I was asked for a flashback of this old gem. If you came to TRP to have your hand held and balls rubbed with feel-good platitudes then you will hate it.
What is a feel good platitude?
We are all gonna make it bro! Just shout out macho talk like lift and lead, and it will magically happen!
TRP is a collection of experiences and observations that work. It's not a place to talk about things you aren't doing to get an emotional high.
So what should TRP be? Its the unfiltered god honest truthful AskJeeves for pussy......Try what you read. Or tailor to your needs. Or just observe when something you read here happens in your life and now you can see it.
Incidentally, the women I wrote about below are still around and their guys have no clue. They don't have any idea who they married. Like the dead people on The Sixth Sense "They only see what they want to see."
without further delay....
There are men who think women are wonderful, that their girl wouldn't stray, and if she did cheat then they would sense it.
These men are wrong. She won't act guilty. She won't feel bad. In her mind, she did nothing wrong.
I've been in cabs with married women (after fucking) who shush me while they call their husbands to check on kids. Heard stories from another woman about her elaborate plans for her husbands surprise birthday party while gleefully getting pounded by yours truly. These women don't hate their husbands like Hollywood tells us. They consider them "best friends".
What does this mean for us?
1 Do not get married
2 You can't expect fidelity from a woman, it's just your turn, act accordingly.
3 if this post makes you upset then you don't yet understand the true nature of women.
metallicdrama 6y ago
The key is not care and cheat more/harder.
1UPZ_ 6y ago
Women are like men when it comes to wanting sex... men are slightly hornier, women pickier.
But replace the word "women" from OP's post and put "men" instead and its the same thing.
We (men) would cheat on our loved ones if a woman we find extremely attractive and sexy offers it to us, and assuming there's an opportunity to do so (time, place availability) Heck, the woman doesn't even have to be someone we find extremely attractive... she just have to get our dick hard enough. Women are slightly pickier.
thefisherman1961 6y ago
Absolutely nothing will stop a woman from cheating, not even the most religious women in the most morally strict society. Even the threat of being brutally tortured and executed, and then having the big daddy alpha in the sky casting her soul to burn in the hottest fires of hell for all eternity is not enough to stop a woman from remorselessly cheating on her husband for a taste of alpha cock just once. Hypergamy is a much more powerful force controlling a woman's mind than any patriarchal religion.
[deleted] 6y ago
One bish texted me naked pics from some church retreat recently
Luckylancer96 6y ago
Would not our polygamy force us to cheat same way?
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
You assume men and women have the same concept of honor. They dont.
Luckylancer96 6y ago
Nice point at least for ~%20 of us. ~%80 of people here are too fixated on mundane sex rather than honor.
Luckylancer96 6y ago
Nice point, at least for ~%20 of us. ~%80 of people here are too fixated on mundane sex rather than honor.
Davidskylarkk 6y ago
Apparently a big movement of dudes are such pussies they don't care if their girl fucks other dudes. What the fuck is going on now?!? I will never understand this new world we live in.
panzerknack 6y ago
This post makes me upset because you dont yet understand the true nature of statistics lol.
Women you've schnobbed treating their other men like shit only strengthens your own confirmation bias. When you get shot down by a girl with a boyfriend/husband, do you think "Wow add one checkmark to the 'not a total whore' column". No, you think "fuckin bitch, she woulda cheated if my game was tighter/I was hotter". Cant you see- every single experience you have gets run through this emotional filter and twisted to fit an existing narrative? Christ you say women are the emotional ones, based on TRP sometimes I think it's the opposite with all the illogical emotional screeching.
[deleted] 6y ago
so if an epidemic hits a city and 25% of people get sick, then according to you then meeting a few healthy ones proves nothing is wrong.
Also, I'm fucking great but not every womans cup of tea or even if I was, the timing may not be ideal so a woman turning me down doesn't in any way mean she wouldn't cheat the way ducks like bread
panzerknack 6y ago
Your latter statement is repeating exactly what I just said. We agree.
Davidskylarkk 6y ago
Glad you were emotionally available enough to hate. Also glad to see you keeping up with TRP, love the fans! I assume you are a women. You just contradicted yourself. You say women aren't emotional yet you get emotional reading posts on Reddit. Is hating posts logical?
You help validate TRP in your own statement. You hate it but you continue to read it. This proves that as long as you can create any emotion in a woman, they will be attracted. Thanks for validating for the skeptics!!
panzerknack 6y ago
Huh? I'm a guy - and I find debate entertaining, just like everyone else here. I'll concede TRP type sentiments are more entertaining to read than Noam-Chomsky style falsehoods.
Dude, we're all emotional- that was my point. That doesn't mean good, or bad, it just means many of our decisions are made from an emotional perspective, then rationalized logically. Of course my statement came from a place of emotion -i reacted to op's most with disdain. Again, there's nothing wrong with an emotional reaction to something (unless you're the sub commander with your finger on the launch key) - I think most of TRPs problem is denial that most of their outbursts are founded on emotion. They're frustrated at how theyve been treated by girls, and feel anger. That's fine.
[deleted] 6y ago
Love that post.
Also love the top comment....
Proverbs 30:20 - "This is the way of an adulterous woman; she eats, and wipes her mouth, and says, I have done no wickedness"
Dudes had this shit figured out 2000 years ago
[deleted]
[deleted] 6y ago
its literally talking about sucking dick actually
[deleted]
scissor_me_timbers00 6y ago
Schopenhauer outlines why their minds work this way. Because it is the law of nature that the strong and healthy and handsome men (read:alphas) are the ones they crave. And that this is because of nature, it preserves the integrity of the species that women crave good genes. Of course we know this already. But the crucial point Schopenhauer makes is that the eternal biological law of hypergamy has a much greater claim on a woman's psyche than a cultural promise of marriage. Hence she feels almost entitled to get to fuck her alphas.
Findsyourpicscool 6y ago
Damn Straight, the Jews knew what is up.
and btw, The Book of Proverbs is at least 3000 years old.
pri35t 6y ago
That proverbs is actually in reference to Eve eating the apple.
Now if you want to see about an adulterous wife, read Hosea
Xoramung 6y ago
no, its an ADULTEROUS WOMAN: "talakha talakah"
translated from Hebrew, "i did nothing wrong babe."
mainer345 6y ago
No it's about adultureous women.
netherlanddwarf 6y ago
It's just human nature science. Nothing to take personally. Thanks for the reminder OP, great post.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Women always rationalise their own behaviour to be men's fault. "I cheated because I wasn't being satisfied at home by my neglectful husband" [who works night and day to support his family.... but that's conveniently forgotten about].
Such is the life of a man when beta dating. Friends. Except the friendship only goes one way, and it's the same direction the money is going.
Westernhagen 6y ago
Moreover, they will certainly get validation from all their friends and even anonymous strangers on the internet when they whine that their husband was "emotionally unavailable", not doing his share of the housework, blah blah blah. Feminine collective response will not be "shame on you, cheating slut" but "go for it, you deserve happiness and great sex!"
mrHappyPotatoe 6y ago
2 years and it finally doesnt upset me at all. Contradictory, a dmall smirk cones to my face when I read such topics now.
ScarletScoundrel 6y ago
Now the more important question: Where do I meet these kind of women? Examples from your life you could share?
[deleted] 6y ago
These women aren't rare and hidden away. All WOMEN are like this for the right man
ScarletScoundrel 6y ago
True. I was more looking for some anecdotes of how you started things with them, if you have any.
futmut 6y ago
''1 Do not get married 2 You can't expect fidelity from a woman, it's just your turn, act accordingly. 3 if this post makes you upset then you don't yet understand the true nature of women.''
I agree especially with this part...a lot of dummies here think that if they have high smv value and alpha enough their wife will not cheat on them, because they will be scared to lose a high value guy...Man how pathetic they are...trying to convince us with their bs..
I still remember a friend of mine which is short, ugly as hell and never lifted in his life plus he had no money and yet pounded a girl which was in a relationship with a chad like looking guy...That guy was the center of attention everywhere ho goes due to his look and high smv yet somehow his girlfriend cheated on him with a guy with extremely low smv without a reason..
Jummiho 6y ago
The people who say this are just coping and delusional.
martinger 6y ago
He banged her good I guess
bfte_juan 6y ago
I don’t get how shit like this that people should’ve read in the sidebar gets so much attention.
party_next_door 6y ago
It's the hypergamy mindset of "I can do better" or that's how I perceive it, it goes both ways but I feel like it's more prevalent with females as they seek a better 'provider'.
[deleted] 6y ago
Sometimes sure. I personally have sucess with women whose husbands out earn me by a country mile. I do ok and have no complaints but these women want to be manhandled a few times a month or year and keep the gravy train (that I don't have and sure as fuck ain't sharing if I did) on the tracks.
What I'm getting at, is that alphafux is a real need for women and they will find it when they need it
[deleted] 6y ago
[deleted]
[deleted] 6y ago
I'm not saying my career. But you are right.
I'm just another guy like any other asshole.
It's learned psychosocial dominance and brutal diet and fitness that fool the world into thinking I'm royal.
[deleted] 6y ago
[deleted]
HunterRave 6y ago
I've never heard of it stated as Psychological dominance. Would you unpack this a little more, or point me in the right direction?
NapalmSunshine 6y ago
And this is why monogamy is for the birds :)
dinzen8 6y ago
What I have learnt is that is better to don’t think or be worry about infidelity. If you think too much in that you are going to become crazy, jealous and everything else. Cheating is not the ultimate feeling, you could feel like crap. I have done it too. You only can control yourself and your behavior. What do you really want to accomplish? Work on that path and try to don’t hurt anyone else. It could fuck your whole life.
[deleted] 6y ago
Perhaps I've read too much here, but your post is comforting to me.
I wish the MGTOW term could be separated into those who are incels and those who are not. I would be in that second category. I have no desire to have a cohabitating female. I take care of my own shit. I have no desire to negotiate on where to go on vacation, what to do with my time, the works. Come over, have some dinner, bang, even sleep over, I like a female in my bed.....but get the fuck out tomorrow morning, I have work to do.
The idea that there are females available who will not betray me is good to know. I don't fucking ask questions, I don't want to know and I don't care. I just don't want a confrontation with an angry boyfriend/husband.
vengefully_yours 6y ago
We could call it the VY method, because that is exactly what I do. No you can't stay, no I wont pay your student loans, no we will are not getting married, I like you but I don't want to keep you around.
