As with all school of thoughts the movements start small. Only a handful of people who are the originators of the ideas are aware. Soon they spread their message and more and more people become aware of their way of thinking.
The only reason 'The Red Pill' hasn't blown up yet is because it is supressed by the western society. Media outlets simply disqualify the way of thinking; call it mysoginistic, racist, oppressive, etc. You guys are all aware of this. The recent shut down of this subreddit is overt proof that there are people working against us to contain the truth.
The red pill WILL one day become mainstream. From the prospective of today; the future looks bleak. The baby boomers have truly let down the younger generation. Making the future more expensive and less fruitful of them. With climate change, enlarging student debt, AI replacing human work, women now pushing farther and ahead of men. The future will be hard for us.
There's a saying that goes like this
Hard times create strong men Strong times create good times Good times create weak men Weak men create hard times
Now I do have to mention this saying hasn't been 'proven' so to speak but we have seen this repeat itself over and over, and if I were to ask you all today where we are at this in this cycle we could probably all agree at 'good times create weak men'. I say this because the future will get MUCH harder for the younger generation we just haven't experienced it yet, but the storm is coming.
The red pill will be essential in showing the way when times will get tough. There will be events in the future, that over time, we will see spikes in people visiting this subreddit and continuing people that will try and shut us down.
However just like in the matrix people will overtly reject being taking out of it. One must be 'ready' to leave the matrix before they can even try. It's the same with TRP. People are not ready to understand what we have to say here.
But one day, they will.
NOTE: I've been thinking about writing an essay like this for a long time and I've finally sat down and written it down to get it done. I would love to hear from you guys what you think and any logical fallacies or leaps that I may have made.
maljo24 5y ago
"The truth" is really just your opinion. I don't see TRP taking off.
lamwilton 5y ago
Make America Great AgainKeep America Great
ozaku7 5y ago
And then all you betas won't have any advantage anymore and be back at square one, because only the top 20% is alpha, the lower 80% is beta, no matter how you look at it.
majani 5y ago
Unfortunately I disagree. The red pill is for go getting men. If you understand the goal of civilization(to eliminate Darwinism in humans) then you'll realise that because of that, modern society will always have weak men in our midst in large numbers.
Whitified 5y ago
This is pure fantasy, no one cares about men. If #MeToo causes a backlash, it's because women are suffering. No one cares about men.
Until a patriarchal religion becomes mainstream and teaches us to love other men as brothers and not as competition, the red pill will never become mainstream.
Eslapole 5y ago
I don't really think that that is going to happen. Are more men going to swallow the red pill? yeah, of course, but I can guarantee you that a lot of them will turn into incels and monks and they are likely to avoid any kind of contact with society.
TheGoblinTurkey 5y ago
I hope it doesn't, makes it more fun for us
faustian_talos 5y ago
I doesnt matter what our opinion of it is, I will just happen.
FifthGoblin 5y ago
I think having an entire generation of men knowing the truth of how our society is like would be quite unifying and important.
But yes, also not as fun haha
TheGoblinTurkey 5y ago
In all seriousness I do hope this becomes more mainstream, following the whole irs thot thing on Twitter is reminding me how unbalanced it is these days
Omnibrad 5y ago
I don't know why you think it's fun living in a world filled with limp-wristed men.
MarcosDomingues 5y ago
Less competition
GLADmyNAMEaintDICK 5y ago
He's insecure, as most people are. He much rather the average be absolutely pathetic so he can think highly of himself, even if he is still mediocre at best. The people around him would not challenge his self-esteem. He feels being surrounded by dwarves makes him a giant.
If you are really surprised by his insecurity and narcissism, it's probably because you have simply developed healthy relationships established upon empathy and realize how the world is greater than yourself or any individual, and that establishing bonds with other strong men makes us stronger, even if it reveals our shortcomings.
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It was obviously a joke, but nice monologue about me. If you wanna suck it all you have to do is ask.
GLADmyNAMEaintDICK 5y ago
I know threads can look complicated but I wasn't commenting about what you said.
[deleted] 5y ago
Well at least your name isn't Dick.
[deleted] 5y ago
I DO NOT want to see what 150 million guys in the anger phase looks like.
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TheSelfGoverned 5y ago
It is going to happen. I guarantee there are cracks forming in that blue-pill dam.
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the_pill_is_free 5y ago
That is what war is.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
It looks like the Arab Spring.
[deleted] 5y ago
Oh you mean a CIA backed coup made to look like a public uprising?
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[deleted] 5y ago
I do lol. Shit will be wild and no one will put up with women’s bullshit ever again.
AllahHatesFags 5y ago
Maybe then we can actually have a patriarchy!
maljo24 5y ago
Throughout history we have had many patriarchal societies: endless war, death and destruction.
