Miranda Kerr.... The pinnacle of Gold Digger in a post modernized feminist reality. This is the by product of the society we live in, and it's high level game by Kerr, but if every women had her sex appeal, seduction skill, and image they would do the same thing. Without hesitation or remorse. AWALT at its' finest.
So I assume unless you've been living under a rock, you know about Orlando Bloom and his former wife (Kerr's) relationship and divorce and why they divorced. But if not, I'll give you a run down, Bloom and Kerr were married and considered a high level celebrity couple both in terms of looks and purchasing power/fame. However, as Kerr gave birth to their son and then re-entered being a Victoria Secret Angel things began to change for poor ole' Legolas. She began going out with friends (Oh, how cliché Ladies Night, AKA looking for Chad. Rich, famous and beautiful women do the same things, lol. They're all alike). Flirting with rock stars, pop stars, other actors and all sorts of shit. But... As a BB and "Safe guy" Orlando ignored it. Cause he's a "nice guy".
Until...... The Biebs. After the Victoria Secret show in 2013, I believe it was, it was leaked that Justin Bieber hooked up with Kerr in a hotel after the show and they fucked and sucked all night. He was the "bad boy" that Kerr's kitty yearned for... Even at just a manlet 5"7', Bieber slayed Kerr and strung her along (Like a true player and boss would) for the months to come.
Well it boiled over and Bloom later confronted Bieber on a yacht or some such, and they pushed, yelled and screamed over Kerr. Like feminist society brainwashed males have been taught, to fight over the pussy on the pedestal, even if she's a skank.
Anyway's they divorced and seemingly yet another broken home was created because of a womans vagina getting wet for another dude. The relationship was over and Bloom went into depression and began drinking heavily, (noted that sometimes on set of the Hobbit bloom would be kinda "buzzed". Poor fucker. Another talented and strong man brought down by a sociopathic woman). Bloom was sad and began partying and drinking heavily, like many betrayed husbands do.
However, on the flip side Kerr was living the life. Freedom and her new SEVEN MILLION DOLLAR contract for modeling, and of course full custody of the child. Of course, cause it's always good to put the child with the cheating parent, they have such good values right (no consequences for poor behavior by women at it's finest). Her instagram account blew up and she became somewhat more famous than she had been with Bloom.
But the Tale of Kerr the Ultimate, only begins here. Being the Gold Digging, material driven slut she is (AWALT) she began doing what any chick would.
Banging Billionaires.
First she started dating the Six Foot Six, brute of a man the Billionaire and sex fiend Casino Mogul James Packer. Packer is notoriously aggressive and a party animal. He also was married to a former model, knocked her up a few times, then divorced her. Kerr and him were "seeing" AKA having an affair, months before the divorce was finalized... Classic Alpha Chad behavior. Packer is pure alpha. But the media likes to picture all the cheating females as having to "struggle" and having it "hard" so they said that the root of the relationship was that Packer gave Kerr "Advice" on her company KORA Organics... Yeah, he gave her "Advice" alright, in the form of a 9 incher and tons of testosterone and money. The only true "Advice" females ever want from men. Again, say it with me. All Women Are Like That.
Well, dating Super Chad Billionaire Thunder Cock is exhausting, the 5 hour fuck sessions and Packer's overall brutishness wore Kerr out. So she moved on.
To....
ANOTHER BILLIONAIRE (Give this Girl some credit, she's got mad game and knows it). This time to a younger, nerdier and more subdued one. A pure beta, but a beta that has massive attraction because... Of THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, lol. Evan Spiegel the 25 year old CEO and owner of SnapChat. He's Kerr's new sugar daddy, and she's approaching the dreaded 35 years old number than women dread. So she's suckered in her next ride.
Lessons learned gents, no matter what, AWALT. Rich, famous, models whatever, they're all the same. It's always more, more, more. They need a Chad and they need a bad boy. Then they need the BB.
side note, Kerr and Bloom live right down the street from each other.... Bloom gets to see all the dudes and billionaires Kerr bangs in person... My God, ultimate cucking. Kerr is evil.
And... AWALT.
-Universe- 9y ago
Good post. She's also a criminal's ex: http://www.news.com.au/national/miranda-kerrs-ex-adrian-camilleri-in-court/story-e6frfkwi-1225716084479
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Although I agree with the general point of your post (AWALT and if a woman had the power like Kerr, this is what may happen), There's a few things in this post that I disagree with.
First, yes Kerr had red flags partying and going out, but Bloom couldn't really do anything about it. The only thing he could've done was work on increasing his own SMV. this is the point I wanna drive home -- TRP is truth and there's nothing we can do about it, but accept it and exploit it by consistently increasing our SMV, by making sure we're not the BB in a relationship.
Second, you seem to victimise men, saying that poor old Bloom was the victim of a sociopathic woman. But aren't all women hard wired to a certain extent to be this way? Is it really anyone's fault that nature is this way? You can choose to accept it, in fact this is what this sub advocates. But if we're gonna turn the tables and victimise ourselves, we're not that different than the feminists out there.
Long story short, I don't think it's anyone's fault. This is the way things are. If a woman was given the power like Kerr, this is inevitably what will happen. The only way we can deal with this is by constantly increasing our SMV to exploit this system, not by victimising ourselves.
squirtmasterd 9y ago
How is this shit celebrity gossip getting uploaded?! Fucking hell.
