http://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-league-raises-21-million-2015-1
Amanda Bradford doesn’t think her dating app, The League, is elitist. She prefers the word “curated,” the same way Ivy-league schools and top employers select only the best candidates.
Can't have all those low SMV men shitting up the place, now can we? Top tier Alpha cock and wealthy Beta bux only!
The League, which just raised a $US2.1 million seed round, is operating with 4,500 beta (Hehehe) users in San Francisco. The goal is to make a more selective Tinder that’s only for the most interesting, motivated single people in cities around the world.
This will be a Alpha male's dream because you'll have hoards of young women trying to lock you down via this app. Technology is going to destroy the dating market for low SMV men because if there is something tech is REALLY good at is filtering algorithms. You are going to see more and more apps for women that allow for more and stricter filtering out of low SMV men.
So your choices are to either raise yours, or get out of the market all together.
Edit:Personal side note. - Jesus Fucking Christ! It has become whiny in this thread. When you see shit like this your first response should be "well I am going to have to improve myself to be closer to the top 20%" AKA "Get Good"
If your first response is to whine, cry and give up then you are no better than a woman and should spend the next week reading the side bar material and hardening the fuck up.
Life for men is struggle, pain and work but if you put in you will reap the glory of said work. It's this defeatist attitude that drives me up the fucking wall and why I am personally against encouraging this MGTOW bullshit.
I'm in my late 30's and I am still rebuilding my body, mind and career so I can spend my 40's smashing 20 yr olds with a "silver fox" fetish.
It's never too late to start, but you have to ACTUALLY FUCKING START! If all you do is sit there and bitch about how hard it is, then you deserve everything you fucking get. /rant
always-rp 10y ago
This is fantastic. I'll try and get in the beta
useyourmouth 10y ago
So they filter on the front end, to make sure only elite get in...but do they then ever cull the flock of aged hens?
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
yeah... see there are services like "seeking arrangement" for that.
They just fly under the radar.
mykonos_rm 10y ago
didn't they try this with beutifulpeople.com?
watersign 10y ago
its basically like a 'dark pool' for dating. not sure how many of you are into finance/trading but dark pools are exchanges for the elites ( big corps, insurance companies, hedge funds, etc)
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Ebenezer_Wurstphal 10y ago
Harvard grad here too. I see no reason to compete in a smaller, ostensibly more competitive, pool when the tuna fish all look the same in both places.
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Another Harvard grad here -- it seems that we have quite a few in this sub. I don't see a reason to use this app either. Why make it more difficult for myself?
foldpak111 10y ago
High school drop out checking in
cruyff8 10y ago
I'm actually pretty intimately involved with this particular app. If anyone wants tips on getting in and gaming it, let me know.
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My new goal in life is to get on this app. Fuck all the thirsty chicks and then never call them back.
knitro 10y ago
This is absurdly alarmist - I see illimitable wall of bitter text has already spit his hot take.
Newsflash, this is what life is like. No technology will change, mitigate or undo reality. OP is mad at the way things are, as if righteous anger alone will change things. Still further to go, for you.
The supposition here is that they achieve their goal:
And here's why this doesn't matter - it needs buy in.
The real audience for this is women with over-inflated opinions of themselves (yes, that's most of them). Normal Tinder works just fine for dudes that all women want, so does going to a bar, or walking down the street. They don't need specialized apps. Wall-approaching or post-wall women who think they can still cash out a winner do. It's a female attempt to reduce the noise and increase the signal. It'll fail because there's no draw for men, especially those it wants. Will it get some? sure, but never the critical mass it needs to succeed.
They can already do this, no new algorithm needed. I don't know why it's bad either - trp is about improving value, not wallowing at the bottom. If you are a 4 and doing nothing to improve, you don't deserve a 10.
Online dating in all forms has always been to women, the choosers, advantage. No dude worth his salt is going to jump through the hoops something like this presents and it will ultimately fail.
Please debunch panties.
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ProductivityMonster 10y ago
don't forget about gold-diggers! Maybe consider the time constraints many rich BB are under...many work like animals and don't have the natural attractiveness to pick up quality women easily/quickly enough. If it speeds up the process or increases the supply of women for them significantly, it may be worth it to them. Maybe it gives BB the chance to feel like an alpha since they are part of a preselected group? So maybe the target audience is wall-approaching women and BB men (marketed to feel Alpha for being prescreened "elite").
aptway 10y ago
I wouldn't want to be selected for only my money. Then you get pathetic duty sex. Fuck that.
