TLDR: I stared into the abyss last Saturday night and it's been on my mind ever since. I'm not sure whether I'm more disgusted, saddened, or horrified, or a combination of all three. One things for sure, AWALT; and women get dick at the click of a finger. Even the lower class.
I'd just finished a date with a typical guaranteed n-close tinder girl. HB7, cute face, decent body, but from the info I'd gathered on the date this would be a simple ONS, maybe becoming a plate if she's lucky.
This story isn't about her though. It's about her roommate.
I knew this roommate existed, and on the way to HB7's house the idea of a three-way had been floated multiple times in my head. Of course this changed when she answered the door once we arrived home. Her roommate was a 3. Fat, caked face & pimples looking like a Streets Magnum. Would've been a 2 if it weren't for an okay rack. My hopes for a threesome sank like the titanic. Oh well, time to focus on the 7.
As we enter I discover another surprise. HB3 had already been laid that night anyway, and the dude was in the bathroom about to leave. I was intrigued to meet what kind of bluepill boy would tap that.
The door opens, out he walks....
He's an 8. Chiseled face, good fashion, pretty built. Way more attractive than myself. Internally my jaw drops.
We say hey, exchange that "ay we both scored tonight" look guys do, and he leaves. HB3 laughs about how he was only here for 30 mins and didn't even last that long. No shit, I think to myself.
HB7 offers a drink, I sit down, the 3 of us drink and chat for a bit. The bloke from before slips my mind; I dismiss the encounter as him getting catfished. Poor guy, happens to the best of us. HB3 leaves to her room shortly after for whatever reason, maybe she at least knew not to cockblock. I make my move, take HB7 to her room and things that needed to be done are done.
Lying in bed afterwards, I hear the front door shut again. HB3 comes bouncing into the room and smugly plants herself on the end of the bed. "That dick was much better haha."
What the fuck? While myself and HB7 were fucking, she'd messaged another guy, he'd arrived, fucked her, and left. All in the span of another hour. Even more gobsmacking, she flicks through his tinder photos to show HB7 what he looked like. He was another fucking attractive man. A 7, bit less than the first, but presumably out of her league. Apparently not. Jesus.
It's quite stuffy from all the exercise, so I invite HB7 to go for a shower (an excuse for some shower head tbh, and to get away from HB3's existance for a bit longer.)
We finish, and It's time for me to scoot. As I'm heading out HB3 says I should stay longer, "so 7 isn't lonely while shes busy again." You must be joking. I insist I have to go.
On the elevator down I'm wtfing hard. The door opens at ground level and I'm greeted by... another fucking attractive man. Another fucking 8. We exchange nods and he enters the lift. I watch as it goes up to the same floor the girls live on.
In the time I fucked one HB7, a HB3 got dicked by 3 other GOOD LOOKING men.
A few things came out of this. I now truly believe AWALT. Fully. I didn't before, not sure why. I guess I needed a proper example to be handed to me to experience its full extent. Somehow, in this day and age, any women, whether it be a 9 or a fucking 3, can be railed by multiple attractive men in one bloody night.
Now guys, sex is fun as fuck, but PLEASE. You do not want to be these boys. It's completely fine to have standards. Don't go fucking every blob that moves just because they're all giving you consent to.
One last thing that came out of this. Now for a brief moment, I felt a sense of pride. I hadn't stooped as low as these men tonight. Even though some were more attractive, you still got the hotter woman, that has to say something about your SMV, right? Nevertheless, on the uber ride home, My brain did a horrible thing.
"She's her roommate. They're good friends. She's bound to have done the exact same thing as HB3 in the past."
Her number was out of my phone and tinder blocked moments after. AWALT.
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It’s really bizarre how women think they have accomplished something when they let a guy fuck them with no commitment. Do they actually believe this? Don’t they get that most men will fuck anything because BIOLOGY. Don’t they get that we congratulate each other and feel a sense of accomplishment because women are sexual gatekeepers, so being chosen for sex means you have value?
I guess they somehow actually don’t get it. Like they really don’t understand that there is this whole other different reality for half the population that can’t just walk up to 75% of the opposite sex in a bar and take them home. It just shows the degree to which we have created this society that caters exclusively to women. It transfers resources to them. It grants them preferences. It tells them how amazing they are. It places zero responsibility on them. And it tells them whatever the fuck they want to hear, even if it makes literally no sense.
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I had a similar situation like that. I’m in my 30s and have never been with a girl, so my standards are plummeting hard. At Walmart one night I see maybe the most unattractive girl I’ve ever seen. She had to have been 350 lbs at only 5’2. Her face was completely covered in warts. I looked at her and immediately told myself I’d never stoop that low. That was until I noticed she was already with a guy quite a bit more attractive than I was. My jaw dropped to the floor as I started to wonder if even she could pull off decent looking guys.
The worst part was the cocky smirk she had as she locked eyes with me. Almost as if she was telling me to get in line. As they walked past I could even hear her bitching to her boyfriend about his spending habits.
metallicdrama 5y ago
Sometimes banging five twos is better than one ten. Sometimes.
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There's a thread on BB.com Misc where someone sets up a profile as a 1/10 woman with literally hair all over her body... on POF... and her inbox gets filled with genuine thirst within an hour.
Personally I don't sleep with a girl unless I find her high quality (looks and personality), I reason that if the condom broke and I got her pregnant part of my responsibility is doing so with someone I would actually be ok with being the mother of my child.
protectyourself1990 5y ago
I remember seeing this, it was hilarious. how could you miss out the fact they blended her face with a photo of a pig, just well enough that you couldn't tell
MuchFIERCE 5y ago
Have a similiar observation here, where guys in my school just fall in love with a girl that give them the slightest of attention, even if they are a definite 1. There is this real athletic jock who is about 10 cm taller than the average guy and also a rugby player(buff as fuck) and he is dating someone who is a 4
adamantiumvibranium 5y ago
It's almost always been this way women can get sex on demand and men have to work for it. The inverse a man who is a 3 fucking a 7 only happens when she's using him for some other reason and sex is how she gets everything she wants.
jshtx2117 5y ago
Want to know what's up with your girl? ... Look no further than her roommate;
Roommates mirror each other;
NapalmSunshine 5y ago
Possibly. In my experience most roommates who aren’t long time friends before hand typically hate each other and complain that the other is a slut.
jshtx2117 5y ago
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assholeofthesky 5y ago
why do you care?
you're supposed to be red pill, not faggot pill.
If you're alpha, do you really care who you fuck or what you fuck.
I've fucked numerous fatties and ugglies why? because i'm not exactly superman, they put out and why not?
porn is the reason why people have such a fucking high standard of pussy these days, do i care who and what i fuck?
if you're a healthy male, do you care what some little bitch on reddit says about the standard of your women? no i fucking don't
[deleted] 5y ago
Bro that fat hoe was collecting rent.
cl3537 5y ago
There are landwhales that are prudes. There are landwhales that are whores.
This one example proves nothing. You need to realize hotness and promiscuity are independent.
NameUser18 5y ago
Jesus... did she even shower between guys? Can you imagine being sloppy thirds on a 3/10? My god.
Snazzy_Serval 5y ago
That is seriously screwed up.
Men having no standards makes it harder for all of us. It's causing women to think they have more value than they actually do.
I'm slightly amazed how easy it is for all women to get laid. People who say that "ugly" women have it as hard as men don't have a clue.
Also the ever existence of Tinder and apps like it is really harmful to men. It gives women far too many options and then shit like this story happens.
BewareTheOldMan 5y ago
It's ridiculously easy for virtually any woman to have sex - including fat, sloppy, ugly, and disgusting women...so imagining a reasonably attractive woman behaving in a promiscuous manner is too easy.
I suspect these attractive men had an "I don't care" attitude and went through with the sex act because there were no witnesses.
However, the wakeup call and reality for these women is that not ONE of these men will be seen in daylight hours, take these women on a date, initiate introduction to family or friends, but most important she will NEVER get the title or position of girlfriend or wife - the position that many of them truly desire at the end of all their promiscuity and declaration that it's "time to settle down" and find a husband.
Women behave this way because provisioning, protection, and male concern is not a necessity during their Whoring Phase. A prime example is late teenage years while under their parent's care or while in college - even student loans are covered at government/taxpayer expense.
Once a woman is out on her own, it becomes more important as reality and expenses of life sets in and reaction to receiving less and less male attention - even the fat, sloppy women and ESPECIALLY the fat, sloppy, and disgusting women. The men who offered sex in the dark wouldn't DARE be seen in their presence.
That's GOT to hurt knowing that although you had a brief moment with a stud-boy, it will never, ever, happen again along with ZERO chance of locking in a Beta Provider Chump - even a Beta on her level as they too say "No Thanks."
It's at this point the lowly Beta Male on her level is in a better financial position and even he has a chance with the used up/passed around HB6/HB7 "reformed slut" who wouldn't look in his direction in the first place.
