So I was talking to a relative of mine who was going through a pretty rough separation. His girlfriend of 9 years, with 2 kids, the oldest not being his own. She was morbidly obese as well as a smoker whilst he was a veteran who worked for the government, owned his own home, and was an amateur MMA fighter.
It a started when one day, out of the blue, he reached out to me to ask "what the deal is with his girlfriend." Unbeknownst to him, I have followed TheRedPill extensively.
His girlfriend didn't want to stay with him anymore, and wanted to become a live in roommate. The non-biological son was her (former) husband's son. There was a history of domestic violence between her former husband, as well as a history between them. At least once in both relationships was she the aggressor. It was a fucked up situation.
So I had given him several books: the Manipulated Man, the Rational Male, No More Mr. Nice Guy, etc. Told him not to talk to her and to record her whenever she became hostile.
"Be stoic. Channel your inner robot. She's looking for cracks in your armor. Pretend you have none."
So this didn't sit well with the girl apparently. She attempted to engage in an argument with him. He ignored her and turned his back on her to retrieve his phone.
In that time, she slammed her face into the wall. She then made a show of being on the phone with the police.
He's freaking out, and calling me up. Told him that I knew this girl well and that this wasn't unusual behavior. Best thing he could do was sit outside with his camera on, with his hands visible, and wait for the police.
The police never came, and the girl began to text him something along the lines of "I guess they thought it was a prank, but just remember you are one phone call away from getting your ass thrown in jail and losing everything."
So he calls me back up and asks what he should do.
I tell him that this has become a life-or-death situation. He needs to make a choice.
"Call the police, and tell them she threatened your life with a deadly weapon. Remember, there's no going back. The ball is in your court. Whatever you decide, make sure it's a decision you can live with."
So he does exactly that. The police show up, and they are skeptical. The girl is raging at this point. As the police walk away, she throws a table at him. The police come back and still don't arrest her. Instead, they follow her to her relative's house, kids in tow.
So the threats continue over the phone and through social media. A score of random numbers sending him threats just blowing up his phone. Men and women alike telling he's complete scum etc. "Kids will love their new step dad more" and "you'll never see your son again." I advise him to get a restraining order on the girl, and when she's served she flips the fuck out. She ended up breaking into his house while he was at work after the order was in place. I had helped him install cameras literally the day before. Medication, cash, wallet, etc were taken and the cameras were missing. He called the police, and they did a "quick look" through the items taken from the home and surprise surprise! None of the stolen items were found amongst the pile of clothes. They appeared in his mailbox a week later after talking to a different officer in a different department.
In the midst of this chaos, I kept hearing the same thing: "I can't believe she'd do this." "What happened to the beautiful angel I fell in love with." "This redpill stuff can't be right, can it? Are all women like this?" "I never thought she'd be capable of this." "When I met her, she seemed like she was such a family oriented person. She seemed like such a good mother to her kids and that's what I loved about her. Now, she just uses them as pawns and it's sick!"
To which I replied: "Dude, she was still married to her husband when she fucked you and had your kid. She told everyone you kidnapped and raped her when you first got together years ago. She was never the woman you imagined. She's a piece of shit."
"You just loved the idea of her. You created the perfect woman in your imagination and fell in love the idea of her. You transposed the features of the woman you knew in real life with the woman in your mind. Unfortunately for you, that's where the similarities ended."
The conclusion is that what you think of a woman will never quite line up with the reality of the women you're with at the time. Quite often, the maiden we dream up in our minds will always dispell our illusions given time and circumstance, especially when you have blue pilled glasses on.
Lucky for him, he reached out to me and I happened to have the answers he sought. Now he gets dwell on his failed relationship in the comfort of his own home, with a court order protecting him, and visitation rights to his child. No doubt in my mind that his ass would've ended up in jail, having to beg for mercy from both her and the courts, while his ex is screwing other men in his bed and his ass is sleeping on a friend's couch with more than half his check going to his mortgage and his ex.
As it stands, she was arrested and is now out on bail. She cannot come within 100 yards of him and all their communications he can now be legally record.
Don't mistake the maiden in your mind with the woman you're dating. Women have no qualms about letting you delude yourself for their own benefit. It's a matter of survival for women.
(Relationships and specific actions have been changed to preserve anonymity.)
ExcellentStudio 5y ago
Good post but one part that irked me was when your friend asked "are all women like this" among the This'll there standard freshly redpilled questions, the implication I got from that is indeed all women are like this. This is not an example of AWALT, this is an example of mental illness, specifically BPD. Not all women will break into your house and steal your shit and need restraining orders
warburgio 5y ago
You just loved the idea of her- this resonates very much. We are all dealing with impressions of things, people etc. it is a very useful skill to have to be able to look at things as they are.