I see even a glimmer of a bitch wanting me to be her ATM and she never even gets in the door. Nope, go find another guy to leech from.
no_face 6y ago
once you cross 30 and especially after 40, MGTOW is a serious option because your little head is slightly in lesser control
[deleted] 6y ago
Right, but you're also in better control of your life in general. Note, I'm not talking about swearing off women, merely living my own life with occasional company.
destraht 6y ago
It seems like MGTOW without the permanence is more like monk mode. I'm currently in monk mode since I don't find it worth my time to be looking for women in my short months in Northern California. I can guarantee you though that I'm looking for the exit and planning and expecting high quality women when I get to Eastern Europe. You know, there was a huge fucking fire here and life is odd now, jury duty coming up that I need to get out of the way, etc. I'm just doing my time monk mode and dealing with life. Its just a season. However, swearing off my dick forever just seems really fucked up. I don't see how a man could do that and not be a complete emotional disaster. Its not super fun to not be playing with ladies. Any guy who isn't real with that or looking for a way to get some, some day in the future, is a lost cause. Maybe a MGTOW guy has some muscles but its not someone whom I want to know.
[deleted] 6y ago
Absolutely, which is why I hate the term MGTOW, it's tied to incel IMO. I'm coming out of monk mode myself......carefully. If you consider cutting your age in half and hopping on Tinder careful. That said, I haven't exactly been gorging on nachos.
destraht 6y ago
If a pretty girl were to land in my lap right now then I'd be on top of the situation. Sometimes we need to heal but other times its just not a good use of energy for the environment. Best example is that you are up in Alaska and making your money for a season. You were just getting laid pretty good down South and you just need to work your ass off for three months and then later the world is yours. So then you notice these snaggletooth 4.5 women whom are starting to look doable but then you quickly figure out that they believe that they are 11s and half of the town is trying to get in their pants. Then you put your gaze on some half decent 6.5 prostitutes and they are charging $500 for 50 minutes. Well if you have sense you just realize that what is in your best interest is just not getting laid at that moment. Doesn't mean you don't want it. I'll be diving head first into the ladies once I get there.
[deleted] 6y ago
A solid definition of monk mode. There are actually many women around here.....I just needed to step back for a while to avoid transferring bad behavior patterns from one woman to the next, to put myself first for a while. Your example is solid too, don't get me wrong, I see your point clearly.
destraht 6y ago
Keep in mind that its not only what you are transferring
tobetween women but what they are projecting onto you. It seems to be quite common a sentiment around here that with perfect frame that these women can be broken in but that is going to be a battle and again, maybe just not worth the effort. I live around a lot and it would be futile and exhausting to try to train up every Ukrainian woman to behave like a Colombian and vice versa and even if it were possible that would be a life partner level of dedication. At a certain point they come as they come. So you're trying to change habits for the better while women from a culture are projecting that same shit at you which embedded those weaknesses into you in the first place. That seems like life on hard mode to me. I've just found that by traveling I am around women who are projecting completely different crap onto me and the crap which they do project is not at all embedded into my psyche and its easy peasy to just deflect it. Add in instant status improvement for just being there, better physiques, less entitlement, lower expectations, more feminine behavior and aspirations, lower costs.I_Need_More_Space_ 6y ago
Eastern Europe? You lucky dawg! I'm going to ski in the Tatra Mountains someday to experience the cuisine, the culture, and the women. Cheers!
destraht 6y ago
I like being on the other side of the Carpathian mountains to get away from the homogenizing influence of the EU. I think that as far as the reasonably prosperous parts go that you are right where you want to be to get some of that magic with less of the Western crap. I like Ukraine because it feels like a frontier with affordable high quality service. I just don't get that frontier kick West of the mountains.
I_Need_More_Space_ 6y ago
Ukraine is on my list as well. Unfortunately, I saw an article in Climbing Magazine telling Americans to go to Ukraine as they have great culture, and beautiful nature at affordable prices. The Western flood may be coming as word gets out unfortunately.
My international travel across the pond will be on hold for a few years in the future. I'm beginning the process of starting my own business in my field, so I'm staring down the barrel of that. I will still find a way to take a month off every year while I build, but I will probably stay in the U.S. for that time off to ski or climb.
Is there decent skiing in Ukraine? What towns do you like there?
destraht 6y ago
The Western flood will come but it will be focused in Kiev, L'viv and Odessa. Yes there is skiing there and you can figure out some ways to go with groups in a cabin and you can have a nice chance of hooking up with one. The Western Ukrainian women are more full of shit than you can likely comprehend now. This is the religious part of the country and the Pussy Cartel is strong there. Meaning that every woman will be pretending that NAWALT, pretending to be reserved about some matters, prostitution is common but super hidden away in plain sight. Full of shit. Big time. On the contrary the Pussy Cartel has long since been completely destroyed in Odessa and its a market of free agents.
I_Need_More_Space_ 6y ago
Thank you for the input, friend.
[deleted]
TheDeadlyZebra 6y ago
Hold up. You say don't get married presumably to avoid getting cheated on. Well.. what if you both cheat on each other? I suppose you might call that an "open marriage." But I mean closed, in the sense of not talking about new encounters or allowing other mates back into our home or personal lives. There's still the benefit of "looking married" and having someone in particular to depend on
A lot of the married women you reference probably have husbands that also cheat right under their nose
[deleted] 6y ago
I have a few buddies who cheat sure. Most men my age however csnt, wont, and if they did then their sexual strategy is betabux
I_Need_More_Space_ 6y ago
How about just don't get married for risk of financial ruin? That is a U.S. problem for sure.
[deleted]
dirtygarbage1974 6y ago
Just fuck em' right and you won't have this problem. You can manipulate loyalty out of women.
Just read The Sex God Method. Daniel isn't kidding when he says if you fill all her sexual needs she'll have no need to get it anywhere else. If you haven't witnessed this first hand go back and read the book and try again because you're doing it wrong.
AWALT - in that they ALL HAVE The capacity to cheat. Although all you need is genitals and monogamy to have cheating be possible...so to be frank I'll never understand how any of you thought this was some ground breaking revelation. There was literally never any scripture stating women could never cheat.
Women end up cheating because these dipshit men aren't controlling the aspects of their lives that allow them to cheat.
All you have to to do is own her world. Manipulate her life so that her life involves taking care of your shit. Then fuck her the best she's ever had. It's simple but it's not easy.
Eventually she won't understand a world without you or your cock. Same process as instilling the fear of God in her. She'll be too scared to astray. It's a different ball game when you've set it up so her life depends on you. Girls know who they can cheat and who won't tolerate it.
"Well you just don't understand the nature of women".
Well actually with enough understanding and power you can control this nature. Don't worry guys I've had women tell their boyfriends goodnight on the phone while I'm behind them. I've seen it myself.
Loyalty exists but it needs to be trained. Bonus points on the phone - pay for it. Then it's really hard to argue why you shouldn't look at her fucking phone.
There are spectrums to this shit and you guys always sit on the extreme end and ruin the fun for yourselves. Every woman has the capacity to be a sex crazed cheating whore. Having the capacity doesn't necessarily make it the case.
j_arbuckle2012 6y ago
Curious. Care to give examples of the different methods of control?
I think you've stumbled upon a fairly taboo Dominance kink: lifestyle Dom.
[deleted] 6y ago
The only loyalty that exists is her loyalty to the best deal she can get. If you sign papers, she can get your money plus someone else's. Do not get married.
The only loyalty that exists is to the greatest survival chance for her offspring. If she's already had your seed then the best chance is to get some genetic diversity. Your "baby's momma" can never be loyal.
The only loyalty she can have is to an situation she fears losing. Hold frame or lose it all.
[deleted] 6y ago
Being her best option helps but wont prevent anything. It does put you in a position to walk if you ever need to
dirtygarbage1974 6y ago
Manipulate and create the illusion you're the only option.
underdestruction 6y ago
How do you maintain the level of desire and attraction to fuck the same girl at 100% day after day?
dirtygarbage1974 6y ago
Variety. Again it's in the Sex God Method. understand that all pussy is the same and sexual compatibility is real. Just like you can crack better jokes with certain buddies you can have different/better sex with women
datshitcray69 6y ago
Ive been fucking LTR for 60 days straight, running out of ideas. She lives with me now lol
U_Lika_Da_Tomato 6y ago
You got some good shit going on here
blackleaf31 6y ago
I depart from this. I think cheating is wrong, and just because someone is willing to cheat with me does not make it ethically ok for me to do so. Someone else's lack of ethics does not impact my ethics.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
This is how you moralize without getting into trouble. State your frame, even argue it is right. Just don't demand other men accept your moral framework.
RedPillHanSolo 6y ago
By all means do you, but IMO we're still animals inside. A quite interseting excerpt from "A pragmatic view of morality":
[deleted] 6y ago
You can think what you want but its nothing we here give a shit about and if you start preaching morality than you may as well hit unsubscribe before you get rightfully banned
blackleaf31 6y ago
I said what my ethics are, not what your ethics should be. And incidentally, chiding me for "preaching morality" is, in and of itself, preaching morality.
GOODLORD100 6y ago
I found out my gf, who was also my fiancé, cheated on me starting one month into our 2 year relationship. With 6 guys. I’ve talked about it here before but this seems like the perfect place to mention it again to remind people.
SIX guys. 5/6 were ugly as hell and/or losers. She made a sex tape, while blackout drunk (she claims), with a pretty obese guy with no job. She said he was nice to him when she was blacked out, even though they weren’t friends.
The day after I met her parents, she went out with friends. And met a guy and fucked him multiple times, on multiple days. She sent nudes to him through Snapchat.
Yes, I broke up with her but it was a terrible thing to go through
Xoramung 6y ago
sux. hope you are better off for it, she sounds horribad.
[deleted] 6y ago
It's a rare hoe that will cheat down, she must of thought she had you in the bag and could never lose you. It's about the power and game theory. If she thinks she'll never lose you, then what's to risk? Usually it's more like "I'll risk an upswing to a higher branch".
But sometimes it's like "I know I can have this branch whenever I want. Let's go have some fun all over the tree and I can come back later". (In general this is the CC mentality btw for girls wanting fun in their youth and marriage later).
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
The hoe wasnt cheating which is why she could lie so easily. She was just on the cc.
RedPillHanSolo 6y ago
To some hoes a strange cock is a strange cock. There is literally nothing more going for a fat obese loser prick except for being unfamiliar to this hoe (unlike OP).
GOODLORD100 6y ago
Yea I agree. She said she was really drunk each time and regretted it and felt embarrassed (except for that one chad). She also said she just wanted to get fcked and didn’t care who it was
askmrcia 6y ago
There had to be signs. Where you meet her at? A club?
GOODLORD100 6y ago
Work, but we continued the relationship even after work.
There were some warning signs and I was kind of suspicious but I was with her a lot and couldn’t randomly accuse her.
One of the guys she was with who was way older somehow got my number and texted me to say sorry and that he’s not the type of guy Brown he sent me screenshots of all their texts, with a few about the sex they had.
Confronted her and she couldn’t lie. Her best friend told me there’s a lot more and she confessed to 5 more plus this guy. I’m sure there were more though. She said she made out with a few random guys almost every time she went out.
