BP myths float around in areas of life outside romantic relationships and women as well. There is this romantic idea that one day you're going to find your one true passion and then you will not have to work another day of your life. And today, I am going to call out the BS on this, because this statement has been hurled around without any idea what it really means, and it's ruined a whole generation from real growth.
In my university I've seen far too many people go down the mediocre path thinking that their passion will one day come after which their life will be complete. It was silly and they missed all the opportunities in front of them, never satisfied for too long with any one. As soon as things got a bit tough, jump ship. There are a lot of people who just changed majors as soon as things got tough. I swear a lot of student debt is simply because people want BP love for their "passion" rather than being passionate as a way of living, and putting that energy into something that is actually worth the investment.
And we wonder why they're doing the same thing in relationships as well.
First of all, this very idea simply postpones your best living to the future, which kind of guarantees that it's never going to happen. It's reactive, and another form of blue pill "Happily Ever After" myth. And it fails because the only real life you ever have is the life you've got right now.
There is no "ultimate life purpose" or "passion" as we are told to believe it is. This is yet another BP oneitis idea - only this is applied to your purpose rather than a girl. Look around and see what you can contribute without reservations. When ideas start to come, you won't have time or energy for all of them - there are that many issues out there to solve.
And don't think the road is easy. If I make you work all day on your "passion", for most BP guys it will evaporate like water in the Atacama desert. As a man, there is no escape from the blood, sweat and tears. The very word "passion" comes from a latin word that means "pain". Romance is sweet, but it is naively idealistic. It seldom passes the test of reality. You can call anything as your passion at the start, but the work involved in getting into the 99th or 99.9th percentile (yes) will test your BP ideas.
Just like there is no "The one woman" there is no "The one purpose". When you stop thinking about this one ultimate purpose that will be perfect for you and complete your existence -- only then you come back down to reality and look around. You'll be present for what's in front of you rather than waiting for something to come in the future - and that's really the only reality you've ever got. Everyone creates their future in this moment all the time with whatever they've got. That's the point that you realize when you come back down to this moment. This moment is the only one where you're creating. When you wait for the future or stay stuck in the past, you don't live. Your energy and ideas do not flow.
There are many real problems and things you can do right now however - and you need not spin your work with the complexities of spinning plates. Ok, no one asked you to solve all the world's issues, nor are you bigger than the totality of life itself, but look around. You will find a lot of stuff that no one bothers to address because they're all stuck in needy, reactive, consumer entitled mentalities. Even making a difference in one of them will change your life in ways you didn't imagine.
Anything that you think will complete your quest or whatever variation of it - it's bound to show you its limits sooner or later. Then you'll start thinking "This doesn't <cough> <cough> feel right. Maybe I'm meant for some other stuff" - ok, sometimes this is true. Most jobs suck after a point. Lots of people suddenly hit on an opportunity and took it and changed tracks and became something greater than what they'd been before. This is all true.
But it doesn't happen in a needy manner - you were needy, then you found your purpose and now you're blissed out. So long as you're needy, you'll keep drifting from purpose to purpose and keep wondering why you still feel incomplete. It's one more BP belief that has probably ruined an entire generation of homo sapiens who find to their shock that the world ain't idealistic as they thought it should be
Well, the real problem is YOU. You lack abundance. You think like a consumer. You believe stuff that isn't real and it's impossible. This is at the root of your incompleteness that's keeping you seeking. You think there's one and only "ideal purpose, career, woman, or way to life your life" and those ideas become your biggest limitation. You could actually find a lot more if you drop your ideas of oneitis in your life. You are incomplete because of your lack of abundance. Your creative energy is stuck and can't flow because your beliefs are unrealistic and self sabotaging. That is causing stress and pain within you, and it is guaranteed to ensure that you never get what you want.
Here's the reality. Most people just came up with ideas because something in their life sucked and they wanted to solve it. There was a need and it had to be resolved. The rest is a lot of blood sweat and tears, and only someone with some measure of abundance can even go ahead and sweat it out - reactive people who're consumers simply sit on the sidelines and criticize about how bad the world is - proactive people are the only ones abundant enough to try and do something about it. None of them thought that this was going to be really their ultimate purpose. For most of them, dropping their ideas of oneitis in life led them to find abilities they never even knew they had. And that's how the passion or life purpose began to grow and happen.
As an example, look at Grover (NMMNG). His problem was he began to attach expectations to his book, thinking it ought to reach Oprah, touch a lot of people, be absolutely perfect, etc. As soon as he got outcome dependent, work stalled. The reality is that no one can really work on an outcome, only a person and a process. The outcome is what happens at the end, whereas the reality was that his present should have only been occupied with the process of writing his book. He finally completed his book when he dropped all the ideas of what it should do and just did what he felt was the right thing needed for this world. That was possible (and it was the only really possible thing), so it happened.
There's another guy called Mike Matthews who spent 7 years making limited gains, found out what was wrong, built himself up, decided to build others up, and now he's probably the biggest fitness resource out there on the internet. He wrote 2 books that are now up there with Mark Ripptoe's starting strength. I learnt how to lift and diet from his blog and books - for the first time I made real, shocking gains. I don't think he fancied it would become something that big in such a short time, but he just kept at it and it got better and better and better, and now it's his life purpose. That's how abundance works. A needy guy would have simply cursed the imperfect world for having cheated him and would not have progressed beyond giving his gym a 1 star review on google, and still stayed fat or skinny a decade later.
