I just saw this on yahoo, while I'm inclined to think this is made up, most of us know it's all too real.
DEAR ABBY: I’m in love with my boyfriend, and we’re about to move to a huge college town.
We’ve been dating two years and I want him to be my husband, but at the same time I want to live life. I’m not even 21 yet, and I haven’t experienced life.
I want to go to a bar or club and dance with whomever I want, maybe even have a hookup if it were to come down to it. I have never had a one-night stand and I don’t think I would, but if it came down to it — who knows!
I don’t want to hurt him, but I want him to be happy. He’s happy with me and I’m happy with him. What do I do? How do I tell him I’d like freedom to be a ho? — NEED TO EXPERIENCE LIFE
DEAR NEED TO EXPERIENCE LIFE: Explain to your boyfriend exactly the way you have described it to me, and if he is like 99 percent of the men on this planet, your problem will be solved. “Ho-Ho-Ho!”
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Women want to treat men like purses. Women want to have a purse while continuing to purse shop. They can do this as an open secret when they claim the right to be in a relationship yet still hang around other men alone etc. We have fallen so low that women expect to do this openly and for their boyfriends to not raise a fuss.
Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 7y ago
It's coming. The idea is already prevalent -- women want to be able to have sex with whoever they want, while still retaining the commitment of a particular man. And they want this to be okay. Even normal.
One-way polygamy is going to become prevalent in our lifetimes. Even normal. Feminism will declare that marriage is an archaic and outdated institution that was used by insecure patriarchs to enslave women and control their sexuality. And that "relationships" are just a slightly lesser form of female slavery. That if you really love a woman, then you won't try to use marriage or a relationship to "control" her. Your marriage/relationship should be about love and about starting a family, not about controlling her sexuality.
It's "unhealthy" that your happiness in a relationship stems from restrictions you impose on her sexuality. That's evil patriarchy. Instead, you should be happy when she's happy, and she's happiest when she's free to express her sexuality however she wants. You should be happy being the man she comes home to. And if she comes home pregnant, all the better, because you married her to start a family, right? Not to control her sex. And now you'll get that family.
garlicextract 7y ago
It will in my lifetime; but not in my life.
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Marriage had two purposes. One was every guy gets a woman. Two, more importantly Women with wealthy husbands don't want to share the wealth. They will tolerate some side chicks if they get to be queen, but the bastards get nothing.
Archterus 7y ago
Seen this play out so many times. Generations of weak mean brainwashed by the femcentric zeitgeist. Just this weak learnt of a young man at my gym, married young to girl with a serious disease. Has child, gets up at night to look after said kid to give wifey a rest. Looks after kid when she wants to go out. Then she declares that he has locked her down, stolen her best years and she wants strange cock. Sure baby, whatever makes you happy makes me happy. Off she goes to the CC. Next move, he is kicked out, more resentment from her about how he has limited her freedom. Sure baby, I understand, can we have some counselling?
Of course all the while she is parading around the town like a hooker, proclaiming they are still friends.
Time and time again. The legacy of the cancer that is feminism and beta males
Good post OP.
CornyHoosier 7y ago
Marriage will be archaic soon enough, there is no going back. The sooner people adapt to this idea the better off they'll be.
For men there is almost no upside when a woman can divorce you and take half your assets as well as your children. Add to that, a lot of women are clearly not content with a single spouse. If neither side are happy with the social arrangement then it will fail.
I expect marriage to fail and for a "bachelor tax" to soon follow.
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I expect men to riot in the streets over a bachelor tax. Not that it doesn't already exist with the "marriage tax deductions," which are complete and utter bullshit.
Short-changedChad 7y ago
Myself and a very close friend are both heterosexual and RP aware. The day the bachelor tax comes, we will both be down at the civil registry to be married to one another.
When they ask for proof of homosexual marriages being consumated... That's when the riots start.
evoblade 7y ago
Actually there is a marriage penalty if you both work. Some couples are avoiding marriage because of that
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CornyHoosier 7y ago
I agree. Though again ... marriage is dying and will die. Our society needs to begin looking for new alternatives.
plenkton 7y ago
Marriage is only dying because women get the benefit without paying the cost. Hold them liable to the cost and they will be better wives.
p00pey 7y ago
Marriage will go away about as soon as the belief in the imaginary spaghetti monster in the sky goes away. The parallels are absolutely scary. At the end of the day, those in power want to control the masses. And most people are sheep. 'Society' tells them how to live their lives, and that same society shames them when they stray. Doesn't matter how little upside men have in marriages. People will continue to marry, because it's what their parents did, because it's what the church tells them to do, because pussy control breaks men down, etcetcetc. I wouldn't hold my breath on marriage ending soon. In rich western countries, I think more and more people will opt out, but for the rest of the world, it'll be the same cycle repeating itself, that is until mankind wipes itself out, which is also coming soon. Not like 2 years from now soon, but pretty soon, relatively speaking...
CornyHoosier 7y ago
We're seeing a huge rise in single-parent households and rise in non-religious Americans. I don't see how those "traditions" can survive if they're on the rapidly declining side of things.
I can't really concern myself with the rest of the world when talking about TRP as we're almost exclusively Western culture here.
p00pey 7y ago
It's not about what you concern yourself with. Most of what is described in TRP is related to instinctual behavior, what turns women on, what makes them want betas to support them, etc. That is universal, with slight variations based on cultures.
But even if we get into western culture, or even just America, this viepoint is skewed. You do realize most of middle america is bible thumping, god loving, get married when you're young and stay with your man people. I'm in NY, so the vibe is very different, has been long before I was born. But if you're in middle america, and you are checking out of the matrix and believe marriage to be useless, I can assure you you're in the minority.
I mean even look at all these rich fucks and celebrities adn what not. These morons can't wait to get married. x months/years later, divorce rape, lose half your shit, and idiot is walking down the isle 18 months later after a 9 month 'whirlwind romance.' Rinse/repeat.
I sincerely hope marriage fades away, even if only in the western world. But outside of Japan, which is such a weird culture sexually and otherwise, I just don't see it happening.
Same as people can't understand that there's no god up there in the sky controlling everything down here. You have any idea how much better the world would be without the concept of religion? We'd be a 1000 years ahead, and probably wouldn't be killing each other. But the people in power need the sheep to believe in religion, and marriage, and work like sheep so the rich can get richer, etcetcetc. Their control over the sheep is far stronger than you give it credit...
Again, I sincerely hope things change, but I doubt it greatly, and most certainly not in our lifetimes...
KnocksEmUp 7y ago
Just wondering, are you saying that marriage is now fading away in Japan? More rapidly than in the West? That would be interesting news for me.
p00pey 7y ago
yup. Google it. Their population is dwindling, because people won't get married. They won't even try to fuck each other. Some really weird cultural shit is going on over there.
Apparently it's easy pickings for foreigners, well probably not all foreigners, but white boys from America are most likely cleaning up. But yeah, google that shit, some really interesting stuff going on there, not just with marriage but sex in general...
HomoSapiensNemesis 7y ago
Your hypothesis hinges on Men simply going along with it.
Fat chance. Men want monogamy. Its deeply rooted in our psyches; an evolved response to make sure that the females we strived for and acquired produced our offspring.
Sure, there will be beta cucks, and the odd few males who are ok with sex being an entirely casual thing. But there's no fucking way the majority of guys are going to share their resources and time - much less take on the legal risks of relationships - without the Carrot of monogamy and commitment as a reward.
NietzscheExplosion 7y ago
Men want polygamy and 80% settle for monogamy.
verify_account 7y ago
Our evolutionary programing disagrees.
HomoSapiensNemesis 7y ago
Fine, you're right - perhaps fidelity is a better word. A guarantee that the offspring she raises is yours.
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I agree with this completely. Notice marriage rates falling? The more this behavior in women comes to light the less guys are even dating let alone getting married. And what do the fucking women do? They just make marriage even worse of a deal making less men commit.
It will end up with women having at best 'open' relationships with a cucked boyfriend, likely it will just be the vast majority of women 'spinning plates' until their looks fade and they get cats. Men will not accept this. Many men crave something stable and women are offering it even less.
Gadnuk_ 7y ago
I heard a story about this on NPR recently, less Americans aged 18-34 are married now than ever in recorded history. Also, more 18-34 year olds live with parents than with a romantic partner. If you Google "pew 18-34 year olds" it's the first link that comes up.
"This turn of events is fueled primarily by the dramatic drop in the share of young Americans who are choosing to settle down romantically before the age of 35." (Women ride the carousel, beta bux majority wait patiently for the carousel to stop so they can collect the scraps, and alphas opt out)
The marriage rate has been in decline since 1960, and most dramatically since 1990. Coincidence?
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Child support started in the 50's, followed soon by birth control kicking off the 'sexual revolution' where women could just fuck anyone they wanted with no consequence. It's not a coincidence. We should've put the hippies down before they spread back when we had the chance.
TheReformist94 7y ago
Women are the gatekeepers of commitment.its men who desire monogamy,not women. Women have been freed from the dungeon of marriage,and they're actually happy with it,just not when their options dry up.a woman is happy getting pumped and dumped whilst cucking a beta. Also,with the term pump n dumped you're assuming commitment.I assure you a lot of women don't want commitment even from alphas. They can get their "stability" from a beta.
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What are you on? Guys are the gatekeepers of commitment, women are merely the gatekeepers of sex. Guys are simply giving out commitment too cheap nowadays and women are not required to do as much to earn it thanks to current social engineering. You got several things off. Also women cannot be too overt about fucking around and still have 'stability' unless they are out and out in an 'open' relationship and that is still a rare thing to see guys accepting that, tons of stories around of heart-broken betas who still have the balls to end it once they learn cheating happened.
HomoSapiensNemesis 7y ago
Indeed. That's why I believe there can only be one outcome.
