Summary: Female columnist, 26, moves to Silicon Valley from New York. Quickly discovers that the dating scene is completely different, and for the worse - she can't get tingles for quiet/shy/nerdy guys. These are RedPill truths in action.
Meet Emily Holt, a popular contributor to Vogue magazine. Having just turned 26, she decided to move out of New York and go to Silicon Valley because she'd heard that dating prospects were great there. However...
While there are a lot of attractive options out here who match my type—smart, dark, slightly scruffy, maybe wearing glasses and a decent pair of jeans—very few of them seem to know how to make eye contact with a girl, even fewer know how to talk to her.
ie. pasty hopeless betas who have been raised to "treat women well", "embrace your inner femininity", etc.
The odds are good, but the goods are odd... Consider a highlight reel of the local bachelors I’ve come across on Tinder: a guy posing with Steve Wozniak (I think this was supposed to be impressive?); a guy wearing Google Glass; a “happily married entrepreneur and father of three”; a guy in front of a Tesla sign; and a guy who messaged me, “In 50% of your photos you’re holding an iPhone. It may interest you to find out that I invented the iPhone. More accurately I was an engineer on the original iPhone…I can show you all the new stuff since you were last here. There’s a new Panera Bread in Cupertino.”
Only a woman would look at a guy posing with a tech giant (Wozniak), a man interested in Google Glass technology, converse with a man who helped invent the iPhone... and think to herself "meh" because they aren't alphas. Genuine accomplishments, interests, intelligence, etc - they mean nothing to women. Girls only care about outward projected status and looks, nothing more. You could be a total asshole, but if you're hot and rent a Ferrari to drive around town, you'll create moister vaginas than any engineer who boasts about developing iPhones.
One guy I swiped right on looked promising: olive skin, over five foot eight, strong features.
Finally! Thank heavens, a man over 5'8''. Wouldn't want to be seen going out with a manlet, now, would we? /s
When we agreed to meet for a drink, I was imagining some sort of swarthy Latin or Italian lover. What walked into the bar, however, was a scrawny, five foot eight YouTube programmer in a hoodie. It wasn’t a total deal-breaker, but there wasn’t any chemistry.
She thought she could revist the days of getting plowed in the ass by the tag-team of Raoul and Ferdinand while on spring break in Spain. But no, it was just another beta. No confidence or muscles. Instant attraction killer.
There's more to this article and I'll let you read the rest on your own. But before I finish up, here's another interesting tidbit a few paragraphs later:
Plus, all the guys I felt attracted to were wearing wedding rings.
Of course, honey. It's because women go crazy over taken guys all the time, it's the basic concept of pre-selection. Isn't it scary how RedPill can predict your behavior and attitude almost perfectly?
Bottom line... if you live in a techy area like Seattle, Silicon Valley, etc, your competition is a bunch doughy male-feminist types who couldn't turn a girl on if their life depended on it. Putting on some solid muscle, dressing well and acting cocky will instantly make you the hottest guy in town.
TL;DR: Silicon Valley and other tech areas may have a greater man/woman ratio, but the men are usually complete losers when it comes to attracting women. Know your competition. Beat them.
Littobubbo 7y ago
Before I moved to South Korea, I fell for two guys. One of them was a programmer. He wasn't hot in the typical means, but fairly normal looking. He was tall and kind of lanky. He was however very polite, considerate, introspective, and confident in his own life. That is what drew me to him. Fast forward 9 months Im here dating these damn alpha airforce guys who... really .. don't know shit and can't get past the sex. I miss CA. I miss those "betas"
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MyLittleAtomBomb 8y ago
I wonder if Chad's cock popped out of her mouth and gave her that lazy eye.
dicklord_airplane 8y ago
In the current day, all of your accomomplishments and genuine value to society dont make you more attractive unless you have game. This is just how women are. Dont be angry. Accept reality and act accordingly because women dont owe you shit.
Anyways, ive seen this play out many times because i graduated from a strict engineering university thats was no more than 30% female. Myself and lots of dudes at the school had great propsects, but it didnt make us more attractive to our female peers. I witnessed lots of girls really try to make it work with virtuous nerdy types of dudes because they honestly wanted to be attracted to virtue and intelligence alone, but it never worked. I saw lots of girls become frustrated with themselves as they found themselves repulsed by "good, decent" guys because those nerds had zero game... Myself included. I felt bad for those girls because they had also been fed the same lies about attraction. Some girls genuinely feel ashamed or defective that they dont feel attracted to virtuous "beta" men. "Why cant i just feel that electric attraction to good guys who will treat me right and stick around for me?"
Its a shame that so many scientists and engineers arent trained in social graces and personal confidence. Its cheating men, women, and society out of strong relationships. Without social skills and social capital, dudes just arent attractive. if youve only got money to offer, then youll mostly only attract hookers and gold diggers.
Whisper 8y ago
Women do not care about intellectual accomplishments. Their sexual attraction instincts were last calibrated in the Paleolithic era, when there was no such thing as an intellectual accomplishment.
Bill the iPhone engineer would, here and now, be a far better bet as the father of her children than Chad the frontman in a garage band that plays the local bars. However, Chad bears much more superficial resemblance to a successful Paleolithic hunter, and that's really all that matters.
Desire is not calculated. Desire is not deliberate. Desire cannot be negotiated.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
This is a good way of implying "AWALT but it ain't their fault because evolution" - true, true, but I think dudes struggle the most with accepting the basic, primal nature of women which is why AWALT gets so much resistance. I mean if there wasn't any intellectual accomplishments in the paleolithic era, then why can men appreciate them when women rarely can? One would assume both sexes have evolved at the same rate.. or perhaps... not? Intriguing.
Whisper 8y ago
Because "appreciate" means two totally different things in these two contexts.
We aren't erotically excited by math skills, either.
DexterousRichard 8y ago
Sometimes I think Asian girls are different. They've had a much longer period of civilization in which intellectual and economic achievement was more important than physical prowess. Maybe their brains have evolved a bit more to value those things. Or maybe it's just culture.
Red_August 8y ago
Intellectual power does matter but it must be accompanied by leadership. That's when you get power. Power is what wets the palaeolithic pussy and still wets the post-Britney pussy.
Let's not confound the rare Elon or Steve with the army of geeks. It doesn't matter if "Geek" advances silicon doping for n-gates, he's a minion in an army of mostly replaceable minions. Worst yet, he's a boastful minion with no power. He walks the plank like 99.99% of Silicon Valley. Palaeolithic or post-Britney pussy will still see you for who you are: a push-over. It doesn't matter if you're smart in that context, you're just a meal ticket that can be pushed-over any day now. To Britney, or Tiffany or Amanda, "Bill Geek" the guy that engineered (with a team) the heat sink adhesive improvements behind the wifi chip in the 4S will still be pushed aside and be quiet when Chad walks in front of him in the restaurant waiting line. Bill Geek will bore the girl with autistic-speak. Bill Geek doesn't have a receiver for the female emotion "B" channel of communication. Bill Geek is clueless.
So does he make a better husband? He brings something else, that's all. The stability. Yawn. The dedication. Yawn. The safe Toyota with the the synthetic oil he shopped for 4 hours last Saturday. Yawn.
The original oilmen were eventually all replaced (except a few huge entrepreneurs - the Elons and Steves of the time) by professional sharks because the original oilmen were hillbillies. Now its finance and sharks that run oil. Guys that know power. Same thing is happening in Silicon Valley. Call it the cycle of business maturity. Bill the Geek is a Beta by any other name and has been sniffed out as a Beta by a 2.5M year old brain which hasn't been wrong yet.
Whisper 8y ago
You managed to think evoluationarily... for a little bit. But not all the way.
Let me help you get out of the bigger box.
Why the fuck do you think excitement is attractive? Riddle me that. In the Paleolithic era, excitement usually involves being eaten, or dying of disease. Excitement is not a survival quality.
So why does Cindy Lou Who, when she's all growed up, crave exciting garage-band Chad over boring iphone Bill?
What you have failed to realize is that Chad isn't exciting. Chad is boring as toast. What the fuck would Socrates, Alexander the Great, Ghengis Khan, Siddhārtha Gautama, Leonardo da Vinci, Joseph Stalin, or Mohandas Gandhi have to talk about with garage-band Chad?
So why do women find Chad exciting? Because he is attractive. They are genetically programmed to be excited by a man who acts confident and indifferent, even when that man is boring as wet cardboard.
You think that Chad is attractive because he is exciting? No, Chad is exciting because he is attractive.
Garage-band Chad is a loser. He fools the female mating instincts by superficially mimicking the attitude and bearing of a successful paleolithic hunter, but he is all hat and no trousers. Your typical garage-band variety Chad is struggling with the rent if he's not sleeping on some friends' couch. The point is, he gets laid anyway. It's the one thing he's good at.
Because, like the harmless mimic species that adapt the warning coloration of something that's actually venomous, he apes the body language and poise of someone who actually was a good bet back when we were chasing down antelope with sharp sticks.
