Summary
If a woman has been travelling, it should be treated as a red flag.
Body
In my early 20's(I'm now 30) I spent a year travelling around Australia and south east Asia. During my trip I stayed almost entirely in backpacker hostels, which are often very social places full of drinking and partying. I was quite bluepill at the time, however, what I witnessed during my year away gave me incredible insight into how women behave when they're away from family/friends and surrounded by all kinds of exotic foreign cock men. It's this experience that makes me believe that most men(including some redpillers) vastly underestimate how many partners the average modern woman has had. The vast majority of women I encountered where actively trying to ride the cock carousel, and the most shocking thing about all this to me at the time was that many of the promiscuous girls I met were not trashy or "broken" but were nice, educated and came from good family's, the kind of girls many men would consider LTR worthy. The kinds of girls you wouldn't suspect of behaving like this(AWALT).
Lessons Learned
If a woman has ever been travelling, she's probably dipped her toe(or dived in head first) into the pool of exotic cock.
If your LTR is going travelling without you, there's a very good chance she will fuck other guys.
MurphyBronson 8y ago
Im 24. Lived in Australia for 3 years. Been to Asia, Europe, Egypt and just did Central America this year. I met my ex girlfriend in central America. We fucked her first night of traveling ever then we stuck together for the next 42 days. Sometimes I think what if she didn't meet me, how many guys she would've fucked on her trip.
Yes most girl will sleep with people on their trips. Depends where they're from and they're personality.
dyllos 9y ago
My GF is a traveler. Not without now but before me. I don't ask because I don't want to know. She is the text book version of educated, good family, but I'm not an idiot.
Bhiim 9y ago
I fucking love all you guys.
redrecno 9y ago
Yeah - I've got a highly religious one at the moment who "loves to travel" and has travelled more than anyone I've ever met in my life. Everywhere. The jury is still out on how prudish she actually is - as she would actively have me believe. Since discovering TRP, I've changed as has my naivety. There is a chance that this one has behaved herself - though I'm not naive enough to be in any way certain about that. If she hasn't behaved, I'd guess she has fucked everything possible....... cause tingles. And the tingles are strong in this one.
Thing is, there's no way to know for sure as they all act like born again virgins. pity. Possibly a good one, but sheer knowledge of TRP has though me to never discount the chances, and with that I find myself unable to fully trust her regardless of what reality might be. Pity in some ways as if this one can't be trusted, none of them can - TRP has cetainly changed my world view to one that is somewhat irreconcilable with my evolved expectations. so be it i guess.. .... .
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redrecno 9y ago
There is ultimately no way to tell what the truth is. My one interestingly has had sex with ex partner for years, but now wishes to "wait for marraige" - the toothpaste is out of the proverbial tube with that one and it's he main reason I'll let this one go - regardless of how great she is. Outside what she has told me, about that one person, I've discovered myself through snooping that there's another "mistake" of some kind in her past which she hasn't mentioned to me. She also hid this from her ex and then later rationalised not mentioning it because "was painful and she'd tried to rid her mind of it".
Ultimately, in my experience, it appears that they all lie and attempt to maintain as virginal an image as possible. They all know very well that their value at the table when looking for committment is lowered the more they've let the pussy loose, and their #1 strategy is to flat out lie. Unfortunately, if you have a clean one, there's actually no way to prove it - so it will always be a gamble.
Enjoy Costa Rica !
antariusz 9y ago
Prudish? That's because she views you as a beta.
If she thought you were an alpha she wouldn't be prudish with you.
Sounds like you've recently unplugged, hopefully you'll still be able to take control of your life and become more of an alpha.
redrecno 9y ago
and to be clear - filthy. Conservative yet filthy. I've not been dillusional enough to think it's about me, though I certainly draw something out of her by utilising sex god.method approach. saying that,...this post caught my eye as i was concerned about the amount of travel she has done - it's astounding.
As TRP says.....she's only with me now. That is all. AWALT.
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I think this is the unfortunate truth. One tip is to try anal with her. If she says no reply quickly with "surely you've done anal before", and since girls done like to never miss out on experience she might blurt out "yeah", then you know you're her BB.
redrecno 9y ago
so I hadn't seen ur txt. This one is cult religious - wouldn't have sex but has done everything else. busy trying to get me into lock down mode via marraige and then I get it all the time apparently. Last night, did anal for first time - my gut says it was a first for her based on behaviours and discussion afterwards today - she didn't seem cool about the whole thing at all. She was adamant that she had never done it before, and had no idea how to behave in it all - matches what i experienced happeneing. Seems i am the current BB target indeed though as always there are others in the chst apps like all women. Interestingly related to this thread, she has MET a lot of these other chat targets WHILE travelling. Technology ..........
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redrecno 9y ago
not necessarily. in part im a mix of both, but ive been pretty alpha when I attracted her. I reverted into beta via vulnerability and let myself slip too much in that direction (read models).
this is more the nature of the beast methinks. - 5000 miles away - nature of the beast.
AWALT
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Moldy_Gecko 9y ago
I'm in the same boat as you with a girl I live with.
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I feel like my old LTR of 2 years was faithful, and I was fairly confident on that, but she went away to school and a lot of her demeanor changed so it happens to the best of them. Always keep them on their toes though. Make em want you more and you shouldn't have that issue.
Moldy_Gecko 9y ago
I'm not trying to LTR the girl I live with. Just that whole "Christian" side of things.
Also, I was married 9 years with a girl I'm fairly certain never cheated (Japan is a little different, but still AWALT). I'm sure I'll find out in a year or 2 if she did or not, but her demeanor never changed. Either way, it doesn't matter. There is no positive that comes from LTR. You get sex less, you meet less people, you go out alone less, you spend more money. And for what, semi-consistent pussy? That's basically it.
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Exactly, I'm only 20 so it was a blessing in disguise. She definitely had potential and could be considered marriage material, but thank god it didn't go that route. Maybe a few years down the stretch.
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Honestly I've seen women go hard on both directions. There are some that actually don't travel just to hook up.. But it's usually one extreme or the other.
Sadly, you'll never know for sure
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redrecno 9y ago
just hacked the phone. seems my instinct was built for this planet ! Not fully sure what was going in a recent trip but certainly been hiding intentions from me and was sharing intimate time and txting afterwards with some holiday fling it seems. Definition of fling is unknown based on photos but I think I've seen enough to trust my gut in the intentions which is what it comes down to imo.
I remember a great saying - not.quite rp.- but act as if ur partner was in the room. This is certainly not what would have been happening if I was there - and that's. the reason it was hidden from me. Intentions ! They weren't honourable towards me that's for sure !!!!!!!
AWALT.
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good on you man. don't be her bb. she's not respecting you (and that's not fixable), don't respect her.
[deleted] 9y ago
Good I'll technology.
On one hand it makes it easier to cheat.. Also easier to get caught
PrinceofSpades 9y ago
And this is why I'll always blame technology for the downfall of the stable and faithful family, even moreso than feminism itself.
You have to be a lot more fucking alpha than you used to have to be in order to always be the hottest guy hitting on her over facebook.
redrecno 9y ago
yup. hacked in again - found more stuff. While away she was "travelling with me" via txts - whatsapp etc. Have found a chat history with someone else halfway across the world doing the same thing - not.as many txts by a long shot, but same buzz "oh it's great to travel with you".
PrinceofSpades 9y ago
Almost all women are sluts, some wear it proudly on their sleeves, but most are just DAMN good at hiding it because they know it lowers their SMV. Hence, the hamster.
yomo86 9y ago
When she lists traveling as her hobbies asking her about what she's doing on these holidays and where she stays roots out all sluts.
She's staying at a 3 star hotel and went to art museums, restaurants, cultural stuff. No biggie. The traveling rule does not apply. She will still jump on any high SMV cock but this is just normal hypergamy.