There's a guy called Mate Rimac who essentially created the automobile industry that was non-existent in his country. Right now, he just made the most powerful production car in any category, the Rimac C_Two, with 1914 HP.
What people fail to realize is that "Finding your passion" is a statement that can only be said when someone has gone through the whole process of growth, faced everything that comes along the way and found success and fulfillment in whatever they have done. Passion is something built over a lifetime as a result of being passionate and determined, it must never be confused with the initial lure of the honeymoon phase. This is not the love of instant attraction, it is the love created by a lifetime of devotion.
The myth tries to tell youngsters that they'll never to face difficulties or BS along their way, which is blatantly untrue. The reality is that the master has faced and overcome more obstacles and failures than the student has even tried or is capable of imagining.
In retrospect, you look back and many of those difficulties were not really so bad when you see them in the light of growth and evolution. That realization brings new peace and strength within oneself. Only the guy who's built his body up from scratch and is now an inspiration to others has the right to say that "Fitness is my passion". The beginner doesn't really know what that even means.
Proactive people who've gone the distance and have come to the top where they reap the fruits of their crop are the only ones with any right to talk about their life purpose. Reactive people who expect to one day find their ultimate purpose will never find anything worth it.
Many others didn't have a choice, sometimes life just went in a certain direction, but accepted it and excelled at it. For most of humanity, we were in fact like this. It's only in the 21st century that we're spoiled for choice. And now we wonder which of them is the right one, when in reality none of them are really perfect. There is no perfection in life except the level of perfection you bring into it. It's a journey, not an end goal.
Giving up the idea of the "idealized one option" is the best thing you can do with your life - because that's when you'll look around and find a thousand other options for taking, which you never noticed. Our ancestors would pity us because they didn't have jack shit in comparison to what we have, but they invented everything we use today, while we just sit and whine expecting the world to offer itself up on a platter. Reactive people simply keep waiting and become resentful when there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Proactive and abundant people just invented the torch instead. Necessity is the mother of invention. Abundance is the mother of opportunity.
Proactive people often have no idea that their impact really turned out to be so significant and are often shocked by the results and what abundance flows into their lives - but it's always as an outcome. The only thing they did right was they worked on themselves and their work and saw an opportunity and went for it. What really drives proactive people is not the idealized end reward, but belief and a willingness to try where other people's own minds tell them that they can't do shit - and therefore other people really can't do shit. Most proactive people got mocked in the beginning, people told them they were crazy, but eventually those same critics shamelessly become their biggest fans (although some of them are too stuck in their jealousy and self hate to ever admit it).
TRP and it's associated impact itself is an example. I am sure no one did what they did thinking that they are certain to have this much of an impact - they did what they knew was needed. Somehow it came up to the 21 convention, to the point where BP society sees awakened men as a threat. I'm honestly surprised it got this far. I'm in fact shocked I'm even able to grasp and write this. In the last one year, I've used my writing skills to get noticed in my personal circles. I didn't expect it would unfold like this, or where it will lead to next, but hey, I've never felt more energized and alive either, despite difficulties.
Don't think that just because you see and opportunity, life is settled. It ain't settled until it's done. If you're really abundant, you can put in the effort as well. Do not think that life will be free of difficulties or growing pains, or that these difficulties are even a bad thing in the first place. This is unrealistic. When one sees life in terms of growth and evolution, one comes to a state of acceptance and then focuses on doing what they can with what they've got - consequently one becomes stronger and more joyful. When we believe that difficulties and discomfort are a totally bad thing, a sign that something is wrong, that life is only supposed to be full of pleasures, that one day we will be forever free from if we just find that special something or someone, we're setting our generation up for disaster. You need not believe me, just look at the obesity epidemic vs the ones who're making themselves fit in the gym.
The life purpose is not something that happens in the beginning. It's the result of a lifetime of purposeful living. Reactive people want it to happen before the beginning, which is BS. For proactive people, passion is a way of life, not some thing that you find one day and then life's perfect.
The guys who talk about not working another day are already fulfilled within to a great extent and they're hardy enough to tolerate pain and sweat. They're the only ones with any right to use the term. BP guys listen to that, then they listen to their ideas of what they think it means, and they will get disappointed.
Oneitis locks you up in a limited range of possibilities and it locks your energy into a conditional existence who's conditions can never be truly met. The lack of energy and abundance mentality in your life will make you depressed and resentful down the road.
If you plant a tree and water it for the sole purpose of giving you a perfect fruit, you'll be disappointed when things don't happen as expected. If you plant a tree because it's the right thing to do and you can do it, you might end up planting an entire rainforest of trees over a lifetime and inspire a whole bunch of other people as well. Lots of things happen that are far more significant than your limited ideas of "life purpose". The guy who made the rainforest can talk about how it ended up becoming his life purpose. The guy who's waiting to find his life purpose before planting a single tree won't plant a single one in his lifetime, and he'll still be waiting in the future because life never happens in the future, it happens now. There is actually a guy who did this.
There is no perfect life in the future, there is only the real life you live right now.
There is no one passion or ultimate life purpose out there. But if you look around, there are in fact many things you can do, and over a lifetime of dedication and success, you might look back and talk about how one of them became your passion or life purpose. Ideas are abundant, it's just that we need them to be in a way that they can never be, which is why we never find them.