Exciting is not a benefit genes select for. It's a feeling used by genes to get women to select for something else.
ZenerDiod 8y ago
To further expand, exciting is what the brain does in general whenever it wants to get us to do something. That's why people take stimulants.
Even alcohol stimulates some parts of the brain.
DaBaulz 8y ago
Your post is mostly right but this is false - "Your typical garage-band variety Chad is struggling with the rent if he's not sleeping on some friends' couch. The point is, he gets laid anyway. It's the one thing he's good at."
That is what people say about chads. But there are lots of chads with jobs, careers and great lives ahead of them. everyone complains about the girl who left them for the deadbeat rocker. But that rocker isn't always a deadbeat, in fact they are closer to success then the blooper with a career. You can have all the money in the world,but if you do not have the right philosophy then it is for nothing. That is why Chad is attractive, he at least has the right philosophy.
Red_August 8y ago
I'll add that garage-band Chad is also only sexually successful in the environment which befits him. I'm fine with you painting him as very dull. He is but one example of many alpha-types. He will signal some of the desired characteristics of the paleo winner still very much anchored in the vestigial bits of the female brain, I agree. What is exciting is what is arousing in this context - the tingles. No argument here that I can see.
The modern beta was a necessary neolithic invention, prior to this, the tribe or band largely fulfilled his function. She will trade sex quid pro quo with Bill but give it to Chad. She will have financial security with Bill, none with that type of Chad. Neither one of these specific personae will provide an easy complete experience for Britney in our relatively new social structure.
Intelligence is however still selected for. The trait is not selected for in isolation or exclusion of other traits, and that's important. You can see ample evidence of its selection by comparing the dimorphism between men and women - height and intelligence are but two clear examples. So yes, the calibration is palaeolithic. But no, intelligence is definitely part of the product mix selected for during competition.
Keep in mind that many of the qualities selected for are higher order qualities composed of several traits. Being higher ordered allows for changing times and environments. It allows for variability. For example, it is 'warrior' ability and not 'spear-chucking' ability per se which would be selected for. You're thus ok to be a good warrior with mad gun skills but poor spear-chucking ability. The whole purpose of "sexual" reproduction requires this leeway because it is for adaptation - let the men mix it up and pick the one that does best in the current environment/time. Selected mountain men are different to desert men. So despite the emergence of some vestigial artefacts because we've evolved for much longer in a much different environment, the biology of sexual reproduction, and of selection still works very well today because it is adaptive and the qualities selected for are mostly higher ordered. On the aggregate, the beta still loses for good reason.
Whisper 8y ago
That's why I choose garage-band Chad to talk about. He is the lowest common denominator of sexual attractiveness. He is attractive without any the features that make for actual evolutionary advantage in other Chads... MMA fighter Chad, entrepreneur Chad, con artist Chad, athlete Chad, trust fund Chad, etc.
The reason garage band Chad is interesting is that his brand of Chadery is the sine qua non of attractiveness. His traits are not only sufficient for attractiveness, they are necessary. While other Chads are more attractive than he, all other Chads must possess his brand of Chadery, while he need not possess the virtues of any other Chad.
Garage-band Chad is the lowest of the Chads, but he is the most quintessential, the most fundamental Chad, for garage-band Chad possesses Game, and without Game, there can be no Chad.
This is why it's important that garage band Chad is a miscalibration of female instinct. Iphone Bill exists because garage band Chad exists.
AFBB isn't a first-line female strategy. It's a fallback position, which exists because Cindy Lou Who's libido can't tell the difference between garage-band Chad and warrior Chad.
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holy fuck, this is a detailed description of chad if I've ever seen one.
I completely agree.
Also, quick question: why the fuck is everyone so bitter on trp against the "chad" archetype? It doesn't mean that Chad has to be reckless, retarded, a football player, and a high school drop out. It's just an archetype. Why is there so much darn bitterness? Shit like "don't be chad" "we're better than chad" "chad is a wreck", it sounds like jealousy to me. Chad can mean so many damn versions of alpha. Your thoughts?
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Dronelisk 8y ago
Yup, why are AAA game dev companies so shit? They're no longer ran by the betas who are actually interested in videogames. They pump out and rehash the same product every year (it's been 2 hours since 2016 and Ubisoft still hasn't made a new assassin's creed game) and appeal to the lowest common denominator because that gives then a lot of power, and they know people desires, so they exploit them to the point of destructiveness.
Why is steam so good? Cause it's ran by a beta (Gaben) who actually thinks there's some benefit to treating people nicely (steam will not survive 2 or 3 more years like this, they are already on the verge of red numbers)
rpkarma 8y ago
2014 saw a conservative estimate of $740 million profit, at a nearly 50% profit margin. What makes you think they're nearly in the red?
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How is Steam on the verge of red numbers?
[deleted] 8y ago
Lol, seriously. Why do people come here and spout unintelligible trash as fact?
skyisup 8y ago
They basically own a monopoly that automatically rakes in cash and requires little maintenance to work. Somehow this guy thinks they're close to losing money.
SW9876 8y ago
The Red Pill is based almost entirely in evolution IMO, yet people still think we are offensive. Boggles my mind.
PlanB_pedofile 8y ago
Many don't want to accept evolutionary reality. It goes against the feminist idealism.
It's amazing how dense people are. They can be spoon fed feces and will smile and say it's nutritional because that's what they've been told.
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J_AsapGem 8y ago
feminist and feminized men, simple as that. They bring down the very being they are craving to fuck or lock down
gg_s 8y ago
They bring down the unworthy and fuck the resilient, thus supporting the conclusion that feminism is nothing more than a massive shit test.
adr007 8y ago
People want to think they are above nature.
through_a_ways 8y ago
This is a red pill truth in itself.
Most people hate the idea that our emotions are largely controlled by things that "aren't us": external social stimuli, foods, substances created by gut bacteria, biologically active substances in cosmetics, etc. It robs them of control, and they hate that.
A look at boards like Futurology confirms this. People are enamored with biotech, because it gives them the hope of more control. Laughably implausible ideas like "uploading your memory into the cloud", or "wiring up your brain into a cyborg" are upvoted because of an emotional desire for these things to come true. Surgeons can't even transplant a brain, and scientists figured out why the common cold occurs last year.
And no, Moore's law only applies to electronics. The last 50 years has not brought about exponential advancements in preventing/curing disease. If anything, it has done the opposite (myopia, accelerated puberty, ADHD and other mental disorders, etc. have increased sharply).
The only thing I'll concede to biotech is that direct genetic manipulation could potentially be a true panacea. However, there is every reason to believe that such technology, once perfected, will not be made available to the public, or will be prohibitively expensive at best (think of the cost of a house, custom "good genes" will probably costs dozens of times that).
throwaway1643 8y ago
The technology is already here with Crispr-Cas9.
And there is already a debate on whether it should be used to edit the genes of human embroys.
Imagine a world where all parents can choose to design all their sons 6 ft+, and all their daughters to be healthy and attractive. Only the rich would be able to afford it, leading to an even bigger acceleration of social/economic stratification
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They do. 2000 years of "refined humanity" versus 700,000 years of hunter gatherer? Oh we don't have any of that caveman stuff left us in silyyyyyy.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
Most people don't want to belive we are hairless apes, and that we came from other species in our distant past. 65m years ago we were tree shrews, father back reptiles, beyond that fish. You can't get away from the foundations upon which you're built, no matter what you think.
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damn, that should be an actual darn quote.
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BluepillProfessor 8y ago
There is the Red Pill in a nutshell. It really isn't that hard after all.
through_a_ways 8y ago
Couldn't be further from the truth.
A paleolithic hunter is analogous to a modern day beta-drone engineer; a provider. Paleolithic societies were and still are not particularly masculine at all--the men were pretty much guaranteed sex, due to the egalitarianism and interdependence present in small groups.
This was amplified even moreso in cold climates. Since woman-friendly plant foods were not available, dependence on male hunting was even more important. More men also died, and the men culled the women, not the other way around. This is how blue eyes arose in paleolithic Europe, and persist today.
When agriculture came in from Asia and the Middle East was when stuff began to get interesting. The stability (sound familiar?) provided by agriculture allowed men to create better technologies, standing armies, advanced cultures, and most importantly, allowed women to unlock hypergamy. There's a reason Europe doesn't speak the indigenous European languages anymore.
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
You are talking function not physical presence looks and attitude. Women are attracted to providers just not sexually. The cave man Hunter may be a provider but he looked and acted rather different than the guys on the big bang theory.
You dont have to kill a mammoth but to get laid a lot you have to act like you could.
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through_a_ways 8y ago
Basque and Etruscan, among others. The Uralic languages also qualify.
My implication was that the patriarchal culture of the Indo-europeans dominated the matriarchal/egalitarian cultures of indigenous Europe.
Spatial ability is paramount for huntergatherers, and very high spatial ability has been observed in both the Inuit and the Aboriginal Australians, both of whom subsist on hunting (and are extremely distant from one another in every sense of the word).
