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- Hide Preview | 105 Comments | submitted 5 months ago by nebder [Post Locked]

You just got gamed. You aren't even a girl. Welcome to non sequitur game.

I stumbled upon this beautiful application of non sequitur game. I was bsing one of my buddies about to call him a merman. There was a damn emoji substitution for that word. I thought wtf is going on with the world anyway and sent it to him. Not long after I was texting a gal. She said something dumb I wasn't going to address over text. I remembered the stupid merman so I said Look theres mermaids now ????‍♂️????‍♀️. She laughed and started sending the other weird emojis.

I was out in the nightlife last Saturday night. Chatting up a gal and got into a debby downer conversation track that I wanted to get out of. I gave her a serious look and told her Hey did you know there's mermaids now. Got the wtf scowl (my favorite look on a gal) and a what are you talking about. Told her to get out her phone and check. Conversation changed to the other weird ones as well her. Problem solved back to a fun topic and laughs.

Non sequitur can be a get out of jail free card. If you get going down a conversation path you want to exit, pull out a non sequitur to regain the conversation. The more completely absurd your non sequitur is, the more it will fuck with her mind and override anything going on before. You cannot overdo this one or she'll think you're just an ADD wackjob. Used judiciously this is a conversation reset or a way to completely bypass a shit test. At that point you're back in the driver's seat to take it where you want.

[-] FieldLine 123 Points 5 months ago

This tangentially reinforces what we always say -- the specific words that come out of your mouth don't matter, only that you talk to her at all and fondle her mind.

Usually we only apply that to opening a girl though, you've taken it to the next level by injecting it into the middle of a conversation when the interaction isn't going in a good direction. Well done.

[-] redpillcad 38 Points 5 months ago

Words Used < Emotions Generated

[-] jbpostv 19 Points 5 months ago

Did you know they did surgery on a grape

[-] kusoxu 4 Points 5 months ago

Fondle her mind

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[-] GayLubeOil 113 Points 5 months ago

Women are more retarded than ever before. This right here is postmodern Gen Z game. And it's only gonna get more retarded from here. OP is a visionary.

[-] ahab_dies 45 Points 5 months ago

30 year olds aren't boomers.

I say this as a 30 year old millennial. Don't call me a boomer, it triggers me REEE

[-] GayLubeOil 13 Points 5 months ago

Since your a millennial here are 12 Rules for life from boomers

[-] VickVaseline 4 Points 5 months ago

Wow, JBP sounds particularly Kermitesque in the first video on that page.

[-] MoDuReddit 3 Points 5 months ago

Jesus, what trash.

[-] ahab_dies 2 Points 5 months ago

What fresh hell is this?

[-] itiswr1tten 1 Point 5 months ago

MillionDollarBonus has a blog now? Wow I thought he made a career trolling zero hedge. This is excellent satire

[-] Your_Coke_Dealer 6 Points 5 months ago

You’re not a boomer, you’re just old enough to start to sound like your parents

[-] JellyRev 2 Points 5 months ago

Don't kid yourself. I am a 30 year old boomer and love it. Nothing like mowing the lawn with a cold one wearing headphones listening to hootie or AC/DC

[-] ahab_dies 2 Points 5 months ago

Do you own the lawn you mow?

That's the big difference between boomers and millennials.

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[-] redpillschool 13 Points 5 months ago

Women are more retarded than ever before.

That's why you can have a long, serious conversation with almost any woman about star signs and zodiacs. Pick any woman out of a crowd, 99.99% chance she buys into the bullshit on some level.

[-] GayLubeOil 9 Points 5 months ago

You know that astrology is the foundation of Judaism Christianity and Islam and that all three inherented a lot of mysticism from Egypt and Babylon

The pope wears a Pisces hat just like Dagon

[-] FastingCharlie 1 Point 4 months ago

With all due respect it would be more accurate to say the 300+ fulfilled Old Testament prophecies of Jesus are SOME of the foundations of Christianity rather than Astrology is THE foundation.

Astrology is a false religion, not a foundation of Christianity. The Pope is off topic, LOL

[-] GayLubeOil 1 Point 4 months ago

There's plenty of astrological leakage into Christianity starting with the three wise men of Christ's birth. The issue is that you don't know anything about astrology and are unable to recognize it's presence where it exists.

[-] Battagliare 6 Points 5 months ago

hello sir what is your advice for a Gen Z guy ?