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How is she a model? She has negative ass on the booty scale.
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This is the kind of absurd, unhinged rant that people cite when they want to sling mud at The Red Pill.
mikesteane 9y ago
I do not live under a rock, but I do not know anything about this because I have better things to do with my limited attention band-width than spending any of it on this kind of celebrity culture.
Sdom1 9y ago
To the guys describing any of the men in this example as beta - you are hilarious! Seriously. Bieber, Bloom, Packer, and Spiegel are all exemplars of alpha males. Any one of them could go into any venue with you or me or anyone on this board and girls wouldn't pay one bit of attention to us.
The fact that any of us would describe these guys as beta goes back to the general confusement of terms that some have here. An alpha male needs perhaps a better definition than we've given it. This isn't even an example of hypergamy so much as it is an example of women's childlike nature. Say whatever you want, Miranda Kerr's options are nearly unlimited, and when she gets bored with one guy, she goes on to the next. That's all it is.
Spiegel: I could argue he's extremely alpha, especially if you go by a classical definition of an alpha in nature, which is a leader with high social position and resources. The founder and CEO of a successful company with hundreds or thousands of employees and billionaire checks all those boxes twice.
Bloom: An exceptionally good looking world famous actor who is also wealthy? Yeah, sure, beta, whatever you gotta tell yourself so you can sleep at night.
Bloom was broken up about Kerr's scandalous behavior, yeah, but he had the right to be. They had just had a child together and were married and she stepped out on him with a total shitbag who also happens to be extremely famous, which meant it was sure to be found out and embarrass the shit out of him.
Bieber: As much as I hate him, he's alpha. Good looking, tons of money, world famous. He doesn't have to beat you up, he can snap his fingers and he has 5 brutes to do it for him.
Packer: OP, the way you described this guy, it's like you want to be the one riding his dick. He's wealthy, a leader, famous, just like the rest, and he got left just like the rest.
KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
Remember, according to Rollo Tomassi of therationalmale.com, alpha is a mindset. Bloom - or anyone else - can have all the accoutrements of alpha, but lacking the right mindset, can easily fall to oneitis, lose frame, fail shit-tests, etc.
Being ripped, tall, rich, good-looking might get you the ONS, but does not guarantee an LTR. Passing shit-tests requires frame and Game.
Sdom1 9y ago
I think he's wrong. What you describe are relationship skills. Again, they are a piece of the puzzle, and it always helps to have them, but doesn't make you alpha per se.
You can have all those things on point and you would probably fail 100 times out of 100 to pull a girl over Bloom. Alpha in its true form denotes POWER, control over your environment, and the ability to sire healthy, capable offspring. That is how and why relationship skills enter into the equation - not because they in and of themselves make you alpha, but because power makes you alpha, and those skills increase your power in human society.
Example - the biggest, baddest male lion in the pride is the alpha, but that's because that is the only way a male lion can gain and exert power, by beating ass or threatening to beat ass. He can't convince other lions to do it for him, as they aren't on that level intellectually or socially.
KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
Human sexual strategy and feline sexual strategy are profoundly different. Human females have concealed estrus, for one thing.
tl;dr you're comparing apples to oranges.
Sdom1 9y ago
This made zero sense. Your completely missed my point, and even granting that, your answer is still idiotic. You even used tl;dr wrong.
InscrutablePUA 9y ago
Alpha status doesn't depend only on wealth, fame, money, and looks. It's also about MASCULINITY as expressed physically (size, strength, jawline/forehead) and emotionally (stoic, DGAF attitude, maybe even dark triad). See, despite all their advantages, these men don't exude masculinity (Bieber and Bloom). They don't have the physical presence of a James Packer and despite their wealth, may be just as beta around women as Joe down the street. Clearly, Orlando Bloom showed that.
Sdom1 9y ago
She left Packer too, and she's obviously not selecting cro-magnon types for the most part. Again, the things you're keying in on are only one part of the equation.
You can be the most masculine featured, emotionally stoic gas station attendant in the world, but that doesn't make you alpha per se. Alpha denotes power. You might be a big fish in your tiny little puddle, but in the ocean you're just a minnow.
These guys are like great whites by comparison. Again, any one of these guys could AMOG you at will, in any way they want. Trying to AMOG them would be like trying to wrestle a gorilla - a fool's errand.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
With the exception of Bloom, all these guys are UGLY! I mean Bieber looks more like a chick. And this is coming from a bisexual man, so I really know what a physically attractive male looks like.
I WOULD NOT FUCK PACKER NOR THE NERD BOY BILLIONAIRE IF THEY WERE THE LAST MEN ON EARTH. I'D JUST GET IT ON WITH MY HAND AND PORNHUB.
But yeah, Bloom is a good looking man, I've always thought so. I'd hit it.
I might let that manlet give me head
maybe
MattyAnon Admin 9y ago
err... no. You only know what a physically attractive male looks like to you and possibly to bisexual men. You cannot speak for women. (Not that they can speak for themselves with any credibility either)
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GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
Nope. They are tho. I mean, Packer looks like a Hog and has fucked up teeth and weird ears. And Spiegel is pale, skinny and kinda looks like a normal looking dude. Nothing special.