Given that men - not women - are the backbone and drive of society - they will set the standard. They're the ones with all the resources, all the power, all the strength - all the cards.
Women, if they want that, will need to meet whatever standard men set.
It may take some time, and yeah, it'll get worse before it gets better, but the reality will become pretty stark for women. That said, there are many factors, including the States' support for women. So long as the legal system provides women with surrogate means of siphoning resources from men, this kind of behaviour will continue.
The best thing men can do is wrap their tool, keep women at arm's length, and have a good lawyer.
garlicextract 7y ago
fixed that for you - also you claim men 'are the backbone... of society'... well that is quite contingent on the individual having a backbone. Look around and see how many people that is the case...
HomoSapiensNemesis 7y ago
When I say backbone, this is what I mean:
https://i.sli.mg/zb2VZ1.png
Overkillengine 7y ago
And have as little taxable income as possible; starve the beast into submission.
slay_it_forward 7y ago
The only power women have is that given to them by men. If we wanted to stick them in cages tomorrow it would be done.
ramaga 7y ago
Years ago, a woman started hooking up with another guy all while professing her undying love for me and how much she wanted to be with me forever and ever, amen. When confronted, she told me the other guy was just for fun but that her heart belonged to me. I literally laughed in her face and nexted her on the spot. She still calls/texts/emails me from time to time. I just delete the messages without listening to them or reading them.
The weird thing is I think she genuinely expected me to be okay with this.
markstachow 7y ago
I was in a 3.5 year relationship and my gf was cheating on me the whole time and sort of thought I'd never leave her, while using drinking as an excuse. She slept with 2 of my friends and god knows what else during the 3.5 years. The end came when we went to a bar together and she got drunk, tried to sleep with 3 guys that night, one being an old flame, who was married. I asked her that week, why do you keep cheating on me. Her reply was, maybe because I don't love you enough to stop. It was over then... BECAUSE that actually meant. She is blaming me for not making her love me enough. She can't actually accept the guilt or blame and put it all on me. A woman like that will never be happy and never could have loved me. It wasn't until that very moment everything was clear. It's hard to see what's going on when you think you love someone and they keep telling you crying the next day they made a mistake, they will change, please don't quit on them. The truth is, there's no mistake, there's only selfishness and manipulation to feed her addiction of using sex and drinking as a drug to feel good about herself. The love she had for me was only like a parasite loves it's host. I was there for her when the entire fantasy of being wanted disappeared and she depend on me to be there and feed off my health, which was slowly killing me. As a reward I got to have sex, which was only keeping me enslaved. The sex had gotten to the point she was just going through the motions and when she was actually drunk those nights hitting on other men, she would actually tell me to fuck off in bed. Which was not the reward I was looking for after going through all of that the nights it happened, but that was her "true" self coming out. I'm glad I got to see it all and in the process learned more about love and myself. I think it's important to see things out to the end, so you can grow as a person, have no regrets, and realize you did everything you could. I don't regret the 3.5 years together and looking back, it wasn't all bad. I do feel great sadness for her, because she will never take responsibility for her own actions and life. The last boyfriends or guys she's seen that didn't work out, she told me, because they weren't manly enough or too jealous, or she was too hot for them. The problem is always their fault, BECAUSE they failed to make her love them enough. It's an endless void to try and fill sadly, which only has been leading her down more drinking, one night stands, binge eating, throwing up (eating disorders), feeling more highs and lows, and using sex and drinking as a drug to cure herself. After all this and the promises again of getting better once she told me that and broke up with me, because "maybe she didn't love me enough to stop". I stopped replying to her texts and went no contact, which was the best thing to do. She started texting more over time, trying to "see if I was okay" and "if I was HAPPY". That ACTUALLY means, she's checking to see if I'm still there for her to fall back on because the fantasy of sleeping with young guys in their 22s has worn off that night, she's empty again, and she bragged to her friends about her wild story, and completely lonely with nothing again. I am NOT there for her and time has only provided much needed clarity over everything. Before we started dating I was on top of my physical health, to the point people tell me I could have anyone, why chose her? It was the sex, woman like this have a way of using it as a drug to hook you at first and that is their only real power. That wore off after a year and I was left with her going through the motions, which helped me to release her back into the wild. I get about 1 or 2 messages a week asking if I'm okay, or some random message that connected us in the past. I don't reply and never plan on doing so, because I've moved on and it's over. I spent the past 5 months after the breakup to regain all my health, back to where I was before we started dating, my mental health is coming back stronger after this ordeal and I actually know how to love now because of her. I know that sex isn't love and if she cheats on you, it's over because she never respected you. In a relationship between two people, if anyone ever cheats, get out now. The reason is because they NEVER respected you and NEVER WILL. It has nothing to do with you, it's because they have real issues, like low self-esteem. I wish the best for any guy or woman who has to go through this, but you will be stronger because of it eventually. The person who does these things is only hurting themselves and from what I've seen does not get better. It's okay to love and learn and better for my conscience not to use trickery or "TRP" mentality, because all of my actions were from my heart and intentions were honest. If I hadn't done so, it would have hurt me so much more looking back. A man can love as many times as he's allowed to let his heart be broken. My advice is to love and hopefully, even in a case like this, you touched them, so when they look back they realize they truly lost something special. You'll never know what the other person is truly thinking, but you know you're heart was true and when someone loved you that way, it left a forever impression. That's my story and some advice after going through it. I was limited to where I could meet girls at the time, because I had spent 8 years in Saudi Arabia, so it was always at a social "drinking" event behind embassy door or compounds. The only thing I will do now to improve my chances of meeting someone is not try to pick them up from a bar, which is sort of what I was forced to do, since dating was illegal in Saudi Arabia. The analogy is like being hungry and going to the trash for food. You know there's food in there and it won't be hard to find, you don't even have to cook or put any time into it, it's there waiting for you. So, you dig in and grab the most attractive piece of trash, hoping it nourishes you and takes away the hunger. You get sick as usual and promise to never do that again. That's what picking girls up at the bar is like, don't dig in the trash for the best looking piece of rotten food. Take the time to carefully select something from the GYM or Church. You may still get food poisoning, but it's not likely. I'm back in the USA now and love working on myself, sleeping easy at nights knowing I'm not being cheated on, and not looking for love, because if I focus on myself and live my personal legend, love will find me if it's meant to be.
evoblade 7y ago
She loved your support, money, emotional availability, and place to stay. She didn't love you.
markstachow 7y ago
That I 100% agree on. When someone tells you who they really are, you should believe them.
RP_Teacher 7y ago
And this will be fine for a subset of males who will not be trapped.
Even more girls will be 'caught in the emotion'. Even more girls will be plates.
We just have to stay strong and focus on ourselves.
AFPJ 7y ago
Civilization is sustained by channeling the impulses of men to benefit the collective. Our present civilization was built on the promise of "get a job / career & you'll get a woman who wants to take your dick and raise your kids in return": a social contract where a man benefits the society which in return gives him a woman to fulfill his goal of procreation.
Unraveling this social contract results in very dark times for everyone formerly involved.
Yeah, you'll be fine, for a bit ...but your society, your home, is under attack - and we are the supposed immune system. Choosing to act at your own peril would be retarded, but choosing to do nothing at all is equally foolish.
RP_Teacher 7y ago
I'll admit I don't have the answer yet. But in the short term (5-10 years) I'll seek it.
The current SJW and socialist climate doesn't feel like the right time to make lifelong commitments apart to oneself.
I can procreate for the next 35 years all being well. We have time to get it right, and it is vital that we do get it right.
AFPJ 7y ago
I agree there is some time, alas what I'm bringing forward is that inaction can be a fatal and irreversible mistake.
Kids are expensive - with or without a woman. 80-120K for a surrogate, plus eggs and hospital costs, plus raising the kid costs are quite hefty - it's going to be at least, AT THE VERY LEAST, 250K over 18 years and that's if family and friends help out. Unless you expect net worth increases in excess of 3K/mo, on paper even assuming a 100% divorce rape chance (which everyone sane should) and some hefty child support, you're still looking at relatively good costs.
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Exactly. I actually kind of like it to a certain extent because I don't want kids or marriage.
RP_Teacher 7y ago
I still haven't sorted in my head the kids thing. I've always wanted children.
I will not force an unfit mother on my children. And it seems more and more mothers will be unfit.
Bit of a catch 22.
trpbox 7y ago
As of now I don't want children - justifying it used to be very difficult until I realized that your contribution to the genetic lineage is halved every generation, which takes away from that being your "purpose" in life.
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PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
Usually if you take the patriarch role, it only matters to a certain extent. generally, they take your lead. You expect only what you know she can deliver, and if you keep a level of dread (as in act right, or I will replace you) and leadership enough to keep her from being a shitty mom...
it's why it's called hard mode, you're basically adding another dependant. This is also why vetting is important, because it's much easier to take 50% and bring it up to 100% than it is -20%
Besdies, most women are average, very few outliers. they've been capable mothers forever... just no one held them to task, made them act right.
melliescomingover 7y ago
A capable mother is very different from a good mother tho. I've seen a lot of western women swear they will never have a child, meet an Alpha who manages to change their mind (cause we know how fragile women's convictions are) and end up having his kid, and the result is a fucked up child with a terrible mother. And no amount of dread will turn a cold mean bitch into a good mom. It'll go some way, yes, but at the same time it's not fair on the kid or you. For this reason a lot of people aren't raised, they're dragged up.
[deleted] 7y ago
While I don't want kids, I do feel bad for men who do, for this reason. I mean there is the chance you have a kid with a woman, she cheats or gains a bunch of weight and you have no not good choices.
Stick with the marriage, or divorce her and be forced to pay a ton in alimony and child support. I mean my parents are married and it seems like it's always been good, but marriage back then is a lot different now.
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I'm just at the point of avoiding marriage all together. I don't even want kids. I just want some dogs and maybe a cat.