[-] GayLubeOil 25 Points 5 months ago

Dumb meme shit especially for women under 21

[-] Senorbubbz 20 Points 5 months ago

Can confirm. Although it’s honestly tiresome to keep up with the retardation of these new memes, especially since they are so unfunny.

[-] orieva 6 Points 5 months ago

I really hate meme culture. I think its a waste of life. The only thing you're doing with memes is showing each other that 'yes I'm funny' and 'yes we think alike'.

And so many people my age do this stuff.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points 5 months ago

Lurk /fit/ for a minute. Also deepfried memes gets funny ones although it's mostly cancer ????‍♂️

[-] Luckyluke23 2 Points 5 months ago

so meemes memes and more meme... ok i got it.

[-] HumanSockPuppet 19 Points 5 months ago

Give 'em a taste of daddy. Most of them have never experienced it before, but all bitches have a slot for it in their brains. Makes them go obedient in no-time flat.

[-] Battagliare 18 Points 5 months ago

The authorative figure who cares for her but doesnt give a shit about her opinions and still does what he wants to do and orders her around in reasonable levels meanwhile having fun with her with amused mastery.

Got it. Thanks.

[-] grandmasbroach 1 Point 5 months ago

Wtf did you just have me watch GLO? That's time I'll never get back...

[-] duskyMonk 1 Point 5 months ago

goddammit. My first girlfriend from long before my rp days loved non sequitur humor and I hated it because it just feels dumb. Now it's the new meta for game. RIP western civilization

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[-] Halitenina 54 Points 5 months ago

I came in here to ban you. You're lucky you have flair, otherwise I would have just removed this thread without even opening it.

Solid, actionable post, straight to the point. I like it, and am curious to see the discussion that results. Stickied.

[-] Head_c 33 Points 5 months ago

But do you know there's mermaids?

[-] Eat_Animals 30 Points 5 months ago

Why were you going to ban the OP?

[-] Htowngetdown 4 Points 5 months ago

Maybe he thought mermaids was a new term for unicorns, or that it was just spam

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[-] nebder 16 Points 5 months ago

https://i.imgur.com/9ttrANK.jpg

Works on mods as well. Gaming dudes is less fun than gals. Still fun

[-] ex_addict_bro 11 Points 5 months ago

Non sequitur obviously works... but is it better than Hellenian Dielectric?

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[-] Luckyluke23 5 Points 5 months ago

is the banned thing a joke? cos it's a solid post really

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[-] virusofthemind 46 Points 5 months ago

Non sequiturs are what's know in hypnosis as "Pattern interrupts". They work by derailing the conscious mind and causing the unconscious mind to "boot up" to the reality of what's going on as something novel is occurring, and novel things are of extreme interest to your limbic brain as they can signify either opportunity or danger.

When such things happen your limbic brain is dropping your mind into a "source code" programme of prepared heuristics to deal with what could happen.

The good news is, that when the limbic brain is in direct contact with the world and freed from the cautionary shackles of the conscious mind it is also easily influenced on an emotional level, as the reverse traffic doesn't have to get through the critical factor of said conscious mind.

A really good non sequitur/pattern interrupt is the phrase....

"What wouldn't happen if you didn't?".

It doesn't make sense without a lot of thinking and creates confusion and thus causes a pattern interrupt and limbic brain activation.

Visual sign of this are loss of focus in the eyes, pupil dilation and a slight softening of the facial tone of the face. Don't get all anal on this though just proceed with the goal in hand.

Here's an example.

Girl: I have to get back to my friends, we're leaving soon.

You: What wouldn't happen if you didn't?

[Watch for the signs and then give your instructions to her unconscious mind; It can't be too direct though, If you say "come back to mine" she will snap out of it, you have to sneak it into play by using what's called a "weasel phrase".]

Example of weasel phrases:

"I'm not saying that you should come back to mine."

"If you wanted to come back to mine."

"Imagine if you come back to mine."

The words come back to mine are the suggestions and the rest of the sentence is the "weasel phrase". When you say the suggestion make full eye contact, this amps up the emotional impact of the words in what's called "Analogical marking".

Once you have fired off the suggestion add a question at the end. A question will derail her conscious mind from what you have just said as her critical factor will want to focus on answering it.

In this case use "I'm not saying that you should come back to mine [pause] but if you did what time could you stay till?"

This is a presupposition that she will come back to yours [and creates the dominant frame] but also gets her to "future pace" herself into a future reality by imagining the scenario ahead of the fact.

Try and have fun.

[-] itiswr1tten 19 Points 5 months ago

I'm just replying so you are encouraged to post more. Not everything on here needs to be simplistic. Get after it.