821sleepingbag 5y ago
It’s actually so shocking the number of women that do crazy manipulative things to men. This is good advice, have your camera ready and make sure you can prove beyond reasonable doubt that you are the innocent party. The legal system is stacked in favour of women. Honestly the risks of a LTR and kids are so high these days: no wonder they call it TRP on hard mode
SKRedPill 5y ago
Women rape a man's freedom to live - this is the female version of rape. This itself ought to show you why men are really the gatekeepers of commitment.
throwabcdaway3 5y ago
I dont understand this part
WarriorMonkMode 5y ago
Forgot his wallet at home, medication, and cash stashed away in his sock drawer were taken, the cameras we installed were disconnected and taken as well. Of course, we caught her and company in the act. Police don't feel that the protection order was justified (because of course she is a poor single mother and look at the tears she's shedding) so they gave her a "pussy pass" and did a cursory inspection of the belongings- which of course only consisted of clothes she had taken during the trip and was absent all the stolen property.
Basically the police are useless but are useful idiots for manipulative women and a man's worst enemy when it comes to domestic disputes. I could've been more clear in my post but I was in a rush.
muddynips 5y ago
The bit about police is something I wish was drummed into people more on this sub. Police don’t administer justice, they are there to enforce their views of societal norms. Police in any society are an expression of that society’s culture, not it’s laws.
That’s why women are given passes on robbing and lying in times of crisis. That’s why it’s important to be absolutely methodical in documenting your interactions. If you have a preponderance of evidence, you enable the police to do their jobs with limited bias. But if they are allowed discretion, they will always favor the woman.
p3n1x 5y ago
AND... Police ARE NOT LAWYERS OR JUDGES. Don't rely on them to be one.
The moment many of the above issues occur, you involve a lawyer.
WarriorMonkMode 5y ago
Yeah man police are just basically people who've monopolized force and violence. They truly are an iteration of Agent Smith.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
They do what they are told just like everyone of us does what we are told when our
slave ownerboss tells us to do something. Most of them know it's bullshit. What can they do? They have zero power to buck the system as individuals.CensorThis111 5y ago
Important lesson in here: Cops are selected and trained based off how stupid and easy to manipulate they are. The result is a bunch of people who have shitloads of authority but little to no intelligence/understanding/integrity.
Anytime you contact the police about an issue, have plans in place in case they A. do absolutely nothing to help you, or B. make things worse by siding with a lying perp.
The fact that a raging human being can throw a damn table at someone and get a free pass is a case in point on how useless these overdressed fuckheads are.
monsieurhire2 5y ago
Eh.... I think you are falling for their play dumb routine. At the very least, they possess cunning. They aren't in the justice business. They are in the arrest and enslave people for fun and profit business. So they will size up a situation based on outcomes beneficial to the "arrest and enslave people" business.
redpill77 5y ago
Do cops get kick backs? I thought it was judges.
monsieurhire2 5y ago
They all get kickbacks in several ways, some official and legal, some unofficial and illegal. There are many well-written, exhaustively documented books on the subject. All of this information is a few google searches away.
The thing is, it depresses and terrifies people, so many would just rather not think about it.
Prisons contract workers to private corporations for pennies on the dollar. It's slave labor. It's legally permissible according to the exception made by the 13th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution that made it unconstitutional to enslave people based on their ethnicity ("race"), but permitted an exception for criminals. This then created a loophole to re-enslave based on criminal behavior, which seems reasonable in a moral society, but in an immoral society, where the Establishment is predatory, and denies people equal opportunity, and actively chooses to disinherit, disenfranchise, exclude, etc. people based on their ethnicity, it becomes a license to criminalize all sorts of behavior, the main one being drug use. People use drugs to escape a stressful society that demands they work long hours for little compensation. Think about all the kids going to school and doing homework. Nobody pays them to do all that work. That's why many turn to drugs. To escape. But then, the Establishment can say, you are damaging your brain, and we have an interest in your brain, because we want assets not liabilities. So, if you don't take care of your brain, we will lock you up and put you to work for us at a fraction of what your labor would command on the open market. Also, the Establishment is in bed with the drug runners, either actively, or passively, collecting bribes and taxes. Also, the Establishment uses the drug war as a jobs program. Think about all the people from wealthy families who go into the law and are part of the drug war. Those jobs don't exist without the drug war. They also give those people powers to seize property and resell it, incarcerate people, invade their homes, etc. etc. It's basically like a low-level war that is going on all the time, except they don't call it war, they call it politics.
Nobody-Zero 5y ago
Could you recommend me some?
Arednor13 5y ago
It’s the 21st century. Many of the “problems” that we see in society today aren’t just solvable, but actually would just disappear if the establishment didn’t actively drive them. The War on Terror is a self-fulfilling, never ending cycle of violence that creates the very terrorists that it’s supposed to fight. The War on Drugs funds the cartels that it’s supposed to fight and imprisons those it’s supposed to protect. The welfare state keeps Americans impoverished by not only stripping them of any incentive to improve their lot in life, but actively punishing them for it. World hunger and poverty allows for the extravagant waste of the first world. And on and on the cycle goes. After conquering the planet, the greatest and only enemy of man is man. And one day we’ll go too far in the fight against ourselves and destroy everything.
So live every day for yourself, because you only live once and you will soon be gone and forgotten.