Oneitis makes you needy for the perfect life purpose that never comes, abundance makes you willing to invest in a thousand purposes and make a difference in at least some of them. You might be good at a few things better than others, and so you'll tailor your approach accordingly. Your time and energy is limited, the requirements are exacting and lofty, and your abilities specialized, so don't be surprised if you can only end up doing justice to 1 or 2 things, but hey, that's how it works. Those then become your passion or purpose. Even they aren't forever. Over your life, things may change, and other roads may open up as well.
In a feminized BP society where fleeting emotions are given far more importance than strength and stability, this is yet another consequence of people saying things without any idea what they're talking about - it is childish prattle. This whole idea that difficulties are a bad thing and that we'll be free of them and live "Happily ever after" as soon as we get that "one purpose" or that "one person" is bullshit that has ruined an entire generation with expectations that are totally out of tune with life, and set them up for disappointment, and debt, that they are then incapable of handling, because they lack strength and stability, and money.
It is much easier to just be passionate and proactive as a way of being than to make it dependent on an ideal that does not exist. Only when the tree of devotion has fully grown and come full circle do words like passion or love actually mean something that works.
RPSilverfox 5y ago
|There is no perfect life in the future, there is only the real life you live right now.
This is powerful as so many people I know base their happiness on what they believe the future will bring them (ie. the perfect girl, job or to move to X place). This has been one of my RP awakenings because I once thought this way and what I’ve learned is that to base your happiness on a future event is to waste today. A good example is someone who recently retired at work at the age of 69. Good for him, but to listen to my coworkers talk about it was depressing. I saw a lot of jealousy and statements like “wish I could retire.” Sure, we all want to retire one day and should definitely save for it, but don’t act like having to work is drudgery. Enjoy today and never wish your life away.
SKRedPill 5y ago
Expecting the impossible is a path to certain disappointment. This statement almost encapsulates RP in a nutshell.
Warrior_King02 5y ago
Not sure how I feel about this post so here’s my perspective on things. I believe that we all do have a purpose in life and that to find that purpose one mustn’t be stagnant but proactive and seek out opportunities and seize them. Then, as you’re trying new things you come across one thing they you enjoy a lot and you think “Hey this is pretty good” and then you work hard on it ever single day and then one day it becomes your career. For example: Being an entrepreneur. Sure, it takes a shit ton of effort and tons of sacrifice but eventually if you play your cards right and stay persistent it works out. I don’t believe that there is this “one passion” for me, what I do believe is that we all have a purpose and it’s up to us to find what that purpose is. Tell me your thoughts
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chazthundergut 5y ago
Yea but we don't need to get bogged down in semantics.
Find what you are passionate about, find your mission, and throw yourself into it.
z2a1-9 5y ago
Good read and motivational!
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peskysquirms 5y ago
Will I settle for what's available in front of me, or will I shoot for the stars?
Will I accept my lot, will I eat the scraps willingly, and take what is offered without a thought or a care?
Whores do the same.
Battagliare 5y ago
You can not understand the difference between being obsessed with future and having goals. Sure it is very important for a man to have a way to live, his own philosophy and it is also very important to live in the moment instead being stuck at past or obsessed with future, that being said this does not prevents you to have an ultimate goal.
You can imagine this as enjoying the flowers near the road or the cool breeze meanwhile walking to a destination.
SKRedPill 5y ago
Goals are different from outcomes. Goals are stuff you can work with right from the beginning, outcomes happen at the end and you can only accept them and move on.
The problem starts when people can't differentiate between a goal and an outcome.
Everyone creates their future in this moment all the time with whatever they've got. That's the point that you realize when you come back down to this moment.
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Kpwn88 5y ago
tl:dr Anything worth doing, is worth doing right.
Eclipsespirit 5y ago
I just want to thank you for this post man. It relates to my present mental state and my struggles at the moment. So thank you for this. I have some clarity.
Isbjornsolo 5y ago
I think you've gone far too mirco on the perfect calling etc It's not a specific job or craft. It's more an overarching objective. I.e. Musk is currently a problem solver for society at large. He just happens to be doing this through transport. In 10 years time it could be something completly different (probably food & water).
The best in the world sweat & toil to become who they are in their specific field. It starts with a seed of something larger than what the person ends up putting out. I.e. Helping people become healthier, then distills it in to a training philosophy/programme as Ripptoe has. If you told most people what the first 6 months of your mission would entail 99% people say "fuck that, i'll stick with my 9-5"
The people perfecting their craft are competing with others to outdo them for glory & fame. Some may never want to work another day in their lives.There are a few that might, but it's a small %. I've met & worked with business owners who sell up and walk away. They get itchy and come charging back. It's in their blood to compete & win. They can't just switch it off and walk away. Call them Alpha or whatever, but you want them as allies when an economic downturn happens.
The ones who want the laptop lifestyle/beach life are normally snake oil salesmen. Use them for your own ends or leave them the hell alone. Observe law 21 & 29.
A lifes purpose usually comes from a moment of great pain or relaisation. Most likely both mixed in situ. Speak with any self employed person about why they do what they do (beyond money) and you can uncover their lifes mission without them even knowing it. Again use this to your advantage in the future.
