Ever wondered why women respond to reasonable (pushing against a wall, holding wrists, throwing them on the bed, smacking her ass etc) levels of aggression during sex, or rough sex in general? Here's a little anatomy lesson and how it relates to sex. The limbic system is one of the oldest systems in the human body. Within that system is the hypothalamus, which plays a huge role in sex.
The hypothalamus itself is responsible for various functions, such as regulation of the autonomic nervous system (heart rate, blood pressure, arousal in response to emotional circumstances, hunger, pain response, pleasure response, sexual satisfaction, anger, and aggressive behavior among others.
All these things are interconnected and most, if not all, are out of your control. You can't force yourself to become hungry, just like you can't force yourself to become attracted to someone who isn't attractive. Most of you are literally are genetically inclined to be attracted to women who are not overweight (aside from a fat ass or big breasts-to a degree). Just like men, most women are genetically attracted to men with 6 pack abs, the V waist, broad shoulders. They may say they like the "dad bod" that has been going around but we all know what they respond to.
If and when you get a woman behind closed doors and she is attracted to you, she will most likely respond to light, playful aggression, that will not harm her, unless she is into that, and can transfer into rough sex. This kind of behavior enhances her pleasure and the overall sexual experience because of all the interconnections located within the hypothalamus and how closely linked they are.
This is also why you've heard that if you are "considerate" with her, as in you ask her "can I do this? do you like that? am I hurting you?" can be very unattractive and actually turn her off, or at least view you differently post sex. It reeks of submissiveness and is the opposite of what you were genetically inclined to do.
This is where BP teachings come in and basically flood your mind with false notions of chivalry and being the nice guy when you, as a man, were not designed for such things.
The next time you have your plate/gf/FB over, shut down that voice and tap into that primal nature, the nature that has sustained the 20% of mankind, the nature that, to some extent, has driven women to conceive a child with a man who attracts her, only to have BB take over as the "father."
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I feel like this is a "how" explanation, not a "why." Wouldn't a why description be more along the lines of the evolutionary development? Say, millions of instances over thousands of years in which some men would rape. Those women that fought back were killed. Those that went along docile, or found some enjoyment in the act, procreated. Enough instances of this and you have an evolutionary inclination.
NAmember81 10y ago
There is this book called "The origin of consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind" and it talks about this phenomenon. Not only in women but men as well in instances of rival tribal raiders raping your wife while they are plundering your encampment and early man on the verge of developing the "ego" being able to use deceit to survive. Basically suppressing your emotions to fight when it would result in certain death. So the author proposed that a step towards mankind creating an "ego" or "persona" (which in Greek means mask) is the propensity of cunning and witty men surviving and being able to adapt to an agricultural existence and survive amongst people who back then would kill you If you were unable to think ahead and did something impulsive or stupid to anger your own tribe or neighboring competing tribes.
So there was an evolutionary mental advantage to projecting yourself into your "future self" and acting in your best interest. The men who could do this survived and procreated which could have been the driving force of the eventual mental capacity of mankind to create your "imaginary social self" called the ego. Which he proposed came about by language, and most importantly individual names and later the human invention of the representation of the inner self put forward by the word "I" to represent that inner world and be able to express it to others. And if you look at very ancient writings the author would primitively refer to himself by name without an "I" mentioned anywhere.
So maybe without language, names and the word "I" we are nothing more than naked apes. And if you ever noticed, people without the ability to comprehend or speak language have a very different consciousness than what you are accustomed to. The book basically talks about how evolution and and the ability to comprehend language gave man an evolutionary advantage that would later develope into our "ego" driven world where we can now look upon apes and even the environment in which we came out of as "foreign" and unlike us civilized humans. This delusion manifests itself in speech also in the phrase "I have a body", more correctly its "I AM a body". Or "I came into this world" when its really "I came out of this world".
And those experiments with the kids postponing their reward for a bigger reward proves this societal advantage. The longer the kids could resist eating the candy the more candy they received. And not surprisingly the young kids that were able to wait the longest were later in life much more successful than the children that had no impulse control and consumed the candy the moment the instructors left the room, thus leaving them with little to no reward.
I only meant to write a paragraph but it's too deep of a subject and I drifted off into other tangents.
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Reminds me of the "feral" children cases. No ability to process language or express their inner world to anyone but themselves and they acted exactly like you described, naked chimps.
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SergieAdamas 10y ago
Very good article. I used to be one of those guys who would ask what so and so liked. In my experience when doing that just like you said it is unattractive to the girl.
