The whole thing was a TRP minefield. The victim complex of the women working in the field were the worst. They made the choice to be in porn, could leave at any time yet were moaning constantly about it being degrading.
The worst bit about it was one of the 'porn stars' boyfriends. Holy hell you could just see the life being sucked out of him as he had to try and rationalize staying with his girlfriend despite her 'making this choice'.
It was an interested behind the scenes and was obviously filmed to try and make the women in the films the victims. Gave some interesting insight overall.
I still don't understand how any self respecting guy could date those women.
like_a_ghost 10y ago
Hah, I just watched that too. While I cringed for the guy dating that one chick, I honestly thought he had a pretty good head on his shoulders (minus the staying with her part). A lot of the advice he dished out was spot on. That chick is lucky as fuck he did not split.
I also thought the dude living in Miami finding all these girls was a champ. I want that job.
slcjosh 10y ago
This film was a Sundance Film Festival entry as well. Just FYI.
winterrider 10y ago
Completely agree with OP. These women have a complete victim complex, as do many women in the sex industry. They make the decision to be an escort / do porn / strip or whatever, and then somehow, this is the fault of one or more men. It is just ludicrous.
ShitfacedBatman 10y ago
That sounds weird and awful. My main source of porn is the gifs in the anal subreddit. I'm doing my part to destroy the porn industry, for sure. Because seriously, a porn gif is like maybe 15 seconds of hot, which is all you really need to complete a 1-on-1 with yourself. All that "film-making" the industry does is overkill beyond overkill when you compare it to a 15 second anal gif.
My other source of porn is women's beach volleyball on YouTube. Now that's quality film making. Lots of wedgies, one team wins, the other team loses - and I still barely know the rules of the game.
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scarletspider3 10y ago
I found it interesting at around 11min when that girl was talking about "being free", and "doing shit", and just hanging out in penthouses, and riding in nice cars. If you think about it she could just as easily have been describing what it's like for a young girl to be messing around with a high status man instead of porn.
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CrustsRemoved 10y ago
The best part is the "boyfriend" of the one girl. For those who haven't/won't watch it, a sad sap beta buys a promise ring for his porn star girlfriend.
Hatorader 10y ago
I don't understand how these guys and/or porn companies make enough money to offset how much they pay the girls? I mean, porn is free. And how can I make money filming this crap?
Modern__Day__Pricus 10y ago
Seriously?
Fucking A.
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ShekelBanker 10y ago
Damn son, this is the darkest shade of blue I've seen in a long time.
Movonnow 10y ago
Only another attempt from the blue pill guy to secure the woman he believes is the ONE...if only he could fix her and provide enough for her so that things improve...but as long as he is doing his part of the feminine script she will do so too right?
asdfghjkltyu 10y ago
Throughout the whole video I got the increasing impression she was trying to imply the whole situation was outside of her control, like external factors encouraged her to get into it, external factors meant she had to do it. She the entire time was acting like "this isn't me" despite willfully making the decision to be involved in those activities.
One thing about her personality I found particularly strange was that when her boyfriend said things like that she's basically a hooker, she didn't get mad or try and hamster her way out of it. She seemed to flat out agree with him. Was that because she respected him or she didn't care what his opinion was? She couldn't respect him too much as she risked their relationship to pursue her career in porn.
oldbluebox 10y ago
It was neither. It wasn't that she respected him and def wasn't that she didn't care what his opinion was, it was that she had also already come to the same conclusion about her profession that he had. She accepted it and (at that time) was perfectly fine with being a hooker.
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laere 10y ago
I watched this last night, and holy fuck I just couldn't stop laughing.
Girls bitching about being in porn and acting like it isn't their fault.
And holy fuck the guy dating the one pizza face girl with the glasses. Man he looked like he was going to just break down.
asdfghjkltyu 10y ago
I got the impression he was increasingly torn internally. He didn't look like he was sad, he more struck me as a guy completely divided in his thought.
He was the most interesting character study in the whole film to me. The porn actresses were more or less what I though, decently attractive women who thought their life would be fun and parties if they got involved in porn but found the reality isn't at all glamorous.
The guy seemed to be decently normal, he was normal looking, seemed to have a normal personality. The inner beta was immerse though, you could see the complete lack of options flash in his eyes as he really wanted out but he 'loved her'.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
So she lied to him about being a porn star?
TheCarmineCapsule 10y ago
No, he knew from the beginning, and still stuck with her.
99centHeartattck 10y ago
yea i literally laughed out loud when he got her a promise ring. I bet he could just google her name and watch her get fucked while she is wearing the ring.
dongpal 10y ago
I would put my dick into the ring, people would finally believe the title "wife went wild with another man"
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TDCRedPill 10y ago
In their shoes, growing up an attractive girl, now pretend it's not a self defeated victim complex but a sharp as hell getting shit done mind with purpose. In their spot, I'd do the exact same thing.
I'd get the redonkulous amounts of money that comes to an even average stripper, much less what I'd make because serious bills are on the line. Porn even more so. Rich married men with potential for blackmail/baby money. Pulling a Megan Fox open relationship on a bluest of blue pills.
You feel the women were portrayed as victims or less savory. I posit some are the smartest, most intellectually capable folks on the planet I might like, because I'd do the exact same thing if I were smart and hot.
Shiningknight12 10y ago
Stripping sure, but porn vids end up on the internet and have long term consequences. 10 years from now that girl will no longer be pornworthy but her name will still show up on Google.
99centHeartattck 10y ago
If i was a woman, you couldn't give me enough money to have videos online of people face fucking me. these girls are not smart. They are the stupid of the stupid. sure you have 3 years of money freedom and fun. but life goes on, and life is long. and at any point, any one in the world can see you doing ass to mouth and slapped around.
Sirinon 10y ago
An ex male pornstar called ace used to do these q&a vids on YouTube about what porn was really like, he said pretty much that, all you have to do is one scene and it will stick with you for life. His vids are awesomely funny.
Fagbasher01 10y ago
Are you saying you would do gay porn then? Your approaching female activities with a male brain. If you where a women you would view it differently.
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TDCRedPill 10y ago
Im saying there is a price I'd do gay porn at. There is a much lower price that I'd dance for men for. If I thought I could inspire the sort of lucrative thirst an attractive woman can inspire in men, yes, I'd do it if I decided it was in my best interests. If women are as equally capable in decision making, dilemma avoidance, strategy, planning, and self interest, what most of us call 'agency', then why would it be to taboo to admit some do, and they shouldn't be reviled for what feels like understandable decisions?
cragteck 10y ago
These women making a lot of money is a common myth that's constantly repeated throughout reddit/internet. Just the lightest amount of research shows that the lucky ones barely pull in more than a decent career wage. Making $200 to even $500 an hour isn't a lot when you do nothing for the next couple of days. Sure you hear about the occasional $1000/hr escort, but those are far and few between. This goes for strippers as well. It appears to be a decent amount, but once you figure in any taxes they don't make what a cute girl filling in a minority quote would make in any STEM/business field.
I_luv_twinks 10y ago
Oh, it goes past that. If they did nothing for the next couple days, it might work out. But typically, the sex worker/stripper lifestyle includes shopping and partying and poor decisions. They think making 3k in a night is something that can happen in perpetuity, and once they do get run down and old, their past won't haunt them. It's why the life expectancy of a stripper is about 35.
DistantWinter 10y ago
I've had my run of soulless lizards before I began my last relationship. Flesh peddlers who believe you are an ignorant ATM. There is good reason 99% of all sex workers are broken, addicted, pathological and poor at 40.
Take a good long look at the 1% that were greatly successful. Look at them physically after years of abuse and plastic surgery. Look at their marriages or lack of and you'll see how broken even they are.
Back on subject of the post...
At the end of the movie the girl who was engaged spoke of how much money she made and where it all went in the three months she worked. After said expenses for her endeavors she had roughly $2000 in her bank account.
$2000 in savings for a lifetime of shame.
Bravo... Well played.
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iLLprincipLeS 10y ago
could you define the "pulling a megan fox" ? for whatever reason only when hearing the name Megan Fox i have a little attempt of boner, fucking strange! i think she was actually engineered by a man, a product of a man mind.
TDCRedPill 10y ago
She's cuckolded the 90210 beta dude to raise her kids, publicly announced she was in an open marriage, and is presumably riding an alpha cock carousel that'd make Zeus envious of all the action.
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KyfhoMyoba 10y ago
AFAIK, the agreement between Megan Fox and her husband, Brian Austin Greene, is that she is allowed to sex other women. She is not particularly attracted to men, her husband being the notable exception.
iLLprincipLeS 10y ago
oh then i guess she is admirable, as long as you are a horse in the cock carousel that she is riding, of course.
DaphneDK 10y ago
According to her Wiki article states that: she has only been sexually intimate with two men her entire life: "My childhood sweetheart and Brian. I can never have sex with someone that I don't love, ever. The idea makes me sick. I've never even come close to having a one-night stand."
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TDCRedPill 10y ago
The open marriage situation is easy to google. Well, half-open. Brian can't date, Megan can. And for some reason they don't have sex anymore either; that's easy to google too. Maybe Megan is low libido and just doesn't want sex. Or this healthy beautiful in the prime of her life with her choice of dying billionaires or college athletes is getting some from the best available.
DaphneDK 10y ago
Well, certainly odd. He too could have the pick of the litter. I quite liked him in Terminator, Sarah Connor Chronicles.
I've been told porn "stars" are some of the most boring people around. Perhaps it's the same way with Hollywood stars. They're just getting all around oversaturated with stimuli, and can't even be bothered to have sex anymore.
TheEssexian 10y ago
I read this review of the 'documentary'. I thought it summed it up pretty well. Shared it on r/movies... didn't think to share it here. http://www.literaryramblings.com/hot-girls-wanted-documentary-or-click-baiting
FrankoIsFreedom 10y ago
get out of my head.. its on my damn tv right now and its making me want to an hero
OmLaLa 10y ago
I watched "Hot Girls Wanted" after reading this post. Although the documentary does aim to victimize a group of women who have voluntarily chosen this CC-esque lifestyle for themselves (and are being well compensated for it with some making $200 an hour), I believe it also provides a good defantasization of the porn industry's idea of sex that so many of us have bought up to believe.
When I was young and new to sex, I busted on my lab partners face, hair and chest because after watching a ton of porn with no sex ed classes to back reference, I thought that was what normal sex was. It goes without saying that she wasn't too happy about cleaning the cum stains out of her navy polo during the next free period.
One particularly good scene in the documentary was when the Latino pornstar casually walked through Wal-Mart to buy clothes for her scene. There was no background music or commentary. No make-up or lights. And without all of the glitter and glam and lighting, she was so... lackluster.
This film should help new RPers struggling to abandon the false images of sex the digital age of porn provides to us, so long you view it through RP-tinted glasses. It brings light to the real actors and motivations behind modern day porn. All in all, it's worth a watch.
dr_warlock 10y ago
Dude, porn is how I learned to have sex for the first time in highschool. Fucking her like a caveman and treating her like a whore in the bedroom never fails. Never had an unsatisfied customer.