OurMindsLiveOn 10y ago
2 quick things...
you are correct, there seems to be no incentive for high quality males to join onto this app, and it will probably be trashed, forever lost.
knitro 10y ago
re: 2 - maybe so, but bitter is bitter I'm not misusing the word. The guy is viewed as some sort of a authority but has a whiny, life's unfair and I'm angry about it tone to his prodigious contributions.
JayViceroy 10y ago
I thought the same exact thing. Yet you are being downvoted. No one man has all the answers. TRP God does not exist.
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Claude_Reborn 10y ago
Well someone is a bit pissed off. You really need to get that salt out of your vagina, it'll do damage. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're in the "Bitter / Angry phase" of swallowing TRP. That or you're some sort of sad troll. Either way I feel sorry for you.
So, let me give you some help and address your points
Actually if you follow the Stronglifts program (http://stronglifts.com/5x5/) you only end up at the gym for about 1.5 hrs a week. My University has a good, cheap gym so I just go between classes. 30 minutes a day 3x a week. Not a lot of time, with a huge amount of benefit. I am already getting a lot of positive attention from the 20 something women that I am around.
Naah I invest my time in my studies, my work and other pursuits. I work with my hands every other weekend at a local forge learning to blacksmith or on electronic projects as part of my work. If you have interests and passions, pussy comes to you.
Do you work for IMAX? You're one hell of a projectionist.
It's not an "uber tinder", it's just another attempt to filter the lower class of men out so they can focus on that top 20%.
Sorry, I am not a submissive. I am the one who dictates to women, and you'd be amazed how wet it gets 20 ish girls when men take charge and treat them like slutty sexy toys. Sad you'll never know that joy.
And you are a mediocre troll.
2/10 A pretty piss poor trolling effort, maybe next time be more subtle.
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the_red_scimitar 10y ago
I totally agree with OP's edit about whining. Add to this the "open hypergamy" that Rollo now writes about frequently, and the whole stigma of AF/BB is being dropped by women as they openly claim the right to do exactly that. And, frankly, I don't see a problem with it.
I've been online dating for maybe 4 years, and literally have read (and I do mean read) maybe 4000 or more women's profiles. They often express all the tropes that TRP has for women - older, out of shape ones thinking they are entitled to fit, handsome, well-off, romantic stable, successful, funny, dynamic and active men.
But this goes two ways. The men they allow in will NOT be interested in the majority of the women who feel so entitled. Why would such a man not go for the young women? Answer: he will. And once this site goes up, give it a year before women start leaving in droves to find men who aren't totally out of their league, as most of the men on this site will be.
Alternately, to save it from collapse, the site will start lowering the bar, until it is meaningless, because such men don't really need those sites, except for low-effort hook-ups - if such men even care for that.
NigTrannyMarxFemJew 10y ago
Big fucking deal. Just go to any poor country around the world and you can find an endless array of beautiful women willing to jump into your arms.
IllimitableMan 10y ago
It's this assortative mating shit that leads to higher social/economic inequality as well. In the old days a breadwinner man married a woman who didn't earn shit and so wealth was somewhat evenly spread, that's how the middle class was born. Men in factories, women at home. Now women are out getting degrees, and education turned more into a business rather than an academic pursuit focused on the pursuit of knowledge and thus the value of education has devalued. To make things worse, all the manufacturing went abroad (how do you think China suddenly became the #2 economy? Everyone is getting chinese kids working for 20p an hour 18 hours a day to make their toys and electronics and shit.) Don't even get me started on student loan debts.