Incidentally, there may also be an inverse relationship between spatial ability and patriarchality of culture.
There is also an inverse correlation between spatial ability and testosterone in men, and a direct correlation between verbal ability and testosterone in men. This is counter to "common knowledge", which is that spatial = man, and verbal = girl. In reality, there is specificity according to gender, with "unmanly" men being stronger in spatial, and "manly" women being stronger in spatial. "Manly" men are more verbal, and "feminine" women more verbal. This is also in agreement with racial differences in the spatial-verbal split, with the least masculinized races (east Asians) having the highest spatial ability, and the most masculinized races (west Africans) having the highest comparative verbal ability, and Caucasian-derived people falling in between.
Anecdotally, the smartest guys I've known always seemed somewhat sexually immature (though I wouldn't say feminine, simply juvenile--skinny, scant on facial hair, somewhat high pitched in voice, and with a preference for "cute" rather than "sexual" women), while the smartest girls I've known always looked rather masculine. Perhaps you could say that androgyny leads to spatial ability. Incidentally, spatial ability is a neotenous trait (universally declines with age, moreso than other cognitive abilities), and androgyny is a fundamentally neotenous trait as well.
The ASPM gene, associated with non-tonal languages, has origins in the Mideast and is dominant in western Eurasia (you can really just call this Caucasia). Tonal languages incorporate pitch differentials which change the meanings of words, non-tonal languages do not.
What's interesting is that verbal ability and non-tonality are fundamentally the same type of quality. Verbal ability allows one to write things down, so that he need not rely on his inherent ability to remember them. Non-tonality allows one to have a formalized system of communication, so that one need not rely on their inherent ability to differentiate tones. It's analogous to whistling vs. playing the flute. Whistling takes far more inherent skill, but it is far easier to get more effective results with the flute. Another good analogy is using an abacus vs. doing mental arithmetic.
I believe that verbal ability was selected for in settled agricultural populations, while spatial was selected in hunting populations. Pastoral populations seem problematic, but my guess is that they're a mix of the two, perhaps leaning verbal. The pastoralist lifestyle is certainly more spatially intensive than the settled agricultural one, but it's also less so than a huntergatherer one. Cellulose is a far more plentiful resource than game animals or ripe fruit, and it requires no effort to obtain once found. In addition, the ruminant animal acts as a sort of "instrument" for finding the resource--whereas men have to hunt game animals all on their own.
Another interesting quirk I've noticed is that broad-headed populations tend to have higher spatial ability, and long-headed populations more analytical/verbal ability. The English (and the northern fringes of France and Germany--essentially the Germanic population) are uniquely long-headed in Europe, much more so than the average central European. England is known for many accomplishments in devising systems of classification and "ways" to do things, but the more spatial accomplishments seem to come from Germany--compare German and English cars, for example. Long-headed Indians have few spatial accomplishments I can think of, but a great wealth of accomplishments in the verbal/analytical fields (decimal numerals, ancient calculus, etc.)
TL;DR long headed, hairy, higher testosterone, long limbed, patriarchal, verbally/logically proficient, spatially handicapped peoples dominated peoples with the opposite traits, at least in western Eurasia.
LoveLord1000 8y ago
Well I'm not convinced all men with more testorone are more verbal, but it certainly makes sense that a leader of a hunting group would have higher testosterone and higher verbal skills (to organise the team) than average.
It does seem as if testosterone is used in conjunction with other processes to channel men into different roles, and not in a simple linear manner.
Do you have any pointers for further reading on these subjects?
Dickwad 8y ago
Your theory seems to falter with west africans. Hunters with the highest testosterone of all races.
through_a_ways 8y ago
West Africans are not hunters, though. They've had agriculture for a few thousand years at least.
Also, a paleolithic lifestyle in a warm climate will tend to select higher testosterone individuals, because the women can fend for themselves with easily obtainable plant foods.
Eugenics2015 8y ago
This is completely incorrect. West Africans (bantus) were farmers not hunters.
You have to do more research before arguing with people
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Digital_Yar 8y ago
She's also overlooking an obvious education gap, the guys there spend 90% of their time into activities she can't understand. They are the top 1% of the planet in what they do, of course they have no game with a magazine columnist, it would be like dating someone who just came out of an African village, good luck impressing her with your Lamborghini, she doesn't even know what a car is.
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^^ Very good point. I still can't believe she had the audacity to mock a picture with Wozniak. STEVE WOZNIAK, ffs. -_-
JP_Whoregan 8y ago
Top comment:
OK, which one of you guys was this? Just kidding. I can't believe the oversized clitoris on this harlot. "I'm in the lion's den of men who are smart, inventive, and well off financially, but they're all losers because they can't tingle my NYC-spoilt vagina".
Every time I think the hamster wheel can't spin any faster, here comes a new level of warp drive.
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That top comment annoys me. It's the same thing every time, isn't it?
Women being women, and acting to their biological instincts.
Why blame women for acting like women? Why should they blame alpha males for acting like alpha males?
McLarenX 8y ago
She's not even hot enough to be demanding either. Maybe ONS worthy but there's no reason that a millionaire in their right mind would want to settle with her. She'd be very lucky to have an LTR with a mid six figure earning silicon valley type, which obviously isn't good for her. This girl would rather get pumped and dumped by finance guys living the fast life. Likely she's had 50 or more partners already.
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Imagine if we were able to link all the top posts in this thread to the Vouge comment section.
Emily wouldn't be able to drown away the sorrow with all the haggendaz in the world
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JP_Whoregan 8y ago
Explain. He put her in her place, told her that these a worthless harlot punching above her weight, and told her that her early 20's sluttiness isn't doing her any favors. He sprayed reality on her tits like a cum bath, and you're calling him a "nice guy"?
You taking an early dip into the New Year's champagne?
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JP_Whoregan 8y ago
You're missing the point: the men aren't the ones complaining. She is. The man in the comment isn't "mad" about anything. He's dressing down a cunt with logic and detail.
aiguo888 8y ago
Ok let me red pill you on reality bro:
Our primal instincts haven't suddenly died out with the technological advancements of the last 100 years.
Human evolution dates back a few million years.
A beta guy is not attractive because even if he has resources he wasn't able to protect them pre-modernity and mating with him would therefore most likely be detrimental to her.
Going for the highest possible alpha has always been a proven strategy.
People don't acquire resources by being a brainy beta in the jungle.
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thefisherman1961 8y ago
Absolutely the last thing I would do on an online dating app is post a picture of myself with a guy who has a higher SMV than me. Posing with Wozniak (a guy who has way more money and status than him) is pure stupidity. But betas are gonna beta.
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Lets suss this out.
For one; she's either got a high paying job or a clueless Beta doormat in her pocket. Either way, the "Resource" box is checked.
Which means the only male she needs is a big, strong bull of a man. You won't find those in Silicon Valley.
This effect will become more pronounced with time. The typical AF/BB system only works when men of both categories are accessible to women. Soon women will begin out-earning men en masse just as society begins to winnow out any sign of masculine behavior in male kids and teenages.
Which means women will be on a ruthless hunt for Alphas, and with their resouce needs addressed they will totally ignore any man with even moderate Beta tendencies. Emily Holt is merely the vanguard of this dynamic.
[deleted] 8y ago
Well yeah you give them all the scholarships, stomp out masculine behavior, and give them preferential hiring, they SHOULD be out earning men if they were even close to equal.
charlesbukowksi 8y ago
This is one of the best threads I've read in a while.
machimus 8y ago
You know there's a lot of posts about this chick just wanting a rich, ripped 6'5" lacrosse player to rip her a third asshole, but that is not the lesson here.
I've been around silicon valley, and the lesson is you wouldn't have much competition there. It's true, there are more guys than gals, but all you'd need to do is be better than average and you'd clean house. The guys have zero social skills and put zero effort into being fuckable.
[deleted] 8y ago
While Emily didnt "date" enough Wall Street Wolves, its a fair bet she was pumped and dumped by plenty of muscular Masters of the Universe.
She is writing a sob story that she thought it would be "easier" (i.e. better chance to secure commitment) outside the hypercompetitve Big Apple.
But alas, "Where did all the good men go?"®
Another ALPHA WIDOW.....nothing to see here.
Troll_Name 8y ago
bingo
Men are sold on the lie that sucking a woman's invisible dick will make her fall in love with you. Women are sold on the lie that being P&D'd by one hundred chads will add up to one of them marrying her and swearing off all other women.
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a-orzie 8y ago
lol. Bias.
You think Asian women are better than Western women you are dreaming.
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Why would you expect her to be attracted to some meek little nerd? She just wants one who's even the slightest bit interesting and appealing, can't really blame her.
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Hrodrik 8y ago
And this is that average (at best) looking girl. How entitled can these bitches get?
