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I've known Ashley since about Freshman year of high school. I always thought she was cute (fat ass, nice tits, pretty good face, HB 7.5ish), but never really talked much to her. She was always on the periphery of my friend group. The kind of person I might smile or wave at in the hall, but not hang out with after school. I never thought much of it other than she was hot.

Anyway, last week I get a text out of nowhere from her saying she thought she saw me at a bar (it wasn't me). We start talking and find out we're working in the same city and live about 20 minutes away from each other.

At this point, TRP knowledge kicks in automatically. She's pretty and has a forceful personality so she's used to guys just going along with whatever she says. I make a point to disagree in a way that playfully belittles her. E.G:

Her: X bar is the best in the whole city

Me: Yeah haha I also liked X bar back when I was using a fake

The conversation turned to politics at one point and I discovered she's now a full blown "men suck" feminist type. I'm pretty left-wing myself (probably closest to libertarian socialist), but we disagree on pretty much everything, so I ratchet up the tension a bit by making playfully sexist comments and not taking her seriously. Think: father-daughter attitude.

As a side note, not every message was like this. The "pull" is almost as important as the "push". Otherwise it just becomes annoying and you end up being the one who looks childish.

Fast-forward to Saturday night and I'm out with friends in the city. She texts me asking what's up and I find out she's with her friends just a few bars down the street.

Then comes the shit test: "I'd ask you to come see me but my boyfriend wouldn't like that".

At this point, I know it's pretty much in the bag. I choose the 'ignore' option and say "we've already been over that way but you can come to X". She says something about how this is so bad and how we shouldn't see each other etc. I withdraw attention and actually forget about her because it was getting late. I take an uber back to my house which was like a mile away. When I get home, I open my phone to another text from her asking where I am. I invite her over to my place and witness an absolute Olympic-caliber hamster performance:

https://imgur.com/AM8BAVp

She shows up to my place, I fuck her in the ass (she loves anal, lucky me), and I send her home. She says she'll kill me if I tell anyone. Yesterday she asked me to fuck her again and I declined; too busy. Boyfriend of 3 years looks like a nice guy on FB. I wonder when they'll get married?

EDIT: Lots of good discussion on the post, but I’m also getting a ton of comments asking what the fuck libertarian socialism is. If you’re interested in talking/debating about it please at least read the wiki first and then message me or we can discuss on another public forum. I’d rather stick to TRP concepts on the TRP subreddit.

[-] 0kool74 707 Points 4 months ago

No doubt her boyfriend will be visiting this sub in less than a year!

[-] ariky 394 Points 4 months ago

We should arrange a welcome party for him ????

[-] Operator216 180 Points 4 months ago

I'll bring the weights. Someone clean up solitary the Monk Mode room for him and put a few months of books in there for him. He'll need it.

[-] imtheoneimmortal 85 Points 4 months ago

and read this post and say fuck ltr

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[-] stirringlion 1 Point 4 months ago

Fuck yeah, I love stories like this where a dude uses the skills and knowledge he’s gained here and slays. Im still in the anger stage so it feels like sweet revenge!!!

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[-] mette13 392 Points 4 months ago

Its stories like these that make LTRs look less and less viable today. Good post OP.

[-] TonytheNetworker 259 Points 4 months ago

Seriously. You can be doing everything right and the girl feels like she's lonely or bored or whatever reason and some Chad comes and proceeds to make her his bitch. Having multiple plates with low investment seems like my option for the foreseeable future.

[-] the-dan-man 121 Points 4 months ago

To be fair, a lot of guys would take that opportunity too. And lets not pretend we wouldnt. I have friends who have. Hot blondewithout attachments comes your way, your GF is out of town or been on holiday for a couple weeks, hard to say no, right?

[-] drty_pr 163 Points 4 months ago

This is true. We like to paint all women as cheater in the RedPill world. The reality is men and women both cheat.

Women are more likely to cheat if the guy is of higher value. Right place, right time, right alpha

Men are more likely to cheat if they think they'll get away with it. Right place, right chick, right circumstances

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[-] MisterRoid 13 Points 4 months ago

Well-put. And even though we have paternity tests today, keep in mind that most men are too naive to test their -- or "their" -- children, and in some countries they are even illegal (fucking sickening).

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[-] sadshark 12 Points 4 months ago

She herself believes by heart that she is loyal, but she is victim of her programming

That's fucking spot on and well said.

However, there's a big leap from being attracted to chad to actually taking his dick in her ass. All the steps needed to get to that point are conscious and she's not a zombie who acted 100% on her programming.

At one point her conscious got in the car, drove to his place, had a few drinks, kissed him, undressed, and took his cock. She could've stopped herself at any point before.

So yeah, attraction can't be controlled, but actions can.

[-] topchef808 7 Points 4 months ago

I believe it was Chris Rock who said "A man is as faithful as his options" ????

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[-] sadshark 6 Points 4 months ago

Not really. We, as men, dont have the ability to hamster a reason why we cheated. So, after cheating we are left with remorse, and a general bad feeling, unlike women who can 'find' a 'legit' reason why they did it and live hapilly ever after without remorse.

Generally, if you are in a LTR and cheat is a sign of weakness. If you are compelled to cheat, then break the LTR and find one where you dont want to cheat or just spin plates.

[-] foxhound525 3 Points 4 months ago

It's only hard to say no if you are weak AF or you genuinely don't care about being loyal.

[-] AshyLarry27 2 Points 4 months ago

Glad this is coming to light. My biggest issue with everyone yelling "AWALT" is it comes off like women alone are the disloyal heathens. They simply benefit from the societal norms of us having to approach them. We would have an easier time putting more plates in the cabinet if plates just walked up to us all the time too. Everything about AWALT is fairly what guys would be like if we didn't have to work at approach and everything else

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[-] askmrcia 21 Points 4 months ago

In this case op didn't even come along. She thought pursued him. Op was pretty much ignoring her and she kept initiating the texts.

[-] Greek-God-Brody 11 Points 4 months ago

What is you want to have a son, leave your mark on the world (reproduce)?

[-] doorterblack 13 Points 4 months ago

Go full on African mode and fuck every girl in sight then disappear

[-] MaximiliionPegasus 13 Points 4 months ago

This is not good. I can't understand how you are being upvoted.

Every child has a right to have a dad. If you do not want to raise your child, you should not reproduce.

Be a good dad and give him/her and raise them well so they can make the world a better place.

[-] RedPilledRoaster 4 Points 4 months ago

No one has the right to anything.

"Making the world a better place" is just a blue-pilled solution to the question of "purpose."

[-] MaximiliionPegasus 7 Points 4 months ago

Having a child is having a responsibility. You can't abandon your child. Be a good dad.

[-] Disobedient_Citizen1 1 Point 4 months ago

Being a responsible parent to a your offspring is a socially agreed upon moral consensus, it is not aligned with actual reality but with social reality. In other words being a good parent is due not entirely but largely to social conditioning, saying that childr3n have the right to a good father would imply that objective reality is fair in thr social sense, it would be morally correct but realistically incorrect.

[-] MaximiliionPegasus 1 Point 4 months ago

So basically you are saying that I'm correct?

Also you spoke about objective reality. What is exactly objective reality, how could we define this term? After you define this, I want to ask: Should we live by objective reality? Because I wouldn't want to live without my awesome father and I'm glad to the ideas/norms that led to his decision. If we lived in an era that wasn't common for men to look for their offspring, I wouldn't be happy.

[-] RedPilledRoaster 0 Points 4 months ago

I suggest you read over the rules before you get banned

[-] MaximiliionPegasus 2 Points 4 months ago

Why would I be banned for saying this? Which rule states that we cannot enforce the idea to people to be a good dad to your offspring?

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[-] Htowngetdown 1 Point 4 months ago

You can do that but you just have to be prepared for anything

[-] Drumcode-Equals-Life 8 Points 4 months ago

I’ve realized its way better having a couple plates than a serious relationship. I’m free to do whatever my heart desires with my life, free from some harpy clutching my ball bag, and I still get laid whenever I want in my two favorite cities.

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[-] MakeMenGreatAgain44 4 Points 4 months ago

Man I want to be that gorilla

[-] tarck 2 Points 4 months ago

She will not feel lonely or bored if You will do everything right

[-] MrAnderzon 14 Points 4 months ago

Nothing wrong with LTR if you alread know the risks vs rewards.

Abundance mentality always prevails LTR and plate spinning.

[-] -saltymangos- 10 Points 4 months ago

dumb question but what is LTR?

[-] OneInAZillion 44 Points 4 months ago

Lord of The Rings. Try to keep up.

[-] davvya 3 Points 4 months ago

fuck you for making me LOL

[-] MisterNotKnowItAll 29 Points 4 months ago

Long Term Relationship. There a post somewhere in the sidebar that explains all of the acronyms and phrases used here.

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[-] thesearenicethings 7 Points 4 months ago

This girl is just a piece of shit.

[-] ThatMuscleUpGuy 3 Points 4 months ago

Just this girl? AWALT is real.

[-] tempolaca 3 Points 4 months ago

Its stories like these that make LTRs look less and less viable today.

You think this didn't happened before? why do you think there's always a kid in the familiy that looks like the milkman?

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[-] Smigg_e 1 Point 4 months ago

Bro if you're girl is able to act like that you're not doing your job at all. Fuck that.

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[-] fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck- 268 Points 4 months ago

Haha. Right. And she’s probably never let her boyfriend fuck her ass, claiming she hates it.

[-] pressurevoid 119 Points 4 months ago

I´ve seen this! It´s awfull! I had a friend that his girlfriend didn´t sucked is dick, then it come out that she had another guy in colege and she was doing everything!

At that time i was shocked...

[-] ValarMorghulis90 89 Points 4 months ago

I'll do you one better. I had a 6'3 batman ass looking stud of a friend who met a tatted whore on Tinder. I attempted to warn him, as we all know the signs. He ends up dating her (still is). 3 months in she spills that she used to be very sexual (I'm guessing in the 20s at least) and at one point caught chlamydia. During this whole time she has never blown him (still hasn't by the way). Another month passes, and my bro has oral herpes. She claimed that she didn't know he would catch it because she hadn't had an outbreak in years. Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

Classic "I'm used up so I gotta lock down a controllable man." My friend is now confined to a limited dating pool due to his permanent condition. Solid top 10% dude. Easily. And he just FUCKED himself. I wouldn't be surprised if she has cheated or will cheat. Honestly, I'm expecting it.

[-] fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck- 77 Points 4 months ago

Oral herpes isn’t a big deal. At all. He still has his pick of women, assuming he ever removes his head from his ass.

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[-] Pepethe1stofHisName 61 Points 4 months ago

dude, 50-80% of the U.S. adult population has oral herpes

[-] NomBok 7 Points 4 months ago

Still, if he had known he could have started taking acyclovir to prevent getting it at all.

[-] ValarMorghulis90 1 Point 4 months ago

I realize this; however, there is still a huge stigma behind it for a lot of people. He's a good person, I just would hate to see it bite him in the ass later. Lots of people would nope the fuck out of that once you tell them.

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[-] MisterRoid 20 Points 4 months ago

Lol @ oral herpes being a big deal. It's not.