In the the last 25 years violent crime has fallen in half in the US and most civilized countries. Most societies have a decent economy. The fem/liberals are doing a good job.
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red_philosopher 5y ago
Until times are good, and the pendulum of power swings once again out of the hands of weak men and into the hands of women, and the cycle repeats.
FatStig 5y ago
That's called Muslims.
adminsaregayniggers 5y ago
TIL that fucking goats and prepubescent boys is "red pill"
FullOfShiznit 5y ago
No, they are religious, brainwashed, love deprived crackpots with bad childhood full of hostility and unfulfilled desires leaving voids that can't be filled with anything but depression and hate. Not exactly the definition of TRP
1by1is3 5y ago
That sounds like a feminist berating RP men
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Luftiwaffe 5y ago
at least most of them have both their parents
FullOfShiznit 5y ago
What good is a family structure when all it does is giving you misery just because the holy book says so and also giving you birth defects because muslim morals are pro incest. Combine this with a harsh and hostile environment built on islam( the outcome of Muhammad - the child rapist's frustration and hate towards humanity) and you've got yourself a factory of degenerated crackpods. Again, ask yourself, what good is a family structure deprived of any healthy humane thought?
throwabcdaway3 5y ago
better have teeth than parents
herrazki 5y ago
talks about hate but write the most hatefull comment about 1.5 billion people who just happen to practise their religion lol you should really chill
throwabcdaway3 5y ago
lol mulslim countries are the top consumer of porn videos on the net.. talk about frustration
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Quo210 5y ago
Why not? Imagine the chaos. A societal order broken, civilization thrown into dissaray for years, as the idiots and the incompetent fumble in ignorance, unable to comprehend, blind in the dark, as things taken for granted are suddenly denied.
Change is good.
p3n1x 5y ago
It isn't possible. Alpha is alpha regardless of the quality of the Beta. You guys are "imagining" a scenario that doesn't work based on the 80/20 principle. Knock off the Disney shit. Most men that want an apocalyptic future played too much Fallout and will be most of the first to die. You wish for the Black Plague because you are arrogant enough to assume your genetics will get you through.
There were just as many beta twats in the 90's and the 80's and 70's and so on. There is no biological scenario where ALL men are good when dealing with women.
Quo210 5y ago
There's a reading comprehension problem here. You require some further guidance down my hypothetical proposition.
Chaos, in the form of a society redpilling itself by making it mainstream, and breaking the way the system has worked for centuries, will breed change. In simple words, less men putting up with the shit, means AF/BB paradigm starves. It won't die, but it will suffer. A system sustained on the precedent that men exist to funnel their slavelike workforce into it, will strain if the slaves rebel.
Nowhere was mentioned a potential civilization wiping disaster like 'the black plague'; you are projecting with the LARP accusations, brother.
Maybe we'll see more agressive politics from the government towards 'rebel' men, like those taxes imposed in ancient Greece to single men to force them to marry.
[deleted] 5y ago
That’s some unintelligible gibberish and I’m dumber now for having read it.
What exactly are you trying to say?
p3n1x 5y ago
Go LARP somewhere else.
I replied to /u/Quo210 , not you. Your confusion may not be from my poetic rhetoric but your inadequacy to follow a chain.
[deleted] 5y ago
Ok I’ll bite. Just so we’re clear though, it won’t end until we have a full blown patriarchal society. You good with ZERO thots to bang? Because they’re going to stone all the thots.
Field_Of_View 5y ago
You mean they'll stone one and the rest of them will rush to put on their burkas and play nice.
Quo210 5y ago
Since we seem to cycle from that to liberalism borderlining in degeneracy, the hypothetical future you propose doesn't seem farfetched.
That already happens, literally, in Islamic countries, and not literally, in the other Asian ones (Indians and Chinese/Japanese might no lynch, but a woman openly thoting is going to face consequences for not 'saving face').
Sweden, as the prime example of all this disaster, is on the line of complete liberal degeneracy, now throwing transgender politics and campaings in highschoolers and lower ages, glorifying the 'victim' ... and they are welcoming illegal muslisms en masse too; what is going to happen to feminism and all their intersectionalism once muslism take a stronger hold of their politic environment? Not to mention how Islam is the fastest growing religion in recent years.
Thanks to the radical feminism, humanity is now gazing upon the ugly truths and going straigth for a blackpill. It just isn't that visible in the west. Yet.
TFWyourWaifuDies 5y ago
The obsession with banging thots is derived from our sick society being devoid of meaning that men have to bang sluts for entertainment.
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I’d tend to agree. Although man has always loved poon.
TheSelfGoverned 5y ago
There is a big difference between chasing random thot poon and having a meaningful relationship.
LandoChronus 5y ago
I don't think I'd say it will become mainstream as an idea, simply because the Red Pill is the truth. The truth doesn't care about politics, or socio-economic trends. The truth just is, and even though the majority of men don't see it, while the majority of women ignore it, the truth will still be there.