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jb_trp 8y ago
The sad part is she's the epitome of a 5 (about as average as they come, fuckable with a little makeup). She's hitting the wall and if she puts on any weight it's all downhill from there. Don't worry, once she's in her mid-30's her hamster will kick into overdrive: Men are just threatened by a strong, independent woman!
crazysiberian 8y ago
According to LinkedIn, she got her B.S. in 2000. If she was 22 at the time, then she's 38 now. So she's already post-wall.
alveoli1 8y ago
Thats not suprising. Usually these bloggers love the put their photo up. Especially writing for a fashion mag. Not seeing her photo on the blog was a dead giveaway.
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She's not a 5. The bar is entirely too low for her to be a 5. In a world where 2/3 of women are noticeably overweight, she's above average by default.
She's Plain Jane in every way. In the 1950s, when being pudgy wasn't excused as "having curves" she'd be a 5. In today's world being "not ugly" is good enough to be above average. Hard 6. I feel confident in saying most guys here would fuck her as long as there was minimal effort involved. That makes her a 6. A lot of guys on here would call her a 7, maybe even a delusional 8 in their FRs.
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Based on that pic she's an easy 6. Most people on the Internet's ratings are either 2-3 points too high (chicks they are banging/want to bang) or way too unfairly low because they consider her a bitchy feminist or whatever. Considering she's 38 and comparing her to other chicks her age she's even a little better.
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Internet ratings follow a few simple rules. The most objective environment is seeing a woman you don't know on the street. If it's based on a pic or a set of pics then most people rate her 1-2 points lower. If they know her in real life, and they're claiming they want to bang her, she becomes a 6 minimum automatically and usually jumps 1 point from reality if she is better than that. If they know her in real life and have frequent (relatively positive) contact with her, they rate her 1-2 points higher. If they dislike her, she loses 1-2 points automatically.
This is a prime example. Any other thread we'd happily call her a 6, especially for a woman her age, but since she's clearly shown her bitchy side, guys here are showing theirs.
korben_manzarek 8y ago
A 5? How would you rate Pam from The Office, because the girl from the article looks like a much prettier version of her, to me at least.
Luckyluke23 8y ago
I didn't see her picture till i read your comment...
man.... you got it dead on
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americanmook 8y ago
Thats a 5? Out of what, 15?
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Personality alone drops her down quite a bit. She's a freelance lifestyle and fashion advice writer.
Some digging highlights the fact that she left Vogue months ago to pursue some new Bay Area opportunities. Clearly those haven't panned out, as she's back to freelance scribblings for the rag that is Vogue.
Honestly, who actually reads this trash? Not anyone with a reasonable frame of intelligence, that's my guess. I certainly feel stupider for having taken the bait.
SirNemesis 8y ago
That isn't how it works bruh.
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epixs 8y ago
NYE birthday ? Looks like someones gonna be beyond fucked up tonight lol
lrdByron 8y ago
cake day is the anniversary of when you joined reddit, not your actual birthday. :)
epixs 8y ago
u learn something new everyday...thanks
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mods....take this guy out....kill him.....sic him......demons, suck his life out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUo8tHjpMuo
genieindustriel 8y ago
dude I spit my coffee over this line
through_a_ways 8y ago
You're wrong here, Woz carries HUGE status. This chick simply isn't into tech. "Nerd" culture is huge right now, and the more perceptive girls on that bandwagon would've been far more appreciative of the things she mentioned. In fact, she probably heard about SiValley's good pickings from one of these girls, while being ignorant of the tech world herself; after all, she writes for Vogue.
The iphone guy is just a total aspie. Instead of that bland, awkwardly punctuated logical talk, he could've said something along the lines of "oh, and btw, I invented the iphone. No, not joking." He had the golden goose, and still managed to fuck it up.
VasiliyZaitzev 8y ago
Why would she possibly be surprised to discover that Tech Central is full of 'spergs?
mugatucrazypills 8y ago
I invented the Piano Necktie.
Emily is not worthy to sniff my salted caramel smegma latte.
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There are PLENTY of alpha males in Silicon Valley, Cupertino, and Apple. She herself have trouble meeting them, as they are all busy plowing through their own and their boss' HB9 exec admins.
Claude_Reborn 8y ago
She is out there farming for the unicorn which is Rich, Successful Alpha. She couldn't do it in NY because she is a 5 at best, and there are literally thousands of hot, younger women streaming into NY every week looking for the same thing.
She figured she'd head out to Silicon Valley, and try and find herself a Jobs or a Zuckerberg because she has this idea in her head that rich nerds will be falling at her feet because she has a vagina and thinks she is a 10.
As someone who as worked in the STEM world for many years, what it comes down to is a mixture of a number of factors.
The rates of Autism Spectrum are amazingly high in the Programming / Tech world. Male ASD's are naturally drawn to that world because they excel at the logic and structure of it, and are capable of amazing feats of logic. I'm doing Electrical Engineering and we have a few ASD guys in my stream, and while they can be annoying and awkward at times, they do AMAZING work.
The work/life balance in Silicon Valley is heavily on the WORK side of the scale. People there are working 60-80 hrs weeks, and really don't have the time to throw at women who expect them to jump through hoops. Between work, Sleep eating.. you really don't have the time for female shenanigans
So in summary, she is massively over estimating her value, assuming that all the guys there are thirsty nerds who will throw themselves at her feet.
hugeveinycock 8y ago
This made me laugh because of how ridiculous a statement it is, then I realized it's 100% true. What a dumb broad.
diFFzee 8y ago
Wrong on two counts
I work 60 hour plus weeks in NYC, same as I did in SV. Social life is 100 times better. A lot of SV is actually antisocial, in NYC you go to a bar in the village and work's over, social mode is on all around.
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thepesterman 8y ago
I heard that San Francisco was like the gay capital of America or something, perhaps this has had an affect on the mentality of the male population or is a result of a concentration of betas...
Zachar1a 8y ago
Nah, not anymore. That was back when gays were still kept in the closet. They would come to SF just to live in the open. Now they can just do that wherever they happen to be, they don't have to move anymore. It's not like they reproduce, usually.
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reggieray 8y ago
Video of author:
http://video.vogue.com/watch/from-the-vogue-closet-playfully-polished-in-a-giulietta-dress
Limekill 8y ago
Oh jesus....
"Playing dress-up has never been so fun. Emily Holt, Fashion News Editor at Vogue, may be a kid at heart but her playfully polished dress by Giulietta and bag by Myriam Schaefer tells a completely different story"
What story? She ain't going to get any better at being a 4.5?
hugeveinycock 8y ago
Uh, yeah. Sorry, but not attractive at all.
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0io- 8y ago
Why should we believe she's 26? Because she says so?
scook4prez 8y ago
Can confirm this. I live in mountain view, where Google is located and frequently go downtown. Alphas are few and far between here. Just plated a girl here who keeps telling me how unique I am here because I constantly work out and am in good shape. It doesn't take much to be in the top 20% here.
diFFzee 8y ago
I am a dude, did the reverse of what she did (after college started a company in Silicon Valley, when I sold it moved to NYC to start another) and can confirm SV is insanely boring to socialize/date in. Dudes are meek. Mostly because the majority of the dudes were the awkward highschool kid that's super smart, makes good money but never really figured out how to grow out of being the awkward kid, never actually figured out how to behave around women or that there's more than one woman in the world. I used to hang out more with the finance dudes from the VC firms rather than with coders/engineers etc, socializing with the techies was a snoozefest, even though our "interests" were theoretically more aligned. The VC dudes lived way better without necessarily making way more money.
And don't get me started on the female dating pool.
NYC is the fucking Mecca of casual dating, after NYC I can see how SV would seem like boring suburbia.
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YoungRedOne 8y ago
Slightly pre-wall, bangable with makeup...agreed.
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dr_warlock 8y ago
Woman: "I exist damnit. I exist! Gimme gimme gimme!"
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grewapair 8y ago
Are you kidding. There are almost no women in Silicon Valley.
Take that woman and add 60 lbs and she'd have men lining up. I'm serious.
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That "lady" is about to hit the wall "harder" than she already has! You can tell by her hips thats she's going to get fat in her 30s, she gunna be a tank!
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Haha, what a worthless person, she looks down on people who are actually making the world a better place. She'll never accomplish anything notable in her life.
CptFizz 8y ago
Jesus, she's borderline retarded. And I don't mean that as a joke. Look at her, she has pretty much all symptoms of FASD (fetal alcohol spectrum disorder) http://www.aafp.org/afp/2005/0715/p279.html
Mjazz3 8y ago
She actually looks a bit nerdy too.
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lawr11 8y ago
This has been my life this holiday season, my parents live in SF and we went to LA for a few days.
So uncanny.
fuckinurmadridista 8y ago
Who cares, pondering data structures and algorithms is better than sex. I'll take a 2 hour blowjob though tyvm
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JP_Whoregan 8y ago
This is a good crosspost for /r/geoTRP.
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She is not aging all the well so it's lol that she's so insufferable and picky
Viscart 8y ago
this article was published last year. Did you just find it?
