It is a corollary of the irreconcilability of the male and the female sexual strategies: you either betray your (real or hypothetical) son, favoring the female sexual strategy, or your daughter, favoring the male one. It is not clear, though, especially for traditionally-minded men, where exactly sex-positivity lies in this scheme.
At the core of the male-female difference lies a very simple issue: the price of sex. There are many cultural influences, personal tastes, ideological preoccupations, emphases on reproduction, etc, that color and influence the balancing point in the war of the sexes, but all revolve around this single issue. The cheaper sex is, the more men are favored, the more expensive sex is, the greater power women hold.
I can't help being astonished when people suggest that women, by their flirting requirements, make us men better. They don't. If that was the case, we would all be psychopaths, the one class of men that Game consistently comes natural to. If Game improves you as a man that is only tangentially and coincidentally: finding a purpose and excelling is what made you a better man, rather than learning to win according to the female requirements.
Those said, it is a given, across the ideological board, that the only way for men to procure sex is by getting it legitimately, i.e. by paying women their dues, in terms of conforming to their layed out game. Everything else is considered by the established ideology as "rape", with prostitution being the standing out example.
The pervasive notion that women have a natural right to be the gatekeepers of sex empowers your daughter, but handicaps your son. The pro-female bias inherent in men's psychology makes them support and perpetuate social conventions and expectations that respect women's monopoly over sex, a situation that hurts their sons. This continuing process ultimately hurts men as a whole, since they themselves are their father's sons. At the same time, women shamelessly favor their daughters and semi-intentionally mold their sons into the obedient, placating betas they find useful and convenient to have around, catering to the next generation of their "sister"-women. Sexual deprivation is the means by which women social-engineer their environment into one that it is "natural" and easy for them to navigate. The end result is a pro-woman regime, where pussy is turned into an all-powerful whip.
In light of these observations, I think it is imperative for any male-centered ideology to be sex-positive. Ultimately, all sex-restricting ideologies, by limiting the most sought-after resource for males, hurt men as a whole.
I understand that this assessment is not self-evident: At first sight, the maturation of the early "sexual revolution" into the current "slut culture" has overwhelmingly benefited women and disadvantaged the average man. But this is not seeing the whole picture. This regime has pushed, or allowed, the female strategy into the open. Being fundamentally and profoundly covert, this move spells the its undoing. By removing the element of subterfuge and ideological obfuscation, the female strategy is left with the support of the elite as its single pillar. Practically, it is left with violence as its only pillar, a generalization of the shotgun marriage practice on a universal level. And relying on violence is, indeed, a sign of weakness. For the first time in modern history the female-elite coalition is starting to be exposed, and men have a chance of seeing the truth, their use as expendable cogs, as draft animals, while women and the elite are living a (relative or absolute) life of hedonism. The PUAs, the TRP, Men's Rights Movement, and MGTOW in all its far-reaching spontaneous expressions worldwide, all these movements are threatening a mass unplugging of the average man. Men have benefited because of this newfound, elevated potential.
So, let women be sluts. Let men learn women's true nature. Let men learn the current rate of sex, and plan their lives accordingly. Let them resort to good-old prostitution, if need be. In an age that half of the pregnancies are "unintended", this ideological shift, together with the coming male contraception, is a game-changer. Do you really think that the traditional preaching of sexual prudence to women, making women virgin blackmailers once again, would be a positive outcome for men? Bullshit. Embrace the change. Yes, every person has the full right to decide on who to have sex with. No girl, you no longer have a retirement plan with Beta Joe. Where did all the good men go? Several directions, but in any case away from the old you.
It is still not a full re-institution of the prehistoric balance of the sexes, since women (your daughters!) still get to use their sexual leverage to gain attention, while men are systematically taxed in order to accommodate female needs. But we now have the exciting prospect of seeing women try to cope in a world that, for the first time in millennia, men get to set some of the rules too. Men having the power to set rules - without the old obligation to be a provider. It sounds like fun, no?
PantsonFire1234 7y ago
Men will always promote sluttiness in women as women will always promote betaness in men. The only difference is that a father atleast has the decency to not turn his own daugther into a slut while a mother has no problem making her son a beta male. This last point shows how few values women hold dear.