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[deleted] 7y ago
Well marriage used be something that was worth striving for. A partnership of sorts between a man and woman based on love and respect. Unfortunately, that's not how it is anymore. Especially with the amount of infidelity and divorces that happen, along with dead bedrooms and all that shit. It's not worth it.
I would rather pay for prostitutes once a week than get married and have kids. I mean in the long run, you probably come out financially, especially if the marriage option ends in divorce. There is also a lot less stress in the non marriage option.
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RP_Teacher 7y ago
Well, first I have spent my adult life educating myself in the pursuit of educating children. 6 years of teaching backed up with an M.Ed.
Second I come from a caring loving family of teachers. All have kids, huge network of support and experience. Loving and doting parents to be wonderful grandparents. My sister most recently has had 2 and they both adore their favourite uncle.
Third I have coached youth sports since the age of 16. I am a coach at world top 25 university part time.
I understand the STEM fields, the sporting arena and what it takes to be successful.
Actually come to think about it, most of the people here are highly accomplished or at least on the right track.
My life is nearly perfect. I'm here to make sure it doesn't get fucked by the wrong woman.
EpicLevelCheater 7y ago
Allow me to show you the door m'lady.
FiveLions 7y ago
Me big dumb baboon. Need woman to run life, need woman for cuckold, need woman for emotion, need woman to beat on, need woman to protect, need woman behind great man, need woman to belittle me, need woman for clean
RobertCarraway 7y ago
Glad you could join us. Speaking of unfit mothers...
Your post history suggests that you are a woman who has an ambiguous sexual polarity and a rather masculinized mind. The women at Red pill women would welcome you, should you ever decide to embrace your femininity (good luck with that).
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vagbutters 7y ago
IN THE WEST
Let's be clear, feminism is most prevalent to this capacity in the west. While it is undeniably spreading to all corners of the globe, you can reasonably find RP women right now elsewhere in the world, if you're willing to settle for this.
While it's tempting to knock up some HB8-9, the fact that she'd be a terrible mother, terrible wife who'd divorce you, etc. is just too much trouble for what it's worth.
i_forget_my_userids 7y ago
Bullshit. Whether you go live in a 3rd-world country or bring them here, AWALT. She may be cognizant that she's there for your money and if she fucks up it's gone, but she will not "love" you differently than one here.
vagbutters 7y ago
AWALT is true of all women, I'm not denying that, but if you think that a RP woman from Eastern Europe, Russia, South/East Asia is somehow NOT better than one raised here, then you're sorely mistaken.
It's not a matter of "love," it's a matter of a woman knowing her place in marriage, and in a society at large.
BlackHera 7y ago
Go the Cristiano Ronaldo route. Lab baby. no child support, no nagging bitch, and he raises his son the way he wants. Hell i may go this route.
troll16 7y ago
damn that would be badass, i could live out my dream of being a Jango/Bobba fett pair.
Imagine how badass that would be serious? I was always joking to my family about never getting married and only cloning myself to continue our lineage but now it looks like a possibility. Time to start saving up my monies!
omega_fat 7y ago
Have a mil or 2 to spend per baby. Great for people with Ronaldo level of wealth. Unrealistic for 99.9% of men.
MelodyMyst 7y ago
It doesn't cost nearly that much to hire a private surrogate. Hell, the money you spend on a wedding would probably cover getting a rent-a-womb.
dates_only_chinese 7y ago
A lot of East Asians girls still make pretty good partners though. Not all of them, and all the rules in the book still apply, but at least you're not fucked before you even begin.
my_sfw_alias 7y ago
I have dated many asian girls, and while I agree with you, it takes a certain mentality to leave everything you have ever known for dreams of material wealth in america. Once they hit nyc, they are just as entitled as the rest. Do you really want a mixed asian kid? Keanu Lightningcock at best.
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dates_only_chinese 7y ago
Of course mixed kids can be an issue for some people, including myself. I haven't made up my mind yet and won't need to anytime soon, but it's definitely a gamble your kid will have to live with the consequences of. Caucasian-asian girls tend to look very good, guys are a bit more risky I guess. But honestly I wouldn't care that much, especially if I at that point would live in say China.
I've also not given up all hope on white girls, it's just that the characteristics I am looking for in a person tend to be more prevalent in native Chinese girls.
The girls that come here kinda tend to polarize. Some see the "West" as real freedom where they can date freely far away from judgemental family. A Chinese fwb told me there isn't even a word for fwbs in Chinese. Others get kind of shocked and see everyone here as sluts/players that club every night. Think PhD students that only talk to other asians and play video games in their free time.
Not sure about America but in Europe, most that make it here are already wealthy.
BlackHera 7y ago
Dude White girls in the west are done. They all are entitled and more likely to cheat. I know it's good to have hope, but trust me, they are pump and dump material at best.
melliescomingover 7y ago
All women from all nationalities have their drawbacks. The stereotypes when it comes to foreign women are often true. American women are certainly bottom of the pile. Fat, entitled, lazy, manly, bad mothers, indoctrinated with feminist bullshit. Asian women are golddiggers and don't even try to hide it. Native Chinese women are the worst. In Chinese culture the woman controls all the finances and takes her husband's entire paycheck and it's hers to dole out accordingly.
Japanese-American girls are the most feminine out of all Asians. Certainly blow Chinese bitches out of the water. And they take much more care of themselves.
If you aren't into Asians there are always hot Slavic women who will cook and clean for you, but watch out for Russian women - they're sly, hard as nails and usually crazy. Russian men know they have ice in their veins. Thing is, everyone in Russia is married by 21 and these women are usually divorced or on the shelf for good reason i.e. their muzh found out she was a whore, psycho bitch, etc. If she can't find a Russian man that's a bad sign, cause Russia is an extremely patriarchal society and the men are RP as fuck.
garlicextract 7y ago
lol what? japanese women do the same thing that you said traditional chinese women do...
melliescomingover 7y ago
Not in my book. Japanese girls tend to take more pride in their appearance, know how to please, and have wealthier families to fall back on too. Mainland Chinese women are completely ratchet and unsophisticated in comparison. They behave like spoilt, loud, overgrown children and the feminine act is just that: an act. Insufferable sows.
Islander1776 7y ago
What's wrong with mixed race? I'm half asian XD not offended just curious of the reasoning.
my_sfw_alias 7y ago
Nothing wrong with you or anyone else. I am not literally hitler when it comes to race. I was shit on my entire childhood, and if I ever have kids (which I probably won't) my dream for them would be to have the life I never did, taller, more handsome, more athletic, and avoid the torment of my youth.
Truth is, one indonesian girl I had serious oneitus for cheated on me and got knocked up and had a mixed kid. The dad bounced. She asked me to adopt the kid as my own and take care of them both. No thanks. That girl and the bastard kid are on their own. Obviously, the mothers actions made me a little biased to the whole situation, I couldn't even look at that kid without seeing the dad. Its one of the things that made me see awalt before Reddit was even a thing. If I truly loved a woman of any race, I might consider having kids.. But getting stuck with her and that baby is not my life. Do I really want to have a kid with a girl like that? No. Are all women like that? Around here, it certainly appears so.
Islander1776 7y ago
I'm not calling you a racist no worries. Figured it'd be something like that. What could happen with a mixed race kid is one of the parents could just take the kid and run off back to their home country and disappear. Which has definitely happened. My parents have stayed together though so thats been good. But yeah there are lots of ways men can get screwed over today.
MagmaiKH 7y ago
Child support ruins that. Just because she is married doesn't mean she can't or would you sue you for it.
PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
you can't have that as a threat to prevent you from doing your thing. depending where you live, kids can pick their parent they live with as early as 12. chances are if she cuts loose, you're going to be the stable one anyways.
Due diligence, it's just another risk in the pile of risks
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[deleted] 7y ago
Have you thought about working for the Guardian?
PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
Which is awesome. This is an opt in problem, so it doesn't affect you unless you allow for it.
Plus, it opens up plates for those who are spinning, or biding time to ditch a low quality wife until the kids can pick who to live with, or move out. They need release as. Much as the next guy
NaughtyFred 7y ago
Exactly. In the words of an old rap track...
Now she wanna hold out,
gettin cute on the fone.
I don't need to be bothered,
be cute on your own.
PantsonFire1234 7y ago
Fine by me, I'm already fucking fucking whenever I want. Women can do the same.
Therightmike 7y ago
You just churned my guts. The phrasing almost sounds edible if I was more gullible.
logicalthinker1 7y ago
It's fucking scary how plausible that sounds. Like holy fuck...
TheRedStoic 7y ago
That'll be fine thanks to vasagel, and increasing numbers of men getting snipped.
It only benefits them if they can still drop anchor in your wallet. If that disappears things start to get nasty (better)
IllimitableMan 7y ago
Shit Arch I didn't know you had a feminist rationalisation hamster living inside your head. The spin on that is gold, only a lawyer can spin like that.
[deleted] 7y ago
Good job. My blood is boiling.
TheRealMouseRat 7y ago
and that will let them get betas, but nothing else.
[deleted] 7y ago
But they will still get married, because, you know, that child support /wealth money she keeps getting after a divorce.
TheRedChemist 7y ago
What's most disturbing about this is that it's perfectly plausible and given the current trajectory of society, almost inevitable. This isn't pie in the sky exaggerated sarcastic stuff. This is a very likely future.
Of course there's little problem for men who wake up, but... There's still that little speck of blue inside that's hoping against hope to find a good girl worthy of settling down with one day. Even though I know consciously it's effectively impossible. The indoctrination is strong.
NaughtyFred 7y ago
Stop writing their future reasoning for them.
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melliescomingover 7y ago
I remember some guy got who wrote into the guardian advice column ended up getting attacked by a bunch of libfems and beta cucks when he found out his LTR was secretly prostituting herself and he was upset and uncomfortable about it. Being a whore is seen as an empowering feminist career choice nowadays. The death of shame.
