Synopsis: Mind fucks
Body: Some smartphones (most notably Apple IPhone's Imessage) allow you to show the other party when you've read their message. TURN THIS ON. Easiest dread game, I've had two girls call me out on not responding to texts when I've clearly read them, putting them in my frame and showing that they (to a certain extent) care. It's infuriating knowing that someone's read your text but refuses to respond, and guarantees you'll be on their mind longer than otherwise.
Conclusion: Turn on 'Read Receipts'.
wehadtosaydickety 9y ago
I don't like this because it makes the dread intentional. The point of not responding is that you're actually too busy to read it. It adds more mystery. If she knows you're glued to your phone 24x7 it seems like you're being a dick or trying too hard. Ymmv
beginner_ 9y ago
Agree. But still turn it on to show you actually have not read it. Leave your phone in the gyms locker.
I work in an office building. I always leave my phone in my office if I leave it. When I come back I might or might not check the phone. I think this is perfect. Sometimes you reply after hours, sometimes after 5 minutes. It shows you are often busy an not actually playing games. You are answering when you have time.
recursoinominado 9y ago
Maybe you are just busy to answer her. That's dread game right there, she isn't your priority.
[deleted] 9y ago
Totally agree. Don't pretend. Be.
circlhat 9y ago
He is not pretending, I read text instantly on my phone because it shows up on screen although I respond 2-3 hours later because I'm actually working and have a life.
Now life is not FAIR , so me missing out on love because I read a text to fast and didn't imply dread game correctly seems silly but that's the way it works.
While this is very simple game its highly effective if used properly
HalfysReddit 9y ago
In other words, instead of pretending to have an interesting life where you do things, actually have an interesting life and do things.
anticommon 9y ago
This also helps later on when you may want to eventually do things with her.
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Rusty_Sparx 9y ago
Not true. I can go days without reading a text message, from a 2011 Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader. She's all fluff. Her sister told me I'm terrible about responding to text messages.
Virtualization_Freak 9y ago
Shit... I've not read my phone for DAYS at a time. I'm even in IT. Out of the state, with no easy way to make it back before Monday? I'll sort those messages out when I get back.
It's not about being too busy. It's about not needing to read them.
[deleted] 9y ago
you think the president checks his own phone throughout the day?
it's hard to understand because here we all are on reddit for crying out loud, but if you're a baller, you're too busy to check your phone all day. No more than once every few hours at a maximum.
when you get a text from her, the next time you check your phone - say, 3-4 hours later (and 3-4 hours of her not getting a read receipt), respond with "hey I'm really busy right now, but I want to find some time to talk to you later." It's considerate and polite, which is what a man should be, but underscores how important your life is and how busy you are with the many important things you are doing, and how she is only somewhat important, and not nearly important enough to drop what you are doing.
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Gawernator 9y ago
Agree with this. You're either too busy to be on your phone or you're not. If you have time to go read through texts then you have the 2-5 seconds required to reply. Jeez. Leaving read receipt off gives you more mystery and keeps her hamster spinning. If you keep reading her/someone's messages and just don't respond, you just look like a dick.
..... now I have read receipts turned on
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TheCasualists 9y ago
Wouldn't it be better to turn it off. So even if you do read it straight away and don't respond for a few hours she doesn't know.
[deleted] 9y ago
This is the most pickup thing I've seen on here.
ShekelBanker 9y ago
Well shit, on my BB Passport I can Confirm Read only MMS :/
JackGoldsteinWrites 9y ago
Have had it on since the feature was available. Great post.
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i_took_two_red_pills 9y ago
A word of advise though. If you're not too confident in your self yet i.e. a freshly red-pilled guy, then don't. I've seen so many guys go nuts with over thinking why she hasn't replied yet.
Trpbrother 9y ago
OP is talking about turning on a setting where they can see that you've read their messages, not the other way around.
rave_n 9y ago
That is (at least on iPhones) not possible. When you turn on "read receipts" it enables both you and everyone else to see if a message has been read. If you turn it off, no-one will get a receipt.
NihilDicoAmplius 9y ago
Also true on Android. It is both ways. Either you disable read receipts, then they won't see if a message is read but you won't see either or you turn them on then both parties will be notified of message status.
trpdgc 9y ago
False. This is a personal setting with global effects. If you have it off, you can still see read receipts for people that have it on, and if you have it on you'll only see it for people that also have it on.
rave_n 9y ago
Well, I have no idea about your phone but sure as hell I can't get these receipts when I turned it off for messages that I sent.
Praecipuus 9y ago
This is some good advice, right here. When the read receipt notifications first were introduced with whatsapp, everyone was flipping their shit about "Imma turn that shit off because privacy and bla bla". This is one of the best tools that have been given to anyone who is familiar with dread 101.
Not only does this show you read their text, didn't care and thus didn't reply, but it also shows you don't even care enough to hide that fact from them.
Cum_on_doorknob 9y ago
Last part, for sure. Whenever I see people with read receipt off, I assume they are afraid of looking needy. Instant give away that they are self conscious and trying to hide neediness.
babyface97 9y ago
This is totally true, it's a powerful mind trick. Recently it has giving me excellent results. Note: Is to show yo don't care, it doesn't have to be you being a dick. Use it wisely
GraphicSeniorNudity 9y ago
This is accomplished without read receipts and looking needy.