Acting as a man according to red pill ways of thinking is how men behave according to their biology. It's only "non-mainstream" because feminism has pushed it down into the shadows, not because it's a new concept that hasn't gained enough publicity yet.
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This. It will be spread through general advice and ideas. Putting an actual name/rules to the ideology and trying to spread it like that will make it too visible of a target to feminists etc, who can fight it.
[deleted] 5y ago
White nationalists have been claiming, within their circles, that white nationalism will one day become mainstream. They have been telling that for over a few decades.
Truth is, hateful movements like white nationalism will never, ever be mainstream.
And while TRP itself is not a hateful movement like white nationalism, members of the TRP community way too often condone, and sometimes outright support, hateful ideologies, including white nationalism.
That's why 1) this sub has been quarantined and 2) TRP will never become mainstream.
TRP is not just opposition to irrational 3rd wave feminism or sexual strategy or self-improvement. It also has a lot of hateful, racist and bigoted messages.
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GodOfDinosaurs 5y ago
At it's best, TRP is a self-help toolbox for guys. But it comes with a whole lot of pseudoscience and an acute victim complex which is perpetuated by some of the mods. This sort of community will always be a fringe space for disaffected men. Honestly, that's fine. Anybody that believes feminism is responsible for the 'downfall' of western civilization (itself an amorphous term) is literally delusional.
TRP will help you get fit, mentally healthy and laid. That's all it needs to do.
askmrcia 5y ago
You're absolutely right. Also I see way too many comments here that also make things too political.
Once you start bashing liberals, the Left and on top of that blaming women's voting rights well then now you're considered a hateful group.
Guys here can deny it all they want, but I do see those things pop up way too often here.
jcrpta 5y ago
I think it's already happening.
It's slow - societies don't change overnight - and being as the mirror that the media holds up to society is often biased towards the feminine, it's heavily watered down. But I still think it's happening.
As long as you don't mention the words "red pill", most of the core tenets are pretty safe to discuss in open company. You run the risk of being considered slightly old-fashioned, but that's about the worst of it.
TUVegeto137 5y ago
The red pill has existed for thousands of years in some form or another.
PrimeMinisterOfSheep 5y ago
The less people who know about TRP, the easier it is for me. Why would I want more competition?
LokiWantsToPlay 5y ago
The dopamine rush that people get from "being the underdog" is ridiculous.
First of all, TRP isn't new. It's core "tenants" in terms of a philosophical movement is over 100 years old. The only difference is, the shift in gender dynamics today has forced the original movement to evolve to include gender relations. Just study Teddy Roosevelt's "Strenuous Life" and you can see the many similarities.
We're all aware that the social constructionist idea of gender relations is categorically wrong (But just like convincing a religious person to disbelieve in his fairy tale, it's like smashing your head against a wall, especially when there is a financial/power benefit for holding the idea) and so TRP delivers a right-wing, self-improvement program which is wide open for debate (Good luck with that, btw), to help men succeed in life. It merely baits you in with the promise of an orgasm with a sexy cum-dumpster.
Our language is un-PC, not our ideas. Take any concept here, don't mention TRP in any way and watch society agree as either being obvious or logically/morally legitimate. TRP is mainstream, it just has many different names
sadomasochrist 5y ago
There's no PC "women are children."
LokiWantsToPlay 5y ago
There's no PC "women are (insert anything negative)."
FIFY
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Much older than that.
Far_Working 5y ago
Core tenants are basically stoicism, so we can pull it all the way back to the Greeks.
freshoutofgravitas 5y ago
I first encountered red pill ideas in the I Ching. At 27 i finally started getting what i wanted from women on my terms . hilarity ensued.
shaggyctes88 5y ago
Could You elaborate please?
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novalentineforyou 5y ago
You're using "ironic" incorrectly. Doesn't that make you wrong too, asshole?
warlordchad 5y ago
Agree, except for the political aspect. One could hypothetically agree with Bernie Sanders on most policy and still be red pill, but I digress...
To piggyback on the last point, I’ve had so many women tell me (usually after sex) that they’re just as sick and tired of feminist doctrine as anyone—they want men to be men, they want to be pretty and girly, etc, etc.
And when I bring up TRP ideas around other people (without ascribing the name), almost no one objects, and usually a few people are like thank God for what you’re saying.
I do agree with OP in that we’re going to see a backlash. Open female hypergamy isn’t good for society and it’s going to provoke a huge course correction or see a very public schism between people who are more androgynous vs. male/female centered—we’re by far the majority btw.
Aggressive_Beta 5y ago
No you can’t. Bernie is a socialist stooge and TRP’s description of the SMP is based on free market economics:
http://archive.is/vS3DD
VDmedication 5y ago
brah. TRP is first and foremost about personal responsibility.