Due to hypergamy women REFUSE to date down, but they're "educated" in their nonsense degrees so they want men equally educated or better. People gloss over the details by saying "they got a masters or a bachelors or a PHD" but, for example, I wouldn't say a Masters in Business (something a career woman would have) is equal to say a Masters in fucking Physics. No way. Physics is way harder/more prestigious. Anyhow, what happens is they only date "top tier men" and what you get is couples who are either both individually wealthy/top professionals or a couple where neither person earns much. Rather than what we had before where one person was pretty independently wealthy and supported someone who wasn't. Thus the gap between rich and poor continues to widen and the middle class continues to erode. See, men will support women, but women won't support men. Men making good money on one income and supporting women is what built the middle class. You won't see many, if any, professional women who have a non-professional husband. And when it does happen, don't expect that shit to last. Don't expect that bitch to be happy as the breadwinner. Yeah she'll like the control/power she has but that is ultimately what will ruin the relationship. She will disrespect her man for being less economically successful than her, feminism be damned it doesn't change female nature.
Globalisation hasn't helped, but feminism is the real nail in the coffin in this shit. Less jobs, lower wages in real terms, so the average man finds it harder to make a wage and have a family. Boomers had life FAR EASIER and higher standard of living with more resources to improve themselves with (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn3RVYCbYU4#t=12m27s.) They had less competition for jobs and dating. Now I know the instinctual response is "be in the top 20% then!" 1. that's easier said than done, and will take years for any young guy who gets this information young enough to make good of it, it won't "just happen." A lot of guys get overwhelmed by the reality and just succumb to depression. 2. not everyone can be in the top 20%, we're all in competition, if everyone improves then standards just go up and you don't actually reach the 20%. You end up being a well-educated, fit guy who's still poor as fuck and thus irrelevant because you don't have economic power. There will always be losers.
You have to be willing to do extreme shit to get successful these days because previous generations done fucked it up for the millennials. That's why millennials have massive narcissism issues and men are beginning to embrace fucked up ideals like the dark triad. Because "being normal and working hard" isn't enough to even have a fucking family anymore. And the majority of people aren't even born in functional families anymore so the desire to want to create one is even stronger. How ironically perverse. Your ability to create a family now is lower, but it's harder than it's ever been to do so. We're seeing a return to a two-class system and effectively "harems for guys who made it, nothing for everyone else" as an economic effect of institutionalised feminism combined with globalisation.
If you weren't born with a silver spoon in your mouth you need to be kind of a crazy cunt to get anywhere these days. Be willing to go to prison, take huge risks, fuck people over and get yours. It's sad it's come to this, I guess, but it's all part of the decline. I think it's sad your father or father's father who didn't have half your education or awareness of the world could run an entire house/car/boat on one manual labour job when guys now work their asses off, the bitches aren't interested in the average guy (only the TOP MEN) and they get paid less and cant afford the kind of independence that men of previous generations easily could. Now, without doing illegal shit, you have to be hyper intelligent or connected as fuck to make it. A lot of intelligence is wasted in the lower classes anyway as they never got a decent education. Fuck the system.
Fuck the hippie generation who left this shit pit of a legacy for today's young men and women. It fucks over women in the future who can't lock down a provider post-wall, but young men are feeling the pain RIGHT NOW. Young men also do not have the option of "locking down a provider" they can't fucking use their sexuality to leech onto someone who made it in the economy. They have to fucking make it or they're fucked AND NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT 'EM or will give 'em a leg up. Older guys who came up when shit was easier wanna hold onto that power/position/pussy and don't re-create the same opportunities they were afforded to the generation of men coming up. It's all closed-door, you're a family friend, or an autist with 150 IQ or you're not getting hired unless you're a good looking girl who'll suck dick for wages. I don't think the vast bulk of young men out there, we're talking 16-30 have ever had it as difficult. It was monumentally easier to make it at 16-30 2,3,4,5 decades ago. Equality is bullshit and we all know it here, if it wasn't young men could date up too, but they can't. Life's a bitch. Get yours. Aggressively work for it. Or this skewed system will shit all over you and leave you with nothing. Channel your anger and become great. /rant
Edit: typos and thanks for gold.
metallica11 10y ago
I think one part you are missing is that women really are giving less a shit about what a man does and what he makes. The influence of money and power on a women's biological attraction response only takes real influence (creation of "tingles") as men make amounts of money that signify real power above the norm (aka owning a BMW 5 series or a Condo or your own house don't cut it anymore..you need that mansion/high rise condo etc). This is because women are more independent, as you say. Strangely, this means that LOOKS and GAME, in my opinion, are the most important factors for attracting today's woman. I argue that, a man that makes 30,000 a year but is cultured and has good game and looks great but lives in small one bedroom apartment with a shitty car and a fixie would actually have more success than a guy who is a Principal Engineer /Technical Fellow making 150,000-200,000 a a year who owns his own place but is average looking. Now, a Patent Lawyer making 500,000 a year - that is a different story.