Never trust an Eastern European is the lesson I learned. Or any girl for that matter. But there’s an Eastern European lady at my old job, married, and she has slept with over 15 guys in our office over 2 year period. I used to feel bad for him
RedPillHanSolo 6y ago
Funny how dudes (American ones I assume) think that EE broads are different in
thatany regard. AWALT. Tattoo it on your chest.GOODLORD100 6y ago
I’m Canadian. They are different. All women are similar though and I’ve definitely heard worse stories from American women, but EE women seem to have the looks, dominance, and high IQ to better manipulate a man. That’s what I’ve seen at least. I know you know what I’m talking about
FinancierGuru 6y ago
Gold.
"In her mind, she did nothing wrong." -endorsed by experience.
max_peenor 6y ago
So true, not one fuck will be given that day, other than the hot fuq she is giving Mister Tingles, but that darn hamster will betray them too. Let's review of extremely obvious shit I have either personally witnessed to heard about in the last couple decades.
A dead bedroom that suddenly turned into a scene out of Caligula for no apparently reason other than the "she really does want your D" fairy descended from Heaven put a spell on her. Yeah, no, she wanted another D but wanted to practice being a slut first, so she wouldn't disappoint him.
The magical eruption of used pregnancy tests and their packaging, often carelessly tossed on top of the trash bin, despite not participating in sex with this woman in months. (I've heard of this one so many times from so many men it makes my gut turn, but here was my favorite instance.). When asked about it, she says, "her period has been irregular lately and taking the test tricks it back on schedule." That or she's a whore that is worried the foreign semen injections might have consequences.
The box of condoms that falls out of her purse. "Uh, we don't use condoms." "Oh, well, just in case we do."
She goes from homebody with hobbies and comfort behaviors to spending long nights out with friends you have never met. Legal Cohabiting Female went so far as to find a sex-hookup group and claimed it was just a coffee club where they talked about literature; no, you stupid twat, I know the groups founder personally. We spit-roasted one of the group members together a year before. LCF was probably a little confused why she never had any luck in the group, which was hilarious because she wasn't just trying to cheat on me, but the guy she was fucking on the side already.
Obsessive explaining of detail that seem completely irrelevant. I have a lot of examples of this, but here is my absolute favorite, since I think it illustrates my final point the best. I watched this cuckold (literally) drama from the outside, courtesy of LCF, who was also amazed at how far this went. She had a friend, some pasty white mick, that was married to a manlet filipino BB, though he wasn't particularly good at the wallet providing duties. She was fucking a giant black guy on the side for years. Sure as shit, she gets pregnant and there is no mistaking the father with kid. Despite half the universe knowing she's a cheating whore, including neighbors, family and friends, she just can't tell her husband. So instead she goes on a gas lighting campaign that would make 1900s London look pitch-black. So far it has worked, but I doubt there is another man out there that has put up with as much "daddy this, daddy that, daddies little boy, daddy daddy daddy!" shit as he has.
She announces vacations to places she has never mentioned before and she wants to go alone. "Atlanta? You fucking hate the south, why the hell do you want to go there?" Answer: penis.
She makes a medical appointments without any apparent medical reason and any explanation. I've seen this one pretty far and wide as well, but when women go on whoring rampages, they need often need some medical backup. I can list off dozens of women (including LCF) that I was fucking and/or were fucking around behind someone's back that went to obgyn not just for various birth control, but for things like antibiotics to deal with recurring UTIs caused by frequent sex and, of course, a fan favorite--valtrex. This is so they can keep their sores in check while they plan to suckle on cocks for hours on end. I had one mistress that would pop a Macrobid down the gullet after sex every single time, because if she didn't she would get a UTI from me (we were pretty dirty little piggies). Imagine my surprise and the joy in my heart when I found bottle of it in LCF's drug cabinet.
So, really, what's the problem here? Are women super secret penis spies that live undiscovered in a shadowy fuck-whore world that is completely hidden from us? Or are men just fucking retarded?
Men are just fucking retarded. If she is cheating on you, she's already been caught; it's willful ignorance that keeps the relationship afloat. The vaginal machines and their powers of oneitus conspire with the Male Ennui Hamster that wants nothing more than to not lift a finger to keep a female in his pen. They blind men to slutty behavior even when she's screaming Please Break Up With Me while walking funny from the three-holing she took from some other guy a couple hours ago.
Westernhagen 6y ago
90% of "being retarded" is not wanting to be smart. Knowing the truth hurts, and requires even more painful corrective action, plus the thing Nice Guys hate most of all, i.e., confrontation with a female. Much much easier to stay asleep and pretend nothing is wrong.
quicklogaccount 6y ago
What I've seen is PRECISELY the opposite.
Maybe you've been with women that have been doing it for a while. I don't know.
The cheaters I met, including an ex, always told somehow, through very cliche give aways. Asked about the whereabouts, random "are you upset/mad with me?", trickle truth or "my friend..." to test the waters.
Not to account for the fact people suck at lying. The natural strategy is to add details to make it more trustworthy while in practice it makes it less likely.
I'm pretty sure women will eventually get the knack of it, or their red flag behavior will eventually be identified as their natural behavior ("naturally flirty" is a line I love and just heard. Nope, you're not naturally flirty, you're EASY AS FUCK and as you're trying to get a better guy to drive you to cheat) by their partners. But for a good while, she'll let you know somehow.
lopsidedlucky 6y ago
Women are natural liars bro. They start lying and manipulating daddy when they learn to speak. It's awalt.
You might know some dumb bitches that suck at it or you might be extremely astute to their way of lying. Learning how women operate and lie doesn't mean they suck at lying to the average beta.
quicklogaccount 6y ago
I never said women, I said people:
We suck at lying. We suck bad. Unless we're taught.
And women aren't taught, they're naturals. They'll load the narrative with details and emotions and count on the hearer's lenience with loopholes and on the fact the characters in that story are hardly the ones he knows.
This is true. Not just average beta though. They do what is natural and you believe it because it is natural. You need to be taught to be a bit cold blooded and rational on those circumstances.
untonyto 6y ago
Those who say "you can never tell if she is cheating" advance The Feminine Mystique, the blue pill trope that women are unknowable, mysterious unicorns. "We should just give up on understanding women and should Ban AWALT because we just can't tell something as basic as infidelity."
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
Yes that is his point. You can't tell when they lie. There are clues but women are exceptionally good liars. Awalt.
quicklogaccount 6y ago
I never looked at it through this angle, but there's some truth there.
On ASKtrp I tell guys not to be cheat-o-phobic and not to commit while they are. Keep your ability to leave, don't make yourself willingly deaf and blind, and you'll do the right thing if it happens.
DJCheeky 6y ago
This. This so much. I had my ex cheat on me and when I dug back into our text history there were parts when she put herself down for being a slut, knowing I would comfort her (she had just cheated on that very day), or when she brought up a friend that she used to have a crush on and said it was nice to have attention lavished on her, although of course she still preferred me (another dude she cheated on me with).
They get guilty and try to trickle truth themselves into thinking it's not that bad.
cashmoney_x 6y ago
Nope. It's all about their ego.
quicklogaccount 6y ago
This sort of stuff. The ex that cheated on me tried to get me to dump her the day after she did.
My "the" ex never cheated but she tried to get me to dump her a million times. Funny thing BP me always felt like I was a creeper for feeling bad in the relationship and said I wanted to break up to date other women and experience life. She always heard it as "you are not good enough" and fought to keep me afterwards, despite all the nagging and whining. Go figure.
BewareTheOldMan 6y ago
As much as it is relatively easy for women to be unfaithful, it is possible to note signs/clues of infidelity: random or noticeable changes is behavior, speech, "tone," or demeanor, gaps in time, decreased or newly introduced sexual activity, etc.
For men who openly disregard the possibility of infidelity in their women, it’s mainly due to the belief that my cupcake wouldn’t do that to me/Blue Pill Conditioning with the mindset being: "…after ALL the things I do and provide for her…"
One of the biggest insults to a woman’s infidelity is that a husband is required to provide financial support, emotional support, serve as a father to children produced in the relationship, and perform many more tasks expected of a husband.
The other man has NO SUCH REPSPONSIBILITY or requirements. He is the guy who is pile-driving another man’s wife. This is one of the principal reasons an unfaithful woman is judged harshly by others, but more importantly by her husband. The other guy - the "Fling" or "Affair Guy" does not want nor has any requirement to do husband work, but is always available for uncommitted and casual sex.
Even more surprising is there are women who have zero problems rationalizing their behavior, with many "blaming" the husband.
It’s one of the reasons when men have affairs that women are upset at the betrayal, but also the likelihood that numerous benefits provided by the husband are also waking out the door and possibly transferring to another woman. It is a rare situation when a women earns more than an employed/unemployed husband and provides principal financial support to the household.
I don’t condone extramarital/external relations by either sex, but simply noting the stark contrast in differences, circumstances, and possible outcomes.
If women want the Other Man so badly they are willing to risk a solid marriage, they need to get "Mr. Wonderful" to do "husband work." But then again, "Chad" doesn't do husband work.
quicklogaccount 6y ago
As of recently I actually believe men have the upper hand (slightly) in the hook up game, thanks to feminism. Women fuck shamelessly and it benefits us more than them.
But man, that DOES turn around when you commit. I get your point.
untonyto 6y ago
Literally got sick to the stomach reading this
[deleted] 6y ago
Good. That's why it was written and getting sick, not angry is a good sign for you
vengefully_yours 6y ago
Once you've seen it a few times, you can spot it. I've always known exactly when the bitch was thinking about sucking a cock not attached to me. I've never been wrong about it either, but I have been an expert at reading nonverbal communication for over 40 years. I only had to learn girls and what it meant. That was handled when I was 16 way back in 1985.
Your average dude is fucking oblivious. I can spot a lie relatively easily, on almost anyone even if they practice it, but these guys will think the bitch is being good when she is riding me and sending him texts with pics of her while I'm inside her. Like stacysmom said though, they get better at lying with age. Once you know her tells though, she can't hide shit from you. Most guys never learn them.
I almost always give them the benefit of a doubt and wait and see. Like I said, never been wrong in a truck load of bitches. Very few people get to this level of awareness, it requires shit nobody should have to endure.
quicklogaccount 6y ago
Yep. I was this dude. And yep, oblivious.
nzdrummer 6y ago
Are you able to give some of us 'average dudes' some schooling here? I've noticed a few comments where you mention these skills that you have developed under some duress, and I for one would welcome some knowledge in this area.
aDrunkenWhaler 6y ago
Not op, but I identify with what he's describing. Besides the sidebar, which is mandatory read, get into studying body language and non-verbal communication, human behaviour, applied pshychology, manipulation tactics etc. It's a long process, but things become instantly clear after you internalize some of these skills. If things are fuzzy, or I only get a hint that something is off, I like to put myself it the other person's shoes, see from their perspective and ask myself 'why' several times. Later edit: and of course, lots of practice and testing
untonyto 6y ago
Mindfulness helps. A cheating woman can't help it when her contempt for him shows itself. She thinks she's smart keeping a big secret from you, she must think you're dumb (dumber than her at least) for not even suspecting it. Something she does or says will betray this mindset.
lopsidedlucky 6y ago
Read the sidebar, the top 100 posts and experience. Also listen to the black phillip show on youtube.
