Hello Red Pill! Just came across this and thought of sharing it here. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/marriage-life-partnerships/infidelity/519465-what-have-i-done
Summary: Basically, happily married women with kids cheats on her husband and regrets it. Husband looks like an alpha from her description and still that didn't make him immune to cheating. Grass looks always greener on the other side. AWALT.
Some parts from the story: *- Iknow I don’t deserve a second chance but all I can think of is that I foolishlytraded in my lion for a chance to run with hyenas.
- Now I see that I had thereal tough guy/bad boy already and betrayed him with a pitiful pretender.
- My husband stoodstaring me in the eye with the most disappointment I could ever imagine insomeone, it absolutely broke my heart. My husband is who he is and to mydisbelief AP and his friend did not hurt him much but rather after a fewminutes struggle AP and his friend both lay on the ground bleeding andbattered. I could hear AP whimpering and asking my husband to stop but he stoodover him hitting him again and again.*
Conclusion: Lift like it's your life depends on it (it actually does here). Be willing to walk away. AWALT.
p.s. First time posting here but thought the story was too good not to be shared. Hope i got the formatting right. EDIT: I would like to know the mods opinions on this as it's something i have never seen before. This woman gets the whole package (badass alpha + commitment + financial security + SAHM) and it's still not enough. Btw i checked and the story seems real. Bitch and her therapist are both hamstering hard on why she behaved like that. Can AWALT go to these extremes? Or maybe the husband isn't that alpha? I mean he did fuck up the vetting process by choosing her.
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Wife:I was ready to not defend myself here because I know what I did is really low and I deserve the worst. I do want to clear up a few things though. I had a typo in my original story that I was going out a few times a week with friends. I meant few times a month. The man that called my husband is a friend of his and I hold no resentment towards him for what he did. I have had and will have no contact with AP ever again. He is less than nothing to me. Yes I get that AP played me and I suppose I was just another notch in his bed post but I dont think its fair to say I was on my way to a threesome with them. (yeah right) I have been served divorce papers and have a lawyer. He says the initial information my husbands lawyer has sent looks very fair. Even in all of this I can't fault the way he is treating me.... It makes me so sad. I didnt do anything to stop them attacking him because I was shocked and it happened so quickly. I told him to stop because it looked like he was killing AP and I wanted him to not kill him. Not for APs sake for m husbands.
ecosci 8y ago
Listen,husband=beta bux, boyfriend=sucker there is no such thing as alpha husband or ltr now you can be an alpha to someone else outside of your marriage she will always desire what she cant have.
__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
Sorry, I'm not listening to garbage. You might want to work on readable sentences too.
Andgelyo 8y ago
Her dumb ass should learn to space between letters when typing
Lsegundo 8y ago
fucking awesome share OP. So many TRP truths from the cheating wife.
If you're wife is going out with the girls drinking your marriage is headed for trouble.
If you are stupid enough to even get into a marriage, I was, your life is probably heading for trouble.
Pro tip: The husband is a boss for moving out in a week and filing for divorce within a month. He is denying her any opportunity to discuss it. She is a sloot and there is nothing to discuss. She doesn't deserve the chance to hamster spin it or relieve her conscience by discussing it. NEXT.
The sloots lawyer is going to spin moving out as "abandoning the family home" It sounds like the two douchebags started the fight and the guy had no choice but to defend himself. The lawyer will try to paint him as violent and out of control. I am not sure what the best legal strategy is to try and get the house and fair custody.
__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
According to her, he didn't have legal trouble over the fight or the divorce. Sounded like his divorce settlement offer was approved by her lawyer. And although there was a legal issue due to the brawl, it sounds like resulted in nothing too.
Lsegundo 8y ago
I should have said "could". Thankfully things seemed to turn out good for this guy. It seems he dodged most of the problems. The risk was definitely there though.
__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
Yea, you can never rule out an unreasonable spouse in a legal proceeding like divorce. The way I read it the settlement he proposed was completely reasonable, and I think the whore regretted her actions and wanted reconciliation enough to have not put up much of a fight. And there would have been ways to counter the 'violent' argument. Also, keep in mind that he moved her out and she went, and I don't think it was under a legal separation that declared that outcome (it might have been, but neither he nor she ever says that was the case).
turok281 8y ago
Even better. HE kicked her out. Boom... Proper lad right there.
Lsegundo 8y ago
I read many of the comments from the original thread. The absolute truth no one bothered to tell her is that her perfect alpha ex-husband:
possibility of a second chance is EXTREMELY low.
and if he just wants to have some fun he is going to have more women that will gladly accept casual sex than he has time to fuck
BobbyPeru 8y ago
If my wife even kissed another dude, it would be over immediately. I don't get guys who stay with chicks that cheat on them.
This dude played it well
turok281 8y ago
Same. The violence was unavoidable. Self defense.
TonyZ554 8y ago
She doesn't regret doing it, she regrets getting caught. In her mind, her only mistake was not being able to hide it better.
swift_phoenix 8y ago
If you read through and the comments, its classic trickle truth. Nearly all sentences begin with I am or some kind self pronoun, and the icing is all of the wants. You cannot make this shit up. What is best about it, is that it is probably true from the style of writing. The OP writer in the post does not deliver a concise argument and belabors points. Funny shit. Bitch fucked up, bitch got her life fuck, and bitch thinks she can unfuck her by being sorry, but really kicker is she got into this position by fucking.
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__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
What I find particularly ridiculous was this line of reasoning:
Really? She states that as if getting an unsolicited (she implies it's unsolicited) phone number is a straight line to texting then infidelity... Of course! We all know that! DUH!
trippymofoAF 8y ago
I was thinking the same thing. Before you do anything usually you might line up how doing X activity might affect stuff that it's connected to, this woman didn't even stop for a second to think what she has, what she might lose, what she is doing and the damage that it will do. She just hops on and disregards everything because it means nothing to her. I've been with a few girls where the night I met them they were acting all cute and giggly and DTF, and the next day I see her adding me on social media and seeing she has a BF for a few years, and they had no mention of their BF's the night before.
feminists_are_dumb 8y ago
Women are NEVER moral agents. Just listen to them talk to each other. "And then he kissed me", etc. No, you kissed each other, otherwise that's sexual assault. You will die of old age waiting for a woman to own up to her own choices in life.
Mecha75 8y ago
Its one of the best examples of hypergamy if i ever saw one.
grubek 8y ago
Not necessarily pure hypergamy, as trp defines it. It was probably just wanting genetic variability, but I do not thing she would have dropped her husband for the young guy.
In nature you see females that are part of the group dominated by an alpha, go and cheat on the side with another male that stands no chance against the alpha. This is not a movement to try to trade up for a better alpha, which would be hypergamy, but simply wanting genetic diversity to try to have more genetically diverse offspring to give her genes better chance, which is not exactly the same as hypergamy.
feminists_are_dumb 8y ago
I believe her when she says it was boredom. Most people aren't in tune with their emotions enough to deal with something like that over a long period of time, and they misdiagnose the source and therefore the solution. Women are especially prone to this, given the primacy they give their emotional states.
I don't blame this guy for anything, as she is an adult and needs to own up to her shitty decisions. But he probably could have avoided this by applying TRP roles to his life. Clearly not enough dread in that relationship. She didn't feel like she had to earn anything, and so she got bored.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
How is it even hypergamy at this point.
TonyZ554 8y ago
She had a grass is greener mentality, she thought new guy was an upgrade because he was more exciting, apparently having a beautiful family and life is too mundane for her.
p3n1x 8y ago
Brutal truth .. statistically, it is too mundane for the majority of people. Just because the Husband provided does not mean their life was beautiful.
That is you injecting a bit of "disney" into the situation.
DoesNotMatterAnymore 8y ago
I don't think, she thought that he was an update, this is more important:
I've read some study or bro-science on this. You have a group of women, who are all married. But if one of them get divorced, and start talking about how bad her marriage was, all the other women in group starts to critically think about they own marriage. And they more likely to get divorced as well, since that single women is giving them an example.
Stuff like: "After her divorce, she looks soo happy with her new guy." OP didn't went this far, but maybe with time she would hamster herself into a divorce.