The whole fantastical image of fireworks and love with rose pedals during soft missionary sex in a high class hotel depicted in the media is demonstrably false.
Linrraba 10y ago
I learnt sex that way too but not exactly from porn. Emmanuelle, a softcore erotic novel turned into a saga of movies, was a my guide through the early days of my sexuality. No regrets either.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
No, that shit is fun too, but only once in a blue moon.
bonjoe 10y ago
It's amazing what women will rationalize doing to get people to pay attention to them.
C00l_Guy 10y ago
It is the stereotypical "faggot and whore" relationship.
TRPdating 10y ago
The absolute worsts part of this, the most cringe-worthy scenes, were these:
When one girl explains to her mother that she is not on birth control, and to avoid getting pregnant the guys 'do it on her and never in her'. The shock on the mother's face, the awkwardness, just... captured so well.
The boy who is desperately grinding gears in his brain as he comes to terms with the fact that, when you take the camera away, he's promised to a whore. "Yeah, I can see where you're coming from," she responds before they kiss and say they love each other. I wonder if he could taste the other men on her lips.
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chrisindub 10y ago
Having dated a few strippers when I lived in Vegas let me assure you that it is mostly pathologic narcissism that motivates someone to have a LTR with a stripper, hooker, or porn slut.
While not monogamous in any sense of the word, I was fairly serious with one for four years.
It involved threesomes with other girls frequently, heavy drug use, often open infidelity, and a lot of conflict.
I wouldn't recommend it. Parts of it were fun, just wasn't for me.
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scarletspider3 10y ago
I've been with a stripper once and she was fairly average looking, but she had such an inflated sense of her own SMV. She expected way more than what she was worth.
chrisindub 10y ago
Yeah, I think a lot of strippers get that sense from working in the club.
Here is my .02 on dating one.
You have to make sure you distinguish yourself from the betas if you are gonna chase strippers, hookers, or porn stars.
A strip club is a business designed to harvest money from beta type male personalities by supplying them with a temporary illusory alpha experience.
Girls surrounded by betas all day have learned that betas are their livelihood.
But, they are female, so they are usually unable to escape their attraction to the alpha males.
That is why pimps evolved, to supply this alpha dominance while tolerating their open relationships with betas while living as parasites off of them.
Every stripper I dated was because I defied the paradigm of chasing them and spending money on them. I did the exact opposite of what they were used to.
By supplying that emotionally detached, intolerant experience they were looking for, it put me in a different category to them than the strip club guys.
I never met any girls at a strip club, always outside the club.
My LTR, was physically a 10/10. I approached her at a casino pool on the strip in Vegas after she placed second in a bikini contest. She had a guy with her at the pool who I disrespected the shit out of right in front of her and she ended up leaving with me.
She had no respect for herself or for anyone else.
She fucked around with me for about four years and then met this super beta guy with millions in the strip club and she found her jackpot and left Vegas to go have kids with him in rural Wisconsin somewhere lol. She told me all about it, I gave her my blessing.
That girl really made me feel like a pimp, and I dont mean that in a good way. LMFAO.
That slut couldn't keep a plant alive and now she has a kid. Wow. Dumbest guy ever that would try and turn that ho into a housewife. She is probably fucking the nearest alpha anywhere near his house by now.
This is the problem with being a saveaho type beta. If you are fucking a hot girl who is slutty, 100% chance she is fucking other dudes.
If you are a beta type fucking a hot slutty girl she is 100% fucking other dudes who are not paying for anything or buying her shit, while she spends all your beta money. So at that point you just paid for a hooker.
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ShekelBanker 10y ago
While doing P4P I've only met one woman who was enough of a realist to admit that what she's doing is easy and the money is attractive. Out of thousands of women, both in and out of this fornicating for money business, she is the only one who admitted.
To make a comparison, I know another woman who works in a high-end mall where I live at a place selling the most expensive things: Montblanc pens, high-end cologne, watches in the thousands of dollars range, gets paid virtually unlimited money to eat anywhere in that said mall (a meal there can easily get to $100/person), earns a nice salary yet when I made a subtle attempt at confronting her (she posted a "complaint" on Facebook while she checked in at a not-so-cheap French restaurant) that why is she complaining when food is free (while I work in freelancing, doing a lot of manual labour in the blistering Middle East sun), she hits me with "you have no idea".
That is the moment when I realised 99.8% of women are divorced from reality, or simply do not realise that a lot of other people have to put up with significantly worse stuff.
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j-coordinate 10y ago
Does porn have a psychological effect on women? Even as a man,I think it would wreck me emotionally.sex is more intimate for a woman.does it not male them feel like shit knowing they were ploughed by so many men for money? Id feel used
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dongpal 10y ago
are you new to TRP? its known here that women lose the bounding effect after a while, thats why its way worse for a women to have a lots of sex with different men than vice versa.
SCROTAL-SACK 10y ago
Nice. I love these documentaries for the pure cringe-factor and to get a good laugh at these poor soulless sluts.. And there's beta bf rationalisations? Brilliant. Gonna enjoy this tonight.
juanlee337 10y ago
So much cringe watching the dude profess his love for her yet she is sucking some dudes dick on camera... He seems so miserable with her but yet they get engaged and pretend that everything will be ok...At the end , when they were all pretending that being 'happy' just got to me..
Also, the scene were they were back home at a frat party and he looks so uncomfortable when his frat buddies asking her about her job and wanting to find her scene..
skoobled 10y ago
Women: "OMG CHOOSING WHICH HARD BAG TO BUY WITH THE 5 GRAND I COULD FROM MY LATEST PORN SHOOT IS SOOOOOOOO HARD. MEN DONT KNOW HOW EASY THEY HAVE IT. I SPENT, LIKE, AN HOUR DOING MY HAIR THIS MORNING"
cmiovino 10y ago
This hits home.
Just 2 weeks ago, I went out with a girl who I got the number off of doing day game downtown. Probably one of the most.. ok, yeah, the most attractive girl I've been with so far. Lifting, new mindsets, thanks TRP for getting me there.
She has a Kik account, so I googled her account name. Minecraft, blah blah, some other normal sites, Pintrest. On look, a 'cam' site. Well shit. Poked around more, found multiple lingerie/panty pics, even one nude. Decided to do the date anyways, real bitch, but melted eventually. Has a sport bike, AK47, works in an OBGYN place, clerical. Great date, tons of banter and shit tests, first kiss on a bridge, spontaneously took her around town at night after drinks, then back to her place. Didn't go 'there' due to her clear internet past.
A day later, she's sending provocative 'bra pics' with a beer in hand. Shit went downhill after that. One, from not giving her what she wanted that night (knew that would be the case), but two because I decided to call her out on the cam site and pictures. She said she did it for the money, $4k a month. Said it was hard work, setting up everything, being ready, 'performing' for six hours straight. Claims she doesn't do it anymore, but logs into her cam site account every day. Also really got in my face for bringing it up. Says none of her other boyfriends even knew about it.
We're still bitching back and forth here and there. I know she's still remotely interested, but as much as I'm down for the exploration aspect, I can't bring myself to date or go out... or even plate a girl like her. We talked about it... aka, more like her yelling about it. Says it shouldn't matter and she's done with it (lie) or only does it when she needs the money (so, always?). Also justifies it.
Side note, her personality is really fucked up. Really combative - much more than just typical bitchiness. Also, requires 'wake up' texts and constant attention, which I haven't and won't give her.
ThrowingMyslfOutther 10y ago
Cut all ties, 100%
She's the type that will produce many regrets for you otherwise.
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KyfhoMyoba 10y ago
You might want to do some research on Cluster B Personality Disorders.
AlphamaxCouture 10y ago
Sounds like the kind of girl who can cause problems down the line. The best advice would be for you to cut contact, but I like putting my dick in crazy so I'd plate her.
Semper_I 10y ago
Dated one myself and right out the gate First selfie was uber sexual, I knew it right then, trouble.
I_luv_twinks 10y ago
Maybe I'm an outlier, but I have plated girls like this (crazy, but not cam whores) without a problem.
I mean, wtf. You said she's the hottest girl you've been with, so the attraction isn't the problem. You have no problem not feeding her attention all the time, which consequently drives her crazier for you. If you can maintain that frame, this is plate city. Just wear a rubber.
Rathadin 10y ago
Are you fuckin' serious bro? This bitch is red flags all over the place...
String this whore along for six months and she'll shoot up dude's car with that AK47.
Run the fuck away while you can... pussy this crazy only ends in tragedy for someone.
Robdogx9001 10y ago
Being a women in porn ruins your life. They have a career of about 2 years. After that, the woman is unemployable. They usually end up on a woe is me tour pushing a book and then wind up in escorting or drugs.
Linrraba 10y ago
It's really on them,though. Madelyn Marie did porn until she could pay all her way through college and build her own doctor's office. On the other hand, Gauge payed her way through nursing school with porn yet couldn't work anywhere because of it. Raylene became a big time real state agent until she lost everything with the house bubble crash back in 2008. Gauge and Raylene had to get back into porn like many others. Madelyn Marie didn't. It all comes down to financial manegement.
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bonjoe 10y ago
And they get married and come to Jesus.
KyfhoMyoba 10y ago
See: Shelly Lubben and Chrissy Moran.
Sirinon 10y ago
Jessie rogers is the craziest example recently.
zuk1 10y ago
TBH most porn stars now just do it to promote themselves as an escort. Not that much money in porn.
But yeh you better hope you make enough money out of it in the 10 years you're active to make it worthwhile because like you say it's obviously damaging to your employability.
TheRedPilsner 10y ago
Case in point: Lisa Ann.
She was a pretty popular star. But rumor has it that she made most of her money has a high-class escort for hip-hop stars and NBA players.
Rathadin 10y ago
Hah, that's awesome... I had no idea.
Proxy Paige is doing the same thing apparently... fucking for like $2 grand a night. I have a rich friend who works in Hollywood who has used her before, because she's a nasty hoe that'll just about literally do anything.
TheRedPilsner 10y ago
In terms of porn stars who escort, $2000 a night is actually pretty reasonable. Some of the more famous girls charge $2000 - $5000 per hour, and if you're not located in their immediate area you also have to pay their travel expenses.
Of course, some guys can easily afford things like that. There are arab millionaires who fly porn stars and instagram models out to Dubai so they can literally shit on them. There was a thread here on TRP about it a couple of months back; a web site called "Tag the Sponsor" exposes girls who are willing to do that.
Rathadin 10y ago
Hah, awesome... I'm learning so much tonight...
asdfghjkltyu 10y ago
The benefit/cost certainly doesn't seem in its favor. Very few make it and they make minimal money long term. The evidence of their lifestyle is out there forever too, so it would be near impossible to sweep it under a rug.
Shiningknight12 10y ago
Not sure about this. Most of them don't use their real names. There is so much porn out there its unlikely someone will stumble across a video of you from 5 years ago.
