Introduction
I recently made a post discussing the Pareto Principle and how easy it really was to get into the top 20%. Many denied some of the aspects of pareto and reproduction, though it is likely very accurate given our evolutionary history. This is also part field report, it's very entertaining.
Today, I find out that 80% of men are rated below average in attractiveness.
Same day, I get a gory example of AF/BB from the girl I posted about in my last FR.
The Data
https://www.yourtango.com/2016285828/women-find-80-percent-men-unattractive-says-crazy-study
This data is derived from OKCupid, so take it with a grain of salt, but it says exactly what I was talking about in my previous post. 80% of men are rated as "below average", while the top 20% are rated as "above average". If you ever wanted evidence that shows how little a woman cares about the weak and the pathetic, here it is. Hitting the top-20 makes you average in her eyes. Average. Good enough to consider fucking regardless of how attractive she actually is.
That means if you want to get laid anywhere near consistently, you need to step up your game and get your shit in order. Women do not entertain fools when it comes down to whom they want to get dicked down by.
What You Are
You are nothing more than a piece of physical aesthetics conveying superior genetic material, or a resource to be used and discarded, to her subconscious. The sooner you get that into your thick skull, the sooner you'll be on your way to excellence. I was recently privy to a conversation with a chick that wanted my commitment and tried to play the jealousy card along with a few other shit tests.
Today, she is talking about how hard it is for her to find "stability" (her meaning was "monogamous", but we know it's: beta bucks), and that she keeps thinking she knows what she wants but is still clueless (as she wants the provision from Billy beta, but the cock of Chad). I find out, that a she's been entertaining this 40-year old dude who just got a divorce, and she's been fucking him on the side as well, and she's trying to debate picking one of these two guys to "start a relationship with" and ends up picking the rich, recently divorced, 40-year old, because "the other guy makes more logical sense, but I don't want to settle down."
Yeah, you want a BB while you can keep fucking alpha cock. I get it. Poor thing, I get it.
That's what we are, either BB and made to provision for the children of other men, or the AF, the men women truly want.
Which will you be?
tempolaca 5y ago
Please consider that the average girl that is in OkCupid is quite biased to consider primarily looks. In general, you won't find nice girls in online dating sities, good girls don't need them.
BTW I'm a "recently divoced 40 year old" not even 20%, but I go to the gym (once a week) and have my hair. Can't believe the level of attraction girls feel for me. It's uncanny, I look at the mirror and find myself quite ugly to be honest. But it's true, peak SMV is at 35-45.
Trenned_out 5y ago
"girls" now I'm not trying to be a dick but my first question here is, are 20 something girls finding you attractive or are we talked used up old bitches?
Because I think alot of times the whole "peak SMV" thing gets touted as an automatic light at the end of the tunnel. Of course your SMV is much higher than women within, say roughly 5 years of your age, but what about the actual desirable women?
I mean I suppose its not black or white, that if your smv at 40 is higher than at 30, it will be easier to game say a 7/10 28 year old. If the girl is constant the higher your SMV goes the easier it'll be.
I'm starting to ramble now, but geniuinely curious about the age group here.
tempolaca 5y ago
Small sample:
The 22 and 31 yo girls talked terribly shit about me, some of them directly dangerous lies (That I stalked them, abused them, etc.) both were in my social circle. Mind you, the 31 year old was crazy in love with me, obsessed at times. She went from love to hate in a couple days.
The crazy 45 year old girl surprisingly was low drama. The 27 year old was zero drama. None of those two girls were in my social circle.
BTW I'm 40 yo now.
Trenned_out 5y ago
Very interesting, and tbh fairly hopeful for my future based on the age range. I have a 51 year old uncle who regularly smashes 22-30 year old girls. Wasn't sure how realistic it was because he is an anomoly in many ways. I mean I have good game but fuck he makes me look introverted haha.
If you wouldnt mind, I'm also very curious for a brief description of how you met these girls?
tempolaca 5y ago
22 yo -> twitter
27 yo -> college
31 yo -> was my lawyer, lol
45 yo -> coworker
Trenned_out 5y ago
Gotta go with, you give me hope for when I'm 40 trying to smash 20 somethings lol.