Bloom is good looking. Obviously, his whole career and livelihood is based on how he looks and if he has sex appeal. Which he does. Although... He does look older and more tired. But hey, having your heart ripped out my cheating whore will do that to ya.
Sdom1 9y ago
You're a man. You evaluate everyone primarily and perhaps solely on physical attractiveness. Gay and bi men are even more looks obsessed than straight men.
But for women, that's only one piece of the puzzle. Notice I didn't talk about every one of them in terms of their attractiveness. What's more important for women is the man's overall position in society's hierarchy. Appearance is only one piece of that, and not the most important one.
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PenInACup 9y ago
Your not into trp obviously.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
You're
You see, your implies ownership as it's a possessive.
Do I own not??
I think not. The correct phrase would be, you're not into trp obviously. As you're is a contraction of you are. GG.
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suddenlytrp 9y ago
SMV doesn't revolve only around looks, nor only around body type and general level of fitness. Successful and loaded trump a lot of factors, sad but true.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
Oh yeah, I know for women this is mostly true.
I've only been with 5 men in my life and over 2 dozen women including being engaged last year, but.... Cheating whore and to the curb she went, lol.
Anyway's, when I "size up" a man.... I always pretty much only assess if they're good looking and sexy. I don't like short manlets, I prefer taller men, cause I'm tall. I like good looking, in shape men. I don't want some fat face or some dude that has a receding hairline, I like goodlooking features. I guess, my attraction toward men is lot what women find PHYSICALLY attractive, (I guess I'm like a chick in that way, lol) in men. And then I look for if they're cool and like the things I like.
Money, cars, ability to earn and overall socioeconomic viability have nothing to do for me when I date a man. Nope. It's all about physical and emotional connection. I mean, I guess I'd want them to have a job, lol. Cause I'm not paying for the dates and shit all the time. Fuck no. I don't even do that for chicks, no way am I doing that for man, lol. Get a job mother fucker!
But.... I'm a man.
And men, are easier in some ways to date than women. But in other way's they're way more difficult. Cause it's difficult to Bullshit a man. Cause you know... They're men lol.
suddenlytrp 9y ago
Very unique perspective with you being bisexual. In fact, that's a pretty telling thing that you separate money/power from looks/physique. I would say you are very UNLIKE what a woman looks for, or at least most of the women I see at my age, post wall (30-35+.)
I would think as a man seeking another man, it would be many, many times easier, but I honestly don't know. At any rate, thanks for the perspective.
ECoast_Man 9y ago
I'm thinking Spiegel knows what's up. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. Let's wait this out before passing judgment. She must be a plate for all we know.
skoobled 9y ago
Hmmm doubtful. If I was a high profile billionaire wanting to plate a high profile model on that down low, I could be choppering her in and out under cover of darkness or some shit. They go out in public and get Papped. Jus sayin
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Kerr is not evil. You wouldn't call a hurricane "evil." It's just the nature of things.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
Alright. I mean, kinda point taken. But... I mean, she lives down the street for a reason. And it's not for "the benefit of the child" or some bullshit like that. These rich people have nanny's that raise their children. The still remaining in eye sight is a direct psychological attack on Bloom. She's a typical entitled, beautiful, calculating and vindictive woman.
But I guess you're correct she's not evil, I mean that's probably a strong word. I agree. Mean and cunty is probably better description.
RemyPrice 9y ago
Jesus Christ, you're just full of assumptions and your own internal stories.
please stop
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IronMeltsinmyHands 9y ago
I had no idea the biebs banged Kerr.
The dude has got some tight game. Even though he looks like Ellen.
Squeezymypenisy 9y ago
I think ellen is going for the butch lesbian look, so in all fairness she is copying bieber.
RP-on-AF1 9y ago
Don't need game when you're rich with social proof. I bet his game is shit.
secretlyhigh 9y ago
Beibs has tight game. This is when he was like 2 1/2 y.o. Watch at 5:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sncoq0SpBqk
This guy was lightyears ahead of his peers. Don't just have uninformed opinions. His interviews on chelsea lately esp, he uses quite a few of the laws of power naturally.
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InscrutablePUA 9y ago
His game IS his money/social proof/looks
alphabeta49 9y ago
We'd all have "tight game" if we were as
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dude, beiber is a talented little shit. He plays the flute, trumpet, drums, piano, and the guitar. He sings and he dances. He is a little ecto hardgainer but hes doing the best he can. his talent made him rich.
alphabeta49 9y ago
I can sing circles around the kid, and it does nothing for my sex life. I didn't say he wasn't talented. But talent isn't his game, money and fame is.
rundownweather 9y ago
Playing a badass elf that gets cucked for a dwarf with a pretty face, and then having to come home to a wife that cucks you for a manlet with a pretty face. No wonder the guy started drinking.
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MattyAnon Admin 9y ago
Screening for what? AWALT. You find me a virgin woman who wants to settle down with a solid marriage and a healthy male-oriented prenup, raise kids and never cheat, being loyal and supportive to her husband... find me that, and I'll show you my pet unicorn. That's not a pony with a carrot stuck to its head, honest.
AWALT. No point looking for red flags, they're always there. The only thing to look for is "can I control this situation, can I get out as easily as I get in, is she at least moderately trustworthy and not going to get all stalker on me and call the cops on me later and can I fuck other women and keep my options open so I don't get totally fucking screwed by this situation".