By experience I mean tons of dates and bangs. It just starts coming all together like sports.
jb_trp 6y ago
No matter how good your LTR is going, always listen to your gut, always be able to walk away, and the moment you question your trust in them to the point where you feel like you need to check their phone, or check whatever... Well, that's the point you should have already dumped them five minutes ago.
quicklogaccount 6y ago
I hate the "always trust your gut" thing because guts lie. It's like saying trust the hamster. But this is precisely the point:
Guys that can't walk away NEED to eat the bullshit they're fed. They ARE cucks, being covert cucks is better than being overt cucks I guess.
Guys that CAN walk away just need to hear and look around with a healthy degree of suspicions.
destraht 6y ago
I want to add that if you miss that moment then there are many other countless moments before months and years go by. The real tragedy are these huge chunks of wasted life, being brought into court, payments, loss of dignity and confidence. Looking back I've held onto girls extra days or weeks longer than was appropriate and that made me feel bad and I know that I knew sooner that it was not great, but the time lost was minor and I see all of these sad fucks who had it so much worse. My timing and decisions have been suboptimal yet I'm still way ahead of the curve.
untonyto 6y ago
Agreed. It's hard in the short term to keep it simple (to cut losses and run as early as possible) but in the long run keeping it simple like this cuts out a lot of extra headache later on. The hard part initially is that the red flags show up in the early honeymoon stages when things are still exciting, you are not yet heavily invested, and she's sweetening the deal to coax commitment out of you. Walking out on all of that at that stage is hard. They probably know as well and enjoy the danger of dropping red flags as a test.
beginner_ 6y ago
I disagree with the gut thing for the inexperienced and insecure types eg all noobs. There would be just too much insecurity affecting your gut feeling.
BokehClasses 6y ago
It's not like you'll marry the bitch so breaking up early isn't a big deal. Plenty of fish in the sea.
buddhadarko 6y ago
It all comes down to experience, and self-awareness. You can be aware of your gut reaction/feeling, but temper your actions with RP principles so you don’t lose your shit out here. New RP guys don’t have the experience so they are more likely to go off the deep end when a woman shit tests them or they get a feeling that she’s straying. More experienced RP’ers know better than to start busting out flowers and candy and extra attention because they feel that somethings going on. The moment you react like her, she senses those feminine characteristics in you and then used that to justify her spreading her legs for the guy she’s “just friends” with on Facebook.
No woman is 100% down for her man, no matter how RP/alpha/high status he is. She is there to fulfill her needs and satisfy her hamster cravings so she can focus on things like her appearance and social media profiles/activities for further validation that she’s worth the time of day. Any displays of or words of loyalty are purely ephemeral and they serve her, not you.
antariusz 6y ago
I’m 100% spot on so far with cheaters. 4/4 times it’s happened I ended things, and then found out about the cheating after.
My gut notices when she begins her branch swinging, I notice the loss of affection, the loss of feminine neediness, the loss of love. It’s always after she gets some random dick on the side.
I wish I had a gut feeling that could tell me before it happened though.
[deleted] 6y ago
I'm mostly with you. Nothing wrong with checking up on the women in your life to protect your finances and children. It's not a mateguarding thing to do this and not checking is the big fat bluepill
I have fire insurance and I'm not phobicpsychoafraid of fires.
know what I mean?
Scandinavianredpill 6y ago
it is mate guarding. And I think you need to fully redpill yourself. You are still acting on your feral impulse to mateguard. What you should do instead is either be the person you want to be morally without expecting the same from others. Or 2 ignore your impulse for jalousy which is born out of your lack of options.
Dravous 6y ago
I think you missed this part. if she's planning to branch swing, being aware of it(with tangible evidence) before she does is vital to not being isolated from children and being put in the poor house.
PaperStreetVilla 6y ago
Trust, but verify.
Mategyarding is telling a girl not to stray, not the occasional snoop
Scandinavianredpill 6y ago
Call it what you want, seems like you are spending too much mental energy spion on your girls if you do that. If you truly didn't give a fuck about a girl you were fucking, would you be checking out her phone? you would laugh if she tried to fool around and replace her.. touche.
PaperStreetVilla 6y ago
We aren't talking plates here.
[deleted] 6y ago
If you read what I wrote than you would clearly see I have options but hey, dont you go snooping because you think its not alpha. It's actually smart if you truly know and understand women
Scandinavianredpill 6y ago
I can read what you write, but I can also read between the lines. You obsess over checking phones and you don't have your jelousy under control. You already know to expect women not to be faithful. you hopefully invest yourself from that perspective, yet what you write doesn't indicate that. best of luck.
[deleted] 6y ago
Where do you get obsessive from anything I have ever written? Seriousl question
zeeohsixer 6y ago
He is fully redpill. You always check on your adversary, that's why we (USA) spend billions on intel/signals/psyops
Elfclan30 6y ago
lol, a friend of mine had a girl when he would do something to bother her, aka healthy banter; she would say "I am going to cheat on you!" jokingly ofc, but guess what...
quicklogaccount 6y ago
lol, a friend of mine had a girl when he would do something to bother her, aka healthy banter; she would say "I am going to cheat on you!" jokingly ofc, but guess what...
(I knew one of these too.)
But she would actually break up with him, fuck whoever she wanted to, then beg him to get back. She wouldn't tell him about the guy(s) because they "weren't dating an he doesn't have the right to know". Even if they broke for a couple days.
This chick's roommate was the girlfriend that cheated on me. She literally told me after some time but before that, she gave all the hints. BP me never knew.
empatheticapathetic 6y ago
If a girl ever made such a blatant 'joke' she has no respect for you. You can figure out the rest.
donkey_democrat 6y ago
Yeah, that's the implication behind the "banter" that makes it scary. She might think he will laugh because he will view it as just banter, but in reality she is venting about him and attacking his low value. I would consider it a subtle hint that the relationship is in trouble.
empatheticapathetic 6y ago
It's a test to see if you're smart enough to 'protect' her. If you fail, what have you lost? You've gained experience.
Morphs_ 6y ago
And how exactly do you do this protecting?
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
Methods for controlling hypergamy:
Let a woman's partner Paddle her ass when she mouths off or gets out of line and kill her if she cheats.
Have the elders stone her at the city gate if she becomes a wayward wife.
Pick one.
Morphs_ 6y ago
Say you picked 3, does that mean you grow old and lonely as your SMV starts to drop over time? That's my gripe with TRP concept, the implicated loneliness over time. No family. Or do you still settle down when you're in your 50s/60s?
Shaman6624 6y ago
3 doesn't control it though it's just a method of coping with an unescapable unpleasant reality.
But i get your point.
You can also view hypergamy as something positive. Because it means that if a woman wants to fuck you/screams your name when she cums that she see's you as high value and that is a high in itself. That's what we do it for right.
empatheticapathetic 6y ago
You are smart enough to read between the lines of her banter. It's a shit test.
[deleted]
[deleted]
[deleted] 6y ago
Are we in same age bracket? Im 40something and soccer moms and yoga milfs are my wheelhouse
quicklogaccount 6y ago
Nope. I'm 30. Damn.
I wonder if these husbands had a shot of knowing them their wives first started cheating.
UrsusG 6y ago
This.
The young cheating girl might still feel a pang of guilt, might be just bad at lying, or might actually want to let you know to cause drama.
The 30+ married woman will cheat without batting an eye, with zero changes in behavior, zero guilt (what guilt lol). She will go home and strategically give her husband some pacifying sex a few hours after she gave it to you, to preempt suspicion.
antariusz 6y ago
It’s because the 30 year old has had bad experiences in the past at having been caught out, and wants to avoid that unpleasantness again.
The girl in her 20s doesn’t regret her actions, she regrets getting caught.
oak_water 6y ago
My wife cheated, then on her way home asked if I wanted her to pick up any late night snacks for a movie night. She's 30.
AlphaGrad 6y ago
That's so true...three years ago I would have scoffed this off. But after TRP and multiple women, marriage is mostly a joke. I mostly go for married women (24+ years old) instead of 16-22 year old girls. Chastity and fidelity is encouraged and socially reinforced here, in India. But I believe that ALL women are D.T.F. as long as you can keep a secret and you catch them at the right time of their monthly cycle. Also, cucking other man by bedding their wives/gfs is enlightening.
[deleted] 6y ago
my go to attitude with these types of ladies is fun, easygoing and non judgemental. They dont fear emotional punishment from me no matter what because I treat them like sexdolls and they can't disappoint me because I have no need for them other than fun
[deleted] 6y ago
Years ago, I recall the moment I fully took the pill. I had been lurking and reading and definitley saw the probable truth of what was said here but surely not all of it was true was it??????
Well, I had hacked my wife's email the week before. I never would have done that before as a beta herb trusting good husband
I asked her an question that already knew and that didn't have much consequence and she lied.
She didn't break eye contact. Didn't swallow hard or look away. Flawless lie that she probably believed when saying it
AWALT
[deleted] 6y ago
The VAST majority of my subs and plates are married women that aren't getting what they need at home. Like, 80-90%
The absolute coldhearted blatant rationalizations and lies that allow them to come and get dominated and have fun kinky sex show just how little they care for some smurfy idiot that puts beer and sports on tv over properly fucking their wife.
It's a combo of doing what they have to to get what they need, and an undercurrent of hatred toward beta Billy Beergut, with a slight helping of "fuck I love sneaking around" on the side.
I don't blame them. They're women.
If you aren't being everything to your woman, just what the hell do you think she'll do when she realizes shes not getting what she needs?
Your fault.
A FR... I was fucking a plate (not a sub - subs LOVE anal domination) doggystyle in the ass ("I never let my husband take my ass!"). Her phone rang. I commanded her to answer it and not stop pushing back against my cock. She proceeded to have an award worthy conversation with BB about how she was having drinks with her gf and wouldn't be home for an hour, all the while sinking my dick deep over and over. She put the phone down, I told her to come in the next 5 seconds, started counting down. Got to 3, squirt extravaganza. She deserves an Oscar. Hope Billy Beergut likes my sperm dripping out of her ass as she sits on his fat face.
You don't fuck your wife right, I will.
[deleted] 6y ago
“The VAST majority of my subs and plates are married women that aren't getting what they need at home. Like, 80-90%”
I agree with the point about fucking your wife well, but do not underestimate marriage. A coworker did this for a while, and it ended with his skull fractured. He didn’t realize the husband was on the way home.
[deleted] 6y ago
We see the same things out there because thats reality
kasper138 6y ago
You talk like it's fucking difficult or something. They are all whores but then again in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
BokehClasses 6y ago
Just fucking lol. This sub always blames the men. The men have to be god-teir top 1%ers just to keep a bitch loyal.
Women are absolved of responsibility.
Ask yourself this: are your plates loyal to you? Fuck no. Women change everyday based on their feelz. Sometimes they feel like getting dominated by you. Sometimes they want to make love. Sometimes they just want a new color dick.