When it comes to feminism the jokes right themselves.
[deleted] 7y ago
Holy shit. Please post a link to the article. Like what the actual fuck?
I guess being a cuckold is being normalized now.
ABC_Florida 7y ago
If you really love her, you let her fuck whoever she wants. Yourself excluded.
hores 7y ago
I can see a scary amount of modern day men accepting this viewpoint. Then again, this might be a good idea. Sort these cucks out of the genepool.
ABC_Florida 7y ago
Actually if she gets pregnant from studs only, cucks are sorted out too.
8n0n 7y ago
Hmm are cucks genetic or socially programmed?
I argue that it is social programming; as if it was genetic, then places like TRP would have no value nor success stories of reformed betas.
Even the most alpha stud can have beta based offspring; be it enabled via divorce, poor parenting skills or premature death from high testosterone fueled risky behavior.
hores 7y ago
Among HBD circles there's a thought that European-based peoples evolved to be more friendly towards outsiders than other races due to the necessity of survival because of their environmental conditions. Cooperation over competition, as competition would be a lose-lose scenario (let's get this done before wintertime). So there may in fact be a genetic factor. I don't doubt, however, that what you say is true. A great deal of us are here because of what you mention.
IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 7y ago
I was actually watching a Q&A with NEIL STRAUSS on Youtube not too long ago (he was promoting his new book THE TRUTH), when an audience member brought up exactly this talking point, and then followed it up with (I'm paraphrasing a bit here): "So if this is where it's all going [open relationships / polyamory etc], if my wife gets pregnant, how can I be sure that my son is really MY SON and not someone else's child?"
The woman on the panel (she was pro-polyamory, obviously) chastised him with "What is this thing that you men have, where you just HAVE to continue your own genetic legacy? Why are you so attached to that?" (i.e. "Why can't you just raise someone else's kid? What's wrong with that?") And then (here's the best part), Neil piped up with "Oh yeah, I agree, if I found out today that my son was actually someone else's, that I wasn't his biological father, I wouldn't care in the slightest, I'd still love him just as much."
I'm telling you: I think this is the first time in my life when my jaw actually hit the floor. I just couldn't. Fucking. Believe it. It was like: there it is everyone, the collapse of our entire society, right there in a single sentence.
Make no mistake gents, in the very near future the idea of a woman bearing the child of the man who she's in a relationship with (being taken care of by) will be considered ludicrous in the extreme. First it'll be the normalizing of cuckoldry (already starting), then it'll be "elite" sperm banks. Fathers raising sons that are biologically related to them will be considered very, very unusual (as in, you'll be shamed for it at parties, social gatherings, etc. "Why are you being so selfish, continuing your genetic line?? Don't you want your kid to be as tall as possible? As handsome as possible??" etc).
On the plus side the entire population is about to get extremely attractive--every single boy will, genetically, be a Chad Thundercock (interesting to see what this'll do to the SMP, when everyone's a Chad we'll need a new breed of SuperChad in order to stand out). On the down side, since every child in the world will now belong to just one of a few dozen elite sperm bank Chad fathers, there goes genetic variation (and I'm guessing we'll be inviting in a banquet of consequences with that one).
afkb39sdfb 7y ago
Interesting, not we're not taking into account future technology/medicine. I think a future like the movie Gattica where everyone is genetically engineered to be superior in all aspects to people today is more likely.
dolominute 7y ago
I'd wager what a woman's cunt considers "elite" is usually not very good for society. Attractive, aggressive, high risk tolerant, slightly sociopathic/full on sociopathic people don't make for a pretty world.
Eze-Wong 7y ago
Ive always thought that is what our genetic programming leans to with a legion of chads. But it would create utter social chaos. If i came out a beta and had 0 chance ever landing a woman... probably wouldnt have much to live for. Probably would become an anarchaist and blow everything up sky high. And i wouldnt be the only one. Me and a bunch of betas would have the same idea and at this point we would resort to pillage and rape. And this line of thinking made me think this was the start of marriage. At some point in our history all the chad thundercocking left society in utter discord so people were like "okay shit.... we need to make it so each guy gets 1 woman or every dudes gonna go fuck crazy and kill everyone".
With the devolvement of marriage... i expect to see some manifestation of dischord again... but then again theres porn so maybe not.
IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 7y ago
This is the problem with caveman living--in a tribe of 100 people, 50 guys and 50 girls, all the girls (save the children and elderly of course) are going to have sex with the biggest, strongest, fastest guy, the top alpha, and the other 49 guys are cut out of the reproductive cycle. From a purely genetic standpoint this is a good thing--mother nature wants this, evolution wants this--because it means the next generation will be the biggest, strongest, fastest possible generation.
The problem lies in the exact set of circumstances you pointed out, however: in a system in which you KNOW, for a fact, that as a beta male (one of the other 49) you will never, ever, EVER have a chance at sex EVER (and if you even approach a woman about the possibility, the woman will run screaming to the alpha male, who will then beat you and kill you for attempting to mate with his property), well then, what's the point of doing anything...? Why better yourself? Why contribute to the tribe? Why not just lounge around all day, drink beer, amuse yourself as best you can, and then, eventually, die?
This is how it starts: the betas all withdraw from the tribe, they become bored, restless, frustrated, and then, eventually (as is the case whenever there's a complete sex drought) they band together, overthrow the alpha male, rape and pillage everything, the tribe falls apart, and it's utter chaos until another alpha male rises up and gets things going again.
So basically, under pure natural law (the primal state, the one women prefer) you have utter chaos all the time. If you want CIVILIZATION, however, then you have to start enforcing rules--very specific UNNATURAL rules like "We know all you ladies want to fuck the same top guy, but experience has shown that doesn't work, because all the other guys check out, and then revolt and overthrow society. So how about this, the top girl gets the top guy AND THAT'S IT, the second top girl gets the second top guy, and so on. EVERY GIRL GETS ONE GUY." No more harems, rigidly enforced monogamy. And suddenly, all those beta males that, before, weren't contributing, are now forced to contribute (hunting deer, inventing the new iPhone, whatever) because they now have a wife and kid to feed.
What's fascinating is that, in the modern day, as the shackles of marriage and the very idea of monogamy are being thrown off, we are now returning to the primal state. Looking back at the entire history of our world, you start to realize that ALL successful societies have basically been attempts at combating the single most destructive force in the entire universe (no exaggeration), female hypergamy (of course saying "female hypergamy" is like saying "round sphere" but you get the point). Many societies manage it for a while but all eventually let loose the chains in the end, and then you have a return to caveman dynamics: all the women mate with the top guy (for the best genes) and every other guy is cut out of the sexual marketplace. So they withdraw, society suffers, and then ultimately collapses.
As I've said before, just wait until we all have "hotness rankings" floating over our heads (augmented reality), and that'll be it: whenever a woman wants sex she'll just ping her app and say "Show me the hottest guy within 10 miles available for sex in the next 20 minutes". In this environment (a few years away but it's coming), if you're not a 9.999 you're not getting laid, ever (the perfectly efficient marketplace will see to that). And once you realize you're never going to get sex (as all men are going to, very quickly), why do anything at all? Why start the new Google? Why build that spacecraft to Mars? Just get a fun job (bartender, surf instructor, whatever), hang out, have fun, drink, and die. You won't be having sex, you won't have a family, so just earn the bare minimum to get by and that's it.
This is the real collapse that we all know is coming, and honestly, as someone who's been thinking about all this since I first heard the word "hypergamy" (and found TRP) 2+ years ago, I really don't think there's any way to stop it. I really think we're due for another dark age period that will last centuries (until another conservative society rises up out of the ashes in the year 2500AD or whatever). Crazy when you think about it, but there it is.
empatheticapathetic 7y ago
Sex will just be a business. Prostitution will become a huge industry. The rise of 'sugar daddies' is an indicator of this.
Newdist2 7y ago
More precise would be "every girl gets a different guy".
slay_it_forward 7y ago
Or do what I did, check out from the West and travel to countries where you can fuck attractive women. In the Philippines 60 year old guys from the West are fucking nice 18 year olds.
IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 7y ago
I should also state here: I absolutely believe Neil WOULD, as he claims, continue to love his son just as much as ever, even if he were to discover (at some point) that the child wasn't biologically his. I know parents that have children who are biologically their own as well as adopted children, and they all say that there's no "difference" between the two, you love them all the same.
It's just what Neil's very blatantly implying here that absolutely terrifies me: this notion that "Well, if I found out my child wasn't mine I'd still love him all the same, therefore it doesn't actually matter if he's not mine or not, therefore: go ahead ladies and get knocked up by whoever you want, as your man I'll happily stand by and do my part to raise the child regardless." Scary, scary stuff.
GC0W30 7y ago
None of the families I know with bio and adopted kids actually have good relationships with the adopted kids.
He might TRY to be as good of a dad to his cuck-kids as to bio kids, but I doubt Neil could pull it off.
tyger223 7y ago
i think it really depends on how that information gets across to you.
if you find out before the child is even born you be pissed if you specifically go and adopt a child then its what you signed up for so it wont be a suprise (my case) if you find out when the "child" is like 40 then at that point i dont think most people would care
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A good friend of mine knocked a chick up when he was 21. Except she was also fucking this other dude at the time and because he had a better job and a more affluent family she said he was the father and not my buddy.
The guy "does the right thing" and marries her.
When the kid was about 5 years old he discovers by accident that the kid isn't his when the results of a blood test come back during a medical treatment.
He goes home packs his shit and waits for the mama to get home. When she gets home he smacks the shit out of her and roughs her up pretty good, before getting into his car and driving 1500 miles across the country to live with family.
He mails her the divorce papers which she signs. The woman and the kid never see or hear from him again.