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MattyAnon Admin 9y ago
Let's suggest that there is such a woman out there who believes in loyalty, not being hypergamous, non manipulative, is supportive of me, and will remain supersexual throughout our exclusive LTR. Let's suggest that this unicorn is 1 in 100 of women. Let's further speculate that the other 99% of women are dishonest and manipulative (this is less of a stretch). That means that when I meet Miss Unicorn, there is a 1% chance she's a real unicorn and a 99% chance she's your standard AWALT who is lying about the horn in the middle of her forehead and really it's a piece of rolled up tissuepaper and those rainbow sparkles coming out of her ass turn out to be the same farts as all the other girls.
No way can you screen out the dishonest ones. You just can't tell. Women can fake it too well, for fucking decades. You don't know how a woman will behave in a LTR until you're in it with her, same for marriage, same for commitment.
No thanks. A much better plan is: keep my options open, be ready to walk away, assume AWALT, always have a reserve option, never trust any woman, etc. This plan is 99% likely to work rather than 99% likely to fail.
It backfires when she says she's curious about all the dick she missed out on (happens - I know one woman who arranged to be able to get strange dick on the side because of this, while the husband wasn't allowed to, because he'd already done that).
However low partner count is correlated with lower divorce stats. Always follow the data :)
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MattyAnon Admin 9y ago
Ah, no. While it's comforting to blame men for female behaviour (because we like control and responsibility), the fact is that female behaviour is exactly as described in TRP. Not just with me, not just with us, but everywhere around us. It's stark when you see it.
No, they don't. AWALT. There are no unicorns.
No, RP awareness means accepting there are no unicorns. The fairytale is over. A loyal woman? Don't make me laugh, she will pretend to be as loyal as long as it fits her best interests. In other words, it's all either hot sex or transactional interactions. The genuine stuff you talk about doesn't exist, and you need to accept that.
Kill your happily ever after dream, because that's the dream that ends up with you drunk in a gutter contemplating suicide and wondering where you went wrong with the perfect woman who left you and took all your money and your kids.
Don't give me the purple pill shit of "Marriages is just TRP on hard mode, and if I maintain frame and don't show too much emotion, she'll respond by putting on her unicorn cosplay outfit".
As I said originally.... 99% chance she's faking it, and I'm not convinced that the 1% good women even exist. Either way, not worth the 99:1 odds.
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MattyAnon Admin 9y ago
See that's the thing. You feel that this is the case right now. But it changes. It always changes. You don't know how you'll feel at age 35 and you won't do until you are 35. You're almost certainly in the first three years of "New Relationship Energy". After that, you'll start to see your current partner as less interesting, less exciting, less new. You'll wonder if you can do better.
And along with your boredom going up, your resentment goes up, your demands go up, your boredom goes up, and so on. Gradually his needs seem less important. Marriage and kids suddenly become the only things that matter. Gratitude goes down. Things will become all about locking down those beta bucks. Either with this guy, or another.
This is how it goes with the vast majority of people, men and women although we focus on female behaviour here obviously. The difference being that men tend to be more loyal and have more to lose from breaking up. Also, everyone knows what men are like, whereas women are represented as pedastalised angels that they most certainly are not. TRP says it like it is in this regard.
My point is this: you cannot predict how you will feel in the future, but it is statistically likely you will feel as above. You are very unlikely to be a unicorn. Most likely you are a girl in the heady throes of New Relationship Energy, and will try to lock down your mate before that fades. This is the program. This is how it goes. This is what we hate.
Maybe you're living in a made up fantasy land in which you are loyal, decent and supportive. I'm sure you are now. I'm quite certain you won't be in 5 or 10 years time.
You don't know it exists. You believe Not All Women Are Like That because you are one, and you don't know yourself. You think you're loyal. But you're not. You think you'll behave differently to how the Red Pill says you'll act. But you'll follow the script. Everyone does. Just wait.
This is not from your experience at all. You have not experienced 20 years of marriage. Your loyalty has not been tested. You claim "experience", but really it's all just speculation based on how you feel right now.
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Upvote_To_The_Left 9y ago
why do we assume this guy is alpha, that guy is beta, etc etc. Do you know these people? All you know is what you read. Just because a guy is tall and parties does not make him "alpha" nor a nerdy guy beta.
and fuck Miranda Kerr, I couldn't give two shits about her or what she does.
NidStyles 9y ago
Dude reads gossip magazines, isn't it obvious he's stuck on that mentality where all things have no context?
tortilla_tanplana 9y ago
It is totally despicable for a woman to behave this way! And yet somehow it is admirable for the man Packer to act the way he does? This sub has opened up my eyes to a lot of things, but Jesus Christ the hypocrisy is nauseating.
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bacdafucoff 9y ago
What exactly is there to learn from this post? It feels like I'm talking to my wife about her mindless gossip sites.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
Another married loser who lives in quiet desperation I see.
I don't know man, um... I thought I made the point of why this example was used. But I guess... You know, you're free to go anytime man. I'm not your wife, it's not like I can tell you not to leave or tell you to go to your "man" cave. I mean, I'm not gonna cheat on you with chad and take half your stuff, or force my mother on you or have you hang out with friends and buy me stuff.
So, I say again.
YOU ARE FREE TO EXPLORE OTHER VENTURES ON REDDIT.