If your advice was legit your plates would be loyal to you. But they aren't. And it's not your fault. They are just women.
[deleted] 6y ago
MGTOW much?
Yes. Blame yourself for your failings. You're a man. Everything that happens to you is YOUR FAULT.
That's sort of the fundamental message here. Wake up and realize that its on you to be what you want to be.
You actually put the words women and responsibility in the same sentence. You don't understand the basic nature of women just by stating this.
Plates... loyal? No. They're plates. By definition they are there for sex. I don't get to tell them what to do anymore than they can tell me what to do. Loyalty is automatically excluded when you use the term plate.
Subs and wife... hell yes I require loyalty. How do I ensure it to the best of my ability? By being the most awesome motherfucker they know. Clear boundaries. So, yes, you have to strive to be top tier to achieve loyalty. Which is what you should be striving for in life anyway regardless of your pussy situation. If she cheats, no big deal, I am the prize and it's her loss. I'm the highest branch in her world.
To add another reach around, having a woman stray means that you didn't do your job... you either did not vet your decision to made her more than a plate, or you aren't as hot shit as you thought you were... again, it's all ON YOU.
Your comment is all over the place and clearly shows you don't understand the terminology, dynamics, and goals of TRP.
Try read and internalize information before making yourself look the fool for misunderstanding basic tenents.
j_arbuckle2012 6y ago
Who do I need to kill to upvote this 1000 more times?
Sex matters. Proper fucking goes a long way in keeping her around.
Got any recommendations on resources to learn how to Dom from for the noobs?
BrownGummyBear 6y ago
Watching "how to eat pussy like a champ" from Jon Jeremy took my oral sex game to a whole new level. Highly recommend it to anyone trying to improve.
j_arbuckle2012 6y ago
That one vid with Nina Hartley is still the best in that regard, IMO.
BrownGummyBear 6y ago
The movie is great because you'll learn different techniques. I've found some girls like some techniques more than others. 100% success rate of making them orgasm with my mouth so far
[deleted] 6y ago
Big ask, buddy.
Takes years to become a competent Dom.
First, you have to cultivate the personality. Subs can smell fake Doms from a mile away. So you have to truly be an alpha, truly believe you're the prize, believe that you are the most special and unique motherfucker on the planet. Sounds douchey, but there it is.
That's where most Fake doms stop. Irrational self confidence without anything to back it up. LARPers. Fortunately easy to spot.
You have to realize your sub is trusting you. Absolutely. That's an important intimate bond. You are now in complete charge of both the experience and her safety.
So... it's NOT ABOUT YOU. Your enjoyment comes through her. Sure, you can fuck her drained sweaty body after, or even during, but it's not about you. Focusing on yourself is a recipe for disaster because you're not focusing on the scene.
You. You have all the chips. You have all the responsibility. That's a heavy load. The reason subs are subs is they love that feeling of NOT being in control... they enter a reality known as "subspace" where altered power dynamics and altered signal processing create a "zone." Look up safewords and the stoplight system for some commonsense guidelines.
Again, it's your job to read this event, create the subspace conditions, and maintain that headspace without falling over the edge and yanking them out prematurely, all the while keeping safety as your ultimate goal.
It's mentally tough to be able to create and maintain these conditions, all the while looking toward the next step and considering aftercare. Physically tough because the technical aspects of bondage and flogging open their very own rabbit holes of technical skill - you have to be able to roll up to the edge without going over.. and where that edge is is a constantly moving target, even the same sub has different limits day to day. Also must consider the time constraints... a technically flawless shibari chest harness with an integrated two column behind the back arm tie looks and feels amazing, but it takes 1/2 hr to do right. She'll fall out of subspace unless you can distract her during.
A BIG part of it is psychological. You have to get into their head, use what you know, push buttons and drive the experience. Blindfolds and gags are particularly effective because they "take away" their illusion of control even more. I was a psyche major and have a dark triad personality so I love this aspect of fucking with their minds.
I mentioned aftercare. When a scene is done... the sub falls out of her precious subspace and needs to live in the real world again. This is an emotionally and physically draining event, shame and exhaustion and doubt and just raw emotions can come pouring out. Aftercare attempts to minimize these negative emotions by ensuring your sub is being cared for and will continue to be cared for. I don't care that I just pissed in your mouth while calling you a dirty cunt while flogging your ass, aftercare will have you take her in your arms and condition her to the fact her Dom does care for her.
I love it. It's a massive amount of work, from developing intricate collaring rituals and rules to running the entire show, but I love being in control, reading the situation, bringing someone up to that edge and being the asshole that gets to say whether she can come or not....
It makes me happy. It makes women happy. All good, but a lot of work. Like everything worthwhile, there is a cost.
Speaking of costs, I have about $2000 into toys, buttplugs, fucking machines, medical kit, whips, floggers, suction apparatus, ropes, suspension gear... the toys (tools of the trade) matter.
As far as resources, reddit has 3 BDSM subs that are useful, And there are a million blogs out there.
You do kind of have to find your own way, though... like all things.
The trust after is amazing.
j_arbuckle2012 6y ago
That was an awesome post man! Thanks!
The more I turn it over in my mind, I am beginning to believe that Dominance and kink are two separate things.
You talk about character and responsibility. In my own life, with my own subs, I would say the thing that most mattered to them was never the scene itself. It was me assuming responsibility for the experience combined with the fact that the most powerful female aphrodisiac is raw, uninhibited, ruthlessly expressive male sexuality. It is my firm belief that this male sexual expression at its core is nothing more than capital 'D' Dominance. The kink? The whips, chains, ropes, gags, etc.? Accoutrements. Garnish, really.
I want your thoughts on this. Am I on the right track or am I off the mark? Are my subs actually subs or have I just been having flavorful, but vanilla sex?
[deleted] 6y ago
You get it.
Goes back to the old Oscar Wilde quote,"Everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power.”
The experience is the power dynamic. Which is fucking twisted because if you really think about it, the sub has the ultimate power by using her safeword to shut it all down. (They're women... don't think too hard about this, their world is illusion and emotion.)
All the scene setup, the toys, the psychological torture, the pain... all window dressing.
Dominance is the desire they require.
[deleted] 6y ago
Depending on how hard you go - the psychological aftercare is the most important. Learning to trust her ability to use safe words is also key. Actually was and is my biggest struggle. Girls need to know that you will shield them from the monster that lurks With the monster that lurks.
Little tasks that are not directly sexual are also key. "Go close the door" - "bring my tools "
"This is your last choice for the next while "
Building and maintaining sub space takes a lot of work. And - you have to teach them that sometimes you're not up to it and that's ok- because next time it will be Even better than before
[deleted] 6y ago
The little day to day conditioning re. the power dynamic are key.
This. Operant conditioning. Your "bell" should have her salivating.
And being able to say,"no"... is sometimes the most dominant move of all.
One of my go-to's when I'm not feeling all Dommy and energetic is to have her kneel and blow me while I chill on the couch. Her focus is required on my dick, I get to lie back and enjoy.
Still subby, but my involvement can be minimal. During blowjobs, my rule is if she lets it come out of her mouth, she gets slapped in the face, then must continue. Again, easy for me, keeps the dynamic.
[deleted] 6y ago
ever try the nose pinch while she is down there? works wonders.
Slevenn711 6y ago
Love this post. This concept was discussed briefly in Rocco (documentary on Netflix about Rocco Siffredi). It may look like he has all the power, but really the sub (her) is the one getting the most out of it. I'd recommend everyone watch it.
[deleted] 6y ago
Have it. Nice rec.
Since I'm thinking about it, there are a few beginner recs I'll throw out there.
Kink.com is a massive site, but there are subreddits within.
'Kink University" is a very beginner focused sub that discusses a lot of newbie issues and scenes.
"Sex and submission" has a lot of great scene ideas.
Elise Graves is my favorite model. Not really a hottie, but you can actually see her transition in and out of subspace, and the difference in her pain/pleasure signal processing when she does. Watching this model will teach you a lot about the sub headspace. Study all this girl's movies.
There's a James Franco docu out there called Kink that's worth a watch.
PD, a former psych prof turned Dom for "insex.com" is a master. Huge amount of ideas and predicaments. He's a mindfuck master. My wife/primary sub says he simultaneously fascinates and scares the shit out of her. I bought a welder because of PD.
Thankfully, there's a documentary out there about him called Graphic Sexual Horror. Fascinating. Forewarning - it's heavy.
PaperStreetVilla 6y ago
Not sure how it was missed for so long, but flairing member
brinkleybuzz 6y ago
The power of the rationalization hamster. She probably convinced herself that the lie was the truth.
lopsidedlucky 6y ago
This is their true nature. It's almost frightening.
Thomaskingo 6y ago
Do you have a post with the full story?
[deleted] 6y ago
someplace im sure...ill look
--Edog-- 6y ago
Same here - i had a gps program on her phonte that i could track and record her movements. Asked her where she went on a certain day - she lied without batting and eye.
Morphs_ 6y ago
Did you ever find out if she was cheating on you? Did you ever bring up the fact that she lied?
--Edog-- 6y ago
Tracked her to a law school run by friends of ours. I am sure she wasn't meeting for lunch. More likely advice about divorce.
[deleted]
__reboot 6y ago
It ain't cheatin' if you're platin' as Billy the Chad hillbilly would say
drty_pr 6y ago
I've been thinking as of late it's better for your image to cheat, on the chance she is aswell; opposed to finding out she was and being that guy socially.
[deleted] 6y ago
I'm old school and prefer to keep my affairs private and I don't kiss and tell.
That's why I tell you guys.
drty_pr 6y ago
I'm not saying kiss and tell, but should it get blown up, I'd rather be the former over the latter in my comment
[deleted] 6y ago
If my wife were cheating and it came out publicly, I would be laughing out loud and telling everyone what a dumbass she is.
SkorchZang 6y ago
It's kinda a big mindfuck at first, because women will try their utmost to convince you they're not like that, and you can absolutely expect fidelity from HER. Eyes sparkling and all, she really 100% believes it about herself. Of course the very next day she might wake up, feeeeeel different and it's all gone out of the window.
The fog lifts when you take the red pill and realize she's just saying what she needs to say in the moment to get what she wants: more commitment. Once she gets it & you're more invested, anything she said to get it is a moot point nobody remembers/cares about. Women are not accountable for any promise they make in the sexual arena. When she breaks it, there won't be the slightest reprimand facing her socially, in fact she will be told "you go gurl, he sounds abusive trying to hold you to your word like that, he deserved it".
jackandjill22 6y ago
Bro, the last thing before this girl ran off with 1k worth of my clothes was, "I'm not going to steal them from you."
Shaman6624 6y ago
Men aren't acountable for broken promises either.
abc69 6y ago
Tell that to the guy that was taken to divorce court and forced to pay for a car he had promised to his ex-wife while they were still married
[deleted]
[deleted]
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Eventually you realise that EVERYTHING women are saying is designed to get a result, and truth is an inconvenience to be worked around.