To overcome the anger phase, in a nutshell, one must accept personal responsibility for one's self and one's own SMV. Some guys become incels, and some guys decide to man the fuck up. This means realising that nobody is going to give you a ripped body but you. Nobody can put your finances in control but you.
TRP is opening one's eyes to the reality of the free market. "If I put in the work, I can create a monopoly on pussy through from what I've created. It's capitalism. It's accepting the crappy hand that you've been dealt and playing the shit out of it.
Socialism would rather see that everyone at the table gets pocket deuces. And the river is all deuces. And bluffing is against the rules.
Socialism would rather see that every SMV is equal. Every pussy deserving of a cock. No fat shaming! No slut shaming! And, ironically, not all cocks are deserving of a pussy.
To bluff on your hand in the socialist poker game of life is to shoot higher. And to Bernie and his ilk, that's dangerous. "Fuck." They think. "Fuck, if people realise that all they have to do is take personal responsibility, our whole system goes down the toilet. I know, we'll use propaganda to dissuade men from being men and make Disney movies and quarantine TRP etc."
So, no. One cannot be TRP and a fucking socialist at the same time. I mean, unless you're chill with me and everyone else here coming over and fucking your wife's communal pussy.
warlordchad 5y ago
You're taking the idea of socialism to the extreme, which is not what Bernie Sanders, or honestly, an politician people take seriously is or ever has proposed. TRP can exist in conjunction with universal healthcare, free college--hell even a UBI. Ask men who live in much of Europe where that's the way things are. Money is only one way to achieve a higher SMV, and frankly, if you can't exhibit other alpha behaviors it doesn't even matter how rich you are.
Seriously, this is one of the sub's major flaws. I get the right-wingyness as a reaction to feminism and SJWs who essentially are seeking to prevent men from carrying out any sort of sexual strategy, but when it comes to the economy and other stuff, there's no reason one can't be have liberal political views and still be red pilled. And actually, I should point out that at some point, if we continue to allow the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer, it severely limits economic mobility--the ability of individuals to be entrepreneurs and make their own way.
Overall, I'm not saying you should believe one way or the other. Believe whatever the fuck you want to believe. My point is that most of what TRP teaches is about interpersonal dynamics between men and women, and personal behaviors men can take on that will make them better people (smarter, healthier, financially independent, purposeful, etc.), and therefore more desirable to women. The strategies are universal, because they go back to our evolutionary design--hell, look at tribal societies, which were far more egalitarian than most of the world today. The strategies would have worked then too.
VDmedication 5y ago
Where's the personal responsibility in free healthcare, free tertiary education or free money?
TRP is about being in the top percentile of men within the sexual marketplace which, by definition, is a capitalist concept. Regardless of how one achieves this end.
My point is that none of the strategies outlined by TRP can be achieved without personal responsibility. Socialism seeks to remove even the possibility of personal responsibility.
Upward mobility is still as viable as ever it was. If blacks in the US were their own country they would have the 5th strongest economy in the world. And thanks to the internet, the path of the entrepreneur is infinitely more accessible for those willing to take personal responsibility and work their asses off.
And men in Europe? Hah! What an oxymoron. Do you mean the cuckolded men in Sweden and Germany who let refugees rape their wives? Or did you mean the shrinking population of white British men who, due to socialist values, are steadily letting Islam become the dominant religion in their country? Like... who and what and where are you talking about?
If you're an American, shame on you. Move to Venezuala.
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LowSpecTea 5y ago
Good try.
A few pointers:
Matrix references: I get that the name of the group is derived from the movie but referencing as a credible narrative kinda undermines your entire article. It’s a movie - written by people for mass entertainment/artistic expression, albeit a very well made one. But trust when I say every time I see somebody back a point up with the matrix- I stop taking them seriously.
Try not to quote it.
vague dystopian futurism: I get it that the world is in for a shitty time for everyone who doesn’t figure it out(I have a post I’m planning on this too) but that is a narrative that’s been bled to death for me personally anyway. The world has always gotten harder and crazier , when the industrial revolution hit Britain or when the world wars happened or Y2K or whatever else. The world has always been in for crazy times - we are living crazy times right now. They simply haven’t come knocking on your door yet is all.
Even if the ocean is turning to fire, the govt will claim that we are working on it and the pacified masses will hope that their tax dollars can do something about it. It’s not that people don’t wanna fight back against the narrative- but who has the power ?
If you think it’s ordinary people, I got some bad news.
RedPill will become mainstream: If you understood power dynamics then you would recognize that this place can never become openly mainstream.
The first rule of fight club, don’t talk about fight club. I’ve met one RedPill aware stranger in my life and it wasn’t a high five moment - it was a sssshh , trying to get me fired ? (Spoke to him later and became buds)
Don’t also underestimate females ability to create a stronger counter movement for people to join , something more sinister then feminism that can actively attack men.