She stays at hostels. No further question. The average girl - even sluts - avoids filthy, non comfortable spaces - like in dirty - places except if she wants the D.
She says she is in for adventure. If she is not telling you she went with a small group through the australian outback or south east asian rainforest, it basically means fucking random strangers.
Sedac 9y ago
Yep my LTR's going travelling next Wednesday...got a girl lined up to come down Thursday. Moral of the story - always game girls because you never know what's going to happen down the line.
SW9876 9y ago
What's the point of LTRing a girl if you expect her to cheat and you are actively planning on cheating yourself? I'm not judging, I just don't get the point.
Str8_Pillin 9y ago
Why get insurance on your car? You have a license, so you shouldn't get into an accident
Shit happens. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
lItsAutomaticl 9y ago
Companionship and steady sex.
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PrinceofSpades 9y ago
Sex usually improved over time too so long as you don't beta out.
Sedac 9y ago
I don't plan on cheating in LTR's, however it's best to prepare for the worst. I always game girls without going for sex, but at least I have the option there if something happens in my LTR.
McLarenX 9y ago
Don't listen to him. Enjoy your Thursday pussy and keep all emotions in check.
Moldy_Gecko 9y ago
Yeah, fuck the shit out of Thursday girl, because your girl will have some guy balls deep in her ass and throat by Friday at the latest. Because, remember that "drunken/mistake sex isn't real sex".
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The thing is even if the girl is loyal; the same day she gets unhaaaaappy and decides to break up with you, she'll have another man's dick down her throat.
TheSelfGoverned 9y ago
Besides enjoying the moment with her, there is no point. Love and any hopes of starting a family in this culture died long ago, either accept it or continue to have your heart broken.
I find that having a girl or two on the side (just flirting, maybe a couple dates here and there) makes things much easier emotionally for when your LTR inevitably cheats on you, or leaves you for new cock. In other words, don't put all of your eggs in one basket.
Moldy_Gecko 9y ago
I don't understand the point of a LTR at all. Unless we consider a long term plate as also being LTR. I always considered LTR as girlfriend. Girlfriends are pointless. I got a girl I am trying to plate (already got the lay), but she is trying to bf me up. Even as an HB9, it's a deal breaker for me.
Evileddie13 9y ago
LTR's don't exist in this world. There is no real shame in cheating, for a woman. Couple hundred years ago, a cheating woman was ostracized. Now, she just gets a restraing order on YOU. Live life for you and no one else. Yes, that means hoes on the side.
juliusstreicher 9y ago
I think that you forgot to mention her reality show...
Moldy_Gecko 9y ago
Luckily I live in a country not so fucked, but yes, I completely agree. They don't exist, so why try and pretend? FYI, you say a couple hundred, they were being ostracized around 60 years ago for this shit. Basically, pre-birth control and feminist movement you could have a stable relationship. As much as I dislike Christianity, it did play it's part on society. Kept women in check and helped losers with money get decent women.
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As I get older, coming from a European Atheist upbringing I'm really starting to see how religion built and sustained civilization and we've really thrown the baby out with the bathwater.
Moldy_Gecko 9y ago
Yeah, I've always held the belief that religions were invented to keep society in check. Like I said, as much as I hate it, it worked.
PrinceofSpades 9y ago
Realistically we just need a modern religious update. In a sense, feminism is a religion, people just don't call it that.
Moldy_Gecko 9y ago
Could you clarify "Modern Religious Update" for me? Honestly, I'm cool with no religion. I don't mind the current state of affairs that much now that my eyes are opened. I get pussy, pussies don't. Seems great to me.
Shamlei 9y ago
So what's going to happen ? You'll dump your LTR or stay with her ?
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rothkochapel 9y ago
"It's this experience that makes me believe that most men(including some redpillers) vastly underestimate how many partners the average modern woman has had"
If she's over 25 and hasn't been a virgin for at least a couple years, assume her n to be >= 50
source: anectodal evidence
NueveReinas 9y ago
I stayed in a few hostels and omg what a bunch of annoying fucks are both the men and the women.
toneroma 9y ago
I lived in Japan for a time, where men tend to be, in some ways, more beta than elsewhere (which is interesting in a couple where married men freely fuck prostitutes with their wife's knowledge), especially when it comes to American women. White guys with the smallest amount of game are drowning in native pussy, while white women tend to be... not so fortunately.
This leads to the evolution of what we called "sexpats". The longer a white girl has been living in Asia, the easier she becomes to fuck. It was bizarre and hilarious. It gets to the point where going out drinking with an expat group would commonly involve actively avoiding having sex with them. I primarily avoided it because A. I would rather be the only guy in my expat social circle who hadn't slept with a given women by choice then actually sleeping with them, especially since I was in the land of abundant Asian pussy, B. Holy shit did these women get around, and C. I try as hard as possible to avoid sleeping with intoxicated women.
Of the 9 women I slept with in my year in Japan, only 2 were "sexpats" - the Chinese American girl I lost my virginity to (does that count as irony?), and a hard 9 Latvian girl because by some twist of fate we ended up sharing a tent while camping outside of Nakagawa where I was somehow competing log-pushing sumo competition on an all-American lumberjack themed team. It was cold as fuck, so I suggested we zip our sleeping bags together (which she instantly agreed to). Her cuddling against me for warmth led to touching, which led to kissing, which lead to fucking. I did it because she was sober, she was a fucking hot Latvian, and it was cold is fuck.
BenOfMahogany 9y ago
Boston guy here. We don't get a lot of travelers (who the fuck would visit Boston) unless it's business. How can I capitalize on the small amount of travelers we do get? Bars near hotels?
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Overkillengine 9y ago
There is a lesson here for those of you out there still trying to unicorn hunt:
The better her socioeconomic background, the more incentive she has to lie to you and everyone else under the sky in order to maintain that standing.
She is not special. YOU are not special- you are a convenience.
TheReformist94 9y ago
ive never believed the idea that women who fuck around are broken. they can play the field just like men, in fact, they dont get attached like men or worry that their guys are fucking other women. they do it because they want to. if they rele valued commitment and LTRs they wouldnt take as much cock as possible on a short holiday, knowing they cant extract commitment from it.
I beleive women have as much desire for sexual variety than men, otherwise why would they fuck so many men with N=20 as the minimum in most cases?
leinaD-Backwards 9y ago
This to me is why this sub is broken to fuck.
It's good for life building, confidence and gym but slut shaming is fucking weird and the most bets thing you can do.
I must be king of my jungle, fuck a billion bitches but she's must be pure. Wtf how sad is that.
I shit you not, upvoted threads on how to GPS spy on your girlfriend and track their messages.
Beta beta beta fucking criminally beta
DodgedAFew 9y ago
There is one exception - girls travelling with the family or at least her father.
-Bonobo- 9y ago
I went on a cruise w my family once. So did the girl I fucked. If she wants it, she'll find a way. Her sisters might even help make it happen.
Uptonogood 9y ago
I heard a story from a friend who went on a cruise. Every fucking morning there were multiple speaker warnings of parents looking for their daughters who mysteriously went missing for the night. Even with their parents, they somehow find a way to slut it up.
Life uhh, finds a way.
Dude ended up nicknaming the ship "Putanic" (Bitch-tanic).
mike7473 9y ago
Dads should take those good daughters to the doctor. Sleepwalking is real issue. Don't you think?
darkvinc 9y ago
More like Whore-tanic
(French canadian )
Pute - whore
Uptonogood 9y ago
All I know is the guy was mildly impressed by the stupid amounts of sex going on in that ship.
If your girl wants to go on a cruise with her girlfriends, you can pretty much be sure whats going to happen. Also if you take your daughter, be sure to keep a hawk's eye on her at all times. lol
Str8_Pillin 9y ago
I was in Miami when I was 16, and there were 2 woman from the PA/NJ area (both 40 ish, both 9/10 for their age, 5 or 6 compared to all), and they came down for a "girls weekend" to get away from their husbands and kids. They were at the hotel bar a lot, which was easy for me to get into since security wasn't heavy.
