It has been a couple years since I officially took the red pill. So this post is partial field report and partial thanks to the community for giving me the skills and confidence I lacked when I was a blue pill beta.
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I got an unexpected text from a lady I know (lets call her Laura) asking me to come hang out with her and a couple friends. I have known Laura for a couple years now and we have flirted on and off but nothing to serious. I had just got off a 12 hour shift and replied I might be down to come over but I would decide when I get home. She sends me a few more message saying she is going to be there a while and they just ordered food. I get home and decide I still have enough energy to hang out for a while so I head on over to my friends place where they are at. We eat food and play a quick drinking game though I take it pretty easy since I have to work the next morning. Since I have been single for a while and I am ready to leave monk mode I decided I would apply some of what I had learned around here to her since if I can learn to game her then I can game just about anyone. I spend the evening making her laugh and do some minor escalation and kino though I was a little limited in that regard because the other friends with her were her co-workers and they all know she has a boyfriend. As the night comes to an end her lame ass boyfriend wont come pick her up because he has no car and he doesn't want to drive his mom's car so I offer to give her a ride home since it is along the way to may place anyway. She jumps on the offer and quickly texts her boyfriend she got a ride.
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This part is interesting because it is where old blue pill me would have given the fuck up because I had no concept of the female hamster. Once in the car the conversation immediately turns sexual in nature. She talks about how we often flirt but nothing comes of it. At least three separate times she claims she doesn't want to do anything sexual with me but the very next sentence out of her mouth contradicts that each time. I recognize this is as shit testing and ASD going to the max. I pay it no attention and continue escalating anyway as we drive to her place. We reach her parking lot and she stays to talk with me for a while in the car. Twice her ASD kicks in and she opens the door to get out but then closes it again and continues the conversation. Again I pay it no attention and continue with the escalation. After several minutes she is admitting her darkest fantasies to me and how she has dreams where I take advantage of her rather forcefully. I let her know I'm into a lot of dom/sub stuff which sends a visible chill down her body followed by some strong IoI's. She jokingly punches me in the arm at one point and hurts her hand but she says she likes the pain because it reinforces that I'm too tough for her to even try to hurt. At this point its getting really late and I am running on fumes since I needed to get some rest for my next 12 hour shift which was only 4 hours from then. She also has work and we decide it best to call it a night. She then invites me to go with her to a private invite only BDSM meeting this weekend and she would rather go with me instead of her boyfriend lol. We hug goodnight and she gives me a bite on the neck (she is a weird nerd like that) and she heads off into her place. Not even 5 mins after I leave she was already texting my phone for more details on what kind of kinks I'm into.
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I am glad I found this community and learned about coping with the female hamster. Watching it in action like this was both fascinating and scary since there were times where she was so turned on she couldn't believe the words coming out of her own mouth and then her ASD would suddenly try to kick in. Denying she would ever do anything sexual with me in one sentence and then in the next she was almost begging for it. Even if nothing comes of this down the line I feel I have learned a valuable lesson and gained a ton of confidence. I was able to put all that I learned into action and it worked very well.
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So in closing I want to give a big thanks to everyone here for tearing me down and building me back up into a better man.
Nocryingok 5y ago
TRP is full of "I will bang this girl soon" FRs. I used to do this in the past (brag to friends that hot girls are interested in me) and it shows a very weak mindset: that what happened so far is enough. Men should always try to reach new limits. If you're going to brag, please at least wait until you do the deed or finish the story
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Guys interested in the BDSM elements of this story will also find the following useful:
Uncle Vasya’s Guide to Submissive Women
-How to lead when she wants to follow.
Of Human Bondage – Uncle Vasya’s Guide for Men Who Like To Tie Up Young Ladies.
-The Field Guide to playing knotty games with naughty girls.
Enorflame 5y ago
I've definitely been the chump in this scenario. Good thing it made me find this place. I'll see y'all on the other side.
gixxerthouguy 5y ago
Reading this reminds of hooking up with a girl in a club, then going over to meet her at her student house later that week. As we were in bed naked, she told me she wasn't going to sleep with me. OK I said, blue pill to the core. There wasn't a second date.
That was 25 years ago.
buttgoogler 5y ago
Glad you've come up with this, because this question has been bothering me for a long time. Wanna hear your thoughts on this topic, folks.
Im not just talking about this specific question, but after a face-to-face conversation with some kino, girls tend to bring up sexual personal questions through text. I usually go with something along the lines of "we can talk about it in person, don't worry" or some shit.