No matter what the opposite sex promotes in the other, the opposite is often the better choice. Men are better inclined to turn alpha rather than listen to beta propaganda. Same holds true for women, they are much better served on holding a lid on their vaginas.
For men both options will have consequences. If women opt to become immense sluts there will be no point to relationships anymore. Women shoot themselves in the foot and the nuclear family dissolves due to their own mental illness. Should women all became virtuous again, then men are once again constrained to less pussy.
Which means that the best solution is to promote both. Remember that women do this to, they promote beta behavior while rewarding alpha behavior covertly. This ensures the best of both worlds come to her. The same is true for men. You should always promote sluttish behavior while rewarding virtuous behavior in your plates.
And for the love of god don't forget the low value sluts have.
Catch11 7y ago
You care way too much bro, just lift weights and find a passion and stop obsessing over chicks. My attitude in life is "they should be trying to game me and get my genetics, not the other way around"
StoicCrane 7y ago
The Male Imperative is the only one worth promoting. Society is built on the backbone of male ingenuity and innovation. Our potential as men is infinitely greater than that of women. Countless civilizations have risen to greatness under patriarchal influence. No society geared to promoting the interests of women have ever withstood the test of time.
As for betraying your son or daughter your daughter is the obvious choice. As a female she has social convention and legal backing on her side your son literally has nothing but the prospect of becoming a simpering Beta wimp and an aimless life of no direction should he be abandoned. Choose wisely.
BlacknOrangeZ 7y ago
Women are in for a rude shock when their sugar daddy government runs out of men's money.
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BlacknOrangeZ 7y ago
You really think they'll be that bold? I loathe the system but I can at least give it credit for being good at what it does; I don't think they would ever risk the stability by directly enslaving men in such a way that it could lead to a widespread awakening.
It just struck me that this phenomenon (ie. tolerance of it) is the greatest argument in favour of homosexuality being a natural trait, not a choice. Because otherwise all the quality young men would have chosen to run off John Galt-ing it in peaceful, prosperous, hedonistic homo communes.
newName543456 7y ago
They can frame it as benefits for married only. Of course non-single people will pay for it as well, but won't be getting it.
[deleted] 7y ago
Never knew why guys get bent outta shape over sluts.
Use them. And if you happen to stumble on that one unicorn that isn't, good on you.
[deleted] 7y ago
I think many a man here had what they thought was a unicorn, and upon further analysis what they had was a raging slut that was deceiving them. This might explain part of the hang up.
Also, if you are over 30, pretty much all women near your age that have never been married are sluts. So, they likely get tired of meeting slut after slut while they are looking for something more than a casual relationship.
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So the obvious solution is to date younger.
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newName543456 7y ago
That's not entirely correct.
It is imperative to APPEAR sex-positive on the outside as much as possible. What you think internally is your business. But if it's different, don't let it show.
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BluestBlackBalls 7y ago
No one seems to consider that we are — possibly —just vessels for gene propagation and that as long as humans propagate, all these points are moot.
[deleted] 7y ago
exactly, i was thinking about this the other day. nature doesn't give a fuck about anything else besides your dick going into a pussy and jizzing. everything else is shit humans made up revolving around customs and rules they imposed on themselves.
logicalthinker1 7y ago
Of course we are. But the curveball is that people are smart enough to realize this. Your dog doesn't know about gene propagation. It just knows it wants to fuck bitches.
BluestBlackBalls 7y ago
Then why does it matter as whether or not the family unit — both nuclear and extended — are done away with? Do the ends not justify the means?
logicalthinker1 7y ago
because the family unit is best for raising children.
BluestBlackBalls 7y ago
But do children reared outside the prototypical family structure fail to reproduce?
[deleted] 7y ago
You can't just write off the concept of happiness because we have a primary biological function.
[deleted] 7y ago
well the concept of happiness isn't something nature gives a fuck about. it cares about spreading its species through fucking.
BluestBlackBalls 7y ago
I am willing to bet people find happiness on biological functions.
Is not love — via oxytocin, dopamine and serotonin — a biological function; an extension of peer bonding and a promotion of coupling?