He will likely marry, divorce, and then say "No Thanks" to offers from ANY woman after getting burned by divorce at least once. Some Betas may be desperate and inexperienced with women, but they're NOT stupid.
Stop this madness - it's time to get off the merry-go round.
It's no wonder some guys simply parrot "Enjoy the Decline."
Greek-God-Brody 5y ago
This. 10 times this.
Guys like this fuck up the dating market. And the whole Social Media / dating phenomenon. It makes not-so-hot women's entitlement to grow artificially.
HB's [3-6] think they're entitled to a guy who's a 7.
HB's [7-8] won't look below guys that are at least a 9
And the HB 8+, you already know.
In this age, being an average guy is the worse you can do.
magx01 5y ago
But if the guys are banging them doesn't that mean they do have that value?
SuperCrazy07 5y ago
I was just going to post this. Sounds like fatty gets 7's and 8's to pump and dump regularly. That's her objective value.
Honestly, this seems like a shocking level of slut (three guys in three hours on an ordinary day!)...but at the end of the day who fucking cares.
Torabor64 5y ago
Men not pursuing the most attractive girls makes it more difficult for you to get laid? You need to come up with better excuses man, if anything they are helping you.
JJ3314 5y ago
It probably makes it harder for men in the 4-6 range themselves, who now have to deal with women closer to their level but who overvalue themselves because they once got Chad.
Additionally it’s not exactly like these attractive men don’t hit on attractive women either. Presumably many do, so the epidemic of male thirst, and female overvaluation continues at all levels of attractiveness.
These average to low SMV women are typically the greatest victims of the Wall, and if they get pregnant out of wedlock game over for anything approaching a stable LTR. The human lifespan is long. There is life after 35, and many of these unattractive women are staring down the shaft of 40+ years of abject loneliness in an increasingly indifferent world.
Snazzy_Serval 5y ago
If an 8 guy goes after a 4 girl, it makes the 4 girl think she's an 8 when she really isn't.
The 5 guy (me) tries to go for a 4 girl but she thinks she's an 8 (she's not) and more likely to turn me down.
MAWL_SC 5y ago
Maybe this is just nuance; but they don't think they are HB8s, they know they are fugly. I imagine in some way they are simultaneously disgusted by the man they are bedding while silently hamstering that they deserve a someone hot. AWALT
cl3537 5y ago
You are are hamstering, stop that negative bullshit. You are autorejecting yourself.
When you realize women keep their attraction hidden for manoeuvrability reasons and you will never know if its AW versus genuine interest, you treat all women the same and you really DGAF, you approach any women who gives you wood and DGAF if she fucks you or not there are 10 hotter ones right beside her.
Torabor64 5y ago
Sure, the reason you get rejected is because of every other man.
If a girl thought she was an 8, she wouldn't have dated an 8. They know they are dating up, women aren't that stupid.
Snazzy_Serval 5y ago
The point still stands that women are getting their value artificially inflated because guys they should have no business sleeping with in fact are.
Torabor64 5y ago
Okay you really have trouble with thinking so I'll have to give you a numerical example.
Imagine a population with 50 men above average, 50 above average girls, and 50 below average girls (below average men aren't in the SMP).
If the men go only for girls with similar or above SMV then there will be 1 guy for every girl, which will give the ladies advantage in the SMP because they have more options.
However, if some men choose to go for below average girls too, now the proportion is 1:2, so the girls don't have as many options, therefore you chances with them are better.
I can't believe I have to explain this, basic supply and demand. If the men you critisize didn't aim so low, they would be aiming for the girls you are approaching. How in the hell you would prefer the latter situation is beyond me.
Snazzy_Serval 5y ago
First of all, don't be an ass.
Second, your example is 50 men and 100 women. Which of course gives you a ratio of 1:2
Nothing beyond that makes any sense because your method is flawed.
Torabor64 5y ago
I said that men below average aren't in the SMP which I thought you would agree with me. That's why there are 50 men above average, the 50 men missing aren't getting laid to begin with.
Anyway it doesn't matter if it's 1:1 to 1:2 or 2:1 to 1:1 or any other proportion. More women for the same number of men gives a better proportion for men, regardless of how many women and men there were to begin with. The key point being that the proportion gets better, not the specific proportions themselves. The reasoning works the same either way if you want to consider 100 men and 100 women (which I did), or 50 men and 100 women or viceversa or anything else.
More women for the same number of men is always beneficial for those man (or at worst, equal for some of them). It is self evident.
ricksy 5y ago
You're forgetting the Pareto principle. Top ~20% of guys get ~80% of the girls.
Torabor64 5y ago
Yeah, and if a top 20% guy chooses to go for girls below what he can achieve, that effectively makes the 20%+1 percentile guy inside the 20% bracket. Think about it for 10 whole seconds.
NapalmSunshine 5y ago
HB7 went on a date. She had fun. You probably treated her like a human being. You were probably somewhat attentive to her needs during sex. You even sat and chatted with her roommate a little. You and HB7 both seem to have standards.
FB3 was dicked down by three dudes and probably didn’t even cum. She probably didn’t even enjoy it and thinks because these men fucked her that they were somewhat attracted to her. They weren’t. They got in, got what they came for, and left without a cuddle sesh. They didn’t buy her drinks, or ask her about her day. She was an animated sexy toy to them.
The fucked up thing about this is HB7 is probably wondering why you blocked and unmatched her. But FB3 feels fucking. Good about herself for being used and discarded three times in the same night.
Gross.
DreamBoatGuy25 5y ago
Correct.
The key thing to remember here is the difference between what women want and what men want. Men want sex, first and foremost, women want sex as well but not nearly as much as they want a relationship.
Measuring this situation based purely on physical attractiveness may lead one to assume that the guys were the ones getting the worse end of the deal. However once you figure in the differences between what men want and what women want it becomes more apparent that the girl in this situation gave away the farm for a brief amount of attention from some more physically attractive guys, while getting essentially nothing that she really wanted in return.
This is the reality that get's lost among the albeit still legitimate male frustration at the imbalance in the tinder economy; that in the larger scheme of things Hook Up Culture is still a system that has ultimately drastically depowered women in the dating marketplace by torpedoing the value of their traditional Ace hold card, which is of course their ability to offer sex to men in exchange for relationships. What market scarcity previously made an Ace is now not even a face card due to market saturation. Left with substantially reduced bargaining power in the relationship market placce women, while being freer than anytime in history are also more unhappy than anytime in history.
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Merwebb 5y ago
Exactly. 3 was presumably a wet hole and no more.
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dragonhunter031 5y ago
love the end , very shaymalanesque
frontyer0077 5y ago
A friend of a girl I fucked did a smiilar thing. I never saw it, but she bragged about all the hot guys she had sex with. Talked about the six packs, gorgeous smile etc. Then she proceeded to brag about her huge tits. They were huge, but she was huge as well. VERY huge.
I later discovered that she actually had fucked a very good looking dude hb8. Me and my buddies coould not understand why on earth he would do that. Its just crazy.
TheBasedLibertarian 5y ago
This is like a comedy skit
apsnoasiknvaoiskndoa 5y ago
Yeah, starring Luke Wilson
Brodka17 5y ago
I don't think they got catfished as others are saying. There are a LOT of bros that seriously don't realize their SMV or just DGAF about smashing blobs, hence why bathroom bro gave you an "ayyyyy we scored"... ugh...
Also smashing 3s/4s is not practice, cause I guarantee they don't put any resistance or test you at all.
Ananonguy88 5y ago
This.
Also that's what happens when they go swipe all on Tinder, mah boys. The marketplace crumbles.
Good for the girl.
Viramont 5y ago
My cousin will fuck anything that walks and he has game. Lmao some dudes just don’t care
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Itshighnoon777 5y ago
I’m new to this sub. What does SMV and AWALT mean?
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off to the sidebar with your ass if you're not a troll
Sparky159 5y ago
They may not be good for game practice, but they're definitely useful for sex practice
I banged fatties between 16-19, and now I've got an HB8 LTR and she's asleep, happy and content, because the dick game is too good
Da_RectumWrecker 5y ago
Ew. You can practice on hot girls too you know. It isn't hard to lay down good dick. It's what you're supposed to do. Being proud of laying decent pipe is like bragging about paying your bills on time.
Sparky159 5y ago
I'm not saying that it's impossible to practice on hot girls, but it's easier to practice on an ugly chick than a hot one
Also, it helps to practice on an ugly chick because you don't have much to lose in the event of a catastrophic failure
Nocryingok 5y ago
You don't have much to lose with a hot girl either, there are thousands of them around you
There is no luck in dating, just skill
Cheers
upyoars 5y ago
Fuck dude. My dick game is trash. Im 25 and I cum in 10-40 seconds of entering cuz i used to be hardcore beta porn addict. New to game and only been with like 3 girls in my life. How to fix?