Seven years later the kid starts asking who her father is. The mama names my buddy. In an apology to both her daughter and my buddy, she revealed that she knew when she was told the conception date who the father was - but that didn't matter - she picked who she thought who would be the best benefit to her.
My buddy got a DNA test done on condition it would not be used to seek child support. It confirmed it was his kid.
True story.
[deleted] 7y ago
Similar story as my buddy, but the other guy stayed married. Jesus fuckin' Christ.
IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 7y ago
Yet another great example of a woman maximizing her sexual strategy. (Or at least attempting to, looks like it didn't quite work out in the end.)
Crazy thing is I think this is far, FAR more common than most people realize. Staffers that work at DNA clinics, they all say 25% of tests come back with the results "Sorry, your father isn't who you think he is..." In the animal kingdom I think "illegitimacy" is somewhere between 25% and 33% (have read this in a few places but can't recall where, will have to dig up some sources).
But yeah, next time you're in a room with 3 friends, just look around and think: of the 4 people in here, one of us is wrong about the identity of his father. (Now that'll really get the conversation going...)
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I've been at this (The Red Pill discussion) for a few years now, but I still can't wrap my head around the thought process that rationalizes knowingly naming the wrong man as the father of your child.
I get the deception run on the beta provider part - people run scams of all kinds for personal gain. Its just a dude - and women already see men as disposable, and of one singular purpose - to serve their interests. Even the most well adjusted, sincere and empathetic women reflexively expect men to do for them.
However, we're talking about deceiving your own child and bearing them into a life-long lie. If you have any kind of love for your child, you tell him/her the truth about who their father is. A parent should always seek to shelter and protect their children. This is an act of selfishness that's hard to process. IMO, its a behavior of someone deeply personality disordered. The emotional pain and confusion a child experiences when they discover their own mother lied to them about something so important must be something pretty horrific.
You'd have to either be soulless, evil and cruel or have the awareness and maturity level of pre-pubescent child to make that kind of decision.
dr_warlock 7y ago
Modern Mother's list of priorities
1) me
2) me
3) me
4) chad
5) children
6) hubbie
8n0n 7y ago
I'd say at the time they are more concerned about the child getting through pregnancy, and the first few years of life, than any concerns for mental damage when they are old enough to ask the question 'who is my father' and establish their identity.
I still agree that in the long term it would be an horrific experience, but such short term thinking is a womans default behavior IMO. When they feel that they want something, they want it NOW and demand satisfaction (logic be damned, mah feelz will be sated).
TedTheAtheist 7y ago
I've banged married women before. They like that I don't say anything.
I've banged one and she was pregnant by her husband a few weeks later. Whatever.
PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
Congratulations dad!
TedTheAtheist 7y ago
Hah not me! No way. :)
Orig_analUse_rname 7y ago
You've made a grave mistake.
verify_account 7y ago
I'd argue he's won. He's passing on his genes without spending any time/resources raising his genes.
[deleted] 7y ago
What is this obsession with "passing on the genes"? I feel absolutely no innate desire to do this. Am I missing something here?
[deleted] 7y ago
Yeah there's no primitive desire to pass on genes, there's a primitive desire to spooge in girls' vaginas.
Infinitezen 7y ago
By that logic, sperm donors are "winners" too. I would rethink this philosophy if I was you.
pisspoordecisions 7y ago
Aren't they winners? Instead of wasting resources they're being generously compensated for passing along their genes
Infinitezen 7y ago
That is a very shallow definition of winning in my opinion. How did it make the world a better place? How did it make you a better/stronger person? Winners create things, hopefully things of beauty, through their strength and effort. The pleasure of earning a great victory is always much greater than having something cheap handed to you.
pisspoordecisions 7y ago
Well they're incredibly selective about who they choose to be sperm donors. Being considered someone having genes worthy enough to where you're actually paid to pass them along sounds like a good deal to me. I would love to have a supplementary income for jizzing in a cup.
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Goomich 7y ago
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/video/2016/may/25/women-face-it-marriage-can-never-be-feminist-video
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
I see you have a "Post Wall Skank Nobody Wants Whines About Marriage She Will Never Have" video linked. /grin
--Edog-- 7y ago
She makes no real distinction between marriage in the west and in a place like India or Pakistan - cuz you know, feelz is better than logic.
Rommel0502 7y ago
I dont think this is true - instead of an institution marriage is turning into legal indentured servitude where there is almost no upside for men. I dont think there is a single feminist that wants to let go of that sword.
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They won't.
The laws mandating property transfer will remain. They'll simply dispense with the "married" label and make cohabitation the new standard of asset transfer.
Basically, if you're in an LTR for X number of days, months, etc you're considered married for financial purposes regardless of whether you have a license and ceremony or not. It would already be this way, but women love them some weddings.
Overkillengine 7y ago
Which is part of why I am a proponent of "never let them move in".
The other part is dread is easier to instill since she does not have access to you as much and it forces her to be working more to pay for her own place, thus keeps her busier. (Or it at least keeps her Orbiters too busy financing her to improve themselves enough to become a valid branch swing)
Plus when in separate living arrangements, it is far harder to sucker a man into paying her share of the bills thus helps keep him in an an economically better situation than her.
mumbles36 7y ago
That's when I check out permanently.
cxj 7y ago
It IS already this way in some parts of Canada/Australia. I actually doubt it will come to the USA though.
PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
yeah, because then it opens the door for the gays to cohabitate. can't have that can we?
Either way, legally it's a much easier system, arbitration as opposed to a lengthy legal battle, alimony isn't a factor, and if you live in certain provinces, you can sidestep many of the risks with a vindictive ex.
[deleted] 7y ago
I thought there were states in the United States that already did this. "Common Law" marriage or whatever.
There's that male privilege, again.
cxj 7y ago
There's only like 11 that do it, and iirc it's been challenged successfully before. I'm sure dudes have lost with it too lol. It's on its way out here. It's also like 7 years of living together as opposed to Canada's 2.
MrMetalFingers 7y ago
In Ohio, "common law" marriages have already come and gone. Otherwise I would be "married" and liable financially. Thankfully, we've removed it from the ORC.
cxj 7y ago
Exactly, for various reasons it's been phased out of the USA while enacted in other countries. Weird.
LessASnowmanThanAGod 7y ago
Only takes 6 months in my province. It's horrific.
plenkton 7y ago
Ontario is that you? In Sk, things are a lot less crazy- less immigrants, less feminism...as the saying goes: "are you a conservative or a communist?"
cxj 7y ago
BRB moving to your province, seducing some ugly rich girl, moving in for 6 months then divorce raping her. Mass publicity will result resulting in reform because we can't have the women losing a divorce.
I'm the black knight they need, not the black knight they deserve.
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[deleted] 7y ago
Good bless you cxj and may you be blessed with half of the ugly rich woman's assets and earnings.
cxj 7y ago
Then I'll donate all the money to a men's shelter or something cuz who needs money to be happy and I can make my own just fine
cxj 7y ago
Then I'll donate all the money to a men's shelter or something cuz who needs money to be happy and I can make my own just fine
Archterus 7y ago
I think it is the same in the part of Australia that I live in as well.
shit_with_holes 7y ago
Where's that? I'm in WA and I haven't heard of this.
[deleted] 7y ago
It's definitely a thing in Victoria - Co-habitation over 18 months and being unable to meaningfully distinguish between the two of you in living arrangements = defacto relationship, which is subject to asset division in the event of it going to court.
Google this up, it applies different state by state.
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Goomich 7y ago
You are answering to post which contains only link to a video with feminist saying that marriage is tool for women's oppresion.
Rommel0502 7y ago
Dont listen to what they say, watch what they do.
eccentricrealist 7y ago
I still don't understand why girls think experiencing life means eating dick and smoking weed. Jesus Christ, climb a mountain, go skydiving, get a hobby you stupid bitch.
[deleted] 7y ago
Hey violent oppressor don't you come round here making sense and shit. A strong independent woman who don't need no man (sometimes) has a right to waste time eating shit doing nothing and getting praised for it. Achievements and doing amazing things are for men.
Joseph_the_Carpenter 7y ago
Yes you do. You sound angry about it though: women want sex more than men. Their entire lives revolve around it. Sure, they don't think about it as much as men, or pursue it like men, but their every action is to make them sexually appealing and get that alpha cock in them. They compare climbing a mountain or pursuing a career as a way to pass the time until Chad comes along, or as a way to get Chad to fuck them.
Archterus 7y ago
You fucking patriarchal shitlord. Projecting those toxic masculine pursuits onto women. Off to the correctional talk you go!
eccentricrealist 7y ago
Doubleplus good, I love big brother.
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Unfortunately, they often do.
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T0DDTHEGOD 7y ago
If the this gentleman allowed her to commit such behaviour then wouldn't that make him basically a cuckold?
dking168 7y ago
Once she rides the cock carousel, she won't go back
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darkmoon09 7y ago
Before swallowing the pill this would have made my blood boil..now it's just amusement for those of us who've woken up. AF/BB seem to be well on it's way to becoming legitimized and at this point I've more or less made peace with the fact that I'm never going to commit to an LTR.
[deleted] 7y ago
This is what will destroy the European bloodline. Our inability to produce offspring in stable homes.
Welcome the conquerors from Africa and the Middle East.
I'll be in my hermit hut in the mountains.
PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
Neanderthals went extinct. Deal. By the time this is an issue, you'll be dead.
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Ill be on the mountain opposite yours.
[deleted] 7y ago
Fuck yea. It'll be a Kennedy compound, we'll have to import cigars and bitches though.
RedPillJohnny 7y ago
Coercive engineered migration is a thing. Blame the powers that be and not the refugee/pawns. They'll eventually get you in your mountain hut so you might as well join the fight against cultural marsixm, remain where you are, and change how you deal with this type of adversity.