Anyway, long story short. My group was interacting with them a lot, and they'd either come with us places, or we'd see them unexpectedly while doing the same touristy shit. One night, about 1am, I was going back to my room and one of them gets on with me. I ended up making out with her right outside the elevator on her floor. There was a little setup with 2 chairs and table with flowers on it. It lasted about a minute until we heard a ding, and some random couple got off.
I found out many years later that my brother (5yrs older) ended up fucking her the night after.
Hundreds of $ for plane tickets, hundreds of $ for a hotel. Just for a weekend of getting fucked by ~20 year olds (well, 1.. almost 2)
tio1w 9y ago
Just wanted to say something different regarding this.
I travel alone quite a bit and I come across a lot of Korean girls that travel in pairs and are friendlier than usual with each other.
Basically, for some strange reason a lot of Korean lesbians travel in pairs.
Maybe they can't be open about it at home. I don't know but I see this scenario a lot!
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Interisti10 9y ago
pretty much agree
that and the overuse of the word - wanderlust
congratulations you went to europe/the americas and got drunk and banged some whilst partying with other english speaking folks and didn't take in one bit of culture
now post it over facebook and tell everyone how worldly you are...
JakofClubs 9y ago
Girls definitely like to hook up when they are out of town because it doesn't affect their reputation where they live.
jaredschaffer27 9y ago
Let me offer a slightly contrarian view. I have been traveling in a van on and off for 6 years around the US. I'm in the middle of the desert as I write this, actually. Women who start traveling on their own usually end up on the carousel, there's no doubt. But women who are introduced to traveling by their existing ltr tend to be exemplary girlfriends. This crazy dichotomy never made sense to me until I read trp. But it's logical, it's the best way I know of demonstrating the captain and first mate dynamic. An adventurous guy (usually with some travel experience) starts dating a girl. He plants the seed of travel in her head, gives her massive ting tings. He (and this is usually how it works) provides the gear/vehicle/equipment and takes her around. Nearly 24 hrs a day he's demonstrating value because he is usually handling logistics, budgets, repairs, etc. She is always in new situations with him, which makes her feel both safety and novelty. Any kind of long term traveling takes a lot of alpha skills to pull off. Due to the nature of traveling, he also meets many women, creating low level dread. He will usually always have some other adventure just around the corner to keep her enticed. It's really no wonder the girl sticks around for a long time.
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Good point and makes sense.
bigmfkr 9y ago
These are demonstrations of provider qualities.
rothkochapel 9y ago
If he was doing those things JUST for her, yes
RetiredTimeHo 9y ago
They're demonstrations of two very alpha characteristics
Leadership/dominance
bigmfkr 9y ago
First one is desirable, yes. But it's absolutely unrelated to that skill set.
E.g.: "I've repaired the car and made budget for the week, we're driving to the next city tomorrow." "That's great, honey! Can we stay here for one more day? The bartender is sooo hot! Meanwhile, can you eat his cum out of my pussy?"
And, of course, capability and skills are beta characteristics. They make a good provider, not a good lover.
Pull your head out of your ass.Please lurk more before making unsubstantiated claims about what is alpha.RetiredTimeHo 9y ago
Are you stupid? First off those aren't mutually exclusive to alpha or beta.
Second off how can any redpill man think being capable or skilled is beta. The man who gets a raise or bonus for being good at his job. The lead singer or guitarist or DJ who bangs groupies. The mysterious artist or painter. The boxer. The surfer.
Capability and skills don't make you beta you fool. Just like being rich doesn't automatically make you beta bucks.
You people just don't fucking get it.
bigmfkr 9y ago
You missed the point entirely.
No matter how good you are at repairing cars or at your job or budgeting or whatever, it will not automatically give a woman tingles. Ever. Unless you can demonstrate it in a "I'm the hot shit here" way. The proper demonstration makes you desirable, not the skill itself. And it requires you to be dominant and confident, which, again, has nothing to do with the skill itself.
However, having these skills automatically makes you a better provider. Alpha and beta are not opposites, they are independent.
RetiredTimeHo 9y ago
You're arguing against a strawman... I never made such a statement.
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epixs 9y ago
how does arrange living via backpacker hostels? I have 2 months of break before I start medical school and I plan on traveling while minimizing costs since I ain't ballin with money .
Any advice would be appreciated!!
slay_it_forward 9y ago
You just book the hostel man, wtf. You're going to be a doctor?
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He'll be the doctor that refuses to google things for himself.
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crabpipe 9y ago
any tourist city will have a backpacker district packed with cheap hostels
epixs 9y ago
thanks, haven't traveled alone so was wondering if its like booking hotels online or just local stuff.
crabpipe 9y ago
Both options exist. Go for it
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This is one of the few ideas in TRP which I have had no life experiences that contradict it even a little.
I nearly fucked a gorgeous Arabic muslim woman on a cruise ship when I was barely 18 and still in highschool (I was shy and pussied out). I later found out she was married to a man back home in Saudi Arabia.
Other things have happened as well.
Eugenics2015 9y ago
You fucked up bro. That is the story of a lifetime
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DrunkFern 9y ago
Mind sharing how you got started working on cruise ships, specifically? Seems like a cool gig.
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Hamilton950B 9y ago
One of the very first PUA tips I picked up was that you should look for women who are just visiting your town. If you live in a touristy area, hang around the tourist hotel bars. There is something about being away from home that gives women the permission they need to be promiscuous. Remember they don't mind being sluts, they just don't want anyone to think they are sluts. If they are out of town and no one they know is around, they can maintain the fiction that their reputation is intact.
introvertp 9y ago
Can confirm, I fucked a girl this weekend who was in the country for 3 days. We exchanged numbers got together and fucked again the last day she was there.
She mentioned her boyfriend multiple times, to which I dodged the topic gracefully. But the most interesting part was she had "happy birthday, boo" accompanied by the some text as her what's app status.
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Can confirm too that traveling women cheat a LOT.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 9y ago
this is not a revelation or anything new. people that travel fuck and cheat. unless you're a fool then thats your fault. women cheat when travel, guys cheat when travel. why not? this is common knowledge. unless you don't get out much then i suppose this is something shocking.
1MillionTinyHorses 9y ago
In other news today the sky is still blue.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 9y ago
and trump still don't give a fuck
lagerea 9y ago
Women's general preoccupation is courtship, if any man believes a woman by 21 has had less than a few dozen partners, he's a fool
wont_tell_i_refuse 9y ago
Off-topic but this story isn't good enough for a FR yet I still want to brag about the time I used text game to get laid at a hostel.
Fuck_shadow_bans 9y ago
Yeah, this is one of two reasons that I next any girl who "loves to travel".
The other being that "travel" does not imply "vacation" it implies "novelty", and the types of women who are willing to spend thousands of dollars on novelty are not good LTR material. At best, it's a pump-and-dump situation.
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Fuck_shadow_bans 9y ago
A.) We are talking trends. If a girl puts that in an online profile or mentions it on the first date, it's a massive red flag in my experience. Maybe not for you.
B.) How many people do you know that "do travel properly"? Cause for me its about 0% of my female facebook friends.
HenryVIIII 9y ago
Is everybody on TRP from the US of A? Because if you live in any other developed country in the world, reaching adulthood without travelling is very difficult. I am from Europe and travelling to another country is like an American going from New York to New Jersey.
That is weird that many here do not want girls to go to another part of America, does nobody here want to date people who understand what the world looks like outside their small bubble?
In other first world countries outside of USA it is very uncommon for young people to reach eighteen years old without their primary and secondary schools taking them on subsidized overseas school trips to learn history or put on a choir performance or something, when I was in France the museums were filled with teenage students from other European countries. I was in my school hockey team and we travelled overseas to compete with other regional powerhouses. Unless you are from USA, travelling outside your own country is something you almost cannot avoid even when you are young.