Everything is designed to get her status, or reduce your options, or increase your opinion of her.
She doesn't want to be directly caught in a lie.... but other than that, the rest of what she says is complete fabrication. And she bases this on the knowledge YOU have. If you didn't see her cheat, she isn't a cheater and never would. If another girl cheats "not all women are like that!".
If you corner her in a lie or in cheating, she'll just break down and cry and explain why she's a victim of the world and it's not her fault.
Or any other arena.
Female promises should be ignored because they are worthless. What's the consequences of breaking that promise? Absolutely nothing. Cheating? Not taking the pill? Lying? Zero consequences to her.
The trick is to live your life accordingly.
Women lie? Don't ask them anything and don't base your life on her words.
Women cheat? Don't expect anything else.
Women betray their husbands and cheat and divorcerape men? Don't get married.
[deleted] 6y ago
All true and its more reason to just accept it and enjoy women for the danger and play they do provide
Jigsus 6y ago
This is a key thing in understanding women. They're not lying. They 100% believe what they're telling you.
Noobs will be angry because they think they are being lied to. But the truth is you have to abandon such simple notions.
What you think someone is going to say "oh not I won't sleep with this guy because I declared my love to my bf last week"? They'll just act on their own feelings in that moment and then hamster an explanation.
Jummiho 6y ago
So fucking true. Women will act on the moment and on how they feel. They can rationalize ANYTHING afterwards.
kankouillotte 6y ago
often along the lines of "he doesn't fuck me well enough, i need more/different sex", just as simple as that
FerrusMan 6y ago
Noobs are angry they are being lied to, because they ARE being lied to! Hence the justified anger that happens.
Whether a woman believes she is telling the truth or not, does not negate the fact that she is lying to her husband or boyfriend. What they believe, does not matter.
And you know what, a lot of women lie all the time, and know it. And they assume everyone else in life, men included, think the same way. I'm not trying to convince you of this, but I would invite you to think about this for a bit. Yes they will act on their own feelings, all the time actually, and for sure hamster an explanation. When a woman cheats on her husband, and lies about it to her husband afterwards, that's lying. And she damn well knows it.
You've got the feelings part down, where a woman will act on her feelings at the moment, and justify it afterward. But you have no idea just how devious women are capable of being.
Jigsus 6y ago
When she cheats and lies after it's lying.
When she tells you how much she loves you and wants to be with you forever it's not a lie because she believes that and it hasn't been proven wrong yet.
Phiend4Phoes 6y ago
Very much this.
Looking (way) back at a previous BP relationshit, when we discussed whether to be gf/bf or what, she said and I quote "There aren't anyone else I want to be with right now"
Some times you should actually listen to which words are being used.
[deleted]
Jigsus 6y ago
In my experience it's a waste of time to listen to the words. It's true that they may tell you something if you look at them carefully but it's not worth the brain power. The only true indicator are their actions.
You can have the meanest bitchiest girl of all time that's verbally aggressive to everyone around her. If she cuddles up to you and follows you then you know what's the true status of your relationship with her. I'll take that over a manic pixie dream girl that will shit all over your life while telling you how much you're the love of her life.
Phiend4Phoes 6y ago
I do agree that as a rule we should look at their actions first and foremost. But in hindsight, they keep dropping subtle hints at the truth. And I've caught myself doing stuff like that as well in some situations. Everybody enjoys feeling smarter than the other party, and amusing yourself at others unknowing expense is a very human thing to do. I'm not saying analyze everything they say, us males tend to over-analyze constantly, but be aware that they might do this as well.
An example of how I've done it recently: We have a new free seating policy at work and I've lost my office. A popular TV show had the same thing happen and the workers did not enjoy it at all. The main character resigned and I've decided to do the same. My boss and I were discussing our company's new policies and I asked him if he watched that show yesterday. He said no and asked what happened. Said I didn't want to spoil it. It doesn't really matter to me whether he figures it out or not, I'm handing in my resignation soon any way
Jigsus 6y ago
Oh yeah I've had aha moments years after relationships have ended but I try not to waste my energy. There isn't much to gain from that exercise.
VickVaseline 6y ago
What is a "free seating policy?" I've never heard of that.
Phiend4Phoes 6y ago
Nobody gets designated office spaces, so every desk has to be cleaned every day. Everyone can sit anywhere in the now open landscape. I went from having a cozy office with a great view, stereo, lots of screens and stuff, to having to sit in the middle of 20 cackling wamen constantly going on about mundane shit. Oh, and Ive received many complaints about my expensive noise canceling headset being too loud when I try to block them out. I could go on, but theres no point, Im just gonna quit.
lopsidedlucky 6y ago
Good to put this out there. New betas on here will argue that you're wrong and good women aren't like that. Little do they know all women are like that.
TheReformist94 6y ago
[deleted] 6y ago
My ex wife used to hamster that because I'd look at porn, she was justified to fuck other men. Yes that makes me a cuck. AWALT.
Worst of all she'd say "I'm going to cheat on you" when angry. I thought she was just angry ...
Lessons learned:
thefisherman1961 6y ago
Sounds like she cheated on you and then tried to use you looking at porn as a way for her hamster to justify her actions.
[deleted]
[deleted] 6y ago
[deleted]
FruitSalad1010 6y ago
The only thing more likely to get her to use it as a revenge tactic is you saying don't use it as a revenge tactic. You're basically feeding her ideas for shit tests. The only lines worth drawing are real ones that you will enforce and often they don't even need to be voiced out loud, people can sense a point of no return. Honestly the whole idea is mute, it comes across as rationalisation if she's fucking someone else why would you even care move on. Women aren't men your history indicates value and attests to the fact you will have options beyond her. She won't feel short changed until she feels like she has to take charge because of your inability to lead nor will she be out to get you unless you're failing.
datshitcray69 6y ago
Can you go into more detail about inability to lead.. do you mean just with planning things or making decisions or does it go deeper than that?
I do well financially etc.
FruitSalad1010 6y ago
On a day to day basis yes planning and making decisions, doing what needs to be done. Own what is yours and divide up the tasks accordingly in order to live how you want to live. Over time however set goals which extend beyond where shall we have dinner tonight. This might be the next holiday or where are we going to move to. Have a very clear idea in your mindset how you want to live your life and make it so.
Be cautious when asking for advice, make sure you are not in fact asking someone to decide, that's your job. Your life, your decisions. People like to run on autopilot and making good decisions requires effort. I am happy to make decisions but as the old saying goes don't do something for nothing. My decision making skills in exchange for your... whatever it may be. Never let yourself be devalued, be very aware of what value you bring, be-it looks, money, status, security. Words can be weaponised in order to devalue non-tangible assets. Call it out when it happens and call it out HARD.
In your case it might be clearly pointing out why a higher number of partners is desirable, women like you. In which case future women will like your kids and they will have a better quality selection of mates and so the cycle continues. It's also clear that if she sleeps with other people you cannot guarantee your genes will be passed on HARD NEXT. This really depends on your goals but for anyone embarking on a LTR where you might expect to raise offspring infidelity is non-negotiable. One night stand then it's largely irrelevant apart from STDs and even then you can control what you're not willing to risk.
A phrase I always run in the back ground is does this person need xyz or do they simply want xyz. Make your own filter and when someone doesn't need something it's ok to say no or disagree.
You'll know when you're valuable and when you're not. The day it's over isn't the day you're arguing, it's the day no one is there to argue with, i.e. they/you left.
Lastly because of the very nature of the question I must stress you do all of the above for YOU, not to "keep her from straying". It's her job to not stray, it's your job to build a nice life for yourself. Either she's on board or she's drowning with the other fish you didn't invite on deck.
uebermacht 6y ago
Saved!
http://archive.is/5B0YG
AudioTRP21 6y ago
My ex wife was a chronic cheater, and I was young and dumb and kept taking her back, believing her tears and cries that she had changed. Eventually left with some guy she was banging (take a little comfort in knowing she did it to him too about 2 years later and tried running back to me). There was one time she went to "run errands" and we had sex when she got home and she felt different - like I could tell she'd already fucked that day. I brought it up and she threw this Oscar-worthy performance, running to the bathroom in tears, pulling out cranberry pills, throwing them at me and saying I wouldn't understand having a yeast infection, then crumbling to the floor in tears. I felt terrible, but I decided to keep investigating. Got hard evidence about 2 weeks later. That was the first time of 4 times I knew for a fact it happened (suspected at least 4 other times, but couldn't get the drop on her).
So my next gf I just KNEW was different, and I absolutely believe she was faithful... For about the first 3.5 years. Then, like all women, she got bored, and we were going through a rough patch (which will always make them significantly more inclined to hop on another dick - "you asked for it, asshole! You basically ran me into his arms!" Her friends and family will also encourage this sentiment as she gradually starts dragging your name through the mud so she won't look like a whore, but rather "strong, and brave!").
One night her "girlfriends" took her out to the bar for her birthday, and she was only going to be there until 10 or 11. I now realize this is how she got me to consent to letting her go out alone; she knew if she just made it look like a couple birthday beers with the girls, and she'd be home right around bedtime, I'd feel comfortable letting her go alone. I fall asleep around 10, knowing she'll be home any minute now, wake up and it's 3 am, so I call and am like where tf are you, are you okay?! She says her friends got her too drunk so she was going to stay outside and sober up. I offered to come pick her up and she refused, because "she didn't want me to be tired in the morning".... Finally gets home somewhere around 5:45/6 that morning. No affection, no apology, kept her distance. So you're telling me a 110lb blonde girl loitered outside of a closed bar for at least 4 hours in the middle of the fucking night, and no one gave you trouble, and no cop drove by and wondered what in the flying fuck was going on???? C'mon! She was smarter than my ex wife, so I was never able to get hard evidence on her, but I know that where there's smoke there's fire, even if you can't quite locate it. She ended up breaking it off about 6 months later because she wanted to be "independent for awhile"... You don't end a 4.5 year relationship where you're already talking about marriage and kids to "be single"... You do it because you decided to ride the cock carousel.
To get over her I've banged girls with boyfriends, fiances who were engaged to be married in a couple weeks, girls with young kids that were fresh out of dumping their baby's father... You name it. Each one talking shit about the man they're with. Partly, like I said - to get over her. But mainly to collect data and prove to myself I wasn't fucking imagining things - I had only been on the receiving end, so maybe I was a piece of shit like they said, and women were loyal if I didn't suck as bad as I apparently did? Surely that was the case, since that's what both LTRs insisted upon... Nevertheless, all data I collected shows that it's a cold hard fact that absolutely AWALT and they'll gladly spread their legs for some fresh cock at the drop of a hat. Shocking, I know. I'm sure all of them went back home to their man and told him how much of a piece of shit he was after I railed their pussies until they were cumming all over me. Maybe even fucked him and got off on the fact she banged 2 guys in one day. But I bet he wasn't smart enough to bring up the fact that she felt different...