And weak men will easily join for even a little validation(another post I’m gonna touch on)
You’re new at this process. So keep at it - but I really wouldn’t publish until after a month of writing and then pick your best one.
I’m no expert at it either , but I’m just a little farther along then you are and recognize some early mistakes.
giantsrocker 5y ago
Above is so true, especially the last point. People in power do not like competition. Those leaders would rather lie to keep the masses asleep than tell the truth which will drive their constituents to question aspects and possibly go their own way instead of following. Redpilled folks/group who are awake or who understand the dynamic is either their ally or competition and hence the backlash depends on the steps you take. We as a community are trying to awaken the masses who in all honesty, dont want to be bothered. Their leaders will try and preserve that state to keep their power and hence the rejection by mainstream leaders followed by blind rejection by the mainstream followers. It's not that those mainstream leaders think that we are incorrect. They are smart and are aware that what we preach is something they used themselves to be in a cushy position. accepting those principals will affect their current status and power and hence they'll do everthing they can to maintain status quo and limit spread of RP traits.
LowSpecTea 5y ago
Yep ???? Good big picture thought process
Focus on your effort - it’s the only thing in this world that you can be held accountable for. That’s why I don’t bother with saving the masses; wastes my time.
I would add one or two things but I’ll save those for a post I have on the topic coming up soon.
FifthGoblin 5y ago
That's a fair point about the Matrix movie, it is just a movie so it's not aligned with reality.
I guess a better analogy would be this. We all tried to save one of our blue pilled friends from themselves. But it didn't work, why? Because they weren't ready to hear it. They were too stuck in their way of thinking. Unless a strong personal experience pushed you towards TRP you will ignore it.
Here's the thing about a counter movement. We actually WANT and ENCOURAGE a counter movement. Why? Because it gives us a chance to quell any doubts people have about our ideals. We are not trying to convince them, but the 'audience' so to speak. Majority of people do not identify as a feminist. They just go with the flow and pick a 'ship' because it's easier to identify with a group.
If they attack us, don't they prove us right in the process?
//Thank you for pointing out some flaws and allowing me to clarify. Hopefully this clears what I'm trying to say a bit more. I'm only writing this for our benefit. TRP is an amazing tool wish I hope more men would know.
LowSpecTea 5y ago
They’re already attacking us , have we been proven right ?
The mainstream thinks we are a bunch of women suppressing neo-nazi types.
Secondly , is this audience going with the flow ? Or are they following self interest ?
You might not realize this but the dudes with fat dad bods, surrendered financial control to their wives, and accepted feminism whatever else are comfortable doing so because it means they don’t have to put in any more work. Everybody can get fat together so to speak and obesity rates in America seem to show that. But that’s a broad correlation if there ever was one. (I have a post on the works on this)
I don’t know how old or how academic you are, but you seem like you’re early for both. I would spend a bit more time learning about the world you live in and getting better at spotting the patterns.
//And Relax , you’ll get better over time hopefully. But remember , don’t spend all your time theorizing, it’s much better to apply everything and be a beast then to be some scholarly TRP dude who can’t get out of his comfort zone. Not hating on you or anything, just a friendly reminder to all theorizers.
Like I said in my last one , maybe 1-2 good theories that have been thought out per month is better than pumping out what feels rushed & incomplete. But that’s your choice.
Good luck.
TheBadGoy 5y ago
Lol, you told him to not quote the Matrix then you quote Fight Club... also I believe that most men will go MGTOW instead. If you don't see a dystopian future then you haven't grasped the seriousness of the situation, teenagers are either incels or weed smoking degenerates, in a few decades we will start paying the price and I honestly don't see a way to stop it.
LowSpecTea 5y ago
Haha good eye I didn’t realize what I did there. But I quoted it to relate why a friend was hush hush.
Trust when I tell you I’ve grasped the seriousness of the situation but I’ve made my peace with it. Also to say that every male teen is in the incel state or just being a peace of crap is a broad generalization- if you knew the amount of young men busting their ass and getting shit done you would have a little more optimism as well.
These degenerates are putting themselves in the bottom 80% and that’s just natural selection to me, I forget which contributor said it but:
80% of the men aren’t even in the game , the top 20% are the only ones even playing the game.
Focus on getting to the top 20 or even top 10 and let the amateurs ruin their life. I believe little intervention as well , as the guy above said somewhere - you are drawn and accept RedPill because a personal experience compels you to and it makes sense.
So if I can’t force change upon others , all I can do is become so good that men ask me what my secret is and perhaps I can point a few in this direction. The rest - don’t lose sleep over them.
Life is short.
But that’s just my take. If you wanna take the role of freeing men and getting them out of degeneracy - it’s an uphill battle. I’ve tried before. Won’t make that mistake again.