Do you not find joy in busting nuts? Though crude, the majority of use stick with the Rhetoric because of the initial success — and implicit joy felt — from applying Game/Frame to our sexual benefit.
efrp 7y ago
The average man on TRP is deeply inflamed by the idea that some small percentage of men are fuckin 30 girls/yr while he's barely surviving with just 5 - 6, if that.
The average man on TRP needs to remember that it's precisely the sexual liberation of women that has allowed him to score a lifetime notch count of 20, 30, 50+ while the average man in countries where this has not occurred must get by with just 3-4 in a lifetime.
Say what you will about women's lib, I'd hands down take my chances here than in some sexually repressed culture like India or some Middle Eastern country.
throwawayredc 7y ago
Middle eastern men come to the west and take advantage of naive white girls while keeping their women under lock and key. Its disgusting. And don't be surprised if white men start calling you out for this bullshit
efrp 7y ago
Oh agreed 100%. But the reason they have to do this is because they're hypocritical and their women are really oppressed. So sex is really, really difficult to obtain for a lot of guys. So you've made my point, really - when women are liberated and freer to fuck around, everyone gets more sex.
Granted, I'm not claiming that this is best for society, merely pointing out that in a subreddit where most everyone is obsessed with fucking as many women as possible, liberated women are much better than oppressed women.
adam-l Endorsed Contributor 7y ago
I totally agree with you. I think that feminism, although still a bad deal for men, is better than traditionalism (virginity, almost obligatory marriage etc), which was the apex of female power.
sierratangovictor 7y ago
One more question though:
See, the betrayal to the son is the moment we ask him to not rape a woman. In the wild, sex is basically Rape. So If we are to respect the daughters primal desire to be hypergamous. then we should let the son rape around as well.
However, neither should we do that, nor do do we need to.
I do not see, putting things under slight check is a betrayal - I see that as development .
However, I would like to ask you - Why do you call this a betrayal?
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rape certainly isn't humans natural way of breeding. humans lived in tribes, and if any man was going around raping whatever woman he wanted, he'd have to deal with her father, relatives, and brothers, who all lived in the same tribe. needless to say, they'd be brutally punished.
sierratangovictor 7y ago
I'm certain that the dealing with father/relative ... stuff came much later in agraian societies. And until then, the early hominids were more likely to be opportunistic, where the alpha hits the chick in the head, and bangs her, and the beta grabs the opportunity.
I read somewhere that the early deposited ejaculate of a human male in the same vaginal tract has enzymes that protects the sperms, while the later contains enzymes that slows the sperms of the previous one down - so it really seem an opportunistic game that drove the human / hominid breeding. Under these considerations, it seems obvious, that the alpha just raped the woman, while the betas raped the resting woman after alpha has taken its bite.
I believe, it was rape in a sense, that sex didnt need consent form the woman.
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or maybe gang bangs like certain apes and shit do, idk.
adam-l Endorsed Contributor 7y ago
Interesting point.
In order to clarify things, we need to take into account that protection, which is a given for women nowadays, and has been for millennia, is not a natural order of things. It is a fundamental parameter of the relationship between the sexes that, as men need to "buy" sex from women by providing, women need to "buy" protection from men, by, well, fucking.
Large-scale organized societies tax men in order to maintain armed bodies (police, courts) that protect the propertied classes and women for free.
So, before we consider full rape as a male sexual strategy, there is plenty of space to consider the sex-for-protection exchange. Women would have sex with a not-desirable male, if he could provide protection against sex with an even less desirable one. But when this capacity of men is expropriated by the social order, the average man is pretty much fucked.
As for the use of betrayal, it is exactly this. Women do betray their sons. Men are very reluctant to "betray" their daughters, and this leads to a female-primary society, which practically means a society of violence - which betrays, ultimately, everyone.
Male-centered society = free sex = peace.
Female-centered society = controlled sexual market = violence.
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igottennispenis 7y ago
I'm not OP but I was wondering about this too, at least the daughter part. As I understand it, favoring the female sexual strategy betrays your son by teaching him to be a beta, essentially - unless he's top 20% of men, in which case the female strategy mostly turns him into a literal stud. In either case, the male becomes a beast of burden.
victor_knight 7y ago
They can say whatever they want; if I don't agree, the sex isn't going to happen.