Gorech1ld 7y ago
"fight".
Yeah, it's hard to fight when everyone else is so willing to let themselves and their own daughters be ass raped over the fear of getting called racist.
I've seen some anger amongst the people of Europe, but it doesn't seem to be enough. The indoctrination is so strong. And the censorship throughout the internet doesn't necessarily help.
RedPillJohnny 7y ago
It's the hardest fucking fight any of us will confront. This is an extremely serious top for TRP. This is decades of continuous indoctrination we are facing. When I first found the redpill everyone was always screaming that we are not SJWs and that the redpill is a sexual strategy first and foremost...I agree but to adhere to a redpill way of thinking, even if it is only utilized as a sexual strategy, forces us to confront cultural marxism which in turn requires us to be knowledgeable about topics and trends outside of the sexual strategy paradigm.
My approach is to educate myself first and not let the paradigm shifting knowledge of the effects of cultural marxism destroy me inside. This is really important. I was over my anger phase about a year ago and now that I am learning about cultural marxism and its insidious penetration into everyone's mind and soul my anger phase has flared up again, threatening to destroy my newly built frame.
Taking the red pill is such a great metaphor because you can't plug yourself back into the matrix once you've unplugged. Hot and cold running pussy is a great reward but there is a burden of awareness that comes with taking the red pill that also turns into a great responsibility that not only affects your love life, your kids, and your family, but the entire North American cultural landscape.
Read some Jack Donovan. He is very inspiring in this regard. http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/
mehdreamer 7y ago
Bro, don't blame Africans and Middle Easterns for it...these two groups are in the bottom of the dating hierarchy... I rarely see a girl with a middle eastern and the few ones with blacks are usually low quality..
[deleted] 7y ago
Youre absolutely right, but were talking about birth rates. They have 5 kids by the time theyre 25. We have 0 kids by the time were 30.
chris_sydney 7y ago
Let's wait until next GFC will hit. Then we will see child support going away and people realising that having 5 kids might be too expensive.
dumbTRPguy 7y ago
Because genetic purity is awesome.
I'm not saying you have to go scream at white men and support BLM, and I'm not saying that two unrelated people of the same race necessarily leads to genetic issues of the children.
What I am saying is that your argument sounds a whole lot like what kings used to justify having sex with family members to maintain power.
Oh yeah, and don't forget the Jews of Eastern Europe. They were isolated by force or by choice, and now Tay Sachs disease.
The "race red pill" seems increasingly like bullshit to me.
[deleted] 7y ago
My point was that blacks and middle easterners are reproducing at a much higher rate than whites due to our culture encouraging independence of women which has a direct cause-effect relationship to procreation.
We need families to keep civilization going, not just people. Look at the races I include, have they been good at maintaining civilizations recently? Fuck no. Without educated people creating families we'll just have more run down ghettos and places like Detroit before we drown in the social cost of keeping these people fed and housed.
edit: being polite. also: some perspective on why ethnic diversity isn't great
dumbTRPguy 7y ago
I 100% agree with this. Giving people rights means they do things differently.
Two words. Structural ineqaulities. And before you accuse me of being "blue pill" or a leftist, tell me how structural inequalities AREN'T effecting these minorities.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, what about the independence of women? Do you favor this independence? You know part of that meant women got to go to university, right? If you don't believe giving women freedom, then you'd likely be barring them from education. Is K-12 enough? Please explain this potential inconsistency.
I grew up in a rich area. There are rich Black and Middle Eastern people. It's not about race, it's about structural inequality on a large scale.
I didn't see your original response, but I appreciate you trying to keep it civil. I too will try and keep from getting out of hand.
I'm not going to respond to a 20-minute video, I just can't do it justice (it was clearly well-researched). Also, I never said ethnic diversity was great. I said genetic diversity was.
BlackHera 7y ago
I'm so happy to realize how far i have come. If i would've read this, this time last year, I would have been fuming and probably Reporting this "hateful" subreddit. SO glad i can laugh at this now and understand why she has this thought and the ability to read between the lines. AWALT.
ecosci 7y ago
Lets rejoice because the more we get on true female nature the less beta buxs will be created uncovering the facts about marriage in our society most men just need to know that women will never love you for yourself and they can take thier hard earned money and spend on themselves leaving these sluts and the bastard children to be with the state so if she wants freedom let them have it just not on your watch.
[deleted] 7y ago
Maybe I'm interpreting this wrong, but is the person saying the guy would be okay with this, or just dump her?
KermitTheeFrog777 7y ago
She's saying he would dump her.
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Oh ok, then that makes sense.
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I take it as implying that if her boyfriend tells her to fuck off, she'll think he is the "1%" jerks and be even more justified in her slutty ways... The pseudo 99% validates her slut license.
If she said 50% it would make her feel guilty, and that's a taboo.
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TheReformist94 7y ago
Men are not the gatekeepers of commitment. Sex isn't special for them.they enjoy NSA sex.men desire monogy,not women
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KnocksEmUp 7y ago
When the voters are mostly women and white knights, as they sure are on Reddit, what do you expect BUT to be downvoted?
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KnocksEmUp 7y ago
Me too, but I don't see it. And there is nothing blocking women and white knights from voting here. In addition, many newly-minted alpha males are really still beta in their heart. For instance, those who can't wrap their heads around the fact that what's good for the goose is not necessarily appropriate for the gander; specifically, those who feel that because they demand fidelity from their woman that means that they should be monogamous too.
Goomich 7y ago
Horizontaly Orientated Entertainment.
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AZTRP 7y ago
Ha, I enjoyed the response. Abby has some wisdom.
mehdreamer 7y ago
This reminds me the time when my ex told me " Oh, actually I can be in love with two guys at the same time"
It was during my blue pill days...I was like WTF...what do you mean..
Now I realize she was just hamstering...and what she meant is "I will fuck another hot guy when the occasion will present itself. She wanted a One-way polygamy : her way of course. she even told me if I cheated on her, she'll break up with me on the spot and expected me to not reciprocate because "I loved her". AWALT!
Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 7y ago
Virtually every open relationship I have ever seen had the woman as the open side and not the man because "she couldn't handle it". In fact one notorious incident at a party was witnessing a married woman making out on a couch with someone else, and then she got off of him to scream at her husband who was making out with someone else.
mehdreamer 7y ago
Open relationships are a one way win situation to women. I had a friend who agreed with his LTR to try an open relationship for a while.
They were both 7's. What happened is that she could find herself a hot guy each weekend...while he was struggling to find a girl....maybe one each 2 months. She even requested that she should be able to bring guys to their appartment. He agreed. she was fucking other guys while he was sleeping in the next room. True story.
Stythe 7y ago
Not surprising. I know a guy who's girl will bring home other guys and girls when they go out drinking. Apparently he doesn't really partake though, so he loses out. I know another group of people trying it and every single girl is unsatisfied with they're men. The men in the group are all friends and seem to be sharing the women. Some are even married. What's the point? Just be a group of fuck buddies, no commitment and split rent in your orgy house. Why commit at all if you don't care to be committed?
Polyamoury doesn't make sense for men the way it's used today. It's a woman first type of thing as women are the ones who get picked up. The guys still has to do the picking up which means it will be easy for her to find guys and nit so much for the guys. Even if they're solid and getting laid is easy it's still more work for them. If she was really invested in her man despite being polyamourous I'd imagine she'd be picking up other women and would bring home girls for their men as well as dudes, but that's never what I see.
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Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 7y ago
As an interesting sidenote I knew a woman who was so desperate to have Chad's baby that she had the job and apartment and did all the housework and listened to him fuck other women in the bedroom and actually thought he would be a good dad. Except he couldn't work because he was a deadbeat on 6 other kids by 6 women. Once she was pregnant he disappeared. Big shock I tell you.
seattleron 7y ago
I bet given the chance, she makes the same decision over.
Stythe 7y ago
I always wonder how these guys dissappear. It seems to me that if a woman got pregnant she would just try to take him for all he's worth and I'd assume she could. How is this a thing? Do they just leave town? Use fake info while they fuck her? Do they pick women who they know won't bother following through, or who will just take they're government sugar daddy paycheque and leave it at that? This is actually something I'm curious about. If anyone has inforation or knows people who have gotten someone pregnant and bailed, I'd like to hear more.
hores 7y ago
He doesn't have to have legal ID at all, he can easily use another dude's name, if he's as deadbeat as he sounds like he is he probably doesn't even own his own place, or if he does, he only fucks girls at their places. No steady job, no place of regular employment... how would you go about tracking someone like that? Granted, these dudes are way less plentiful than dutiful betas, but those are the circumstances that I can see making it hard for the chick to track down the guy.
Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 7y ago
They lived together. His muscles and tattoos gave her tingles, she didn't bother chasing after him because she realized if the first 6 women aren't getting any money out of him she won't either. Perhaps their egos are all hoping that he'll see the light someday. But if you're willing to live on peoples couches and can always find fresh meat then you can get away with a lot. No paper trail means no way to find you. It will eventually catch up with them though.
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Holy fucking shit. Exactly why if a woman I'm in a committed relationship with proposes an open relationship, I'm nexting her. I will just assume she already cheated and is using it to make herself feel less guilty.
LukesLikeIt 7y ago
If you are capable of getting chicks easy enough to want a open relationship then she won't want it. Girls only cuck guys they think cant get more pussy. While they get off being the one in the relationship with the pussy slayer.
Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 7y ago
My first ever girlfriend when I was 18 wanted an open relationship and then started pressuring me to see other girls then went behind my back to chase these girls away. It was all a smokescreen for her cheating.
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Exactly. How the fuck do women sleep at night doing shit like this? I've read countless stories on reddit which taught me that when a woman you are going out with either a) proposes an open relationship or b) proposes a threesome with a specific guy, then she is either cheating, or will sleep with other people once you accept it. Heck, they might sleep with that specific threesome guy after the threesome happens, but you won't be there for it.