Fast-forward to me now: I take what I want. I look at sex as an act of dominance as well as the girl giving herself to me. When having sex now I literally fuck the shit out of my girl. Guess what? She loves it!
Most girls are too shy to admit that they prefer that based on indoctrination, but most girls like it rough and love to be dominated.
What to do? Dominate your women and do what you want.
Regards, Sergie
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thewrightstuff88 10y ago
honestly, i think that its a push and pull with the limbic system and other systems (the secondarily developed systems). When it comes to primal functions such as the 4 Fs (fighting, fucking, fleeing, and feeding), we should not compromise and give it all that we possibly can to obtain one or more of the functions as needed. The other parts, such as our heightened intelligence compared to other animals, should be used to enhance the 4 Fs
FrameWalker 10y ago
I find its easiest for me to go primal when I have a legitimate desire to dominate the girl. Sometimes she does something very seductive like dressing up for me to earn this treatment. Other times I might be slightly irritated by them. Notable examples include girls returning from a long soft next for temporary exclusivity (LSNFTE) or plates lying about seeing other guys (I prefer assuming mutual nonexclusivity and not worrying about it, but they still trip up on their lies)
A little bit of internal fire goes a long way.
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[deleted] 10y ago
No, he outlined some circumstances that made him feel more primal.
Less snark more reading comprehension pls.
FrameWalker 10y ago
Thanks for the support. I'm wildly amused by the number of deleted comments.
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ubiety 10y ago
Part of the point of the red pill is to state the "non-obvious". If you want to be a dick about how the "non-obvious" is too obvious, you're not adding to the discussion. Instead say something like this:
"So what you're saying is you need to differentiate the amount of pleasure you "give" a girl depending on how nicely she treats you. If she's being a cold bitch, don't treat her like a princess. You're a man of boundaries and if she crosses one you act accordingly. Make her extremely sexually frustrated, but don't follow through with actual sex. She'll get the tingles for you, but may throw another shit test to see if you're bluffing. Keep frustrating her until she changes her shit / comfort testing to a desired behavior / outcome, then fuck her senseless. Pavlov 101 (classical conditioning), she acts appropriately, she gets a reward. She act inappropriate, she gets punished. Next her if she doesn't play ball at all."
It's obvious, but not obvious if you're "told" all your life women are inherently better, and weaker than men. Your "natural" inclination is to always treat women the same, regardless of their behavior, at least coming from a blue pill mentality. Gotta stomp that shit out and neg bitches off that societal pedestal.
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creepyguy13 10y ago
They just like being treated roughly in general. Playfully punch them. Grab her wrists and pull her towards you. When you're walking grab the back of her neck and lead her. Mine look at me like I'm crazy but when have they told me to stop? They love it.
and NEVER ask if they want to have sex. Just do it. When they ask you why all you want is sex keep going. Girls who don't want to have sex will say no.
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laere 10y ago
Can confirm. Also this comment plus you name made me chuckle.
Cyralea 10y ago
This works so goddamn well when you caveman her. Tuck your shoulder under her hips and lift her over to the bedroom. Playfully dump her on the bed and go at it. Chicks seriously eat that up.
awakenedmale 10y ago
Nice username.
What is the guarantee that she won't later say it was rape? Happens a lot because of social pressure.
creepyguy13 10y ago
There's a story behind my username haha. I guess it applies here. I brought this girl over late at night on Valentine's Day, I figured I was in there. I actually think I fucked up by not trying to have sex with her. I don't know, something felt off about the night and I just never initiated. Next day no text. The Monday after she calls me creepy. Thinking about it she came over at 1am on Valentine's Day what else could she want? I wonder if I had sex with her would she be a plate or would I be in jail right now. (The day before Valentine's Day I slipped up and asked one of her friends when her friend was gonna fuck me.) I do that shit all the time and had never gotten the response she gave me haha.
Another tip, if you're not sure just initiate. Get nude, all that. When she hits you with the shit tests (I don't do this, other bullshit) just get up and act like you don't want her pussy. Might not always work but last time I did it she physically pulled me back.
scarletspider3 10y ago
I would also like to add that the breast simulates Oxytocin release
Dronitto 10y ago
What if they dont like it rough? :P Not even rough, just something like pulling hair is a big red no. Whyyy?!