Eugenics2015 9y ago
The United States functions as a self sufficient continent. You should assume that anything you read on the internet in English is talking about the American perspective unless otherwise stated.
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nah, it's not about the travel, its about the context.
1MillionTinyHorses 9y ago
Understandable, but where exactly is a person drawing revenue from while on vacation? How are they bolstering their career insuring that they are a valuable, or at least will be, hard earner?
Perhaps some people are in a position to do this, or they just do this with allocated time off, or they already allocated the enough funds in their life, in which case great for them, but most would not fall into this category. The people I met who "travel" are young. They work, save, quite their job, and then hop on a plane, or have daddy pay for everything. It might not cost a lot of money to travel on the cheap, but each day you are away is a day you are not earning money or building something, and if your travel is extended it means a gap in your career or educational development which is important when you are young. If this is the kind of lifestyle they wish to live, then by all means, but to me it shows short sightedness in a girl depending on the situation.
It is just more consumerism, and many "travelers" approach destinations like as another tourist trap to cross off a list that they can tell their friends about, and I do not find overly material girls all that appealing.
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Fuck_shadow_bans 9y ago
Yes, but going to the beach is pretty much the same in Vietnam as it is in Thailand, et cetera. You know the kind of girl I am talking about.
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Fuck_shadow_bans 9y ago
Yes, and this is NOT what I am talking about. I have no issue with the concept of traveling.
I mean, seriously? Have you guys really never experienced the "I LOVE to travel" twit parade?
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Fuck_shadow_bans 9y ago
>_< Sigh. This is not at all what I am talking about. I will not next someone because she enjoyed her trip to Europe last summer. I will next a girl if she doesn't have any sort of savings because she goes on 5-6 international trips a year and can't really afford them. The type of girl who would never repeat a location because travel is "about experiencing new stuff", like she managed to take in the entirety of French culture during her three day trip to Paris.
I know you know someone like this. I know I am not talking about some super rare phenomenon.
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Fuck_shadow_bans 9y ago
HOORAY FOR YOU! Seriously, either you can't read, or you are too fucking stupid to understand that I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.
KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
Most women that say that they love to travel have not actually done much travelling, and rarely out of country. Still, a trip with her girls to NYC or Vegas is still a red flag.
kanji_sasahara 9y ago
Living in NYC and I have to admit some of the best nights are running into bachelorette parties.
The perfect one night stand if they're from out of town.
Fuck_shadow_bans 9y ago
I'm not saying someone who simply enjoys travelling. I'm saying someone who, for example, lists "Travel" as one of the 6 things they couldn't live without on OKC. If it's that important to them, it's usually a problem.
Rommel0502 9y ago
Absolutely on Vegas. A few years back, I was sitting next to a girl and her friends waiting to board our plane from JFK to Vegas. As we were waiting, she was talking to her boyfriend on her phone full of "I love you" and "Ill miss you."
I had my cock in her within three hours of touchdown.
AWALT.
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I've been around groups of women planning girls trips to Vegas in front of their SOs. They will have knowing twinkles in their eyes and will even say things that are dead giveaways like "I don't want this to be a trip to anywhere where any of us know anyone, if that makes sense." And they all nod.
I sit back thinking "has the world gone mad and are all men this stupid or whipped?"
Chinny4daWinny 9y ago
What if you're in a relationship where she doesn't want YOU doing that (assuming she doesn't do that)?
My current LTR doesn't like it when I go out with the guys to clubs and stuff and I've even invited her to come and ask some of her girl friends to go but she isn't that kind of girl. I don't really think it's fair to her for me to go out when she doesn't and as a compromise we go out to other things together like movies, parks etc.
A part of me feels like I'm missing the college experience, but the (wiser?) other part of me understands how much time I'd be wasting dealing with hangovers, beer gut, toll of drugs on my body and wishes to opt out.
Thoughts?
2comment 9y ago
Blue pillers are on the left.
-TempestofChaos- 9y ago
If you're in an LTR, how is it appropriate to address that. Simply tell her no, break it off, or to tell her you will be accompanying?
This is not an issue I have had the displeasure of witnessing.
2comment 9y ago
Tell her no. Accompanying after the fact is needy and puts you in a week frame of tagalong.
TRPhd 9y ago
You: "Hmph."
Her: "What?"
You: "I just didn't think you were that kind of girl."
Her: "You asshole... blah blah cunty blah" - Next her with no drama supplied.
Her: "No, it's not going to be like that... blah blah whiney blah" - Soft next her when she comes back from her trip.
Her: "Well, if you don't think I should go, I won't... blah blah blah luring you into unintended commitment blah" - Mentally demote her to plate status, and go "radio silent" for three days.
Her: "I know, right? Those girls are crazy. I'd rather go to Vegas with you instead." - Test passed. Don't take her to Vegas; take her to Napa Valley.
-TempestofChaos- 9y ago
Essentially how I thought that would pan out, thanks for the reinforcement.
colehoun333 9y ago
Soft next: the tried and true Irish exit of relationships.
verify_account 9y ago
You have so much to teach all of us. Thank you.
reading_alot 9y ago
plan something like: "Oh <whatever her name>, I was planning to go to Napa Valley with you that same weekend when your girlfriends are going to Vegas"... If she chooses to be with her girlfriends, you got your answer..
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"Go ahead, have a good time. I don't date girls like that."
Then LEAVE IT AT THAT. Typically she'll ask "what do you mean" and try all manner of shit tests. Just say "That's all I have to say on the matter". Start considering soft next anyway because she has a finger on the nuclear button that she shouldn't have. She should never be that comfortable in the relationship.
-TempestofChaos- 9y ago
I like this, just because it's simple and they know damn well what you mean.
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It bares repeating, they know EXACTLY what you mean, because it's what they've thought. Put the ball in her court and leave it there, dont engage. A lesser man will be shamed and whatnot, if you stick to your principles you'll see what kind of girl your are dealing with.
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Eh...it is hard for me to imagine now how I would respond if emotionally invested, but I'll try.
I would wait and see what she says and then what she does.
If after those chicks leave she notices what was clearly afoot and says she isn't going and does not go, then that's a good sign.
If she wants to go, then confronting her won't do anything, probably. She'll say you misinterpreted things or blame the other girls or say she isn't like that and you should trust her. She'll hide behind plausible deniability and make you the bad guy. If she doesn't go she'll be jealous of her friends and resent you and bitch. No winning by playing the game.
It's easier to walk on women that don't know how to act right. Unfortunately, that is pretty much all single women past 25 these days.
Women have privileges men don't socially. A group of men talking about going somewhere without their SOs specifically to enjoy the nightlife? Ha. It's because men are perceived as dogs and women not. Women created this perception and capitalize on it.
-TempestofChaos- 9y ago
Figures, if she's running out like that, she's probably already fucking around.
RetiredTimeHo 9y ago
You cannot be emotionally invested. You just can't
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FreeRadical5 9y ago
Well it isn't wrong. Even with an RP lens. Men are much more likely to fuck anything. Higher sex drive, biological imperative and all that.
PlayFair 9y ago
This is an assumption. Are you sure this isn't a projection?
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Look, if you're in an LTR, you are the leader. If you aren't, it's over. She has to accept captain/first mate or the relationship is dead to her no matter what you invest.
MY girl will not travel alone or with a group of slut friends. Single girls can do whatever they want. Make this abundantly clear. If she wants your investment, she will play by your rules, period.
No issue with being blatant at this point. Tell her no. Ultimatum- I know a lot of people on this sub are so against them, but in a real relationship (which you shouldn't be in if you aren't considering children in which a huge, strict vetting process should have already been done) they are fine. Think of it as another shit test because it is just that. Ultimatum, no supplication, end of discussion. It's OK for her to be butthurt, not the end of the world. She'll get over it if she is truly invested in you and you should never continue investing in a person (male or female) who is not invested in you.