Rathadin 10y ago
Bro, a good Reverse Image Search and a small amount of detective work is all it takes.
Plus there's sites like http://www.findhername.com/ Find Her Name that try to crowd-source discovering hoes.
Robdogx9001 10y ago
All it takes is one. Hell, I've known more than one person on fb who got a message from a friend, that they haven't spoken to in several years, message them a link that featured one of their former class mates in a porn.
FinickyFizz 10y ago
There are a few red pillers who have dated porn stars. Would love for one of them to respond to this.
waitfor_ittt 10y ago
Masturbated to many different pornstars AMA
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Semper_I 10y ago
Dated a former Star here in LA, she only worked for a year or two like a decade ago. Sex, although intense, was a charade and she reverted to her "character" and was so fucking loud and annoying I had to smother her, which I don't mind, but it was almost laughable and embarrassing when neighbors called.
I found out eventually from an old love she stalked that she would copy her man's hobbies to mold herself in the UNICORN for him which was flattering at first, but like her O face-fake. She got bolt ons for one dude (some rocker) then BIGGER BOLT ONs for another dude. Became a bad ass motorcycle rider for one guy then parked it after they broke up. She stalked my pinterest and social media to mold her idea of what I wanted as wifey and even went as far as to add and message girls. I want to live in a cabin and be a farmer and she was on board after a week. Suspect.
She can be sweet and normal, is pro dog groomer now doing well, but she NEEDS babies by 40 and won't let several fiance's dumping her stop that.
I don't know if Porn fucked her up, but it's a huge part of her she can't deny and a reason she can never go home since they found out. I felt like I could have molded her to that unicorn, but she would seek another personality to absorb eventually and also-fuck having kids and dealing with the shit tests. I was eventually over wrangling her hamster so I let her go after a month or so. I had a family wedding back home I was going to bring her to, but only to tease my dad.
Had sex don't care. We had fun breaking furniture and fucking on the Harley along Mullholland, but I can only handle so many red flags at once.
blandboringusername 10y ago
Yeah, probably not the best mother for your children. Especially since she has such a short attention span from the life she's lived, she would probably run off with the kids and raise them without their father.
xxzulu24xx 10y ago
I highly doubt porn did any of that to her. She probably went into porn because someone forgot to screw her head on, nevermind making it straight.
awoods5000 10y ago
yeah it all seems like a symptom of her real problems rather than the reason for them.
Semper_I 10y ago
Me too, porn was yet another hobby she did to please a man, but it for sure doesn't repair all them lost hugs.
Really when she got bigger tits for another guy later out of porn, that for me is crazytown.
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plentyoffishes 10y ago
True and interesting. It's like men in pro football. Average career is 3 years for NFL players. Most of them got the league minimum, and have to quit due to injury. Unless they had a backup plan, many of these guys are fucked for years trying to figure shit out.
protoss--OP 10y ago
there is that whole 'free college' thing going for them though...
and even for women doing porn, what were most of them really going to do otherwise... they probably end up better off with porn
Fagbasher01 10y ago
don't know about that one. being a 35 year old drugged out escort doesn't sound to appealing to me. im not a woman though so maybe they like that shit.
BowsNToes21 10y ago
What's free college worth when you're unable to get an actual major because you're too busy practicing and have to pick a major with zero job marketability?
College players get a raw deal. Everyone is making cash off them and they get shafted.
John Oliver actually covered it very well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pX8BXH3SJn0
TheRedPilsner 10y ago
My favorite criticism of the NCAA refusing to pay athletes while making millions of dollars off of them is the South Park episode called "Crack Baby Football League."
nillotampoco 10y ago
A college degree with no marketability still gets you miles ahead of person with no college degree.
NeverPull0ut 10y ago
Especially a person with no college degree and videos of them fucking on the internet... Agree with college athletes getting a raw deal but a dude making a few hundred grand in the NFL with several college credits under his belt is WAY better off than someone that did porn.
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BowsNToes21 10y ago
Doesn't change the fact you spent an enormous amount of time obtaining a useless piece of paper. They would have been better off getting a welding or electrician certification. Ton of blue collar jobs which pay extremely well.
Though you could argue all the pussy they got was worth it.
Just depends what you value, at 25 there is some tail I would easily have given up to be more financially secure.
protoss--OP 10y ago
this is pretty dumb logic, if you want to get your degree plenty of players who practiced enough to get to the nfl have left with useful 4 year degrees, many from top tier schools
just instead of partying, you have to study.
IllimitableMan 10y ago
The general gist of understanding women:
Like to be victims as it means they don't have to take responsibility.
Without responsibility there is no blame, and without blame there is little or no punishment, making reprehensible/undesirable behaviour optional/attractive.
In this perverse sense, having people believe you're a victim without actually being one grants incredible freedom (which is a form of power.) You can get away with things others would be reprimanded for.
Being a victim gets you attention, which makes you feel important. Great if you are a narcissist (most women are.) Even negative attention is better than no attention for a narcissist.
radicalcontemporary feminism.Now what you have to understand about all this is that it's all part of female nature, most of them don't go out of their way to calculate this. It's just what they are. Women are nature's Machiavellians, most have very little awareness. The "it's not my fault", the advocacy, the appeal for sympathy.. it's all part of female nature, female games. Think logically for a second. "Why would they evolve to act in this way?" well because natural selection must have selected for women who could be deceitful in tribal times. Women who took blame got killed/were left to starve etc.
This is all female instinct, it's part of the game they play. The women who don't do this (most aren't self-aware enough to accurately make that judgement for themselves) have this instinct subdued, they probably had a strong father/brother household and/or live rurally/culturally away from the debauchery of urban civilization. As we all know, in the west male dominated households with females cohabiting is becoming increasingly rare.
The powers that be want feminised men and masculinised women. The thing you need to know about a masculinised woman is that the balls she has grow out of the soil of female nature. Just because she becomes aggressive and controlling, doesn't mean she starts taking on male concepts like honour and responsibility. Masculine women are so in a quintessentially female (but not feminine) way.
It may take some nuance of mind to understand what I'm getting at there, so re-read if necessary.
johnnight 10y ago
What is needed then is punishment for allowing oneself to be a victim.
Jaykaykaykay 10y ago
Also being a victim gives you the moral right to strike back at whatever group is "oppressing" you.
IllimitableMan 10y ago
Oh yeah, it's always used as a justification for launching an attack.
EG: "Chad raped me with his WMD, let's invade Chad!"
kalstate 10y ago
Very well written, sensible arguments. Thanks.
fakeAk 10y ago
Surely men were/are treated the same way? They didn't go unpunished just because they were male. So why didn't men develop such nature as well?
Cyralea 10y ago
Because men have power through strength and spatial reasoning. A tribal man had value if he was able to assist with procuring food and shelter.
You're not wrong though, men who were obvious liabilities would have been left to starve as well. This is why we're biologically programmed to be loyal and protective, as well as favour hierarchy. The ones lacking these qualities simply didn't get to procreate.
katabn 10y ago
Loyal men are able to hunt as a team and win as a team and have more succes to reproduce themselves.
Bruteinsuit 10y ago
Men also have it in some amount but less than women.loyalty,discipline and honour subdues those tendencies. But men didnt develop victim mentality because its highly discouraged and it is antithesis of tingles.Machiavellism can be seen in alphas (eg politicians) because they aren't controlled by external code of operation.
KyfhoMyoba 10y ago
It arises out of the deception necessary to actualize their pluralistic mating strategy: Alphas for fucking, betas for provisioning, and the betas have to be deceived in order to accomplish this.
whatgold 10y ago
It all makes perfect sense now.
I was banned from the hypothyroidism (a disease which mostly afflicts women) subreddit for trying to spread the simple cure there.
Needless to say, they don't want the cure, they love being victims.
machimus 10y ago
Unfortunately lots of subs exist only for the victim circlejerk. Whenever I try to help the raisedbynarcissists folks by suggesting they not continue to identify as a victim, they smash me for it. They would rather continue playing their codependency game on their sub. It's sad.
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tuxedoburrito 10y ago
And I'm unsubbing from there right now
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machimus 10y ago
It's true. Here though, I believe the difference is we discourage that and advise those men to snap out of it and stand on their own two legs. Making excuses is not among our values, and I would call guys out on it as I expect to be called out when I am full of it.
Abadoobie 10y ago
How do you differentiate a victim from a fake victim?
machimus 10y ago
They're all real victims. The point is, being a victim was part of the narcissist cycle, and they continue that roleplay on the sub. Same way Alcoholics Anonymous is still playing the Alcoholic game, just in a less destructive way. The only way to break out of the cycle is to refuse to play the victim, and I've found that they'd rather keep playing victim. It's super creepy, because it implies they're perfectly comfortable with being an emotional punching bag as a way of life. That's why you never, EVER, make one of these girls your LTR.
200mgtestc 10y ago
Someone whose identity is wrapped up in them being a "victim", regardless of whether they're actually victims or not.
Neeraj84 10y ago
I am talking to this girl who cuts herself and tells about it to everyone. She was in an abusive relationship which started with sexual abuse for 4 years.
She has friends and family and she is very pretty. But she says "She was scared to be alone" hence she didn't leave the relationship.
I don't understand that. A girl like her would have so many orbiters. Heck even I played her orbiter in the past few weeks after feeling sad for her. And I get treated like shit in return.
They don't care for those who treat them nice and care for them and keep going back to those who abuse them.
MyRedAccount 10y ago
It is fucking miserable being raised by a narcissist, but you know what? I got over it within about 6 months of getting out of that awful cage. I'm a very strong, highly intelligent, humble, man though, and I realize not even every man could recover like that. You're asking it of women too.
When my sister moved back in with him I told her, "Welcome to hell." She knows I'm right about him now. I also made her ex-husband as an asshole first time I met him and told her so because he was rude when I was under heavier camo spying. He figured it out to some extent though and was more polite after, and boy does he have a gypsies silver tongue. I think I stole part of mine from him actually. He actually told me his real mother was a killer soon after he saw me make some random confess their homosexuality for the first time in an experiment. I don't mind too much that my nephew will be a soldier, but I'm making sure he learns to follow the rules now.
rp_valiant 10y ago
it sounds like you're becoming something of a narcissist yourself, just from the way you present yourself in this comment. You might want to keep the ego in check lest you repeat the cycle.
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machimus 10y ago
Uh...what? Congrats on getting out, although it doesn't sound like you're over it.
MyRedAccount 10y ago
What are you even trying to do with this comment? Do you want me to go sulk about my dad, because I'm not going to. Am I supposed to feel remorse that I let my sister make her own decisions? She made it very clear when we were young that she didn't want me to be the boss of her so that's not even my fault. Was I supposed to be born fluent in womanese? Okay now you're making me laugh. Thank you for that train of thought. The idea of someone just being born understanding women or men perfectly is hilarious.