LegendaryContent 8y ago
She's like average looking at best.
rashnull 8y ago
So on point! Nothing like a woman who is intoxicated by your cocktail, thanks you for it, and begs for more out of pure, adultrated, arousal and desire! Had this happen to me last week after at least 6 months of monking around and I must say, it's very addictive! HB6 at best, but there's nothing like it!
St_OP_to_u_chin_me 8y ago
If anyone could point me to a good planning position in Seattle that would be greaaat. Bring some manlyness to the NW, without the redneck attitude.
Luckyluke23 8y ago
great post man, also makes me pissed i gave up it to become an accountant ( i love moving money around ;) )
when you say outward projected status, do you mean NOT the status you already have, but the status you will obtain in the future?
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Ironically someone who worked on the original Iphone is a pretty big deal.
wattwatty 8y ago
No offense to the OP, but many posts like this often pick the most damning tidbits to highlight. That's somewhat true here, but only somewhat. Even when she's trying to sound like a rational human being, it comes out... arrogant beyond belief. This is one ugly-ass 26-year-old, both inside and out.
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Toxicbutt 8y ago
Emily's SMV<=butt fucking ugly That's her problem right there.
obama_loves_nsa 8y ago
Man I thought I was alone thinking that
She's a 4/10 tops in that photo. And I'm assuming that's a GOOD photo of her. So she's probably a 2/10 IRL
Also she looks 46 not 26. wtf
chances_are_ur_a_fag 8y ago
exactly. googled her and she's not much to look at at all
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Emily Harlot is definitely not hot enough to fuck a muscular linebacker in her college years, but still she has fucked them. Think of how easy it is for women out there.
red-pill-man 8y ago
She's 26? She looks 36 and might be a HB6 tops.
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They mean nothing to a woman's sexual response, AKA tingles. I invented the iPhone is try-hard beta talk, in the context of picking up a woman. Look what a provider I am. Fucking yawn, dry panties, next.
StotheGG 8y ago
The more I read this forum the more I agree with the similarities of men and women. In a sense, why would a man want to settle for some ugly, fat, unattractive cow when he could get a young, hot, sexy bitch. She's looking for what all men are looking for. Now, a lot of unattractive men get made at the woman for being HONEST about her sexual desires...but are they different from what all the men inherently and honestly desire? I don't think so. Even if that ugly, fat bitch were a great person on the inside. Please.
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DodgedAFew 8y ago
That's not true, it's more about accomplishments - but still fails. If inventing new technology was associated with immediate threat to health and life then it would be considered more attractive: "I test new planes" is better than "I design new planes".
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DRMMR76 8y ago
True. And most astronauts have multiple Doctorates in hard sciences. But it's not the diploma(s) on the wall that generate tingles, and it never has been.
nyrp 8y ago
It also says, "Despite inventing the iPhone, I'm hunting for affection and respect on Tinder so I must not know how to make use of my skills"
DRMMR76 8y ago
Therein lies one of the fundamental challenges in online dating. Women feel (and are usually right) that the fact the man is on there in the first place is an automatic disqualifier. Her ideal man wouldn't be on Tinder or POF in the first place. This predisposes her from the onset to making him "prove" he's better. If preselection through social proof automatically generates a baseline of tingles, using online dating has the opposite effect.
Joseph_the_Carpenter 8y ago
I think that's why despite /u/omlala saying it's an uphill battle, the way to overcome it is to manuever yourself so you care less than the girl, who is solely driven by physical appearance and no social proofing online. Getting her to think you care less about her than she does about your body can be tough, but doable.
RedPillDad 8y ago
Expectation of tingles is modern woman's dilemma. She won't choose a guy with with a solid career path if he's a social liability. As Bill Burr said, she wants the hot guy already in the winner's circle. She'll stand at the finish line saying, "I'll suck your dick."
The big problem with tingle chasers is that no relationship will be sustainable.
mugatucrazypills 8y ago
I've never been predisposed to MGTOW, but lately reading these dispatches from front lines of the gold digging whore epidemic I'm leaning towards an off-grid cabin in Montana.
The underlying thread with the bitches: It's never enough. I know guys with 5,50, and 500 million in net worth. 5 minutes with the WAG (or the husband) at dinner party and you're hearing: complaints from her about how she needs more stuff/status.
I don't even know where to place this WAG-whore philiosophy on the spectrum strategically. I mean, when you know your husband makes say 5 or 10 times what mugatu does, and you're telling me how much he sucks as a provider because he didn't get the artisanially caught squid flown in for the calimari at the party ?
It's more off-putting than a woman being outright ugly. Like some chick coming up to you and explaining (my vagina is a bottomless leathery stretched stinking hole that sucks cash in). <retch>
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as much as I like sex, sometimes I think the effort we put out to get it is not worth it, like at all lol
grewapair 8y ago
If your time is particularly valuable, it's really not worth it.
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no shit. Do your shit for yourself (looking good, eating right, working out because it makes you feel fucking great and promoted easier) and pick up whatever comes with ease. Any investment in pussy is a poor man's tale and will keep you a nobody.
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no shit. Do your shit for yourself (looking good, eating right, working out because it makes you feel fucking great and promoted easier) and pick up whatever comes with ease. Any investment in pussy is a poor man's tale and will keep you a nobody.
Kingoffistycuffs 8y ago
"my vagina is a bottomless leathery stretched stinking hole that sucks cash in). <retch>" this is literally the funniest thing I've read all year. Thank you very much for putting this up.
marlybarrow 8y ago
How old was the year when you typed that?
StotheGG 8y ago
Its about keeping a hoe in check. The problem is that this guy has given too much too easily. He should only give enough for her to ask for more and to get more she's got to WORK FOR MORE.
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PlanB_pedofile 8y ago
But many men will think that a loose woman is someone to "wife up".
This is why boys need to be taught that sluts are only good for one thing and that is sex, and need to quality test a gal if interested in any form of commitment.
Grimalkine 8y ago
As my old Mum used to say "Two types of Women, them you marry and them you practice on"
Dickwad 8y ago
Is your mum a 19th century cockney?
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PlanB_pedofile 8y ago
The unemployed man who's hobby is the drums and plays in bars provides more alpha tingles.
Women are not interested in the provider these days because they can easily provide for themselves.
It's comical that there was an era where women looked at a man and evaluated him based upon his fortune and productivity. Now it's back to caveman where women want dick.
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through_a_ways 8y ago
Not at all. Status manifests itself in many ways.
An unemployed drummer could not have been considered high status many centuries ago. He can be today, because we've largely eliminated the natural constraints of our survival (at least for the time being). A "dysgenic" sphere of status-seeking (punk subculture, hippies, etc.) can survive, because we mandate that everyone in our society survives.
Cavemen times weren't a hypergamy fest, they were the opposite. Everyone depended far more on each other, and hunter groups are considered to be the most egalitarian forms of human societies to have ever existed. When men are more necessary, their availability of sex increases. Hypergamy was at its lowest 30,000 years ago.
When grains and milk came to Europe 4000 years ago was when hypergamy was unlocked. Societies that came up with social mores to artificially restrict womens' hypergamy were the ones that were more successful in the neolithic, and they conquered others and spread their gyno-restrictive culture, in a sort of feedback loop of success.
The era where "women looked at a man and evaluated him based upon his fortune and productivity" have been long gone, for anywhere from 4000 - 10,000 years, depending on what part of the world you look at. It's just that the artificial systems that kept stability's demons in check were undone
PlanB_pedofile 8y ago
I remember reading pride and prejudice where the woman was seeking to marry and yet the man she rejected, she ended up choosing.
The man in question? First off he's a sexist. Views women like dogs, and knows he has a pick of a group. Quite the asshole and snob. And of course filthy rich making 7 figures a year by today's standards. The whole novel is her back and forth with him. There was even a small part where some beta lad who had all her favorite "nice guy" qualities but she couldn't see herself with him. So in true female form. Her hamster allowed her to fall in love with the sexist asshole millionaire.
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You're not saying that Mr. Collins was the beta lad, right? Lizzy despised him; he was annoying and couldn't think for himself without consulting Lady Catherine de Bourgh. She hated him from the start and all of his qualities too. Then there was Mr. Wickham, but he was no beta.
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PantsonFire1234 8y ago
This is something that's slowly starting to trickle down reading these reports. There's a whole bottom market full of these types of betas (and female land whales).
Allot of guys reading here might start to doubt themselves reading all the bad scenario's men find themselves in. And yes it could happen to everyone, even chad. Most guys over here are way off the sad image that got described in the above post.
denart4 8y ago
It is really depressing to see these geniuses being taken out of the gene pool because women want tingles they get from some caveman alpha.
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No don't worry, some of them will be used for beta bucks and married and have children. Then while he's away at work on the next google successor she will be blowing and eagerly swallowing Chad the tennis instructor.
shineoneme 8y ago
This. This is how humanity is going to shit. The intellectuals that should carry our civilization forward are being weeded out by feminism.