[-] GreatWhiteCuck 6 Points 4 months ago

I dated a girl an American girl who had an oral herpes break out. Claimed she didn't know she had it.

[-] AlQWEffos239 10 Points 4 months ago

Is oral herpes the same thing as cold sores?, if so I get it once a year.

[-] FormOfTheChair 5 Points 4 months ago

Yes, cold sores are because of HSV1.

[-] GreatWhiteCuck 5 Points 4 months ago

How do people not know this

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[-] circasurvivor1 1 Point 4 months ago

Dude I got a permanent autoimmune condition (full blown arthritis and tendinitis to the point I can’t play guitar/drums/sing anymore and I really had the goods for a future career in music) from girlfriending a whore that gave me chlamydia. Fucking chlamydia. Can trigger autoimmune in susceptible people. Oral herpes isn’t the worst thing in the world but I still feel his pain.

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[-] 0kool74 1 Point 4 months ago

I don't know why this guy is taking Ls on his comment. I actually agree with him.

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[-] JamzeNeu 91 Points 4 months ago

Rollo has an interesting take on it. https://i.imgur.com/bWcEBHf.jpg

[-] GL_QUAD 10 Points 4 months ago

So very true... and so very sad, if you are rather far away from their qualification criteria (like me).

After some dull time in the coffee shop, a girl that had been boring me says this in a very brash tone: I'm not going with you to that secluded place 'cause I don't know you.

To which I reply: I know what you are really saying.

It really does stretch as far as this. The guy who can negotiate his way to some starfish-sex, he's not that bad when compared to this shitshow.

[-] UEMcGill 16 Points 4 months ago

It's not sex if it's butt sex. That's what her hamster will say if she gets busted.

[-] dDiegoDLV 27 Points 4 months ago

Op goes for the poophole loophole. The girl tells her bf “this pussy is all yours” ????

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[-] rossiFan 8 Points 4 months ago

Her boyfriend for sure never did that, but OP did.

[-] MakeMenGreatAgain44 7 Points 4 months ago

Cause she's a saint. Omg next thing it's cry rape

[-] GL_QUAD 9 Points 4 months ago

People will go as far as to kill others, if their ego is on the line.

It just happens that for women, the way to their ego is through social loss / public humuliation. Rape be damned, the real sentiment here is: "you devaluated me [in the public eye]."

[-] MakeMenGreatAgain44 4 Points 4 months ago

I would argue that even men can be threatened by social loss and humiliation. But men's egos are threatened more by direct confrontation.

[-] largepaycheckaddict 1 Point 4 months ago

That’s the type of bitch who does ATM for chad lol.

[-] TonytheNetworker 267 Points 4 months ago

LMAOOO.

Girl: What are we doing

OP: We're just hanging out.

Girl: Promise?

OP: Yes.

That chick knew damn well that OP was gonna go balls deep in dat ass but I'm sure she'll justify her behavior as "We just hung out and were getting comfortable and then one thing led to another...." Poor boyfriend, heh, I'm sure that's not the only time she's cheated on him.

[-] anonylaw2 99 Points 4 months ago

I wish there were more guys that would let the boyfriend know save him and show him this place. Similar to that guy who taped a note underneath the toilet seat. That shit was great.

[-] Drumcode-Equals-Life 40 Points 4 months ago

Most blue pill boyfriends don’t want to know, their own hamster will go into overdrive because they can’t imagine their perfect little princess getting boned in the ass by some other dude

[-] dingleburry_joe 2 Points 4 months ago

See this is why I just dgaf in ltr. It’s just my turn and it’s bound to end. If they cheat they cheat. There’s not a god damn thing I can do so Focus on self and getting laid. When he tap dries move on.

[-] TonytheNetworker 38 Points 4 months ago

Similar to that guy who taped a note underneath the toilet seat. That shit was great.

Wait, what? Do you have a link or something, I want to know more!

[-] anonylaw2 126 Points 4 months ago

No I don't have a screenshot of it but the story goes guy hooks up with a chick a a bar or through an app. They go back to her place and starts seeing pictures of her with another guy. He asks about the guy. I don't know her response but it was something that didn't stop him from fucking her. They fucked but he felt a little remorseful. So the guy writes a note telling the dude in the photos they slept together and he should dump her. He needed a place to stash the note so only the guy would see as the girl would have tossed it. His solution was taping it under the toilet seat. Cause what woman lifts the seat. I think the whole issue moved into Facebook where a few memes were made. Sorry I don't have it now but I'm sure someone else can.

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[-] askmrcia 21 Points 4 months ago

Honestly you should already know if this chick would do something like this. It's not fuckin rocket science to read the red flags.

And if you can't see the red flags, turf realize that most women in modern dating culture is doing something like this.

I bet this wasn't the first time

[-] dingman58 1 Point 4 months ago

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink

[-] Drumcode-Equals-Life 22 Points 4 months ago

Paper trail of plausible deniability that way when her BF inevitably asks her about what happened, she’ll just have him read the texts and say they just “hung out”

[-] Goldenhead17 32 Points 4 months ago

Man the BF that reads that text thread and believes that shit is so deep in the ass of a blue pill he’s become a smurf

[-] Noogisms 2 Points 4 months ago

Yet there's a chance it might work know most females, ever.

[-] sadshark 4 Points 4 months ago

Sure, cause you only hang out at 2 AM with a dude on a saturday night.

That boyfriend needs to be on the next level of naivety to believe that shit.

[-] Drumcode-Equals-Life 3 Points 4 months ago

You’d be surprised, not everyone is as unplugged from the matrix of feminist bullshit as us

[-] BuckNekkid18 13 Points 4 months ago

"No, no you don't understand! It was a one time passion type of thing. What we have is true love!"

[-] Disobedient_Citizen1 2 Points 4 months ago

An ex gf i busted flirting with a guy she works with gave me the excuse that it was only lust that she celt for him but she loves me. I still chuckle thinking about it.

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[-] atticusfinch1973 217 Points 4 months ago

I'm willing to bet she told at least two of her friends too. And of course she "didn't even know what happened".

Make sure to save those texts asking you to fuck her again.

[-] HumanSockPuppet 85 Points 4 months ago

I'm willing to bet she told at least two of her friends too. And of course she "didn't even know what happened".

Make sure to save those texts asking you to fuck her again.

This.

There are apps available that will back up your texts to your email. Use one.

[-] sadshark 10 Points 4 months ago

Are they legally binding? Can you use them in court as evidence if it comes to that? As far as I know screenshots cant be used since they can be faked, maybe this is different.

Either way, if the bitch is crazy she can still say that she wanted to fuck over texts but when she got there she didnt want it anymore but he raped her anyway. So, texts are useless.

I think the fullproof solution is to get a few hidden cameras in your place with audio and record everything, even the sex, then keep it secure and never show it to anyone ever. If it ever comes to allegations you have a bulletproof alibi and evidence.

I dont live in US, but if I were I would definitely do this with the amount of crazy and feminists you have over there.

[-] officerkondo 14 Points 4 months ago

Are they legally binding?

The question you want to ask is, "are they admissible?"

As far as I know screenshots cant be used since they can be faked, maybe this is different.

Do you wonder why photographs can be used as evidence even though Photoshop exists?

I think the fullproof solution is to get a few hidden cameras in your place with audio and record everything, even the sex, then keep it secure and never show it to anyone ever. If it ever comes to allegations you have a bulletproof alibi and evidence.

In a number of US states, those recordings would be inadmissible evidence if the woman did not know she was being recorded.

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Even if they're inadmissable, you could spread them around publicly outside of court and everyone would know she's lying. That alone might be enough to get her to drop the charges.

[-] officerkondo 2 Points 4 months ago

If they're inadmissible, that's usually because it is unlawful to make the recording in the first place.

Care to rethink your cool plan?

[-] MrSobe 1 Point 4 months ago

Some states allow recording as long as one party is aware of it. Meaning you are allowed to record interactions involving yourself. Just make sure you check the state law.

[-] officerkondo 2 Points 4 months ago

Yes, and this is also the federal standard if memory serves.

[-] slacker142 1 Point 4 months ago

Hmm take a rape charge or a charge for unlawful recording. Seems like a hard choice...

[-] officerkondo 1 Point 4 months ago

If the recordings are not admissible evidence, what is your plan to use them to escape a rape charge?

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Would you rather get charged with rape or unlawful recording?

[-] officerkondo 2 Points 4 months ago

Why not both?

My comments are informed by years of practicing law. Yours?

[-] RemyPrice 2 Points 4 months ago

You’re awfully righteous.

And you make our profession look bad in the process.

[-] officerkondo 1 Point 4 months ago

You’re awfully righteous.

I agree - thank you for your compliment!

[-] kinosavy 1 Point 4 months ago

If I'm not mistaken, that's Facebook Messenger. Those texts stay for ever.

[-] NomBok -1 Point 4 months ago

This is one of the reasons I like to use iPhone over android. iMessage texts can be stored in the cloud and backed up forever. And most girls do you use iphones.

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[-] DrasticGoDown 1 Point 4 months ago

If she's as hardcore a feminist as OP says, she'll play it off as expressing her womanly power and call it a "liberating experience" or some bullshit like that.

[-] punchyson 137 Points 4 months ago

Something I am still wrapping my head around is that playful rejection is so damn effective.

You could almost say that by not giving a girl everything she wants, she gives you her pussy in exchange. It still baffles me, but there it is.

[-] karmalizing 71 Points 4 months ago

In guy terms, she is qualifying herself to get hired at a better job.

He proved he was a better job, she worked to get that job.

If the job just gave her everything right away with no challenge, maybe the job wasn't so good in the first place.

[-] good_guy_submitter 7 Points 4 months ago

I for one would love a job that did this. But then again I'm used to working my ass off and rejection and I would be very suspicious of this job.

[-] Viking_RnP 24 Points 4 months ago

If you can get something for nothing, why pay?

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[-] 615bachelor 92 Points 4 months ago

Every man should be pumping and dumping. Fuck ltrs. They only way I see myself in a ltr is if i move to a third world country and STAY THERE. The western world is fucked

[-] reddick1 76 Points 4 months ago

AWALT

Women are the same around the world. Moving to a poor country elevates your status above the locals simply because you have more money than other guys around there. It gives you the false impression that women are better there, but it's only because you became the new alpha of the town. If she can find someone better she will still branch swing. Or worse you are just used as a portable ATM.

Yes there are less feminists in some countries but female brains are wired the same way around the world. Do you think girls don't cheat in third world countries?

[-] rafabsb 35 Points 4 months ago

Things here in Brazil are 90% similar, buddy.

[-] positivecrystal 14 Points 4 months ago

Brazil ? ew how about Venezuela ????

[-] Speedracer1111 2 Points 4 months ago

Interesting you mention that. Heard an interview with a 74 year old Venezuelan singer.

He has 24 children, but only 9 legitimate ones that he pays for. That means he has 15 kids some other guy is paying for and those are the ones he knows of!

When asked what he misses the most not living in Venezuela? The women.

[-] 615bachelor 9 Points 4 months ago

Who said anything about Brazil? I’m pretty sure there are other countries.

[-] [deleted] 25 Points 4 months ago

You said 3rd world country. Brazil is pretty much a 3rd world country outside of a few cities.