I repeat- if you are in a real LTR that you where you have investment and would like to continue that investment, then you are free to make any rules for continuance that you like. She is as well and you can accept or not, just like she can (but her's will basically just be 'don't fuck other girls.') Just be reasonable. This is reasonable.
soccerplusaviation 9y ago
how would go about setting this boundary
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if you're at the point where you've taken the time to vet a girl for an LTR and she's crazy about you, you just straight tell her what you want. one of the things people on this sub do is play games. I'm still young, but old enough I don't have the same amount of patience for games, but even moreso for an LTR- it will not happen in an LTR. Of course, this doesn't mean not still creating attraction. Shit tests are still met playfully (just have fun) until it's one on this level where she's jeopardizing the relationship. If it is jeopardizing the relationship, the boundary is laid out very clearly with or without explanation. You don't have to justify it (but again, be reasonable and don't be doing shit just to do it. have a good reason, spend time using logic, think about if it is important. if it is, then no wavering, no supplication, no reasoning with her.)
if you are considering an LTR, i strongly suggest you go to youtube and listen to every episode of Black Phillip by Patrice O'Neal. Pay attention to his attitude. Internalize that. HE runs the relationship, he is still reasonable (he and his girl are swingers, he isn't concerned about absolute fidelity, but he's going to be there and they're going to have their fun together.) This is reflected in how he conducts his show. HE runs it. HE has shit to say. It's HIS show. He will tell people to shut the fuck up and bring the conversation back on subject when he's ready. Sometimes he's a dick- his guests respect him though. He doesn't bullshit where it matters. He talks straight and doesn't mince words and doesn't back down. He knows what's up. He still meanders and makes jokes and has fun, but he keeps it in line. Be Patrice.
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For a LTR, tell it like it is. If she brings up a trip with the girls, you tell her no. be firm, do not waver when she throws all her nonsense up at you. Don't explain yourself and if she tries dread, be prepared to let her go. Girls are terrible at dread when you figure out how flimsy it all is.
She'll either bail or she'll be more into you.
MakeEmSayAyy 9y ago
Theyre worse at it cuz at a fundamental level a slut is not hot but a stud is?
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Look at what they dread you with.
1.) Get dumped. Big deal. She's losing you. Plenty of fish in the sea.
2.) Cut off sex. Again, big deal. If you're doing it right she's the one who loses in this as you'll just find someone else. But she'll probably struggle to get another winner. Depends on the girl I suppose.
3.) It's not fair! Life isn't fair. If you're the captain of the ship, you set the rules. If she doesn't like them, find another ship.
Once you internalize that she doesn't have anything over you (assuming no kids or possibility of divorce rape) holding frame is much easier.
MakeEmSayAyy 9y ago
Well I feel like what I said makes more sense. No shit she can get other guys, any girl can, that's slut time. But a guy who can pull bitches? That's catnip for bitches
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Accept that while she's there she's probably having dicks thrown at her constantly. If you're a good Captain of your ship at home, she'll be loyal. Until a better Captain comes along anyway.
Signs she's not jumping on someone else:
1.) She calls you regularly. Don't ask for this. If it happens, it means she's thinking about you and that's a good sign.
2.) If she comes home ready to go, that's a good sign. Pick her up, find a spot on the way home from the airport and knock one out to test the waters. If it's lukewarm, that's a bad sign. Real bad if she pulls the "I'm Tired" routine.
Takeaway: Make sure your frame at home is on point.
KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
This means nothing. Women that cheat will call their bf's/husbands immediately post-sex while still naked and totally sell their "I love you-u-u-u-u-u. I miss you-u-u-u-u-u," and then go back to Chad for round two.
If she goes, she goes to cheat. Do not fool yourself.
Mortikhi 9y ago
"I don't think so" is the appropriate response. If she goes, lose her.
lItsAutomaticl 9y ago
Let her go on the trip and suck it up. It's not worth getting your jimmies rustled. Jealousy = insecurity = bluepillbeta. If you're really not that comfortable, dump her and move on to someone you can trust.
-TempestofChaos- 9y ago
Wouldn't be quite jealousy there so much as knowing that she's full of shit.
Eh...I guess it would be jealousy if you care she's going in a different way.
Either way, fair enough. Relationship over.
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BlueBellEnd 9y ago
Travelling fits nicely in with the self delusion that women do: she didn't really fuck around because she was travelling, it doesn't count. She wasn't a slut because she was finding herself. It didn't count because it was just a blowjob. OK it was full sex but it doesn't count because it was just once. Okay it was lots of times but different guys each time.
The same logic gets used for college: the sex and drugs is supposed to be somehow miraculously forgotten and erased from their record the moment they graduate.
They would behave very differently if they didn't have this fantasy that the past was going to just get washed away when they finished travelling/college.
vibrate 9y ago
So what? What's wrong with a woman having many sexual partners?
Are you some kind of religious nutcase? Do you believe sex is bad?
KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
Nothing, no, and no. However, there's a lot wrong with trying to raise kids with and wife up a ho. She will not be able to commit, the relationship will be shit, and the man (in the west) will get divorce-raped.
That's what.
vibrate 9y ago
Having multiple sex partners does not make a woman a 'ho', any more than it makes a man a gigalo.
Sex is fun, healthy and natural.
KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
OK, you got me. It doesn't make her a 'ho, it makes her a slut, and everyone on here has read the studies that show that the higher the partner count for a woman prior to marriage, the increased probability of divorce.
That sex is fun, healthy and natural does not refute the consequences that I just pointed out. Male and female sexual strategies are very different, and it is clear that you have not thought through the implications of either one.
animalpoo 9y ago
It's completely normal for them to go hardcore cockcarousel mode whilst traveling. Just like it is for Men to also want to fuck as many foreign girls as possible.
As humans we're attracted to dissimilar immune systems and divergent genes. All to produce the strongest offspring. Accompanied by the fact that they've abandoned the societal pressures of "slut shaming" adds to this phenomena.
Having been in a relationship with a professional slut traveler, heed my warning.
Stay away, they are professionals. They're they have the most experience, they know how to get what they want, they are unstable, they will compare you to sooooo many different men. You will never ever ever, be able to compete with her high status frumps with exotic cocks of the "ones that got away" - sadly they are broken.
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The biggest thing I used to hate when travellling was the 6'2'' skinny douchbags with bandannas and beads just living in the hostels for months on end. They're fucking everything that walks in through the door and their type is ruining an entire generation of women from 5-10's ability to pair-bond. Multitudes of normal men will never be able to compare to "that perfect guy and the day we spent together on the beach" because she has it idealised in her head. You might say i'm in anger stage but i'm not, i'm annoyed at the decline of society as a whole.
sir_wankalot_here 9y ago
Where do I buy beans and a bandanna ?
103342 9y ago
I know that I'm off the anger stage when instead of being angry at this, I actually though your comment was hilarious.
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cheeky--kunt 9y ago
Good point. But this is a fact (and it has been decades), so I think we are wasting our time trying to fix broken things.
Lord, let me accept the things I cannot change...
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rockumsockumrobots 9y ago
I feel you bro. I discussed this with /u/QuTangMayne and /u/Epicfaillord. It makes sense, you want what our parents had, nothing "anger phase" about that.
Start working on building the world in your image so when the current regime collapses/is outed, you are prepared to accept the ideological refugees and create something that works, something great!
I would strongly recommend starting here: http://counter-currents.com
If you have any questions or want to network, definitely PM me, I check reddit every few days.
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idk about the rest of humans but for me anything thats non-white gets instant -2 (or more) hit on the hb scale.
TRPhd 9y ago
Naturally, it's just most of us cannot be as successful at it as can even very average girls.
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Joseph_the_Carpenter 9y ago
Uncle Joe's Guide to Fucking a Lot of Men as a Woman:
Step 1: Show up.
kanji_sasahara 9y ago
Step 2. Pretend to be interested.