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Limekill 8y ago
Its actually getting railed by the homeless.
We all wish I was joking.
I_Am_My_Own_God 8y ago
Stop giving a fuck about what women think. Be the best man you can be in comparison to other man and you will live a much happier life.
Skedoolie 8y ago
I think these guys are just shy, weird and don't know how to interact with women. Low testosterone I'm sure...
FLFTW16 8y ago
In the very next paragraph:
This bitch isn't even internally consistent. She has absolutely nothing to offer but is critical of what men have or don't have to offer. She is a "fashion writer" in other words she has accomplished nothing in her life and she is a complete and total failure. Her greatest sin, however, is that she is not attractive. She should learn how to wear makeup and cultivate a feminine personality if she wants a man to invest his time and resources into her.
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I know I should understand what being told you're a special snowflake does to someone if they hear it their whole lives, but the results still shock me.
"He helped invent the iPhone, I guess that's supposed to be impressive?"
You're a 5 out of 10 of one of two genders, THAT'S supposed to be impressive?!
dr_warlock 8y ago
Betas can and do attract women, but there's a semantic distinction that needs to be made. Attraction =\= arousal. Arousal is a sub category of attraction, or to put it another way, a specific form of attraction. Attraction means to be drawn to with purpose. It is this purpose that distinguishes attraction from arousal. Does she want comfort or does she desire spunk?
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The purpose of a beta is to be leeched upon, and utilized for ulterior motives including but not limited to emotional cushioning, a safety net, and as a biomechanical atm machine. Women can love their betas, but it solely means the safety and emotional comfort she feels in his prescence. It is lacking desire.
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Arousal on the other hand is attraction, but purely sexual. If she finds you arousing, she is drawn with the purpose of a direct seminal deposit. Contrary to popular belief, a woman's true love is not in verbal declaration, hand holding, dates, marriage, or shared housing, but in her sex. That is her most valuable asset.
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Attraction and arousal can coexist, but the difference must be known. Your gut knows. I am of the belief that if a woman does not desire me, none of her other feelings matter and any further association shall not take place. A womans touch and scent can be very satisfying, but only as a compliment to sex.
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The answer is to do the best with what you got to be the best that you can be, then find a woman that digs it.
edit: Choose Your Brand of Alpha by GayLubeOil. Sidebar material.
StotheGG 8y ago
If she does not want to SUCK YOUR DICK she DOES NOT WANT YOU. Period. Not willing. Not agree to. But actually fucking suck on it with true hunger. That's the ultimate test of arousal imo.
hugeveinycock 8y ago
I had a side girl who was in a committed relationship. We'd hang out once a month and she'd always suck my dick; but never let me fuck.
I wanted to fuck her so bad just because I couldn't.
Conversely, if her an I only fucked, and she told me she'd never suck my dick, I can guarantee that I'd start obsessing about her sucking my dick.
NaughtyFred 8y ago
I am now of the same belief.
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"The answer is to do the best with what you got to be the best that you can be, then find a woman that digs it."
Nailed it. Don't change who you are to attract women. Just be the best possible version of yourself. If you're a nerd - be the Alpha Uber Nerd. If you're a meathhead - be the Alpha Uber Meathead.
But don't change your essence - b/c that's inborn : where your Mojo & Will originally arises.
EdmondDaunts 8y ago
It's much better being a strong social adept nerd than just a nerd. Knowing science and engineering and having them as a core part of your life is not enough. It's mental stuff. You also need physical presence.
They haven't invented an app or derived an equation for that yet.
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not to rain on the parade, but anyone that actually says "i invented the iphone" is a total douche and his team thinks he's a douche and the 50 other teams that worked on the project think he's a douche. if you've ever worked on a big project for a big company you know that you are replaceable and your contribution is negligible. on almost every team there is "the guy" that every one knows is the stud. then there is "that guy" who is a dipshit that overvalues every thing he does and everyone hates.
DRMMR76 8y ago
That guy could really use a strong dose of Red Pills. The thing is, that's an actual accomplishment that may have some real value in the dating game with the right female circles if the man knew how to leverage it right. He's got a fame-generating accomplishment that puts him a cut above a lot of guys. But instead of wearing it with a non-chalant pride and having a "of course I invented the iPhone, I'm a fucking tech god. Changing the world for billions of people is a side hobby of mine" attitude, he is bowing on one knee in front of her and holding up this accomplishment in a "see what a effective servant I can be for you Your Highness?" act of betaness.
0io- 8y ago
One of the PUA guys has a maxim along the lines that "all jobs are exciting high-status jobs". So if you work on a help desk, it's "Have you heard of the internet? He's the man who makes that work."
Your post is spot on.
Tie5o11 8y ago
With that said, the guys message was completely off- the guy is most likely autistic or has zero social skills. I actually see where she is coming from in this case.
Mofocheez 8y ago
But that's the entire point.
Sure, the guy may not have any social proof or any ability to lead a social situation, but the rest of his life sounds pretty well accomplished otherwise.
It's not about you or what you've done. It's about her and how what you've done makes her look.
Sending your resume on a dating site is an easy way to say "I don't know how to navigate social situations" which ultimately doesn't help her own image, which is why she is turned off.
Seeing as she's single and unhappy, she doesn't really have the power to turn down these men. She thinks she does, but that's why she's single and unhappy. Regardless of the autistic nature of the posts. She can't land a Chad and she doesn't know why.
Tie5o11 8y ago
Its not about her. Its about him- and his inability to even get to a 2/10 on the "social IQ" scale.
Mofocheez 8y ago
Well, it's about both. His lack of social IQ is what drives her away regardless of anything else he has done in his life.
She's unable to find a partner at all which more so indicates a problem with her.
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foldpak111 8y ago
Women have unrealistic expectations of men.
user_none 8y ago
Eh, send her my way. I'll show her proper Texan hospitality in the bay area.
OP, your TL;DR is spot on. The boys, and I use that word purposefully, are very much beta faggot hipsters, or total dweebs. Masculine men here are sorely lacking.
ColdEiric 8y ago
She is boring. Neither of these nerds like her. They might be taught to treat her, as they've been told to. But nobody likes her, nobody treats more than 'they're supposed to'. This girl is looking for someone to lust for her, but technology is more interesting than she is.
Raiden2 8y ago
Exactly the same situation in Seattle. Make eye contact and have some muscle and you're instantly the best option in most rooms you'll find yourself in.
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The_Red_Paw 8y ago
Everyone here is a passive aggressive twatknocker. Women and men.
Source: Lived in Seattle since '91, grew up back East where everyone is aggressive/aggressive but at least you know where you stand.
sinecho 8y ago
26?
That's passed 26 a long time ago.
Jasko1111 8y ago
they focus on making better software that will change world.. not on finding best partner, now its not important to have big muscles and to reproduce all day long.. that is past. just imagine world without that guys that make software and technology
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theoctopuss 8y ago
He doesn't even need the interest in technology, all he needs is the glasses.
When girls want a nerd, they're thinking about a Clark Kent type. The problem is that they think Superman is hiding under the glasses, that all they need to do is "set him straight" and a gorgeous hunk will appear.
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Gelu_sf 8y ago
The only guys that she will accept to fuck are the CEO/CFO dudes in Silicon Valley. And by CEOs I don't mean the genius nerd, but the Winklevoss types.
LegElbow 8y ago
Just saw her pic. She's 26, nothing special, and fast reaching the wall. Hopefully she humbles herself sooner than later or it will be forced upon her.
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Why should she? There are apparently tons of beta providers with lots of money she's now aware of to take care of her when she hits that wall.
crazysiberian 8y ago
I don't think she's 26. According to LinkedIn, she got her B.S. in 2000. If she was 22 at the time, then she's 38 now. So she's already post-wall.
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alltrueism 8y ago
I can't believe she's 26. Her face reads like she already lost her soul to having a kid.
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26 going on 40. Just fucking lol @ this damaged, average-looking woman thinking so highly of herself and believing that she could ever net a handsome, successful alpha male.
That's what happens when young women are permitted to run wild and drunken Chads have no standards.
0io- 8y ago
I'd believe 46 before 26. She probably thinks she can get away with improving her marketability by taking 10 or 15 years off her age for people who google her.
MordorsFinest 8y ago
Reading these articles just makes me hate women
hugeveinycock 8y ago
I wouldn't say hate, but extreme disappointment is pretty spot on.
As I got older and observed/experienced more and more women, both sexually and otherwise, the disappointment chasm widens between the female gender and myself; and I've essentially written off the possibility of ever being married.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
Back in the 1990's ("the good old days" for me... a 54 year old) during the dot.coms in San Francisco it was a huge, huge, party scene.
Money was being thrown left and right at these wild dot.com parties.
I had grown up in an upscale suburb nearby with a swimming pool and hot tub (parents house of course) where I used to have huge parties at night that were sometimes graced with naked women... yes... nude hot tub parties and lot's of booze and various illegal drugs. Fun times.
