questions here and the commentators have ripped me to shreds. Exactly what I needed to hear and I'm always grateful.
JP_Whoregan 9y ago
It's not even being "ripped to shreds", really. We simply speak in a direct and honest tone, a tone that doesn't pay homage to feminine sensibilities. We talk here the way men used to talk in the locker room back when I was in high school, i.e. "cut the bullshit."
Newbies only "think" the language is harsh because they've been raised by society to be overly polite, politically correct, and to not hurt anyone's (especially women's) "feeeeeewings".
AlchemyPhoenix 9y ago
Ha... Yeah, the side effect is that my language has gotten more concerted and direct after communicating here. It's cost me a lot of facebook friends. I really don't give a shit, though. It's not worth having to constantly walk on eggshells and disclaim every fucking thing I say with an asterisk and a double dagger in order to keep a bunch of pussies in the periphery of my life.
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This so much. They post without reading the sidebar and get in their feelings. It's annoying as shit.
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I'm not complaing it was just eye opening in a good way. After I've posted some questions and guys are like "stop being a bitch" "you sound like a woman" "man up and stop being a pussy" etc.
It's harsh but it is what needed to said and I appreciate it
JP_Whoregan 9y ago
Think how many men would be better off if we heard this shit from a much younger age. Most men start hearing "stop being a bitch" "quit fucking whining" and "don't be a pussy" from our fathers.
The problem is, 40% of children born to mothers under 30 years old today are born to single mothers, so that means at least half of all kids grow up supplicating their mothers and never receive any fatherly guidance. And even kids who DO have both parents, the likelihood is that the father is a feminized pussy worshipping at the feet of his
masterwife, who would never allow him to treat his boys like boys.Johnny10toes 9y ago
You can't blame it entirely on single mothers. I know a guy who is TRP as shit that came from a single mom. I'm pretty sure he is a Dark Triad though.
NoSolaceWasPromised 9y ago
Single mothers definitely can and will spell doom for a boy's masculinity. They feel the need to coddle their kids and supplicate them. They stoop to a child's level often and don't know how to lay down law or order, only how to say it need to be done.
This is all because they get lonely or fear loneliness. Probably has something to do with what caused to end up as single mothers in the first place. Whether that be getting left for dead, ostracizing their BBs or , possibly now, being the type of nut to artificially inseminate with no SO. Loneliness drove their decision to have and keep a child.
It's like they know that's the bond they will receive the most emotional and stable satisfaction from. That's probably part of why they want to clutch it tightly to themselves. Many mother's decisions to give shit for visitation rights if any at all is partly a "mine mine mine" move.
And it drives the special snowflake treatment. Of course they want their kids to be seen as the shit, that's all that's really left in their eyes. And the way they deal with fuckwittery from their kids is the natural response we'd expect from a woman: defend it to death and shroud it in deception, and when you get too frustrated, yell really loud and give it vindictive, petty little punishments that don't actually address shit, they just make her feel like somethings being done.
I see too many fucking kids walking around like entitled little cunts because mommy taught them that the world owes them everything, and/or too many depressed fuckers because mommy taught them that all they need to be happy is be the selves she molded em to be and nothing else. So when it turns out having zero discipline, being the best at Halo, and watching shit TV all day isn't very socially appealing, they don't know what to even do with themselves at such a young age. Their fat from getting fries whenever they want, socially inept from being "kept off the streets" all the time, and think buying Susy Everypussy a rose, even though you've never even talked to her, will "show her you care and are different."
All this adds up to a defunct child. The common alias of the children who grow up to be the men who get fucked over by it and are lucky enough, by the grace of their gods, fate, or chance, to find a place like this that rips the curtain from behind mom's stage of desperation and laziness. And you know what? It's not even her fault really. It's just the way shit is set up right now.
Raise your kids.
markasstrick123 9y ago
I got lucky. My mother was a typical single mother, all fucked in the head. Luckily, she met my step father when I was like 3. He was such a good father figure that I never questioned his position. He was 'dad' not 'name.'