[-] clausternn 4 Points 4 months ago

I wish. It hasn't been easy for me to join in on this whole culture of pumping and dumping.

[-] NegaoDaPaixao 3 Points 4 months ago

Não esperava achar outro BR aqui kkkk

But yeah, unfortunately almost every big city has been westernized, with all the feminist shitstorm that follows it

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[-] awoke11 21 Points 4 months ago

Its always a risk to be in an LTR. Either you take the risk or not. TRP makes it less likely for her to cheat etc but it can still happen

[-] VoxVirilis 16 Points 4 months ago

You're either the guy she's cheating on, or the guy she's cheating with.

Be the guy she's cheating with.

[-] fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck- 9 Points 4 months ago

This. Might as well reap the sexual benefits. The rest of her is a lie.

[-] IvanASO 13 Points 4 months ago

Hahahahahah bro it is the same all around the world!

[-] the-dan-man 6 Points 4 months ago

He means secluded isolated areas. Like rural Africa or Asia or something i think. Basically places not touched by Capitalism and globalisation and the popular ideas yet.

[-] slacker142 1 Point 4 months ago

They also haven't discovered civility and in many parts of Africa you will get your head cut off for being in the wrong tribe. I think I'll pass.

[-] Aktiv8r 12 Points 4 months ago

True, especially when we have dudes that claim to be libertarian socialists. Like wtf does that even mean. They are complete opposites, hah.

[-] mattizie 5 Points 4 months ago

Yup, just as bad as this

Libertarian socialist:

Where you can be free to simply do your own thing, but the socialist government will provide welfare and everything else for the people anyway by simply printing more money.

[-] NeedingAdvice86 3 Points 4 months ago

That means he is a young shit without much actual real world experience but easily believes the shit put forth by university diversity professors.

Everybody deserves free shit paid for by OTHER PEOPLE's work and money.

[-] slacker142 2 Points 4 months ago

Actually if you read a fucking book on political theory you would know that Libertarian has a completely different meaning in the US than in the rest of the world. Libertarian Socialist is a totally coherent ideology.

[-] NeedingAdvice86 1 Point 4 months ago

Dude.....I have BA in Economics along with Finance and a minor in History

I think I likely understand well enough.....bahahahahaha, thanks for the concern with your book on political theory.

[-] slacker142 1 Point 4 months ago

Lol wow what a hardcore degree bro Economics and finance?? whooaaaa you must be so smart lmao

[-] NeedingAdvice86 1 Point 4 months ago

You got pawned...I know it hurts but good luck with your liberation socialism and your one article on its wonders....bahahhahahaahhahahaha, surely it will work this time with the right people in charge and called by another name.

Evidence says that it will go to shit like the other 1000x attempts because there are basic environmental and psychological reasons why it has to go to shit but you keep on believing until experience kicks you in the butt with the reality of its inherent problems.

[-] slacker142 1 Point 4 months ago

Libertarian has a very different definition than what is used in the US. Maybe you should read a fuckin book or something you idiot.

[-] tee0005 9 Points 4 months ago

I'm in 3rd world and no chance of peace and quiet here. You show a girl car keys and she'll sleep with you.

[-] HerefortheTuna 9 Points 4 months ago

Eh idk I like to pump and dump for a bit but that gets old. LTRs can be fun (esp in mid-late 20s). Get to meet new people and new experiences through your partners social circle. I know I can go back to spinning plates if I want to (and my girl knows this too)

[-] CasaDeFranco 2 Points 4 months ago

The inherent truth of women and men speak all languages.

[-] Victor1stofhisname 1 Point 4 months ago

Women are pretty much the same everywhere, bud. Speaking as a third world inhabitant.

[-] hickcock45 -9 Point 4 months ago

Every man should be pumping and dumping. Fuck ltrs. They only way I see myself in a ltr is if i move to a third world country and STAY THERE. The western world is fucked

Because of men like you. Coward.

[-] 0kool74 1 Point 4 months ago

And today's blue pill award for being a white knight beta white knight bitch ass mangina faggot goes to this guy!

[-] Rudeyyyy 89 Points 4 months ago

“Just hanging out.”

“Promise?”

Oh god I love it LOL.

“Babe we were just hanging out and idk what happened I just remember my butt feeling kind of full.”

[-] 0kool74 8 Points 4 months ago

“Babe we were just hanging out and idk what happened I just remember my butt feeling kind of full.”

Best comment on the thread!

[-] ajoeviola 79 Points 4 months ago

Please explain to me what a libertarian socialist is. last time I checked, libertarian and socialist were contradictions of each other.

A libertarian is all for a free capitalist market, individual freedom/rights, and little government interference in the market and our lives.

While a socialist is for government ownership over business (not free market) and redistribution of wealth through taxation (libertarians despise taxes).

I don’t see how they could go hand and hand?

[-] JustinG13 38 Points 4 months ago

I came here for this comment

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I asked him to clarify his views. Read OP's reply to my question further down. He is a straight up communist.

It seems to me the most "natural" society is one where the means of production are commonly owned and operated for the benefit of the community, and I think the anthropological evidence bears this out.

[-] JustinG13 6 Points 4 months ago

I don’t understand how people can rationalize this, especially on a forum where rational thinking is supposed to triumph.

Pictures related.

https://goo.gl/images/kFL26k

https://goo.gl/images/APkKo5

Edit: I love your response to his explanation.

[-] [deleted] 10 Points 4 months ago

His reply to you is hilarious too. He advocates jointly owned property but that's not communism because Marx kicked some guy out of his group 150 years ago. He also advocates rolling back "the state." I'm not sure who is going to manage all this jointly owned property without a "state." I guess "the community" is the answer. But wait don't communities need some sort of leadership organization to coordinate their activities and keep order? Might you call this organization "the state?" Difficult to believe that someone could have such child-like views.

[-] foxhound525 0 Points 4 months ago

That sounds more like anarchy than socialism

[-] GodOfDinosaurs -3 Point 4 months ago

The libertarian socialist tradition is rich and traces its legacy all the way to Bakhunin (and maybe earlier) before he was kicked out of the First International by Marx and his supporters. Again, if anyone wants to talk about actual ideas, we can do that either through message or another forum. The emotional “OMG communism” response is all I’ve seen so far.

[-] Walkebe 6 Points 4 months ago

Asking us to go to another forum (we both know no one is likely to take you up on that offer due to the effort) or chat in private (same) to avoid a political discussion right here in the open where everyone can see what is said strikes me as being a classic avoidance technique, and one that displays weakness.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs -2 Point 4 months ago

I mean we can do it here but 1) it's off topic and 2) I'm answering the same question about 30 times.

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[-] NeedingAdvice86 5 Points 4 months ago

Once I read that...I realized we were with an imbecile and stop listening to his advice or interpretation of what happened with the girl.

[-] officerkondo 26 Points 4 months ago

It's just like being a carnivorous vegan. It's uniquely American!

[-] NeoDoji 17 Points 4 months ago

OP and thot probably went to an antifa rally afterwards

[-] [deleted] 10 Points 4 months ago

Where they called their political enemies fascists as they used force to silence their speech.

[-] thedaynos 2 Points 4 months ago

and they texted on their iphone X about how they hate capitalism

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[-] afkb39sdfb 12 Points 4 months ago

According to Wikipedia:

Libertarian socialism (or socialist libertarianism)[1] is a group of anti-authoritarian[2] political philosophies inside the socialist movement that rejects the conception of socialism as centralized state ownership and control of the economy.[3]

So... not socialism...?

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 10 Points 4 months ago

The type of libertarian you describe is uniquely American. Historically, and still today in Europe, libertarian means both anti-statist and anti-corporate. Libertarian socialists argue that concentrated corporate power is just as antithetical to freedom as concentrated state power. All such institutions must perpetually justify themselves or be dismantled.

[-] officerkondo 22 Points 4 months ago

libertarian means...anti-corporate

Please explain why you think this.

All such institutions must perpetually justify themselves or be dismantled.

A corporation is other people's private property. Can you please explain the theory of libertarianism where one person has to justify their private property to others lest those dissatisfied others take it by force? How does that square with the NAP?

[-] zevfern -4 Point 4 months ago

The first thing applies to the socialist part of libertarian socialist.

[-] officerkondo 5 Points 4 months ago

Your comment is as incomprehensible as the notion of "libertarian socialist".

[-] james3374 -2 Point 4 months ago

You don't really want an answer to your question, or you would have read his other posts or researched it online already.

Damn, I hate when anti-intellectuals start arguing without really wanting facts.

[-] officerkondo 0 Points 4 months ago

researched it online already.

Fuck this noise. If someone asserts a proposition, it is upon them to defend it. It is not my burden to "research". The fact that I am sufficiently literate in libertarian philosophy is the predicate to my challenge in the first place, you bell end.

Since you bravely spoke up, now is your time to shine and explain the theory of libertarianism where one person has to justify their private property to others lest those dissatisfied others take it by force.

Damn, I hate when anti-intellectuals start arguing without really wanting facts.

No one cares about your feelings.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 2 Points 4 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution_of_1936

For starters

[-] officerkondo 2 Points 4 months ago

A hyperlink is not an argument. Right now, explain the theory of libertarianism where one person has to justify their private property to others lest those dissatisfied others take it by force. That means you tell me how you think it works. Not copypasta, not a hyperlink.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 0 Points 4 months ago

Everybody is in favor of the maintenance of personal property. By private property in this context I suppose you mean capital. Our fundamental disagreement, then, is how ownership of capital ought to be understood. Libertarian socialists believe capital ought to be owned and operated socially, as was done for a few years by the Spanish anarchists in almost the entire country before they were crushed by the government.

You are advocating that private capital be protected by state power. Unless you take the AnCap line, which I think is just a non-sequitur because capitalism would fail without the state to enforce it.

[-] james3374 1 Point 4 months ago

Way to maintain frame, weirdo.

I'm done with you.

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I still fail to see what this has to do with socialism. You sound like a free market capitalist who is weary of overly-concentrated power and wealth, a problem many mainstream conservatives are starting to wake up to now that they see the powerful tech monopolies starting to use their power against them. Socialism means redistributing wealth and/or government control of the means of production.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs -10 Point 4 months ago

This is probably because today we usually conceive of capitalism as a fact of nature rather than a creation of the state. The libertarian socialist response would be that modern capitalism is only possible due to the enforcement of state power on behalf of the capitalist against the working class. This manifests in protection of private capital, oppression of labor movements, bailouts for the capitalists when capitalism fails (as during a crash), etc.

To me, anarcho-capitalism is simply nonsensical because of the degree to which capitalism depends on the state. I like the values of American libertarianism, but I don't see how it ends in anything other than a corporatocracy enforced by a police state. This leaves me skeptical of all forms of concentrated power, including private power. It seems to me the most "natural" society is one where the means of production are commonly owned and operated for the benefit of the community, and I think the anthropological evidence bears this out. Of course, this is only possible if both the state and private power are rolled back.

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It seems to me the most "natural" society is one where the means of production are commonly owned and operated for the benefit of the community, and I think the anthropological evidence bears this out.

This is pure communism. You support a political movement which seeks make us slaves to the state, and thus you are my personal enemy. Get lost you scum.