Scriptopeia 5y ago
I am confused. Shouldn't you last longer if you were addicted to porn? Because that's actually the case for me. It's impossible for me to cum if I do not entirely focus on it.
Girls are really confused and take it as a challenge. And some even take it personal when I tell them they can't make me cum if I don't do "my thing".
upyoars 5y ago
I guess it might be like that for some people, but most porn addicts develop porn induced erectile dysfunction (PIED) and other problems.
Scriptopeia 5y ago
I'm just confused how it would make them cum faster. I'd like to think that if you masturbated a lot then you build up resistance, because no vagina can grip your dick as hard as your own hands.
mattizie 5y ago
https://www.nateliason.com/multiple-orgasms-men/
I'm nowhere near his level, but if you pull out/stop when you think you've reached the point of no return, and clench HARD, you can stop yourself ejaculating, and go back to hard again in half a minute or so. Each time you do so, it gets harder to cum until it gets to the point where you have to go full caveman just to get off.
Sparky159 5y ago
Get a Tinder, and set the "Age" scroller all the way to both sides, 18-45+. Swipe right on anything that doesn't sound absolutely crazy/STD-infested/Bot. Get with a 4-5, learn female anatomy, and figure out what gets their engines purring
AWALT doesn't just apply to their hamster, most women fall into 1 of 4 sexual categories:
Vanilla
BDSM
Experimentation
Also, this may sound a bit counter to the "Lifting" hive mind, but do some fucking cardio. That helps with your legs, hips, and breathing, all of which will make you more powerful and longer lasting in bed.
And If you can get a 35-something woman that is willing to put up with your ineptitude, take it. Older women can show you so much in bed it's absurd. If you can get over the fact that you're bedding a roastie, it's well worth the experience
Proto_Sigma 5y ago
You can lift and do cardio. Both are really good for you and if done properly it’s excellent cross training. HIIT helps with makings gains since it boosts HGH and Testosterone, and distance helps with endurance. YMMV (literally).
Sparky159 5y ago
I know, but I also know a lot of lifters who are always “but cardio killz muh GAINZ”, so I felt the need to bring that up
thetotalpackage7 5y ago
if you do three 20 min cardio sessions a week it ain't gonna kill yo gainz. the gainz goblin shows up at four seshunz.
MayanEnt 5y ago
Tbh my yoga practice improved my dick game
passportpowell2 5y ago
Hmmmmm. Got a good recommended starting point for yoga while I Google it too?
MayanEnt 5y ago
I just go to YouTube and do the routines from the channel called “Yoga with Adriene”. I initially started doing yoga to treat my depression but now I realize it has helped me in other ways as well.
I personally wouldn’t pay for classes, I only spent money on my mat and find enough content online.
roy28282 5y ago
Can you explain what in yoga did that?
Sparky159 5y ago
It was more than likely a combination of the breathing techniques and the development of the core muscles that did it
MayanEnt 5y ago
Bingo, my core improved so much it’s making me fuck better. :)
MayanEnt 5y ago
Watch “how to eat pussy like a champ” and thank me later
greenlittleman 5y ago
There is a lot of info online how to last longer and how to make dick bigger. There is a section for that in goodlookingloser. Also it is not because of porn addiction, because if you could masturbate for 1-2 hours then in most cases you could fuck girl even longer. The problem with porn is what most men just jerk off fast without trying to enjoy process and do this as 5 minutes routine.
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Trumpets22 5y ago
Here’s how ya do it boi. Most guys don’t think they can go twice, you can. After your first spit just keep going, she will be impressed. Take a step back and go back to foreplay and once your dick softens a bit and then gets harder again in 5-10 minuets your ready for round 2. It’s perfect because guys take like 3 minuets to get off while women can take a good 15. So it’s a great way to satisfy both of you so she keeps coming back for that dickie. And maybe explode once or twice before having sex.
BBmolla 5y ago
Don’t flex your PC muscle. Do male kegles to build up the muscle. Practice reverse flexing your PC muscle and then during sex focus on not flexing the PC and reverse flex if needed.
If you have no idea what this stuff means then google it.
TheProphetPhysiquiel 5y ago
This is gonna sound like strange advice, but I heard it from someone in the media and tried it and holy shit does it work. When you think you're going to cum, picture the giant, floating head of Kevin Spacey at the edge of the bed. Buys you at least two more minutes.
Johnny-Thunderfrost 5y ago
Bro did you hear that from Gavin Mcinnes? I’ve used the same technique and my god it’s a lifesaver.
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Skrittext 5y ago
Bad advice. Instant flaccid, no one wants to be rammed with a soft dick for 2 minutes
qwertyuiop111222 5y ago
Will Nicholas Cage work?
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untonyto 5y ago
Exactly how many times per lay do you think of Kevin Spacey?
TheProphetPhysiquiel 5y ago
Chances are, I was already thinking about SpaceFace
Chrisl19 5y ago
I hate advice like this. I don’t want to be thinking about kevin spaceys fucking head while I’m having sex, I want my mind on that sweet pussy.
JDawgerson 5y ago
The problem with that is that eventually you end up having an association between that image and sex and Kevin spacey's head turns you on.
Bisuboy 5y ago
If you're an actor, that will probably good for your career
TRPTosser 5y ago
Stop jerking and start reading the sidebar.
Nonstopas 5y ago
basically when youre fucking the girl just read the sidebar, that will help
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TRPTosser 5y ago
I read it as foreplay. For myself - not for the girl.
DarkTriadDetector 5y ago
I'm fucking envious man. I have the completely opposite problem from the same source. Normal sex is just so boring to me. I have had sex with only three women...but I've never once orgasmed. I get hard and all that, but I just don't get any release. I had one short term relationship basically end because of that. I could only fake orgasming for so long before she caught on.
It saved me some trouble when a girl tried to stealth me, to this day don't know why she literally tried to pull the condom off. I was tested for STIs, came back negative.
bipedalsentient 5y ago
look into meditation or internal martial arts like qi gong, my friend.
assholeofthesky 5y ago
stop being a loser and faking your orgasm, that's pathetic
Nocryingok 5y ago
Let them know that you aren't satisfied. (subtly)Pretend that you've had much crazier, better pussy (that's what happens to me when I fuck a fatty, and every girl is someone's fatty). They will go crazy trying to please you, and then you can request your biggest turnons, which if attended, might make you be able to finish. (only if you DON'T apologize or look ashamed for not being aroused to the point of orgasm).
Remember: you are hard to please, and that's a good thing in a man
MagnumBurrito 5y ago
Flex all the muscles in your body and you'll cum a lot quicker
bipedalsentient 5y ago
i dont think it makes a difference if you have good awareness of the groin area.
__ROOSTER__ 5y ago
for a while NOFAP, no porn, and fuck throw away girls until you figure it all out.
assholeofthesky 5y ago
It's funny how this post goes against what the post is about lol!
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Buchloe 5y ago
Supplement with expert fingering
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phishyfingers 5y ago
Unload the gun before you go out on a date(masturbate).
If you are getting close to losing control pull out and resume foreplay until you are in control of yourself. Start working her neck and breasts with your tongue. Kiss her deeply and run your fingers through her hair... Basically just stall.
Put it back in and only give her a few hard pumps and pull out again.
Repeat, mix it up, repeat again. She'll think you are amazing in bed because you pay so much attention to her whole body, but really you are just getting yourself under control.
Delayed gratification!
Eventually your dick will become numb and you can fuck for hours.
Proto_Sigma 5y ago
You may want to look into doing kegels (for men, obviously). They delay ejaculation and make it more intense by strengthening your pelvic floor muscles.
muscletrain 5y ago
Damn 10-40 seconds is bad, I'd probably get some of that desensitizing spray until I got my mind right/used to it if I was 10 seconds bad.
Desensitizes your junk and works really well if you need it. If you don't need it or spray too much it's like your dick went to the dentist.
assholeofthesky 5y ago
Mate, you cum fast the first time you fuck a girl.
overtime after that it's desentizied
wadsworthsucks 5y ago
See, I'm at the opposite side of the spectrum. I last pretty much indefinitely almost every single time. The women love it, but it's aggravating as fuck for me.
muscletrain 5y ago
Yeah in a discussion with girls in our group of friends they were actually more offended if the guy couldn't cum rather than cumming too fast. They seemed to take it personally like they weren't hot enough or something.
Nocryingok 5y ago
drives the hamster crazy
it's clearly a + to your SMV
(watch their actions, not their words)
greenlittleman 5y ago
You probably just haven't met any woman with decent skill. Most of them never even try to become better in sex, because "why I should do that?". If girl knows how to do deepthroat right and trained her vaginal muscles then she could make any guy cum in few minutes if she tries.
wadsworthsucks 5y ago
It's only happened several times, and it was only when the woman i was with was black. Guess my dick don't like white girls? But, whatever works, right?
omega_fat 5y ago
Never mind the shit advice below. Meditation and kegels can fuck right off, never mind Kevin fucking Spacey. Want to last long - get Dapoxetine. Combine with Viagra and be a sex god.
bipedalsentient 5y ago
you cant call yourself that if you use external supplements to compensate for the lack of self control
omega_fat 5y ago
Chemicals will do what self control won't. At the end of the day results matter and not what you used or didn't use.
bipedalsentient 5y ago
Your chemical make up determines your level of self control. Yet we have the conscience to be aware of this and make changes. Its not one over the other.