Professional women are going to want the good looking hipster as a side fun toy over the Principal Engineer working for google making 200,000K, UNTIL she finds the lawyer that makes 500,000 a year.
And regarding your comment about increased awareness of the important of looks/grooming as women place more emphasis on raw attraction cues such a looks/physical power is becoming more and more evident over the years. Men are taking notice and dressing better. The "lifting" and "crossfit" culture has exploded. a big factor is men wanting to look bigger and better. I walk around and see that men in their young 20's are almost always dressed well, groomed, and in good shape now. Yet, it hasn't helped because EVERYONE is doing it. Instead of being in the bottom 80% and being in poor shape and slovenyl dressed, you are in the bottom 80% because you are fit and well dressed but EVERYONE is fit and well dressed. So now other factors play in such as game/height/raw facial aesthetics etc.
neveragoodtime 10y ago
Face it, the baby boomer generation fucked up the system. They gave us 3rd wave feminism, latch key kids, no fault divorce, and unrepentant greed. And no, the Beatles don't make up for that shit.
Women won't date down, they're entitled and think Prince Charming is owed to them, if he exists or not, without work on their part. Men can fight back by only dating down. She has a degree? Fuck her and don't call her back. What's the point? TRP has already opened your eyes to these AWALT bitches. Find a girl who still lives at home, and works in retail with no degree. These are the only girls capable of appreciating what you offer them. Women will adapt when they realize their career didn't lead them to family or happiness. Look at the impractical shit girls wear to workout, they'll do anything to attract a man.
Instead, I assume this smart Stanford woman thinks the solution to their problem is to screen men more heavily. What, in her infinite wisdom does a 6" cock say about a man's ability to maintain a relationship? Nothing, and that's what these women will be left with when he takes his cock to a younger pussy, because he's pre screened, and girls are lining up for him in this app she just created.
And how are the women screened for these top guys? You're right, they aren't because grrl power. These "elite" guys will have no reason to stick around with these mediocre girls. I'm going to start my own app, virgin females only need apply.
87GNX 10y ago
Oh it's worse than that.
The girls are being screened by the same people who screen the guys, that is the predominantly females who run the app. So it's going to be the same vapid over-credentialed sluts. They can't let in the pretty lower-class women because Amanda Bradford has a Master's from Stanford and if they let in the pretty svelte feminine underclass women that would shine a light on how little men value that sort of signalling.
Hell, their screencap shows a woman of middling attractiveness with an impeccable education (Carnegie Mellon, American School Singapore) and a bullshit job (Web Designer for Slate). The CH boss-secretary model isn't happening here.
If you're a guy and you use this app to do anything other than spin plates you're an idiot.
GritsConQueso 10y ago
If a Boomer claims that they are responsible for the Beatles simply because they liked the Beatles, you should punch them in the face. Goddamn I hate Baby Boomers. They are the worst generation of humans by a long shot.
foldpak111 10y ago
http://youtu.be/Zqb7mPHphxg
You can see this in action. Look at all the fatties in the crowd lusting over him. You can see written all over their faces that they truly think they deserve a man like that.
Note how she keeps pawing at him. You know you're high smv when a girls paws for your attention.
aguy01 10y ago
When you have enough SMV girls just say 'give me your number' and fuck you. This guys whole game is to just not be autistic, and his SMV does all the work. Women take one look at him and they instantly know that they should acquire his genes via insemination. He doesn't have to entertain her; she is actively looking to capitalize on the rare opportunity that is his seed. He gets the same treatment as a hot woman. He is the reason women think men and women are similar in dating; she pursues men, just like they pursue her! It's equal! Most women have no idea what an exception a guy like this is to the rule.
garlicextract 10y ago
Guy like that can essentially pick whatever girl he wants to marry.
So he must have married a blonde bombshell but has to put up with bitching and entitlement for the rest of his life, right?