They would literally throw away everything for some feelz/tingles after being bored for years.
This is not about hypergamy, more like Briffault's Law.
"Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association." Right now she lacks excitement, and this is all she needs, everything else /u/DoesNotMatterAnymore .
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
Yeah I guess. I guess it's hard to even define the hypergamy except in her own mind. Like many people have stated, if the lover had won the fight, she would have been satisfied with her choice/infidelity. So that one situation was the decider for who was actually better, despite the husband being better in 100 different ways.
StudntRdyTeachrApear 8y ago
Another great example of how far we think we've removed ourselves from the animal kingdom (we aren't).
feminists_are_dumb 8y ago
Hypergamy as an instinct isn't predicated on the new mate ACTUALLY being better, just APPEARING to be better.
Mecha75 8y ago
Although her husband was still being an alpha, he did allow her to change him. He stopped being what attracted her to him from the beginning. In steps a man that seemingly behaved like her husband used to. Then when her husband caught her and then beat the shit out of her lover (that she wrongly valued higher than her husband) and his friend, she wanted her husband back. Follow that up with him dumping her and she is seriously feeling a double whammy of a hit to hypergamy.
Seoul_Brother 8y ago
I think another thing men should add on to their list is to lift always, but also learn how to fight. Sounds like the soon to be ex husband at least had some knowledge on how to take people down. Lifting helps, but being able to use those muscles to take down other men and be faster in fight or flight situations wins. Seen way too many big dudes that don't know how to actually fight.
Haven't fought anyone in many years, but I still go to kick boxing classes and keep myself on my toes.
Also pretty admirable of the guy to choose to house the wife despite what she did; now that's coming from a place of authority.
RedPillHanSolo 8y ago
The "end game" in a nutshell. The moment you stop being on your toes and "relax" thinking you "finally got it" is the moment your woman/wife/GF/plate walks over you.
johnsonsson 8y ago
the recently divorced/single woman is a threat you should never underestimate when you lead your woman through life. you have to shame her like there is no tomorrow. when your woman dares to meet her, you must dread the fuck out of her. recently single women have as much respect for their friend's life as a suicide bomber.
More men must act like this fella. The only way to put women in their place is by reestablishing collective shame in society and not let any smisstep be unjudged.
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At least one person disagreeing:
Yeah, he is the bad guy for telling the husband his wife is making a spectacle of herself in public. That poster restored my lack of faith in humanity. It wasn't her fault, it was the messenger of bad news that ruined her marriage.
wellsking 8y ago
^ This person who left this comment gets it down to a tee. Well played, well played. You're right the guy does sound alpha too, she got bored of her house trained alpha and wanted tingles from chad.. Big big lesson in here for all.
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Frenetic_Zetetic 8y ago
The problem is, bitches are going to get bored regardless of what an alpha is doing. If it wasn't enough tingles from flirting, it would be something else. ALWAYS an excuse, never personal responsibility for choices made.
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This is what happens when women don't have lots of kids.. My grandma had 4 kids and was never "bored"
sqerl 8y ago
Can't be said enough.
Look at a shoe store:
Men's section is a couple rows.
Woman's section takes up an entire floor.
There's not enough options to keep them happy. Kids, PTA, Alpha husband.... still not enough.
Even the alpha husband needs to work and provide. Which is time not spent with her. Then the wife has GNO (girls night out) which is really just a covert way of saying, "let's see if my milkshake stills brings boys to the yard". And if it does, and she's not happy with you, new guy just got a free dip.
Lift like your life depends on it. Solidify your frame.... and never forget: AWALT
Lsegundo 8y ago
You forgot "never get married". By the sloots admission her husband did everything right for 15 years and was still sexy. She still didn't stop herself from spreading her legs for Chad.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
My sisters boyfriend is Chad, they've been dating for 15 years. He's hitting 50 soon and getting a bit more beta and she hates it, started shit testing him.
His biggest asset is to always be on the edge of walking away, and he has always played it, making her constantly realise what she's losing out on by being a bitch. And she gets in line and becomes obsessed with him again.
Fuck it's brutal.
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Letting them know you'll walk away is literally the only power a man has. I dropped my gaurd once and the shit tests cranked up three notches instantly.
So I walked and ghosted, it was all I had left
LiteSoul 8y ago
What's brutal, him becoming more beta and her shit tests? Or him applying his biggest asset?
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
The shit tests at the smallest beta tell. I used to hate him and never understood why my sister was so obsessed with him and why he was such a selfish cunt. Now I see it all, and we actually get on now because he has chilled out his attitude.
plenty_of_eesh 8y ago
I think the original story is fake.
I mean, I am able to believe that AWALT, but, just, every detail of this story is so perfectly... well, perfect as far as the example that most male readers want to get angst/satisfaction over.
I was going to quote some of it but you put most of the "too perfect" stuff in your comment.
royal_fucktard 8y ago
Funny how she sees her fuckboy getting his ass kicked and immediately dries up like the Sahara and decides "never again".
HA! Enlightened instantaneously when weakness is displayed.
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Hilarious that he bashed both of them at once.
Toussant 8y ago
Agree with this poster on there:
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Toussant 8y ago
Hard to blame the guy, things seemed ok for 15 years. Then she "got bored". They were on the up and up, from financial strains to a good neighborhood and activities for the kids. He did exactly what he was supposed to do.
Just about the only thing he could've done to avoid this was to follow the advice of the book "Ugly Wife Is a Treasure at Home"? (Didn't read it but assuming from the title).
__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
He could have worked dread game too, but clearly he was comfortable enough with all he did for her to believe he was good. Remember, he didn't grow up reading 'trp'. He's alpha as hell, but didn't realize the danger of treating the mother of his kids well with out continuing to keep her on her toes. Life, and particularly the necessity of dealing with family life, has a way of making it difficult to stay on top of everything. In fact, she fucked up because of it by becoming bored and cheating. He fucked up because of it by not making sure she understood what the consequences of her boredom might be.
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In the end, that was the biggest sin committed. A woman giving up her most valuable resource to a "pitiful pretender." It is also one of the many reason's why TRP is so vilified. TRP goes against the "just be yourself" mantra. Sperm is plentiful and eggs are precious. Instinctively and genetically, a woman has to get it right by breeding with the best genes she can get. The survival of the human race is ingrained and dependent on this. A beta in hiding robs her of making a decision on breeding selectivity.
That's because he lost the fight. If the "pitiful pretender" won the fight, then the speed of the hamster wheel on why she dumps the husband would open a rift in the space/time continuum.
lovepankydud 8y ago
Which one of your Redpillers posted this over there lol
Oz70NYC 8y ago
I wish I knew this guy's name so I coukd buy him a scotch and say "Keep standing tall, brother."
JointDexter 8y ago
http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/marriage-life-partnerships/infidelity/540457-intense-anger
The husband posting on the same forum seems a bit suspicious. I smell a troll.
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I think loveshack is a pretty big site. It is not impossible they both found it independently. I bet plenty of exes both have profiles on plentyoffish, for example.
AshyBoneVR4 8y ago
Seriously, read the full post. It's fuckin art. That man is a prime example of what a man in real life should be.
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turok281 8y ago
Why scared bro? This is a perfect story to learn from. A guy to take example from. The guy will be just fine. He has probably already found another woman (good looking, fit, a kickboxer, well-off financially). This was from a year and a half ago. Out of curiosity checked the wife and even after all this time she complains in every thread of that shit-hole (loveshack). Her nick HadEverything says it all really. Alpha-Widowed for life basically, lost her sons, her home. Women can be really dumb though. Can't see beyond their own nose.
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Ronin11A 8y ago
Please. Just because you didn't see it didn't mean it wasn't happening. Read between the lines.
[deleted] 8y ago
Seems to me like you still wished to be married. Consider a private marriage (consult with your lawyer to make sure it will work in your area). It is a LOT easier to walk away from it than a normal, government interfered marriage. It won't burn half your assets atleast though child support is still a thing. As for your planned wife not approving of it? Just increase your SMV to the highest it can be and say she is free to leave if she doesn't agree to it. Still give her a ceremony and shit though as what is most important to her is that everyone sees she is married. She technically is just that the government cannot interfere with it.