Lets not abuse the meaning of this, its also kinda blue pill (kinda like steroids, plastic surgery, validation, etc). There are consequences that you can't ignore for every action you take, whether you deal with it now or not, you'll inevitably have to at some point in your life.
vicious_armbar 5y ago
Wear thick condoms. Trying to cum will be a challenge.
LibertyIsNotFree 5y ago
Nonoxynol-9 spermacide would make much more of a difference.
It's why I hate condoms. They don't make magnums without Nonoxynol-9. And it's numb as fuck.
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red_matrix 5y ago
You can also try a numbing agent made for sex. Most adult stores sell it.
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wouldn't that make her numb too though???
red_matrix 5y ago
No - you put the numbing agent on your dick, then roll the condom on.
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GoldCabinetGuava 5y ago
stop watching porn, stop jerking it, meditate, do dick kegels
bipedalsentient 5y ago
Make sure the kegels are coordinated with the contraction of the diaphragm, the TVA and the external intercostals. Exercises in isolation don't last.
I do this in my Zhan Zhuang practice. Its gold.
Bisuboy 5y ago
That means tensing the dick area right?
My former flatmate's ex-boyfriend had problems with nutting a lot too early and she forced him to do this regularly. After a few months, she was perfectly happy with him
Itshighnoon777 5y ago
Yours is the best advice right here. I didn’t quit jerking but I didn’t do as much either. And when I did masturbate I practiced edging. And that helped ALOT. Edging and dick kegals are the way to go
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GoldCabinetGuava 5y ago
I know there are a lot of edgy internet athiests on here who think "religion is the opiate of the masses" and have zero understanding of spirituality, but meditating is the best thing I ever did for dick control. I recommend yoga and learning how do do yoga breathing. Combine that with kegels and you have potential to become a sex god.
CalfReddit 5y ago
Modern meditation has nothing to do with religion so no idea why you're talking about edgy internet atheists. Meditation is indeed really good
GoldCabinetGuava 5y ago
I don't see how "modern meditation" is any different from the ancient meditation that it is based on. Spirituality is part of all meditation.
CalfReddit 5y ago
I still don't see the link with religion. Headspace app (meditation) gets used daily by me, but I am as much as an atheist as you can be.
GoldCabinetGuava 5y ago
Spirituality and religion are two entirely separate things.
Itshighnoon777 5y ago
Wait, so yoga actually helps with premature ejaculation? Interesting never thought yoga would fix something like that. All I had to was edging and kegals but I’ll probably start doing yoga 2 times a week
GoldCabinetGuava 5y ago
yes, meditative breathing definitely helps. On top of that yoga works out your entire body especially your core, and improves your balance if you play sports or like outdoor activities.
You will just have better control over every aspect of your body and mind in general, not just your dick.
LibertyIsNotFree 5y ago
Do you masturbate dry? If not, start teaching yourself. If it hurts, good. You want to permanently desensitize yourself.
If you're uncircumcised, you may strongly wish to consider under going it even as scary as that is an adult.
Until you solve yourself physically that you can go several minutes, nothing else matters.
After you get over the baseline minimum duration. The primary way to have sex for 10, 20, 40, 180 minutes is to constantly disengage yourself. While railing, stare at the wall or start looking are and play I spy random shit in the room. Anything to not be staring into the naked girl you're fucking. Further steps to this is changing positions, locations, types of sex. You specifically do so to stop the contact with your dick and let your brain cool down.
Lastly you can consider alcohol and/or marijuana as a means to delay. But with alcohol you don't want to go far enough you're pushing rope. As a means of self medication vs taking pharmaceuticals which of course are another option albeit expensive one.
Edit: haha downvoted by all those who don't fuck for hours
CalfReddit 5y ago
Getting a circumcision to last longer sounds like a nuclear solution
LibertyIsNotFree 5y ago
I don't disagree.
I'm so very thankful my father made the correct decision at the correct time.
bipedalsentient 5y ago
what a way to NOT enjoy sex
LibertyIsNotFree 5y ago
????????????????????????
I don't enjoy sex so much I have it for hours!
bipedalsentient 5y ago
you want your dick sensitized as possible within natural reasons and then slow down the strokes to last longer...
LibertyIsNotFree 5y ago
Or maybe I'll do exactly what I want for hours. And they'll do as they're told.
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upyoars 5y ago
Yeah I've heard circumcision works wonders in regards to delaying orgasms because you lose a shit ton of sensitivity. It's a blessing in regards to lasting long in bed, but you miss your old dick a lot. I might get it as a last resort option, but definetely not until I've tried every other trick in the book.
AllahHatesFags 5y ago
I'd rather just jerk off than deal with the hassle of fucking some ham planet, assuming my dick would even rise for one.
GodOfDinosaurs 5y ago
They might have been catfished and then just said fuck it. Admittedly this has happened to me before
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mcr00sterdota 5y ago
First time I got Tinder catfished I ran.
jackandjill22 5y ago
No, girl just offered herself as bait to cope with her crushingly low self-esteem. She thinks she's a catch because she's in the sack with these guys but if she met them in broad daylight they wouldn't give her the time of day. & she would break down crying.
Ludus9 5y ago
Happened to my brother before, he went out the bathroom window. Piss my self laughing at the story everything.
not_usually_serious 5y ago
thats why you dont trust profile pictures with filters and the top down angle that hides 200 lbs
greenlittleman 5y ago
I really don't understand how you could have a boner on ugly fat girl without pills or crazy dose of alcohol. But I have seen fat-lover guys online - they prefer fat girls and slim ones don't exist for them, lol.
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Dude your dick will pretty much always get hard in anticipation of sex. If your dna has the chance to father a child with zero effort, it’s going to take it, even if she’s a land beast. The guys were probably already horned up as they were walking to the door anticipating this free lay.
Conversely, you feel an uncontrollable urge to get the be anywhere else in the world after you’ve cum with a substandard female. That’s your dna saying, “we’ve inserted genetic material, now GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE before any pair bonding chemicals are released.”
greenlittleman 5y ago
Bullshit - try to get erection by watching porn with fat cow (maybe you and those guys can, but for me this is impossible). I personally can't consider ugly/too fat women as women same way as I can't consider as "women" 60+ years old grandma or 8 years old little girl. As about your later statement - no, I don't have such feelings after the sex. Because I'm enjoying process more than accomplishment from fucking a woman. For most guys sex or masturbation isn't process they could enjoy for hours and they do it just for orgasm and sense of accomplishment and you talking about later (you accomplished what you want and so you don't need anything else).
Brain don't consider something as potential sexual object just based on their gender. For example any heterosexual guy much more easier could get a boner on "cute girl" with a dick rather than on muscle/fat mountain with vagina.
Your_Coke_Dealer 5y ago
That 3 has gotta be a goddamn catfishing professional
Bing_Bang_Bam 5y ago
Realustically she should be charging 150$ a head. She needs a pimp instead of giving it out for free.
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NapalmSunshine 5y ago
Right?!! I wanna see a pic of her vs. her tinder pics.
James_Rustler_ 5y ago
Tinder pics are probably all close ups that focus on the tits.
NapalmSunshine 5y ago
With filters. Tons of filters.
GanksGriefersForFun 5y ago
Are you for real? There's a lot I don't know still.
--legendary 5y ago
Sadly, catfishing is common.
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WoodWizzy87 5y ago
Pretty sure she’s a prostitute dude
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Blue pillers think ugly men and ugly women both have it just as hard, this post proves this isn't the case.
Men will chase ugly women because they think it's an easy lay, this is blue pill logic. I can assure you an HB3 can fuck a 7-8 guy whenever she wants.
One of the most important things in life is to have self-respect, have some standards guys.
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Eh who cares. I guarantee none of those guys would ever do something serious with those girls. You'd be crazy too. Imagine the ridicule they'd get. But pump and dump? Why not? Good practice and she's probably easy.
vengefully_yours 5y ago
Jesus crispy squirrel bits, you guys come to the wrong conclusion about this. Yes an ugly fat chick can fuck too. Ugly fat chicks are a nice warm place to jack off, remember we are the gatekeepers of commitment, they are the gatekeepers of sex. Back in my time we called it "going hogging" when the better looking girls were being bitches, we'd fuck their fat friends. You snooze you lose bitch.
If you're whining about "that's why why average girls won't accept guys on their level" or some similar bullshit, that means you're a thirsty weak fuck who is desperate to fuck anything.