You haven't made a top level post in 9mos and have 3 total, 2 of which are 2yrs old. POST MORE.

[-] nebder 17 Points 5 months ago

This is worthy of field testing. The holidays are near as well. Perfect timing.

I’m not saying you should tell me all you know but if I wanted to learn more where would I go?

[-] max_peenor 3 Points 5 months ago

This comment explains virtually my entire career in senior management. Also note it is an active defense against those that do it to you even if just by habit or accident.

[-] nebder 8 Points 5 months ago

Going completely off topic from mermaids.

I’m middle management. When I first got into these kinds of roles I was used to direct straighttalk as the typical form of communication. I got spanked more than once thinking that I could go on with business as usual. No sir you’re now playing a new game.

You’ll get schooled very quicklike what powertalk in practice actually looks like. It’s fascinating to watch and horrible to be defenseless against it. You get thrown in & you better swim real quick cuz those sharks are coming. These days I won’t claim to be the greatest but I’m far from the worst. I could swing director yet I know I’m not internally motivated enough towards the goal of hitting VP to actually realize it. I’m getting groomed for director replacement when my true ultimate goal is gtfo of corp life period. There’s a required aptitude towards complete sociopathy that is not in my personality to hit those VP+ levels. I am sociopathic enough to survive and thrive in the director zone so I got that going for me.

I have much less problems getting caught off guard after years of dealing with C level/VP/director types. Now you can watch the setups & powerplays play out in real time. Its a different kind of world that you won’t understand till you experience it.

This one is going in the repertoire. It’s a more formalized version of what I’d been using to weasel around and shift blame or negative attention.

Don’t hate the player hate the game. Or love the game it’s actually fun once you get the rules.

[-] picklerick8879 1 Point 4 months ago

That’s some straight up wizardry!

[-] EdmondDantes777 31 Points 5 months ago

They are obsessed with emojis, I can't understand it. It's so retarded.

[-] laserdicks 49 Points 5 months ago

Emojis are soft. They are pictographic, therefore lending themselves to a variety of meanings, and are by their very nature emotive.

This naturally lends itself to an emotion-centric life method; providing plausible deniability, meaningless emotion communication, and visual distraction with low mental input.

[-] HumanSockPuppet 14 Points 5 months ago

/u/CrazyHorseInvincible, /u/EpicLevelCheater, /u/Halitenina

+1 for laserdicks here.

[-] CrazyHorseInvincible 14 Points 5 months ago

For a moment, I thought I was being called out...

"Wait, how does he know about my laser dick?"

[-] Halitenina 8 Points 5 months ago

On it.

[-] laserdicks 4 Points 5 months ago

Cheers

[-] Tripletag 3 Points 5 months ago

Does this mean we should avoid emojis like the plague when it comes to text game, or use it to our advantage? I always feel like I betray my intellect when I use emoji's, but chicks just can't seem to grasp nuance or sarcasm without them. Not like my guys seem to be able to, at the very least.

[-] nebder 15 Points 5 months ago

????????????????????????????

I stick with these basics. That’s my frequently used ones. Personalize to yourself.

Don’t overuse them, they lose meaning. Better to leave a bit of mystery behind your meaning. I use smirky guy when it need to made clear the difference between straight up asshole response and softening it a bit with the smirk. I never use lol and very rarely use a haha. It’s like if they can’t take a joke then fuck em. I see guys using lol as a way of waffling like a bitch.

Contrived lol example

Youre kinda cute

Youre kinda cute lol

Smirky guy example

Your hair looks like shit

Your hair looks like shit ????

Haha your hair looks like shit

[-] HumanSockPuppet 10 Points 5 months ago

When flirting with girls, always go for less specificity rather than more. Use emojis, but don't waste your time texting back and forth. Just use them enough to create mystery and generate interest.

Read my guide to teasing bitches in the sidebar for more info.

[-] Auvergnat 3 Points 5 months ago

You have to understand that with Game it's not what is delivered that is important but how/when/why it is delivered since the whole point is to control what it implies about you.

For example, if you buy a girl a drink, depending on the context and how/why/when you do it, it can be interpreted as you pathetically begging her for the permission to purchase her attention, or you confidently yet casually leading the interaction.

This is the basic idea behind “frame” and it is iron rule #1 for a reason.

Because it's much easier to classify any given action as good or bad independently of the context and the delivery rather than try to understand that context and delivery and adjust to it, guys will too often try to establish a "always do this" or "never do that" rule. Resist this temptation. Instead thrive to understand the context and deliver according to the frame of the interaction.