Returnofthemack3 8y ago
a lot of us agree man, but what is there to be done? The game is stacked against men legally, and the marriage contract is not sacred or respected anymore. It's not that you can't have what you're saying, but it takes a wonderful woman who truly has accountability and self responsibility ingrained into her noggin, because the cliche 'with great power comes great responsibility' is true. Unless she's making more than you (uncommon scenario), she holds all the power in divorce hearings and child custody. If she's a great woman, that wont matter, but it takes quite the leap of faith and the risk of it going awry and destroying your life is very, very real.
turok281 8y ago
"He couldn't be more alone" We are all alone. I see that you have the mindset of finding a woman, getting married and that's it. Your journey and self improvement is over basically? You should focus on YOU, set YOUR goals and have the strong will and discipline to achieve them. Accept the fact that she can walk away and back stab you. Also, keep in mind that this is an extreme case of an entitled, spoiled brat, cunt. On top of that i assume she is too good looking for her own good. Perpetually looking for a harder alpha /bad boy. In this case, even though the husband was alpha, you lose some when you become a husband and father as responsibilities arise and you become a little bit predictable/boring. If you have a good woman (less awalt) she will understand. As i said, this is an extreme case of entitlement.
p3n1x 8y ago
Nope, not if she has actual options and "FEELz" she can execute them.
If you bore her, you bore her, period. Bored = loss of tingles. Loss can turn into desperation and a desperate female will literally do anything to get back to a positive emotional state.
Extreme cultural conditioning or "shame" upbringing (conservative fam / religion, etc..) is really the only thing that will slow the hamster. "conditioned guilt"
ShrimShrim 8y ago
Like others said, this is an extreme case. None the less, I would have showed up with a gun, fired a shot into the ground, and there'd be no "circling around" me or any fucking kung-fu.
A lot of guys here talk about fighting. I'm 6'2'' 215 lbs lean. I'm still not fighting shit. Fights should absolutely be avoided at all costs.
__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
And that's you. You'll note that she specifically said that when they were younger, he liked to mix it up and it turned her on. My point is that he's good at it and knows it and continues to train in kick boxing. So he's not likely to be to worried about taking a couple of knuckle heads out with his arms and legs. Could it escalate? Sure. But I doubt he was worried about that, and it never went beyond the beat down he handed out. Not everything has to be solved with a gun.
masterchiepher 8y ago
I like fighting though, primal shit.
Blaat1985 8y ago
Getting killed, disabled for life or in prison is really fun yeah.
adam_varg 8y ago
If you really need it, save it for the ring.
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p3n1x 8y ago
Subjective
Doesn't mean it wasn't happening, means you just didn't see it. Or know how to recognize it.
The rest of your post is your version of right/wrong, "Disneyland". 2+2 does NOT =4 in the intimate realm of men and women.
Returnofthemack3 8y ago
I think a lot of people would be shocked at how many people stay together for the children or for convenience's sake (financial) whilst being completely miserable. People tend to only focus on divorce and ignore that many marriages are pretty shite over time
p3n1x 8y ago
So right!
What are the numbers? 52% of marriages end in divorce! I can only imagine what percentage of the leftover 48% are miserable (literally gave up and become zombies) or have infidelities occurring.
MultiverseWolf 8y ago
In my experience (friends) the kids always knows though.
J_bravo_ 8y ago
With TRP's proclivity to lifting I'm a surpised that everyone is ignoring the elephant in the room.
Yes, AWALT, but the second lesson here is that the two guys who lift got the shit beaten out of them by the kickboxer. I fully understand and endorse lifting, it does make you look and feel better, but you're a fool if you think that looks and feelings are going to help you when push literally comes to shove.
While getting cheated on does not qualify as "alpha", it's the kickboxer who walked away with his face intact and the woman pining over him, not the bodybuilders.
[deleted] 8y ago
This idiot thought a little rando dick was worth potentially ruining the rest of her life. Well, it did ruin your life and now all you can do is seek pity. I'm so happy for your (ex)husband, you stupid bitch. You've been found out to be just another skank.
turok281 8y ago
Ok i am not a redpill expert but i believe awalt is more of a spectrum. Some women are more and some less awalt. Some grow in stable families with rules and boundaries and manage to keep it under control. Others (feels like majority nowdays) grow up in degenerate families and fall prey to their own nature. All women are whores, except my mother. But then again, she is a woman" - Napoleon Bonaparte
techfronic 8y ago
It's a random variable. Some populations have worse or better distributions than others
[deleted] 8y ago
There is no fucking spectrum. AWALT is the absolute truth in RedPill. It is the one of the founding pillars of whole movement.
marks1995 8y ago
Death is the only absolute truth.
There is a reason for the word that starts with a "T" after RP.
Lsegundo 8y ago
There absolutely is a spectrum. My ex was a bitch during the divorce. However when pressed to lie about me to the judge to gain an advantage (and I know her miserable cunt SJW lawyer advised her to lie) she refused. She told the truth without twisting or embellishing that particular incident.
So while my ex is AWALT she is not on the same level as many of the stories I know from real life and TRP.
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zealykingz 8y ago
Might as well be Everyone is like that. The concept just keeps you in reality.
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Nearly every woman I know between the ages of 30 and 40 has cheated on at least one boyfriend at the end of a relationship when they were trying to swing to a new partner (and had to test the waters and secure a commitment by giving out the vag). Most do not consider this cheating because in their own mind the relationship was already over.
r0sco 8y ago
It's selection bias on reporting, but I feel it's necessary to change disney-land-idealistic views that a lot of men have on women.
wisty 8y ago
It's not so much that all women are like that. It's that all men make excuses when women are like that. "No, she's not really like that, she'll realise I'm a nice guy / she wasn't emotionally cheating / she needs to find herself by having a road trip through Europe with her friends" ... ROFL
It's like when women say "All men are like that". It's not literally true, but it's close enough. "No, I'm sure he really values my friendship / doesn't want to commit because he doesn't want to get hurt / just wants things to happen organically ... " ROFL.
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MultiverseWolf 8y ago
That logic is faulty. You read that cheating is common here because its one of the primary subjects that's related to people transitioning to TRP.
Some women have better self control, others have less.
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Right, I'm aware that TRP is going to be a heavily biased sample but still... The sheer number of TRP members is enough to confirm that cheating in general, is a lot more common than what I had realized.
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Lsegundo 8y ago
you did not mention the most important point. When a woman cheats the man will be blamed for not listening enough, not being good in bed, etc
It's never a woman's fault thanks to feminism.
turok281 8y ago
It is human nature and it doesn't have to be moral. You see awalt often on redpill because it is not widely known or accepted in society, so it somehow needs to be "exposed". Amalt (All men are like that), but no need to say that as it's widely known and accepted. I'll just paste this: Being angry or hating women because AWALT is just stupid. Because ad the same time you must hate men because of AMALT. All Men Are Like That Example: All men will have urge to fuck as much women as they can, and all of them will get bored with fucking the same women for years. And NAMALT will Mean that: Guy 1: Will actively search for other women and will cheat with as many as he can. Guy 2: Will not search for other but will cheat if he will have possibility. Guy 3: Will not cheat on his women, and silently endure. Guy 4: Will try spice up bedroom and keep be faithful. Now extra cultural crucial element. Men are raise to be helpful and faithful to there women. To be White Knight for them. Majority of them ad least believe that they will never cheat, they will love witch all there heart and will live happy ever after. Just accept that we are all just smart animals and relax.
landon042 8y ago
but it is entirely different when a woman cheats, for a man it's the urge to bust some nuts because when you get erections multiple times a day, that's what happens.
but a woman cheats because the guy is different or higher smv and it is entirely disrespectful to her husband, it means she no longer values him or respects him/attracted to him.
A man cheats for his urge to fuck but he can still love his wife
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Please. It's not different at all.
Love is compromise. A woman can cheat for her urge to sleep with someone else and still be perfectly "in love" with her husband, just like a man.