WarriorMonkMode 5y ago
The Shirky Principle: "Institutions will try to preserve the problem to which they are the solution."
sweetleef 5y ago
Women start the relationship hoping the man will change, but he doesn't.
Men start the relationship hoping the woman won't change, but she does.
- unknown
Avertus 5y ago
You took a big gamble in sharing TRP to your friend and intervening in that family's situation. Could have backfired for all you know. And that woman sure sounds like BPD (or feminism, at this day and age it's difficult to distinguish) and could have spilled the mess to your own life as well.
WarriorMonkMode 5y ago
I did, a big one. I was fairly insolated and she had no idea I was involved.
I didn't underestimate her. I kept myself separated. It just seemed like the guy became a genius in the course of days and I'll admit, it was amusing to see the reactions of a woman who had a man wrapped around her finger so completely lose control.
All I can say is that I never had him utter a word of our plans. I had him silently put everything together. Closing bank accounts, bringing his dog to my place, closing credit cards, filling out separation paperwork etc. Then, I had him telling her that he wanted to get counseling and "make things work." Once everything was in place, I can only describe it as a blitzkrieg where everything just seemed to hit her more than once. She lost everything in a day.
The crazy part is she still caused him problems. She wasn't a dumb woman, she just wasn't as smart as me. I'm sure if she had learned of my involvement sooner, things would've been different. As it stands, we both where body cameras now and I myself am under 24 hour video surveillance for my work as well.
I think a big problem with attempting to share TRP with others is the delivery: men try to "sell" trp when it doesn't need anyone to. TRP is valuable at it's base and all you need to do is find someone that's hungry for knowledge. It was a risk, but a calculated one. As it stands, she ended up fulfilling every prediction I made which only sealed the redpill into this guy.
Let me repeat, trp doesn't need a salesman. It behooves every member here to become a "creator" rather than a "consumer" when it comes to trp knowledge. Then it makes you sound a lot more like a prophet rather than a parrot when you share your stories. Big difference.
creepy_porn_lawyer 5y ago
I am new to TRP, but apparently it has always been within me. I am glad to find a resource like this, and hopefully one day share some horror stories from my youth.
Good on you for taking that risk to help your friend, you theoretically saved his and his child's relationship, and a lot of possible trouble from the destructive ex.
WarriorMonkMode 5y ago
I was compensated heavily. It wasn't strictly out of the goodness of my heart.
Proto_Sigma 5y ago
In what way were you compensated?
WarriorMonkMode 5y ago
I needed work done that would've costed thousands of dollars that he just so happened to specialize in. Got it done for free. On top of that, I acquired a comrade/brother/follower whatever you want to call it. He's read some horror stories here and realized how close he was to the edge of the abyss.
I usually deal in favors over cash value. Seems to go farther in the long run. Think godfather.
dr_warlock 5y ago
You didn't have the hard drive containing the recordings?
WarriorMonkMode 5y ago
Look. We did! We saw her disconnecting the cameras with her friend. We saw, on the last remaining camera before that was taken as well, her retrieving the cameras and various items.
I was sure it was a slam dunk. That was until he told me a woman officer was investigating.
Needless to say, after the "investigation" the female officer found no signs of wrong doing.
That's just the reality: officers have a lot of discretion when it comes to which laws they enforce and which they don't.
The bias only stopped when she violated in a neighboring town and was arrested by a different department- they were much more professional.
Dude_Mon 5y ago
Man, female officers can be hit or miss, but I honestly think male officers can be worse. Their protective instinct kicks in every time (especially if the woman is attractive).
When I got arrested for "assault", the male officer not only stuck me with 4 charges on the spot, he called my ex about things that happened in the past, and managed to come up with 2 more charges to tack on there.
The city prosecutor and the city judge were both female. I overheard the prosecutor talking to my lawyer about how bullshit the charges were. They basically dropped everything with just a year probation.
dr_warlock 5y ago
Just a record of an arrest or charge still follows you unless expunged. Plus loss of wages to attend court and possible legal expenses. Still fucked.
Dude_Mon 5y ago
Oh yeah, definitely still fucked me over pretty good, still not totally done with the repercussions of it. It turned my whole life upside down. That was my defining red-pill moment, for sure.
ELMasTurbo 5y ago
How is he an amateur MMA fighter and so blue pilled??
WarriorMonkMode 5y ago
He wanted to beeeliiieeeve in the power of love!
In seriousness, he was ripe for the red pill: he started lifting and going to the gym the last two years. It wasn't by chance that he reached out: he remembered my talking about redpill truths months earlier and it resonated with him apparently.
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WarriorMonkMode 5y ago
Wait, yeah she stole the physical cameras but no she didn't have access to the cloud server. They were just cheap little things you got on Amazon.
At one point, he wanted to change the alarm system and the door locks, but I urged him not to so we could "leave the door open" to future crimes. As it stands, this and a few other violations deemed the restraining order valid by the Courts and they made it permanent, so it worked out in the end.
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WarriorMonkMode 5y ago
Yeah, can you fucking believe it? If it was a guy, I guarantee he would've been dragged away in cuffs.
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