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piercing_rain 10y ago
What was your suggested cure? Just curious
whatgold 10y ago
High carb, low fat, whole foods, plant-based diet. And fasting.
The mechanisms behind why this is the cure are extremely complex, though I would love to cover them if anyone is interested.
CrustsRemoved 10y ago
You mind citing some sources?
whatgold 10y ago
I can if you can refine the question a bit, and tell me what you're looking for.
sexypriest 10y ago
Cover the mechanisms plz. I have some background in physiology but I have never heard of hypothyroid management with food.
whatgold 10y ago
So, I'll be vague at first, the mechanisms are quite complex. Feel free to ask questions based on what I write if you would like to go further.
Hypothyroidism has nothing to do with the thyroid in the majority of cases. It is merely an unlucky bystander injured by inappropriate immune system response. The key to curing Hypothyroidism (Hashimoto's) is to correct the immune system.
Most of the human immune system is governed by bacteria in the intestines. The complexity of these bacteria are beyond what we can comprehend via the rules of scientism in 2015. There are 10x more bacterial cells, and 100x more bacterial genes within the human body than human cells and genes respectively. We are a bacterial species living within a human shell.
Autoimmune disease is a multi-faceted disease with multiple simultaneous causes. Meat/dairy/oils disrupt the bacterial ecosystem within the intestines, skewing them towards unhealthy ratios with pathogens being more predominant. These pathogens, over time, can break down the intestinal barrier if they are not kept in check.
Once the intestinal barrier is compromised, animal products can enter the bloodstream. Over time the immune system becomes confused, mistaking chopped up animals for human organs.
Fasting helps to restore the intestinal barrier, restore proper bacterial ratios, and reset the immune system.
A high carb, low fat, whole foods, plant-based diet directly feeds healthy intestinal bacteria which generate metabolic byproducts which act as natural antibiotics which kill pathogens whose absence allows the body to repair intestinal barrier.
Let me know if you'd like to tunnel into any of these points specifically, the details go pretty deep.
There's of course the genetic aspect, HLA-B27 for example, but we have no control of this so I pay it no mind since it's an immovable variable. Genetics are only one domino of the whole set that must fall for disease to occur.
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Bruteinsuit 10y ago
Tl:DR; When left uncontrolled, women become feral female animal with all undesirable characteristics amplified(like human females before agriculture). they'll submit only to very masculine men (thugs,psychopaths etc). So castrated men(AFC) of our generation arent arousing them.
IllimitableMan 10y ago
Right. Women have to be controlled. They are an inherently destructive force to civilization. Unbinding female sexuality via feminism destroys the family unit, which in turn destroys civilization. Feminism is an ideological civilization destroyer.
schnooglybear 10y ago
I'm new to this subreddit. I'm just trying to understand as I navigate my way through this. Please don't take offense when I ask this, but are you being serious? Tone is hard to read over text and I'm just trying to better understand this sub.
darksoulflame 10y ago
No one needs to be controlled. Just promote good decision making for yourself and don't dwell on how society operates.
mrp3anut 10y ago
except without a comtrolled society the scope of your decision making is which cave you are going to live in or which warlord you have to try to not get killed by today.
darksoulflame 10y ago
True, that's why you associate yourself with people that are not topic and are willing to grow with you. Get rid of toxicity in this current society and be with people that you can grow with
mrp3anut 10y ago
And then we will all live in peace and harmony and dance around campfires as we sing kumbaya. Up until the warlike tribe down the road decides they want your campfire and slaughter you because you are to busy "growing" to be bothered with war.
darksoulflame 10y ago
That's not what I'm saying. There will never be full peace and harmony out there but if you want to survive, you better make friends that will make you stronger, physically and mentally. I don't think we're in the same page here
mrp3anut 10y ago
Do you have friends that know how to build fighter jets, nukes, tanks or any other modern war machine? If you do then do you have enough friends to not only build the infrastructure to produce and maintain them while also fielding a military large enough to fend off a nation like Russia? How about roads, mining operations, power plants, the schools that teach these trades or any other?
If not then anything you and your friends have that another society wants will be taken from you. There is no way to have a functioning society without agreed upon rules that are enforced by some form of police.
Bruteinsuit 10y ago
So do men, When left uncontrolled men are also equally capable of destroying civilization. Alphas(or government in our case) must always have control over betas to build/sustain a civilization. Our governments are doing a very very good job of it.
For men, violence must be controlled.
For women, Sexuality needs to be controlled.
Cyralea 10y ago
Civilization was borne off the backs of men. It's the betas of the world that provide the productivity needed for a healthy society, and they only do so to maximize their sexual imperative.
You're not wrong about controlling male violence. That's part and parcel of channelling beta productivity though. When men have exclusive sex as the carrot on the stick, they'll refrain from being violent and instead channel productivity. It's only when men have no avenues for sex (like Marriage 1.0) that they instead turn violent.
skoobled 10y ago
Very nicely distilled. I love the way that men are supposed to be strong because we are physically strong when pretty much 100% of avenues whereby a man could get ahead and solve his problems through violence are explicitly prohibited by society. It makes that argument moot
IllimitableMan 10y ago
The government will arrest a violent man, and society will shame him. The government won't arrest a woman for being a whore, nor will society shame her. Not like it used to. The worst part of male nature is being managed, the worst part of female isn't.
Bruteinsuit 10y ago
Yeah it is the unfortunate truth now. Arresting a women for being whore is not effective but shaming her is. That's why for thousands of years women were shamed for being a whore. The shaming was usually done by older women (to avoid pushing their older pussies out of market,not to save civilization). But currently older women have no incentive to do that(our big brother government rip the money out of us and feed them).
RedPillFusion 10y ago
Arresting and confining a woman isn't as harsh to her as arresting and confining a man. Men pursue freedom with more to lose, because we have more to gain. We were given a larger canvas than women. Their general gender-specific needs can be fulfilled even in confinement - sometimes especially in confinement. Developing interdependent relationships is often the fruit of collective hardship.
CheezStik 10y ago
For what purpose would it make sense to arrest a woman for being a whore? As if our justice system wasn't bloated and inefficient enough, what do you think this would accomplish?
Your whole stance seems to be one in which you have ironically made yourself the victim (eg: women have it so easy while men have no freedom and have to be controlled) when your assertion is that this is what women do. Is it possible that perhaps you are the one with very little self-awareness?
Bruteinsuit 10y ago
Nah, He is just stating the reality. He is not playing victim. He says it is not good for the long term health of civilization. From reading the his posts, I think he is not the type of guy to play victim.
DarkyDarkskin 10y ago
This is what women do when no limitations are put on them and no repurcussions follow. The last 50 years or so is evidence if this.
MagnanimousGenius 10y ago
The Old Testament: An adulterer will be put to death along with the adulteress.
No exceptions.
Christianity is what made us strong, but we've all forgone it. And most "Christians" nowadays cherry pick feel good pseudo-biblical teachings and are doormats.
Now priests advocate for homosexual marriage.
Rathadin 10y ago
Sorry bub, but /u/CheezStik is dead on. Religion has fucked up this planet... all religions, no exception.
What made us strong was our social evolution throughout time. What made us even stronger was the concept of monogamy. One man. One woman. One family. All working together to improve the tribe. Then the village. Then the town. Then the city-state. And lastly, the nation.
Do me a favor though, don't try the old, "Religion blah blah monogamy blah blah" thing. We were monogamous long before we were religious, at least in terms of organized belief systems.
MagnanimousGenius 10y ago
Do me a favour and don't try the old 'you're reasoning is inferior blah blah blah I'm too effeminate to have the patience to consider someone else point of view without using emotional rebuttals
The Old Testament states quite clearly, that in the case of adultery, the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.
Religion may be 'stupid' to you and may have 'fucked up this planet,' but think objectively what adherence to a religion did for the masses. When every family on the street attends the same Church each Sunday, and is held to the same standards, there is far less prevalence of debauchery, hedonism etc. when a culture of Patriarchy is re-enforced.
You can't look upon the Sistine Chapel, and say that religion brings out the worst in humanity. Christianity, and it's defence by our forebears against others is what allowed Europe to be homogenous for so long, and develop such advanced, strong societies that literally conquered the entire world.
Hedonism and degeneracy was our doing - leftism our undoing. Sorry bub but I'll have my opinion and you have yours
P.S. as a bonus: Christianity re-enforced a culture of Patriarchal monogamy
Rathadin 10y ago
Religion is stupid period. Believing in shit you can't objectively prove, or even offer a somewhat credible hypothesis for, is stupid. There's no way around that one. You are free to believe this ridiculous nonsense if you want, that's fine... this is America, and I'll defend to my death your right to believe that dumb shit... but make no mistake, its dumb shit.
All this is possible without a religion. You need only shared values... Early Roman Republic comes to mind.
Art can be inspired from anything. Religion certainly isn't the arbiter of artistic endeavor.
This came from the Romans & the Greeks, not the Christians. Romans had spread all across Europe back when Christianity was still a crazy death cult meeting in the back alleys, sewers, and underground areas of Rome.
Leftism isn't our undoing. Its our perversion of true liberalism that's our undoing. The pathetic liberals we have today are under the belief that you have to tolerate everything, if you tolerate anything. That's an idiotic idea, and a perversion of classical liberalism, which today is called Libertarianism by most folks.
Yeah except I'm not interested in opinions, I'm interested in facts. I'm not picking on just Christianity... its just as stupid as Islam, Hinduism, and the other 500 religions humans created in the past 6000 - 10000 years to make themselves feel important. It just so happens that people latched onto it. And it makes sense why, its the ultimate liberal ideology. Anyone can be a Christian. That was it major selling point to Romans. Anyone's allowed in... its a big ole club... and everyone's invited.
That's fine I guess, but I don't need a bunch of ridiculous and contradictory bullshit written by humans who had barely any grasp of science in order to understand the world around me today... science is doing a fine job of that by itself. Fortunately, each year that goes by keeps chipping away at religion... all religions. I figure another 500 - 1000 years, we might finally rid ourselves of that nonsense.
I also hate how TRP is totally enamored with religion because it happens to be a convenient ally... or was. Mainstream Christianity has turned away from TRP-like ideology that was prevalent in Christianity only 50 years ago. Islam is too fucking insane for a thinking man to consider, and I love beef too much to be a Hindu... so I'll happily be an atheist / agnostic / non-believer, whatever you want to call me.
TRP doesn't need religion, and religion doesn't need it. Evolution explains everything about TRP and our philosophies.
DarkyDarkskin 10y ago
Amen. We have had the solutions to our problems all along. Most would see it as "unkind" though. I personally don't give a shit anymore. I'm sick of living in a filthy, degenerate society where marriage is equivalent to voluntary cuckoldry. Kill 'em both. It worked before and it will work again.
CheezStik 10y ago
Christianity is what has set humanity back about a thousand years. It is not what has made us strong. It is a societal hindrance.
MagnanimousGenius 10y ago
Nonsense, but please share anything to back up your claims
DarkyDarkskin 10y ago
I really hope this isn't a serious comment. Christian civilization advanced the world to where it is today (in a positive sense).