[deleted] 9y ago
Dude, you are pure comedy gold.
bacdafucoff 9y ago
Well I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I understand you spent a decent amount of time creating your post and it's probably hard to hear criticism of it but I found it lacking real substance. It's like standing in line at the grocery store and reading the headlines on the tabloid rags. Good for you for trying though. And now since I have your permission I'll go find these other ventures you have opened my eyes to.
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I thought Bloom in 'Kingdom of Heaven' was pure TRP, if not specifically the Sigma variety. Yes, it was a character in a movie, but I would not count him out yet IRL. How many times did you have a Kerr fuck you over until you got the message? Me? Seven. And I have a kid with one of them. Live and learn.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
No, he'll be fine. He's very good looking and famous and an artsy actor. He will get tons of poon. He's probably well over 70+ lifetime partners. Easily. Actors and Rockstars/Popstars clean up with chicks. He's in his late 30s I believe so he's probably had tons of chicks.
redestofthereds 9y ago
I'm sure that if we were to compare Leonardo DiCaprio to Justin Beiber in terms of quality (no homo), we would agree that Leo is a much better man. I mean, this is a man that is a master of his craft, he has harems of women around him, classy as fuck and the way he handled Bieber was just fucking smooth when he requested that they meet.
Let's be honest though, chicks want the tingles. Now which one of the these two produces the most? Which one are they going to be more attracted to?It's just the times that were living in, folks.
skoobled 9y ago
Biebs is in better shape, and exudes (manufactured) Bad Boy. I agree Leo is a better man, but Bieber ticks more boxes for quickie tingles from shallow bitches
OKJaded 9y ago
I would fight Biebs and Legolas and the same time to bang Kerr
redpillbanana 9y ago
Spiegel is young enough that he might have stroked off to Kerr in his youth.
Imagine being a teenager and fantasizing about a VS model during masturbation, then 8 years later, you're a billionaire and dating her. You'd probably think that you're on the top of the world - blind to the fact that as a billionaire, you should be balls-deep in multiple early-20s VS models rather than just one that is a single mother, has ridden the carousel hard, and is approaching the wall.
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RedPillJax 9y ago
Hear, hear.
Funny how the ultimate fantasy most guys who look up to him think this is, it's really the exact opposite.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
Exactly. Pure Beta nerd fantasy. She'll be knocked up in a year or less and then have the keys to the city so to speak. HALF! Or probably more than half, lol.
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I have hope. Knowing that she's hitting the wall, spigel may be exploiting this by fucking her hard and hinting at marriage before leaving her used up pussy and banging more chicks at the ripe age of 25.
Oh given that much power and money, I'm sure this is what we'd do.
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Evan Spiegel was kind of a frat star from what leaked emails have said. Just throwing that out there.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
I don't doubt it. I mean, those rich frat boys get poon easily. It's all about money. I mean... You know, he might be hung. I mean, he might.
denkoen11 9y ago
1) doubt he was rich at that point (from what I can tell, he wasn't compared to his peers)
2) plenty of rich kids in stanford kappa sig each year, most of them aren't fratty enough to send the savage emails this kid was blasting off
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It's not all about money at stanford im sure.
CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 9y ago
I think its a good investment for him. He dates her for bit, is known for it, then its even easier for him to shag the younger girls faster as they've seen him in lots of celeb gossip magazines.
Godtiermasturbator 9y ago
Yep, social proof. Let's just hope he survives the divorce rape with his game intact.
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Snivellious 9y ago
Did you know the name Evan Spiegel 20 minutes ago? I didn't, and I've read read essays he's written about Snapchat. This moves him from "rich Valley guy" to "rich celebrity people know".
Assuming he doesn't marry her, that might actually be a valuable trade for him - so what if it costs him $10 million in the process?
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TyPerfect 9y ago
Using your money isn't the best way to get laid. However, being on the cover of every rag at the whole foods checkout counter is an excellent way to get laid.
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All the better for it. I couldn't care less who this guy is, or what the hell snapchat is. The lesson here is AWALT.
Snivellious 9y ago
No, I just couldn't give a shit. I read about Snapchat's last big funding round, it was just never worth knowing who the founder was. The same goes for Instagram, Vine, and every other narcissism-driven waste product of the Valley for the last couple years.
Now I know Evan Spiegel because he hooked up with a celebrity and made the news from a new direction. No idea if it'll help him, but it's a change. He's not a repeat winner like Thiel or a tech commentator like Musk, so he gets to do the tabloid crap shot at celebrity.
Is that worth having? Probably not, but this will get him more reputation than hooking up with a hotter but less well known 20yo model. If he's keeping with the usual Valley whiz kid story (i.e. desperate to turn wealth into being one of the "cool kids" he never was), he could find worse ways to go about it.
johnchapel 9y ago
I think its cute OP thinks Orlando Bloom and Justin Beiber are betas.
You freshman redpillers are entertaining as fuck.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
lol, Grow up scrub. Bloom is not a beta compared to you and I, but compared to the billionaires he probably is in some aspects (Earning potential and purchasing power for example)
I said Bieber was just a player and the bad boy that Kerr needed to give her tingly feelings.
johnchapel 9y ago
Actually, what you "said" was a lot of tabloid level gossip, and if we're bein frank, the fact that you know so many specific details about a fucking celebrity relationship, an inarguably boring one, is kinda.......