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soccerplusaviation 9y ago
If she is going away on vacation, are there any signs before, during and after that she is cheating.
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KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
What does this enable you to infer about her N count?
[deleted] 9y ago
Sounds like you're making her grow up a bit, which is good.
Popeman79 9y ago
That is great insight. They know, maybe not rationnaly but intuitively (as girls do) that traveling alone is not something a good girl will do.
KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
I've said it before. A woman travelling (alone) is an excuse to have a UN conference in her vagina.
KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
Also, check out the trailer for the movie Whisky Tango Foxtrot. Based on actual events. Starring Tina Fey and Margot Robbie. Set in Afghanistan recently. Trailer shows Margot asking a confused and flustered Tina if it's OK if she fucks Tina's security team.
Apparently, being on the other side of the world from everyone that knows you reduces inhibitions, and an exponentially increased sex ratio (M/F) blasts a woman's libido into the stratosphere. In the book the author explained that a woman that's a 4 in the states becomes a 10 over in the war zone, and then reverts to a 4 when she returns. What do you suppose this does to her sense of entitlement? Even if she never partakes of the smorgasbord of cock while in country, how is her psychology impacted?
KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
Oh. Here's another story. I think that it was posted here a year or so ago.
Guy works at a resort. Tends bar or something. Gets lots of pussy, but not as much as his buddy, call him HungChad. HC's job was to drive a boat on some kind of 3-4 hour tour of something or another. Boat held maybe 20 people. Almost always only one or two singles on the boat, i.e., 7-8 couples. HC had some way of engineering the group to go nude after a half hour into the trip. Used a lot of social pressure (poster didn't go into details, but I can kinda envision how he might go about it). About half the time everybody got naked, half the time there would be a couple of holdouts. Later in the afternoon, the poster, whose workplace faced the gift shop that stood in front of the path that led to HC's bungalow, would invariably at least one woman walking the path to HC's place (nothing else back there but him). Many times he witnessed wives/GFs coming back from HCs get questioned by husbands/BFs wondering where they went off to and they'd just claim to be at the gift shop or the bar. HC claimed that his average take from a cruise of 20 people (10 women) was a little over 2 hook-ups. Said he never got caught.
RetiredTimeHo 9y ago
I worked in a pretty popular nightlife area in So Cal with a decent amount of foreign travelers.
Can confirm the foreign women fucked tons of American men and the foreign dudes (especially euros) fucked plenty of American sluts and with far more ease than an equally attractive/charming local could ever hope to do.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 9y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCERfa8LcS4
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sourpuss_ashkenazi 9y ago
even in my bp days if a girlfriend went abroad I wouldn't have expected her to be faithful. I mean let's get real a second.
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What does one do if ones LTR wants to go travelling but you don't want to?
Spiral-knight 9y ago
Abundance mentality, you can always pick up another. Don't come across as suddenly scared, don't loose frame trying to stop her. Just shrug and tell her you want her cute friend's number before she leaves
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One learns that LTRs don't exist.
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I met girl whose mother went to Jamaica and when she got home she told her daughter how awesome the hotel was, and how amazing this one hotel clerk was, and RECOMMENDED her daughter go TO THAT HOTEL. They stayed in touch (letters and phone calls) afterward.
I told her immediately: You realize you mom fucked that guy, right?
She was like: You're an asshole.
She went, and came back, and said: He's so amazing! We're going out now, and he's going to move here and we're going to get married so he can get citizenship.
I was like: You fucked the same guy your mom fucked? You realize he's fucking a new tourist, likely every day.
Needless to say, months went by before he finally told her to blow off and told her he fucked her mom and does this with any number of women while they are on vacation.
So yeah.. when girls travel... they have fun. Don't we do they same?
Eugenics2015 9y ago
the problem with women is that they are not honest about it.
They pretend all this didnt happen
PrinceofSpades 9y ago
We do, but not like women do. It's just the nature of the way the sexes interact. You have to be a sociable and presentable man to travel and get laid. If you aren't getting any at home, traveling isn't likely going to help your case much. As long as you're a 4 or higher and know how to pick up on the most basic of social cues as a woman, you can just throw yourself out there and get devoured by the wolves. Sexual wolves.
When I traveled, seeing things was priority one, business was priority two, and sex was priority three. The women I met who were also traveling were more like sex with strangers because I won't ever get this chance again >>>>>>>>>>> oh, that's cool to see > oh my studies
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I think it depends on where you travel too as well.
I had a friend with zero game at home (Toronto). He was a university grad and was still a virgin. He moved for South Korea to teach, and he had four women in one month.
I think what you say is true to an extent, but depending on how you are views (read fetishized of exoticized) can he a huge factor. A tall 'Western' guy can get laid like crazy in some place in Asia without evening trying.
Interisti10 9y ago
white guy in asian country. cheat mode bro
PrinceofSpades 9y ago
Yeah I'm 6'5", 24, and lift. I'm strongly considering investing in some suits and doing that whole "rent a white guy" in China thing and just running a harem out of my apartment at this point, but more research is definitely in order first.
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Sounds like a good time.
I've actually had two friends who struggle here and did very well teaching in Asian: the aforementioned one who hit it big in South Korea, and another one who married a woman in Thailand.
Both struggled with women over here.
PrinceofSpades 9y ago
Yeah, I've long since lost track of my number count so I guess that constitutes success in terms of what most men wish they could have. I'm hesitant I guess because I've yet to fuck an Asian chick; maybe after I cross that one off I'll take my plan more seriously.
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I've dated a number of women from various ethnic groups, and I've found that the women from outside the 'West' have treated me better and respected me more. Obviously a small sample size, and this would be considered anecdotal evidence, but I find the people I've spoken two with similar dating experience have found the same to be true.
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I would also add that when you are a guy and travel to another place the women want the exotic new guy as well. I just change my tinder bio to "visiting ____ until (insert day), you know why I'm here" every girl who swipes right is dtf and it cuts a lot of the bullshit back and forth messaging.
BenOfMahogany 9y ago
I do the same thing. Works like a charm.
acetylcysteine 9y ago
very interesting technique, would weed out the majority of women just looking for a confidence boost as i assume they'd know whats up.
Moldy_Gecko 9y ago
I leave out the "You know why I'm here" because a lot of the girls that are just dtf aren't the best quality. However, I have enough faith in my game that I can get those "No ONS or Hookup" profile girls in bed on the first day.
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Moldy_Gecko 9y ago
Exactly, but you're giving them an excuse. Basically, you break through their ASD more easily than if you put "you know why I'm here". Only here a few days obviously means sex, but they can play it off as naivety.
Moldy_Gecko 9y ago
Can confirm. I live in a guesthouse in a prefecture considered the "Hawaii of Japan". Girls travel from mainland Japan, Taiwan, Korea and China constantly to get bored out by the Americans living here. I gladly oblige. I haven't met a single girl that is here traveling that isn't down to get turned inside out.
Even have a new HB7 that moved in and cheated on her bf the first day. And the bf will be here in a week.
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thewrightstuff88 9y ago
What's this prefecture called?
Elodrian 9y ago
Yeah, I thought the "Hawaii of Japan" was Hawaii.
2comment 9y ago
Probably Kagoshima, on the southern tip of Japan.
UmbrellaCorp1961 9y ago
Asking the important questions.
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What does "high n counts" mean?
KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
How many sexual partners she's had.
FakeGuru 9y ago
Travelling can mean a lot of things, especially in a country where most people don't even have a passport.
As for American women abroad-they are easy and in lots of countries the local woman are not, so they will get a lot of attention.
Albacorewing 9y ago
This article so reminds me of two women I worked with thirty years ago. They would travel together, and go on Club Med cruises (C. Med was noted in the 80's as the place for sex) and bang every crewman, and every willing guy they could. They would talk to other women in the office about it and on one of these trips might do it with thirty different guys. They laughed as they spoke about threesomes, the whole nine yards.