N.B. Women go weak at the knees when you talk about a project you're working on with a feverish passion. It could be developing a new concrete or learning the guitar. Remember Feelz über alles. Try it sometime (don't mention the fucking gym though, you sound like a boring twat).
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Olram_Sacul 5y ago
This post is pure gold. True eye-opening shit
juddshanks 5y ago
I think there's a lot of truth to this post.
Yes some people find one particular thing they really like doing and want to do for the rest of your life. But 'find your true passion' often ends up being shorthand for 'be a lazy undisciplined prick and cruise through life underachieving hoping your dream job drops into your lap'
The truth is in most professions the entry level jobs kind of suck and the more senior jobs are more interesting and rewarding. You probably won't get a look at the senior jobs unless you're prepared to work hard in a shitty job for a while.
That doesn't mean you need to persevere in a career you really really hate, but if you don't know what your passion is you're probably best served by throwing yourself into whatever you're doing and trying to do it very well.
ahg1008 5y ago
You do realize that whatever people call their true calling is basically the one thing out of thousands that worked for them?
The whole idea of a purpose/calling isn't blue pilled. Your interpretation of how it should be is.
I don't think you've ever felt the way it feels - you're the best man out athere at something.
The whole post is quite useless. Do not apply sexual strategy to everything in life or else your life will become a series of orgasms. Full of highs and lows.
SKRedPill 5y ago
You tried one thousand things that did not work!!? Really? Most people I know did like 3-4 things out of which 1 worked. Even Elon Musk might have had a thousand ideas, but at the moment, he's doing like 4 big ones? Never mind how BP he is with women...
You have any idea how many successful people did one thing right? Some of them didn't even choose.
Most people only do 1 thing because that's all the time and energy they've really got.
Howdoiusesync 5y ago
Bro Elon is still in the same mindset and world he was when he made PayPal.
Not shitting on you or anything but this really seems a very bad way at looking at purpose. There is a certain spark that drives a person harder than ever that they are willing to make a sacrifice for. It depends on what they value not what theyre purpose is. Going in with the idea of "Pick a purpose" does not work because if it were true a majority of people would be artists because they "love art." There is a bridge that many do not cross because they are too arrogant to the fact of learning. Why wouldn't they learn, lack of drive or something more to that one thing.
When you even state the outcome dependency negates the purpose of results is completely wrong. I've spent time to further my skills in fields that I could never stop thinking about, even when i was in LTR's and with friends. That was to get better.
How to get better, where do I focus, what needs tuning, are examples of where you know what you want and how to achieve them.
Sorry bro but this is a cool and interesting look on life and human motivates but it really ain't it. You're looking at what makes a person has a serious interest that could just be their personality type as too binary rather than being what makes you human.
ahg1008 5y ago
And yet here you are - sperging out lame ass theories about life and over-analyzing shit.
Guess failing at 3-4 things doesn't quite give you the required perspective :P
ahg1008 5y ago
trying and failing at a thousand things is a figurative thing not a literal one.
SKRedPill 5y ago
Tell that to the guy who made the light bulb.
Alphalizard1990 5y ago
The guy who made the lightbulb clearly had meaning and purpose. And accomplished more than you will on this planet.
Will people remember your name in 100 years from now?
Know who you where what you did?
I fucking doubt it.
ahg1008 5y ago
Again. You confuse the big picture with the smaller one. Micro goals with macro goals.
I'd suggest you get very good at something.. Like be in the top 99 percentile.
When that day comes , read the post and your comments. You'll realize what I'm trying to say.
SKRedPill 5y ago
Being an Ivy League graduate in my country. I do not disagree with this. There are things for which people in my country need to be in the top 99.9th percentile just to get in, and I have been there. Didn't stop me from being BP and might have in fact contributed to my illusions. I'm just saying don't expect that there will be that one magical thing that you will one day find and fall in love with and then become great in. Start now with what options are in front of you.
Eventually one or 2 things will have to be prioritized. I said it as much in my post. But in my university I've seen far too many people go down the mediocre path thinking that their passion will one day come after which their life will be complete. It was silly and they missed all the opportunities in front of them, never satisfied for too long with any one. As soon as things got a bit tough, jump ship.
And we wonder why they're doing the same thing in relationships as well.
ahg1008 5y ago
I totally agree with this. I just want people to be cautious while blindly applying trp theory in everything. Yes it does work for a lot of things but you want to develop your independent critical thinking skills.
Trp was just the entry to the rabbit hole. After that you'll have to figure things out on your own.
Howdoiusesync 5y ago
Being an Ivy league student myself, they lack the fundamental creativity to use it to further themselves rather than just choose it because "they like it".
I know many people who just like things and are terrible at it. You can apply that with much. When youre surround more by people who are on a higher scale than a majority there is a new level of thinking that is required to excel there no? One dude from my school was terrible at school but finished got his shit and used it to make a currency app that is now used almost by everyone to send money. It's about you and what you use with your time and knowledge. I could be the best coder in the world but If i have no creativity with it and have a creative mind that goes with it I will never be more than a tool for someone that is.
Standgrounding 5y ago
True that.
I had mad oneitis for physics in high school. I ignored everything else. No friends, parties, etc...
Sophomore year in uni? On borderline of actually dropping out.
jalapenotrp 5y ago
Kudos to you man, physicists have a special way of looking at the world.
p3terjames 5y ago
Hey man i’m a high school student planning to study physics in uni .. what made you almost drop out?