He was strict, disciplined me, played with me (he even played NASCAR with me for 20 minutes after work and miscellaneous tasks from 4:00am to 9:00), put the fear into me without ever hitting me, got me into sports, instilled camaraderie watching hockey games together... he was a traditional masculine guy and I seriously got lucky getting a step father that wasn't a pushover or abusive alcoholic.
But this was the mid 90's. Men have changed drastically since.
the99percent1 9y ago
As to which I say, take up sports. Boys have a really good way of telling you how crap you are and making you feel like shit when you are the last to be picked.
But this sort of 'harsh' lessons only builds your character. Coincidently, it teaches you one of the most important lessons in life. Either you improve or quit.
dongpal 9y ago
yeah... being raised by single mother I'm used to complain about anything and do typical things like raising my voice in a argument to get right etc
hard to unlearn the habbit
fyseaking 9y ago
Surprising to hear considering you give some great answers on questions yourself. Though I have to admit sometimes you can forget to take your own advice. I hate it when this happens but practice makes perfect I suppose...
skoobled 9y ago
There's some shit, but I'd say as little as 5%. Plus it's very supportive and a notable absence of posing and boasting
F9R 9y ago
Yeah, some shit comes here through those who are still in the anger phase. This is why newbies should stfu and learn.
anonlymouse 9y ago
They need some place to vent though. As long as they're not overdoing it, and it's clear it's venting then it's OK.
F9R 9y ago
Yeah, fair enough. This sub needs some kind of automatic flair on users who have only been here for less than a month or so.
anonlymouse 9y ago
Wouldn't really help. Someone could sub, ignore it for a monthg and come back later. I generally do that with any sub that looks remotely interesting - I'll just sub and come back to it later (or not) if I want to look into it more because a lot of subs don't let new users post.
RedPill4LYF 9y ago
You make a good point, but let's assume that in the majority of cases, if a guy subs here, it's probably cause he's fascinated with this place and wants to absorb as much as he can, as is the case with a lot of newbies still in the anger phase. I agree with F9R, it could be beneficial to be aware of who has recently taken the pill for multiple reasons.
ValarMorghulis90 9y ago
I'm a newbie, and I'm wondering...how long does the anger phase typically last? I feel like I'm definitely in it, but it's calming somewhat. I am super grateful for this sub though. I've done nothing but improve my life since I came here.
Hatorader 9y ago
It lasts forever but takes different shapes.
F9R 9y ago
For me (and I think most guys here) it was a solid couple months. More or less, depending on your specific circumstances. I remember being in the anger phase and feeling like I would never get out of the anger phase. There was this sense of despair, like I would be trapped as an angry and bitter guy for the rest of my life now that I saw how the world works.
Don't worry though, it really doesn't last. Sooner or later the anger will fade out and you'll be left with knowledge and a better, more powerful outlook on life.
Overkillengine 9y ago
Thought exercise you might want to try: the moment you start feeling the anger come on, stop, and ask yourself if having a ragefit going to get you any closer to your goal(s).
Even if you fail to suppress/control it after that moment, getting in the habit of trying to pause and evaluate more often can save your ass some grief a blind reflex reaction might cause.
ValarMorghulis90 9y ago
Thanks for the wisdom. At the moment I've just been focusing on school and my productive hobbies mostly. Inner self as well (Mainly lots of practicing TRP mentalities like holding frame and body language, although I feel like I can always improve. It's hard to change over night). Trying to finish my diet (128 lbs out of 170). The anger kind of drives me for some reason, but at the same time I straight up ignore women. Odd thing is, I find them glancing my way a lot, but I can't really figure out why. I'll usually catch them out of the corner of my eye and turn, but they look away. Any idea what that means?
F9R 9y ago
Good on you for losing that much weight! You're on the right track. Keep it up, and let anger fuel you whenever possible; anger is motivation that you're already paying for so you might as well use it.
Sounds like women are starting to check you out.
ValarMorghulis90 9y ago
It's a foreign feeling friend lol. Used to be a complete fat shit betamax. Probably in the purple right now, but working on that red. Thanks for the time and complement. Take care.