CheezStik 10y ago
In what sense? Causing the Dark Ages, the Crusades, or continuing to criticize scientific theory and discovery? Christmas is a fun holiday, I'll concede that.
Code_Bordeauxx 10y ago
CheezStik exaggerates and I can't say I agree with him much, but you are off as well. Religion is great for maintaining a strong moral society; it's good for maintaining order, having people walk in line. But on the other hand religion is an absolute plague for technological advancement and science. Our understanding of biology and genetics lead to astonishingly new medical interventions, to give just one example. Paternity testing comes to mind. If you think that's because of Christianity you couldn't be more wrong. It's not black and white.
rife_omeqa 10y ago
There was a time where the Christian Church reigned supreme. It was called The Dark Ages.
DarkyDarkskin 10y ago
I see you buy into the mainstream media historical lies. Most likely from the history channel or bbc. The so called "dark ages" was a period after the fall of Rome up until around the time of the Renaissance. However, this time period wasn't even that "dark". Whatever ignorance existed in this era was not derived from Christianity.
plentyoffishes 10y ago
Haha are you kidding? Governments are all about violence. Governments cause violence and death and rarely prevent it.
IllimitableMan 10y ago
Governments have a monopoly on force. It is legal for them to use force, it is not legal for you to use force. Well at least in the US you can stand your ground on your property. In the UK you cannot even hit a guy for robbing your home. You have to let him steal your shit or you risk being arrested for battery/assault.
Criminals/gangs/mafia often see government/police/politicians as being a more successful version of themselves.
plentyoffishes 10y ago
Exactly. It's mind boggling as to how backwards it is. Perfect example is a cop who can drive 95 mph to chase down a guy who's "breaking the law" driving 75.
When you give one group of people in society the monopoly on force, things tend to go a bit haywire as they are now.
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Ochreata 10y ago
And the irony of this is that it is they who wrote the laws making it legal, on the pretext that we gave them the right, even though none of us individually actually has that right to give away.
redpillmason 10y ago
Look at the African governments for failures of controlling violence. Picture moving your family to Somalia.
plentyoffishes 10y ago
Ridiculous comparison. We're not and have never been a tribal society like Somalia. And, Somalia has done MUCH better when it hasn't had a government than when the UN comes in and forms a quasi-government. If you want to talk facts I can do that, but emotional pleas about Somalia compared to the US are meaningless.
Overkillengine 10y ago
Bingo. People that idolize anarchy often fail to realize that it eventually boils down into a Lord of the Flies situation without a somewhat centralized monopoly of the use of force. To hold a pretense otherwise is to be as stupidly naive as the kumbaya socialists.
Everyone ends up constantly having to be on guard to the point of vast productivity being lost and overall quality of life and lifespan being lowered.
Functioning and successful societies both limit the ability of individuals to act malevolently towards each other while also rewarding productivity. Failing to do either hastens collapse.
plentyoffishes 10y ago
Nobody is idolizing anything.
Anarchy simply means "no ruler"- not chaos. Red pill does not mean needing to have some "elected" bureaucrat point your life in the direction they want it to go.
Dude, cops don't stop crimes, almost never happens. People are far more on guard when cops are present than when they are not. Cops don't protect people, they simply shake them down.
Government encourages the very things you are afraid of.
LukesLikeIt 10y ago
The biggest gang will always be in charge. Police and government are essentially our gang. The problem is we though the government was on "our side" but they have become so big as to be entities themselves.
Ochreata 10y ago
Can you any examples of a truly anarchistic state that went into a Lord of Flies situation? Somalia was a statist country, it is now a failed state. What's left is a situation where there are people constantly agitating for a return to a violent control system (government) and a pretty much total lack of adherence to the axiom of non-aggression. They are not anarchists so much as statists in a state of anarchy.
mrp3anut 10y ago
Can you provide any example of a society in all the history of man kind that truly lived under this so called axiom of non-aggression? Ill give you a hint, none have ever existed and everyone that has tried has been destroyed by people who didnt give a shit about their "peace and love" nonsense.
Ochreata 10y ago
Some of the Indian nations would have come closest, but as you correctly point out they were destroyed by the war mongers that run the land today.
You are obviously confused. Pacifism is the ideology of peace and love, not Anarchy. The axiom of non-aggression, aggression defined as an action of offense. So it means that one does not have the right to attack others but you do have the right to use whatever force necessary to defend yourself against aggression.
The female imperative has pretty much taken over and TRP is an anarchistic response to the control system, unlike MRA which works within the system. All you need to do is expand your understanding to the whole of the control system and you will see that you are already a few steps down the path to anarchism thanks to TRP.
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KyfhoMyoba 10y ago
Iceland had a functioning anarchy for several hundred years. Many tribes of Native Americans, too. Somalia did for all of its history until the Siad Barre regime was installed the the (?) Italians, and is now reverting back , especially in the north.
Polycentric law has been operational and effective at dispute resolution at many times and in many places.
plentyoffishes 10y ago
You're exactly right. People around here call themselves "red pill" but refuse to swallow the fact that their lives are being directed by a bunch of selfish politicians. Nothing red pill about that.
mrp3anut 10y ago
Source or get hte fuck out, i would also liek to mention that having a "functioning" anarchy is not the same as having a successful civilization that exists in a state of anarchy. Native american tribes warred with each other constantly but im sure you are talking about some secluded tribe that a historian claims lived under the system you like yet they left no written history or hard evidence to support that claim.
Anyone here that claims any form of "non aggression principle" as a basis for governance is either a fool or a future warlord.
TheDarkFrontier 10y ago
Iceland during that time had less than 100,000 people, all of whom were of the same ethnic background, culture, and religion, so they were able to easily resolve simple disputes between individuals/families/villages using age-old traditions(dueling, asking the local priest what the Bible says). Also, due to the island's isolation, they simply didn't need much of an overarching unifying body to protect their way of life from the outside.
Native American tribes were pretty much all hierarchical. Outside of the major Mesoamerican and South American civilizations, the native tribes typically settled disputes with each other with blood, gifts, or marriage. Similar to Iceland though, the very low population density throughout North America(outside of Mexico) made it so that constant conflict wasn't necessary for survival.
Polycentric law is only valid when there isn't a power imbalance or the two or more parties feel that negotiation will result in the most beneficial result. If there's a power imbalance, then the more powerful party will logically choose to assert their claim whether the other party likes it or not. A mild example of this is when a heavily indebted law grad is forced to work 20 hours of overtime each week because his boss, in an indirect alliance with the grad's creditors, knows that the grad has to work those hours to pay the debt or face substantial consequences. The grad can technically quit or stop paying his creditors, but both come with steep consequences. The state can only exist by consent of the people, either active or passive. If the majority of people believed they'd be better off without the "monopoly of physical force" that is the state, we'd all be anarchists by now. The fact of the matter is that most individuals would be far weaker without the government, and would fall prey to some other, less benevolent government(warlords, corporations, etc).
KyfhoMyoba 10y ago
Only if the costs of enforcing are less than not.
TANSTAFL
mrp3anut 10y ago
Incorrect. Governments do not "cause" violence. Violence is part of the human condition as much as eating, shitting and death. Governments control violence, which in itself is a neutral position. If a government controls violence in such a way that allows society to thrive then it is good, if it uses this violence to enrich the governmental overlords at the expense of the society then it is bad. What society as a whole has to decide is how to best control the government so that we get as much of the benefits and minimize the corruption.
plentyoffishes 10y ago
Governments only exist because of violence. Without the guns, government has no power over you and I. Government causes violence all the time. It looks for wars to start or get involved with. If not for governments, who would fight in wars? Do you think people would be getting on planes to go fight random strangers in Iraq if not for government? There is one way they cause violence.
They are also built on threats of violence. Don't pay your taxes, guess what? You get hauled off to jail by force. Get caught with a plant that the government doesn't approve of, same thing. All built on violent threats.
Government always protects itself. That's it. They are not out to protect us. After all, who rules over the government? Democracy was a nice idea at the time, but it clearly doesn't work. Government operates in a state of anarchy but the people are forced around at gunpoint- the opposite of freedom.
mrp3anut 10y ago
So you are saying governments require guns to create violence, and that without central government the world would be peaceful and happy devoid of bloodshed and crime?
How did Rome exist? Who sacked Rome, why did they do it, and how did they accomplish this without guns?
If you think life would be better without government then move to Africa and get you a taste.
plentyoffishes 10y ago
Nope.
No idea. Why don't you tell me.
We've gone over this. Africa is filled with countries run by tin pot dictators who are supported by countries like the US. This is even further from anarchy than the US or Europe.
mrp3anut 10y ago
Do you have a single example of any nation that has ever existed under your beliefs?
bookhockey24 10y ago
Exactly. I don't know of a single alpha in politics.
Bruteinsuit 10y ago
Silvio Berlusconi, Narendra Modi.
hammerfag 10y ago
Vladimir Putin is about as alpha as it gets.
bookhockey24 10y ago
Touché. One of the most alpha of men in modern history.
RedPillFusion 10y ago
From all accounts, Teddy Roosevelt, Abe Lincoln, Ronald Reagan, Andrew Jackson, and George Mason were alphas. Obviously that comes the large caveat of not observing them first-hand. This conclusion comes primarily through available anecdotes in bearing, decision-making, and apparent purpose.
KyfhoMyoba 10y ago
Obviously you've never read any biographical material about Lincoln. His crazy wife used to beat him in public and he took it like the beta bitch he was. He was a corporate lawyer for railroads and was the quintessence of crony "capitalism."
Reagan wasn't that great either. No, and I mean zero relationship with his kids, Ron, Jr. didn't even let him know he was getting married, Nancy was renowned in Hollywood for her oral skills and almost certainly used them on Sinatra when he visited the White House, Reagan gushed over Nancy and wrote her insane cringe-worthy love letters. The guy was so-o-o-o-o-o whipped.
Rathadin 10y ago
Got a source for the shit about Nancy and Ron? I totally had no idea about this and I'd love to read more on it.
RedPillFusion 10y ago
Those are valid points, but each of these men displayed very alpha characteristics in other ways as well. Without getting into each, should it matter that the alpha/beta identity isn't quite as binary as "you are" or "you aren't"?
I've found that while I'm alpha in many situations, some things I'm still working on. Does that mean "I'm a beta"? Well, I don't think so. Trajectory matters.
SlamMyHam 10y ago
I do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUqaGjgA8BU
blacwidonsfw 10y ago
That was awesome. You can learn so much from the interaction. Power > money. That guy he commanded like a dog at the end is a billionaire. I was never sure of this before but now I am. power > money. Where power is your frame and value to the people in the room you are in at any given moment.
Drunken_dog 10y ago
"That guy he commanded like a dog at the end is a billionaire." So is Putin, in fact he may be the richest man in the world. Highest estimates for his worth exceed 250 billion dollars. In time he may be the first trillionaire, not that we would ever know he keeps his personal finances very private.
blacwidonsfw 10y ago
He basically owns a country.