Just have come to the conclusion by (nearly) 26, that LTR's do have some great benefits in the right scenario... But in the true long term, it's never worth it how almost ALL women today treat you after a certain amount of time.
Example my 51 year old player uncle sometimes thinks he should have married a girl that was 19 when he was 25 he dated for a few years... On one hadn I see that, girl was a true smokeshow and seemed to worship him. however shes now 45 and hes consistently banging girls in their 20s lmao. On one hand of course a random bang isnt as good as a real connection (as fleeting as they are) but also, I'd rather find that real connection that I CHOOSE to lock down at 50 when shes 25 than, when I'm 25 and missout on a a fucking quarter century of experiences and memories dating, moving allover the country and achiving career goals that would have been unlikely with most significant others.
I'm fairly drunk so I hope that was coherent but anyway good posts brother.
tempolaca 5y ago
Yes I think age is not all.
The biggest connection I had was with the 31 yo girl, she was rapidly approaching the wall and was infertile so couldn't form a family with her but was the best LTR I had.
The 22 yo was a smokeshow that looked like she was 14, but there was no way I or anybody could ever LTR that. Way too crazy. So, age is not all. I concur the 45 year old girl had a great body for her age, but no contest with the others.
Trenned_out 5y ago
I agree age is not all. It is an important factor and you seemed like you could offer perspective on it given your situation.
Thanks for the insight though, interesting you basically had 3 women each at the different phase in the lifecycle of modern women. Peak years, the wall, post wall
Shaman6624 5y ago
Exactly this was also my critique of this study.
tchower 5y ago
As a 26 year old, I’m very glad to read this! So much to do and learn in life!
novalentineforyou 5y ago
If you are in America, it helps a lot if you've kept a healthy weight and lifestyle your entire life (not overweight, walk or exercise every day, eat nutritious food). That automatically puts you in the top 20-30% of middle aged men based on what I've seen.
tempolaca 5y ago
I not from america so I've never been more than 2-3kg overweight. No matter what I eat.
I don't know how Americans get so fat. There is some kind of poison in their food. I suspect it's the corn.
Ansec 5y ago
It's not what you eat, it's how much you eat. People in america eat a shit ton of food. They eat out a lot. A bagel in the morning with cream cheese 600 calories, a meal at McDonald's 900-1200 calories with a soda, then dinner and a few beers another 900-1200 calories. That's nearing 3000 calories. That mixed with an office job, sitting for 8 hours and no exercise, you have a compound effect over 20 years. That person will be obese and that's your average person.
People will say no man, it's the carbs, or it's the meat. No it's simple the amount of food people shovel in their face every day.
zestytacoz 5y ago
Portion sizes are out of control (big gulps full of soda are not a meme), lack of exercise (nobody walks anywhere except in certain cities), nobody knows just how many calories are in anything, and a lack of education on nutrition (even in those otherwise highly educated).
tempolaca 5y ago
Portion sizes are big in many other places. Here in south america we eat lots of meat, and pizza, and everything. That doesn't make us fat. And we also have cars, you know, we don't exercise. But fat people are rare, even very rare. It's something in your food. I've been in the US and portion sizes are big, but not huge. I could finish almost all meals there.
novalentineforyou 5y ago
(Almost literally) no exercise and all the processed food is high in calories and easier to buy than cooking food normally.
Menchstick 5y ago
The only places where they don't put salt and butter are water and their assholes.
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maverick9759 5y ago
Think about this though, how would you define an average looking man ? Not too muscular neither skinny/fat. Not too handsome but an okay decent face with some average style.
Now if you compare men against this hypothetical average man, the number of men of this level of SMV will NOT BE 50% .. they will be 20%
This hypothetical average man is what women say when they mean average however we take it as 50th percentile.
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Loze1 5y ago
I'm working on becoming a top 20% man. It's a challenge in those third world country I live in. I'm pretty sure if I can do it here, it'll be possible anywhere.
My crush got snagged by guy that drives a car worth 6 figures here. I ain't got anything going for me right now, can't even dream to smash.
Only thing I can say I do have is animal ambition and the determination to accomplish bigger goals than just fucking a woman.
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deadsandsushi2 5y ago
You sound jealous that the woman didn't want you.