Good luck.
FifthGoblin 5y ago
Maybe were not supposed to survive it, but fail, and learn from it.
Just food for thought
TheBadGoy 5y ago
Russia learned the dangers of Communism but they payed a high price for it... it's always better to prevent things before it's too late
FifthGoblin 5y ago
I agree, but this is a huge amount of mental 'inertia' we are talking about changing with many facets to change it.
Do we make a film? Political Movement? Write books? Maybe all the above?
Perhaps it's just important to try something rather than sit and do nothing
TheBadGoy 5y ago
It depends on what you wanna fix, since there are so many problems affecting men nowadays, if you're talking about fixing the sexual market and giving men a fair chance I'd say it's too late, the only option encouraging men to become the best versions of themselves. If this doesn't work and incels keep committing suicide or mass murder then legalizing prostitution would probably be the only solution left. That would encourage them to make money, be productive and sexually satisfied and it would definitely increase their happiness. People also have been talking about state sponsored girlfriends or even robot girlfriends but that seems far fetched.
modernwhore 5y ago
Never going to happen. The Theory of Evolution is easy enough to understand and has an astronomical amount of data, facts, and research behind it...something even TRP doesn't have and it's still not what I would call mainstream since it's still disputed or misunderstood by a large chunk of the population.
Quo210 5y ago
It already is and was before; and It's regarded as a topic to be shunned because sociopaths, among others, master it instantly and use it ruthlessly, so the label makes it 'bad'. But success pulls more people into the thing. Globalization and easier acess to knowledge made it possible for more people to 'know' the gears and decide.
We might be witnessing another step in social evolution thanks to the information available. Maybe that's the reason the media tries so hard to silence it, because upon release, it might cause behavorial changes not desirable for the corporations.
serenity78 5y ago
Yeah, give it another twelve years and it'll totally take off.
korkyshadow 5y ago
As long as women keep spending the 80% of money and are 60% of the vote it won't. The gov/companies aren't pandering to women for no reason.
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I keep saying, none of this would have happened if we hadn’t given women the vote. What good has come from women voting?
korkyshadow 5y ago
Little to far imo. We shouldn't let people without jobs vote. If you aren't part of the daily grind and paying income taxes then you shouldn't be able to vote.
FifthGoblin 5y ago
I would argue that because of that it's bound to happen. We know women mostly make decisions off their emotions and are not entirely rational. This will reflect in the policies they pass and the fruitfulness of our future.
modernwhore 5y ago
Bro, most men make tons of life-changing decisions based on emotion. I know too many dudes with child support payments and/or $500+ a month truck payments while working min wage jobs.
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Call if “emotional” if you want. The fact is WOMEN SUCK AT MAKING INFORMED CHOICES
korkyshadow 5y ago
Which is why it's even more important to not let them have unlimited access to your bank account. Also why it is important to vote and not let them pass stupid shit. It's not "bound to happen" because it didn't happen for 99.9% of human existence.
Kenny_Twenty 5y ago
What exactly didn't happen in 99.9% of human existence?
FifthGoblin 5y ago
What do you mean didn't happen for 99% of human history? Can you be more specific?
korkyshadow 5y ago
Women didn't control mens finances until the 20th centenary. They didn't have voting power or public authority either.
hearse223 5y ago
Its already mainstream, the "hard on thots" movement is basically babbys first step into TRP
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I always thought that hip hop/rap culture would be the one thing that could save us from BP domination. Ever since the 90s, the genre has just shamelessly refused to budge on its negative perspective of women. Even women themselves embrace it...
TheSelfGoverned 5y ago
Yeah that is eye-opening. How badly women desire a man who tells her to shut up and treats her like a fleshlight.
stancourt 5y ago
What I hope with that, is that there will be huge social backlash both among women and men against the monster that the #metoo culture has become.
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Case in point, the recent video of a Korean MMA fighter showcases well what the #metoo movement is doing to young men.
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Korean MMA fighter refuses to take a picture with a ring girl. He had previously been accused of sexual harassment.
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Here's the story with videos. If you've been to the videos subreddit, you'd have seen it, as the thread posted in the subreddit hit the front page.
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Now, one argument the feminists/overprotective dads with daughters make is that women need protection from sexual harassment/assault.
I don't argue against that.
What I'm arguing against is giving the females power over males, thus creating power dis-balance between genders.
I also remember that 10 years ago, this division between genders was not a thing, as it wasn't so politicized and made to be a "thing". I get that women, on average, have higher gender association between each other, which manifests in coming around to help a fellow female, and offering her unconditional support, while males offer few words to another man and the hurt man is supposed to deal with his feelings on his own.
Right now, I'd like to address about the need that females need protection from sexual harassment as it currently stands judicially in the western world/USA.
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When we punish men for simply touching a woman worse than those who murder, it tells a lot about the current state of affairs.