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[-] GodOfDinosaurs -1 Point 4 months ago

You support a political movement which seeks to make us slaves to the state

I don’t know where you are getting this from. I’m literally advocating for the dismantling of the state. If you have an argument, I’m all ears. This is getting far off topic for my post though so we could do this either over message or a different public forum.

[-] Immuchtooawesome 3 Points 4 months ago

If you are dismantling the state, what stops the man (or group) with the biggest guns from seizing the means of production? NAP?

Seems like the same group that seize the means of production for the commune could also force you to work or be killed.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 1 Point 4 months ago

The NAP is mostly associated with American libertarianism. A good example of what a libertarian socialist movement might look like is the Spanish revolution near the beginning of the Spanish civil war in the 1930s. The Spanish workers actually established worker collectives, community agriculture, and worker-run factories in many parts of the country for a few years before they were crushed again by the government.

[-] jefferson_ 0 Points 4 months ago

I get it, man. Being anything left of Trump cronies on this sub = OMGCOMMUNISTFUCKYOUREBELSCUM.

For a sub that tries to encourage honest discussion, it's actually kind of funny.

[-] alclarkey 6 Points 4 months ago

Someone doesn't understand capitalism. There is no "capitalist" class. Every single person in a capitalist country is a capitalist. They may not be very successful ones, but they are still capitalists. And free association does indeed lead to corporations. Corporations are voluntary agreements between many different parties to work for the benefit of the corporation and their own pocketbooks. The problems come when established corporations see competition and seek to squash that competition through backdoor deals with politicians to make starting up a new business nearly impossible through impossible licensing restrictions (1 million dollar taxi medallions for example, and other burdensome regulation that the established corporations have the money to deal with, or they are simply excluded from those requirements (IE GE paying no taxes).

The solution then, is to find the asshats who are doing this shit, and throw their sorry asses into prison, and not no white collar prison, throw em right in there with the rapists and murderers.

But dickheads like Bernie Sanders think the solution is to go with the Nuclear option, take all the wealth and redistribute it, and fuck over millions of families who had nothing to with the corporate/political corruption, but will certainly feel it hard in their wallets.

Because socialism doesn't just fuck the rich, it fucks the middle class too. Everyone is equal under socialism, equally poor, and equally ready to put a bullet in their skull.

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[-] GodOfDinosaurs 0 Points 4 months ago

The distinction I’m drawing is between owners of capital (equity holders) and the working class (wage earners). The libertarian socialist criticism is that concentrated private power will always have outsize influence on state power. So yes, it would be ideal if we just threw all the corrupt white-collar criminals in jail. But this is a fantasy. Those with power write the rules and enforce them, so why would they punish themselves?

Again, I don’t think this thread is the place for a full discussion of this topic. We should do this over message or another public forum if you’re interested.

[-] alclarkey 4 Points 4 months ago

Maybe later, I think I'm more interested in a cheeseburger and a couple hours of Ark ATM.

[-] TrillnusTorvalds 1 Point 4 months ago

You've literally got it fucking backwards.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 0 Points 4 months ago

The TRP crowd is hyper-reactionary so I didn't expect much critical thinking on this. Almost didn't include it in the post, but some people took a real interest.

[-] VoxVirilis 4 Points 4 months ago

TIL I'm more of a European libertarian. I'm radically supportive of the free market, but only for living and breathing, flesh-and-blood, human beings. I've come to view corporations as just another form of government interference in the marketplace. Corporations only exist so long as there is a state nearby that says: "write these words down in a certain way and, voila! A corporation is born!"

[-] alclarkey 7 Points 4 months ago

It's called a contract. People make those all the time, a corporation is simply a large group of people who have all agreed to work together toward the same goal.

Now someone at some point in time decided that there should be a separate entity called "corporation" and we can tax that too, which is like taxing every single person at that corporation an extra 12.5% on top of the other taxes they already pay.

So no, as far the political/legal entity called corporation goes, that should go away.

[-] [deleted] 7 Points 4 months ago

I see. And what alternative structure do you propose that will allow businesses to raise the capital that they need from thousands of different investors?

Corporations only exist so long as there is a state nearby that says: "write these words down in a certain way and, voila! A corporation is born!"

Murder is only a crime so long as there is a state nearby that says "write these words down in a certain way and, voila! A crime is born!"

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[-] Moz4 5 Points 4 months ago

It is definitely a thing. Google it for yourself.

[-] ajoeviola 7 Points 4 months ago

Just looked it up. It’s interesting to say the least.

[-] alclarkey -2 Point 4 months ago

Sure there are braindead people who can believe they are such a thing, just like there are people who believe they are cats trapped in a human body. Libertarian Socialist is an oxymoron.

[-] WingManThunder 1 Point 4 months ago

Redistribution of some dudes bitch I guess

[-] Redpillswole 1 Point 4 months ago

While a socialist is for government ownership over business (not free market) and redistribution of wealth through taxation (libertarians despise taxes).

That's not what socialism is. Thats just basic welfare liberalism nowadays. Socialism is an anti government libertarian ideology basically.

A libertarian is all for a free capitalist market, individual freedom/rights, and little government interference in the market and our lives

Oxymoron, a "free market" leads to businesses buying government interference to protect private property and business rights. Government is required to protect private property which requires a bit more than little government.

The original libertarians were socialists not ancaps

[-] Random_Throwaway_001 1 Point 4 months ago

Closest I can think of is a libertarian that would involve himself in a voluntary socialist community.

[-] trashbort 0 Points 4 months ago

Herrenvolk socialism -- the idea of libertarianism comes about as a response to a change in the balance of positive and negative liberties in the Civil Rights era. Thus you have people who are libertarian with respect to freeze peach and freedom of association, but also perfectly fine with state interventions into the economy, as long as these interventions don't upset the social order of white supremacy.

[-] Bamb0oM 79 Points 4 months ago

I have discovered that some girls think that its not cheating when they take it in the ass. I think the same applies to her mentality?

[-] okuli 69 Points 4 months ago

One girl once told me that she never cheated in relationship. I called her out on that because she gave me a blowjob when she had a boyfriend. She told me that blowjob doesn't count. The only reason we didn't fuck then is because we didn't have condoms. It was late night and we couldn't find where to buy them.

[-] [deleted] 30 Points 4 months ago

Gas stations always sell condoms

[-] okuli 44 Points 4 months ago

It was in Budapest at 1am 15 years ago. We really wanted to fuck and still couldn't find condoms.

[-] BoughtenCockloft 6 Points 4 months ago

Should have fucked her anyway.

[-] CasaDeFranco 85 Points 4 months ago

Fucking a slut without protection is pretty unwise.

[-] BoughtenCockloft -9 Point 4 months ago

Taking a shower in a raincoat is pretty pointless.

[-] Twentyfivedeep 21 Points 4 months ago

Syphilis is making a comeback and gonorrhoea is becoming increasingly resistant to treatment, let us know how that works out for you.

[-] okuli 4 Points 4 months ago

After few days she called me and said that she wants to be with me. She dumped her BF and became my LTR for next two years. So I did fucked her.

[-] TibetanWisdom 23 Points 4 months ago

why would you LTR that type of girl

[-] TonytheNetworker 4 Points 4 months ago

Wait, you LTR'ed a girl who you knew was a proven cheater?!

Micdrop

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[-] MisterRoid 13 Points 4 months ago

Condom sex counts even less than a blowjob, though.

[-] Disobedient_Citizen1 1 Point 4 months ago

Theres an entire porn genre based on condom sex being a free pass

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[-] mchief101 4 Points 4 months ago

I had a fwb of 7 months who told me she wanted to stop sex (started in july) because she found a potential boyfriend. She said she would still come over my house and give me handjobs and blowjobs. She is currently out of the country and iv been reading tons of helpful redpill posts. Currently i am in no contact cause she is out of the country. Do you guys think i’ll still be able to fuck her even if she has a BF? During our fwb period, iv fucked her at least 30 times with many handjobs and sleep overs / cuddling as well.

[-] okuli 21 Points 4 months ago

Don't listen what she says. If she's coming over to give a BJ, she's definitely DTF. Start rubbing her with your hand and she will beg you to fuck her.

[-] oldfred1 1 Point 4 months ago

My wife belongs to that school of thought and quotes Clinton that blow jobs are not sex

[-] buttgoogler 74 Points 4 months ago

"Promise?" Hell fucking yes I promise. We all know those thots are never ready to take responsibilities, so let it just be "and then it just happened".

[-] imtheoneimmortal 24 Points 4 months ago

but he says we just hanging out

[-] VillagersUnite 73 Points 4 months ago

A part of me hopes that the boyfriend is also pumping and dumping old classmates from school. But well what are the chances of that. Good post.

[-] salinorum 51 Points 4 months ago

I’m high on acid. There is no more god damn grace existing anywhere, anymore. Isn’t that right op?

[-] the_Milkweed 70 Points 4 months ago

Dont go online while on acid, first mistake

[-] GarytheGreat123 8 Points 4 months ago

In the Western World it seems rarer and rarer

[-] salinorum 64 Points 4 months ago

Yeah humorous. TRP is fairly toxic in some ways in that it encourages we cheat a fellow male brethren behind his back like OP. And then wonder why the moral fabric of the society is ripping apart. Ahem ahem. Jesus it’s fucking pathetic. What trp lacks and utterly needs is a spiritual element. At this point, it just a bunch of fucking undisciplined baboons trying to get their nut.

[-] karmalizing 11 Points 4 months ago

Not everyone believes we are all "brothers" or on the same team.

LSD is specifically well-known for tricking people into believing this.

[-] salinorum 27 Points 4 months ago

Yeah I get that man. Its a cold world, we all gotta struggle to get our own. But, we are also the potential gateways for characteristics of a higher beauty. Its up to you what you choose to be and no one escapes leaving a legacy...

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[-] TRIPITIS 8 Points 4 months ago

Either you're taking, or getting taken. Unless TRP had a universally followed spiritual law that says thou shall not bang the hoe of another bro, it's pointless to pretend to have any moral high road. That said, nothing wrong with having your own morals and principles. AWALT, however, does exist for a reason, so while you might be riding the moral high road, your chick might be riding another dick. Anyway, just philosophical. Have a good trip man.

[-] Jonathan4tw 5 Points 4 months ago

OP is the catalyst to awaken the poor BP boyfriend. Sometimes you might not like the things that need to be done. If you take a look at the grand picture, OP is actually doing BP beta a favor in terms of time he will waste on that hamster.

[-] Luckylancer96 6 Points 4 months ago

Good guy OP. If you have poor beta brother/cousin/father/friend send their girls to OP so they can awaken.

[-] Luftiwaffe 3 Points 4 months ago

I agree. We got a powerful magic in our hands. but we need some ethics not to hurt innocents

[-] foxhound525 1 Point 4 months ago

No need for spirituality, what our brothers need is a sense of honour. Honour is derived from discipline so it should be a natural fit, but it seems most are content to have a dog eat dog attitude.

[-] moltenw 0 Points 4 months ago

I get what you are saying, but understand this - If she wants to cheat, she will WITH or WITHOUT you. We are also not the ones making the final choice of "cheating" , she is.

No matter how many redpill bros "unite" and not fuck women who have boyfriends, there will be some other shmucks who'll take your place.