Nope, he married an Indonesian native, below him in the looks department, but likely very feminine with a desire to take care of her man
http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20131019/rs_634x1024-131119165030-634.josh-holloway-2nd-baby-with-yessica-kumala-111913.jpg
DaegobahDan 10y ago
Wow it like you know this shit intellectually, but every time you see a new even more egregious example it just blows my mind.
Baylien2 10y ago
Dude coulda had an orgy going in that room with the hot ones while the fatties masturbate in the corner
blandboringusername 10y ago
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e_n_t_r_0_p_y 10y ago
Upvoted simply for the comments on the Beatles and female work out wear. Gave me a chuckle.
Dangerestdrag 10y ago
You have to ask yourself where did the arrogance of the baby boomers come from though. They were born in on of Americas most socialistic eras. It was the success of the prior generation from social strength that brought about this attitude but with the rise of commercialism and anti socialism the narrative was re-written to be about personal independence and working hard. Yes they worked hard but only because the nation made the decision to work together. It is the lie, that we got here by just looking out for ourselves, that has created this social status system where the average man loses out.
neveragoodtime 10y ago
Sure, as long as we can agree they are the worst generation of humans ever, regardless of the reason. What I think you're saying is they were preaching socialism, while practicing pure selfishness. Sort of like women claiming what's yours is ours and what's mine is mine. In the process, screwing over all the hard working average betas who didn't understand the game.
DRMMR76 10y ago
Only a fool thinks socialism is a real solution to any problem.
Dangerestdrag 10y ago
It's about the balance not one or the other. You need a people willing to work for the own gains but a society that supports them as well. That is exactly what red pill is, we are all potential challengers for the same women but we are also helping each other improve. You not acknowledging that is as faulty as feminist thinking we just all need to work together. Look at Germany, they are thriving keeping the euro alive because of a society just like that, they support their people but the demand a high quality lifestyle out of them.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
"who" fucked to the system is completely irrelevant. Aliens could have fucked up the system for all that it matters.
This is the system you live in and it isn't going to change. It has always been like that, and will always be like that.
So get good, or get the fuck out of the pool and become one of the MGTOW failure types.
zephyrprime 10y ago
Don't you see the bigger picture though dude? Yeah, a person can get good but the problem still persists. If the problem were just a personal problem, then that would be fine. However, it's not just a personal problem. Every generation is getting smaller because men and women are failing to come together. It's just not obvious yet because the declining population in the US is being masked by immigration.
Jimmy_Big_Nuts 10y ago
If they fucked the system, that implies it wasn't fucked when they got the keys. I don't see why it can't be un-fucked. It's a problem, we should fix it. Doesn't have to take too much effort. Just don't vote for any conservative candidates (since they are the baby boomer vote), join the leftwing party, internally vote to neutralise the feminist element. Job done.
rpkarma 10y ago
Funny you say that. that's exactly the plan I've been working on for the past three years. Going to take at least 15 more though.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
You can't un ring the bell when it comes to social change.
Except for every 1 of you there are, there are 5 beta pussies who will cut their own throats to appease women.
You need to remember that TRP is a VERY minority position, and everything is pretty much working against it.
Society is engineered to make life easier for women, always has been.
Left, right, doesn't matter, all sided will pander to women when pushed because women are the easiest voter to manipulate. Most women vote based on "feelings" not logic and as a group are the biggest swing voters.
Night--Writer 10y ago
Why not become one of those MGTOW winner types?
http://www.wimp.com/alonewilderness/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
Well because
I like living in cities and 20 yr old pussy feels AMAZING.
Again, you need to realize that if you make yourself to be the top of your field, no matter the field, women will come to you. You just need to learn rp theory so you don't "beta out" and drive them off.