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
I read the article in a magazine man, it was just a platform for the ideas of women always want more, more, more and AWALT. I mean, how hard is this to get?
johnchapel 9y ago
Did you read it in The Advocate or OUT?
You're talking about a victoria secret model who cheated on legolas with justin beiber, as an example of AWALT. I dunno, you tell me how "hard this is to get", freshman.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
It's alright good sir, your spinning your wheels. Using my phrase for a point. GET YOUR OWN IDEAS BRO. Quit sucking my dick. I may kinda be a faggot, but I don't need it from you.
I thought it was OK, but it could have been The Advocate or OUT, I guess. It was at a chicks pad I used to plow and I was taking a shit
johnchapel 9y ago
Oh shit. you really are gay?
No wonder you're so gay. That kinda changes everything. Still though, you can't use celebrities as an example of AWALT. The famous exist in a bubble that is just so far removed from reality that in redpill terms, you can basically consider them all genderless crazy people.
But you are a freshman. Its ok though.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
I'm bisexual. Not full gay, I've fucked lots of poon in my day. Not many dick, but... I am attracted to some men. But I'm not like Village People gay, lol.
You're wrong about the rich and Famous, they are people just like us and rich, beautiful, high SMV women are all the same as other women, it's just degrees. That's why I said AWALT in the OP and said women, all women, just want more, more and more and they use their SMV to scheme and move men into their place they designate them. That's all.
johnchapel 9y ago
Dude.....i can't even take you seriously. You probably have no idea why thats an entirely fucking dorky thing to say.
Clockshade 9y ago
Oh man...Did you really have to destroy the guy like that? I know, I know; break them down to build them up, but...woah. Frame destroyed. I think you nuked it.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
Okay man,whatever you say. I'm a pretty big dork, I mean I play video games and like Star Wars and stuff and read some campy material here and there. I'm pretty dorky. I've always thought so.
johnchapel 9y ago
PS, Beta and Alpha are not relative terms. You either are or aren't. One or the other.
bigcitytruth 9y ago
Yes, they are relative depending on the scenario and who is being compared to whom.
For example, look at this video of an alpha man proving to us the gigantic size of his balls: http://youtu.be/Umokxn3Vc38
Most alpha guys would be reduced to a beta in that situation. On the flipside, it's entirely possible that the alpha-as-fuck guy in that video may be a meek, totally awkward chump with women -- a beta.
So it's certainly relative.
johnchapel 9y ago
It's not.
You're basically saying "that yin is a yang compared to that yin"
You are either alpha, or you are not. In your given example, I would submit that if someone is "alpha as fuck with his friends" and "beta with women", he is not alpha at all.
bigcitytruth 9y ago
The thing is, we're both right. I agree, there are some guys who are definitely alpha, and some who are definitely beta, and it can be considered a constant. But in some scenarios, there are guys who are more alpha than others in that specific situation. It can be a slight difference, or a hugely noticeable one. That's the relative part.
johnchapel 9y ago
I feel like you're using the word "alpha" as a coverall that includes what you are actually referring to, which is skill set. My text game is on point. And my day game is on point. But I tend to struggle with gaming 20 year olds because the age disconnect is so prevelant, I have a hard time staying interested. I may ask a trusted buddy what to do because he slays with 20 year olds.
That situation however, does not make one more alpha than the other. There is always a pecking order. I am not suddenly less alpha because a 20 year old is orbiting me, or because I'm asking for help. The alpha leads the pack.
bigcitytruth 9y ago
The best way to game 20 year olds is to "own" being an older gent. Don't try to be an old dude trying to be young and hip. Be the silver fox, crotchety, just own it and live it up. All you have to do is naturally reference one older thing they think is cool but you actually lived through it the first time around--this will reframe the young hapless dudes in the vicinity as inauthentic little boys whose balls haven't dropped yet. It has to be a natural reference, otherwise it will seem like puffery and will fail. The rest of the time, keep the girl in the frame as the "little girl who is cute for knowing nothing." They'll be putty in your hands.
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They are one hundred percent relative.
johnchapel 9y ago
No. They aren't. You either are Alpha, or you are not. You either are Beta, or you are not.
This is, of course, in respect to the fact that we're not speaking of a social pecking order, in which case, an argument could be made that they are relative, however, the entire concept of alpha vs. beta is that if another alpha comes along, and you lower your head to him, you are no longer the alpha, and the betas know it. But even then, it is not "one hundred percent" relative.
However, OP has never met Orlando fucking Bloom. And especially considering his posts in this thread have given ample evidence that he's a freshman autie virgin, he really has no social clout to be dolling out that Orlando Bloom is "not a beta compared to you or me". Bloom is an alpha. I am an alpha. It is only when Bloom and I meet, and our social circles become intertwined, and Bloom and I quietly agree to contend towards who leads the pack that it comes into question, and it is only when who backs down first that an alpha either remains or is replaced.
Words have definitions and meaning fellas. This game isn't open to interpretation.
McLarenX 9y ago
I honestly don't know why guys go crazy over models. Must be an ego thing. I'll take a young girl with a porn body any day over Kerr
jules991 9y ago
Why do you know so much celebrity gossip dude
INIESTA2009 9y ago
Because he is a pathetic loser. Why else would he write this incoherent wall of a text?