Stay vigilant, gentlemen. They will ALL eventually do it to you too.
[deleted] 6y ago
Great rant and story and now you can take comfort knowing that although you likely won't ever find a faithful good girl, you can still have fun and stop beating yourself up over something that doesn't exist
AudioTRP21 6y ago
That's when I finally came to terms with TRP. I knew about it long before my last ex and I split, but I still held hope for a unicorn. Now I know there's truly no point in searching for the Loch Ness Monster, and can enjoy the rest of my time without allowing some woman to waste mine. The last ex displayed everything that would make me think she's different, and even her upbringing and surroundings, if there was someone different, it was her. Arguably far better proof than the idiot whore ex wife.
Morphs_ 6y ago
"To get over her I've banged girls with boyfriends, fiances who were engaged to be married in a couple weeks, girls with young kids that were fresh out of dumping their baby's father... You name it"
So how did you do this? You make it sound so easy to find and pick up those women. Can you share a bit about the locations you picked them up, ways of interacting, your attitude towards them, etc.
AudioTRP21 6y ago
Couple of them I knew from throughout the years. One I met at work, one met while I was out. The ones I knew from the past were the easiest, because it was easy to rebuild a report with them.
Morphs_ 6y ago
Thanks for your info. Then the second question, how do you move from getting into contact again to banging them while knowing they are in a relationship? I guess it requires some form of being very upfront and aggressive in your moves? Did you tell anything about your new way of life?
AudioTRP21 6y ago
Just casually/gradually initiate contact again. Eventually move to talking about how much you miss hanging out with/seeing them. Test the waters in person by saying something like "you know I always really had a thing for you back in __ ". Gauge their response to that. If you can get some good eye contact going you can use facial gestures to pretty blatantly flirt, and if they flirt back, you're more than likely good to make a move. There were ones that definitely didn't play back, so I didn't bother and just fell back off the face of the earth (I don't need a friend, but thanks). You win some, you lose some.
The ones that didn't play back A) just didn't have a thing for me, or B) had a fresh relationship still in the "I'd NEVER cheat on him!" phase. Which will definitely fade eventually. One day, be it a year, 2 years, 5 years, who knows, she'll eventually be bouncing around on some other dude's cock.
Morphs_ 6y ago
Thanks a lot for your info, I appreciate it
[deleted]
ryalln 6y ago
I found out 3 1/5 years plus 9 months to find out the child i loved and adored wasnt mine. My only suggestion to guys with kids is get a DNA test if your ever unsure and never ever tell her you have it.
[deleted] 6y ago
I'd love to see this in FR one day. pls tag me
ryalln 6y ago
Tbh its not a bad idea. Let other guys see what happens when you turn into a beta chump. You can do the "right" thing and come out owing money and have nothing to show. Let me see if I can CBF tonight.
[deleted]
mpw08200 6y ago
I can honestly say that my girlfriend, whom I'm going to marry, isn't like this. Just by a woman's actions in times of stress, you can figure out if or not she's worth your time. I'll be brief.
I imported mine, from Canada. She isn't concerned about social media, to include facebook, instagram, ect. She snapchats like 4 of her friends from college and financially supported us while I wasn't working this summer. All of the chores are taken care of, except cooking which I do because I'm better than her at it. We have discussions that are thought provoking and pivotal to develop us as a couple. I would argue around 99% of women exhibit this behavior that you speak of.
In other words, if you want long term, find one who has enough emotional maturity who doesn't display red flags. This is an easy process.
NapalmSunshine 6y ago
The fact that she financially supported you almost guarantees that she’ll cheat.
NotAnotherSJWAgain 6y ago
My friend this is all marketing. She wants something you have. You’ll find out what you had that she wanted once she stops needing it or wanting it.
BillSander 6y ago
Lolz. Who wants to put money down on this?
iamtheswoop 6y ago
Man, I get where your coming from the idealistic love believing in your woman. Maybe that's why men only change when they've gone through enough pain, otherwise they just walk into relationships with the deer in the headlights. But I'm just telling you this, every guy I know in a longer relationship than 5 years is either miserable or divorced...it doesn't get better, that first time with her is magic and it's all downhill from there. Follow the 48 laws of power, never commit.
vengefully_yours 6y ago
Yeah, she's different. Does she weigh less than me? If no then you might have a keeper... might. Fat chicks chase me too. If she's under 130lbs, you're a place mat. You can delude yourself all you want, but no the bitch isn't special.
MonkeysOnARock 6y ago
-2 Years Later-
"She just wasn't the one I guess"
[deleted] 6y ago
lmao
[deleted] 6y ago
and here we go......mods get ready. This special guy met a very unique woman
[deleted]
Putins_Orange_Cock 6y ago
I feel so sorry for you... deal with your divorce better than i did mine.
[deleted]
[deleted]
[deleted]
Lord-Kek 6y ago
RemindMe! 2 years. Is u/mpw08200 a snowflake or has reality sunk in.
[deleted] 6y ago
He may just remember this night, come back here and absorb and be 2019 Shitlord
Sir_Distic 6y ago
If your health declines she will be gone. If she feels you aren't man enough, masculine enough, a strong enough leader, a rock in the hard times .... she will walk out of your life. Ride rather. Riding another man's dick into the sunset.
You cannot change women. You cannot say AWALT but MINE is different. All women. Your girlfriend/fiance is not special. She is not a unicorn. She is subject to biology. You can think like every guy who has ever been divorce raped. "It'll never happen to me. My girl is different!"
[deleted] 6y ago
The girl is never ever different
Sometimes, the man is
mpw08200 6y ago
I literally have nothing to give her or have that she wants. Lost my high paying job over summer and she's been financially supporting us. It is what it is but the hate here is bold.
[deleted]
HS-Thompson 6y ago
Good luck with that.
In your defense there are actually women who are way higher quality and more loyal than others. But all women have tendencies and you can never let your guard down.
No, never.
It sounds like you have let your guard down, and this weakness will be the crack that eventually opens up and destroys your relationship. There are no exceptions to this rule.
[deleted] 6y ago
[deleted]
HS-Thompson 6y ago
She's not yours, son, it's just your turn for awhile.
[deleted] 6y ago
I may have replied to your reply to a retard and thought it for me.
My bad
ChrisKimchee 6y ago
What if you dont care if you have an open relationship? If you both do it whats the issue? Sex is only as meaningful as you make it. Time spent together could be way more important.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
Paraphrasing Sarah connor: No plate but what we make.
Davidskylarkk 6y ago
Jesus man the fuckin feminazis have completely taken over!
[deleted] 6y ago
That's pretty much what we call dating
[deleted] 6y ago
It's not important... until it is.
If for example you think you're going to LTR, marry or happen to impregnate her, then you're stuck with a woman who wants to and will fuck lots of other people .
Or consider why she sticks with you as "bf" and not side piece-- she's probably getting the most out of you. The most means money/resources. She'll make you pay for dinner, drinks, etc. But make no mistake that her side Dicks do not sacrifice half of what you do. Does that make you feel like a man? To know that she'll spread and get wet for nothing, but for you, you must pay for it. It's fun to find and open woman. It's no fun taking care of her.
DouglasPR 6y ago
I've did and seen my friends doing women that had boyfriends, fiancees, husbands. They gave absolute zero fucks about the sucker back home paying the bills. AWALT, I have no illusions in my LTR, she can cheat, or may have cheated without me having a clue. This is specially true when they travel alone or with groups of female friends.
[deleted] 6y ago
[deleted]
I_Need_More_Space_ 6y ago
Genuinely happy while blissfully ignorant and married? Right. Right. That's why so many married couples pontificate to everyone they encounter how happy and perfect their lives are. The happiest people I've met have never been the ones who pose and smile for the camera trying to capture the perfect facade. The happiest people I've met were the ones who would be ok with dying today if that's what life threw at them.
p3n1x 6y ago
Those skinny fat cargo shorts new balance sketchers dudes are not "genuinely happy". The are in denail and self medicate the depression away with bullshit "fun times".
[deleted]
[deleted]
toomuchsaws 6y ago
I stop by here about once a month for kicks. It's posts like this that really do it for me. It's quite amusing to see what you actually believe to be true and spread it like some gospel.
[deleted] 6y ago
Glad you got a chuckle. Just know we don't care what you think and will continue without your approval
toomuchsaws 6y ago
That is fine. There is nothing wrong with being incorrect about something from time to time, only with having the hubris to not acknowledge that you were.
cashmoney_x 6y ago
The day to day interactions you have with women; the things they say en masse? The things they espouse/claim to believe?
All an illusion. You don't understand female nature, I'm telling you.
toomuchsaws 6y ago
Once again, anyone on this forum can exchange with me who they are, and in return, I can exchange who I am. This can also apply to you cashmoney_x. That way we can discern for ourselves with whom women would rather speak. Of course, I know this will never happen, because when it is time for the strong, (because, you know, they lift so much) red-pilled people on the internet to "put there money where their mouth is" they won't because of the confidence they lack. Unless you are some Adonis, my money is on that the woman would rather be approached by me.
[deleted]
[deleted] 6y ago
You've probably tasted my sticky happy juice.
Keep doing you, though.
toomuchsaws 6y ago
I am a young, attractive, confident man in law school. I doubt I associate with the same "class" of women that you do. (Women of ill repute)
You do you, though. Take what you can get.
[deleted] 6y ago
Good for you. A schoolboy. I'm sure you have life all figured out. You've been an adult for what.. 2 years now?
Means you should be able to read and research.
So do yourself a favor and research AWALT.
No such thing as a "classy" woman. You're making the huge bluepill assumption that since you're so special(you're not), you'll find a special girl(you won't-no such thing) and live happily ever after.(No way with that naive attitude.)
"Women of ill repute"?
Dost thou even hoist, or does the fedora preclude that beastly endeavour? We're all just meatsacks.
You have a lot of growing up to do.
You already have women divided into Madonnas and whores, and you've placed the Madonnas so high up on your very own pedestal that you think only you wearing your special white knight ren fair outfit that your mom made for you are good enough for them. I doubt you've even been inside a woman.
Why are you even here if all you do is complain about how wrong this sub is, but don't do any of the work?
You're a waste of space here.
toomuchsaws 6y ago
Also, you say I do not put in any of the "work" that is offered here. For some people, interpersonal relationships just happen more naturally than with others. I actually learn and grow from experience. There is no work involved. I can approach and adapt speaking to a variety of people from different socioeconomic backgrounds. We can swap each other's pictures or information if you would like so that you can better understand why I was afforded more opportunities to approach or be approached since I was much younger. The more opportunities that one is given to develop social skills provides one with experience that cannot just be learned and imitated from reading on a forum. But continue your ad hominem attacks and assumptions about me. That is how your pick yourself up, isn't it? By attempting to bring others down?
toomuchsaws 6y ago
You are making assumptions about my age and background that are incorrect as well, but I suppose that is a character trait of yours. I am BACK in school in my late twenties to increase my earning potential. I never claimed to be a snowflake or special. These are things you deduced (poorly). I have worked in the public and private sector. I have forgotten more about women than you will probably know or understand. I don't, nor would I ever "white knight." Women are not on a pedestal for me, they are just other people. AWALT is a blue-pilled theory that RP'ers use to generalize behavior that they don't comprehend. I am not claiming to understand the behavior of all women, or anyone for that matter, myself. Your ad hominem attacks further prove a lack of self-confidence that you still possess, but you will learn with time. You are preaching knowledge from your soapbox, yet your personal attacks display the "beta" quality of insecurity. And anyone can see that.