But is this the right move? What is the alternative way that might work better? Curious to hear what you folks would do.
bakamoney 5y ago
Girls do flip fast so you shouldn't dodge it entirely.
But yeah calls over text always.
politeAndLevelHed 5y ago
Don't underestimate the power of text. It's a blunt communication tool, emotionless, so the other person is forced to colour in the message with emotion.
You'd be amazed what deep dark secrets you can fish out using text when the other person might be more hesitant to voice in words the same thing, especially during a discovery phase about that other person.
Remember, texting is done in silence, nobody can hear a text, so it can feel amazingly intimate and private.
askmrcia 5y ago
This really depends on how well you know them and like in the post if she has boyfriend. This also depends on who you are as a person and I know that answer sucks, but it is what it is.
Me personally I do not like texting too much through text even if the messages are sexual. But that's just how I am. I only done it a very few times because I knew what girls I could do it with.
My best friend loves texting and he doesn't give a shit who the girl is. He goes for it all. There are times when I think he over does it but in the end it works for him.
WarViper1337 5y ago
I believe the answer to this isn't so straight forward and can be different for each situation. Some would say the best thing to do is talk about that stuff in person because it allows you to perform some good isolation and escalation stuff. In this case I have known this woman for a while now and I have a pretty good idea when I should text vs meet in person for maximum effect.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
She's in your sights. Isolate and pull the trigger.
ProFriendZoner 5y ago
You read about it a lot, but when you see it happen right in front of you ... WOW!!! Good luck!
And a tip to others, a LOT of women are into the kinky stuff. When 50 Shades was popular I knew a woman who was into the books so I took some rope classes (called Shibari, it's Japanese Rope Bondage). While nothing happened with her, you can turn a lack of interest into a woman hanging on to your every word when you mention tying them up. Apparently a lot of guys don't know how or are no good at it. Go to youtube and look up Double Column Ties. Don't tie them to tight. Leave some wiggle room but just enough they can't get out. It works. Check out the BDSM Community on Reddit for more, but the Double Column Tie is VERY versatile and you can do so much with it that it won't get boring. (single column ties can be quite effective as well, but you'd need another rope.)
warburgio 5y ago
Simple leather handcuffs and cog-ties are far easier to use and they dont carry a risk of restricting blood flow. If you for ropes though its good to have some sort of cutting tool just in case.
ProFriendZoner 5y ago
Yes on the cutting tool. And discuss it before hand. Don't tie her up the same night you tell her you're into it. Make sure she's willing. The day after call her or visit and check in with how she's doing. In the BDSM community they call this aftercare. It's very important. Go to the BDSM subs and search for aftercare.
As for the leather handcuffs, I find most commercially available ones to be rough and stiff. Remember when tying hands (or cuffing them) not to do it so tight. Keep it loose enough that they move around and not do nerve damage but that they can't get out of either. Check out Fetlife for classes. That's what i've done. Become good at this and you will be a GOD to women.
WarViper1337 5y ago
Thanks for the info I will check it out later for sure. I have also noticed that women are going crazy for bondage stuff these days. In my case she straight up told me she wants to be tied up and have her brains fucked out lol.
p3n1x 5y ago
They always have.
"These days" there are a lot of beta pussies roaming around in the sexual market place and most are full of shit when they utter the words Bondage or Dominance. 50 shades was popular because the theme of the movie was some innocent princess getting control over some billionaire badass by being submissive???
Don't talk to the woman about BD in depth, just tell her you enjoy controlling her "senses" for sexual reward. Never believe a word that comes out of her mouth about "how into it she is", always take baby steps until you learn her limits with you personally (her past stories and yours are irrelevant). There are fantasies and then there is what really happens to the mind when someone is tied up and blindfolded.
If you don't understand meltdowns and aftercare, don't go fucking around with Bondage. If you can't tell the difference in their multi layered actual tears, don't fuck with bondage.
ProFriendZoner 5y ago
The double column tie for the hands is very versatile. You can have access to both front and back simply by flipping her over. A single column tie to each ankle and she ain't moving.
masterpiece00 5y ago
By the sounds of it I think she was just using you for the meal and a ride home, and even if she is not they girls don't usually give you anymore chances for sex if you don't push for it right out of the gate, she might of been just cock teasing to get you out the door, would she not fuck someone like Dicaprio if he was alone with her?.
They make all sorts of promises and invitations but girls are fickle and they change plans regularly or they will have a few chad plates offering, she will be different in a few days and I wouldn't be surprise if you don't hear from her.