Assuming you're in a monogamous relationship, fucking anyone other than your SO is cheating, and cheating is wrong. It's a sign of disrespect / lack of value for your partner. Regardless of gender.
Edit: 'It's not different at all' was the incorrect choice of words here. I completely agree that women cheat, much like the same way we are attracted, for the feels, whereas for men it's physical. But it comes across that you're implying that physical makes it more justified, which isn't true.
Lsegundo 8y ago
Straight from the horses mouth. Completely disagree with your post rivertorain. That doesn't mean I think its ok to promise a woman you aren to going to fuck anyone else and then cheat if she is holding up her end of that deal.
but mens cheating and womens cheating for the most part is different.
diomedes777 8y ago
No, you are completely wrong. When a woman cheats on her man she has checked out of the relationship and it's usually due to death of fundamental attraction and lack of dread from the end of the man.
Women do not cheat for physical reasons in the same way men do, there's something deeper, whereas for men it is purely to blow a load in a new vagina
LukesLikeIt 8y ago
I agree. A man can cheat and continue to feel the same way about a women but when a women cheats something changes in the way she feels about her partner.
BlackJ1 8y ago
Nope. Women don't cheat because of a lack of attraction or dread.
As I've said in previous posts, I'm a firm believer that under the right/certain circumstances every girl will cheat no matter how "alpha" or high value you are.
It's in a woman's nature. They are nomadic opportunistic lovers.
There is only two reasons why a woman wouldn't cheat.
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Cheating on anyone is checking out of the relationship due to death of fundamental attraction.
"Blowing a load in another vagina" doesn't make it any better or any more okay.
Lsegundo 8y ago
Your two replies here are very blue. You want to ignore that men and women are different. I am not condoning cheating by men in most cases. Cheating by men is different.
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No, I agree that we are different. I do not agree that it makes it any more okay for a man to cheat because it's "only physical", which is the underlying implication of the original comment. To me, infidelity is infidelity - whether it's emotional or physical is irrelevant.
The_BitterTruth 8y ago
Damn, reading this kind of makes me feel bad for fucking married women.
Bitchezbecrayy 8y ago
No doubt, meta OP's future will be along the lines of this to a T-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN5s9N_pTUs
[deleted] 8y ago
Holy fuck I shouldn't have read that, it pissed me off!! That stupid bitch. She'll never get back what she threw away. God people are so fucking stupid
40_SixandTwo 8y ago
I remember job I had 2 years ago there was a couple that worked there. The dude, we'll call Dave was a jacked country boy who spent his weekends hunting, working on trucks and doing other typical manly shit. He lived with his girlfriend, chewed dip constantly, shot guns, worked out five days a week.
His girl that worked there to was banging one of the guys at this place, the dude she was banging, Ben was some video game nerd who still lived with his parents. He was mad tall but had that fat flabby body that looked like a pyramid on it's base, you know the type with the narrow ass shoulders, skinny arms but an overflowing fat waist line and man tits. He also had a bunch of Warcraft and Star Wars tattoos.
I don't know how the hell it happened, it was fucking weird.
ex_addict_bro 8y ago
He was obviously that video game alpha. In moderation.
40_SixandTwo 8y ago
I'm not sure, man. I think it was more a social status thing, where Ben was one of the cool kids among everyone that worked there, and since day one of getting hired country boy Dave would show up, do his thing, collect his pay and leave.
cha54mi 8y ago
Quikscopes my friend . They make the juices flow
40_SixandTwo 8y ago
Lol. I couldn't tell you. country boy Dave drove a Porsche when he wasn't in his F150, btw.
traveldeedee 8y ago
I never understand why the guy who's cheated on would beat the guy who did the cheating with the woman. It's the woman that should've been beaten. If chad A didn't come around, she'd been cheated with chad B, and C and D...
turok281 8y ago
Read the story. He insulted the husband and attacked him
traveldeedee 8y ago
Sorry, I omitted that part. That makes sense.
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I'm glad everyone knows and she had to face the consequences of her actions.
Growing up, the neighbors all knew each other and talked. There was a sense of community. Now, visiting my family home, it is very different. This lack of community allows people to get away with infidelity more now.
EDIT: typo
landon042 8y ago
I remember from edward scizzerhands? however scissor is spelled
taking place in the 50s I think or some early time. the community women would talk, obviously if someone cheated it would get around, It seemed like if there was a man of interest, all the women would try for his attention like they all wanted to cheat lol.
I think it was a sense of them cockblocking eachother that noone actually cheated because they all wanted to
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Coincidentally, the betrayed husband posted at that same site looking for support.
Google
loveshack intense anger
peterson2004 8y ago
His intense anger indicates disillusion towards women - still very much under a BP spell.
__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
Nonsense. If he were BP, he'd be considering reconciliation. And clearly he is not. He won't even let her try to talk about it. He's anything but BP.
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StuttererXXX 8y ago
This is another post of her: " I don't understand how he can be so cold about this. I worry that he is just so strong he will just move past it and give me no chance"
My god, how much more proof of RP theory do people need?
TexanEagle92 8y ago
Only If you are a bad alpha or a alpha in training
Docbear64 8y ago
The most sickening part of this story and to me the real ill of the modern perspective of relationships and the morality of some women is the fact that you can be attractive, a great provider, a good father, a good husband , and yet still because the woman is bored with her everyday activities she can decide to step out on you . Sex with the dude she cheated on her husband with wasn't even as good but because it was different and made her feel "naughty" it was worth her pursuit . I can't fault men for wanting to be married , I can't fault people for craving that deep sense of emotional intimacy from a person , but damn it if stories like this don't make me re- appreciate how there is no fairy tale happy ending .
This man did everything right not just in a TRP sense but in a pure- societal sense of what a man should be and provide for his family and after getting just about everything a woman can ask for and not having any internal desire to create a spark of excitement in her own life she betrayed the trust of her husband .
I know not all women are like this but investing that much in a partner to find out that your partner was a piece of shit in waiting seems ludicrous to me . My heart bleeds for the man .
RedPillHanSolo 8y ago
AWALT in a sense that they get bored and start to wander.
Oz70NYC 8y ago
There's an old saying that goes "you can do every possible thing right in preparation and still fail." A classic Kobayashi Maru scenario...absolutely unwinnable.
turok281 8y ago
Totally agree with you except for the part that this man DID do things right in a Red Pill sense (even if not aware of it maybe) and still the sense of mistery and idealization of the other man prevailed. I think the single worst part is that this regret of hers stems from the fact that her husband won the fist fight and this brought back her tingles for her husband. Had he lost the fight she would have totally gone with the other man. Straight from the horses mouth: "I foolishly traded in my lion for a chance to run with hyenas. - Now I see that I had the real tough guy/bad boy already"
Sometimes i think how lucky i was to find this place at my age and how much i have taken from here and it was all by pure chance.
Oz70NYC 8y ago
If TRP existed when I was in my 20s...oh how much more in life would I have accomplished? If I were armed with the knowledge I've gained the last 3 years...10 years ago, I'd probably be a different person. Or at the least not have let women...namely my ex wife...bring me to the point of near madness.
Live and learn and AWALT.
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askmrcia 8y ago
I'm 26 and would have loved to have gotten married one day. It's impossible now. This story is the norm. Not that every woman acts exactly like this, but most modern day women do get bored in relationships.
You have to remember thanks to social media almost every woman believes that they are some celebrity that is living the high life.
They don't realize that being boring is normal. Being a responsible adult that is working and providing for their family is not boring. It's something that should be done.
But they look at Kim kardashian, their single friends who are working shit jobs and making it look like they are living the high life on social media; they look at those and think to themselves that that's what life is all about.
Every relationship of mine ended the same. As soon as we get comfortable around one another and spend a few days doing nothing but enjoying each other company they get up and leave.
It was never me cheating on them, hitting them, being disrespectful to them or anything, they just get bored after a while because they need something to brag about to all their friends. And yes they all tried fighting me over the smallest things (I'm guessing to spice up the relationship or make me end it) but I have such a laid personality that I just don't even bother arguing.