Of course, I did say "class" of women. Not "classy" women. But one would have to have a semblance of reading comprehension to get that.
p3n1x 6y ago
Dropping credentials to prove you belong in a conversation does not show any wisdom or "class". How does a child in law school have time for Reddit bickering? All of your replies put you 100% in /u/Triadis3 frame. You would be decimated in court right now.
[deleted]
[deleted] 6y ago
The reason I tug the tails of these internet tigers is a test.
If your frame explodes like a Prince Rupert's drop, because some internet asshole called you a faggot, and then your ego protection hamster jumps out and screams louder than everyone else until you can scramble to pick up the pieces of your fragile frame again, well that says a lot.
Just look at how telling his responses are...
He doesn't need to work on interpersonal relationships... he's a natural and incomprehensibly better that anyone here.
He's forgotten more about women than I'll ever know. As a loser on his second career who's not even 30... Right.
The minute some douche puts "ad hominem" in a post, he loses all credibility with me because he's a parroting follower. Turn the page of your vocabulary calendar.
Attacking my personality without checking my post history is another hallmark of an out of control ego monster flailing.
Offering to compare dicks and requesting my picture is indicative of small dick syndrome.. he'd simply post up if there was any validity to what he said. Furthermore... there IS a pic of me and a bio on the very first page when you open my post history.. I have Nothing to hide. Me
This guy exists for his own ego and doesn't even realize he's being retarded, all the while offering nothing to the community and actually is close to rule zero violating himself into a ban.
I'm here because I want to help people, my experience gives me a unique perspective. Do I have a big ego? Damn right I do. I'm the most awesome asshole I know. But I've worked hard for it and know when to drop it to learn... big difference.
But, some children have their head so far up their own asses they can't hear anything because their ears are plugged with their own shit.
I know this guy is a lost cause, which is why there's no use banging my head against this particular wall, game over.
Doesn't mean I stop trying to wake up other souls.
Just need to test first to see if I'm likely wasting my time. And sometimes I just piss into the wind.
I hope he wakes up someday.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
He will when his one true love cheats and he doesn't know.
toomuchsaws 6y ago
Yes, small dick syndrome, that is the one. This makes you correct, because you implied someone has a small dick. All of your arguments are non sequitur and are based on assumptions. Mine are based on the actual substance of your posts or the things you have said. But, attack the straw man, since you cannot think of anything more compelling than, "I'm right, you're wrong." Which, simply, doesn't hold up well.
toomuchsaws 6y ago
Of couse, I knew you would prefer anonymity. If people could actually see you, you would lose all credibility. People would say, "Wait, I'm taking advice from this guy."
You don't have a face, dog. So, what exactly are women attracted too? Hahaha.
[deleted] 6y ago
how can one put a photo up that is untracable
[deleted]
[deleted]
[deleted]
[deleted] 6y ago
No woman would ever cheat on you in their right mind if you are the best of the best. If you get cheated on it has got nothing to do with you you're either not the best of the best or she's still hunting. Don't be upset because you got cheated on, not everyone can be the best.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
Tell it to brad pitt/ Tyler durdon \ Achilles.
M7A1-RI0T 6y ago
Lol the delusion is palpable. If a man cheats it's because he's a pig, if a women cheats it's because the man wasn't the best. Heaven forbid we call her what she is. A whore. Fuck outta here w that horseshit people raise their daughters to perpetuate. I've seen Gods among Men get cheated on. Women live in the moment, and alcohol and attention is a hell of a drug
gELSK 6y ago
// , Cheating has to do with the character of the cheater. This is absolutely incorrect. You could be the best person ever, and there will always be some rationalization for cheaters with bad character to cheat.
Likewise, among the loyal, you could be the worst person ever, and they will still remain loyal to you. I think this trait is not as common among women as it is among men, due to recent cultural shifts, but it's still out there.
[deleted] 6y ago
Women cheat with lesser males all the time if they think they won't get caught and situation presents it self
wtfawdNoWeddingShoes 6y ago
I know this is kind of a stupid question, as it pertains to women's decision making, but... Why? I understand hypergamy and AF/BB but what are they thinking?
askmrcia 6y ago
I think it can be a multitude of things. One it can be they just like the thrill. And If a guy has a lower SMV, well that could make her much less suspicious to cheat with him.
Say you have a LTR and a ugly best friend who has no hobbies. Would you honestly suspect your LTR to cheat with that dude? Nope. That's one reason why they would.
Now you may be thinking, why cheat in the first place if the relationship is going well right? Again this can have multiple answers. She could just want a thrill. Could be just bored. Could just want attention from another guy. She could feel that she has missed out on having sex with multiple guys to see what she wants. She could be getting her needs met from said other guy (gifts or whatever).
Whatever the case is, it comes down to being selfish and narcissistic and sadly we have a lot of women like that.
cashmoney_x 6y ago
They're not thinking; they're feeling/responding to deep seeded instincts.
What the blue pillers seem to forget is that humans are animals.
wtfawdNoWeddingShoes 6y ago
I get that, and it makes hypergamy, AF/BB, and AWALT a lot easier to understand, but women cheating down the SMV scale? Isn't that like.. the opposite of hypergamy? What feeling/instinct/survival mechanism would that serve? The "humans are animals" is actually one of the main things that led me to TRP. I was very interested in evolutionary biology/psychology, and when you look at human behaviors from a detached analytical perspective, things make a lot more sense.
chauncy_popperstein 6y ago
Lots of females cheat without trying to hide it. I know a guy who's girlfriend cheated and then she told one of his friends about it. She did it so he would break up with her. Lots of women don't want to have to break up with a guy (they don't have the stomach for it). But by cheating they can rationalize it by saying "I wasn't happy" and when the guy finds out he breaks up with her. In her eye's it is a "win/win".
cashmoney_x 6y ago
Different guys offer different things. Maybe the guy is "down the smv scale" in your eyes but to her he offers something that could be passed down to her offspring that you don't see.
[deleted] 6y ago
[deleted]
Fedor_Gavnyukov 6y ago
if you still believe that she will actually tell you then you're playing yourself
CanuckinFL 6y ago
Agreed. And tho I’m cynical enough to understand your pitch for ‘relationship honesty’, you’re going to get played in the end, of that I have no doubt. Or you think you can anticipate her deviousness, utterly pointless though it would be. No it will come out sideways, and you’ll be replaced so fast it’ll make your head spin, precisely when you’re at your emotional weakest. Note I’ve not seen my 20’s in 20 odd years. You’re not as crafty, or as slippery with your morals, as they are. I think the whole purpose of the sub is to address guys like you, which was me, who thought ‘nah-I got this.’
No. You don’t.
p3n1x 6y ago
If your "missus" is female, then AWALT. Her biology is not different because you believe you have some rare deep understanding with her.
toomuchsaws 6y ago
AWALT is a blue-pilled theory that RP'ers use to generalize behavior that they don't comprehend.
p3n1x 6y ago
lol
The earth is flat also, because science ...
[deleted]
p3n1x 6y ago
You guys are "open" then. That doesn't make her different. I know the BDSM community. The fact there is a "community" in the first place proves there is no such thing as "different".
Don't let it. One of the most liberating choices I made with TRP.
gELSK 6y ago
// , I don't think you understand the motives of cheating. It's not a sex thing. It's a narcissism thing.
p3n1x 6y ago
It is a sex thing.
When some guy goes against his biology and commits his sexual needs to one person. That guy grows up and realizes he made a grave mistake and that mother nature is a more powerful force. This is not Narcissism, it is a person being lied to and mislead in their early years to believe their is a "special reward" for specific behavior.
If you are lying to your partner and telling them you are with them only, and then having multiple side partners, that far more complex and beyond narcissism.
gELSK 6y ago
// , Cheaters don't enjoy the actual act of sex, so much as the frisson of glee at deluding another person.
You have given no compelling evidence to support the "my missus is different" argument. You had an honest conversation? Everyone is honest until you find out that they're not.
For your sake, of course, I hope you're right. But if not, at least you know where to turn.
Also, I recommend reading this: https://www.chumplady.com/2012/04/the-unified-theory-of-cake/
[deleted]
gELSK 6y ago
// , "Sex Addiction" is so much bullshit. It's a joke, and a laughing stock of the addiction treatment community, another example of "pathologizing" shitty character.
If you have a deep need for sex, and your wife ain't putting out, you divorce, or have a very serious conversation. All else is just trying to rationalize having your cake while eating it, too.
https://www.chumplady.com/2012/04/the-unified-theory-of-cake/
[deleted]
gELSK 6y ago
// , Yeah, I should have cleared that up. There is a difference between desiring to cheat and desiring sex:
Cheating: Achieving sex with a side dish of duping someone who trusted you.
Sexing: Achieving sex
I'm not really sure where this is confusing. Regardless, I hope that whatever backup plans and mental preparations you have stand you in good stead in case you do find something out.
I speak from experience when I say that it is easy to excuse behaviors in someone we trust that we would find suspicious in someone with whom we don't have a history.
Euphoricentia 6y ago
Stacy's mom has got it goin' on Stacy's mom has got it goin' on Stacy's mom has got it goin' on Stacy's mom has got it goin' on
Stacy, can I come over after school? (after school) We can hang around by the pool (hang by the pool) Did your mom get back from her business trip? (business trip) Is she there, or is she trying to give me the slip? (give me the slip)
You know, I'm not the little boy that I used to be I'm all grown up now, baby can't you see
Stacy's mom has got it goin' on She's all I want and I've waited for so long Stacy, can't you see you're just not the girl for me I know it might be wrong but I'm in love with Stacy's mom
Stacy's mom has got it goin' on Stacy's mom has got it goin' on
Stacy, do you remember when I mowed your lawn? (mowed your lawn) Your mom came out with just a towel on (towel on) And the way she said, "You missed a spot over there" (a spot over there)
And I know that you think it's just a fantasy But since your dad walked out, your mom could use a guy like me
Stacy's mom has got it goin' on She's all I want, and I've waited so long Stacy, can't you see you're just not the girl for me I know it might be wrong, but I'm in love with Stacy's mom
Stacy's mom has got it goin' on She's all I want and I've waited for so long, Stacy can't you see your just not the girl for me, I know it might be wrong but oh oh (I know it might be wrong) I'm in love with (Stacy's mom oh oh) (Stacy's mom oh oh) I'm in love with Stacy's mom