MicroMinion 10y ago
Power !>money because money = power.
Money and Power are in direct correlation to each other. Money gives you power over people and material goods. You might call money the physical form of Power.
8n0n 10y ago
Take the money out of the equation if you want to weigh the power of a man.
If he can control the narrative of the people around him in his environment (like months back on this sub was mentioned about the homeless man who sleeps with women successfully for food, shelter and survival) then he is a man of power.
A man without money who couldn't control anyone is a powerless man, such wouldn't change if he had money.
Money would give him a means of obtaining power (buying resources and labor, such as legal advice and representation from a legal firm); but ultimately would make him less powerful than the former (a man who has power without money), were such to be given an equal amount of money. A powerless man is more prone to waste the money (most lotto winners) whereas a man of power is more likely to invest it (men who come by wealth through hard work, dedication and discipline).
TL/DR: 'Gordon Gekko: You're walking around blind without a cane, pal. A fool and his money are lucky enough to get together in the first place. '
Squeezymypenisy 10y ago
Men must still be governed. I think it should be very very limited government, but there must still be someone there.
KyfhoMyoba 10y ago
Do not confuse government with (the monopoly on violence and law of) the State.
plentyoffishes 10y ago
Why must there? And, then who governs that politician? Or governor? Do you think politicians are somehow magical and will make the right decisions for all with their ability to use violence?
Government is just people. To clamor for these people to dominate over you with force is not alpha or red pill at all.
bestpractice1 10y ago
the character of leaders seems to be significant...
Squeezymypenisy 10y ago
So how would society be under you? Are you like 5 years old? Redpill is a philosophy not a label.
KyfhoMyoba 10y ago
The Red Pill is a set of verifiable facts and falsifiable hypotheses.
mrp3anut 10y ago
because in the absence of leaders we choose we get leaders we dont choose. There will always be some form of "State" whether it is a king, a president, or the warlord down the road. Even if you manage to find gaults gulch someone will eventually show up with a B-52 and carpet bomb your paradise into submission if you have anything of value that they want.
plentyoffishes 10y ago
Uh...we don't choose these so-called leaders now. Your vote doesn't count and never has. Elections in the US are a joke. No, there will not always be a state. People have a need for autonomy and one day it will be realized.
Who rules over the state? People in government operate in a world of anarchy. Why do you think these government bureaucrats are fit to rule over you? Are you so incapable of directing your own life that you need strangers to force you around?
mrp3anut 10y ago
I don't need government to force me to do anything, but you need government to force me not to kill you if I decide I want your stuff. You will be governed, there is no choice in this other than how that government functions.
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MyReddit4 10y ago
Think of feminism as the brat student in your 4th grade homeroom.
You've got a room full of people, most of which follow the rules, listen to the instructor, and try anywhere from half-assedly to their damn best to participate in class. There's always the one kid who is an absolute shithead. Distracts everyone, crying, manipulating, and always full of excuses.
Letting that little brat go unchecked let's the other kids know that if they act out, there will be no punishment. Before you know it, the rest of the class (re: civilization) is chaos. Worse still, when this behavior is incentivized by the teacher (re: government.)
IllimitableMan 10y ago
Typically, when people ask lots of questions and have no disclosed position/input of their own, they are on the attack and just want to make you look dumb. I suspect this is what you're doing. That really, you don't have a pure desire to seriously discuss the questions you pose. Essentially, my suspicion is you are asking a chain of empty questions to put me on the defence (passive aggressive behaviour, because something beneath the surface bothers you.)
Then you can pick at the answers. And be generally undermining. I can see through that bullshit. I'm not interested in that bullshit.
If you are legitimately confused about why a sub about sexual strategy gives a shit about female behaviours, I don't know what to say to you. That's really dumb.
I will say this: some people on this sub look at the big picture, eg: what's good for society. Others only care about what is good for themselves and don't care about how it affects others, fuck society. Reading through the lines you sound like the latter, which is why you don't get (and possibly despise) the prior. Correct me if I'm wrong.
We aren't all the same. If I give a shit about society, I don't need to ask why someone who doesn't give a shit feels that way. I already have a fairly good idea.
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IllimitableMan 10y ago
They're not mutually exclusive. You can take care of yourself first, and then take care of society afterwards. The idiocy is when you look out for society to your own detriment. If you have power, you can afford to be generous. If you are weak you have to think "fuck society, I'm gonna get mine" because if you thought about society, you wouldn't survive, society would eat you. Not because society hates you, but because the weak who don't operate smartly get eaten. Altruism is not something you can really afford. The poor people who give to beggars are fools. The rich who don't have no heart.
To always be thinking "hey fuck everyone else, Imma get mine!" is a poverty mindset. Powerful people can afford to be generous, in fact I often think if not altruism or tax avoidance, that philanthropy is an act of narcissism. "Check out how rich I am, I can afford to dump millions on some random shit now everyone will like me. Let's have a big party and get a statue of myself made!"
Some people have so much money they could never spend it all on themselves. If you are doing well in life, you will care about the society you live in, you will want to better it because you live in it and have all your own needs met. Even if you are a psychopath, you will want the society you live in to be safe and stable so you don't have to move/conduct business elsewhere/risk your assets etc. Neglecting the state of society is short-sighted, we are all dependent on it.
TheYellowPill 10y ago
That's why some people give a shit about society. Because other people (politicians, feminists, corporations, etc) influence laws and set the social narratives that affect all of us.
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TheYellowPill 10y ago
Stop dodging. It is your problem as well. You can't start a business without jumping through regulations put in place to limit competition. You can't get married without risking losing half your assets, child custody, and alimony (depending on state). You must pay unjust taxes to give to others. I could go on.
You and I simply do a cost/benefits analysis and say I'd rather use my time to benefit me and just bend-over (accept) the influences of the masses. It's my opinion that it is too late--the iceberg has already hit the Titanic. Be ruthlessly selfish and enjoy the decline of civilization. Cheers.
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Myrpl 10y ago
I was browsing pornfree the other day and there was a thread with people saying "don't you feel bad because by watching porn you're encouraging the industry that treats women like trash? Most of them don't even enjoy it and they get exploited. Besides, you're conditioning yourself to objectify them and..."
I closed the tab at that point. There are right reasons to quit porn and wrong. These are the wrong ones.
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screamingATtrees 10y ago
So they complain about making money by doing the one thing most people enjoy doing for free?
Zero sympathy.
Now if she had to get up at 4 am and head into a coal mine to work a 12 hour shift to put food on her familiy's table with little chance of ever leaving I could see that being a hard life.
Getting thousands of dollars to be filmed while having sex is a privilege most men will never ever be offered.
j-coordinate 10y ago
I can't believe they enjoy it.i thought it fucked them in the head
Hateblade 10y ago
Like the one with the sappy boyfriend who made her quit (I have a feeling that was actually the mother and not him though) and made $25,000 in four months but only had $2000 left over to show for it in the end? But of course, whores gotta buy underwear. Boo hoo.
RedPillFusion 10y ago
This is just her instinct. She is trying to improve her position in perpetuity. If she's already making the money, she's getting AF (at least she's most likely convinced herself she is, which is actually not true - another story for another day), so the only clear way to continue moving up is become the false flag victim. Now she has a whole new arsenal and enemies to "beat".
asdfghjkltyu 10y ago
I loved how she was complaining that she was given $25,000 in the space of a few months yet had nothing to show for it because of "Cloths, haircuts and makeup". Yeah right. She had nothing to show for it because she no doubt wasted her money. That is still a fairly huge sum of cash.
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aguy01 10y ago
Exactly. The men in porn get paid dirt compared to the women. Prostitution really is empowering to women because it lets them extract money from men for virtually no effort. Working 60+ hour weeks is excruciating compared to fucking a few people throughout the week and playing on pinterest the rest of the time.
moose_war 10y ago
Even worse, nowadays you have "professional cuddlers"- women who makes 60 bucks an hour to cuddle men. Fully clothed. No sexual stuff. They aren't very attractive, but they still get clients.
You have women making $75 by selling a pair of worn panties. You have FinDom, women essentially extorting men for money, no sex involved, and the men get off on it.
If you think fucking for money is easy, just wait until this new decade dawns. You're going to have women having life even easier.
account_rp 10y ago
I wish I could make $75 for selling a pair of my used underwear. I'd charge extra for post-workout underwear too if I could.
$75 a day is an extra $27,375 a year.
edit. Actually there is a market for used men's underwear, but it doesn't get 1/3 of the price of women's underwear.
unassumingusername7 10y ago
I'm thinking of just making up a fake Instagram whore and selling "used" panties.
1003rp 10y ago
I was going to say you can definitely sell your underwear as a man but definitely not a large of a market.
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Thethrowawayoption 10y ago
It's even worse than that. As a man in porn you're usually pushed to always be at maximum hardness. Nobody wants to see floppy dicks. You wouldn't think that'd be an issue, but shoots can take hours. So you end up taking viagra and eventually you're injecting things into your cock. Guys ruin themselves for porn.
newmeforever 10y ago
I once met an ex male pornstar from the 80s, and he told me stories about how remaining hard for hours at a time became a real challenge. In addition, the act of maintaining an erection for so long became painful, and he would have to ice his balls later in the night in order for them to feel better and less sore for the next days shoot.
OUCH.
CheezStik 10y ago
Men are the real victims here
lakingscrzy 10y ago
To be fair the main girl of the doc was hospitalized for a swollen 'juice gland' from all the fucking
watersign 10y ago
Exactly ...and no one gives a fuck about them
CheezStik 10y ago
Errr...did anyone get that I was being ironic?
damnnonames 10y ago
Are you kidding? I bet very few women in porn enjoy what they're doing. Yes it's their choice and they can leave when they want but they are working in a field where the joy is being taken out of an intimate act. It's probably incredibly humiliating to be a girl in porn.
Squeezymypenisy 10y ago
James dean said that wasn't true. He said girls that don't enjoy it don't last. The spend hours filimg everyday and he said most enjoy it somehow.
RemyPrice 10y ago
I've dated a porn star, and this is simply untrue.
Many of them don't even do it for the money; they do it for the tingles they get knowing thousands of betas are watching them and getting turned on.
blandboringusername 10y ago
In the Documentary Graphic Sexual Horror Cyd Black said his girlfriend at the time, Spacegirl (her porn name) would hardly do anything kinky with him in private, but when the cameras were rolling she would do anything. Just look at some old Insex videos. That was one nasty girl, but only for the camera.
account_rp 10y ago
If he isn't the type to get off from that kind of humiliation then it would be horrible to be a cuckold on that level.
Drinkingintheshower 10y ago
You need to take what you just said a bit further. Yes, it probably is humiliating, but that makes the woman doing porn a victim.
Being a victim gives her sympathy, and gives a weight to her opinion she otherwise would never have. Do you really think someone wouldn't appreciate that status?
nothere_ 10y ago
being a male isn't as fun as most imagine it to be
Robert_Walker 10y ago
Women put being a male on the highest of pedestals.