Both had boyfriends here in the States who were totally clueless that this was going on. One woman kept telling her boyfriend that she was not willing to have sex with him because she was saving herself for marriage. The other was living with some guy who paid her bills while she frivolously blew money on trivia.
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Can confirm. Dated a girl who was 19 when I was 23. She'd recently gotten back from 6 months overseas. Her partner total before she left was 4, her total after she got back was 10. If you're counting that's a new guy every month. If I recall, only one of them was a one night stand. Can you even imagine that fast of a cycle of dating/sex and breaking up? I sometimes go a couple weeks without seeing my friends, I can't imagine changing partners at the same frequency as I hang out with people.
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KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
Yeah. That'll be real helpful for learning how to bond with her eventual husband - she's had so much practice learning to bond with someone new!
/sarc off
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wtg2989 9y ago
Knew a cute girl in college who was really shy and a bit nerdy. Made straight A's. She would actually turn red and act bashful when i would try to flirt with her. She didn't really go out and party or anything. After she graduated, she moved to Prague I believe and now I always see Facebook pics of her and her travelling friend with new random local guys every week. Something about a change in geography just floods a woman's panties.
MakeEmSayAyy 9y ago
such a shame seeing the cute innocent girls from high school turn into cockwhores :/
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bluesclueswecantoo 9y ago
Men should adopt this attitude and travel for pussy
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Cant_Tell_Me_Nothin 9y ago
Currently a mid 20's family member of mine who is an avid traveler, is traveling abroad, alone with her best friend through Mexico. Her hot friend has a beta boyfriend back home. They are staying in hostels and going out out at night to different bars, drinking with random men and posting their stories on snapchat. Recently she posted how a Narco had sent her a whole bunch of flowers to her room. Looking at her you wouldn't think that she is that type of girl, as she seems almost too innocent.
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dking168 9y ago
As Chris Brown says "These hoes ain't loyal".
BallisticTherapy 9y ago
As Juicy J says "These hoes, they for everybody"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=269S4WgPWOw
Orig_analUse_rname 9y ago
One of my favorite songs of all time.
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If your LTR traveling without you, you have no business even being in that LTR. And if you're staying, you have serious problems.
People travel to get laid. Men and women - and yea, women obviously get laid more. If it bothers people that some of these women get double and triple teamed overseas, maybe they should stop giving them LTRs, rings and kids. Women are always gonna have as much sex as what they want no matter where they are.
Eugenics2015 9y ago
Its all fair and get the problem is that there is a giant cover-up in society where everyone tricks men into believing women are innocent.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 9y ago
exactly. this is common sense. i travel a lot and i fuck at hostels all the time. without even putting any effort into it. many of them have boyfriends or partners or what have you. i have a chick too. i love her. but i only live once and me fucking some french ass in the phillipines doesn't change that fact. i used to feel really bad about the whole "cheating" thing, but its really just an activity that you do with another person. like a workout partner at the gym... sorta lol
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this is a perfect example of how girls think about it (good on you, not a diss). they feel like it's OK because they're still giving you the "important" part - their emotions. Except they're wrong. That's all that's really important for a guy to give. Not at all OK for girls to do this. Not to mention that girls do not and can not fuck for sport even though they lie to themselves, you, their friends, and the internet. Always, fucking invests emotions on their part. Always. That's why it's important to fuck a girl as early as possible if you are actually considering LTR. Sex = emotions and love for a girl.
KermitTheeFrog777 9y ago
Perfect, this is sidebar material, should be considered a fundamental RP tenant.
McLarenX 9y ago
She will always think about that well-groomed, manly French lover she had on her Parisian vacation, who threw her around the bed and made her scream with pleasure. Especially while duty-fucking her BB husband missionary in the dark and pretending to orgasm.
It will be at this exact moment that she will contemplate a plan to divorce-rape him once the kids become independent from direct maternal care.
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Can't wait to never get married
seeing-red- 9y ago
Why wait? Go ahead and start now ;)
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RedPillAccount69 9y ago
Yup. I live mostly overseas. Am in Panama City as I type this. Every woman who travels without a man is fucking everything. I used to live in Africa, the interesting part there was that white women wouldn't even acknowledge my presence. They all wanted that big block cock. Doesn't matter where they were from or how they were raised.
redditalias7 9y ago
Women go to Africa for sexual tourism. Check out this vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNX9ky_5klk
sirmadam 9y ago
This is even sadder than the Thai bitches in the go-go bars…at least they're open about wanting your money. Jee-sus.
KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
I saw an interesting article on the UK Daily Mail a couple of years ago (soon after I ingested TRP) that mentioned (in the context of some other issue that I forget) 2 young children that contracted HIV from their mother via breast feeding after she returned from Africa. She was part of a six week (-ish?) humanitarian mission from her church, travelling without her husband, but with other members of her congregation. Apparently, she had lots, and lots, and lots of unprotected vaginal and anal multiple partner sex sessions with numerous different partners.
But she's all broken up about her sins and is real, real sorry about it. Apparently hubby forgave her, too. (?!?!?!?) 'Cause that's what Jesus (by way of his feminist BP pastor) told him to do.
Deano101 9y ago
Holy shit do I remember that. Travelling with her church! If ever there was a redpill lesson, that was it. Her poor kids
vandaalen 9y ago
Friend of mine is working for NGOs doing development in the third world, mainly in Africa. You would not believe the stories of endless parties full of sex, champagne and cocaine he told me.
Especially occassions in the consulates were known to escalate into huge orgies that would make every ancient Roman consul proud.
tio1w 9y ago
I remember that one perfectly. She had copious amounts of unprotected anal sex with a multitude of partners.
Society still sided with her even after knowing everything that happened.
Having intrinsic reproductive value is great.
EDIT: Does anyone have a link to the article? I can't find it and would really like to read it again. I think this was in the UK.
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Can someone please post this article?
[deleted] 9y ago
So she did not get sent to prison?
tio1w 9y ago
Not when I read the article if I remember correctly.
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Makes me want to support Sharia Law. Stone that bitch to death in the street.
Clint_Redwood 9y ago
or just get rid of your ideas taught to you by society on how virtuous women are.
[deleted] 9y ago
Then you don't know crap about Shariah law. It's unbelievably oppressive to men, and destructive to civilisation. If you don't believe me, spend a week in the Islamic State.
tio1w 9y ago
Sharia law is incredible hostile towards men.
Don't believe me, have a look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBm8GqMNwXU
EDIT: This is a long documentary about divorce in Iran in the 90s. Look at the way women manipulate the judge and the court. Look at how even 16 years olds fake temporary insanity to get their way. Witness a woman committing perjury in court and still escape any punishment. Witness the young girl (primary school age) display extreme hypergamy because the men she sees daily at court are no good (even though they are always the ones being fucked).
It's long but very worth it.
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Gawernator 9y ago
Wow, thanks for sharing. I'm skipping around, it's impressive how different their society is. In some cases you feel bad for the woman actually.
tio1w 9y ago
You're clearly not watching the same documentary I watched...
Gawernator 9y ago
I just saw the part with the probably 14 year old girl saying she wanted to go to school and all that
anibustr 9y ago
Thing is current sharia law is mixed with culture. Women are supposed to be educated in sharia but seperately. Also man has to pay one-time payment to women after divorce.
You thought men can easily have 4 wives? Nope. Treat any wife unequally and it's considered sin, you'll get punished by sharia court. Real sharia, one which does not have culture mixed in, greatly favors women. It promotes LTRs. I personally prefer LTRs so not a bad thing personally.
Good side is that it promotes feminine and masculine gender roles, not the equality bs.
[deleted] 9y ago
Was thinking about taking a trip to Panama city Beach the third week of March.. Is that a bad time or do most of the dunks leave by then?
RedPillAccount69 9y ago
I'm in Panama City, Panama!