Standgrounding 5y ago
The sheer difference that is HS physics and uni physics. The amount of complex maths is driving me mad.
And yes i am that type of guy to hate integrals and differentials and anything more complex than that in math
chaseemall 5y ago
Learn to love it man. Try taking an Introduction to Higher Math course if you can.
GLADmyNAMEaintDICK 5y ago
It can become so abstract that you don't see why you could want to put in so much time and effort. If you know for a fact where physics can take you then do it. If you're blind and have a hunch that your current interest will be sustained then do more research into the field.
p3terjames 5y ago
I can’t know with certainty but i’m interested in studying statistical physics to go into finance ultimately.
Finexis 5y ago
Statistical physics has absolutely nothing to do with finance, and the 'statistics' in it simply means that is about large ensembles of particles like gases or spins. For a career in (mathematical) finance you need econometrics, stochastic calculus and mathematical statistics, but first rigorous probablity theory to set the foundations.
However, because of the sheer level of abstractedness in theoretical physics (especially if you're at the level of advanced QM or quantum field theory), the transition from theoretical physics to econometrics / mathematical finance is not so difficult. The other way around is impossible. A theoretical physics degree is always an excellent degree.
(Source: I major in both theoretical physics and econometrics)
p3terjames 5y ago
Thank you thank you .. just wondering , have you done any research in theoretical physics (or is it mandatory)? And do you think research as an undergrad is necessary when transitioning to econometrics / mathematical finance ?
Finexis 5y ago
No, I almost have my bachelor's degree and currently studied it for 4 years. It will take many, many years (likely at least 10 years of intense study / supervised research) before you're acquinted with theoretical physics at current, modern research level and can approximately follow the concepts (like advanced GR and QFT / string theory / ADS CFT correspondence / Renormalization) in journals like Nature. For the 99.9% of the people that are not 'gifted' it is probably in their better interest to finish either an undergrad or grad (or bachelor/master if you live in europe) degree and then do something else with their intelligence, like econometrics.
If you want to transition to econometrics and math finance, see if your university provides a minor in this field, or just take courses. You can also immediately start to study econometrics or mathematical finance as a master's degree after your bachelor in phyiscs. It is in fact easier than physics and you will see that the avarage intelligence of the people there is substantially lower, which means you're at an advantage coming from physics.
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chaseemall 5y ago
I think there is an important caveat, and that is that you may have a single life passion, but this life passion must be intrinsic, something which you do of your own self, not given you by other people. Im talking about a solitary or otherwise life-situation independent pursuit done for the sake of the thing itself, that is, a pursuit of a virtuous activity for the sake of excellence.
Art, athletics, etc. These callings are, in general independent of your financial pursuits and situation. Obviously, team sports only last to a certain point, but triathlons, powerlifting, etc can be pursued your whole life with almost minimal resources. Poetry requires nothing but time, dedication, and the love of the muses. Blacksmithing and woodworking are classical examples of this sort of masculine pursuit.
As career advice, OP is 100% on point, but I just wanted to make the clarification
benbrasford 5y ago
Awesome post. The one thing that I had to accept was that there is a reality and not perception of reality, nor the idea that reality is relative to my individual self. That was my new age days. While it is true, that we have our own reality, so to speak, this has nothing to do with reality in general other than the fact that we choose to engage it as it is. It's not about seeing the world for what you want it to be, it's about seeing for the world for what it is and recognizing that there is something that you can do about it.
jalapenotrp 5y ago
I've been spending a lot of time thinking about this concept in philosophy called "idealism" and that's the idea that you shape your own reality based on how you perceive the world. In other words, your interpretation of the world is based on on your ideas, beliefs, and your entire perception of the physical world.
It sounds like a strange idea, but is worth noting that quantum mechanics one of the most successful theories in physics is based on this idea.
benbrasford 5y ago
That idea seems much more plausible than what I see going on within modern New Age. Some state that you can change your outer reality from your inner reality. Well, I'm sure that that needs some kind of correct approach and some basis that can take place within objective reality.
PhasmaFrank 5y ago
holy shit, this is the exact way ive been feeling lately, after that ideal perception of reality gets crushed by the actual reality, its hard to explain, but I have been feeling that exact thing, its weird
Alphalizard1990 5y ago
Meaning and purpose is important.
Life has no meaning.
But it's up to you to make your own meaning and purpose out of life.
No meaning no purpose is a sad place to be.
Stinkmissle 5y ago
Sometimes it can scare you straight though. Short of blowing your brains out or hurting someone, I reccomend sinking to the bottom if you're close to it. You might float up to the top in a hurried panic.
tyronethejabrone 5y ago
No doubt. A lot of people are lost and just don’t understand this though. They have this false narrative in their head that one day they will have ‘made it’, yet that day never comes. These people are often the ones that are complacent, afraid and unwilling to take bold action that creates real change. Proactive people have an entrepreneurship mindset. They see value that they can provide and they provide it in an attempt to benefit themselves or those being serviced.
As you said, life has no meaning and it is up to us to find that meaning. The best way to live, the best purpose to have, is just to live purposefully. Many people confuse their ultimate goal with what they feel is their calling and will be left unfulfilled in life whether they reach it or not.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
I’ve kind of reached the point where I decided there is no meaning or purpose. It’s pretty depressing and I haven’t really been myself since.