NightGod 10y ago
Some people have very sensitive scalps. Like to the point that even brushing is downright painful. Assuming she's not one of those, it might be your technique. Try it like this. Slide your hand (fingers splayed pointing up) from the middle of her back, up across the nape of her neck and into her hair. Fingers right against her scalp. Now close your hand around the shape of her skull and tug a bit. Move her head around. Pull it back and savage her neck. Basically just completely control her above the shoulders and do whatever you want with your mouth.
I've yet to find a woman who doesn't completely melt when you do that.
Cyralea 10y ago
It's possible that she's one of the few who genuinely dislikes it, but in my experience that's maybe 5-10% of women. Use other forms of aggression. Pin her, throw her around, pound her aggressively, etc. Very few women dislike that.
As for hair-pulling, make sure you're grabbing from the roots, not the ends. Different sensation.
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Every girl I have been with likes hair pulling. Don't fucking rip her roots out, but a tight pull with some force will turn her on like crazy.
But if she tells you to stop then stop. Some girls probably don't like it as much.
scarletspider3 10y ago
Usually that's a shit test
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scarletspider3 10y ago
That's why you pull it anyway.
dr_warlock 10y ago
Being dominated by someone she views as 'beneath' her is rape.
marty2k 10y ago
Truth. There's so many posts here and other relationship related forums with BB guys getting only vanilla sex and finding out their wives/girlfriends used to take it in the ass and get dominated all the time.
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This should come naturally to men. Because you are a man. I understand the social conditioning and the matrix and blah blah.
But this is one thing I'd think every man has instincts for.
thewrightstuff88 10y ago
it should, and all men fortunately do, but as you know, many men are BP conditioned at a young age so it gets suppressed
GuidoBandito 10y ago
Just got me pondering a woman that while I had her pinned against a wall and held her arms behind her while doing some extremely passionate kissing. Granted, she had been involved in being sexually abused as a teenager, but it took a good 10 minutes before the Hamster kicked in and said "ummm I don't think so..." Looking back, she actually liked it. Hamsterbrain said otherwise.
NikoMyshkin 10y ago
Except that in Victorian times, obese women were considered the most sexually attractive, also current-day Africa, where thin women are assumed to have AIDS.
body-shape preference in men doesn't seem to be hard-coded (but ironically it seems pretty constant that throughout history, women from all cultures have liked muscular men above men possessing any other trait).
that said, the rest of your points seem quite pertinent.
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NikoMyshkin 10y ago
just look up victorian poorn. those women were literally obese and considered the height of sexual attractiveness. i'm not talking about beautiful but rather what would make men hard - sexual attraction - in this case to medically obese women.
i was never taught this in school; i came across this (not literally) in the context of evolutionary biology.
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Another theory may be that women actually like rape. That may be controversial (even around here) but I haven't been on this forum long enough to tell.
Anyway, look at all the romance novels that women read that have themes of rape and sexual harassment in them?
If a man gets a hold of a woman to rape her then her body should respond to that "attack" by preparing her for sex since that's what she's probably going to end up doing.
That requires arousal which lubricates and loosens the walls of the vagina to be receptive to the penis.
Warming up the skin and limbering up the arms and legs so they can handle vigorous sex.
Does this mean that men are all rapists?
No.
A better explanation is that before humans had words, fancy cars, and agriculture, men and women were pretty comparable in size and strength.
Women had an interest in mating with only the strongest males, but the only real way to tell this is whether a male could physically subdue her.
Many cultures, particularly the horse cultures of Mongolia, employ elements of rape and kidnapping in their marriage/courtship rituals.
They believe that if a male isn't strong enough to take a woman/girl from her family then he isn't strong enough to be a husband and protect her from danger.
It's essentially a shit test.
thewrightstuff88 10y ago
It's controversial but makes sense on a primitive level. Nowadays sex is only "rape" if the woman has buyers remorse in the morning or worse, even eye contact had been elucidated into a form or rape, which is a sad realization but not surprising based on the sjw bs that's been going around. If you have high enough smv, you can do almost anything to her.
caucasianinasia 10y ago
You don't have to punch her in the face to show your dominance. For example, I always move them aggressively when changing positions. I'll pin them down and make serious eye contact while going to pound town. For me, it's easy and natural.
Totsean 10y ago
Well, since adopting RP, sex has gotten amazing, I am becoming more open in bed, I like rough fucking, I prefer pinning girls down and spanking their asses. And I did all of that and honestly it's a huge turn on :D.
Dyalibya 10y ago
I've been triggered
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Slap. While standing up facefucking. Choke while deepthroathing. And always have a grip on the hair. The look they give you is of pure adoration.
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