[deleted] 9y ago
That's where I'm a going.. Decent place to live?? I have enough saved up to buy a house down there, just need a job with insurance
RedPillAccount69 9y ago
Ah ok.. yeah, it's a nice place. You just have to learn to like people and the world. That is, don't come in with an attitude that because you are american you are better than other people, or that people should do things the way Americans do.
A lot of Americans here think that way and wind up hating it, and being hated by everybody.
In the end, people are all the same at heart and you should be accepting and welcoming of cultural differences.
Plus, you will bang tons of pussy.
[deleted] 9y ago
Is there a big motorcycle scene there?
RedPillAccount69 9y ago
no, but there is one, I've seen it. On weekends there is a bar in El Cangrejo called La Brasserie, which has cheap beer. Motorcycle groups tend to congregate there so that is where I would go if I wanted to meet other motorcyclists.
RunawayGrain 9y ago
I believe he means Panama City, Panama judging by the overseas comment.
fatboybug 9y ago
That will be the middle of spring break. I can confirm cuz I live here..... about two blocks from the madness........
Clint_Redwood 9y ago
I thought they clamped down hard on parties there now?
pro tip buy a $4 disposable phone when cursing the strip. Set your main phone to call it. throw it into a car full of girls.
Enjoy fucking them all
Orig_analUse_rname 9y ago
Could you please explain this in other words becuase I dont understand what you mean?
Clint_Redwood 9y ago
Go to walmart
Buy $4 disposable phone
Drive down the strip in Panama City, usually cars are bumper to bumper and barely moving.
See car full of hot girls behind you or in opposite lane
Throw phone through the window
call the phone
bang the girls. trust me, they'll be flattered and giddy as fuck that someone was so brazen
fatboybug 9y ago
Bars close at 2AM rather than 4AM,no booze on the beach period during the month of March and you must have an ID during the other months,no overnight scooter rentals. The party is still on. Now I have to say that I have seen a lot of stuff on the beach but your pro tip is actually one of the most thought out pro tips I have heard......I'll keep you updated cuz I am going to try it. LOL
Your_Coke_Dealer 9y ago
Please explain this trick or the story behind it
[deleted] 9y ago
Whats not to get? It's an inventive way to catch girls.
[deleted] 9y ago
Is the madness worth seeing? And is it a good place to live, because I'm thinking about moving
lawr11 9y ago
I went there in 2014.
9/10 would and will go again when I can afford it.
fatboybug 9y ago
What it basically breaks down to is other peoples kids drunk as hell,raisin hell and havin a large time with a pocket full of daddies plastic. It is a wonderful place to live.
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would defiantly move to florida this summer if I had a decent job lined up down there..
sickofbeingaffraid 9y ago
My beta brother stayed sexless for a year while his girlfriend went abroad for the whole year. Now that she came back he spent all his money on her for V-day and he didn't even get sex in exchange. When he told me that he had tears in his eyes. But they were tears of joy, because "at last i have found the one, who is not like the other ones and who wouldn't give away sex easily". He truly believe she isn't a slut and she is some kind of saint.
500lbdeadlift 9y ago
Jesus tits, what a moron. He'll be divorced raped in 7-10 years.
KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
After she has 2 kids that aren't his.
tsudonimh 9y ago
Heh, there's a woman in my office who is recently divorced. She went on a solo trip to the US for a fortnight.
When she got back, I overheard a conversation with a guy she works with.
Him: Did you have a good time? Her: Yep, it was great. The tour guide was fantastic, he taught me so much. Him: Really? That good, huh? winks Her: Not like that! We were in a group. Him: He taught you in a group? That's a bit more cosmopolitan than I would have expected from you. Her: Oooooooo! You!
She then whacked him on the arm, and he smirked and went back to work.
But I could see that instant of panic at the thought she was being judged. The guy wasn't judging though, he clearly knows what women get up to when traveling alone.
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tio1w 9y ago
She probably doesn't even suck him...
RP-on-AF1 9y ago
TIL people still say fortnight
Elodrian 9y ago
It's like putting a monacle on your prose.
votre-mere 9y ago
Really? It's dead common here in Britain.
verify_account 9y ago
They also say "mum" "wanker" and other quaint British things. It's cute.
votre-mere 9y ago
Shocking news: British people have a different vocabulary to Americans.
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Moldy_Gecko 9y ago
Where the fuck did you get your WRONG stats?
TheSelfGoverned 9y ago
So there are a small percentage of guys with 1,000+ then?
[deleted] 9y ago
Waat - source please? I've heard more like 10-20.
the_Darkling 9y ago
...no. Maybe 10-15 for the sluttier ones. 4-7 for the average chicks.
[deleted] 9y ago
you kidding me, the sluttier ones are closer to triple digits than single digits. I've heard more than enough first hand experiences.
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thegapinglotus 9y ago
This assumption is ridiculous, you know that, right? It doesn't account for relationships, or, um, the fact that women do not fuck a different guy every other night.
Luis_McLovin 9y ago
That only applies to women who go out 3 nights a week consecutively for 4.5 years, and for women who are hot. Thats not the average. The average is much more realistic is 1-2 nights out a week in first/second year, 1 night a week in the third/fourth year (excluding freshers week, where it will be every night). The aforementioned women is 1) hot 2) easy. Even then the average woman definitely doesn't seal the deal half the time. I live in college, in a flat with 3 women, who go out partying, they're super slutty, they keep track in the living room the amount of men fucked. They do not seal the deal 1/2 of the time. More like every 4-6 weeks (once a month). That comes to a much lower figure of about 35 partners during the whole 4.5 year span in college, 9-10 per year, which is extremely slutty (they are, I even fucked one of them, she was so fucking easy to game, required no effort on my part, she literally said "I won't stop you").
The flatmate with the highest amount of men fucked, she is 23, she has had 38 partners.
By your ridiculous estimates where they seal the deal half the time and go out 3 nights a week, that would mean 2 new pieces of cock inside of them EVERY WEEK for FOUR AND A HALF YEARS. Have you gone to uni mate?
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Luis_McLovin 9y ago
Perhaps uni culture is significantly different in the USA and/or at the university at which you study and/or the course which these kinds of women do at your uni compared to myself (United Kingdom, Manchester).
United Kingdom has the "strict upper lip" society/culture and are quite sexually reserved publicly and are hush-hush. Talking about sex is taboo. Sluts still exist of course, its only that your game must be 99% covert (Its so much fun running covert game).
I study in the UK in Manchester, my experience is different than yours, that's not to say yours isn't like how you said it is, however mine has been different. My uni has courses such as "fashion" which of course is bullshit, and these girls are generally sluts BUT the big but is, you can't glean that info from them from talking to them in public where they are polite, if you're able isolate them, run game on them, you will most definitely get them back to yours and fuck them senseless. These women fear the social aspect of being deemed a slut big time, here in the UK you have to disarm their hamster big time, game them get them to your flat whilst all the while appearing innocent. Then dominate and fuck. Good boy on the outside, bad boy on the inside.
Give you background info, Manchester is a large metropolitan area with a student population exceeding 100,000 across several universities. City life, not campus. Nights out means going to nightclubs in the cities. Some are student centric clubs (meaning only students tend to go to these clubs) and some aren't. Plenty of places to go for drinks, plenty of restaurants, plenty of parks, museums. Plenty of date ideas, or quick bar getaways to "get to know you" (hahahahaha). But the culture/society of England is nowhere near as disinhibited as the USA, to game and plate women without suffering a loss in reputation and/or receiving harsh chastisement publicly requires top-notch game in getting them tingly without appearing to be turned on yourself (it's all "by accident" when really you've orchestrated it all). It's quite fun and I'm only apprentice, swallowed the pill recently, looking to plate up in the next few weeks my first ever plate.
EDIT: Your claim is bullshit. Even though it's physically possible for a women to have that many partners, that in no way is the average. At all. Calling bullshit on your knowledge.