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I.e. Enjoy the decline. Words I live by
PillDragon 7y ago
Yes. Change what you don't accept, but more importantly accept what you can't change. You're too small, and too insignificant to devote your life to changing this environment. And if you do succeed to any degree your time is too limited to enjoy the fruits. Rather spend it studying the world with your RP glasses on, and then conquer it.
theONE843663 7y ago
I cried from reading this shit. But might just be whiskey tears tho. Yep... Definitely the whiskey tears.
Mckallidon 7y ago
It's okay. Crying makes jerking off way more pleasurable. At least for me.
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Affini7y 7y ago
Outstanding. Hitting the nail right on the head here
Mckallidon 7y ago
What stocks do you recommend buying?
[deleted] 7y ago
Lol. Even if I had good ones, the smart play would be not listening to me
Mckallidon 7y ago
My plan was to dump those lol.
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Atuli 7y ago
I love everything about this.
So many doom and gloom posts on here about how all women are broken sluts etc.
Like it's a bad thing modern women are sexually liberated.
vengefully_yours 7y ago
It's a bad thing of you want to be married, have multiple kids, and live by a moral code that came from religion. If you want to fuck sluts and don't care about keeping one or having 20 fuck trophies, then it's a great time to be alive.
The drawback is that it requires effort for us to get laid. Lifting, building ourselves and our lives, approaching, gaming, learning, and it appears that all girls need to do is not be fat and be available. However, we continue to improve (or have the capability to do so) over the course of 70 years. They have only until about 30 to cash in on their looks and tight holes. We can be so much more, they are mainly playthings and carnal amusement.
On the plus side, they can now support themselves rather than trapping us into doing it for them. We have the choice to support her or not. Sure you can choose to do it, and you'll likely end up paying for another man to fuck her, but you can trade them in as they become unattractive and get a newer better looking one to fuck for a while.
Hottstud 7y ago
I don't think I'll ever give up the a 20%er lifestyle.
vengefully_yours 7y ago
Same here. I prefer being single and having friends with benefits.
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why would u WANT to be married? sometimes i feel like men's rights circles forget the fact that marriage is horrible regardless of marrying a slut or a virgin. fucking the same girl for 40 years sounds fucking horrible, i thought that since i was 13. i dont get why men even care that marriage is no longer viable cause more sluts. would you want to get married and fuck one girl your whole life? why?
ok i know you're gonna reply kids. cool. but marriage has always been a cold business deal relationship throughout most of human history. it was never about love and disney bullshit. you're supposed to marry a girl for purely economic and business arrangement reasons, and maybe even social structure and political/power alliance reasons depending on what time period you lived in, raise some kids, and thats it. they never expected to love or want to fuck eachother for most of their lives, it was what it was. now that we dont need those kind of arrangements anymore, what is the point of marriage? sure there is kids but i have no answer as to how that is supposed to work.
vengefully_yours 7y ago
You and I agree on this. Fuck marriage. I'll go one father, fuck commitment too.
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OmegaMan2 7y ago
I personally think we're headed for a Bronze Age style collapse, that is the total and complete obliteration of civilization as we know it.
I hope I'm wrong about this one.
Mckallidon 7y ago
I don't. Modern life is boring. Not that I want to impose anarcho-primitivism in others, it's not for everyone, but if you were wrong I wouldn't hold it against you.
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most of the people who think a return to primitive times will be exciting will be dead within a week. myself included, i dont know why romanticize it.
Mckallidon 7y ago
It gives me a boner just thinking about it.
hot-breakfast 7y ago
You might want to try living in Central Sudan. I suspect your boner will last about as long as it takes your plane to fly away. And yes, I have lived there.
Mckallidon 7y ago
Well, if I go in naked it will suck. If I bring my gear it will be like a video game actually worth playing. I have a ridiculous amount of ammo and many, many rifles and shotguns. I have enough .22 to last me my entire life alone. More 7.62NATO Than one man should own. As well as other essentials. A fuckton of life straws. Lots of canned food. If the shit comes to me I'm better off than 98% of anyone out there. Hashtag YOLO.
Hjalmbere 7y ago
"The cheaper sex is, the more men are favored, the more expensive sex is, the greater power women hold." - Maybe in the West, but there are a lot of sexually frustrated men in male dominated cultures where you are expected to pay dowry and where women are kept under lock and key.
efrp 7y ago
Exactly. Women's sexual liberation has been a boon for most guys as well, because on the whole, everyone, from the lowliest of betas on up, gets laid more than in places where women are kept covered up behind closed doors.