So when I hit the dot.coms it was really easy for me to party because I literally had "practice" and besides we we're the code cowboys back at that time before things went corporate and dull. That first wave of America programmers were all coming from consulting backgrounds, so we were used to playing social Games.
Once the H1-B's started bringing in the Indian programmers the situation began to change and got more and more nerdy. It's like we got replaced by beta slaves.
Then the dot.coms ended in 2001.
Then the 911 Mystery happened. (to cover all the scandals and redirect blame to an external fear)
So I think the whole image of the high tech professional is now very different.
civ_ 8y ago
Yes, but you're kinda remembering it wrong.
Biz folks have always had the same attitude towards nerds. It's always been easy to differentiate. Look up some of the early group photos of microsoft, apple etc.
What's different though, was the whole hippie (drugs, lsd, etc.) culture back then that brought all the women. And then there was the homosexual awakening that was at its heights around SF.
WTF is this?
I'm betting its the whole drug ban/fear campaigns of the 2000s that's driven all the women away and amped up the beta levels. Thankfully though, the drugs are coming back.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
Actually the homosexuals sometimes were annoyed that the focus was on this whole dot.com mania and not the anal fucking.
PlanB_pedofile 8y ago
Women come for the cocain, not the money.
DONT_reply_with_THIS 8y ago
Sounds like it was the time to be alive! Would love to read more stories on what it was like during the 90s. Also, care to expand on the 911 thing?
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
The 1990's were so optimistic as to be insane that way. These days the general mood is depressed and sort of waiting for things to collapse, but in the 1990's no one could "steal my sunshine":
Len - Steal My Sunshine - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1fzJ_AYajA
...it hints at it all ending.
As for the 911 Mystery there is a large skyscraper right now fully engulfed in flames in Dubai... will it collapse into dust tonight?
BRENDORVEGAS 8y ago
Holy shit...that song brought back some deep 90's memories.
8n0n 8y ago
Concrete with steel tubing construction materials according to another ridiculed reddit sub. Different ball game.
LionLegacy 8y ago
Upvoted for dope AF Len song
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im told sunshine meant acid
mugatucrazypills 8y ago
I fucking hope so. Dubai as a city is like one of these women. It's the kim kardashian of cities. All about status, posturing, glitter, tacky displays of wealth and consumption, built on slavery, abuse, coercion and violence. Many women actually seem to prefer dynastic or "captured" wealth on the arab-prince model to earned or invented wealth. Alpha genes I suppose.
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Do women still have to wear the hijab/ trash bags over there? Also, alcohol is against the law, rite?
flat6turbo 8y ago
none of that shit applies to foreigners and you can drink in licensed establishments like hotels and high end bars i.e. expensive ass places that grease local palms.
just don't get drunk, wander around, and do illegal shit. that will not end well.
it's basically muslim singapore.
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foldpak111 8y ago
Fuck Dubai. It would do the global economy good if that entire city burned.
PlanB_pedofile 8y ago
That city is a deck of cards. Only 1 death from this fire is probably because the hotel is empty.
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foldpak111 8y ago
The main goal of Dubai is to basically peacock."Look at us, we have bigger cocks than you."
Limekill 8y ago
Except when oil will probably never go above $60.... Thanks Tar sands.
foldpak111 8y ago
Don't even get me started on the price of oil
clint_bronson 8y ago
Okay seriously, 9/11 was an inside job? The Dubai skyscraper won't turn into dust because there won't be any demolition charges exploded? I really don't know what you're trying to say here.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
Normally the Laws of Physics apply the same everywhere.
So if a building in Dubai suffers significant fire damage (5x more than the Building 7 of the 911 Mystery) and it doesn't fall at the rate of gravity into dust then there are two sets of physics at play.
Observe facts.
clint_bronson 8y ago
This isn't so much about physics but engineering. Your theory has been thoroughly debunked, not that that will change your opinion on the matter as 911 truthism is a religion with its own dogmas.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
Follow the evidence.
Take emotion out of the equation.
I was a "true believer" in Bush after 911 and voted for him in 2004. It was only after discovering the evidence of Building 7 and all the other monetary scandals that were going on in the background that it became a mystery.
So I changed my mind.
What was once a Sacred Remembrance... is now a 911 Mystery.
...really all I did was move from "certainty" to "uncertainty".
Technically I became less dogmatic.
And this is healthy too... we tend to accept things too easily, so it's wise to keep things a mystery if the evidence is suspicious.
It's even showing up in creative art works:
I, pet goat II - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id6nCa_OTEM
...very interesting stuff.
clint_bronson 8y ago
I agree with everything you say, but the overwhelming evidence that i was presented with is that 911 "inside job" or any other version of the truth is less credible than the one presented to us.
Conspiracy theories is something as american as the american pie. Every major event in the US history is theme of numerous theories, and most are nothing more than pure entertainment, something the US excels at creating.
Questioning such events is important and should be done, but just because the version we get is less magical or entertaining or because we can't comprehend it doesn't make it false or a lie.
People who usually believe and delve in the conspiracy theories are most of the times looking for an explanation for their own shortcomings, they seek to blame the "invisible hand" or the "big brother" and wash away their hands from their own responsibility. You apparently did or do well in your life and this might not be your case, but is something to take into account.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
You do know about the Gulf of Tonkin?
The Reichstag Fire?
I personally was involved with Enron and worked with one of the guys that set up the offshore accounts in order to hide the conspiracy.
The reason I know these things really happen is I've been close enough to see it.
If you are a young kid trying to figure it out you will likely just accept the Sacred Ritual of 911 and not think any further.
crackalot 8y ago
Anything is possible. In the case of 9/11, at least, there are a lot of inconsistencies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98
PlanB_pedofile 8y ago
Well that dubai building is only on fire. If we maybe ram an aircraft into it (one that weighs about 7 city buses) at 300mph, then maybe we might see dust.
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JungleFly 8y ago
Women should all create a fake male profile of a "hottie" and a "nottie", then see what happens. Put the same shit in for the rest of the profile just different pictures. Her "dream man" just with different pictures. I did it and swiped everything. "Hottie" matching left and right, "nottie" got zero hits... Zero! I gave them a good job, house, and all that shit. Granted this was for 2 weeks bored as fuck, but zero? As a 5'10 "middie" in his mid 30s I get 5-10 matches a week doing hefty amounts of swiping, with maybe 3-5 responses and 1 or 2 actual dates. Which means I might get laid every other week if I can keep one around long enough.
This chick has no clue how Tinder works. She got the betas because she's shuffled to the back of the deck for the Alphas. There's been much better articles here that prove it. She wants the nerdy geek with glasses - whose a fucking 10, in his late 20s, slaying chicks left and right, and pulling $200k a year as a programmer. She ends up with the pasty nerd who can't believe this Tinder thing finally worked. The programmer has his pick, so obviously he's picking the female equivalent; a slut to his man-whore pulling $200k a year working for the competition. She does not belong in that world, and she's pissed because her entitlement means shit.
I know a dude whose 6'3, 190lbs, fit a fuck and shy as hell. He matches with 9s/10s all day but scores maybe 1 or 2 dates from that. They just want validation of a beef-stick swiping them. Now 7s/8s he's banging all day and night. He doesn't even have to say anything. They ALWAYS message first. One time he let me say something; "Fuck?" the answer was "Obviously..."
epixs 8y ago
can confirm. I started tinder this winterbreak, got 100+ matches in a week but very little have actually followed through. Alot of these girls just want validation, however some are dtf.
Still have not been able to bang 7/8's day and night tho lol, most of the girls Im currently smashin are from my bouncing job. I honestly think tinder leads very little to smashes, maybe Im doing somethign wrong.
So far following this guide and havnt had many bangs from it...maybe it will get better since its the holidays rn .
JungleFly 8y ago
I don't think so tbh. Tinder is one of those things chicks use for validation for the most part I'm sure of it, with only a few actually looking to just screw. Unless you are that 1-in-1000 it's not going to happen like people make it out to be (different chick every night). In the past month I've had my hair stylist 10+ years younger than me ask me to her Christmas party (It was an ugly sweater party and she had a 'sexy outfit'), 3 passes by co-workers, some chick in line at Walmart basically beg me to screw her (I was buying OJ at McDonalds since the Anytime Fitness vending machine was broken which apparently drives rednecks crazy for whatever reason and she flat out said I'd look good naked in her bed drinking juice???), and a friend of my sister eye fuck me all evening and rub against me on Christmas Eve. Those were all no-go's for me (don't shit in your own bed, don't shit where you eat, don't stick it in crazy, and don't play with a chick who can cut your ears off). Plenty of other random hookups though. Again that's just December. I almost always have one or two plates any given week if I play my cards right. Might be the same two chicks for months on end, but it's still sex. Again I'm not player, never was just don't have the genetics for it. I make up for it with hard work, both financially and at the gym, but I'll never be a rich Chad. But my RL sexing is way higher than my Tinder sexing, and higher quality too.