Even if you are fine with the arrangement of an open relationship, it's 1000x easier for a women who is good looking to sleep with someone that is as good looking as her, than it is for a man to sleep with someone as good looking as he is.
Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 7y ago
You assume they feel guilt.
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It all comes from one side of totally contradictory ideas women offer up on sex. On one hand, sex is the most important thing ever to women. Rape and sexual assault are horrific crimes that damage and destroy women. Anything that limits a woman's sexual expression and sexual choice is bad. Rape, sexual assault and domestic violence are bad. Judgmentalism against women for having had a lot of casual sex or a high N is bad. Judgmentalism for being unable or unwilling to make relationships work is bad. Men should never, ever do or say anything to hurt women sexually, including judging them for their sexual choices.
On the other hand, women tell us that sex isn't important at all. It doesn't mean anything (except when women, or a particular woman, decides that it means something; and then it means whatever she wants it to mean). And it doesn't mean anything to men, or it shouldn't. Sex is just something fun you do with people you like. Sex is like going to the movies, or getting drinks at the local happening place, or those stupid "wine and Painting" places.
So if a woman wants to have casual sex outside marriage, she can. If she wants a boyfriend and have sex with him, while having sex on the side with other men, she can. If she wants to get married and have as much or as little sex with her husband, she can do that. If she wants her marriage while having sex with other men occasionally or frequently, she can. She can, and should, be allowed to have sex with whoever she wants, however she wants, whenever she wants, for any reasons she deems acceptable, even if she is married and ostensibly committed to a man.
It all stems from apex fallacy, I think. Women who think this way see a very few very attractive men doing this. They see very attractive men, even married men, having sex with their wives and fucking women on the side. Or they hear about this from Lifetime TV Movies of The Week, Oxygen movies, etc. They see it depicted in media. THis leads them to believe that this is much more widespread than it really is. It leads them to believe that all, or even most, men are doing this. It leads them to believe that most married men are cheating on their wives, that most men live the lives of Chad, cads and players -- even the nebbishly nerdy little accountants and freaks. Most women believe these men are still getting laid, albeit with unattractive women or nerdgirls or BPD nutcases.
So most women honestly believe that since most men are allegedly living this lifestyle, going out and getting laid most weekends whenever and however they want, women believe they can and should do this too. And it doesn't mean anything anyway, right (or at least it doesn't until she decides it does)?
IN fact it's nature for women. When you leave women to their own desires and let them pick their own sex partners, you get today's modern SMP -- women fucking very attractive men and hopping from cock to cock. Women fucking players who offer them little more than a good time and disappear when she asks "where is this going?" Women fucking cads who bed them for a night, boyfriend treat them for a day with breakfast and a bit of conversation. And women doing this actually LIKE it. They'd much rather spend time with and fuck these guys than the nerdy accountants they think are sleeping with Lizzy the Lezzy or the nerdgirl or the WoW fangirl.
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True. Most women value themselves based on the value of the man whose cock happens to be in them at that particular moment.
Hoodwink 7y ago
These girls are in general doing the same thing. They don't realize they almost have as much sexual power and access than Cindy Cheerslut. But, there's so weird jealousy and rage thing going on because they've been alpha-widowed.
DubbleFUPAwitCheez 7y ago
What's interesting is your statement on women and sex almost appears to be parody, however, you are 100% correct. All of that is true but here's the issue. If they do that they may miss out on the opportunity to be with the man they truly want later. That's the threat.
They've forgotten this because there are so many men that are willing to settle or just never bring it up. There was a girl that I would have married but her sexual past was so revolting to me that she put herself on thin ice. I couldn't bring myself to put up with even minor problems. She didn't feel worth it. She felt like a used car at a brand new price.
They can have all of the cheating and other sluttery but they can not have a high value man that won't put up with it.
Luckyluke23 7y ago
what have you got against accountants man!
great post keep it up!
PyridoxaI 7y ago
This is what you get with a matriarchal society. Utter shit and collapse.
DoesNotMatterAnymore 7y ago
You don't have to "over complicate" this post.
This is my favorite explanation of solipsism:
... base on what only I know ...
This is the key! Your explanation is correct, don't get me wrong. On her own personal experience, from her own point of view, she is right. Sex is free and it's everywhere she goes. She fucked Chad, she fucked her nerdy friend once, she fucked her neighbor's husband, Brad cheated on Jenny with her. People are having sex all the time! Right? Since i'm having sex all the time, probably everyone else (including male side) does too.
PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
It makes sense. Everytime she says something about her feelings, add "right now" at the end. Anything involving her setting a boundary or rule, add "with you"
It makes the entire powertalk lexicon of women understandable
fluffyshuffle 7y ago
Heh, I have a similar rule!
PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
It's standard across the redpill. I can't remember who coined it. I want to say archwinger, but i could be wrong
icecow 7y ago
The part I don't agree with you is depicting women as innocently believing most men cheat. They might signal out that type of man from Lifetime TV and use it to rationalize their desired position (bent over with cum in their hair), but to think they actually believe that? Nooo. They see how most men walk around like spinless pushovers.
On another side note, at least the girl in the article is being honest. She should talk to her boyfriend about being in an open relationship. She could be her boyfriend's wingman to even the attraction score and maybe they would both be ahead. Maybe they could even be together for a long time.
--Visionary-- 7y ago
FTFY. The generalizable rule of Feminism. Everything basically follows from the above.
PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
Remember the old days, when they just wanted a job, to leave the dude beating her, and to vote?
Old black men must have loved how they got both, and didn't have to fight police dogs for a decade first...
CornyHoosier 7y ago
This is where old and young collide. As a 30 yo man I've only ever known a world with computers and women who have the same opportunities as men.
From my perspective, it's women and men who are getting weaker (including my own generation). I grew up watching women "break glass ceilings" and do all sorts of things women had never done before.
However, now it seems women can't seem to handle anything. Concepts like triggering or safe spaces only lead to weakening an individual. Having men automatically be the support for a woman & child or have a man/woman drink and the responsibility for choices falls to the man; all of that puts men back at the front of authority.
Maybe I am starting to get old now. I miss the days of women having high standards in both physical and mental relationships. I miss the days of men rising up to meet those standards.
PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
I notice, in my mid 30s, that this stuff starts to distance from you, the more affluent your life becomes... At least so blatant.
A lot of single 40 year olds out there where I live now, you can tell it's a minefield, a lot of fake tits and single bedroom apartments, but ripe for older guys who dont mind milfs
MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
I've heard this line. But only while "beta dating". Actually I think every long term girlfriend I've had has come up with this line sooner or later.
Seeing women casually as FWB on the other hand, and I hear how important sex is, that it's a vital part of a relationship, and that it's crucial to who she is as a person, and I better not stop doing it.
Concluded: women have an alpha sex drive, commitment kills passion.
Action: never committed to a woman again.
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Yeah. You know I can't really decide what's going on here.
There's really no such thing as cougars - they're a myth conjured up in porn. They're a male fantasy -- the hypersexual older woman who makes it as easy as possible for some inexperienced nerdboy who doesn't in turn have to put in any effort to get an easy fuck with a sexy, sexually assertive woman. Most older women I know who are over 35 and don't have a man in their lives are miserably unhappy. Hell, most over 35 women I know who are married are unhappily married. They want men, real men, in their lives, and they (say they) want committed relationships with one man.
And then on the other hand there are women, married and unmarried, having sex with men for any number of reasons. Sex for love. Sex for lust. Sex because they're caught up in the feelings of a short term fling with a very attractive man. Sex to scratch an itch, because "it's been a while" and "I just felt like it". Sex because he's an attractive man, he's there, he's interested, and the odds of getting caught are slim to none. Sex to feel validated, to affirm her continued sexual value, to confirm to herself that she's "still got it", that she can still get a man (of decreasing attractiveness himself) to fuck her on command.
Are they cougars fucking for fun? Or are they miserable women searching for love and commitment?
HS-Thompson 7y ago
I think you answered your own question at the end here. Great post.
PantsonFire1234 7y ago
Actually I've found that 30-40 women are very easy fucks for younger inexperienced dudes. They aren't extremely picky and don't punish you hard for not being alpha-dominant as fuck. Girls in the 18-25 range however are very punishing. If you aren't the fifth gear Alpha Chad that rears her like a whore- you ain't getting real sex. Girls however are tons easier to fuck once you crack that code and just drag them through the house. While cougars are more concerned and looking for a more balanced sexual experience with her being more in control.
MagmaiKH 7y ago
"Still got it" is prime mover for 35+. There are lots of cougars but they generally aren't interested in going back to 20ish bad sex.
MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
All the above and more. They're all different and all the same.
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Co witness and co signing here. I admit I tried the cougar thing to see what the "thrill" was all about but realized I didn't like it and it killed my boner to realize that 30 and over pussy is just a worn out vag that provides no sensation whatsoever. I'll stick to 20-24 yr old chicks full of life not empty shells please.
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they certainly are women in their late 30's and 40s that are just out to fuck. But they aren't as hot as seen on tv.
icecow 7y ago
I'm in my mid 40s. Women aged 40+ conspicuously flirt and practically throw themselves at me all the time. Hold up, this isn't about my ego. These women are -- for the most part -- unattractive and large. It's not that they are the only ones I attract either. What I'm trying to say is 40+ large unattractive women give no fucks about being assertive and conspicuous. Over half of them are married (to old farts they want to strangle I imagine). I get to see the 'pretty woman's dilemma'. Imagine a low SMV looking man (picture michael moore) walking up to pretty woman and beaming a big smile at her making her stare at his broken face as he eye fucks her and blushes. These 40+ women are doing that to me. It's to the point that I might start cutting them off and saying, "I have a girlfriend!" and scuttle off. I have a warped sense of humor.