If you touch a woman, and she deems you unworthy of her touch (not sexually attractive enough/not enough other qualities etc), then you get to go to jail, you get ostracized by the society, have to get on the sex offender registry for a few years (yes, even for a simple, unwanted touch). No future job career, you'll get lucky if you get ANY job after having sex harassment/assault on your file.
Secondly, the #metoo cultivates the idea that women are babies with adult faces who need protection from evil predatory men, which in turn cultivates them to be hyper-sensitive to minor male behavior that stems from our sexual nature.
There are other consequences, such as alienation between genders, walking on eggshells in relationships, since the bar has gotten very low and the consequences are life-ruining.
It also makes sexual activities more ... mechanical, like having to ask a girl every 15 seconds if it's ok to touch another part of her body, or having to sign a consent form before engaging in sex, or just in general being cautious and always making sure you have the consent. Women like spontaneity & decisiveness in men, they don't want to have to tell a guy to grab her around the waist and caress her, he's supposed to read her body language and understand it on his own, but men won't be doing that anymore, due to some of the reasons I mentioned above.
tl;dr fathers with daughters, who're in overprotective mode, and hyper-sensitive feminists have decided for the rest of us that trading personal freedoms for the absolute safety is a must.
A dad who has a daughter might have sons, such dad might have relatives who're male. The future generation isn't just gonna be female. An overprotective dad is not thinking about other males, he doesn't care about them as much as he does for the well being of his daughter. Which is why I think a short-sighted approach is what such dads are guided by.
I understand why dads with daughters are willing to cultivate this culture of reigning permanent punishment for males who acted out of their sexual desires, and giving women safeguards at the expense of men, I do.
If I had a daughter, my instincts would probably also make me overly protective of her, and I'd gladly trade the sexual freedom of males for my daughter's safety, but things like this have larger societal consequences. Whether positive or not is up to debate.
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I can understand that living as a pretty girl means being sensitive to sexual assault/harassment/unwarranted objectification and other things, but if we as a society allow cruel and unusual punishments to be imposed on the male behavior that stems from our sexual instincts, then we're just trading our personal freedoms for the sake of absolute safety.
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And women get to experience the downsides of the excessive #metoo witch-hunt.
Women thrive on subtlety and spontaneity, but now, even the most sexually attracted men at the top, like Henry Cavil, would do what the feminists wanted - be very cautious and safe, not flirt, not talk about sexual stuff with other women, and so on.
A typical woman's response to this is "well, if it means predators are going to stay away from us, then good! Good men won't be afraid to keep hitting on us and giving us attention".
No, that's not how it works. I'd go in detail, but nobody cares. Enjoy your safety, but remember that the minority of hyper-sensitive women made it worse for the majority of women, who otherwise aren't as sensitive and vindictive towards men when the latter do minor "misconducts" that stem from our sexual nature.
As Dave Chapelle said regarding the #metoo/feminists: "you're not gonna get far through FEAR"
sjn2203 5y ago
It will never become mainstream. Those who control the media need sheep, not woke men.
CainPrice 5y ago
The Red Pill isn't some big deal "supressed" truth. It's not really a movement.
This "movement" is maybe two steps above the incel crowd and one step below the original PUA crowd. It is a smattering of a small number of slightly below average guys who don't get it when it comes to sex and relationships coming together on the internet to figure things out.
This internet manosphere idea that most men out there in the world are duped and unhappy needs to die. Most men are just fine. Most men live normal lives, go on dates, have sex with women, get married, have decent marital sex lives and a decent marital home, don't get badly divorced, grow old, and die. Most men are not unhappy. Most men are not sexless. Most men are not used, abused, manipulated workhorses. Most men live pretty decent lives.
The below average men who get abused and shit on and have significant trouble getting dates or getting laid seem like a big deal on the internet, but are actually a small minority in the real world.
We are not on the brink, nor will we ever see, some kind of Red Pill uprising. Men, as a whole are not catching on or changing. The overwhelming majority of men are normal guys who work normal jobs, go on dates, have sex, get married, have kids, and die, and aren't mad at women or society or the government.
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ZoroasterFlame 5y ago
Don't contemporary statistics bear out that people aren't getting laid?
CainPrice 5y ago
Who are "people"? Most people have sex 1-2 times a week on the average. The people in relationships and marriages raise the average, the people not in relationships or marriages lower the average. But most people get laid.
This idea that the majority of men, while decent and average-looking and not terrible people, never, ever get laid because women hate average guys and only date a few select amazing men is an internet manosphere fantasy.
Most men get laid. Not all the time. Not with the hottest women. But often enough that they're not running to the internet in search of answers while contemplating suicide.
This idea that only a few select hot guys have casual sex at all while normal guys have absolutely no sex and no relationships is an internet idea, not a real world thing.