I personally could not imagine getting married. I know for a fact that most women are marrying just for attention from the weddings. They have weddings, baby showers, and all these celebrations. But as soon as the attention decreases from the marriage and as soon the Facebook likes decreases from their baby pictures, they will get bored and get ready to move on.
Sad times we live in
ckp2906 8y ago
Some things were too text book AWALT, then i was thinking it might be fake. But i don't think so though.
lol at the " Now i realise that i actually had a tough guy already and i regret it !! "
So if he hadn't acted masculine in the end, so wouldn't be sorry
[deleted] 8y ago
One doesn't Alpha up to protect himself from women as that's not possible.
He makes changes so he can determine his path rather than just have life happen to him
Treasure_hand 8y ago
There's always someone bigger and badder than you out there, remember that in you endeavors to be high ranking in the social construct. Sometimes you meet people that stomp you out, sometimes your woman does. Oldest and noblest, it's not yours it's just your turn. Sadly, as much as I wished to have the things this guy did, this is truth. Being at the top of the pyramid only means you get challenged more often.
RealMcGonzo 8y ago
What a great lesson for this sub. Chick scores well, ensnares a mate that is at least nearly an alpha if not through and through. Chick decides to get a little side action with not one but two men at once. Flirts obnoxiously with her side action in front of her friends. Husband finds out, new boyfriend fucking threatens husband. Chick says nothing. Husband beats the snot out of boyfriend and chick's second boyfriend. Chick pleads for their lives. Husband walks. Suddenly chick realizes her husband is bad ass and wonders how to get him back.
LMAO.
Even if he took her back . . . shit especially if he took her back, she'd be up to the same games even sooner.
Don't miss the fact that the other women (her "friends") watching in awe was at least half the reason she banged those two guys.
sqerl 8y ago
Another less subtle lesson:
Even a chick with "everything" will still put out for the tingles.
"Be the tingles"
NightwingTRP 8y ago
This is unrealistic advice in this context. You can't be the tingles all the time. You're imperfect. This is why it's so very important to vet like a motherfucker. Any woman you consider for an LTR must be vetted with extreme prejudice. A high RMV woman would never have allowed herself into a situation like that in the first place... it's the mark of a low RMV woman to end up behaving like this.
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NightwingTRP 8y ago
On the sidebar of the AskTRP sub you'll find a section of series posts. Find the LTR series by Occamsusername, Part 3 I believe is the Unicorn Hunter checklist. I also have an archived version of that and a separate set of "green flags" in one of the parts of my TRP Field Toolkit series.
Do a little hunting around from these and you should be able to find plenty of green flag and red flag indicators for evaluating a woman.
sqerl 8y ago
From the husbands perspective, correct. It's impossible to be a 24x7x365 tingle provider. Especially to a low RMV woman.
From the other dudes perspective, he still got laid.... despite the woman "with it all". My comment was from this perspective.
I've seen a similar situation with a born again Christian wife, married to the lead singer of a locally famous band, with the big house in the burbs, big family, always involved with friends and neighbors, great job, etc....
GNO? Yea, she cheated too. The women covered for each other and the wife would be sucking face one moment and on the phone with the hubby the next as if there's nothing happening.
Vet the shit out of them with extreme prejudice? Agreed.... and then some.
NightwingTRP 8y ago
I've never really found this perspective useful. In the field, be the tingles, sure. But post coitus? What does it matter at that point that you got laid? You've done it before and you'll need to again. Our sexual drive is a bit like a dog chasing his tail... there's little purpose in that post-nutting-state.
My point being "doesn't matter, got laid" is a statement of value for sex at a time when sex should biologically be at its least valuable to you. An... unhelpful attitude... at best.
I find the other perspective far more useful for several reasons, including a point that doesn't get raised enough on TRP - evaluation of whether or not you wish to bother with an LTR at any point. After all, it comes with its own unique challenges and compromises on the positives/negatives when compared to spinning plates.
Indeed. One of the things I've had some useful success with is surprising her randomly. Just turn up because you felt like it with a bottle of something. Gauge her reaction. If it's concern rather than happiness... you know she's worried about whether she can hide something from you. A girl who's playing it straight won't be bothered by erratic/sudden positive attention from you. She'll be positively delighted by it.
It'll also encourage an early warning system for you... if she wants to hide something but wants to play it cool too... she'll be very concerned with where you are and when during a time when you're apart. Good way to tell if she's trying to have her cake and eat it too.
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sqerl 8y ago
I get a little salty when reading about women that have it all and still manage to fuck it up because they're bored or whatever the fuck they hamsterize in their heads. Thanks for breaking it down though. I agree with your viewpoint.
Also, the surprise visit idea is great. Seeing a genuinely surprised and happy woman is great. If your woman appears to be faking, she probably is. Having watched an ex look thru my phone then nonchalantly hide her behaviour when I made my presence known.... yea, I've seen how good women act. Your suggestion is a good idea and a good lesson for guys. Do the act, but the response is key too.
Fedor_Gavnyukov 8y ago
lesson learned: she wanted excitement. her life was getting boring with PTA meetings and other useless repetitive garbage. hubby might be alpha, but something was lacking for her. she thought getting side cock was a good idea. this is btw true of many if not most women. once excitement goes out the window, so does her pussy.
another lesson learned: read her post carefully. she realizes that her comfort life is over. she moved out. her kids are not with her and no more support from the hubby, who provided everything for the last 15 years. that's about 90% of what she's worried about losing.
a comment in that thread nailed it:
p3n1x 8y ago
AWALT, and the only part of the story that matters.
Don't let your ego get in the way, to think you are so awesome sauce that she "wouldn't dare" want something else.
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Casanova-Quinn 8y ago
This right here. She made it clear as day that her husband wasn't providing exciting tingles.
Even though the husband was alpha in many ways, he let his masculine edge get dull. He likely stopped teasing/flirting with her on a regular basis.
grubek 8y ago
There is a point where the interaction with the same person starts to get monotonous no matter how great the other person is. After years of spending day after day with the same person, his style becomes almost predictable. Even if the other person keeps trying, its a matter of too much familiarity. At some point you have to take pride and happiness on being able to create a long term relationship, and appreciate it, to compensate for the other person becoming so familiar. If you can not do that, you'll become unhappy and will look outside of the relationship.
Even if you show me the greatest comedian of all times, I can assure you his wife will become tired of his jokes and his humour after some time. Its inevitable. You either are capable of appreciating the familiarity or will not have lasting or faithful long term relationships.
msaintx 8y ago
Yeah, I dont get it. No one can fault the guy, because he seemed like a decent reconsiple human being, but the wife ? She gets bored and cheats, how can that ever be justified ? Its doesnt matter that the guy does, she still has an obligation to act better than a fucking animal. I'm still trying to swallow this pill, and am only in the very beginning stages, and I'm still trying to rectify what it means to be a decent human being. Remember the order of creation first came Adam from the Dust, the Eve from Adam. Eve was created for Adam/Man, not Adam for Eve. Thus God-Man-Woman-Animal. Its sad, but I feel more liberation, freedom to be an actual man because I can view women without my fantastical lenses blinding my vision anymore, yet its still difficult.
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[deleted] 8y ago
You don't know that.
Reading the entire thing, his cheating exwife was very entitled with an above average fixation on being the prize of a tough guy.
He did wrong by choosing her perhaps, but I think you are going too far with your interpretation.
Casanova-Quinn 8y ago
For the record, I don't 100% blame the husband. The wife should have realized she already had the tough guy, but she decided to fuck it up and act before she thought about it. That's her fault.
Frenetic_Zetetic 8y ago
This. So fucking sick of reading supposed RPers defaulting on the dude. "If only he followed and maintained rules 3, 6, and 9 he'd have avoided this shit!". Bitches are crazy. This sub proves it. This dude is probably the most alpha example of rectifying a situation like this so far on here.
RedPillHanSolo 8y ago
I agree with this sentiment, but I have a different take on what Casanova-Quinn was saying. He merely pointed out what was the problem: you can't provide enough tingles in a married life or you could but that would require enormous amount of resources that would be well spent elsewhere.
Frenetic_Zetetic 8y ago
Well said. It comes down to an economy of sorts - is the input effort worth the possible ROI? In most cases (marriage), absolutely not.