IVIaskerade 9y ago
Yeah, but they won't, and that's fine too. We have to remember that we've become jaded with time, and not to judge the newer members too harshly - understanding the principles, for example, often takes more than a week and several re-readings of the sidebar, and some of the more subtle bits won't surface for months, and during this time they will make mistakes, but as long as we recognise that, we're all going to make it.
HumanSockPuppet 9y ago
Each Red Pill Man is a guerrilla fighter.
We don't have a base of operations, or a collective war chest, or any semblance of an organized effort against the first-world socialist feminist dystopia which oppresses us day in and day out.
Instead, what we have is a perspective. A code that is deeply personal and vehemently felt, with an accompanying expectation of how we wish to be treated. A religion of one. Each man is his own temple, and worships himself for the betterment of his circumstances and for his life's happiness.
We are difficult to fight against, because Red Pill Men are mixed in among the Blue Pill civilians. We are indistinguishable from civilians, until we are poised to attack.
As such, a targeted attack against us is impossible. Feminism must resort to carpet bombing in order to try and take ground from us. And with each vulgar attack that feminists make against men, more and more injured Blue Pill bystanders abandon the feminist dystopia and become guerrillas of their own cause.
We cannot be killed.
Rugnardl 9y ago
I want to memorize this and say it like a prayer every morning and night. Powerful shit.
markasstrick123 9y ago
To view us as special operators and society as conventional military... interesting analogy.
Dopamine37 9y ago
This is an amazing analogy, did you write this yourself?
HumanSockPuppet 9y ago
Yes, it just kind of occurred to me in that moment so I began typing as I thought of it. It's still unrefined at this point, so I plan on thinking about it some more.
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lordofthejelly 9y ago
In other words, our "France" is going to end up being a Hilary Clinton type of woman who is smart enough to shut up about her MR stances until she gets into high office. Elizabeth Warren I could see doing that, Hilary Clinton not so much.
topspeedj 9y ago
Celebrities who espouse RP-like sentiments in public, perhaps.
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dicklord_airplane 9y ago
true, it's all grassroots. millions of men all over the can't help but smell the ubiquitous shit. nobody's here because they fell for widespread propaganda like most feminists came to be. you do not need to organize committees, rally for funding, and advertise and lobby en masse to spread the truth, because the truth is self-evident to rational minds.
on a side note, i couldn't be happier because being a bachelor has never been so good throughout all of history. a great burden of worry was lifted off my shoulders when i entered the 'manosphere' years ago. the game's rigged, so fuck it. we don't owe society anything.
nuc22 9y ago
"If we'd be organise, we'd be dangerous"
desbest 9y ago
MTGOW is hated by women, as the less men opting out of sex and relationships, the lower the price of sex, and the less power women will have, sexually, socially and more. The fact that MTGOW rids women of creepy and undesirable guys is nothing in comparison to the loss of power women will have if that movement grows.
The reason why the price of sex is so high and is the highest priced service per hour on the planet, is because men have made it a necessity, just like food and housing. Jewellery, holidays and Ferraris are expensive, but if people don't have one of those, nobody is going to be posting on a millionaire gangster rapper's Instagram all thirsty with "I want to climb inside of you" or "woww that car's so pretty :) what's your bbm" and giving it a million likes, but somehow when men don't get sex, they feel the need to behave like they're a homeless person starving with a wet sleeping bag, begging for money (sex) off any person they can find. This treating sex as a necessity needs to stop as it's causing a power imbalance, and women don't want MTGOW to make it stop as they love the power and sadistic pleasure of using men for drinks looking all sexy and giving nothing back.
You would think that women would love MTGOW as all the creepy undesirable guys are out of their vicinity, but no, they need MTGOW to die so the price of sex is kept extremely high.
Whereas MRA asks for structural, social and legal changes to help men, which is not likely considering the law, Barack Obama and society favours women, The Red Pill is about understanding society(primarily women) and it's about self improvement, but most importantly, it reveals the true nature of women? What woman would want you to know that? Women understand women and they hate each other. Red pill truths change the way people think about women, and what woman would want you to know that?