The problem isn't our doings, but the way society has enabled women to act. That my friend, is a problem we are not capable of solving even with all our combined sources.

[-] plaaya 3 Points 4 months ago

You should check out funny stuff on YouTube or nature videos those earth documentaries are dope

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[-] imploredpill 43 Points 4 months ago

Stop the LTR hate. Stories like this almost always involve a beta bitch boyfriend. You can maintain a healthy LTR if you're a high value man with firm boundaries. Understand her hypergamous nature and learn to keep it in check. Redpill-aware men rarely get cheated on and it's not because there's no other alphas around to cheat with, it's because we know what the fuck we're doing. Spinning plates isn't the only end goal, study LTR game if that's what makes you happy.

[-] Leoada 14 Points 4 months ago

How/ where do you study LTR game?

[-] Ahanaroi 1 Point 4 months ago

Listen to the Black Philip Show.

[-] Speedracer1111 1 Point 4 months ago

MRP (married red pill) & askMRP.

If you use that as a foundation for an LTR, you will be better than half the guys over there that were drunken captains for 5 years and let their wives walk over them. Those guys have year(s) to fix their marriage if it's even possible.

[-] Luckylancer96 3 Points 4 months ago

I am waiting for "cucked alpha story". And it should not be "cucked 'once an alpha' story". Untill that, this comment makes sense.

[-] GuruDev1000 2 Points 4 months ago

The post by RedPope a couple years back about wet/dirty sheets is the cucked alpha story you are looking for.

Link: https://archive.is/nir0S

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[-] RokSr 2 Points 4 months ago

There is to much of a circle jerk for people to accept that in this sub and there are to many incells to accept that in MGTOW. The thing I’ve noticed is a lot of members won’t accept that because they haven’t been able to cope with past breakups/pain. I believe this is a stepping stone here once they deal with their inside pain to move on and grow.

[-] Jackpot807 1 Point 4 months ago

This give me too much hope, what's the catch

[-] roberthenri 1 Point 4 months ago

Worth it for that sweet LTR porn sex.

[-] askmrcia 42 Points 4 months ago

She says she'll kill me if I tell anyone.

Lol then tells one of the more popular sub reddits.

Yea this is so common now a days that I didn't even find this surprising.

Usually it's after the hookup we find out they are in a ltr. She told you before you guys hooked up, but again this is pretty common regardless.

So why do you guys want ltrs again?

[-] TonytheNetworker 1 Point 4 months ago

So why do you guys want ltrs again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRS_PpOrUZ4

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[-] omega_dawg93 40 Points 4 months ago

ok guys... sit down and relax. this is a classic example of a girl who wanted to fuck someone who didn't kiss her ass. not a big deal imo... happens all the time.

the important take from it is that she will move on and in HER MIND, this event, "didn't count."

one of the hardest things a man has to grasp about women is that they can fuck, suck, & take it up the ass like she did... but if her emotions were not in it, and if she sees the guy as the 'fuck him but not marry him' category, she WILL & CAN block this event from her reality.

this happened to her LTR boyfriend, and it can (and likely will) happen to you too; you will never know about it.

"it didn't count," is real. as men, life is real... we live in the real world, but this does NOT apply to women. when they give you a sexual partner number, this is EXACTLY why it comes across as the truth; they block-out sex that 'didn't count.' and this is EXACTLY why you must hear their number and multiply it by 3... then add 7.

to those that disagree:

a man that has a foot that is 12 inches long... wears a size 12 shoe. that's reality.

a woman that has a foot that is 10 inches long... wears a size 6 or 7 (or whatever the fuck). they can't even accept the true length of their feet (without fear of judgment) so why would you ever expect them to truly accept the number of guys they've caught cum from in life?

[-] falecf4 8 Points 4 months ago

I know a guy who was going to write a book called 'The guy that didn't count' or something of that nature.

[-] latinasonly 2 Points 4 months ago

that will be my response to " i have a boyfriend"

"if we do anything , we will say it doesnt count "

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[-] falecf4 3 Points 4 months ago

Too bad she won't let you make that distinction. It only happens after she rationalizes it after the fact.

[-] ethernetcord -4 Point 4 months ago

"This happened to her ltr and it can and likely will happen to you too"

Who gives a fuck? Why are you caring what a woman does, period, as long as she is slobbering on your cock regularly you don't need anything else from her, if she ever brought an std into your house then she's never allowed back.

[-] omega_dawg93 18 Points 4 months ago

being in a LTR means you do give a fuck. we're not talking about plates... but someone you've chosen to give your time attention and emotions to in a relationship.

calm down. some women are worth more than being used as cum sponges... your relatives might be some of them.

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Intergalactic Olympics at that wow, 11/10

[-] oytrp 56 Points 4 months ago

Just hanging out at 2AM.

whew.

[-] MakeMenGreatAgain44 -4 Point 4 months ago

There is no legal time frame for hanging out. So legally she's off the hook. Dunno about the moral part xD

[-] Tenth_10 30 Points 4 months ago

" She says she'll kill me if I tell anyone. "
*proceeds to tell everything on Reddit*

[-] BlackMwoyo 8 Points 4 months ago

This Lost my shit when boy!

[-] FunkTheFreak 26 Points 4 months ago

You should tell her poor fuck of a boyfriend. You have the screenshots of her text messages. Do the guy a favor. This sorry excuse of a girlfriend doesn’t deserve anyone’s love, time, or effort. Just a good fuckin’.

Edit: A word.

[-] WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey 32 Points 4 months ago

That's how OP ends up with rape allegations/charges. I see what you're saying but it's not worth the personal risk.

[-] JustChopItOff 16 Points 4 months ago

This whole story seems like a rape accusation risk to me.

She WILL tell some "close friends" and word can get out if their social circles ever overlap. The whole purpose of her "promise?" text is plausible deniability.

If she gets caught for cheating she can easily defer responsibility to:

  1. I was drunk.
  2. He gave me more drinks.
  3. He was a friend. I trusted him.
  4. Look at this text. I had no intention of having sex that night and he tricked me.

OP should have ignored her. Not for some moral bullshit reasons but for his own safety. She's obviously fucked in the head and that can come back to bite him for....a nut in the ass.

This FR is an interesting read. But by no means is it a roadmap anyone should be using.

[-] Luckylancer96 1 Point 4 months ago

Asking out of curiosity, what happens when you have post-sex massage that "it was good"? Can they still charge you with rape if you show the evidence?

[-] WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey 1 Point 4 months ago

All it needs is an accusation to ruin your life. Like lose your job and spit on in public ruin. The actual facts don't currently seem to matter.

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[-] Charrington84 2 Points 4 months ago

“This type of thing has been going on forever. It is nothing new. Why do you think cultures in the middle east are so protective of their women? They know better than to trust them. In our culture in the west we have a different take on it.”

Gosh, it’s almost like the patriarchs of old were onto something. It’s almost like perhaps, just maybe, in some ways (not all), middle eastern societies got things right and continue to get things right by suppressing women. It’s almost like we in the West are on the wrong side of the fight.

It’s almost like we are cutting our own balls off in the culture war that is being waged, (and regardless of what your porn riddled, weed hazed, mass social media drunken brain may want to believe, there is indeed a war being waged), and ultimately we will be on the wrong side of the fight.

This society, this recklessly hedonistic culture is not sustainable.

Rest assured, balance will be restored.

[-] latinasonly 1 Point 4 months ago

" Why do you think, "I have a boyfriend" is the most used shit test/rejection? Because it weeds out the guys who are too weak to break through it, the blue pilled, and the guys that do break through it won't care that she has a boyfriend. And if they don't care they won't snitch. "

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This will happen all the time. I chat with a girl and she is clearly interested. I ask a girl for her number and she says " I have a boyfriend" I respond with some remark like " its all good we won't tell him" . the girl laughs and says " i'm not like that" ,etc. after this kind of thing comes up I have pretty much given up, because 1. i dont want to seem desperate. 2. i dont want to get in trouble 3. abundance menatality

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so your saying all I have to do is ask for her number again after showing I am undaunted by this supposed boyfriend. should I just treat her resistance (if she is flirty and with a not serious tone of voice) to giving me her number as token resistance ?

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[-] nebder 5 Points 4 months ago

Other guy is doing me a favor. He takes care of all the bs I don’t wanna deal with. I get the good stuff. Why bite the hand that feeds you.

Don’t be other guy

[-] Pezotecom 5 Points 4 months ago

The best favor he can ever give to that dude is letting him realize by himself what's going on.

[-] BurnDownTheMission68 2 Points 4 months ago

This is bro-code bullshit

Fuck the LTR dude, OP had no allegiance to him

All’s fair...

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I mean bro-code applies to my friends and acquaintances... if you fuck your buddy's gf you should probably be burned at the stake. But strangers? Lol yea right - that's open season.

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[-] MisterRoid 1 Point 4 months ago

Yeah, that sounds like a great idea... Not! How do you think he will react? Do you think he will be grateful? Most likely he will blame the man rather than his innocent princess, try to find out who it is and possibly use violence. In a worst case scenario the OP will be killed or crippled. And if the OP wins the fight, it's possible he will go to jail or suffer legal consequences anyways for injuring the boyfriend.

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[-] fahr1 0 Points 4 months ago

Just leave an anonymous note on his car with some brief details, that way it will work itself out..

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[-] [deleted] 18 Points 4 months ago

Lol. I can't understand how someone could be a TRP follower and a leftist. I don't want to undermine the "big-tent" philosophy of trying to help as many men as possible, but this just makes no sense to me.

[-] ardu- 4 Points 4 months ago

big business is just as bad as big government, if not worse.

[-] Field_Of_View 2 Points 4 months ago

But "socialism" requires big government.

[-] jefferson_ 2 Points 4 months ago

Leftist is a broad term. I still believe in and benefit from the free-market, but I still think companies should be regulated as to not gain way too much power and influence. It's really not that hard of a concept.

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[-] Ekken_ 13 Points 4 months ago

Haha I read that and thought "this is going to be a terrible FR" and then I pleasantly learned along the way. If the boyfriend confronts you OP, say "Our ass, comrade."

[-] pl0tt13 6 Points 4 months ago

If the boyfriend confronts you OP, say "Our ass, comrade."

This cracked me up ahahahhaa

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[-] U-94 20 Points 4 months ago

If a girl texts you first on a weekend night, it's done.

[-] JerryLawlerPigFace 16 Points 4 months ago

That last paragraph had me do a double take. That escalated fast.

[-] [deleted] 15 Points 4 months ago

Tbh it kinda looks like she wanted to fuck you from the get-go

[-] perdipp 16 Points 4 months ago

Tbh it kinda looks like she wanted to fuck you from the get-go

this! Women who want to fuck you will fuck you unless you absolutely push her away.
But there are also on the fence women and some are closer and some are farther. Takes some skill to reel them in but def possible.

the ones that don't find you attractive tho, good luck

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[-] JustLurkingIgnore 14 Points 4 months ago

Enjoy your #metoo regret-rape accusation when her boyfriend finds out.

[-] largepaycheckaddict 11 Points 4 months ago

Her beta bf: haha it’s cool if you wanna blow me off to hangout with your guy friend at 2am babe I’m super open minded and accepting. More time to just play my new Nintendo switch!