I get so tired of being told how easy life is for me because I'm a man. They don't see me working my ass off.
KyfhoMyoba 10y ago
Because they confuse the benefits of being an apex alpha male with the duties and sacrifices that all the other beta and below males make.
nothere_ 10y ago
oh shit I really meant to say "being a male pornstar"
Movonnow 10y ago
You never had sex with a woman who foud you attractive.
Masonjarteadrinker2 10y ago
LMAO you're probably right.
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Moridakkubokka 10y ago
Women enjoy being humilated.
primedego 10y ago
She will let you cum on her face and then proceed to eat it and smile while looking you in the eyes if she thinks you are the alpha.
NotUpToAnythingGood 10y ago
Hell, my wife will ask me do this to her if I even give the slightest hint I want to. She loves it.
When you are alpha enough for a woman, she will ask / let you do some pretty amazing things to her.
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stillphat 10y ago
Uhh. Dude. A rough face fuck isn't every girls dream. But Don't get me wrong, they get paid handsomely
Rathadin 10y ago
Of course not... which is why my last ex-girlfriend - who was raped when she was 17 by the way - loved it when I came on her face, asked for me to come on her face, and loved me holding her head in my hands and fucking her mouth.
You're totally right.
stillphat 10y ago
Jesus Christ dude. Congrats for finding a girl that was into getting a steamy nut to the face. I wish they were for better reasons though :\
MagnanimousGenius 10y ago
Girls love taking that for an 'alpha'. Don't bullshit a bullshitter
rpreader 10y ago
Seriously. I like watching the 'facial abuse' series and all those women, even the ones crying, say in the end how much fun they had.
Most girls didn't even have to do it. One of the girls, "mayli", turned out, came from a very affluent family and was doing all of that for the 'fun' of it.
lakingscrzy 10y ago
The Avengers actually happened, too.
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squirtmasterd 10y ago
What amazed me was how both her and her mother thought that the pull out method was ok, and how plan B was used with such ease. Sec education and health care in America is so fucked up.
"it's OK mum they cum on my face not inside me so I won't get pregnant!"
meet_me_at_high_noon 10y ago
I'm currently watching it at work. I have two thoughts-
1) these women are incredibly narcissistic
2) as long as there is a market for this, it will exist. Thats capitalism. Theres no moral compass in a free market, just money.
3) here are these women who want freedom and complain about how men have treated them, while simultaneously doing whatever the men who are their bosses tell them to do and who are serious assholes. The cognitive dissidence is incredible.
watersign 10y ago
I wonder when the feminists are going to champion for the rights and equal treatment of MALE pornstars. Male porn stars are probably lucky to earn $100 a shoot unless they're established and they are even treated worse than women are in the industry.
You wont hear anyone crying for them because quite frankly, no male feels bad for another male who gets PAID to have sex since for most of us on this rock we call earth, have to pay for it in some shape way or form.
indlife 10y ago
If a young women today chooses porn she knows exactly where her life is heading. She likely isn't going to be able to just wash the past and find some BB. A co-worker in his 20s was telling me about a girl he knew from high school sports that he hooked up with. He said one of his friends saw her on a porn website. I pretty much knew it was likely one of those amateur porn websites. She was a collegiate athlete and all, went to a big name school. Funny thing was that about three weeks after he told me this she was outed on The Dirty website. This was over Christmas break and she had photos on Facebook of her with some guy, almost looked like engagement type photos, but I can't recall if she was wearing a ring.
Well, within a half day her Facebook was erased. Clearly people were able to find her (her home city was listed on the school website) and likely sent her who knows what in terms of messages. The fact is, this girl is completely ruined in terms of any sort of LTR or marriage if she gets with any guy who knows a friend of a friend. She did one video, one, under a fake name. She likely got paid $3,000 tops, and her entire reputation gets ruined. She is no longer on the sports team as the school pulled her profile page and due to it being a private, religious institution, she likely was kicked out of school (if she was even still attending).
These girls are completely broken, having been sold this lie that sex is "no big deal." So this small % of young women take it to the next level, having no concept that just a few grand is really nothing, nothing compared to what someone will make in life even if they just made $30K/year. Hell, one young lady did a shoot for a similar website and ended up committing suicide over it.
With as many young men who are viewing porn at record rates, any young woman is going to be outed in her home town. It is just that simple. Also, someone could make a killing by using facial recognition software on these videos and selling their services to PIs who are hired by men to vet prospective spouses. Run their face through facial recognition and see if they pop-up on any of these websites.
watersign 10y ago
GirlsDoPorn...share the link pls
99centHeartattck 10y ago
exactly. imagine if anyone can google your name and find video after video of guys fucking the shit out of you.
peggasissy 10y ago
What I think is the most fucked up in the situation is that we are a society that would shame a woman for having sex on camera and then say that she was taken advantage of because of her young age. While at the same time we would send men into war for some bullshit reason and we call them heroes for killing innocent women and children.
oldbluebox 10y ago
There's a girl I know who was recently discovered for doing some cam videos.
She went ahead and deleted everyone off of Facebook and I know a few people who feel bad for her but a couple who don't.
I consider it a job hazard. She made some easy money for doing nothing but masturbating on camera. Unfortunately the videos will be up for the rest of her life and only for all of her future friends (and possibly family) to discover. Sucks but that's one of the risks you take when going this easy route for some quick cash.
I feel no real sympathy for her. Nobody FORCED HER to do porn. It's not like she was poor and starving. Fuck, even in the videos she's laughing and giggling like she's having a good time. Sure she was 19 and stupid but that's the thing, you're a legal adult at this age. She was an independent woman capable of making her own decisions and she did. Now she's paying the price; embarrassment and losing (her choice) all of her friends.
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yesidoes 10y ago
Honestly, this is bullshit.
If she could stay straight at a waitress job for 3 years and delete her facebook, her video would be lost in the fog (millions of videos produced every year) and she could get a job in many different industries (especially big corporate jobs like Hertz, Penske, Ace hardware, etc.)
The problem is that most people who want to make quick money like this have no idea how to really cut the ties to their past or are simply to lazy to do so.
indlife 10y ago
Most could disappear, but they would absolutely have to cut all ties to the past. I'm not a big Facebook person, I have less than 100 "friends." Even with just that few of friends I'm amazed at how many connections I see every so often. For example, sometimes I look up people who were recently arrested for some newsworthy crime. Every so often there is a connection, a friend of a friend. You look at other people with 1,000+ friends, it is just too easy to see a connection and make some inquires about a person.
The problem is not only cutting all times, but almost having to completely fabricate your entire life. Too many people are connected now, especially with Facebook. This girl I'm talking about was a track star at a major university. I can only imagine she was very good in high school. She went to a large high school in a mid-sized metro area. I can only imagine how many friends she had attached to her profile. Interesting enough word was getting around locally before The Dirty broke the news. Obviously one or more of the guys that knew her either had a membership to GDP or was surfing around and stumbled up on her video. Either way, with more and more people moving all over, with numerous Facebook connections, she couldn't even tell any future LTR/spouse what high school she went to. A simple post about a new girlfriend/spouse and where she was from on his Facebook could unveil all of it.
void_rocket 10y ago
Did your co worker share a link?
fittitthroway 10y ago
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/idgas.gif
MyRedAccount 10y ago
Stop whining about pornstars just because you can't control them or yourself. It's not like everybody has to work anymore. Let those who want to euthanize themselves with video games and porn do so. You're just going to piss off the honey badger shitting on pornstars.
Besides, pornstars are awesome, if you don't already know think about them from a civilized perspective. They're like hookers except they spread less disease. Even Rome had hookers. Any pornstar that wanted to break herself for me I'd take care of if I were a pimp. That's a road to the high life right there, and you know what the cost is? Practically nothing. It's not even traveled.
You'd need cat's eyes, a silver tongue, and at least a pimp grade walk and then you're practically Satan himself if you can take just a few of them. Hell, I'm even tempted. That would be so much fun.
Why are you even preaching moralizing shit about pornstars here? It's not like they're bad for civilization. They're part of evolution.
Strongproudwoman 10y ago
There is a news clip on YouTube about some young girl outed for one porn video. She couldn't handle school and the bad rep so she bought a shotgun, went down to the docks by some lake and blew her brains out into the lake. No joke look it up.
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Linrraba 10y ago
They pretty much solved it by dating people that also work in porn. Also, if they make it big, there'll always be a fan willing to marry them.
Matsew 10y ago
why would a man in porn date a filthy whore though?
vakerr 10y ago
This is probably as common as Richard Gere marrying them.
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Linrraba 10y ago
No need of being Richard Geere. I doubt big shots like Alexis Texas or Gianna Michaels don't have lots of dudes that would love being their bb.
vakerr 10y ago
Possible, there are lots of dumb, screwed up people. I'd never consider any such woman for an LTR, let alone marriage.
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Shiningknight12 10y ago
Given how screwed up people in porn are I doubt they want to date each other.
Linrraba 10y ago
They do. Manuel Ferrara with Kayden Cross, James Deen with Stoya, Tory Black with Mimefreak, Mark Wood with Francesca Le and so on.
PetrolFlavored 10y ago
LOL how/why do you know this shit?
Linrraba 10y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcKBmdfpWs
Squeezymypenisy 10y ago
Check out the duke pornstar
I_luv_twinks 10y ago
Also, Paige Jennings aka Veronica Vain.
Got caught posting nude selfies the bathroom of her wall street job, and decided a career in porn would be more lucrative than working in finance with her Bachelors degree.
She did one movie, got paid, and hasn't done anything since. Well played, whore.
200mgtestc 10y ago
This is exactly what I was going to say. She started out throwing porn-as-liberation in everyone's faces, got used and abused, and now I don't think she likes where she's at. She had fun for a year or so, but it's come with tremednous consequences.
Adam and Dr. Drew have actually been calling it the entire time. Drew came under fire (he said on a podcast that if he were her dad, he'd kill himself), but having listened to it, it was out of genuine concern because he knew how it would end, and she didn't.
Squeezymypenisy 10y ago
Shes was woman studies right? Such a waste at a school so prestigious.
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BigDiggerNick74 10y ago
They actually discussed her in the documentary. The most ironic part is that she's a feminist majoring in gender studies, yet she did a facial abuse porn video.
Efukt video (NSFW) http://efukt.com/21134_The_Duke_University_Feminist_Pornstar.html
The best part is the end when they talk about pay gap
Her: "Women should get equal pay for doing the same job!"
Porn photographer: "...But women make much more than men in the porn industry"
Her: "Well... Umm... That's because we live in a capitalist society"
A duke educated pornstar feminist gets owned by a porn video photographer. You can't make this shit up.
AntixD 10y ago
the video guy is pretty smart,he has a few videos like that and he does that to every girl
KyfhoMyoba 10y ago
This is no longer ironic to any man that has ingested TRP and has dated a feminist. I have had a feminist plate, and I have read posts and comments from other TRPers that have had feminist plates. Every one reports a craving for dominance and/or humiliation from said feminist plates.