Doctor_Mayhem 9y ago
One thing I noticed, is that even if MGTOW truly is nothing but a bunch of bitter permavirgins; feminists, SJWs, and the rest of our cultural marxist overlords will still lose. Why? Because when a man decides that he is going to drop out of the dating game for good, he will most likely be taking his resources, potential earnings (which means no taxes to prop these scumfucker parasites up), and consumer spending with him, thus starving the beast of one more drone.
Hell, one guy you should look up, Ray Gordon, and his book, "Game Over".
Hell, as for teaching men to understand women... can't say it's all rosy, though. I always say, "You can love women or you can understand them, but never both." Understanding women has made me quite misogynistic. As in, I view women how women view women.
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The misc isn't as redpill as you'd think. Just saying.
Chaohinon 9y ago
Decentralized warfare. Leaderless resistance. Let them show their hand, and do all the legwork plowing through resources trying to swat at some bogeyman.
Straight out of the al qaeda playbook.
Edit: Actually, come to think about it, the macro scale of this isn't any different from personal interactions with women and wannabe alphas. Don't freak out, don't get trapped in a debate. Just shrug, say, "meh, I'm gonna go hit the gym", and just let them seethe and freak out on their own time.
Overkillengine 9y ago
It's also a method of civil disobedience; just not in the public rally sort of way that gives them a convenient target.
You just ghost out and stop contributing and even showing up, leaving them nothing to abuse. Let the naive idealists catch the bullets.
Venividivixii 9y ago
It really is the smartest way to resist an overwhelming force.
whitey_male 9y ago
+1. I was thinking Vietnam, same thing.
These fucktards are going to plow through a heck of a lot of resources. Government debts around the world are huge as it is, but probably not at their peak.
vengefully_yours 9y ago
Interesting historical note. Ho Chi Minh studied the Revolutionary War as fought by the USA. He used the tactics, methods, and strategies used in the 1170s and 1780s by the colonies, not so much open warfare, but hit and run war of attrition.
The irony is palpable, and LBJ, Nixon, etc did the same stupid shit as the British, and worse.
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SgtBrutalisk 9y ago
Yeah, that's why the subscriber count keeps rising, right?
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dropit_reborn 9y ago
When time is on your side but all action backfires, you'd be surprised how productive doing nothing can be.
SgtBrutalisk 9y ago
Why are you such a hater? Can't you find anything more fulfilling than bashing on things you apparently don't need?
ChaddeusThunderloins 9y ago
TRP is a godsend, I wish I had discovered it 10 years earlier. It's already helped me out so much in my new relationship. It's one of the only safe spaces left on the web and even then the bluepill and other SJW's can't leave it alone.
markasstrick123 9y ago
I never understood why people keep shitting on this sub. To disagree with what we preach is to disagree with social experiments, science, and biology. It's insane.
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niasen 9y ago
Finally, a place for a man to be a man, and discuss things freely.
I recently saw a movie on netflix about how men are confused as to what their role in society these days is supposed to be. That is largely due to the fact that men are being emasculated ( socially speaking ) and not sure which path they should take. Its sad to see a newer generation embracing the fate of what others have dictated to them, one of which is feminists.
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Iupvoteforknowledge 9y ago
Another reason this sub is hated. It's the last Boys Club. Women have invaded every other space but this one. It's amazing.
anonlymouse 9y ago
And we don't have to explicitly ban them. We just speak unfiltered and they can't stand it since they're so used to being coddled.
vengefully_yours 9y ago
Also they know we are right about what traits, actions, and attitudes they are attracted to, and they don't want us to be right. Coming here and reading gives them cognitive dissonance, it goes against the echo chamber they have grown up in that tells everyone women are wonderful Disney princess like bundles of joy that can do no wrong.
They claim we are misogynistic and hate women when we point out the human shortcomings and the nature of women, such as hypergamous behavior, but really they are judging themselves and their own behavior. They deem it to be actions and behavior of 'bad people' whereas we observe it, talk about it, and accept it as how they naturally behave and act.
The hatred is for themselves, but they can't stand the guilt, so they project it on easy targets. The fastest way to know what a woman is doing wrong, or feels guilty about, is to listen to her accuse you of shit you aren't doing, and especially shit you can't do.