DysfunctionalBrother 7y ago
Tell that to the accident kids that are born to these liberated girls when they have no Dad and a shitty Mother. Contraception unfortunately is not always perfect and women have more control over it than men so she may tell you she's on the pill or has an implant, but has she?
Their are pros and cons to both arrangements i guess, but if i had to choose i don't know what would be better to be honest.
[deleted] 7y ago
You're forgetting about the 80/20 rule. Most women want an alpha (or what looks, to them, in their circles, to be an alpha). Maybe the lowliest of betas gets lucky once or twice. But getting an N-count >5? Takes a modicum of self-respect
efrp 7y ago
Alphas in the west can easily rack up 100+ notches in a lifetime (without relying on money or fame), but an average beta joe with serial monogamy and a decent social circle can still get 20+ in a lifetime, which isn't bad at all. TRPers get mad that they're not alpha, but keep in mind the comparison: guys in sexually repressed countries like India and places in the Middle East, where you're lucky if you can get to 8-9 in a whole lifetime. Most will probably fuck just 1-3 women at the most before goin to their graves. I think it's sad, actually.
I'm short, brown and my N-count is already > 20, just in the past 5 years. Not crazy high or brag worthy by any means, but not something I'm ashamed of either.
I don't even want to think about the damage a well off, good looking dude in NYC does. If you're tall+white and aren't a total retard, you can clean up every weekend in this town.
Point being: women's sexual lib has made it possible for them to have sex much more freely, which in the aggregate has been great for guys in the west as well.
[deleted] 7y ago
that is a greatly exaggerated rule for people who don't leave the house and witness reality with their own eyes. tons of average looking betaish males are fucking 5/10s and up, while drunk. men aren't the only ones that lower their standards for a one night stand. if you literally think no one is getting laid besides chads, you need to go out more. in male dominated societies with harems, betas got nothing, and alphas got 30 wives.
adam-l Endorsed Contributor 7y ago
There is no male dominated culture, and has been none, for several thousands of years. All known cultures are female-primary.
There are cultures where the general economic and social situation is pretty shitty, and in these, if you are female, it is infinitely preferable to be protected in a house, than have to earn your living through shitty work.
In Islamist cultures, for example, female power has been so great that men were forced to take a woman as a wife without even having a look at her. The Burqa was only removed after the marriage.
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PsychosisSundays 7y ago
That's a fascinating take on things. How do women enforce their dominate in these Islamic societies?
adam-l Endorsed Contributor 7y ago
It is not really different from the West, imo. For example, there is now, that economy is in a crisis and "self-actualization" through work has lost its shining, a trend for women, especially those highly educated, to return to home.
Women have always balanced their need for freedom with their want for an easy life.
PsychosisSundays 7y ago
Gotcha - women want to stay in the home in both the West and traditional Islamic societies. But how, IYO, do women bring about the conditions they desire in Islamic societies when they're disenfranchised from political power and required to stay at home? And a further question would be how is Islamic law, aside from allowing women to stay home and the prescription of the burka, favourable to women? What's their logic behind requiring four witnesses to a rape in order to get a conviction, or being stoned to death for being raped or committing adultery? Why do these women encourage a conception of familial honour that requires their male relatives to kill them if they appear to be unchaste?
adam-l Endorsed Contributor 7y ago
Find and download "Anatomy of Female Power", it has a great discussion of the female ways of power in traditional cultures, and how they differ from the male one.
Regarding rape: in every country, traditionalist or not, there are rapes and there are "rapes". Considering the fact that rape is the #1 female fantasy, "rapes" are more. Cases, that is, where a woman enjoys the act while disowning all responsibility for it. Her fellow "sisters", in places where the female control of female sexuality is very tight, as is in Islamic countries, are aware of this fact, and are not prepared to let her off the hook easily for giving it up just for her pleasure, driving down the price of vagina. That's why women over there are often more relentless against their "raped" co-women, so much so that cases of actual rapes, undeservedly, suffer from their overreaction.