NADER_THE_GATOR 10y ago
Can confirm, this one feminist chick was really into getting chocked and slapped, not gonna lie it really caught me off guard when it happened
legedu 10y ago
This. Had a self proclaimed feminist plate. She loved being dominated. Found out later her ex-boyfriend was a fucking NBA all star.
watersign 10y ago
she was a purple crayon sucker too!
DarkyDarkskin 10y ago
This is part of the reason why I think higher education in the US is just bullshit. Useless individuals like this piece of shit is able to get into Duke and waste it on "gender studies". Meanwhile, a white Anglo Saxon male like myself has to bust my ass at CC for two years just to be able to get into a school of that tier. Oh but Im sure she got accepted because of her "extracurricular activities" and some dumbass club she was a part of in high school. And she is a woman. Damn I'm salty right now.
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Institutionalized oppression of the white male.
DarkyDarkskin 10y ago
That is precisely what it is.
watersign 10y ago
dont worry bro, in 5-10 years you'll be a manager at some big corporation and getting paid the big bucks to do nothing. that's where the WASPS who dont make it to wall street go
DarkyDarkskin 10y ago
That's true. It is pretty much how my family is so I have that to look forward to.
watersign 10y ago
yup..gotta love corporate america lol
cnwilks 10y ago
If she could draw a foul for the kind of flopping she did, Coach K would start her.
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watersign 10y ago
yeah dude. Girls do Porn = profiting off of US economic decline
DistantWinter 10y ago
Watched this yesterday. Wasn't that bad of a documentary and I wasn't too surprised by what I saw.
The guy pimping these girls was a piece of trash. Not for what he was doing, but simply that is what he is. He was the same as a low level drug pusher and had an IQ equivalent of your inbred white trash cowboy. He flipped burgers before pimping and posts an add on Craigslist. Picks a trick up from the airport and gets her work. Not his fault they do this.
Personally I've always been under the impression that a lot of women/girls in porn are there due to lower class economic reasons. Grew up poor, in foster care, broken homes, etc.. The thing that struck me was that the three women they followed did not grow up in broken homes. They actually grew up in nice middle class USA. They simply rationalized wanting a good time with sucking strange cock on camera for money.
The reality and it was stated right in the beginning of the movie was that the girls in the best case scenario last one year. The one girl who was an undercover predator herself had been there for about two years and had been raped on camera for cash and you could visibly see the emotional and mental damage it did to her. Yet she stayed and enabled the other girls with fake empathy and what not. Any human that gets into any type of relationship with this woman will not fair well. She is seriously damaged and talks of being "messed up" from doing that scene.
The guy who got a promise ring for the main girl that started the movie off. I watched as he tried to hamster his own conclusions as to why he stayed with her. The frat guys who covertly made fun of her didn't want that trash around either. The guy playing beer pong looks at her after asking if they should bring her scenes up on the TV shrugs in a way to suggest "what the fuck did you expect?" Blue Pill Beta stands there and allows it. She continues to get fat and now works as a waitress. He gets engaged to her and still talks and tries to reason with her past at the end. What an idiot.
The girl with the big glasses that gets perved on by the old ugly guy in the movie shoot. 48 hours before the shoot... Everything was awesome!!! Party.. Yeah.. Whooo Hoooo!!!! It's a good time !!
Two days later and some ugly guy her fathers age is crawling up on her pounding on her. She's damaged for the rest of her life. Still don't feel a bit of sorrow for her.
End of the movie tears are shed, heads are shaking in woe, hamster wheels spin off the axle and 8 new girls move in for all the glory that awaits them.
None of these people were stupid or mentally handicapped. Nobody forced them to do what they did. Nobody was kidnapped or sold into slavery. Nobody was molested or sexually abused. They were not victims and it takes away sympathy and focus from the real victims of human trafficking. It was pure operational motives based off feelings by a hive of children and like mindedness of narcissism. They wanted gratification now.
They will always be damaged emotionally and set forth a ripple effect of bad feelings and lower their socioeconomic standards for years to come. Their children will suffer. Their family members will be impacted.
I still have zero sympathy for any of them. They were not victims and no self respecting person would keep a person like that in their life and contemplate settling and having children with them.
asdfghjkltyu 10y ago
Did you notice his tone change drastically after the main girl left. He could barely even be bothered speaking to her. He wasn't encouraging them to get out, he made a cut for them staying there.
_fappycamper 10y ago
When you say "minefield" do you mean full of triggers, or a "goldmine must watch?"
RiseAboveRuin 10y ago
I don't mind
Thethrowawayoption 10y ago
Some men get off on having other men fuck their girlfriend and/or being cuckolded. We may not be able to empathize, but w/e let them have at it.
ECoast_Man 10y ago
No self respecting guy would?
The fact of the matter is, the dude is insecure as fuck and thinks having the 'hottest' girl, means the 'best' girl.
And these asses are willing to get cuckded for it. It's pathetic really.
asdfghjkltyu 10y ago
The girl does seem pretty 'cool' about it all I must admit, he basically insults her to her face and she holds frame and doesn't given an inch. Just agrees with him. I'm not sure if thats because she sees him as below her or not.
I could kind of understand him dating her casually if he's having a good time, but living with her?
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Squeezymypenisy 10y ago
Its not hard to do porn. There are two websites where companies put up casting calls for what they need. For males the pay was around 100 to 500. However you have to go for hours and you cant cum until director says you can. You may or may not get to creampie.
Oarngie 10y ago
There was a scene where the mother asked the boyfriend "how can you be with her". When she quit porn I bet you she found a new boyfriend with more self respect now that she's not getting a train run on her ass. She used the boyfriend to feel normal and to keep her company while she made her money.
moose_war 10y ago
I don't think it's the same doc, but I saw the more recent Louis Theroux doc about pornstars. He interviews Kagney Lynn Carter, who, without her make up just seems haggard and tired.
But even worse is her boyfriend, some tall black dude who is her full time assistant. She is the money maker, and he comes off as the bitch/leech. He doesn't want her to do some scene where 5 guys are gonna spray her face with jizz, but she puts her foot down because it means more money for her (and him).
That boyfriend is the kind of guy of the future. That is what it looks like when a guy is the "Stay at home" boyfriend. I have no idea where these guys' spines went. They can't even support themselves, first of all, which is bad enough, and they just date women who take bukkakes from other men. How degrading.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
yeah I saw it and it's more anti sex feminist propaganda against the porn industry.
By far the best doco I have seen about porn stars on Netflix is "aroused" which just lets the stars speak for themselves. It's full of RP gold.
TheEssexian 10y ago
Some guys are wired that way.
Not everybody can be an 'alpha'. There are guys who like watching their girl get railed by other guys. There is a certain degree of honesty in that. It isn't for everybody, but biologically speaking, it does serve to arouse. Semen will actually attack alien semen, and the biological desire to propagate your own seed can cause a 'stir'.
And some guys want to feel like a hero.
Everybody has their own thing. The world needs betas and epsilons.
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rojo-pildora 10y ago
Female empowerment starts with realizing that they are not able to defend or take care of themselves. Their whole angle is to trick men into buying this helpless conn and let the guy (beta) take care of them. Thus the whole feminist movement.
SunshineBlotters 10y ago
If you aint gonna marry em I dont see what the problem would be.
The problem is being in an "exclusive on your end" relationship with them while they are fucking 15 dudes a week.
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Modern__Day__Pricus 10y ago
I seen the trailer for this bullshit.
Why should I give a fuck about what another woman's does that isn't family?
These women were grown not children. Screw that noise. They made their choices and now I am expected to care and show compassion for................. what?
C'mon man.
dongpal 10y ago
there are so many TV series about stuff like this and I dont watch a single one, and I see my mom watching all this shit and I'm like "who cares?"
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I_luv_twinks 10y ago
Louis Theroux did an awesome documentary called "Twilight of the Porn Stars" which I'd imagine is very similar in scope to the one mentioned in the OP.
I haven't checked this one out yet, but the topic is fascinating -- from both a psychological and sociological perspective.
TheRedPilsner 10y ago
I watched that documentary a few months ago after seeing it recommended in a TRP thread.
The scene with Kagney Linn Karter and her boyfriend made me cringe.
Sirinon 10y ago
That scene was incredibly cringeworthy, the part where they argue over the gang bang especially.
plentyoffishes 10y ago
Yep, saw it. Thought the same thing about the BF. Dude was getting abused. Seemed like a reasonably good looking guy that had scarcity mentality.
I didn't get the victim mentality as much as you did. The guy that was organizing the women wasn't painted as evil, they easily could have made him a bad guy but didn't.
I don't for the life of me see how guys could actually date these damaged women. But, these guys are also damaged in their own way. I have cleaned up my act so I have a hard time understanding it, but most guys have not.
ont_anon 10y ago
I watched it the other night. I enjoyed when the girls were going on about their freedom and the glamour, but the house that guy - their "agent" - had them all living in? It was a dumpy shithole.
Multiple girls crammed into one bedroom, mattresses with no sheets, holes in the drywall. I can imagine how far they had to drive for the real glamour of Miami, because where they were living? It definitely wasn't there.
Chinkibus 10y ago
Having a pornstar girlfriend would be awesome. All the sex i want, she would do chores or buy me shit, i could obviously fuck women on the side. If you're RP you wouldn't love her anyways. It's like having a plate that'll do even more.
Shit,you'd probably be able to fuck her friends and she would bring you pussy
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scarletspider3 10y ago
yeah right and stick your dick in her while it's still filled with cum from the DP she just had. Don't encourage those whores.
Chinkibus 10y ago
Well since I'm not retarded I'm not going to fuck a girl after she fucks someone else. You think the girls you're fucking aren't fucking other guys? I'd rather have a whore upfront so i know what I'm getting into. It's like no guys in here acknowledge that girls get dick on the side
scarletspider3 10y ago
your talking being a cuck. If she has dick on the side chuck her.
Chinkibus 10y ago
Na dude, a cuck enjoys his girl getting fucked. I wouldn't enjoy it but i know what to expect when you date a whore. Go ahead and chuck your girls then
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Chinkibus 10y ago
The fuck is an alpha cock? If she doesn't fuck then no man would keep her around. Porn stars still fuck off the clock
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Chinkibus 10y ago
Based off your perception of the alpha cock and your Lewis black level of angrily scratching for arguments I'd say you're one of those guys with a short dick and a bad attitude about it. I'm comfortable with this hog I'm working with because i know any girl would be very happy with it.
I'm not worried about lines of betas,because why the fuck would i be. Also i could fuck her or any other girl i wanted to so I'd definitely get all the sex i wanted.
You're an angry moron
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Chinkibus 10y ago
I guess that's why you replied to it?
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Chinkibus 10y ago
Oh you call people chode,my mistake i thought i was arguing with an adult not a lobotomite