DubbleFUPAwitCheez 8y ago
Yes, bitches are crazy but the reason we tend to put the onus on the man is linked to the popular simile that dealing with women is like training a dog. Is there a possibility that the dog is untrainable? Sure but highly unlikely. The chances are better that the trainer is poor. Women are products of their environment, men are supposed to be in control of that environment. That's literally what an alpha is. The one that controls the environment he's in. It's unlikely we'll ever know for sure where this poor bastard went wrong.
Casanova-Quinn 8y ago
First off, I've been on this sub for over 2 years so stop the "supposed RPers" bullshit. Second, I'm not putting all the blame on the guy, just pointing out what went wrong on his end. The bitch should have realized what she had before cheating, so that's her fuck up. You know what I'm sick of? RPers acting like shit is 100% the man's or woman's fault. It's usually a mix of both. Reality isn't so black and white.
feminists_are_dumb 8y ago
This is a perfect example of a "natural" alpha who is extremely Blue Pill (i.e. still female centric). He put her on a pedestal and didn't understand what would happen if he did that.
__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
i don't think he put her on a pedestal at all. What I think he did was trust her.
feminists_are_dumb 8y ago
"He gave me everything I could ever ask for" blah blah blah. She didn't feel like she was working to earn HIS trust and desire and therefore she got bored.
__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
I'm not denying she was bored; she said so. And I'm not saying he didn't fuck that up; clearly he did. But 'extremely Blue Pill': don't think so. If he was, he would have been looking for just about any excuse to reconcile, and clearly he did not.
bbmc7gm6fm 8y ago
More men need to learn to behave like this guy. Show no mercy and fuckin' WALK AWAY!
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I can second the "walk away immediately" advice. I wasted two years hamstering and bargaining with what I knew to be true.
Watch the weeknd music video the hills. Watch how he limps away from that car wreck. Like that, just get up, get out and never look back, cause it's about to explode.
aequitas_1 8y ago
Absolutely. Dude handled it as well as he could have. All. of. it.
fuckornottofuck 8y ago
What mercy? Not killing her is mercy.
In other words "I DESERVE the second chance with him". If she didn't think she deserve it, she wouldn't create that post.
All of her good words about her husband just her hamstering and reverse buyer's remorse after seeing both men compete.
Man...
deadstick_it 8y ago
I think you are on to something. I was reading through this thread and something just seemed off. You said what I was thinking. Her husband might not have been an alpha male until she saw him beat the fuck out of that guy. Then the hamster starts spinning.
Tre_Walker 8y ago
Exactly what I was thinking. It was a shit test, hubby passed by winning the fight so now she regrets losing hubby/alpha. If hubby had lost guess who she would want to be with?
Now the sad fact is she should have had her ass kicked, but we don't do that. Men go to jail and in fact he was risking prison by passing the test while the wife always runs scott free shaking her ass and riding the CC while he goes to hell.
It is a womans world...well at least in the 1st world, not necessarily the 2nd or 3rd world but even there is at least some measure of patriarch/matriarchial power balance. It is what it is don't believe the matrix hype.
Is it a coincidence that matrix and matriarchy both derive from MATRI (mother) ? The first 5 letters of Matrix mean "mother" http://www.dictionary.com/browse/matri- The hand that rocks the cradle.... Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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At least more or less all the comments are ripping her up.
esirnus18 8y ago
Wow just wow!! I think we might just found a genuine Alpha male.
turok281 8y ago
Agree! When i hear about cases of beta losers makes my blood boil. Don't know why but i fell like a strong repulsion and disgust towards them even though logically i would say it's a good thing (less competition for me). Basically it all comes down to having some dignity, self-respect and honor!
thehonestdouchebag 8y ago
I used to be like you. If it's any consolation, you'll grow numb to it and all kind of female shit eventually with enough exposure. I almost wish I never found the RP but you can't unlearn what you've learned. I guess being comfortably numb isn't all that bad either though.
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Same here, man. My blood boils when I hear that shit.There was another story of a dude banging this chick in her parents condo and he posted the pictures of his cum on her ass in an online forum to prove that he wasn't lying. So the chick finally admitted it was her and eventually her boyfriend had a chat about it and she explained to him that it was "just sex" and that she loved him.. Anyways days later she did it again with the same guy and guess what?? The fuckin cuck took her back. The worst thing about it is that the couple tried to pawn it off on my like I did something wrong, "because if it wasnt for me, they would have never met" I dont even know those people.
cake_eater 8y ago
sluts are my bread and butter
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shitsintents 8y ago
That's the opposite of what's happening here. Sluts decrease other women's power. Betas increase alphas' power.
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coolasice007 8y ago
He didnt walk away he let his anger get the best of him to put his hands on another man over a woman
__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
You must have reading comprehension problems. According to her, he was calm as shit, just obviously extremely disappointed in her. And when he told the AP to get his hands off his wife, AP 'puffed up' and told him to run away and forget everything he saw. In the mean time, AP's friend was circling around him. She doesn't really say how the melee started, exactly, but she makes it clear that she believed her husband was going to get the beat down. And in a matter of minutes she was surprised when AP and the friend were whining like bitches. The man stood his ground, protected what was his, and then walked away. It wasn't just a plate, it was his wife of 15 years and the mother of his children. I don't think you know what being a man is.
coolasice007 8y ago
Protected what was his?? Again what exactly was his at that point?? His best move would have made sure that whore saw him while she was slutting it up being unfaithful, not said a word and walked off. When she got home her shit would be outside. Get your hands off my wife...lmao...at what point was she still his wife? Can you answer that since you obviously comprehend this? He was fighting over a ho point blank, there was no physical threat to her she was loving the shit...action, not explanation by "mateguarding" a non mate which is what he did.
__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
You don't sound like a real man. What he did raised his value in the eyes of the community under a very shitty circumstance. Simply walking away was the pussy move.
__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
Moreover, his is what he's financially obligated to support. You, in your infantile wisdom, seem to believe that he walks away scott free if he so chooses. You're really retarded enough to believe that? You can't possibly be older than, say, about 22. And that's probably a stretch.
BlacknOrangeZ 8y ago
I've come to expect a post on the relationships sub like "I'm proud of my wife for exploring her sexuality but I'm wondering why I feel a bit uncomfortable about this. I know it's her body and her choice, so what can I do to get past my selfishness and prove to her that I can still be a good husband?"
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I read a post on there today about a guy who caught his girlfriend cheating for the THIRD time and all she had to do was cry and beg at his feet for him to take her back. He claimed they could "communicate better" and work through it. What a delusional cuck.
Frenetic_Zetetic 8y ago
Fool me once, shame on me.
Fool me twice, and I'm fucking all of your closest friends; some at the same time!
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[deleted] 8y ago
Great he left her, no fault divorce, he's fucked if he makes more than her and his violent act will be used against him in any custody hearings.
Regardless, I treat the majority of detailed and lengthy relationship posts on the internet as works of fiction.
turok281 8y ago
Not this one. It's a real situation. Check their profiles.
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turok281 8y ago
Hahaha. This made me laugh and sad at the same time, as i wouldn't be surprised of that actually happening.
BreathOfDick 8y ago
Oh it does, and not just to satisfy a cuckold kink the male has. Women are so fucking ruthless it's mind blowing.
DaSquariusGreen 8y ago
And they should continue to be; it helps the survival of the species. Men just need to know what they are dealing with, so it can be effectively managed, and they can be equally effective. Que TRP.
J_the_Assassin 8y ago
Beta males talk down upon it because they don't understand. Women talk down upon it because they know it's true.
sqerl 8y ago
Maybe this is why divorce laws are so penalizing towards men. Some smart dude realized that if left unregulated, women would bankrupt a country by their ruthless, shitty behaviour.
writewhereileftoff 8y ago
Hmm? Au contraire. Women are bigger consumers and that is good for the economy. Also there is money to be made from divorces. So females leech it from betas, and the state has an easier time leeching from females. The biggest demographic mass consumer clones are females. Think Iphone.
Money you haven't really earned is easily spent.
sqerl 8y ago
Oh, agreed. My post wasn't clear... divorce laws punish men so men continue to work and support their exes. Which is better than the gov't paying for their shit.