The take away from this is simple. Even ugly fat pimple faced sluts can get laid easily. There is always someone willing our desperate enough. The difference for us is if we are willing or desperate. Take note, girls have a very different life than you, because you haven't gotten laid, or are so far from ten notches doesn't mean the girls you know are right there with you. Any moderately ok looking girl can get laid multiple times a day, 40 random cocks a month is nothing. Ten a day is very possible.
My 21 year old daughter can pull one twice a day so easily it makes me jealous. She likes the skinny wimp guys, mainly because of who her father is... an overly muscled silver back gorilla. The geeks and nerds she brings around heaved never fucked a girl as hot as she is, but she has a drive like mine and needs it often. I'm not a conservative, not religious, and it's her life, so they're her mistakes and learning experiences, I can tell her not to do something and she will just because I said not to. She it's typical of how girls are now. All the 18-28 year old sluts I fuck act the same as my kid. It's rare they stick with one guy for long.
Stop deluding yourself that she hasn't fucked 60+ guys, girls hit that their first year fucking. The only reason her number matters to you is if you want to pair bond with her. That is a fools errand. Girls are playthings, they can earn their own way now, so they have put themselves in this position. You fuck them a while, or once, and move on, getting what you wanted from her. It's maintenance, men need sex and jerking off doesn't get the job done as well as a warm wet hole between some silly bint's thighs.
You fucks whinging about how a 3 can bang 8s are putting pussy on a pedestal, you're gynocentric mentally, being a girl is everything to you. It's no wonder you can't get laid, you worship pussy and that doesn't make a pussy wet.
TheReformist94 5y ago
What I want to know is why this sub says that women aren't as promiscuous as men and don't have the same sex drive or drive for variety,but once you give the pill and a woman can pay her rent,they seem to be racking up extraordinary notch counts,3 in one day? That's on par maybe not more than what a guy would do.
SendThotsAndPrayers 5y ago
This why you have sons, ladies and gents.
assholeofthesky 5y ago
This is probably why most of you spergs were born lol
Juggernaut_is_here 5y ago
beautifully put Sir...having a daughter who fucks 2 different guys a day,every day, in every hole, puts things in perspective
JJ3314 5y ago
I was rather deeply moved by the “going hogging” remark myself.
RedPistola 5y ago
Do you have a daughter like that?
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AloofusMaximus 5y ago
Preach it brother!
All the dude hamstering about fucking hogs is pathetic too. Hell I've done it too, but when I started to value myself; everything changed. If you're not fucking actually attractive women, you're not going to develop abundance.
alphamystic 5y ago
60+'s ? Almost all girl ive spoken to, and had sex with between 20-23y in Europe tell me 1-15 partners. Of course i'm not the most naive person on this planet. But not even drunk girls told me numbers above 20. Are you talking about a big city like new york, amsterdam, londen? Or everywhere?
alwayslearning2sell 5y ago
probably exaggerating to get his point across. just don't get stuck on the idea that they are only yours or only slept with a handful of people. That being said, it would be easier for women to build that body count than men. AWALT, you're the gatekeeper of commitment, etc.
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
It’s easier and seemingly endless in a bigger city for sure.
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
Trp always suggests taking that number and multiplying by 3.
Venny_1 5y ago
Notice the keyword in the two statements above: tell. It would be naive to believe a woman's word when it comes to her sexual liaisons. It's why people in the manosphere advice to multiply whatever a woman says by 2 or 3. This is not even recommended to gouge a more accurate number, but rather to make sure you don't put her on a pedestal of innocence and virtue, since you more or less "know" now that she is rather kinky and slutty.
Bluefish680 5y ago
A girl will never be completely honest about her count. Even prostitute never tells their count. They either lost count, or if they remember the number, it will always be under 20. Find me a girl who says she sleeps with more than 60 men and I will give you a million dollar
Datanami 5y ago
I've already been told +30 by some girls
blacklightsleaze 5y ago
Sometimes you have to fuck the ugly one to get the testosterone boost.
jonpe87 5y ago
That is why you gotta have some pride and ego. Walk like a god in this world. I'm a 8, smart as fuck, alpha, fit and etc.. lost count of how many 6 I declined. You better me good to taste those genes bitch.
officerkondo 5y ago
Whoa, a friend of mine is one of those guys.
He's 40 and been divorced a few years. He's RP post-divorce but still has some unresolved beta issues in my view. He swipes right on everyone and when he matches, he will meet and smash that girl without hesitation regardless of the girl's ham planet or uggo status. When I call him on this, he just talks about getting notches on his belt and "unlocking achievements" such as "Feats of Strength" (his term for smashing ham planets). Can you tell he likes video games?
What I find most baffling is that he is in good enough shape to have a shirtless profile pic and has above-average facial genetics. He's short (5'7") but that shit can't be seen in his profile pics. I am truly befuddled at the poor quality of his matches.
Ok, I thought of one girl he didn't smash: a wheelchair-bound dwarf with a substandard face. He met the girl and saw a movie with her, but left it at that. He said he just couldn't bring himself to do it. So, perhaps there is a kernel of pride inside that can grow.
Cdsmasher 5y ago
I am very sorry, but your friend is an absolute degenerate. Simply disgusting and one of the main reasons for the fucked up state we normal (superior) men are in. I have a similar "friend". He is 35 and has been working out intensely 5xweek for several years. Athletic body, decently attractive with good style but a bit short. He thirsts over 3s, 4s whatever he can get his hands on. He banged a single fat mom a few years older than him, and even tried to get into an LTR with her despite her extreme baggage. She would call and fight with him over the phone during work hours like they were high school children with shit like "y u no call me???". I couldn't help but roll my eyes at the shit he was doing and he partly believed I was jealous and belittled me for having had very few partners. A single girl I had was worth more than the dozens of crap he could pull.
officerkondo 5y ago
Agreed. I've made the appeals to pride. I've argued that he is just making hypergamy worse. Deaf ears. The thing with the dwarf was about a month ago so maybe that was a turning point. We'll see.
HS-Thompson 5y ago
I only fuck women I consider attractive but I know plenty of guys that don't give a fuck. And there's always a few guys that have like poor taste of course. Sometimes guys just want a warm wet hole. Also plenty of guys have performance anxiety and like it when the stakes are low.
In any event it's not really the guys fault. As we know biologically sperm is abundant and low value. It's the women that should have been socialized better.
Avskygod0 5y ago
Maybe they like fat chicks
Statistically the chances of finding such men in close vicinity is near zero tho
GREYnRED 5y ago
She's her roommate. They're good friends. She's bound to have done the exact same thing as HB3 in the past.
Wow man I never would've thought of that. That's why I'm here. The knowledge we get on this Sub is life saving.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Shrug...
TheRepairer 5y ago
I think what everyone is missing from here is that those guys simply like fat women.
BerdoRules 5y ago
They like Streets Magnum faces too?
therumhammer 5y ago
That’s not what I got from it
NapalmSunshine 5y ago
No one likes fat women. Curvy women and fat women are not the same thing.
TheRepairer 5y ago
People have different preferences. Some people like grannies, some people like fatties, some people like small boobs.
Even though it may disgust you, it doesn't mean it does everyone else too.
Loze1 5y ago
I live in the ghetto of a third world Caribbean island. I work at a mini mart and I've seen most guys here in LTRs with HB1-HB4 about 60% of the time. I don't think I could ever lower my standards for sex. Had a few opportunities to do so but I refused. No attraction and even if I'm stoned there's the risk of getting some sort of STD because women with lower SMV in my country usually has it in one form or another.
SAPPHIREAURA 5y ago
This is dark because women then essentially don’t even have to take care of themselves bc they’re still gonna get dick. Also guilty of it myself it’s true bc of thirst, insecurity. I’ll meet w chubsters on tinder pushing it then in person they’re 20 lbs heavier. These fat hoes are eating.
lacrymology 5y ago
Or maybe they just like her. You never know..
NapalmSunshine 5y ago
Yeah, they really stayed to get to know her, eh? Lol
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I'm 5'7 and bald,m girl humiliate me for my height and bald head, it's time to die.
monadyne 5y ago
Read everything on the side bar! If you lift so your body is attractive and impose discipline on yourself to develop your sense of your own strength of character, you can learn to project confidence in being who you are. That confidence is something that women respond to. Your defeated attitude is working against you. If you project being a fun guy and offer fun opportunities to women, they'll view you in an entirely different light.
therumhammer 5y ago
5’7 isn’t really short, and it’s taller than most girls. Grow a beard if u can. Work out. You can do this.
temerity18 5y ago
Neil Strauss was a ladies man and was completely bald.
Paladin2903 5y ago
5’7” is only slightly under average worldwide height for a male — which is 5’8.” It’s really not bad. Aim for the girls that are 5’5” and under. There’s plenty of them out there.
Pay no attention to the media. If you watch that and sports, you’ll think that damn near every guy is 6 feet and over. The vast majority of guys are NOT 6 feet and over.
faissaloo 5y ago
Being bald is only unattractive if you aren't jacked.