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
My ex, had an OK magazine in the john one day and I picked it up and read all about this Shenanigans. Took about 3 minutes of my time. Thought it was interesting and very applicable to RP and BB and overall nature of women.
Drogba006 9y ago
There are a million posts that show these principles. This isn't a noteworthy. She's doing the same shirt other women do but she's a millionaire, that's it
teeelo 9y ago
Oops. You broke frame answering him.
Kriskobg 9y ago
No this took substantially more than 3 minutes, don't lie to us and yourself.
Bonlocan 9y ago
He may have taken more than three minutes, but if he's willing to do the dirty work of reading this crap and summarizing it so that I only have to spend three minutes reading it then I'm not gonna complain.
INIESTA2009 9y ago
You learned nothing valuable.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
I have a 122 IQ and degrees in Psychology and Business.
Trust me, it literally took me three minutes, cause it only took about that long for me to finish my poop. :-)
Kriskobg 9y ago
LOL literally off yourself. I just remember that this sub is 70% neck beards who STILL haven't even touched pussy yet.
audscias 9y ago
Since when 122 is high enough to brag about it? lol
douglas_p 9y ago
Jesus Christ, dude. You deserve to be made fun of for bragging about your IQ here.
johnchapel 9y ago
Was literally about to write this very comment.
"I have a high IQ, which has absolutetly no relevance at all to reading a magazine article in 3 minutes".
IQ values are for losers.
douglas_p 9y ago
I think IQ testing is valid, but this guy clearly thinks his 122 IQ makes him special. It's really not that big of a deal.
friggindoc 9y ago
I can brag about my 160 though right?
JMCastillo86 9y ago
It doesn't beat my imaginary 224.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
Hey man, if you got a high one why not brag.
jimmybrite 9y ago
Because Internet IQ tests are rigged. I got a 144, there's no fucking way I'm pre-mensa.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
I never took one on the internet. I took one when I took the DSM years ago, I was 17. I doubt it's gone up, or even if it can really. I'm not an expert in IQ, I know what are good and what are poor scores. But that's about it. I've heard that doing some drugs can actually lower your IQ, don't know if that's true. But maybe. It's interesting.
douglas_p 9y ago
Because you sound like a pretentious dork with shitty social skills.
sandwhichman 9y ago
http://i.imgur.com/cVPKONj.jpg
DannyDemotta 9y ago
As opposed to the pimple-faced loser complaining about another man bragging about his IQ?
What next? Go hit up some car forums and rag on guys for driving Corvettes, Rolls, etc?
You dont have the high ground here, ace. If anything you both sound like jackasses. Got a high IQ? big dick? Make 1M/year? "Good for you". How hard is it to just leave it at that? Why pile on?
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
I kinda am a dork. But I have fairly attuned and stable social skills. I can converse with just about anybody and have many friends. Although, If I admit, I do find socializing with lesser's in terms of mental acuity or physical prowess to be.... Tedious. But again, I have many sociopathic tendencies so that's probably a byproduct of that.
johnchapel 9y ago
God, you just know he TALKS like that too.
Kriskobg 9y ago
OP has never touched a woman confirmed
douglas_p 9y ago
I'm starting to doubt that he's ever even kissed a woman who weighs less than him.
douglas_p 9y ago
Hate to tell you dude, but a 122 IQ is good but nothing worth bragging about.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
It's very good, almost considered gifted. The average is around 101, about 2/3's of test takers fall between 90-115 I believe. IQ doesn't really matter in terms of success or if one can become educated or skilled, but in terms of raw intelligence it's fairly accurate.
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Gotta say it, props to Kerr. She's playing the game flawlessly. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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BetterBadIdeas 9y ago
More than enjoying her time, she's capitalizing n on her sexual value to make investments. She's literally turning her high sexual value into dollars in a post wall retirement account.
You can't hate on that. She knows the game and she's absolutely killing it.
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(assuming you're not being sarcastic) if you still believe in karma you're not doing TRP right (except sweet sweet reddit karma)
[deleted] 9y ago
Bitch is about to throw a buzzer beater just before the game ends.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
lol, best comment in thread. You win. GG.
Buzzer beater... God damn. She's got swag like Curry. 30 foot fades for days.
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INIESTA2009 9y ago
Stop using the word Manlet you autistic fuck.
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mikesteane 9y ago
Er, a man plugged into the celebrity culture matrix?
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GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
Oh damn, it's worse than I thought. Bloom never had a chance. Probably no man does. Hopefully Billionaire Nerd Boy Spiegel wises up.
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Squeezymypenisy 9y ago
You say awalt, yet call her sociopathic. You have a way to go still. This behavior happens all the time. Bloom should stop being such a pussy.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
I think most women, are emotional vampires and are quite un-empathetic and selfish when it comes to men and relationships.
lacking empathy and being incredibly selfish is a key trait of a sociopath.
SCROTAL-SACK 9y ago
I had to google this slore to find out who tf she was. Glad i don't watch TV. Professional skank and single mother. What a catch.
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Shes not a single mother. Stop misusing the term.
clint_bronson 9y ago
Same. And she's not even that hot, just a pretty face.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
"Slore". Hahaha, I like that. Ha. Slore. I'll start using that one. I was engaged to a slore, but then I woke up!
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[deleted] 9y ago
it's easy for nerds to talk big on a keyboard.. the reality might be different.
that said, good counterpoint.