Normal guys get laid. Not lots and lots. But often enough.
BobbyPeru 5y ago
Marketing is perpetuating BP to a large extent. Females drive the vast majority of purchases, so naturally the media, commercials, and films are going to cater to the female imperative.
If it is to become mainstream, males will have to take over finances, which ironically is encouraged by TRP for LTR’s and marriages. So... maybe.
But white knights will always exist because there is always a percentage of the population that can’t get laid , and they think WK’ing is the way to get laid. That’s Rollo 101
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I swear the Kardashians alone have done so much damage to the younger female generations
RPSilverfox 5y ago
Knowing the truth is what sets us apart from the majority of men planning to propose to their unicorns at Christmas. Saying TRP will become mainstream is like saying everyone will become a millionaire at the same time.
TheBunBun54321 5y ago
I remember reading someone on LinkedIn mentioning the term 'Hypergamy' on some post about women. I was pretty suprised reading that.
PiDelta632 5y ago
I think we are definitely in the “good times create weak men” part of the cycle right now. Being a strong man, in this part of the cycle, has the largest benefit and worst downsides compared to any other part of the cycle OP references, in my opinion. The downsides being labeled as: a toxic masculine figure, aggressive, and as a “woman hater.” The benefits being: complete personal autonomy, overwhelming opportunity in career paths, and being a desired male partner in a society lacking strong men.
The red pill has always been a place for me to ground myself with reality. I thank everyone who supports young men, such as myself, who needed guiding direction at a critical point in their lives.
If you aren’t here to build your brothers into better men then get the fuck out of here.
Galaldriel 5y ago
Great book to back up that 'hard times' saying is 'The Fourth Turning'. It predicts a return to war after the participants in prior wars die off. Essentially that we are predisposed to war and the only thing preventing it is the memory of those that lived through the last one. Once they've died off, there is much less resistance to going to war.
jpfrana 5y ago
The red pill is mainstream, most simply lack the word to describe it as such.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
I mostly agree although I’d adjust your prediction to say that purple pill will one day be mainstream, rather than true deep red pill.
I do think it will be quite soon tho. Like by 2030 purple pill will be common sense to a lot of people. I do still think crazed feminism will continue to compete as a worldview tho. But yeah its not too far off. Young men are wising up fast.
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Agreed. Seems like things were trending towards heavy bluepill since like 2005-2010. Now it seems like men are starting to get pissed and fighting back in the past 1-3 years. I think we’re either at or close to some kind of turning point.
It’s just a natural swing of the pendelum. Once males get fed up from not being able to get pussy anymore, they’ll fight back. I honestly also think this is the reason behind mass school shootings. If any of those kids had regular pussy, they’d be a lot less upset.
FifthGoblin 5y ago
Ah yes, I am afraid of this as well. TRP will just become a watered down version of itself
LowSpecTea 5y ago
Can you give a one sentence explanation of purple pill ?
First I’m hearing of it.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
It’s defined as attempting to use red pill awareness to achieve blue pill dreams. So in other words I don’t think the idea of finding your “true love” will disappear from society, although there will be more red pill awareness regarding how to achieve those or similar ends.
LowSpecTea 5y ago
Oh I see, yeah that makes sense. That’s best for most beta men though, genuinely maintaining a bunch of plates and getting high SMV is hard work and most people’s lives are not conducive to such behavior.
But at the same
In a way it’s always kinda been there , “chicks dig jerks” but I don’t see an influx of fake jerks so to speak. Some people try but I think the super accepting groups of beta behavior might actually win out in the mainstream.
I hope not. But I’d hedge my bets on that until the world really starts going to shit in the west. People are too cozy that’s why this behavior can even profligate.
Thanks for catching me up.
IvanPetrov2 5y ago
Yes indeed. Islam is VERY red pill
KewlThanks 5y ago
I don't want it to be, but yeah.
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jwarner95 5y ago
what the fuck type of argument is it goes through cycles every 25000 years. We have data going back way further than that, it's not the cycles that are bad, it's the rate of change in this time period that's alarming.
pfote_65 5y ago
Unfortunately you have no fuckin clue about climate change. You just bought the other propaganda. There is not really a discussion in science whether it's man made or not.
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heeeytherepal 5y ago
I’m not sure you understand Moore’s law.
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I think he meant “look up Moore’s law and the argument that many have against it continuing into the future.” Since he was implying the opinion that AI will not take over or automate our jobs.
But even then, he’s still wrong with that assumption. The potential for advancement and scale of AI software is not dependent on physical hardware at all (ie. the # of transistors on a board). It’s dependent on efficient design of complex algorithms and software. Hardware will definitely not be a bottleneck for AI programming.
_ramu_ 5y ago
Besides that, there is currently research on running neuronal networks on quantum computers, i.e. it is not a fact that A.I. is bound to be run on silicon only.