Time to get jacked.
lemonfluff 5y ago
God you sound like a self absorbed, shallow Dickhead.
bostonburrito 5y ago
Think I’ll make this my tinder bio
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AshyBoneVR4 5y ago
This one's easy. That HB3 with a decent rack, she's not catfishing. I can promise you all her pictures are of her face before the breakouts, and tits. Angles for fat girls are wonderful things. I will never again underestimate the black magic that girls are capable of when it comes to angles.
steed_jacob 5y ago
So... I'm new to this sub and have no clue AWALT, HB7, and HB3 mean. Would someone mind explaining?
edit: i just found that link in the sidebar. please don't attack me
Rudeyyyy 5y ago
Ok real quick. I’m a 20 year old virgin and I have 12% body fat. I’m in great shape and have a strong jawline and got my braces off. I “revamped” myself if you wanna call it that. Dressing better, grooming, etc. the whole 9 yards. I feel like a 8 and I posted on that am I ugly subreddit before I found TRP and women rated me a 6-7. Still the only thing I get is fat women. Matches on social media, in person they come up to me and I want none of it. My friends tell me that I need to get laid but I refuse with a fat woman because it’s a huge turnoff. I’d rather approach and try to pull a woman I’m interested in from the start than have Pearl from Spongebob come up to me. I’ve always had standards I think. My friends would fuck anything with a hole. It’s sad now a days tbh.
Hypnot0ad 5y ago
Bro, you're only 20. Take a look where that puts you on the SMV chart: https://therationalmale.com/2013/06/20/smv-ratios-attachment/
Just keep working on self improvement and career and the situation will improve in time.
If they match on social media but bail in person, it's most likely because they can smell your low confidence. Maybe you could find a nice looking post wall 30 year old to teach you the ropes in bed?
Rudeyyyy 5y ago
Oh know I match and sometimes they give me the number I just never meet up because they’re fat or just ugly. Ironically my confidence has been raised a lot since before I found TRP. I was thinking about raising my tinder age higher to meet with some more uh how would you put it...experienced women?
SovereignSoul76 5y ago
I get the people saying "Focus on yourself". But 8's banging 3's does have a devastating effect on the entire sexual landscape. Women operate on the hedonic treadmill of SMV: once they go up, they rarely go back down, even at the cost of driving themselves nutty looking for commitment.
HappySmaug 5y ago
This is a lot more common than people think. My former roommate had a fat torso, funny looking face, tooth picks for legs and what appeared to be an inverted ass. She would always get dick from guys who look as though they could do way better. Funny thing is they would never be seen in public with her.
Vibez__ 5y ago
Kek'd hard. Good idea on that last sentence, get yourself (thoroughly) checked, my guy.
MrCarepig 5y ago
Fucking nasty ass landwhale ass ass
anonlymouse 5y ago
Nobody's going to comment on the use of HB3? Doesn't 3 preclude being HB?
Datanami 5y ago
Below 5, H is for horrendous
shashasharan2003 5y ago
HB stands for hot body right ?
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Herdsengineers 5y ago
Sounds like she's selling it.
pbar 5y ago
I would rather, much rather, sit and read a book about Winston Churchill, or build a piece of furniture, or just about anything, than...errr, be intimate...with a fat girl.
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This is the definition of dudes who say "pussy is pussy" they'll fuck Nothing that walks lowering the standards of all men!
You should've said "ey bruh you can do better, come on now!" Also its out duty to spread the msg. If you can inspire one recruit you've done your job
Dmva100 5y ago
I usually will only fuck a 5 or less if my notch count is about to make it to the next 10 (i.e. if im on 39, 49, 59, 69,) ive made exceptions for the sake of my ego to get to 40, 50, 60, and 70, so fucking that fatty here and there makes me a good man because I respected a wimminnn and didn't judge her pillsburys
JJ3314 5y ago
Holy shit I don’t know whether to laugh or cry bro. These comments man—keep ‘em up!
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Alpha_Jedi 5y ago
For some dudes the thirst is real. It is a possible catfish scenario, since we don't know what her profile is like (or if she's using actual pics of herself). But still, it's amazing how we can feel for a fellow man. Strange times we live in my friend. Strange times. Cheers.
SideBouttaYoleague2 5y ago
Yo u gay if youre able to rate the attractiveness of men that accurately wtf
TheStumblingWolf 5y ago
At first I thought they were men with previously low smv who hasn't adjusted to their value, had low self esteem or something. But 3 in one night? What are the odds? This is a crazy story.
erthian 5y ago
What is the click of a finger
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boatsbeaton 5y ago
I dont know what your scale is benchmarked to? Maybe to these other guys think shes more like a 5 or 6?
I'm not proud of it, but sometimes you just want some pussy without putting in any effort at all. If I'm wanting to bang now rather than spend a couple hours closing, I'll drop my standards a bit.
Magicmatt352 5y ago
What does AWALT mean? Great story by the way. Is there more of an analysis you could make about women being able to sleep with any guy they want? What does that mean for us men?
Iwannachokekatie 5y ago
Why wouldn't you splash your load in some easy sluts face if she manages to get your dick hard?
Mach2Machiavellian 5y ago
Problem is that below-average girls don’t get me hard.
Iwannachokekatie 5y ago
Then you wouldn't go and bang or stay to bang if catfished with a below average chick. Those guys did get hard.
No harm for either party. (Besides the occasional syphilis)
WaT30 5y ago
Exacly ffs, I seriously don't get how guys can get hard at chicks like that. I slept only once with a fat girl (she was like 20 kgs heavier than in the pictures). Once I entered her apartment and saw her, for a split second I was like, should I leave or not. I said fuck it, since I'm here, might as well go through.
Big, fucking, mistake.
That woman had the worst attitude, and so far (I don't know if this is a blessing or what) only bad sex experience. Unfortunately for me too, somehow I was "hurting" her in missionary (I am big, but no other fucking girl complained), and when we switched to doggy, I came in like 2 minutes after as she was going crazy with moaning and phrases like fuck me harder. After that I tried to cuddle her, and she doesn't like cuddling! Crazy bitch! With her attitude and the way how she talked to me during the resting period, she started to blow me, but I had too much of her crazy shit on my head, and I simply couldn't get hard! You know it's bad when she sucks you, and you can't get hard. We tried again with her on top, I went soft, she called it quit, and soon after that I left.
Because of her, I now basically have PTSD for fat girls and girls with attitude. Never fucking again will I fuck a fat girl.
Seriously guys, for everyones sake, if it's really THAT bad with a dry spell, go to a fucking escort. Pay a hot chick 200€ for one hour, and bang her. Your dick, self-value, and other guys will thank you for that.
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TheNextMilo 5y ago
Oh that's just fucking grim.
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look_good 5y ago
lol ur putting urself on a pedestal bro...ur talking ab tinder, pure #s game, stay humble
redcontrition 5y ago
Sometimes you just gotta bust a nut ????????♂️
aesthetics4ever 5y ago
Strange story. Unless you visited a working girl and her roommate was also a working girl. Why would the 3 just casually walk into the room after you and said 7 had sex and casually talk about getting smashed by two randos in front of you?
As-You-Were 5y ago
Pizza doesn’t have to be hot for you to want to eat it
naIamgood 5y ago
We are all striving to be alpha here so I will ask what kind of a man goes to Tinder to lose self respect in the first place? Do you think a real alpha goes to Tinder to get laid?
Anyways these 7+ dudes are getting their nuts wet for the night but they are doing a huge disservice to the brotherdom.
Atolla2 5y ago
You only need to go clubbing to see this in action. Solid blokes cracking onto the chicks that look like toads, some lads will take anything they can get.
SteveRogersPill 5y ago
One of my best friends has great game and is a good lookin dude.... one time sent me a pic of a blob he just finished fuckin and I said “really a fat chick?” all he said was “sometimes you just gotta to it” it’s really that IDGAF attitude in some guys
omega_dawg93 5y ago
do as you please, but i don't monitor wombs or cocks.
broads gonna fuck who they want and so will guys... it's none of your business; so don't make it yours.
jxf15 5y ago
When I first got started I had to drop my standards just for practice, now not anymore. Maybe they just want some practice?
ThePlague 5y ago
Or it's just the fast food of sex; quick and easy, but subsistence level at best. You know, the old "Fast, Cheap, Good. At best choose 2"
chrisname 5y ago
Yeah, this. The sugar, salt and fat in a Big Mac and fries are designed to activate the reward circuits in your brain so that you either don't notice or don't care that you're eating crap with no nutritional value. I reckon big boobs on fat chicks do the same thing to some men.
SovereignSoul76 5y ago
You can write a book on it and title it "Fast Food Pussy: the staggering cost of ratchet gash"
ThePlague 5y ago
LOL. Yeah, I don't think I'm the man for that particular job.