Mylaur 5y ago
No meaning no purpose means you have no reasons to live... so depression comes. You need to have responsibility man.
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MilkMoney111 5y ago
Try to reframe. All the chains are gone. You can take whatever path you wish. Your life is 100% in your hands and you decide what to make of it. That's masculinity. Life has no meaning? So what? You can give it whatever meaning you want your little time here. You have all the power now.
SKRedPill 5y ago
That's the problem. There's nothing to push him anymore, and he can't make his own life run if there isn't something compelling him all the time. Shows you how strong survival pressure is, and how incapable most people are at actually choosing and handling freedom.
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Alphalizard1990 5y ago
I think it's great, depends on how you look at it.
Isn't it better you can make your own meaning and purpose, it's all in your power. There is no set script for you.
Use your own pen to write your own story.
PhasmaFrank 5y ago
This, I feel we always try to get the logic out of things, but the cool thing about life is that you can just live if you goddamn please
the-dan-man 5y ago
This is the secret that takes many men years to figure out. Most men can swept up in expectations and vices and ego fulfillment etc. And, in a way you can not blame them, because there is more drama and excitement in all that than simply living however you like, like the Budhha did for example. Sitting under a tree meditating doing nothing all day, what could be better than that?
SKRedPill 5y ago
Oh, that's fantastic in a way. You can relax and just pay attention to life all around you. It might give you new ideas.
I get this emotion. It is the result of investing yourself in an end result that is ultimately not permanent, but this is like trying to live in the future, which is impossible because no one lives in the future, they live now. In the process of reaching an end goal, you've totally forgotten that life happens along the way and not over there, until you reach it. What's the point you might be thinking?
Yes there is none, except what you choose. The problem with freedom is that you have to choose by yourself, there's nothing to compel you. Ironically it kind of shows how utterly unprepared most men are to control their own lives when given the wheel. Most people just do stuff when life kicks them in the arse or when hormones run wild. Shows you how important survival was to us - when survival isn't a pressure, we literally have no idea how to drive our lives. Where's the end of life to run to? There's no real end except when you die, and if you have a great life, why would you want to die?
Do a favour to yourself, keep your wallet at home, and wander your whole town till you're craving for hunger. You will have to then come home and at least cook up a half decent meal for yourself.
Your mind can keep bullshitting itself, but stay 2 minutes without oxygen and your body will say "Fuck you and your ideas. I wanna live and I need air!"
growingstronk 5y ago
i think one of the saddest parts about realizing there is no end game is that when you delete the video games, try to quit watching porn, and try to quit watching tv in the name of living life in the moment. Then you just kinda sit there and realize you've been unhappy for god knows how long, have no real serious hobbies to pursue, and you've been putting on this shitty band-aid for forever. Worst of all, you dont know where to begin.
SKRedPill 5y ago
You carry a negative vibration within. Fix that.
Look bud, if you can be at peace with yourself without any of these band aids, you can do almost anything and your mind won't crave the escape it seeks from it's own restlessness.
growingstronk 5y ago
Agreed. Figuring out how to get to that point is the hard part of course. I'd like to think im on my way though. Thank you kind stranger!
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pizzae 5y ago
I said this earlier a long time ago.
BP = Focus on one thing; "the one". Either women, or purpose, it doesn't matter, it's putting all of your eggs in one basket.
RP = Focusing on many things; not attached. Again, either women or purpose. Never put your eggs in one basket.
Maybe lots of guys here have the abundance mentality and are "red pill" when it comes to women, but when it comes to the more spiritual side of life, they are just as blue pill as everyone else. Attachment = weakness.
Just lmao @ falling for your purpose like it's your oneitis. Why are people here making exceptions?
Either go TRP all the way or not at all. There is no half assing this.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
I don't think that was the point Focussing on one thing or several things. This more being proactive or reactive.
You see there likely a woman with you'd life a fantastic life if you find her or at least that would help significantly. That could be your thing, however stupid it make look like to us.
It isn't important if that idea is flawed or not. But with that idea, a pro-active person will work a lot toward that goal. It will include knowing himself, what he is after, what would be the ideal woman for him. He will ensure that she will want to stay with him too, because he know that otherwise he is bound to fail. Then because he is proactive, on top of ensuring he can actract such woman, he will look for her and make for many encounter, maybe visit the world and all. Also he will realise that he can't have the best woman but that this isn't important, that a great one is sufficiant. While he would settle for a great one and ensure the relation work well on the long term, if it finally fail, he will just look for another one. Ultimately he will never stop learning, improviing. Along the way he would likely find TRP and many other stuff.
He may change his mind on the idea or not, when he achieve the expected outcome, he may decide to focus more on something else. Maybe he discover that finally there things he would prefer than just having a great wife.
The idea itself is not even so important, the journey is important. Because of the effort and time put on the task, he will grow, learn, evolve, master things and even if he see that ultimately the initial goal is not relevant to him anymore, he will be able to go toward the next goal with all that great experience behind him and he will grow even more.
The thing is being pro-active or reactive or passive. People, not only just women clearly prefer pro-active people. We want them as leader, we are impressed by their success and how they try again in the event of failure and are also able to go toward the next goal if necessary.