Not responding already accomplishes this. She sent it, now let her wonder if you read it, or if you're doing something more interesting than talking to her. If she gets a read receipt right when she sends it and you don't reply for 3 hours it kills that illusion.
coop_dogg 9y ago
IMO it's a pretty petty way to show not caring. I'd rather just not read it and only reply if it's important.
bigcitytruth 9y ago
Unless you have AMAZING phone discipline (and let's be honest here, most of you young kids don't), I say turn off read-receipts.
Why? Because it conveys how long you waited to actually read the texts. This completely spoils your poker face, and telegraphs that you aren't doing anything interesting because your dorky-ass picked up your phone 5 seconds after she texted. The only way read-receipts will work is if you actually don't read it for a number of hours, which means you're out doing something interesting, which is a sign of high SMV.
I find having it turned off adds even more dread, as the woman has no idea if you read it or not, which adds an extra layer of uncertainty. She'll maybe assume you saw it and didn't reply, so she's uneasy. Or she'll assume you're busy with another woman, so busy you weren't able to touch your phone, which is even worse for her. The "not knowing" aspect will drive her more crazy than seeing a read receipt.
tddaygame 9y ago
I'd advise against it. At least on Android when a girl sends me a message with 'Read Receipt' (or whatever is the equivalent) I've got a nasty popup asking whether I want to send the confirmation or not. It will look needy as hell if those popups would show on her phone with after every message from you. Oh and also there is no option to send those receipts without the other party requesting them so the whole issue is irrelevant after all.
It might be just Samsung phones but hey, it’s the most popular brand.
[deleted] 9y ago
Totally agree. If she sees you read your text message withing 37 seconds of her sending it, how much tension are you really adding for not responding for an hour? Will she think you spent all that time crafting your reply? A true alpha doesn't "draft" messages.
Maybe there's something to the read receipt thing, but it's a clear positive for most guys.
DeathDealer8 9y ago
Its not that she thinks you're drafting a message, moreso that she thinks you're ignoring her. If you wait an hour or 2 after she sees you've read it it works wonders.
l0ng_time_lurker 9y ago
I don´t use read-receipts - it fosters a passive-aggressive mindset and is not outcome-independent...
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PROVERBIALLEMONADE 9y ago
This does work. I'm glad you made a post about it because I was about to soon.
rebuildingMyself 9y ago
I've been doing this with WhatsApp since forever. Especially if I'm punishing my LTR for her bitchy behavior. Radio silence, she's free to send walls of text, and she's also free to know that I've read them.
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Here are some rules of thumb I go by:
[deleted] 9y ago
Or if you have snap chat just post a snap story of you doing something cool and interesting. It not only does the same thing but shows abundance mentality as you are clearly a man out to kick ass and take names.
Ishazak 9y ago
Shame i have phone with a terrible camera then. time to save some cash!
[deleted] 9y ago
Obviously this is more effective, but if you have a life where you can, on command, produce a snap chat story with you doing cool and interesting things, then doing this for the sake of one woman is probably a waste of time.
sodainthewatercup6 9y ago
And now you broach the catch-22 of TRP and the like. Most who don't have the time aren't surfing around in the manosphere because they're too busy wrecking shit.
[deleted] 9y ago
Everything I post on snap chat I would post regardless of the girl situation. I don't do fb or twitter, just snap chat cause only my actual friends and girls follow me. Another nice thing is that it works both ways. If a girl doesn't text me back, I show that I am living my life and really don't give a fuck that she hasn't texted me back. Sometimes they text me back and I can continue to lay game and sometimes they don't and they get nexted, either way I win.
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I mean yeah, that's the point of abundance mentality.
Tamazin_ 9y ago
I would advise otherwise. If you have it turned on, they KNOW you've read it and you suddenly stopped replying at ~10pm on a friday evening when you're out at a bar and was going to meet up later. So they more or less KNOW you've gotten some chick to come suck your weiner or whatever. I prefer to have it on off because then i MIGHT'VE gotten someone hooked for the evening or maybe i just haven't read it yet; THAT is mindgames.
"Why haven't he replied yet, he always replies fast, or maybe he hasn't read it yet, or maybe he has and have decided not to reply yet, or maybe he got some more fit/sexier girl or maybe maybe maybe"
vs
"Oh he's read it but hasn't replied, what is he up to? He always replies kinda fast".
The less they know and the more they have to guess the more they think about you.
refusewool 9y ago
If the receipts are turned on and they 'know' you're getting laid then that's preselection. If they're off then you've produced an air of mystery. Both options have their advantages. I think it just comes down to the user's individual style.
HalfysReddit 9y ago
Holy shit this is way over-thinking it.
notgivefuck 9y ago
why does this have so many up votes this is terrible advice for so many reasons already pointed out..
the99percent1 9y ago
turn on read receipts and last seen
[deleted] 9y ago
Good little trick here. Manipulative? Sure. Still not half as bad as the shit she's trying to do to you (and succeeding with the blue pill guys out there).