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
Naw, he's a beta. If you take away the billions, he'd be a 4/10 at best. He's skinny, scrawny, short and white. He was born wealthy and chicks dig money, almost, as much as Chad Dick. Almost.
He scores chicks, sure. He should. He's incredibly rich.
But he's gonna marry a single mother who's 33, a way higher SMV than him and has her own money... If he were a pure Alpha Stud, he'd be banging dozens of hot early 20 somethings.
He better prepare for a lifetime of being cheated on by the hotter Kerr.
This is why, even if you're very rich, you should never marry a woman who is way out of your league, she can be 1 maybe 2 points higher than you. But she can't be a 9 and you a 4. Nope.
KyfhoMyoba 9y ago
But what are his frame and Game like?
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Why would you do that though? Not to mention that SMV has nothing to do with beta/alpha.
You have way to much focus on "bangs many / different young chicks = alpha".
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watch_ping 9y ago
it doesn't change the fact that he's a mega manlet.
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GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
I don't blame him at all, I say go for it. But don't marry. Rumor is they're engaged.
GoldPisseR 9y ago
Well that's that then .
I don't get it at all.He'll have plenty of young chicks with no baggage at his fingertips, why marry a 33 yr old single mother? fucking Self destructive
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
Cause she's a seductress and probably great in the sack. And she's charming. She's manipulating him in believe she's that illusive Unicorn.
He's very young, although, not much younger than me. And he definitely doesn't know the game. Cause if he did he'd treat her like Packer did.
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sezamus 9y ago
Been there! I was Chad, but with with time Chad is boring and a good provider seems better.
Diabolical_Nuke 9y ago
She's got that gay dude and women fantasy of no ass, 8/10 at best.
Red_Pill_Theory 9y ago
Not into pop culture, but it's pretty sad that a young billionaire is dating a single mother. What a waste.
Unrelampago 9y ago
Good post. It's easier to analyze these stories when they feature people whose lives are public.
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Nia_Hills 9y ago
Never heard of her before :/ Legolas beats any bitch though
exoduslife 9y ago
Perhaps she has mad game but we can't discount the amount of BP behaviour on the part of her previous 'conquests'. Bloom doesn't scream alpha so he saw their marriage as a jackpot (VS model) while she saw it as a chance to trade up from whoever she was doing before him. He might have thought that getting her pregnant would have made their marriage more secure. How did that work out for him?
Her new Ben 10 isn't much alpha either and probably has a romantic over-the-top wedding proposal lined up and thinks that he will be the cowboy to tame this filly. We'll see how this plays out and the rest of the world will be surprised but this sub won't.
tl;dr - female game is not such a big factor
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
Yeah, I didn't mean it in the same perspective as us as men and how much game you have to have to score chicks, even if you're a good looking and fit man.
I meant that her SMV is on the high end of the female spectrum and she is using it at it's maximum potential.
But yes, females don't need "game" per say. Because they have a pussy and men will line up to get a dip.
Even a fat, obnoxious, road hog of a women can get laid easily.
Not the same for men, you really have to work and have game as a guy to get poon.
exoduslife 9y ago
Gospel right here; we've all seen this either firsthand or heard a friend go through this. "Women play life in easy mode"
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johnchapel 9y ago
You mean how monogomy is dead or how the analytics revealed that most of the girls on Ashley Madison were actually dudes?
favours_of_the_moon 9y ago
Who cares. Soon as she looked twice at Bieber, she was undesireable. LOL
It's like Madonna's SEX book. She did a shoot with... Vanilla Ice. LOL. These bitches actually prefer some flash-in-the-pan Shawn Cassidy poser to some dude with gravitas. I mean, she could've just called up Sean Penn or something. #skank
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
Ha. True story. I think Biebs in this case was just, there and made her poon tingle. She'd probably cheated lots on Bloom. Someone earlier posted that she named their son's middle name after a former lover who died..... I mean. Wow. Just wow.
Pen is a great actor and a non-pussy guy. He's kinda old school. I mean when Madonna started shit with him, he did tons of blow and tied her up and slapped her titties around, lol.
THAT'S really holding frame, lol.
favours_of_the_moon 9y ago
"Some women resemble the Ribbon of the French Legion of Honor. One no longer desires them, because they have soiled themselves on certain men." -Baudelaire, Intimate Journals
http://www.amazon.com/Intimate-Journals-Dover-Books-Literature/dp/0486447782/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1440787543&sr=1-1&keywords=baudelaire+intimate+journals
GarrusShotFirst 9y ago
Been a long time since I've read Baudelaire. Gotta be maybe European modernist literature class in college or something of that nature. Smart guy. If remember correctly he was very controversial, I believe he was an opiate addict and a bit off the wall, lol. But none the less, a intelligent man.
favours_of_the_moon 9y ago
He nailed what we refer to as "the modern girl." Gonna do a post about it. "The Black Venus." LOL
Redpillthriller 9y ago
Never found her attractive. Now she's hit the wall and a single mum I couldn't get hard for her even after a bottle of Viagra.
How pathetic does a billionaire have to be to slum it up with this bitch.
RemyPrice 9y ago
Just goes to show that you can't buy the Red Pill for any amount.
NotRAClST2 9y ago
bloom probably cheated on Kerr first when she was pregnant. Kerr took revenge by hitting up bieber. don't blame Miranda.