[deleted] 8y ago
Coming from a lesbian, holy dicknips is this the truth. Feminism this generation is just an attempt to give women a free pass to be male-funded rampant sluts.
fucking subbed
Harleydamienson 8y ago
The reason the divorce laws are the way they are, is because business, the government, the lawyers, basically everybody knows woman will spend money. Basically stimulating the economy by going shopping as a pass time.
sqerl 8y ago
We're saying the same thing :)
I grew up believing divorce laws were for the protection of precious snowflakes because the bad man couldn't keep his dick in his pants and left his good wife and children to fend for themselves. That bastard.
Now I see that some smart people realized women have an innate inability to stay faithful and by maximizing the penalty against man, guaranteed the money is put back into the system which supports (what is now) a gov't sponsored prostitute.
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I read a post on there today about a guy who caught his girlfriend cheating for the THIRD time and all she had to do was cry and beg at his feet for him to take her back. He claimed they could "communicate better" and work through it. What a delusional cuck.
[deleted] 8y ago
As a guy who still wants to raise a traditional nuclear family, things like this really make my passion for that go cold. Vetting only helps so much but there is always a RISK no matter what you do..
marty2k 8y ago
Don't worry, when I was young and naive I wanted to be a superhero, we all have to grow out of our childish dreams someday.
Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago
Just go into it assuming she will cheat on you at the worst possible time and then do her best to ass rape you in front of the world and make it look like you're the bastard and you'll be fine.........lol.
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Life is full of risks... in everything you do. You can't control everything, but you do the best that you possibly can.
[deleted] 8y ago
I know the feeling. I dated one girl that fit that profile but I blew that relationship.. My arrogance really bit me on the ass.. The good ones are NOT easily replaced
plutorising92 8y ago
I'm from India and relatively new to this. Slutty chicks are here too, though I think its a tad less than the west. For now, it'll be the same in the next 1-3 years.
But hell I'm not even getting married whilst in India. Traditions my ass, hypergamy+feminism don't care. Sorry to hear this man, I wanted to raise a family once too. Not anymore.
thehonestdouchebag 8y ago
Wanting to raise a traditional family now a days is like wanting to become a professional Mahjong player.
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landon042 8y ago
Kill that dream, I wanted many children And I think I will still get them
but kill the dream of a traditional family, raise the smv so that you can have a girl or multiple to raise your children.
you don't have to get married, just wouldn't reccomend living in a common law marriage state or some shit where if a girl lives with you more than a year or 2 she's entitled to half your shit. (that's stupidest law shit I ever read)
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See, the dream of having multiple women sounds promising but at thesame time it does limit my ability to be a father to the kids of each one... Unless I can get them to live with me under the same roof... Hmmm... Welp, gotta raise my SMV.
cragfar 8y ago
Reading enough of these you'll see this is how things start like 60% of the time
Lsegundo 8y ago
If you catch your woman even accepting a number NEXT. If she is even texting some other dude NEXT. Most mens bar for ending a relationship are way too high because they are fat, pathetic schlubs that will have difficulty replacing her.
I once broke up with a gf for getting two phone calls late night right when I got back from vacation. She tried to trickle truth me starting with it was a wrong number. I wasn't buying that shit. A few days later she admitted to enough to confirm breaking it off was right. I should have ghosted her. TRP has taught me my standards should be even stricter going forward. If a woman doesn't fully respect you youre headed for trouble down the road so might as well move on.
shadowq8 8y ago
Find a religious family you may have luck
[deleted] 8y ago
No. AWALT.
Men who have married good Christian virgin girls have been cheated on and divorced.
There is no sure thing. You can improve the odds a little, but why roll dice in the first place. The house always wins.
shadowq8 8y ago
Improve your chances by choosing where to roll the dice
BreathOfDick 8y ago
Yeah, you're fucked. Sorry to hear that you want this dream to come true.
[deleted] 8y ago
Yup, TRP is a cheat code but I'm playing on Insane mode.
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Lo-G 8y ago
Yeah. TRP is basically the rules of the game. Good luck playing.
Returnofthemack3 8y ago
yeah, it's crazy, but what can you really expect when society and the state basically encourages, trivializes, and INCENTIVIZES divorce and infidelity? Outside of some public shaming, maybe, a woman stands to lose very little and gain quite a bit under the current system. Hell, even if she is the one that was unfaithful, she can twist it so she's the victim and people will believe her! 'He was passion-less, he was unattentive, he was ABUUUUUSIIVEEE!' lol it's such a fucking joke. I have no doubt in my mind that if we incentivized men in a negative direction it would have effects in the opposite direction. Humans are humans after all
edit: I cant tell you how many times i've heard a woman frame a cheating situation into her being the victim. I can name like 5 people off hte top of my head that cheated on their bfs/husbands and fed everyone a story about how he was this and that, often they framed it as some nebulous form of 'mental' abuse
[deleted] 8y ago
I made an ex admit to cheating on a past boyfriend (her stories around some thing didn't add up, and I basically proved to her by timeline that she must have cheated at least once, this was based upon her random volunteering of information and she was shocked when she was just chatting and I turned and said "then you cheated on Jeremy, didn't you?"). I have no proof she ever cheated on me. However, her admitting to cheating was a death nail to our relationship, I soon ended it. She blamed the guy she cheated on however by saying "we hadn't seen each other in a while and he walked in and didn't give me a hug" and then she looked at me and said "so always give me a hug" and then she smiled. Crazy bitch.
turok281 8y ago
Did you end it on the spot?
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Nah, took a few weeks. Mind you, I had no proof she had cheated on me. However, I thought her the type to easily cheat, and she confirmed it. After I heard this, I circled my mental wagons and became increasingly more ready to leave the relationship. The final straw was going to a bar and she left my side to go play pool with a bad boy covered in tattoos, and she was gushing over him. I left the bar and broke up with her that night.
She's the one that red pilled me.
Lsegundo 8y ago
excellent job. Any woman that blames her cheating on her then bf for not hugging her has been poisoned by modern feminism.
You saved yourself from swimming through shit somewhere down the road.
[deleted] 8y ago
I'm nearly certain she has borderline personality disorder. Horrific upbringing, and her entire life from 18 to 30 y/o seemed pretty made up to cover for what she likely really did.
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Sad_Larry 8y ago
Join the Catholic Church and find yourself a nice submissive virgin to marry
[deleted] 8y ago
Lol, church. It's all born again virgins that partied and carouseled their way to Jesus.
Now, they've got extra attention from being good church girls again. And the actually good church girls have their pick of the litter anyway.
Forget it, the church is outright useless. It has no power and it's dying anyway. The church is part of the swamp that needs to be drained and it's not in our side.
[deleted] 8y ago
Church is hit and miss. There are some higher quality women that go to church. However, there are an equal number of train wrecks repenting their many sins
ShrimShrim 8y ago
There's risk with literally every activity you do. Part of having control is realizing that you can't always control everything. Until you accept that, you're going to be paranoid and jealous as hell. The only thing you can control is your response.
Duchenne4089 8y ago
Not every activity has the risk of losing half your stuff and one or two little humans that have half your genes.
ShrimShrim 8y ago
My point was that in order to assume control, you have to assume the risks. You can never take control of any aspect of your life or another's life without assuming risk. It isn't possible. So you have to deal with it.
EDIT Haha, love how I'm being down voted for saying that risk exists everywhere. It's simple economics. Living in time and space is itself a risk. If you think you're going to escape risk, good fucking luck.
Returnofthemack3 8y ago
I think the issue people take is that you're kind of trivializing just how unfair and risky a marriage contract is nowadays. You can attempt to mitigate risk by signing a prenup-oh but wait, judges throw those out all the time. You can't even get a good read on how much and what you'd lose, because so much of that is dependent on the judge and the circumstances of the case. I get what youre saying, but this isn't managable, predictable risk, but reckless gambling imo. You frame it as if this is a reasonable arrangement with regular risk you take into consideration and prepare for, but it's much more dire than that im afraid
plutorising92 8y ago
I know all the comments here are saying that the man handles it well and I agree. But while reading the story one thing really struck me - she said he was very loving, sweet and attentive during the marriage. As Rollo said, attention is the coin of realm in girl world.