Then then comes home the next morning with Sex hair and kisses beta bf before brushing her teeth after rimming OPs asshole.

[-] stokeDpoke 9 Points 4 months ago

Fuck these oblivious guys, albeit not every girl is going to be like this (even though a huge chunk in my experience fall under this category). But before bothering with an LTR know who the person is and after getting into one, constantly evaluate your partner and dump her ass the moment you know where it is going to end up.

[-] fahr1 3 Points 4 months ago

Seems like this happens a lot with under 30...

[-] Edawg649 8 Points 4 months ago

you both are low key assholes

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[-] Zanford 8 Points 4 months ago

She shows up to my place, I fuck her in the ass (she loves anal, lucky me), and I send her home. She says she'll kill me if I tell anyone. Yesterday she asked me to fuck her again and I declined; too busy. Boyfriend of 3 years looks like a nice guy on FB. I wonder when they'll get married?

lmao savage and I love it. Your 'fake id' line is a great neg, and nice including the 'we're just hanging out' hamster-feed screenshot. Well played all around

most guys will be shocked by how much girls like anal if the mood and your frame (and technique and lube) are good

Also idk whether you actually believe 'libertarian socialist' is a thing, or it's just part of your game, but shit like that is a pretty good catch-all if politics comes up.

[-] mattizie 4 Points 4 months ago

but shit like that is a pretty good catch-all if politics comes up.

Only if people think he's taking a piss. If they realise that he's actually serious, well they're going to think he's an absolute retard.

"What car do you like?", "I like the Chevrolet Mustang", "Haha, nice one mate", "I'm serious, I really like that car", "you know that the mustang is a Ford, right?", "No, it's a Chevy"...

[-] Zanford 1 Point 4 months ago

"I'm libertarian socialist. That means I believe in freedom above all. And somehow at the same time the government has to micromanage everything to make sure we all have equal outcomes. So that we're free FROM having to make our own choices!"

'libertarian socialist' or 'anarcho-socialist' is basically code for 'I think that one picture if Che is really sexy and I want to sound rebellious and freethinking' or 'I think that legalizing weed is all that libertarian means'

Ofc, as far as TRP/game goes, rationally discussing politics with a prospect is dumb anyway, and most prospects just parrot the media talking point of the week, SO if a guy wants to pull some rebel poseur stuff out of your ass as part of your game, go for it. Being self-contradictory might actually make for good game b/c it makes it hard to pin you down to a specific platform or belief to argue about

[-] mattizie 1 Point 4 months ago

"I'm libertarian socialist. That means I believe in freedom above all. And somehow at the same time the government has to micromanage everything to make sure we all have equal outcomes. So that we're free FROM having to make our own choices!"

Perfect explanation.

'libertarian socialist' or 'anarcho-socialist' is basically code for 'I think that one picture if Che is really sexy and I want to sound rebellious and freethinking' or 'I think that legalizing weed is all that libertarian means'

Nailed it

Ofc, as far as TRP/game goes, rationally discussing politics with a prospect is dumb anyway, and most prospects just parrot the media talking point of the week, SO if a guy wants to pull some rebel poseur stuff out of your ass as part of your game, go for it.

I agree with you. When talking to prospective plates, don't get into your real politics. But among other men (here in TRP), people are going to call you out for it because it's kind of important. You may joke about it now, but if you get into real communism/socialism and people are digging up and boiling corpses for some kind of nourishment, or lined up against the wall to be shot for wrong-think, then it gets very serious very quickly. Some things are more important than pussy.

Being self-contradictory might actually make for good game b/c it makes it hard to pin you down to a specific platform or belief to argue about.

That's some food for thought. You may be right, but I'd argue that if they don't even know what they're talking about in the first place, they wouldn't be able to identify a belief or platform regardless of what you called yourself. Hell, they can't even explain the difference between a communist and a fascist.

[-] the1whoshrooms 8 Points 4 months ago

So hanging out = anal. Got it. I was wondering why my uncle kept asking that.

[-] colcrnch 7 Points 4 months ago

So just out of curiosity — has anyone considered the fact that it’s sexual strategy which is making it impossible to have successful LTR with women. More specifically, if guys stopped trying to pull women in LTR then there wouldn’t be guys in LTRs getting fucked over and ending up in places like this.

This will all end up badly for men and women in the long to medium run.

So much for solidarity I guess.

[-] wobbleelbbow 2 Points 4 months ago

No. This is free market. And this strategy teaches men to be more masculine and assertive in their relationships. Also known taking charge, being captains. What you proposing is betasization of men, being content with shitty women and shitty relationships.

Some women gonna cheat anyway if not with you then with a guitar player next door. It has nothing to do with men pulling chicks in LTRs. Nada.

[-] Supremedis 1 Point 4 months ago

How many women are ltr worthy in the first place?

[-] wobbleelbbow 1 Point 4 months ago

I assume it's a rhetorical question

[-] TopOccasion29 1 Point 4 months ago

Since the dawn of time it has always been like this. From ancient rome to modern times, most women are married off to men their aren't really attracted to. The difference between ancient times and now is women are free to do as they please and they open their legs to whoever. In fact, a lot of women in LTR/Marriage still prefer to be approached by men as she will take it as her still having some high SMV.

Like the gentleman above me stated..its a free market. Approaching and gaming women in LTR/Marriage is a dominant action.

[-] AggressiveMarket 7 Points 4 months ago

Good post man, but i laughed when you said you're left wing and a "libertarian socialist". Not exactly the sub I'd expect someone with those political beliefs to be on. Most leftists are fucking cucks.

[-] fahr1 2 Points 4 months ago

Agreed.. In this day and age, if you say Leftist (pick a subgenre), you literally are a cuck

[-] BrownGummyBear 1 Point 4 months ago

I mean, in 2008 I was definitely a liberal... I still think very similar to how I used to 10 years ago, yet now I think I would be classified as a “centrist “ or whatever the fuck I happen to be now according to current liberals

[-] Panamaredfish1 6 Points 4 months ago

Good story, but what the hell is a libertarian socialist? one is for minimal government and one is for maximal government.

[-] WingManThunder 6 Points 4 months ago

I quit reading once I read "libertarian socialist"

[-] Sir_Distic 1 Point 4 months ago

Why? The rest of the post is solid. It gives a nice example of push/pull and he ignores her shit tests which she can't get enough of.

Would you care to offer some more info as to why the post isn't helpful or did you just want to share your disagreement with his political choices?

[-] mbp1203 5 Points 4 months ago

Cool story, just came here to tell you that "libertarian socialist" is an oxymoron and doesn't exist....

[-] GodOfDinosaurs -2 Point 4 months ago

I responded to this in a couple other comments, but it’s also worth googling.

[-] mbp1203 2 Points 4 months ago

I'd be interested in understanding what you mean because everything I Google about it just seems either like a contradiction or simply describing regular libertarianism.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points 4 months ago

It describes a magical world wherein all property is owned by the state but somehow that state is benevolent and powerless and all the citizens live happily ever after.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 0 Points 4 months ago

It seems critical thinking goes out the window when it comes to things you have an emotional response to.

[-] riot2100 2 Points 4 months ago

I have to agree with OP here. Libertarianism is on a wide political spectrum, and unfortunately today many think politics and ideas are based around the parties themselves. This is horrifically wrong. I'd call myself a moderate Libertarian: my views encompass ideas from people like Sanders as well as Reagan. Not gonna elaborate because that would take forever, but reducing debt through devolution and reapplying it to better areas (such as equal education opportunity) is my ideal.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 2 Points 4 months ago

Thank you. I don't get why people can't understand that libertarianism has not always meant free market capitalism with limited government. Yes, that's a legitimate version of libertarianism today, but it's not the only one.

[-] riot2100 3 Points 4 months ago

This. Libertarianism is focused around individual liberty and free choice. That means things that the government has barred and regulated will now be free for people to do if they choose. However, it's subjective: it all boils down to what each person believes the government should be doing, and how to do it. That's why there is so many different kinds of libertarians. It sucks that the concept is seemingly so hard to realize. I don't hear about it too much unless I'm talking with other libertarians.

[-] throwawayhgsdoifu 1 Point 4 months ago

It isn't worth Googling, because both ideologies are diametrically opposed.

[-] sebastianconcept 4 Points 4 months ago

Okay, good story. Thanks for sharing. Quick question: for push I typically use playful-arrogance and inverting the challenge but for for pull I’m only using a passive, keep your mouth shut. Are there other techniques for pull? How you guys pull when not pushing?

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 7 Points 4 months ago

When I pull, I'm not afraid to ask her a real question or show some form of genuine interest. You have to play this carefully but it will give her a rush of 'good feelings' and get her to invest more in you. Then the next you push, it will have a greater effect because she will be chasing that feeling again. I'm no PUA but this is what works for me.

[-] sebastianconcept 3 Points 4 months ago

Oh cool, I think I’ve been doing this without realizing then... every now and then I throw a positive unrejectable comment in a girl I’m ghosting to see if a 9 plate gets interested again (I’m 3 plates beyond her, but hey...)

[-] rp_tsukaisute 4 Points 4 months ago

You promised no sex in writing. I don't know how it went after that, but imagine what could happen if the b/f caught her? Or if at any time in the future she decides (trustworthy woman that she obviously is) that she wants to blackmail you.

You're taking a lot of risk.

> Yesterday she asked me to fuck her again and I declined; too busy

In writing? Excellent. & Lucky.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 9 Points 4 months ago

I suppose it was risky at the time but now I have a text that reads "come fuck me?" from yesterday so I should be safe.

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[-] divorcedbp 3 Points 4 months ago

Libertarian socialism - “people have the right to be free in their persons and property, as long as it doesn’t hurt anybody else. Except for me, and a few commissars, we get to take your shit at gunpoint because we know better than you as to what should be done with it.”

[-] GodOfDinosaurs -1 Point 4 months ago

That’s not even remotely accurate

[-] RedPlanetMan 3 Points 4 months ago

Lol, they're more concerned about what a libertarian socialist is, can't make that stuff up.

Nice field report, I can't help but see all the subtle, yet flagrant, IOI that women in committed relationships give. Like its difficult to not read into any of it too much but damn is it consistent. Quick example, at pharmacy picking up meds last night and a hot spanish HB8 was there on her own. One of the first things I noticed was the ring on her left hand.

Well, that didn't stop her from lifting the back of her shirt up, giving me a nice view of the trunk, followed by vigorous rubbing/massaging. She didn't see me directly before beginning but she sensed when I arrived, began fidgeting, and then after looking back, the rub down.

I find that many instances like this are occurring all the time, and had been for years. Only now after years of breaking through the conditioning am I seeing the small but important details. I love it.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 2 Points 4 months ago

Don't want to think about where I'd be if I hadn't found TRP. This stuff is essential today.

[-] RedPlanetMan 2 Points 4 months ago

There was a real interesting post a day or so ago about GenZ and hypergamy. It was shocking to realize how hypergamous that generation will be but it makes total sense when we look at the world today.

A part of me was concerned b/c I still had some hopes for some version of TradCon principles could still survive but hearing 13 & 15 year old girls spout TRP knowledge was just a final nail in the coffin.