PillDragon 7y ago
Fucking brilliant read. It's 4am where I'm at right now, I couldn't sleep, and usually reddit at such a juncture is a bad idea, but this was excellent.
xx69bootyhunter69xx 7y ago
Bro, if you're on PC, google f.lux-it's a good software that filters out the blue light out of your screen; blue light is primary cause of damage to your eyes and sleep deprivation. If you're going to use electronic devices with a screen at night, at least do it with minimal possible damage.
Also, if you're on Android, search for 'Blue Light Filter' on play store. Don't let insomnia deprive you of your sleep and more importantly of your natural testosterone.
PillDragon 7y ago
Done downloading the android app. Neat little thing which will prove really useful in the long run. Thanks a lot, bro.
theONE843663 7y ago
Yo make a post about F.lux and twilight on Android. This shit deserves a whole new high quality post. Maybe I'll do it lol.
sierratangovictor 7y ago
Thank you for writing this !!
Honestly, I wish everyone in this and related subs would think this clear and this straight.
Your articulation is completely clean of the intention to maximize personal sexual profit, but rather focused on long term global solution. That is an excellent read.
I am all for it.
Gawernator 7y ago
But what about raising our own children and having a family? The nuclear family is surely the best environment for this..... so many conflicting thoughts ...
Overall I agree with OP. You always want to think your gf/wife/daughter are these symbols of virtue and the sluts are all out in the wild.
BluestBlackBalls 7y ago
May I suggest that you start lurking at the married TRP subreddit as well as focus on LTR Frame and Game.
Gawernator 7y ago
Yeah. I've been in a LTR over a year. Did the side chick thing. Not sure what I want anymore
whatsazipper 7y ago
It is, but it requires a society that enforces it. That doesn't exist anymore.
Gawernator 7y ago
Yeah I agree. But what are we left with now
whatsazipper 7y ago
Less stability, and a false sense of freedom.
Sinikal12 7y ago
It's more accurate to say the illusion of freedom is waning.
adam-l Endorsed Contributor 7y ago
Not many reasons for a man to have children, nowadays.
Also, check out this for some radically new fundamental ideas on reproduction.
-Adam
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BluestBlackBalls 7y ago
tl;dr: I ask simply this, how can you appraise the value someone else places one their child?
Sadly the Original Post has been removed; though I will blindly assume that your soap box was the Veneration of Individualism.
I make this assumption based on the — generally — individualistic cultural rearing Western Society is founded up, wherein subjective experiences colour one's reality as well as cognitive — truly, logical — processes. That is, we are taught to concern ourselves with me. Generation I am Me as it were.
Back to the Veneration of Individualism.
But with all the aforementioned having been laid out, the third point — in relation to having a kid — is perhaps one that the majority of us, at least on this board, will have a torrid time trying to understand. For without the experience of child rearing, we are men born blind attempting to explain the colour purple to a machine that sees colour merely as electromagnetic events; photons; pockets of
energyinformation.
I dare say, appraisal is but information romanticised. I digress.
Suffice it to say that I recognise how cultural conditioning dictates the degree to which an individual wishes and desires to have a child:
It is nevertheless ludicrous to attempt to subject the Subjective to Objective scrutiny. These rationalisations fail to account for the value we place on our romantic ideals. I ask simply this, how can you appraise the value someone else places one their child?
Be this prior to having a child or after. Be this wishful thinking or a coping mechanism. Idealism or Self-Delusion.
Note: I have deliberately refrained from making mention of unintentional births, for I believe that the majority of us are 'mistakes' but do not wish for my faith to colour the discussion.
adam-l Endorsed Contributor 7y ago
That's so strange... I'm probably the bearer of the most collectivist ideology you can find in here, and yet you talk about individualism.
As I see it, individualism is about defense, in an age that men are clearly disadvantaged. Collectivism is about offense. Individualism is the first, necessary step, but in no way adequate for a satisfying solution en masse.
BluestBlackBalls 7y ago
Interesting, I view Collectivism as defense, in that it is a means of ensuring the propagation of sone status quo. Principally as a way to ensure that what ever position the Collective holds is defended.