I think he gave too much of it to her and converted himself into a beta post-LTR. Anyway entering into an LTR and marriage means harder work to create mystery. Comfort is the antithesis of arousal after all. Women want drama all their life, that's just the way they are. Since he wasn't providing any of it by being a certain way.. she sought it elsewhere. She even says that the other loser was arrogant or something and that's what gave her the tingles.
After having caught her though.. he truly handled it in the most perfect way possible.
AnjaJutta 8y ago
This story is so beautiful and meaningful I will print it and frame it so I can read it every day.
Hjalmbere 8y ago
TLDR: Women who are turned on by bad boys lose their tingles when their bad boy becomes a dependable provider. Even if former bad boy stays ripped.
Disclaimer: Not sure if story linked by OP was written by a woman. Either made up or written by the actual husband.
Anyway, something very similar happened to a friend of my brother: He used to be a professional fighter, did time for a violent crime. Meets HB8, turns his life around and fathers a bunch of kids. Stays in shape. Has a career. After 8 years he finds out that his ex is cheating on him with multiple criminal gang members she's met on the Internet. He is devastated.
[deleted] 8y ago
The red flags that were missed by the husband:
1) She's bored. That one is huge, and I have no doubts that these were telegraphed to him somehow.
2) Going out with friends without him. Essentially a girls night out more or less. Happily married wives don't do this on a regular basis.
Yeah he was alpha as fuck all, but he was lacking in red pill knowledge. And when he stopped getting in fights, because he became a father and realized that was fucking stupid when you have lives depending on you, he became more beta in her eyes. And there's probably more ways that he became beta as well, because it's the natural aging of a man to be honest. If he had some basic red pill knowledge this could have been avoided, maybe. But that's why we all ended up here.
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suske127 8y ago
The ultimate shit test. If he stays with the woman he's lost and he's screwed forever. This is a big reason to not get married. If he puts up with her cheating she'll do it again
[deleted] 8y ago
Interesting story but the conclusion you derived "Lift like it's your life depends on it" is lazy advice.
Analysing deep further you can drawn some insightful conclusions/lessons from stories like that. Most men aren't aware but women like men has an innate tendency to maximize their offspring. Fool is the one who thinks women are built for monogamy.
When you get in a LTR assuming you play your cards right in the first 4/5 years your girl will be highly attracted to you. After those first years things will get harder. Why? Women need to vary their genetic offspring in another words they need to combine their eggs with different alpha male sperm.
4/5 years is what it takes to a woman enjoy from a genetic material and protection from a male after that it will surge a natural tendency to feel attracted to other males.
So what are the lessons to take from here?
First - For those who play the LTR game just be extra cautious after those 4 years. I'm not from the anglosphere and where I live is very normal for women in their 20s to enter in LTR and I've seen countless times this happening.
turok281 8y ago
I don't know about the second man. I have already been the other guy with girls in relationships (not married- still too young) and have never given much thought to it. This story makes me think though if it's the right thing to do.
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Women still slut it up in countries where you can be fucking stoned for it. Nothing trumps tingles.
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[deleted] 8y ago
This is so disgusting. She didn't even stand up for her husband, I know that hurt.
thehonestdouchebag 8y ago
That's the worst part. Can you imagine having your wife stay silent when her lover threatens you, but cries out for you to stop attacking her lover. Guy is a champ for it ending with no deaths.
plutorising92 8y ago
Yeah that made my blood boil. A lover who's not even willing to stand by your side.
__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
Correction, not lover but wife of 15 years that, according to her, you treated great and did everything a woman could hope for from a man. And the mother of his children. That's who didn't stand by his side. And it started way before that night.
Overkillengine 8y ago
Many men make the mistake of assuming Alpha is a self-declared final status they can reach that is permanent and that they can relax. Like it some sort of fucking echsbawks achievement or a Pookymons.
WRONG.
It is a conditional state that will always fluctuate depending on you, the woman, and the context. Believing otherwise is just wishful thinking/ego protection.
This situation, real or not, is a prime example. A woman got bored in her current stable relationship and sought out some strange to satisfy her need for excitement. If she isn't getting her drive for excitement "filled" by you or managed in some other manner, she will stray at the next plausible opportunity.
Had the interloper male won the fight, she'd be singing an entirely different tune as she'd still have society enforced provisioning from her soon to be ex and wild dicking from the new man, and she'd be heaping scorn and derision upon her ex for being weak enough to lose. Her current stance is further reinforced by outside agents once her husband showed himself to be the higher value male.
Which leads to the second lesson:
MORALITY AND OTHER SOCIAL CONTRACTS ARE WORTHLESS WITHOUT THE STRENGTH TO BACK THEM UP.
You are male, your role is to be strong. Others will beg for the chance to forgive your flaws so long as you are strong, and will hound you until death if you are not. Disagreeing with this is certainly possible, but it is as constructive as disagreeing with sunlight.
turok281 8y ago
I agree with you but reading the story it's safe to assume that the guy IS an alpha, context and woman considered.
Overkillengine 8y ago
After she already made her gamble on another man, sure, the husband's victory and subsequent reaction demonstrates higher quality than she assumed him to have. Whoops!
Prior to that, no. Regardless of how we or he himself perceives it, the final arbiter of Alpha is "does her pussy want his dick above all others?", and this can literally change from one minute to the next, as the story demonstrated. It is this volatility (and unreliability) of feminine evaluation of men that men need to be aware of lest they become complacent and exploited.
[deleted] 8y ago
WAS, I think is the word here. At least in her eyes, which really is all that matters for this story. Somehow, he managed to become beta. (we all know how of course) You know how some cops live very alpha lives, and yet at home become beta guys? Kind of same thing here I would say.
As soon as I read the part at the beginning where he was a man who got into fights, and it really turned her on, I knew it was only a matter of time. Because when you become a father and have lives depending on you, you don't go around getting in fights anymore, you know? But that's what turned her on, and he let that alpha part go without coming up with something else to sub in for that. More dread, something has to fill that void, because she will find her alpha one way or the other.
[deleted] 8y ago
This tells me to work out, train, and be as fit as possible. If he was a weaker man this could have gone differently.
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purplecabbage 8y ago
Seems like a lot of bros on here are calling her a skank or worse. Lets not forget they were married for 15 years. I believe people are not supposed to be monogamous for long periods like that, from an evolutionary perspective (generally). I read her whole post and from what she wrote, her husband was indeed alpha but so was the other dude she was seeing.
Maybe we should look at AWALT from outside the societal box we're all in and see that her mating behavior makes sense after 15 years of monogamy, even with an alpha.
[deleted] 8y ago
She might not have had absolute free will, but her little processor in her head decided to do skank things instead of the more wholesome things that many other women do.
So, just line them up like robots, and put them into nonskank and skank categories based upon what their AI decides. She's a skank.
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[deleted] 8y ago
The Alpha handled this Beta.
If AWALT, there is no surprise. No reason to get angry or reason to violence. Risk of death or lawsuit. Let the other guy know you get it, it's her fault, and hard next your wife.
RedPillHanSolo 8y ago
Either you didn't read it right or I don't understand you. Wife's side dick and his friend attacked her alpha husband and then he kicked their asses. Yes, the husband probably shouldn't have give in to his anger and punch him again and again.
[deleted] 8y ago
Violence was unnecessary and put him at risk, when a hard next was all that was sufficient. This guy cared too much for his own good and cost him litigation and the threat of jail time.
When somebody fucks your s/o it's not his issue, it's hers. To lash out like he did and lose control w/o good reason and to his detriment was beta.
MikePatton-yakyakyak 8y ago
I don't see a problem with him going full-on caveman on their asses.
STNKMyyy 8y ago
Man he's not chad, he's a BP.
http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/marriage-life-partnerships/infidelity/517119-how-do-i-handle-17.html#post6524237
turok281 8y ago
Nonsense. It's not her husband's profile.
__TheSillyRabbit__ 8y ago
Yep, that's a completely different story.