It is what the OP sounded like.
redpilledcuck 5y ago
What's the point of putting "HB" in front of a 3? No 3 is a "hot babe".
EPArt 5y ago
I just feel like he smashed the hb7 or he was the one who had the threesome, I mean how could he in his right mind do such a thing. Update:Okay i read the rest either she is a hooker or a bitch who is offering men money or bitcoins I refuse to believe she is effortlessly defeating men far above her power level without something to grease the wheels. Witchcraft,hypnosis strong drugs shes a high ranking fbi/mi5 agent...fucking infinity gaunlet. I swear I know they can get dick but that's not natural I reject this reality thats some matrix shit. But also good call at the end.
magx01 5y ago
"maybe becoming a plate if she's lucky."
Oh, you guise.....
relder2585 5y ago
I honestly never understood the mentality of banging a below average girl (once you're older than like 16, anyway). I would much rather jerk off
QuasarBather 5y ago
This. The whole “pussy is pussy, man” thing does not compute with me. There is a threshold where I’d literally rather jerk off than touch a hideous land whale. Any chick that’s sub-HB5 is not worth more than my right hand.
PhaedrusHunt 5y ago
Once you get used to fine women there's no going back. 7 is my floor at this point haha.
BewareTheOldMan 5y ago
I concur - all p#@#y is not good p#@#y .
QuasarBather 5y ago
I wish I had that level of abundance. Painfully average is about my cut off - any uglier than that and I have no sexual inclinations.
PhaedrusHunt 5y ago
It's out there brother. Keep working on yourself
magnificent18 5y ago
The Coolidge effect.
Or "we don't always pee in a nice bathroom, we can also do it outside in a bush."
No strings attached sex is fun and self pleasuring. Having sex with an attractive women is just bragging rights.
frontiermarine 5y ago
the real question is...did you get an STD test afterwards?
alclarkey 5y ago
I have observed this phenomenon. I know guys from work, decently built, not ugly, must have a hot wife right? Then I meet the wife, she's a fucking land whale. Then I get razzed for not having a GF. If that's what having a GF means, I'll fucking pass TYVM.
Floofyboy 5y ago
This is a bit different from the OP tho.
Its one thing to bang a 3 just for sex, but when your LTR is a 3... wtf
alclarkey 5y ago
I will grant that many of these women probably started out as 6-8 and degraded to a 3 from too much comfort.
telenoobies 5y ago
u sure she wasnt an escort??
FatStacks6969 5y ago
You realize some women are sluts and some are not right? Just because they have the potential to be getting banged nonstop doesn't mean they are doing it/they don't find that gross?
mollieflower 5y ago
I kinda wonder if in her head she was going 'my poor roomie, stuck with this ugly loser while I can get hotties! Maybe we'll trade next time; poor girl deserves to orgasm sometimes!'
tempolaca 5y ago
I girl fucking 3 different men in a row is either a prostitute or she's completely insane.
intensitythatheals1 5y ago
What if they have standards that don't match any of yours or mine? Just because they were good looking according to your standards doesn't mean they have to have sex with hot chicks or models. Just like you said, sex is fun. Let them fuck whoever they want and enjoy your fuckdate.
And the girl you fucked., If she fucks you and fucks others does that mean you throw away a chance to see her again? You fucking other women makes you respectable but she is a slut right? I guess now I can see your standards in terms of language and mindset.
TheSx505 5y ago
easy dude, don't get too intense, OP already knew that. Discussion here is about HB3 and a very probable influence over HB7 behaviour.
Besides the main point being how easy is for a chick at any range to get tons of dick with such ease.
intensitythatheals1 5y ago
So what kind of influence do you think the fat chick will have on the prettier one? I think it is easy considering that not all tinder dates end in sex. She seems to have that part well figured out. Do you think it probable the pretty will end up having a lot of cocks? Possibly. Is it bad? No Who cares if you want just easy sex. Enjoy it. Fat chicks get sex too. Surprisingly this one got a lot of sex. Doesn't happen all the time. If you read the whole story it is about the fat chick. Not if there will be any influence on HB7. Or he could have mentioned it at the beginning then drawing us all into it. Since this dilemma only showed up at the almost inevitable end.., well you do not need to figure out that much. This is all about fat chick and her attractive fuckboys. Would you have blocked her number and deleted the tinder match just because she fucks so much? I wouldn't. If I only want sex, I keep her and move to better dates and maybe a better gf. But judging her is a waste of time IMHO
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Your_Coke_Dealer 5y ago
I’ve done a trifecta. There’s a bit of luck involved for a guy compared to a woman, but stacking up two tinder dates one after another isn’t too hard with an abundance mentality, and three not much harder than two. The luck comes in with finding matches actually down to show up versus trolling for an ego boost. Also parties sure make it easy to take a girl to your room, go back to the party when you finish, and repeat.
The trick (besides frame, game, and appearance) is to know when you’re wasting your time and move on. It’s almost a subset of frame, but some women simply don’t want to fuck you, and you have to notice that and move to the next one
LibertyIsNotFree 5y ago
I think 3 girls was the most ever in one day for me. I'm absolutely sure about two in a day multiple occurrences, but if there was 3 ever. It was literally like once.
Back in college I amused myself by the number of girls I could get to cum all over my sheets before washing them. Never once was I questioned about it.
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sentientVibrator 5y ago
This reminds me of a military base situation... are you active duty or something?
Sparky159 5y ago
Shhh.....We don't talk about the barracks
uebermacht 5y ago
A couple of months ago, there has been a post here about an arab woman who used to hang out in a military base and literally go from barrack to barrack to fuck and suck the cum out of the soldiers. It has such an impact that the base commander suspended her from the base.
telytuby 5y ago
Wait so you deleted a potential plate’s number cos she may fuck other people? I’m confused.
cl3537 5y ago
Its fucking tinder what do you expect?
If you were on tinder swiping right to EVERY girl (don't hamster we all have done it for kicks) seeing what you could get and a landwhale matched with you and you were really horny.
Unlike all the other cunts on tinder who play around for validation, bla bla bla, takes a few days to go out on a date, bla bla bla only a % of them will fuck you bla bla bla.
Instead she messaged you up right away and pretty much said "Come Over Now, I'll spread for you at the door and within 60 seconds you'll be inside me"
How many guys would take that offer? My bet well over 50%.
Why does this surprise you? HB3 has extremely low self esteem and wants cock validation.
HB7 is never doing that, but you can be sure she can pull from Tinder if she wants even more easily. However if either of these women isn't bottom feeding for Sex Addicts, average women get about 10 - 30% message rate from guys after matching.
chadjugo 5y ago
Long time lurker. I’m seeing a lot of comments that confirm this story. u/blackedoutfast literally broke this down as simple as possible a while back (with my own realizations behind each paragraph):
Hence the “7s and 8s” coming in and out like a brothel
Like uggos going on social media and complaining about a “creepy guy” (equal SMV) that said hi to her. Attractive women experience much more objectification in the daytime alone but they just go through the motions and don’t feel the need to broadcast it online unless it’s an actual creep/stalker.
I think this also explains why PUAs/TRP encourages guys to approach attractive women in any social environment. Also why you’ll even see ugly broke dudes with hot women.
the last sentence also seems to explain how attractive women will say “He was hot...until he opened his mouth.” Fat/ugly women will put up with shit game from a Chad just to get the validation of getting laid by one.
Interesting stuff that I hope doesn’t get buried.
Tripletag 5y ago
I don't get men that do this. The first few lays of my life were often with unattractive women (gotta start somewhere) but honestly my standards have gone exponentially up over the years, not down. You are the prize.
Casd12 5y ago
lol, this is the same as asking people to stop eating fast food. Its quick, easy and gets the job done.
Stop being so jealous. I bet you wont complain if you were a 3 and are able to summon HB7s at the click of a finger. Just because some people have it better and easier than you doesnt mean you should have it that way as well. The world isnt fair, stop getting butthurt about it.
Nega-Chin 5y ago
Great advice. While admittedly, there is something sad about those guys sticking their dick in whatever hole they can get, that shouldn't affect OP at all. Let them waste their whole lives feeling proud about fucking a hundred 3s while you get with good women. OP should be thankful they weren't the ones fucking his girl.
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WaT30 5y ago
Something tells me if attractive guys weren't banging every fucking one with a hole, the situation would be different, wayyyy different. Now, if she, looking like that, get's fucked quite easily, how the fuck would a guy on her level, or slightly above her level, get laid? If fat 3's get nailed by 7's, so twice their value. So basically you need to be an 8, to smash a below-average 4. Wow, fucks sake.
BTW, where do you live bro?
Iwannachokekatie 5y ago
No? The first guy that fucked the 3 was an 8/10 bloke who per OPs words was more attractive than OP himself. OP banged the 7.
WaT30 5y ago
You missed the point... I know that an 8 guy banged a 3, I've read it...