I felt much better when I realized that I will no longer be the younger, BP kid who will be cheated out of what has been promised/expected; instead I and anyone who cares to learn can be on the flip-side of the next big social shift in popular opinion of what is acceptable/good.

[-] chazthundergut 3 Points 4 months ago

Strong work OP

You did that bitch and her boyfriend both a favor

[-] toolate4redpill 3 Points 4 months ago

In these forums we often look down on "Chads" mostly out of envy and jealousy. However I view them as bro's who help the less gifted by educating them about what total THOT's modern women are. Little do these cum dumps realize but these guys ultimately are fighting for our side. BRAVO!!

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BTW take my advice, if you ever have the same encounter at HER place.....when she goes to the bathroom wipe your dick off on the curtains. Leave a little you+her as a memento......

[-] latinasonly 3 Points 4 months ago

we often look down on "Chads" mostly out of envy and jealousy

i don't know about you , but I am chad. two years ago, I did not talk to women at all. It only became possible for me to talk to women because of game.

the first girl whose eye I caught had a beta boyfriend. so from the very start i was aware of this concept of girls "upgrading". However, I was still too insecure and this prospect crashed and burned.

I did as game taught me., not buying things for girls, not putting myself below them. I rapidly became very confident in platonic interaction with women.

However, success still eluded me. i was too nervous about escalating, and too cautious when making a move.

I never held resentment toward chads, I recognized their strengths that led them to getting women, as the redpill had taught me. I sought to be one of them. I resented the beta boyfriends. I could not understand HOW THE FUCK could some of these guys who I viewed myself as far superior too, have a girl when I didn't.

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i would get a girls number after clear IOIs, only to then to become unsure of what to do once I had her number. I would ask girls to meet up for ice cream or lunch and they would decline. I would then go to a party and see her with the beta boyfriend. I was furious. If I had seen a chad, then, I would understand why I was turned down, and accept defeat.

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then one day, I invited one of the girls who had turned down my lunch dates straight to my house for a "movie". after a few shit tests, she came over. she said " i was out to dinner earlier with my boyfreind, but i just made a dumb excuse and came to see you" that was when I realized game doesn't teach you how to be the boyfriend, it teaches you how to be the guy girls cheat on their boyfriend with.

[-] 319Skew 3 Points 4 months ago

I'd like to hear the play by play from door opens to door closes. Love to compare notes.

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[-] GodOfDinosaurs 6 Points 4 months ago

It was really simple to be honest. I put on “Friends” in the living room because that’s good background noise. I let her in and we went and sat on the couch and talked for a bit while we watched. She was already leaning on me so I escalated and started fucking her after brief foreplay. She told me she liked it in the ass so I grabbed lube and fucked her in the ass. Sat down for a few minutes after and relaxed and then told her I needed to sleep and she ubered home.

[-] 319Skew 8 Points 4 months ago

There should be a compendium regarding people's play by play and there would a lot of overlap.

Last Saturday. I was just 'hanging out' with someone. She said "we're not having sex". End of the night. I was cumming down her throat.

Part of me is kinda bothered by this.

[-] JW_2 2 Points 4 months ago

How did you go from “were not having sex” to the bj? Just say “ok” and then escalate?

[-] 319Skew 6 Points 4 months ago

She likes my profile. I play it cool and busy. Make time for her to meet up. Meet up near her place (logistics). Hit up a bar near her home, instant attraction, I can tell by her actions (hair, smile, slight gasp etc.) grab a drink, kino right away after we sit NEXT to each other at the bar, light banter, push pull when she does things I don't care for, she pulls out her phone, I appear busy and seem like I'm going to end the date. She knows she fucks up and covers the drink. I ask her if she's a passionate woman, go in for a kiss, tease her a bit and pull away.

Change locations. She's like 'no sex' I'm like 'just looking for a good time nothing needs to happen', go to a festival, have fun with live music, walk her to the park, 'not going to fuck', 'jeeze you always this sex driven', make out in the park, rub her breasts, def can tell she's turned on. Keep pulling away.

Walk her to her house. Make to leave. See little resistance but nothing solid. Ask her if I can use her bathroom. "OK but room mate", joke "If she's single, I like where this is going..." laugh. Go into the room, make as if she's a friend and I've been there multiple times. Use bathroom. Make out with her in the living room. "No sex huh" can see her eyes start to fight with her vag which is practically an oven. Start teasing her. Tell her I have ink. Gives me an excuse to show off my body (Thank you lift), tease her more, 'I can't have sex because <reason> but it doesn't have to suck for you.' I tell her show me. She proceeds to blow me then a few minutes later does so again.

That's a pattern that repeats a whole fucking ton of times. Basically if a woman goes 'we're not having sex' she's THOUGHT about it which is a great sign. Your job is to make her regret those words by actions and not so much with words. Tease and pull. Tease and pull. You've got another bitch lined up and if she doesn't behave then she'll get your hard dick. Your date picks up on this behavior and does her best to talk herself INTO fucking you.

Didn't format because I'm going to go out and do this with different girl #2 for this week.

[-] cobalt1728 3 Points 4 months ago

Anyone else here just, like.... hate women?

[-] TopOccasion29 1 Point 4 months ago

I used to feel some type of "hate" for women when i first found TRP...but not anymore. I don't feel anger or resentment for women...i accept them for who they are, improve myself and spin multiple plates. I'm like OP, I'm the guy women cheat with.

[-] cobalt1728 1 Point 4 months ago

I dont participate in that rat race. That is the best way to describe it.

[-] cobalt1728 1 Point 4 months ago

I mean honestly, how does it feel that you have to do these mental gymnastics with this girls to get them to have sex with you? It seems so fake, artificial and superficial.

I have suffered from ED my entire life so plate spinning has never been an option for me.

[-] asiangirlsandfascism 2 Points 4 months ago

Great read. Off topic but can you explain to me what a libertarian socialist is? It seems like those ideaologies wouldn't mesh very well from what I know about both.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 3 Points 4 months ago

I responded to this in a couple other comments. Basically opposition to both state and corporate power. It’s worth googling for more detail, or looking at some of my responses here.

[-] JW_2 2 Points 4 months ago

Any resistance from her when she came over?

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 4 Points 4 months ago

None at all. We were alone and she had already decided at that point so the pressure was off for her.

[-] latinasonly 1 Point 4 months ago

how does this work when there is no resistance - do you just straight up say hi and start making out with the girl?

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 1 Point 4 months ago

She was leaning on me on the couch and we talked a bit before making out and then the rest.

[-] latinasonly 1 Point 4 months ago

so you want to sit NEXT to the girl. what if I was sitting across the girl , what would be good escalations

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 1 Point 4 months ago

This is getting pretty detailed and can change depending on the situation. Honestly, you need to find a way to close the distance. Kino is very powerful

[-] NeedingAdvice86 2 Points 4 months ago

Lots of hamstering in this post...most obviously skewed to give the impression that the author is one bad ass dude...

First believing that you are cucking her BF is a leap of bias...he may be fucking just as many Stacies as the Op and basically sees her nothing but a plate....but it surely makes the Op feel superior in feeling that he is getting one over on the "poor" BF. Unknowable at this point, though.

But the girl is obviously a slut who regularly goes out looking for dicks on the internet to fuck either because she does indeed have a shit BF or because she knows that she is nothing but a plate to the BF who isn't that concerned with who or when she fucks. As she did go looking for the OPs dick who was apparently this week's target but likely she had another one last week and will find another next week. There wasn't even any game other than being available.

What struck me is that this girl's SMV must be fairly low in that she couldn't just snap up a random unknown to her social group dude to fuck while out at the bars, restaurants or club but had to resort to finding an already known former acquaintance in her social sphere which might spread back to her BF or guy.

So congrats to the Op for getting gamed and fucked by this girl...she needed dick and you provided her an easy lay.

Doesn't mean that every girl is going around hitting up guys weekly on the internet to track down and fuck...this is an outlier not an example.

[-] DaddyIssues6 2 Points 4 months ago

This brings me back to my first fuck after taking the red pill.

I brought a girl home after a date in the mountains. Face fucked and on the ride back home I told her if she had broken up with her boyfriend (they had a huge fight prior). She gets mopey and says no. I assumed I wasn’t getting some but she did not stop me from driving back to my place.

We arrive and immediately clothes are being flung off. As I lay on my back for some head, she ties her hair back and says “God, my boyfriend is going to kill me,” and just begins sucking me off.

Jesus

[-] Nov51605 2 Points 4 months ago

Ass fucked her ? nice - TRP is really what it's cracked up to be

[-] MrTheFalcon 2 Points 4 months ago

You are an excellent writer; you capture complex ideas that are difficult to articulate.

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[-] call_in_the_cavalry 4 Points 4 months ago

And here we observe someone currently in the anger phase. I feel you, was there about 2 months ago

[-] sunshinetime2 1 Point 4 months ago

You think I'm in the anger phase?

[-] Hviterev 4 Points 4 months ago

Yes, she did a shitty thing.

[-] sunshinetime2 2 Points 4 months ago

They* did a shitty thing. He knew she was in a relationship. I know that sort of behavior is tolerated, and even applauded, on this subreddit sometimes, but it doesn't excuse the behavior of either of them.

[-] Hviterev 1 Point 4 months ago

Nope, she did.

A monogamous relationship is a contract of trust between two people. That's an agreement between them. What goes on in her life is in no way, shape or form OP's business.

If my best friend asks me to pour him a glass of whiskey after promising his wife he will stop drinking, I am not betraying his wife's trust. He is. I have made no promise to his wife.

Is it noble in a warped naive sense to not fuck people in relationships? Sure. She will still hop on someone's dick and it won't be yours. Congratulation, you're a white knight. But that doesn't mean that fucking her is doing a shitty thing.

She's a grown person, with her own will and agency. If she lies to her boyfriend about being faithfull, that's her choice, not OP's.

[-] sunshinetime2 2 Points 4 months ago

Yeah, but OP is complicit in fucking the other dude over. You can try to explain it away however you see fit, and if that helps you sleep at night, then go for it. But at the end of the day, any respectable empathetic human being wouldn't be a part of that. A real man would be man enough to tell her to get lost, not make some ethically dubious excuse of how it's not their problem but hers so they can get their dick wet. It's an incredibly immature and pathetic way to go about life.

[-] Hviterev 1 Point 4 months ago

Ah well, seems like you refuse to understand. If you're lucky enough, experience will be a better teacher than me.

[-] sunshinetime2 0 Points 4 months ago

Haha, what an asinine smug thing to say. Whatever man. I've had no issues in this realm. However, I know how to be decent to other human beings. If you want to tell yourself that it isn't your problem fucking girls that are in a relationship then tell yourself whatever you need to. But just understand that at the end of the day, you're a piece of shit for doing so. Hopefully experience will be a better teacher than me.

[-] Hviterev 0 Points 4 months ago

You seem very concerned by this. I'm glad to hear everything is fine for you.

Would you like to talk about it? Are you here only to insult us or do you just have a very intense disagreement about this specific topic?

[-] sunshinetime2 0 Points 4 months ago

Oh man, you're full of yourself, aren't you? Nah dude. I'm not that concerned about it at all. I just made the comment that it was a shitty thing to do... on both people's part. You're the one that feels the need to keep pressing the matter. I suppose it's cause you don't have many better things to do than sit around on reddit and argue with some pathetic sense of superiority.