WarViper1337 5y ago
They had already ordered food and eaten just before I arrived and she had other transportation plans lined up as she was about to get an Uber. She also wasn't trying to get me out the door since the guy who owned the apartment was ready to get some rest and all of us there had work first thing in the morning. I agree though that women are fickle creatures. It certainly wouldn't be the first time in my life a woman has made me promises and then stood me up so its not going to be surprise to me if it does happen. The main take away I had was that I was able to use new skills, confidence, and a much deeper understanding of how the hamster works to overcome some of those obstacles that the old blue pill me would have been to afraid to try to surmount.
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I have no doubts that she would and I would imagine that just about any woman would also have a hard time turning down a famous movie star that ranks well into the top 1% of men.
masterpiece00 5y ago
Yeah but you fail to see that she used you as her time whore, she has a boyfriend whom she is fucking and probably has a chad on the side too, in between that she requires entertainment, a ride and attention which you are giving, and getting nothing in return other than her turning away.
WarViper1337 5y ago
It is very possible she did but I don't think every encounter with a woman has to be measured up to "I had sex" or "I did not have sex". I knew she was a challenge for various reasons and I wanted to put some of the red pill theory in practice. She was not the main reason I went to go hang out with my friends. She just happened to be there and I thought it was good time to try some new game out. I had fun with all of them regardless of how that situation with her turns out.
_whistler 5y ago
Yes. Hell yes. You've got your head in the right place, my man.
It's not about "had sex" or "didn't have sex". It's about building attraction. You can build attraction over any period of time at all, and as long as that attraction continues to grow, eventually attraction overcomes resistance. And this is all done through putting the theory and techniques into practice, as you said.
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markinsinz7 5y ago
Cool story, might be time to quit video games for a bit unless you have managed to keep it strictly under 1 hour a week
Fulltilt_Ronny 5y ago
Ya´ll are pretending to be "free all dem male blue pill cucks !!112"
But then again its not even worth a THOUGHT that you really kick some poor dude in his BALLS and maybe even ruin his happy (blue pill) life by going FULL TRYHARD MODE gettin in his girlfriends/wifes Pants.
you ask me, you "red pill Alphas" are just grown up School bullys, looking for new ways to hurt your fellow men. If it is OH SO EASY to fuck ALL DEM AWALT grills, why you not picking up some single sluts in full "carousel" mode? WHY it has to be married women?
you just SHIT on all other men, down from your high "Alpha" horse. you are superior men, and so it is your RIGHT to take away Girls from other men, right? maybe you even hamster yourselves up "he needed his life ruined by me to wake up from his blue pill dreams".
yeah Keep telling yourself that.
p3n1x 5y ago
I'm not obligated to give a fuck about your 'feelings'. You don't have any "rights" to pussy just because you were born male.
And your marriage is a religious contract you agreed to subscribe to, not me.
ProFriendZoner 5y ago
She's going to fuck the alpha whether it's you or someone else. I'm guessing you were on the wrong end of that one. Swallow The Red Pill.
krrisztian 5y ago
Nature's rule NO. 1 is survival of the fittest. In a sense, why should we "allow" less capable men to reproduce thus make more "unfit" offspring?
This belongs to nowadays' "be nice" feminized mindset and not at all to basic evolutionary instincts. To give you a cliché example, have you ever seen a lion not taking a prey because it didn't want the other lion to have hunger? Hell no.
Im not saying put your energy into destroying relationships, all I'm saying is don't sacrifice yourself and pull back because of a beta male or what other's might think. He didn't do anything anyways so what are you ranting about....
WarViper1337 5y ago
You know I used to think like this years ago but then I realized women will never share this same thought process no matter how innocent they might seem. The only women that are still like this are the ones that come from a strong religious background and are still held accountable in a community that will shame them otherwise. This however is a dying thing in the western world and is far from the norm these days. Feminism has seen to the destruction of traditional family values and allowed women to have free range of their sexual desires. I could care less about the guy she is with right now. He is only kicking himself in the balls by letting his woman run wild. Also I don't care if a woman is single, married, or whatever else she classifies her self as these days because the only thing that matters is giving my time and attention to those women that are willing to reciprocate it.
_whistler 5y ago
Once again, you're right on the money. The female sexual strategy, free of cultural coercion and social accountability pressures, will run wild branch to branch. Creating attraction, then maintaining or escalating it, is a temporary substitute for the sociocultural leash that has been gnawed through by feminist influence.