The Individual falling between offence & defence; publicly defensive primarily by being non-engaging with Collective thought while simultaneously taking an offensive stance to Collective thought in private. This assumes the matters at hand prove disadvantageous to the Individual.
sd4c 7y ago
It's real fun having your tax dollars taken away and given to raise other guy's kids
[deleted] 7y ago
Meh, still able to either go to the underground economy like many men checking out of the labour force, or still live well after taxes.
Cost of hypergamy,
BluestBlackBalls 7y ago
Then have multiple one night stands that lead to multiple kids. Bail and have them raise on welfare. This way, some portion of your taxes will go towards raising 'your' kids.
Or emigrate to a tax haven.
Or realise that your taxes are simply to minuscule to provide you a leg to stand on when bashing people on welfare, corporate tax eclipses you perhaps a hundred folds, lest you be one of this sub's mythical multi-billionaires.
Or I could simplify my post and simply say: boohoo. What are you, a bitcher or a man? If the latter, fond s way to reduce your taxes!
kevin32 7y ago
For those who want to see this in dialog form.
igottennispenis 7y ago
I fail to see how male contraception will make any meaningful change. If anyone can point out where I'm wrong, please do so! Contraception was a seismic cultural shift because it nearly eliminates a biological check on female hypergamy, not because of which gender administers it. In other words, even if a pill is invented for men, women still have the pussy.
Sex robots, on the other hand, have the real power to tip the scales and return to a more equitable equilibrium. They are the antidote to feminism. This is an appropriate point to note that many antidotes are poisonous in their own right, killing the body if the original poison is not present.
Wouldn't you say sex is much cheaper today than, say, 1905? Of course there was prostitution then, but sex in a culture where people who wish to be upstanding have to largely abstain from premarital sex seems much more "expensive" (in the SMV sense, of course) than logging onto Tinder and finding plate #4. I'll assume you'll answer in the affirmative, which leads me to my next question: Would you say men or women have more power in the sexual marketplace today?
logicalthinker1 7y ago
All it does is protect men from unplanned pregnancies. Women love using a child as an excuse to lock you down. Male contraception means that men no longer need to worry about this. Women can no longer "forget" to take their pill and whoops, they're pregnant.
Men take back control.
igottennispenis 7y ago
That's true, I meant to include that bit but forgot it when I typed up the initial response. Absolutely, no more "oops I thought I took it", maybe it will reverse some things in the family courts, who knows. Male birth control, though, doesn't fundamentally change sexual dynamics the way female birth control (or simply "birth control," including condoms) does. Men weren't getting pregnant before, they won't be after. Women, on the other hand, can express their hypergamous nature and dictate the consequences. Besides the exceptions you listed, what does the pill for men change that condoms and the pill for women haven't already?
logicalthinker1 7y ago
Great points.
It's just another step in the right direction. The more control men have over sex, the less control women have. And I think a lot of men are starting to realize, "wait a second, there's nothing special about my girl. Why should I put up with her shit? There's other girls who are looking for sex right now."
When women had traditional values, they didn't offer up sex like it was nothing. You had to put in work. Now, even in our pussified world, it's easier than ever. And we're starting to remove the consequences of sex? Yeah, it's about to get even sluttier.
OilyB 7y ago
My opinion:
Male contraception will relieve many women of taking care of contraception. For many female pill users this will mean a lot more free flowing hormone balance(less balance, more horniness between periods), because the pill suppresses the female libido in large part.
Less female pill users = more horniness = more sex needed by women = price of sex drops
More male pill users = less forced marriages, less 'oops babies' and less financial responsibility for men.
Let the games begin.
igottennispenis 7y ago
Okay, good points, hadn't thought of any of that! I wonder, though, what effect hormonal changes in men will have on all of this.
OilyB 7y ago
Idk, we'll have to find out.
[deleted] 7y ago
Wait, most men came here because they have trouble getting laid, but still complain about women being too slutty?
deathhand 7y ago
Men do not come here because they have trouble getting laid. Men come here because they feel like something is "off" towards how we were raised(mostly by single mothers or weak father figures) versus what actually goes on in the world in terms of mate selection.
efrp 7y ago
I doubt very much that this subreddit is frequented by men getting as much sex as they'd like, or even anywhere close to it. Sure, there's some small percentage that has no problem getting action, but most are probably no better than the average guy anywhere else when it comes to pulling pussy.
[deleted] 7y ago
i thought it was a sexual strategy sub?