This month has been crazy heavy on Tinder, chicks are thirsty as hell and I've had dozens of matches last week alone (probably due to travel to a bigger market). But none of them follow through. I don't read the profile, just swipe anything with a cute face and 2-3% it's an instant match with another 4 or 5 matches a few hours later. So I'd say I'm in the bottom 10-20% of what chicks swipe, which puts me in the top 20% of all male Tinder profiles (seriously I've seen them do it, doesn't matter if she's a <5 she only swipes 8 and up with an occasion 7 if he has a good job). Could be me, but again even the guys I know who have a china cabinet of rotating plates don't get laid nearly as much from Tinder as they do from random hookups pretty much anywhere. These are the guys who every woman swipes. The example I used above was about a shy guy. When he swipes right, it's a 50-50 crap shoot that there's an immediate match. And then he'll match a few days later when she finally sees his profile, which will always be on the top of the deck. Once he realized how easy it was to lay sluts from Tinder, he just doesn't give a shit anymore. He can grab any chick he wants, anywhere he wants, and says whatever the fuck he wants on Tinder. It hasn't changed anything for him, still the same number hookups to matches.
I guess what I'm saying is, women are no different. Sluts swipe looking for man-whores and hookup regardless. If you hit a 9 and you are a 9, and she didn't want to fuck she won't fuck you anymore than she'd fuck a 7. If she did, you could say "My balls itch and I like to eat shit" and she'll still come over and screw your brains out loling at everything you write. Then its just a bunch of thirsty shits like us fighting for the scraps; which is pretty fucking BP unless you're cathartic about it.
Yet! In the real world many of those girls who just fade on Tinder will put-out pretty much on demand even to guys like me. So yea, this article was BS. I wouldn't be surprised if she just made up half that shit.
diFFzee 8y ago
It's probably regional. In NYC tinder is stupid level simple. 10 messages max, "lets grab a drink after work" 7/10 are down, 2 will raincheck one will say something retarded like "let's get to know each other better first" you next that one. Beyond that getting from drinks to sex isn't that hard. Everybody drinks a lot (cause nobody drives), logistics are simple cause everybody's packed in the same small area you literally have to be not retarded. That's in the 22-26 crowd which is my target audience.
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epixs 8y ago
glad to hear your doing well irl in the hookup game, your experiences definitely give some insight. Cant say i still agree with everything since i can pickup most of the time any girl in the bar and fuck her that night, dosn't work the same on tinder (even tho i get shit ton of matches)...
I'm also highly under invested in tinder, I just do the whole "hi" , "whatre you lookin for" thing because fuck validating these ho's before they fucked me
PlanB_pedofile 8y ago
Watched one of these late night shows. Dish nation i think. They did a tinder side by side of a 8 guy and a 8 girl. Same age same good looks same profile and did 1000 swipes.
They handsome male model guy got 300 matches and 100 messages. The girl got 700 matches and 350 messages.
That's Tinder. It's an easy cock buffet for women. Just it's not always your cock.
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epixs 8y ago
well that makes a lot of sense, cant argue with factual data
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cariboo_j 8y ago
Mawfuggah's been reading Schopenhauer and Kant on women I see...
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Just Schop. Kant was a BP pussy about broads. Altho his Metaphysical Philosophy was RP as fuck.
DodgedAFew 8y ago
Hmm, I would bet on a furry friend and a glass of wine.
Regardless: buy cat food and marriage counseling firms equity if you are looking to invest!
Kingoffistycuffs 8y ago
Or kill himself, ether way something's gonna die. The beta or the body.
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thefisherman1961 8y ago
The only woman I've ever known that I would consider to be an intellectual cheated on her fiance two months after they started dating. They've been together for almost 6-1/2 years and she's kept it a secret this whole time. I'm one of the only people who knows.
Hrodrik 8y ago
I don't see where is the mutual exclusivity between being logical and faithful.
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LEGOvikings 8y ago
On your first bullet point, claiming that a woman whose intellectual side overrides her feminine side is good LTR material.. In my wholly personal experience this is not so. A woman who can think and act logically and soundly, like a man, has in all three of my relationships where this was relevant also had a low feminine sexual drive. "Always" up for sex, but never ever initiating with that insatiable hunger I have experienced in far more emotionally driven (illogical) women. Such women are good companions for accomplishing personal goals, but will leave regular guys sexually frustrated, and extremely sexually driven alpha guys would very quickly of the starfishing and/or lack of internal sexual appetite Your milage will vary.
StotheGG 8y ago
Ojos is completely wrong. You take a woman away from her femininity and you've got nothing. A feminine woman CAN be GAMES. For years. Hell, forever. It just takes the right kind of man. That's the point. No amount of intellectualism is going to make people loyal to you. Actually, in the long run, there is nothing inherently logical about staying married or having one partner. It is the irrational mind of women that is a man's greatest friend. So, for whatever amount of frustration it might create, it is to be cherished and directed---NOT condemned.
If you have already given up on the idea of romance and seduction in your LTR is speaks more about your total lack of game than it does about the best kind of partner for a man. There were women out there that will put out, do the kinkiest shit you've imaged and cook you breakfast in the morning. And guess what. They ain't the rational and highly intellectual ones. Stop lying to yourself and learn some real game instead of throwing sand into your brothers eyes.
LEGOvikings 8y ago
I did not mention game, my attitudes to romance and seduction, or anything at all about my current relationships, if there are any. Your tone seems to imply you are writing to me personally.
Most of us who are not in our early twenties have several if not many relationships behind us, from when we were blue through and through, or were purple but clueless. Many posts here are in-hindsight reflections on these.
Stop acting like everything that isn't an aggressive condemnation of women is proof that the poster is some acne ridden no lifer whose personal best deadlift is 44 lbs.
StotheGG 8y ago
You've essentially stated that you're looking for a woman that is unfeminine. That is more like a man. I just find that flawed, precisely because it obviate why we would ever enter into a relationship in the first place. You also minimize sex. Again, if we minimize the femininity of women and sex....why the hell would we want to be in a long term relationship? I think that your logic runs counter to what would even compel a man to commit to a woman. Lastly, even when it comes to raining children, it is far easier to control a relationship through the desire of a mother to keep her family together than some logical 'man-woman'. So, this has nothing to do with men who have no experience with women.....it has to do with a view that takes out all the incentive a man would have to actually form a relationship with a woman.
LEGOvikings 8y ago
What the fuck is wrong with your reading comprehension? I stated that I (personally) had (past tense) three relationships where the woman was logical and "intellectual" and had a lacking femininity, and my sex life suffered because of it.
It's just a fucking anecdote from the days where "we" thought the best women for us were sexually distant because honor and other Disney beta shit that centres on repressing male sexuality.
Man. Have a good new year.
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Vindiel6930 8y ago
Your conclusion is exactly what I noticed when I started technical university; there's less females (20%, as compared to the almost 60% of my high school class) but teasing and being fun is enough to get them; even though I looked like a neckbeard
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foldpak111 8y ago
The sheer audacity to be able to afford to live in SV, then complain about some shit, absolutely baffles me. I lived there for 9 months and was amazed at what I experienced. Just going for jogs in the parks were amazing. But then again, I'm not a woman.
hugeveinycock 8y ago
Can you elaborate? What's it like there?
plenkton 8y ago
All I see is a women's seeing (but not realizing) af/bb.
TheZooveGroover 8y ago
Bullshit! Maybe without any context a woman wouldn't be drawn to such a man... However, knowing who they are first makes all the difference. Seeing how all the men behave around Wozniak makes her instinctively crave his attention more. Why? It is in the nature of women to seek power.
LionLegacy 8y ago
Jesus she looks scary.
The age at which women hit the wall seems to be getting younger and younger
foldpak111 8y ago
Blame it on the "you go girls" and white knights validating every decision, good or bad, committed by women (carb after dark, promiscuity, pizza&beer, excessive make up). If you act like you can ride lightning, you're going to crash like thunder.
through_a_ways 8y ago
Nah, it's biological too. Guys (and even girls) are losing their hair, or wrinkling, quite fast.
I've legit seen girls my age with higher hairlines than me, and this isn't an exaggeration.
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raceAround126 8y ago
The article reads as if that twit from Sex and the City wrote it. And she really does look old and used up.
My thoughts are, she didn't get any action from "alphas" because she's not in their league.
I have been to tech conventions before and the number of late-30s "My company forced me to come here but as I'm here, I'll find some rich bloke" that hang around looking disappointed with themselves is funny. You will usually find them around either the big name stands (Microsoft et al) or the coffee bars. Seriously, some of the women who have talked at me there, some of their first questions were 100% designed to find out how rich I am.
On the plus side you can have fun with it. You won't believe how quick conversations can end when you say that you're a tea-boy. Or how much the conversation elevates when you namedrop some big stars and subtly suggest you're worth a few quid.
Just in case you're wondering, no these are not good places to pick up women worth even a fuck.