Again, old low smv women aren't all I attract, but it sucks that they are so numerous, forward and conspicuous. Why the fuck would they think they could have me?? I in part know the answer. I often dress low status in jeans and a colored, no logo, tee shirt, which makes me accessible, yet sport a younger clean haircut. There is another lesson here. Men do this to women all the time. They walk up to a girl with their whatever shirt and whatever haircut and act like they are the prize. She's thinking wtf. Lesson learned: Don't walk around looking like Michael Moore flirting with women thinking if you craft your words correctly you are in, then blaming your failure for not having the right words.
tl;dr Older women are wanna-be whores, and it's easy to see if you are a decent looking 45 year old male. I think they would hit on younger males in a heartbeat, but generally don't in fear of being shamed.
Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 7y ago
Cougars are real except all the cougars I fucked when I was young were married and cheating.
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I guess "cougars", the ones you're talking about, including married women, are not the women you see in porn -- they're not women out to do a sexual favor for an inexperienced clueless nerdboy and do all the work for him.
If there are cougars out there prowling, they're looking for hot, good looking men with some game who step up and do some work for their pussies. So my guess is that if you were fucking older, cheating married women, you were bringing some game and pursuing them. You put in some work, gave them the validation they wanted, and looked and acted attractive enough to make it worth a cheating woman's while.
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Stythe 7y ago
Same with my beta-relationship. According to her, sex was just sex. Who cares if the guy cunt in her, it's all just skin. It doesn't matter. Threesome should be had when you're young and sexy. She actually said all these things, but when it came to me fucking her and another woman, or other women in general, man did the jealousy and insecuritis come out. In retrospect I totally get it, but at the time I only had my I tuitions and it was very confusing.
That said, just don't date bi-polar drug addicts.
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Stythe 7y ago
Alcohol is a drug. Even those that don't touch substances can have addictions as well. The CC is itself an addiction. It's all just dopamine release. What's important isn't the drug they do, but how they keep their priorities in order.
MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
It's important to know at all times if you're talking to the woman or to the hamster.
Stythe 7y ago
Often it was the hamster, but her life was her hamster. Truth is her life was shit and she didn't even have a chance. She found the drug and sex culure and it kept her away from her demons as long as she kept it up. Then she found me and tried to use me like a drug, as they do. Despite all that, I don't believe her intents were bad, but she was pretty dumb. She would literally explain her sex drive and her want of family as two different things. At one point well after I went full beta she broke down trying to explain and understand why she wasn't attracted to me. She didn't get it. She started believing she might be schizophrenic. At the time I was so clueless but it makes total sense now.
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MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
Woman = her actual emotions and feelings.
Hamster = the lies and justifications she tells you and herself
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MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
Yes.
Also yes except they do know.
Yes.
They know exactly what they are doing, all the hamstering and justifying and lieing and pretending is a big juggling act in her head to be able to do what she wants and make someone else responsible.
They know what they do to men - and they enjoy it. Man is upset? Well, that proves her social superiority so that's good. Man is beaten, broken and abused by her actions? Well clearly he was a beta who deserved it.
They are ruled by their feelings, and they use the rest of their brains to get away with using increasingly strange justifications. Society provides many for her, she just copy-pastes the one that looks best.
But yes - they definitely know what they're doing. When they talk amongst themselves the truth comes out. When they talk to a guy they're alpha-fucking (without commitment) the truth comes out. When they're presenting themselves generally/publically they present themselves as high value.
To women, this isn't even lying - it's just what you do. They hate that other women lie and cheat and manipulate, but do exactly the same thing themselves.
AWALT. But still - you can have a lot of fun with them if you play by their rules. Just never be in a position where walking away is painful.
BoyWhoreWithASword 7y ago
Western society is too comfortable.
The harsher the physical environment, the stronger the patriarchy. Most importantly the more reinforced gender roles are and the larger the polarity between masculine and feminine energy.
In the western world of comfort and luxury, feminism has taken its hold and the social agenda is marginalizing men and masculinity. It's teaching men to become women by being more emotional and timid and it's teaching women to become more like men by making them more dominant, aggressive, headstrong, rebellious, and promiscuous. The entire society is becoming backwards.
chris_sydney 7y ago
I concur. Former Soviet union eaten bloc is a great example and used to be a source of traditional values and feminine beauties. Now however it looks more like pussified Sweden.
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The sad part is that it is entirely possible to have a safe, luxurious society for ourselves and not lose it to feminism. It merely requires men to retain a spine and tell women to fuck off when they try to encroach on male spaces. Patriarchy is merely part of the civilization cycle. It still puts unfair value on women, as children with no responsibility for their actions. This inevitably leads to a feminist society.
We should be seeking to eliminate the gynocentric society, not merely return it to a patriarchy where women still hold power due to their baby making ability.
jj3570 7y ago
Complementary translation:
I have this man attached to me, but I'm about to enter a world of sexual opportunity.
I've had him whipped for 2 years and he's ready to be my provider but I want to have sex with a variety of other men that I'm actually attracted to. I'm not even 21 yet and I haven't experienced the chance to claim a better (taller, handsomer, richer, smarter, etc.) man than the one I have already.
I want to go out and flaunt my SMV with men that make me horny and give them my body with no reservations. I've had one night stands and they were great so I want more experiences that will come down to that.
I want to be rid of him but I don't want to deal with his heartbreak: how do I get rid of him in the most efficient, painless way possible so I can march in the dick parade I've always wanted to be a part of?
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The latest major accomplishment of feminism: earning women the freedom to be a ho. Western civilization is fucked.
PantsonFire1234 7y ago
This is just a post about a western woman who doesn't want to miss out. From a young age they get told that they are entitled to everything. That every desire and every dream is theirs to take. In a way I understand that this girl wants to have "more from life" than just sticking to this dude forever. Even if that 'more from life' means getting three cocks yammed up her holes.
This is the bubble that women live in, the continuous fantasy that has to keep trucking. One guy offering her one experience just isn't going to cut it. And lets be real now, neither should we want this.
From what I can hear this girl actually sounds pretty reasonable. It sure as hell beats the stories I've seen and heard about women actively cheating on their boyfriends with some Chad that pounded her head against the bathroom cupboard- then giving her boyfriend a kiss with an unwashed seamen riddled mouth.
I've also witnessed women who actually duped their boyfriends with the fantasy off living exclusively forever and ever. Claiming not "to be that kind of girl" and then giving him starfish sex while she cheated and fucked on the side three months later, ending in a break up.
The bottom line is, there is no 'you and me' no 'women and men'. There is us and there is them. And that will never change again.
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PantsonFire1234 7y ago
You'd be surprised how much of the worlds population thinks so. Mostly men.
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PantsonFire1234 7y ago
Some guys lack that gut instinct and become full time cucks.
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PantsonFire1234 7y ago
Alpha to one is the beta to another. I've met girls who were heads over heels for some guy that wouldn't commit- hit all the right notes. Thinking he was some Alpha, then he got cucked by his new girlfriend later on.
Allot of these 'Alphas' are just higher value betas who show zero interests in some HB5-6 and therefor appear Alpha to her.
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PantsonFire1234 7y ago
I think they do but they change. When I committed I changed. Those I know who were true alpha and committed equally changed slowly as time progressed. Of course they all remain more RP than say the Beta Cucks I know. But those lead entirely different lives with vastly different relationship dynamics in play.
Commitment will always weaken your male resolve. The only things that will harden you is impenetrable frame or being unplugged.
Overkillengine 7y ago
And this is why a man's default stance should always be to get a DNA test before accepting paternity.
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I still advise (and have actually been the first one early on in my current LTR) to suggest swingers clubs, if it ever comes to her wanting to fuck someone else, I get to have another pussy and she can't say shit. Take it or leave it. That way both parties get fulfillment and no one is left out.
I would rather do that openly, before hyper gamy rears it's ugly head and infidelity becomes a problem, (WHEN it does, NOT "if")
KnocksEmUp 7y ago
I would never allow somebody else's dick inside my LTR, regardless of the "reward." When I do a married woman, or one in an LTR with somebody else, I accept that she will also have sex with him, but that's very different: he will also be the likely one to be responsible for any offspring. Hence, if she starts desiring other dicks AND I KNOW ABOUT IT OR EVEN JUST SUSPECT IT, her LTR days with me are HISTORY. No exceptions.
KimJongUntzUntz 7y ago
How do those places work exactly? Do they only let couples in?
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http://www.eyzwideshut.com/
[deleted] 7y ago
So brave! She deserves a helping of AlphaCock and her beta needs to allow it or he is a weak, insecure misogynist.
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I would dump her the second she finished talking.
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People still won't listen... you should NEVER take a womans word nor place any value on it.
Obviously we know they are inferior and it should not surprise anyone whos familiar with them that responsibility is such a chore for them among many things of course.
No need to get angry since this one is new to it and pretends to be unsure while the average chick just does it without seeking approval. Nothing new people.
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So what ? As a man, that's exactly the reason why I broke up with my last girlfriend (and so did a few people I know, men as much as women).
How old are you ?
IDontKnowAnymore3456 7y ago
The difference is she doesn't seem to want to break up with the guy...
ffatty 7y ago
Good post, terrible comments.
Sdom1 7y ago
Who the fuck is this moron that purports to give advice. 99% of men would NOT be OK with you having one night stands on the side. You can explain it however the fuck you want, it ain't happening. Jesus.
TheNthVector 7y ago
I think they mean that 99% of men would break up on the spot.
lnTheRearWithTheGear 7y ago
Yes, that's the implication... If the ho explains her feelings to her bf, the guy will break up with her, freeing her to ho it up as much as she wants.
Sdom1 7y ago
JESUS H TITTYFUCKING CHRIST, I can't believe I missed that. I've just been astounded so many times by media types that I just take them at their word now.
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