TheStoicCrane 5y ago
Tell that to Arnold Swarzeneggar. All he fixated on since the age of 13 was becoming a champion bodybuilder. He made no contingencies because all he wanted to be at the time was a champion like his role models. Look where it got him.
TRP "Alpha" "Beta" slogan strictly applies to sexual strategy. Apply it to other areas at your own risk.
SKRedPill 5y ago
As a child, it is sometimes easier to make choices, because of the strength of emotion that kind of makes you not think too much about the difficulties. The fact is, Arnold succeeded because he didn't see the pain as a bad thing. He wasn't the type who starts getting a mid life crisis as soon as things got slightly difficult and he had to grind it out. That's the problem I'm trying to highlight.
In a feminized BP society where fleeting emotions are given far more importance than strength and stability, this is yet another consequence of people saying things without any idea what they're talking about. Emotions are just waves on the lake, they are neither strong nor stable. This whole idea that difficulties are a bad thing and that we'll be free of them as soon as we get that "one purpose" or that "one person" is bullshit that has ruined an entire generation with expectations that are totally out of tune with life, and set them up for disappointment, and debt, that they are then incapable of handling, because they lack strength and stability.
TheStoicCrane 5y ago
This I agree with. It may be the way Western men are acculturated especially by the schooling system, at least in the States.
Instead of developing a hollistic perspective that lasting success is a manifestation of learning from repeated failures and the perservence to venture forward inspite of them young men are conditioned to fear it through binary pass/fail examinations they mistakenly ascribe their sense of worth or esteem to.
Instead of receiving a bad score on an exam and saying "Well, I didn't prepare enough for this test. Next time I'll put in at least an hour a day worth of studying for the upcoming one." they're more inclined to think "I failed this test. I am a failure." which is a complete misperception but on account of it they cowardly avoid the path of trial & error. The path that in most cases is the only true method for genuinely learning or developing in anything. Feel the fire once and one learns to avoid touching it again. Never experience the fire the experiential knowledge to avoid contact is never acquired. (save for books or word of mouth but that's beyond the point.) . Without experience there's no growth but without hardships and failures there's no experiential blueprint of what to avoid or how to adjust to progress forward.
SKRedPill 5y ago
Sounds like kids are being trained with a feelings and solipsism based approach first.
pizzae 5y ago
Why strictly just for sexual strategy? Why not strategy in general in all parts of life? Why would anyone just stop at step 1 and not continue on towards step 1000?
TheStoicCrane 5y ago
The terms Beta and Alpha are really just interchangeable for the terms Submissive (behavior) or Delusional and Dominant (behavior) or Enlightened. Using them in any context beyond this serves to diminish their meaning. Use it how you see fit I guess. Im no word police but this my underlying take on it.
pizzae 5y ago
You're right that Alpha = serve no one else and beta = be a bitch to someone else. It doesn't matter if that something else is a person or a thing or an idea; it's still something that is higher or lower than you.
Why does TRP only seek to be above in some hierarchy or position or power with only a small group of entities, namely women? Why doesn't TRP go further than this and teach men how to become masters of their own lives? It seems as if many of the teachings here tell you to become a bitch to society, morality, God, meaning, etc.
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mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Upvoted because for the most part the "muh mission" posts on here always seem to serve the purpose of hamstering away why the person spewing the "muh mission" garbage is avoiding women.
centaursg 5y ago
A very good post but I dont understand how this is related red pill / blue pill theory.
I agree to most of what OP says. Here is my take on this -
It looks like people started using the term "follow your passion" only since few decades. Literally, following your passion is good because you are passionate about it and you want to spend time on it. It may pay the bills.
The problem comes in the approach we take to find the so called passion or "calling". It will not magically come out of thin air. I dont want to say "follow your passion" is stupid, I`d rather say build up your passion. Try few things and see if it works. School and Colleges are the best places to try. Anyone who has been successful has tried variety of things. Only the successful things get highlighted not the failures. Persistence is another key and it can make or break.
Being outcome dependent does have a few disadvantages and may stifle your progress. Instead try using systems approach where you develop variety of skills. Red Pill Theory is systems approach. You lift, read, become more social, leave behind bad habits and carve a path.
While its true that we all have a purpose or a mission in life, we typically associate this mission with somthing grandiose like finding cure for cancer. The purpose need not be grandiose. The purpose may not even help mankind.
Working 9-5 can be a purpose. Working in a missionary can be a purpose. May not work for Elon Musk but why let him define our purpose.
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AshyLarry27 5y ago
Well done write up. "Find your passion and you will never work a day in your life" is probably a big reason why the student loan debt situation is the way it is int he US. People don't understand "finding your passion/calling" is such a BS thought process because it gives you this idea if you are not doing something crazy productive or if you are not in love with what you do 100%, you haven't found the right passion.
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I remember watching that "Dominos" commercial where you have this guy who is the fastest "pizza box flipper" and he is preparing for some crazy special they are running. At NO point has any child ever wanted to be grow up to be a "fast pizza box flipper." What's my point? Watch that guy, he is loving that job in that moment, smile on his face to be great at something. You don't have to be some amazing doctor that has found the most effective way to cure cancer or anything. Do what you love, and do it with passion. No matter what. You might not have found what you are even good at yet because you're to busy researching some bullshit "calling" in life.