For example with emojis: if you use loads of them with lengthy texts, especially if you use them to qualify the sentiment behind a sentence so that your reader doesn't misunderstand what you're trying to say, it'll come off as try-hard and too caring for a positive response. In contrast, if you use them sparingly, especially without text, it'll come off as you not giving a fuck about possible misunderstandings and not wanting to put too much of your precious time into it. Actually, taken to its extreme, it becomes a potent form of game: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/12/24/pictogram-text-game-trending/

Same material, delivered differently. Strive to understand basic theory of female attraction, and you can say or do just about anything because you’ll say and do it the proper way.

[-] nebder 2 Points 5 months ago

Old CH is a goldmine. I can click through the related articles like nobody’s business. Always find a little gem buried in there. Read this article and figured to give it a shot.

Quick FR: I misread a situation this afternoon. Sent pushan birthday cat (he’s adorable look at him) to a comfort test. I do not recommend that. Or try it yourself and see.

Seems like it could work in the right situation. I like weird gifs as responses so stills could be a bit dated these days.

[-] duskyMonk 1 Point 5 months ago

This gif has done the lord's work for me lately : https://giphy.com/gifs/style-doll-SJOEsdVR1Zha8

It's cute/cocky/funny and vaguely makes sense in response to anything a chick can text you.

[-] frooschnate 1 Point 5 months ago

This wouldn’t work for me at all

[-] Auvergnat 1 Point 5 months ago

Quick FR: I misread a situation this afternoon. Sent pushan birthday cat (he’s adorable look at him) to a comfort test. I do not recommend that. Or try it yourself and see.

Your willingness to try different stuff for fun despite risks, and your nonchalance at negative results are, in themselves, the ultimate ZFG attitude.

[-] Tripletag 1 Point 5 months ago

I see what you mean. The less you say, the more she guesses and wonders. I fancy myself a writer, though, so its hard to trim the hedges to the bare bones and simply be as effective, yet mysterious, in your communication as possible. I usually get remarks that I'm being very curt and uninterested during the times I've attemped this.

[-] nebder 4 Points 5 months ago

Auvergnat answered well. I’ll add this: You can maintain eye contact to show your engagement without having to say a lot of words. Not creepy staring, break off and look around at times. However you don’t actually have to say a lot. She’ll take over with some typically inane chattiness. You can either springboard from that or let her run free for a bit to be silent & mysterious.

[-] Auvergnat 3 Points 5 months ago

I understand your struggles. I’m naturally oversharing too. Keep at practicing cutting short your communication to leave more to her imagination, and refocus your tendencies as a writer for this sub, a blog, a book..

And the feedback you mention, yes it’s normal. Doesn’t mean it’s bad though. Remember watch what they do, not what they say. But if you observe that it actually makes them disengage, then counter that effect by asking them questions. Get them talking. They’ll actually be more eager to talk to fill the convo gaps that you create.

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[-] forever_alpha 30 Points 5 months ago

I used to fuck around with weird „openers“ back in my Pick Up Artist time. Quickly I’ve discovered that words don’t matter at all.

I tried more and more just plain weird shit like „hey excuse me, do you put bacon in potatoe salad?“ and it worked like a charm.

If you’ve never tried it - try it. Works like a charm.

P.S: But don’t fall out of frame no matter how confused the girl looks/reacts.

[-] nebder 11 Points 5 months ago

Used to try all kinds of canned shit when I was getting my sea legs. Now it’s just a half smirk and a hey or hello. Maybe a situational thing like if we’re in line together. Helps that I’m now mostly happy in my skin and my eyes have a happy fun twinkle in them. I’ve gotten past the tryhard into my natural funloving asshole self.

Less is more. Judge the response levels, chitchat a bit then decide to keep going or eject. You pick up on gauging interest rather quickly actually. It’s just a girl at the end of the day fuck it

[-] forever_alpha 2 Points 5 months ago

I agree with you. Now that I’m 29 I wouldn’t open like this anymore at all.

But especially for newbies lacking the confidence to simply say „hey“ with a smirk (which - lets be real - for many guys simply doesn’t work because of their insecurities, that women can smell from afar) should give it a shot in my opinion.

You and I might have more experience but others also need to not only read, but feel, that words really don’t matter. They need to experience it first hand.