But we come to the conclusion that because of guys doing shit like this, a fucking fat 3 gets banged by guys twice her level, so no wonder girls won't settle with guys on their level.
tobi121097 5y ago
The hard part is the fact that in one hour the 3 had the amout of sex a male 3 has in his whole life.
genuine_destructive 5y ago
Quiet that inner incel. We all know it’s harder to get laid as a man (because males have more intense/immediate sex drives, we will be down to bang much more frequently -> female 3s get laid; nothing surprising here/kinda on us as men). That said getting laid multiple times in a day is totally within reach for a man (usually with established plates though, not online swipes).
Datanami 5y ago
I'd rather bang one plate four times than fuck two of them in a row
genuine_destructive 5y ago
Yeah I don’t disagree with you there, having slept with multiple people in a day (not saying it’s frequent for me, just that Zeus has smiled upon me a few times), I can tell you it’s almost entirely an ego thing. You just go around being like, “wow I’m a fucking badass” to yourself for the rest of the day. But in terms of is the sex better? Depends entirely on the plates of course.
Vanwaq 5y ago
I work with a guy who is in my opinion a 7 and could be a 8 or even a 9 if he works out and gets a legit haircut. He is naturally a good looking guy. When I went to my colleagues wedding and was getting ready to meet his girlfriend that he always talked about and complained about running his life I was shocked and left speechless when he introduced me to a hb2. She was overweight, not good looking and didn't have much a personality either. In the table she was running him. Get me drinks, get me a dessert and I was about to throw up. I myself am a 7 on my best day and wouldn't think of touching that with a 19 feet poll. Poor guy has so much potential but just settled for whatever he can get.
greenlittleman 5y ago
Because for man to get laid you also need a personality. Just looks are not enough to get laid. They can give you more opportunities but it doesn't matter if you can't take them.
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I know this comment is three days old, but I have to say thanks. You've just completely changed my perspective and helped me get over some hurdles.
Camp_KillYourself 5y ago
Believe it but do the work to achieve it
Throwaway_5252 5y ago
Some of the comments here are dumb as fuck. Listen, I fuck 9's and 10' Brazillian models every weekend. My main ladyfriend is a 10/10 south american goddess who, in terms of her looks, is capable of beating out 90% of her competition. But if some lonely chubster is giving me the puppy dog eyes look and she's soft-spoken and kind and submissive, unless she looks like I might catch a disease by speaking to her, rarely will I ever turn a girl down for sex. And if your sex drive is high enough, most guys won't. What I see here is a lot of egotism. "How will I be perceived by my friends and social circle if they know I fucked a fat chick." This is a very female mindset.
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Luckyluke23 5y ago
yeah it's hard to put your head that a hb 8 is the same as a hb3 lol
rapeturd2006 5y ago
Is this how all of you talk? You sound like retarded scientoligists with your fucking stupid language. She's one one on the tone scales, blahhh blah blah bleet. Seriously. You should stop it. It sound idiotic.
DubbleFUPAwitCheez 5y ago
Keep in mind this is also how STDs get spread the most. As a rule of thumb, the more gnarly the chick, the more you should wrap it.
cappadocianhawk 5y ago
Good. More 7+ thots for me.
None of this matters. Only important thing in your life is you. Be attractive. That's what matters. Lift, be fun to be around, and you don't need to worry about how below average girls don't get it on with average guys because of inflated self worth. It's true, but also redundant.
I went to the hospital because of an UTI ( yeah I know ) and the doctor listened to my heart and sent me off to get an ECG. The ECG room was small, only enough room for the machine, two very pretty nurses and a small bed for you to lie on.
I had been there years before, and the nurses were cold, distant and had zero interest in me. Because I was fat. This time, their faces lit up when I entered the room. Obviously after spending all day putting electrodes on fatties and old people with heart issues, I was the only good looking guy they had seen all day.
The one in charge told me to lift up my shirt and pants and lie down. I told her I usually did that after learning a girl's name. They actually laughed at my stupid joke. Then I lifted up my shirt as ordered, and the six pack I worked for so long was revealed to them. You could almost see the panties get flooded. They both made a big deal of putting the electrodes on my body, all the while I told them a silly story about how some nurses in another private hospital forgot some electrodes on my friend after a surgery. They pretty muched giggled at everything I said. Then we were done, and I got up and started to leave I noticed they didn't unlock the door for me. They lock the door while there's a patient in, but apparently they forgot to unlock it when we were done.
I decided to take chance and making it sound like I'm only half serious I said: " I understand you want to lock me in here with you and have your way with me but the good doctor will be worried sick if I don't get back to him, why don't you give me your numbers so I can call you in a few days to make something happen ". And it worked.
tl;dr: Be attractive and you can pretty much do or say really goofy shit and they will eat it up because they will be thinking with their pussy and not their brain.
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hownao 5y ago
Some dudes are straight up ugly and get vag
cappadocianhawk 5y ago
They have something else that appeals to the chicks they've been fucking. You can't really learn to think, but you can lift heavy and dress well, will make you look reasonably good. Good, reliable way to become attractive. Just need discipline.
muscletrain 5y ago
You from Cappadocia? Just spent a week there ATVing and Hot Air Ballooning.
187oddfuture 5y ago
upvote for the subtle sarcastic dig. nice.
muscletrain 5y ago
Not sure where you got the sarcastic dig from but I'd love to hear your explanation, Cappadocia is a place in Turkey with awesome cave hotels.
cappadocianhawk 5y ago
Hot air, get it? It really is clever.
Yeah I'm from Cappadocia, I'm also a bird.
420KUSHBUSH 5y ago
At this point with all the stories I hear on here and in person, I believe uglier girls get more action than the hottest girls do
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
Lower standards. More validation (dick) needed to feel good.
Cdsmasher 5y ago
How do you even do it? Even when I didn't get laid for years, I had ZERO desire for fat, ugly girls... to the extent that even if they'd come up to me and beg for it, I would absolutely turn them down. Doubt I could it even get it up.
I thought such "high standards" were due to porn and/or bad hormone levels. Been on no fap for weeks, nothing has changed. Got tested for hormone levels etc. and everything is normal.
I just can't help but get pissed off at guys giving fuglies all the validation. Besides the "high libido", have you no pride and self respect?
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BurnoutRS 5y ago
Man Im just turning this into an Always Sunny episode in my head. Mostly apeing off the christmas one where the dudes are running a train on Charlie's mom. Those dudes were straight up running a train on that ugly bitch omg. This life is glorious.
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LibertyIsNotFree 5y ago
I don't know about that. Bad sex is awful. Then there's that person still there you either need to throw out or take home still.
long-lostfriend 5y ago
I haven't had much bad sex, but bad sex is absolutely worse than no sex at all.
RedPilledRoaster 5y ago
This shit made me laugh too hard
TheBigForklift 5y ago
So I’m somewhat new here. Posted a few comments here and there, but just learning at the moment. Two questions for you: (a) what would you suggest those guys to actually do in that situation? (Besides have standards) Even if you have a plate/fuckbuddy/ltr, who is to say she also does not have plates? (B) kinda a follow up, but is it unreasonable to say that If roommate can get three dicks into her room in that amount of time, that 7 you got with could do the same thing?
bostonburrito 5y ago
a - I woudln't get into a position where I'd be sleeping with a 3, but If I were somehow catfished I'd just leave. You're not obligated their time and you got every right to walk away.
b - you're spot on, hence the last bit of my post.
TheBigForklift 5y ago
I originally misread the last part but very good call!
And you’re right, you don’t owe her shit.
xyzzy8 5y ago
One man's 3 is another man's 10.
TheSx505 5y ago
LOL thx for making my noon man
andreas-mgtow 5y ago
No catfishing going on there. This happens routinely, being good looking is no indicator of being selective, or even red pilled. I know quite a few "Chads" who'd stick it in a garbage can if it were wearing a blonde wig.
Camp_KillYourself 5y ago
Why can't we expose these dirty thots
PhaedrusHunt 5y ago
There used to be a little slut whose boyfriend lived next door to me. She was a hottie too, until she got knocked up and deep into alcoholism.
Anyway, one night before she was really dating that guy, she fucked three guys the same night in this house. And it wasn't even her house.
Kennigmatic 5y ago
Well written story. You should become a freelancer.
JerryLawlerPigFace 5y ago
Lmao this was legendary. She is now known as, and only as:
“THE BLOB”
Paladin2903 5y ago
He might be an “8” who used to be a “3” and just has shit for self-esteem, and doesn’t realize (consciously) that he’s now a good-looking guy.
It’s one thing to change your physical appearance (for the better), and it’s another for it to finally set in and gain that kinda self-esteem.
Many people aren’t able to win that mental war.
JDRoedell 5y ago
Maybe the HB3 made good money, had a successful career and a good retirement plan. Sorry, I couldn’t resist. But seriously... this was fucking scary to read
therumhammer 5y ago
I really don’t know any of these acronyms