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vengefully_yours 9y ago
If they don't know, or they simply won't accept it, there's nothing you can do. Religious people hate r/atheism, feminists and deluded white knights hate trp, doesn't matter if we are right, we go against their dogma and thus we are wrong no matter what.
smokingmonkey420 9y ago
I love TRP. If I could marry it I would.
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Further to this: Feminists do not reproduce. Fertility rates are falling dramatically everywhere that "education" ie, Feminism, takes hold. Give it 3 generations and there won't be a majority of Liberal, Western women to perpetuate theirs myths further.
The groups that reproduce well are traditional Christians, Muslims, and everyone else in the 3rd world who haven't been indoctrinated by the feminist script.
Feminism is a trend that cannot sustain itself mathematically.
Elodrian 9y ago
So the options on offer are bankrupt femenist commune or resurgent religious dark age? There's got to be a third path here. The US was founded on secular enlightenment principles and the rules as constituted do lay out an ideal society (minus the slavery). That's the society we need to get back to, one where reason is enshrined as a high virtue.
Jimmy_Big_Nuts 9y ago
Saw an article in the guardian about that - how feminism makes bitchified men less attractive to women, makes them focus on career, put off birth and ride the CC, which means feminists don't reproduce, which is why Muslims and other rightwing religious groups will grow while those who accepted feminism and took it to heart will dwindle. Of course then a new generation of women will have something real to fight (burkas and shit). Unless people get wise to this things could turn out not great for western humanity. Women need to get knocked up while their eggs are still good. The norm should be for women to be mothers in their early 20's and take degrees on the side when they are grannies. The way we currently do it wastes their good fertility years - and then no one is there to look after them in retirement so it costs a fortune in pensions.
dropit_reborn 9y ago
http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2014/01/03/more-ominous-than-a-strike/
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Rather than thinking men need or want to withdraw, or opt out. I believe men fundamentally just want to understand.
Isaiah4verse1 9y ago
Awesome post. Explains why they are now attempting to catch flies with honey right now. They way to win this game is not to play at all.
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When facing an enemy that can turn the world against you simply by knowing who you are and where you are, guerilla warfare is the only option.
Frozen_Tundra 9y ago
Truth. Sadly there will always be men who will do whatever they can to get female attention even if they get screwed over multiple times.
I know one guy who has been orbiting a female friend of my wife's for 10 YEARS, and he still hasn't figured it out. I want to give him a smack in the head and send him here and to the rest of the manosphere but I know it is a lost cause.
anonlymouse 9y ago
Fortunately there's a system in place that puts men like this in jail, so they're de-facto on strike.
TurboRaptor 9y ago
Ya, Like yesterday,... I posted without Flair... cuz Im "ruthlessly intelligent" I'm such a rebel.
Dev_on 9y ago
If you make it adversarial, it will be. Just like in anything else, the only winning move is not to play..
Stop playing, just look at you man
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I don't think "stop playing" is the best game plan. If you find a women that genuinely respects and loves you, by all means, play.
Dev_on 9y ago
I mean play as in play the same game, and treating it as one.
I like to think of it as personal improvement, social adeptness, and pragmatism... Not so much a game.
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Dev_on 9y ago
whatever helps you sleep at night
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Dev_on 9y ago
yeah, thats how we created technology. we wouldn't be using the internet now if we didn't make it safe enough to create
Menadian 9y ago
If we do not have any meetings, then there is no meetings they can destroy... and thereby nothing on which they can muster their strength and keep up their delusion
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even if you opt in and you understand TRP they are being threatened its a sleeping giant situation. its also a temporary momentum, so better make the most of it while it runs its course. what we do know is that womens interests whatever they will be called, if humanity will even mean anything by that time will at last be justified
IVIaskerade 9y ago
You know why I like TRP? There will always be someone with a different opinion to me, and that means that every thread I read gives me the opportunity to see how other men process information, as well as the conclusions they reach. I'm interested in the why of people, far more than the what, so meeting people who think differently but are willing to engage in rational discourse about it is one of the greatest pleasures in my life.
RedSuppossitory 9y ago
Divided we stand, together we rise.
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