[-] jbpostv 7 Points 5 months ago

It’s so hard to get out of the rational/logical thought frame but it’s literally just a stream of emotions and the emotions words bring up. Women like Shakespeare because it doesn’t make sense but makes them feel something.

[-] Mukato 4 Points 5 months ago

hey excuse me, do you put bacon in potatoe salad?

That's a really good question though; who he hell DOESN'T put bacon in their potato salad???!!

[-] Damien_Scott 1 Point 4 months ago

I feel like the women of my life have kept from me something magical and life altering.... AWALT.

[-] alleyteris 21 Points 5 months ago

Can someone explain to me what does that mean? My english are good but still cannot understand, please use a simple explanation

[-] Count_Giggles 56 Points 5 months ago
[-] ZoroasterFlame 10 Points 5 months ago

Sorry to break it to you, but if you can't understand this your English is not very good. What language do you speak? If you speak Spanish I can translate.

[-] Kurush559 19 Points 5 months ago

First of all i like your username, mine used to be similar.

Secondly - how many native anglophones do you think have an understanding of the term non-sequitur?

[-] alleyteris 6 Points 5 months ago

Well my first language is Greek and i dont get to use english IRL much so i tend to forget words and meaning of words

[-] daveed1297 28 Points 5 months ago

He is saying if you are talking with a girl, and it gets very boring (dull, not going to make anything happen) then you can use a non-sequitor. This is when you bring in a new topic that has NO connection to the talk you are having with her. It's 1) surprising (which causes emotional response) and 2) allows you to start fresh

[-] alleyteris 7 Points 5 months ago

Got it , thank you for the clarification

[-] frooschnate 2 Points 5 months ago

What language do you speak? If you speak Spanish I can translate.

See this is all you had to say to communicate the same thing lil man.

Always say less than necessary

[-] WildPhilosophy 7 Points 5 months ago

He is saying that when women are giving you a shit test, and you don't know how to pass it, you can just change the topic to something else. In this case, the new mermaid emojis. And then you don't have to talk about the thing you don't want to talk about.

[-] jbpostv 18 Points 5 months ago

Stumbled upon nonsequitor game without realizing it. 2 years back I had this outer game technique where I’d slightly slow down my speech and make my gestures flowing then gracefully make a fist in front of me and say “boom” where it fits in conversation then shift to direct eye contact. If you look through body language, the fist communicates dominance, power, aggression and paired with this explosive onomatopoeia and direct sexual eye contact got these crazy reactions like “omg what’s your name”, instant make outs etc. Goes to show how women listen entirely to their feelings and hardly think about what you’re saying at all. Try the boom this week ✊????

[-] madmike11 33 Points 5 months ago

borderline retarded... but I'll test it

[-] Friendly_Jackal 18 Points 5 months ago

Borderline? I picture this dude walking around everywhere, pumping his arms like a freight train, clenched fist punching the air yelling "BOOM, BOOM, BOOM" with every thrust while staring directly at every single person he passes.

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[-] frooschnate 1 Point 5 months ago

This mf is 6ix9ine jajajaja

[-] bsutansalt 11 Points 5 months ago

Shit test: PASSED!

[-] hearse223 6 Points 5 months ago

In otherwords, we think too much.

Dont worry about what to say as much as how to control emotions.

[-] itiswr1tten 5 Points 5 months ago

The golden nugget of PUA wisdom was that you, the man, can completely control the conversation. PUAs had gimmicks and techniques to do this, which is where the praxeology fell short - it was a routine and not truly a mindset.

TRP came around and vanguard posters characterized "frame" as the mindset that underpins the type of success PUAs were having. The gimmicks communicated NGAF, abundance, and indifference.

What is non sequitor? The literal meaning is something that doesn't logically follow the previous statement. It's incredibly effective because what you do with mermaids is break the conversation you don't want to have, and redirect to yourself. She's then looking to you for an explanation.

This is a practical way to re-frame the conversation. Hilarious and effective.

[-] Flying_Wingback 3 Points 5 months ago

I just grab my girl by the throat mid conversation and kiss her if she talks about shit I don't care about. Has worked so far

[-] chazthundergut 2 Points 5 months ago

Great playful frame control

[-] FormerBlueFool 2 Points 5 months ago

Man I do this successfully in my personal and professional life, never paid much attention to it.

Now to put it to work with my game!

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This post is smarter than what it looks like at a first glance.

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[-] apost54 1 Point 5 months ago

I’m already an ADD wackjob so what do I have to lose?

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[-] Thisismybot8 1 Point 5 months ago

Lol post the rest of the convo please.