SKRedPill 5y ago
What people fail to realize is that "Finding your passion" is a statement that can only be said when someone has gone through the whole process of growth, faced everything that comes along the way and found success and fulfillment in whatever they have done.
The myth tries to tell youngsters that they'll never to face difficulties or BS along their way, which is blatantly untrue. The reality is that the master has faced and overcome more obstacles and failures than the student has even tried or is capable of imagining.
In retrospect, you look back and many of those difficulties were not really so bad when you see them in the light of growth and evolution. That realization brings new peace and strength within oneself.
AshyLarry27 5y ago
I like this. You touch on some strong points that are a part of what made these accomplishments so worth it. The fight and struggle along the way. The man who put himself through hell to attain something will appreciate it way more than the man who walked through the process without a scratch.
Bruchibre 5y ago
I think turning your passion into a job is also a good way to begin hating your passion.
AshyLarry27 5y ago
Amen. The feeling of "I am living it, I did it" can sometimes be nothing more than a dangling carrot on a stick. It is probably the feeling that most people chase than the actual "calling"/"job"
SKRedPill 5y ago
Actually this is true - chasing is always more romantic than having. Men's dread just applies to achievement.
bringer_of_glory 5y ago
People clinge to the idea of life purpose, because it makes them feel nice. What they actually long, is the feeling of arriving and self-worth. But they don't allow themselfs to arrive, it's to scarry and confronting and they don't know, how to handle all the things, that come up. They also don't know, how to love oneself. So they chose to keep running.
Don't wait for purpose in your life, live life purposely. What does it mean, to live your life with purpose? It means to arrive in the present moment, as often as possible. And to follow the other buddhistic teachings..
Thats at least what buddha was telling and I can really relate to it. But I think there are also other ways to live a meaningfull life:
Living true to ones nature. For man, it is to live life close to ones masculine energy. What also comes to mind: having family, having a tribe, experiencing love, feeling needed (beeing of use/help), having people around you can count on. The basics.
I think spirituallity is also key to having a sense of meaning in life, at least it makes it easier to access. The feeling/knowing of a higher sense, the feeling/knowing of the interconnection of all beeings, the feeling of beeing guided from time to time etc.
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It seems to me, that in todays time its more difficult to live a meaningful life. Thats why we grap out after things like money, sex, career, success - or video games, porn, isolation.
But do we live in full accordane to our values, if we do so?
BurnoutRS 5y ago
When I was in highschool, I made bank. All I had to do was show up, move product and stay away from authority. Nothing got me out of bed harder and faster than the idea that the quicker I got to school, the quicker I could start making bank... thats passion.
When I started lifting, I felt great. I felt better, in new ways that I had never felt before. I started seeing results. All I had to do was go to the gym, put in the work, eat better. Nothing motivated me more than thinking, no, knowing, that I was acchieving real results. thats passion.
Passion is a process, and what it really should be called is the highest form of addiction. We posess a great propensity for autonomy. This is due to our reward/motivation system as well as the necessity of muscle memory and unconscious action to free our minds to focus on other things. Like watching for alligators while you drink from the river.
When you try a drug, and it works well, it gets you really fucking high, you might become passionate about that drug. People write love songs about substances almost as much as women... oh wait, is there a difference between woman and substance? nah... So people write love songs about substance and objects.
What it is that youre passionate about, is the process. The process instills passion because it gets results, its reliable, you can get behind it.
Id say its a leg of discipline as well. I know Im passionate as an artist because when im in the middle of designing something and its not going well, I remind myself of my past successes and how often times I would get stuck with other projects, but they would come together in the end if I just pushed through. Passion is that voice in your head, its inately you, and it says "fuck your discomfort. Fuck your uncertainty about the future of this work. the one thing that is certain is that if you quit now, you're a little bitch and this unfinished work will sit there as a testament to your gaping vagina"
Bruchibre 5y ago
What does making bank mean ?
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Nezith 5y ago
It means making (a lot) of money.
Bruchibre 5y ago
Got it thanks. How were you making lots of money just by showing up to high school though please?
ruboski 5y ago
He said he was selling products that he wasn't meant to as he had to "stay away from authority".
He may have been selling soft drinks at high-school, yugioh cards or drugs. His clientele were other students it seems.
lbrownlbandit 5y ago
I agree, being passionate about something is one of those phrases you use to describe what you are doing in life or have done. Almost in a Stockholm syndrome towards what you are doing. The same way when a happy couple tells you "I knew from the beginning that he was the one". We all know it's not true but we say awww to support there belief that it's the right thing to do.
Another thing to note is that only the hard things in life need this type of communal support. Where you have people being encouraged by what you are doing. No one ever says doing cocaine is my passion man, most people will just look at him and go wtf.
SKRedPill 5y ago
I have a theory that people's brains are hardwired to idealize their pasts as a way of forgetting painful memories and difficult moments. Which is why people try to talk about their past like it was a golden age, when it really wasn't.
This bias feeds into myths about passion as well.
IQVX 5y ago
Yeah, I don't think it's so much about finding some ethereal, mythical 'passion' that exists and which you are destined to find... so much as it's simply finding an interest, career path, or whatever that you can tolerate and maybe even enjoy doing.
Seems like a low bar - but there are armies of people out there who just need something they don't hate.
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RedHoodhandles 5y ago
Thank you. Finally someone kicking this whole 'you have to find your life mission' bullshit to the curb.