[-] Hviterev 1 Point 4 months ago

Alright dude! I understand you believe it's a shitty thing to do. Have a good one.

[-] TopOccasion29 -1 Point 4 months ago

Yes a shitty thing for her to do to her bf

[-] sunshinetime2 2 Points 4 months ago

Yes it was. Shitty thing for him to do too.

[-] 0kool74 2 Points 4 months ago

considering where he stuck it yeah it was pretty shitty

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[-] uwey 2 Points 4 months ago

Well you can definitely tell who think and act like a fucking beta. If you met a lot of man, and within 30 minutes of conversation you can’t figure social cue he is or is not beta, you are the beta.

Goal is to make as many Chad friends and recognize man that have potential to spin plate, and form long term network or opportunity. Trust me, real story is wild than drug fest Burning man orgy tent.

Stay fuck away from unlucky and depressed, seek strong, independent, risk calculated, ambitious, and driven individual.

Know the difference and learn from mistakes by hide your intentions, and recognize pattern of a fellow plate spinning wild savages, because we are not many, but can relate.

Don’t do it if you are not into networking, for me, network is where money and status barricades. Without network (I network every.chance. No exceptions, ONS? Get her to introduce you to her network, EX? Know her Beta and more network)

Some people really like to be order around, and be fuck with, they feel alive when getting manipulated. You need to find it and use the fuck out of them.

Stay away from people who not enjoy it. Plenty simple.....

Eurythmics: Sweet Dreams My all time memento mori.

[-] wobbleelbbow 2 Points 4 months ago

I think she seduced you, not the other way round.

[-] Phoepal 2 Points 4 months ago

"Libertarian socialist" - is this "gender fluid" thing of politics ?

[-] dipshkt 2 Points 4 months ago

Thanks for that! Your post was really insightful, opened up my mind.

[-] someoneanonymouse 2 Points 4 months ago

If you are so smart to post it here, why do you screw with another man's girlfriend instead of letting him know. Hypocrite.

[-] Sir_Distic 2 Points 4 months ago

We don't moralize here. If OP wants to sleep with another man's gf then that's his choice. Her relationship is none of his concern. Afterall she is going to bang someone, it might as well be OP.

[-] LordIvar 1 Point 4 months ago

A man without morals is not a man at all.

[-] TimmyTurnersNuts 2 Points 4 months ago

For the absolute life in me I can’t not understand why dudes are still wifing up these hoes. Man it’s 2018, ain’t no hoe out here loyal, and if she is loyal, it just means she hasn’t found a branch(DICK) to swing on yet. I remember when I use to feel bad about dicking another dudes bitch down, no longer. I ain’t necessarily CHAD, but keep wifing these hoes and guys with my mentality gonna just send her back when we are done.

[-] TopOccasion29 2 Points 4 months ago

True there's no point wifing up modern women...Just pump and dump.

[-] call_in_the_cavalry 1 Point 4 months ago

Chris Brown has been trying to tell me this for years. Wish I listened when the song "loyal" came out

[-] SelfTaughtPiano 2 Points 4 months ago

When you're done, inform the BF.

The fireworks may be fun.

[-] TopOccasion29 1 Point 4 months ago

It should be anonymous from OP though to avoid physical confrontation, false rape accusation and just unnecessary drama.

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[-] alclarkey 1 Point 4 months ago

Please explain this whole "Libertarian Socialist" thing to me. That sounds like a contradiction in terms, because as I understand it, socialism requires authoritarianism to work, otherwise you simply have capitalism with charity.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 0 Points 4 months ago

I responded in a couple other comments to this question, but it’s also worth googling.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 4 months ago

Good post but what the fuck is a libertarian socialist

[-] Bing_Bang_Bam 1 Point 4 months ago

You can't get anal pregnant

[-] Balance8820 1 Point 4 months ago

I would like to know what you consider 7.5

[-] DaisyJanee 1 Point 3 months ago

That would never happen to me.

[-] look_good 1 Point 4 months ago

wtf is a libertarian socialist. those two terms cannot coexist.

[-] wobbleelbbow 1 Point 4 months ago

Exactly. It's just socialism.

[-] sky_fallen 1 Point 4 months ago

'I promise I won't have sex with you'

[-] fuckingjakedebrusk 1 Point 4 months ago

Heads up, you may want to be careful about sharing a raw screenshot. It might have metadata embedded in the file that could be used to dox you

[-] ahab_dies 1 Point 4 months ago

"What are we doing?"

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OP isn't doing anything. You're the one doing something. But, hey, whatever makes you feel better!

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[-] robbiss 1 Point 4 months ago

Girl likes anal....wondering who broke her in?mmm

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[-] heartbroken_nerd 1 Point 4 months ago

That looks like a great Freudian slip!

I need to walk [my friend] home and then I'll come

Fuck

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[-] pabz_is_keww 1 Point 4 months ago

Libertarian Socialist huh? That means you don’t really know anything at all. Don’t brand yourself as this. Anybody with any sense will write you off as a moron.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 1 Point 4 months ago

Or, it means you don't understand the history of libertarianism or anarchism.

[-] pabz_is_keww 1 Point 4 months ago

You realize they’re two conflicting ideologies right?

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 1 Point 4 months ago

You’re thinking of modern American libertarianism, which is far removed from what libertarianism used to mean and still does in Europe.

[-] pabz_is_keww 1 Point 4 months ago

Any literature you could share? I’m American so I don’t know much about European views.

[-] GodOfDinosaurs 1 Point 4 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

Here's the wiki for starters. Additionally, George Orwell's "Homage to Catalonia" is an account of the Spanish civil war of the 1930s which lead to a libertarian socialist society for a few years before it was crushed by the government.

"On Anarchism" by Noam Chomsky gives a pretty good introductory overview of libertarian socialist politics.

[-] pabz_is_keww 1 Point 4 months ago

Thanks! Chomsky’s now teaching at my alma mater... interesting (and sometimes very stubborn) guy. Still a genius though.

[-] friendlynaboureeno 1 Point 4 months ago

Who doesnt know what Libertarian Socialism is?

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have these people not heard of Google?

[-] cobalt1728 1 Point 4 months ago

Jesus christ this is a comedic lack of self awareness.

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[-] uwey -1 Point 4 months ago

I bromance someone by letting him know our manhood was parked at same vig, like, few day per part. I seek him out and let him know her girl is cheating.

The dude wake the fuck up right away and I saw him few month later with cuter younger girl at local gym, I am with other girl too. We tilt hat to each other and somehow I felt like boondocks saints broatha.

Man build strange relationships through war, sex, all sorts of strange shit.

[-] TopOccasion29 1 Point 4 months ago

That is too much of a risk and a bad idea imo. If OP tells beta bf that his girl is a whore...it can result in word being spread that OP is a homewrecker, Beta BF may not believe it and physically hurt OP, If he confronts his cheating skank gf about it she might claim rape.

I think its best for OP to just be quiet. As per your last statement i agree to an extent, but there will be resentment in this situation should OP and beta BF of the cheating whore become buddies.

[-] preazeu -11 Point 4 months ago

Is anal that normal in america? Are you all faggots, muricans? Damn, porn really fucked your society.

[-] ForeverNandrolone 12 Points 4 months ago

I was married for 22 years. My ex and I had anal about a dozen times over that period. My ex didn’t really like it and only did it for me. I assumed all women were like this, only doing it for the man.

Then I got divorced and started dating. Some women really love anal. Some prefer it over regular sex. Also, anal is the best way to be dominant. A girl will always know you’re the boss when you’re balls deep in her ass.

If you’re not doing anal, you’re not doing it right.

[-] preazeu 2 Points 4 months ago

Yeah, your wife or some ltr, but he is talking about, let's say, the first date. Is this socially acceptable to fuck in the ass a girl you barely know? Or not? I'm just curious

[-] [deleted] 6 Points 4 months ago

Well we live in a time of moral and social anarchy, so other than public racism or sexism, nothing is really socially unacceptable anymore. Now, is it common to do anal on the first date? Absolutely not. Anal is mostly something that men push their girl to do until she relents, although there is a minority of women that are into it.

[-] ForeverNandrolone 4 Points 4 months ago

Imo, you want the sex to be great on the first date so that you get asked to do it again. If they like being fucked in the ass then I do it. It is still pretty rare though.

[-] light-----------dark 4 Points 4 months ago

Don’t knock it until you try it.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 4 months ago

I tried it once and it started to smell bad. I asked if I could go back to fucking her pussy. Haven't had much desire to try since then.

[-] light-----------dark 3 Points 4 months ago

You’re fucking the wrong ass, my friend!

Honestly, I think it’s only desirable if it’s meticulously clean. Definitely for me - different strokes for others. In any case, I don’t blame your lack of desire now.

Had an LTR for 3 years, and never went near her ass. Have been dating a woman for a couple months - has the cleanest ass I’ve experienced - and I fuck / eat it every time we get together.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 4 months ago

So basically she has to douche out her asshole like gay guys do before sex? I don't know, just doesn't seem natural. How could a person's ass just happen to be clean all the time?

[-] light-----------dark 2 Points 4 months ago

lol - I don’t disagree. doesn’t mean it’s not enjoyable though.

had no idea gay guys do that before sex, but I guess that makes sense if they want it to be desirable themselves.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 4 months ago

had no idea gay guys do that before sex

I thought everyone had to do this before anal? Your ass has shit in it most of the time, no? I don't know. I'm fine with pussy. If some chick asks me to fuck her in the ass I probably won't say no. But it's definitely not something I seek out.

[-] xavine 3 Points 4 months ago

By definition you can't be a faggot because that would require another man to be involved. Penetrating a woman in any way is heterosexual. Learned something new today

[-] preazeu -1 Point 4 months ago

Fucking an ass is still fucking an ass, no matter the gender. That's why we're straight, because we're normal and we have normal sex.

[-] MisterRoid 5 Points 4 months ago

By that logic I assume you think it's fucking gay to receive blowjobs too? I mean men have mouths too.

[-] preazeu -1 Point 4 months ago

And kissing is gay too because men have mouths too /s. But just think about it, it's not natural, man, just because it's a hole big enough it doesn't mean you can put your dick in it. Anal is disgusting and everybody knows it except america, the greatest exporter of feminists and fags.

[-] MisterRoid 2 Points 4 months ago

Heterosexual anal sex among humans has been around for a very long time (at least since ancient times). It's not like it's a recent development.

[-] preazeu 0 Points 4 months ago

Pederasty was common in the ancient times too.

[-] davvya 1 Point 4 months ago

when you wank, you're using a guys hand...

[-] xavine 1 Point 4 months ago

I didn't realize you were a troll and now I feel stupid for feeding the troll. Carry on, my friend. I salute you.

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[-] MisterRoid 1 Point 4 months ago

For some that's a reason, yes. Circumcision is a disgusting practice, but of course male circumcision and its negative effects resulting in less sexual pleasure for men is downplayed and portrayed as a good thing because "it makes them last longer". No shit you last longer when you are desensitized.

[-] preazeu 0 Points 4 months ago

Yeah, that could be, and i think porn is to blame too.