PM_ME_UR_ZYGOTES 10y ago
Your phrasing indicates you're currently a virgin, as one who has already gotten their dick wet cannot die a virgin, yet you talk about ' 20 year old pussy ' like it's an exotic item, which is indicative of your age being high enough that you aren't exposed to 20 year olds at say, college, for instance. So you're at the very least a mid-twenties virgin, which is about as beta as you can fucking get. Bad news bud; all of the protein shakes, bench presses, expensive cars, and beach front property in the world can't make you an alpha. You can read this sub religiously, follow the advice to a tee, but they can't make you an alpha. You were born a beta. Women can smell your beta-ness as soon as you approach them. I'm not saying you won't ever get laid, there are desperate women everywhere. That you so desperately seek for others to acknowledge you, to see you as different , to be an alpha is why you aren't an alpha. Oh yes, you will attract women if you reach the ' top of your field, ' but their goal is not to be with you, it's to benefit from you, to use you, to reach the next rung in the ladder. If you think there aren't plenty of beta's out there that are wealthy, and successful, that get used by CC riding whores, you're deluded. Your post unintentionally gives you away, and its super obvious. Oh yeah, and we all die alone bud. Don't fear it.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
For gods sake, learn to use text formatting!
Tesla died a virgin, I am certainly not one.
20 yr pussy isn't exotic or rare here, but being with a 20 yr old is fantastic. Their body is still nice and firm, they have so much energy and are keen to do pretty much anything.
The rest of your comment is just dribble more than anything. I can tell I hit a nerve though, due to your wall of un formatted text. You can believe what ever you want to, to protect your little ego, in the mean time I'll be out enjoying myself.
Kill_Your_Ego 10y ago
Yes and there are many such girls working at malls waiting for you to come run game on them. Though AWALT still applies. At least they won't have artificially inflated their own perceived SMV with s useless masters degree in social work and $80,000 in debt to fund her six year ride of a thousand cocks.
foldpak111 10y ago
Hilarious comment. I saved it.
Kill_Your_Ego 10y ago
I no longer find this funny. 96% of these women have destroyed their ability to be wives. They will die broke and alone. Or worse. Drag some BB down with them into their hell. I keep meeting them. They are miserable just as we are.
Hasmond 10y ago
No they won't, the government will subsidize their debt. The government will do this either through raising taxes (which will prompt corporations to move their facilities to other countries) or print money to pay it off (which will devalue the USD and weaken the US financial position globally).
Kill_Your_Ego 10y ago
Yes this is true. Can't take some short term harm for actual real gains. "Think of the childrenz!" LOL. Gotta love liberalism.
Wish I could fast forward ten years. Can't though so plan accordingly. Sell your house and rent. Don't invest in the shell of America.
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Not a left/right issue but a libertarian/authoritarian one.
Kanyin 10y ago
Selling your house and renting isn't a good idea. Land is the only thing with actual value any more.
Kernes 10y ago
Where will this trend bring us to?
isthatyourdaughter 10y ago
Yeah, as much as I respect you IM, I see a much simpler endgame to all of this- a mass return to the philosophy of "keeping the women in line" if you know what I mean
Let's face it, some forms of physical dominance are pretty hard for a woman to deny
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isthatyourdaughter 10y ago
I'm not talking about me, friend, you obviously see what you want to see. I'm simply playing a futurist for argument's sake. This isn't the sub to hate-lurk if you've delicate sensibilities.
IllimitableMan 10y ago
I see where you're coming from but I don't see a snowballs chance in hell of feminist legislation getting repealed. As for the social anarchy, would the effeminate bitch men of today be able to stand up to all the squawking harpies losing their collective shit? I suspect not. Men aren't collectively strong enough anymore to "put women in their natural place" as it were. But what can you expect when they're all raised by single mothers and there's fucking xenoestrogens in everything? Most men are divorced of their manliness and hence not "men" in the truest meaning of the word.
Short-Guy 10y ago
If men in the western world are now weak, then immigrants from other countries will pour in and end feminism the old fashioned way. Do you think feminism can win against radical muslims or the drug cartels?
rp_aware 10y ago
It can happen if enough men unplug and collectively take the stance that the buck stops with them.
truthiesttruth 10y ago
I agree with everything you said but dont agree with your pessimism about the future and the exact degree to which men must overachieve in order to find a wife.
Theres no fucking excuse. There will always be poor women looking to marry up and sideways economically, you dont have to be ultra rich.
Get all the pussy you want till 35, marry the youngest woman you can find, come to terms with awalt and the fact that she probably still jumped 10+ dicks, marry her anyways because you chose her for her ability to raise children (alone), and keep plates.
Divorce rape? Marry poor enough/get a good prenup and you should be fine.
What is so bad about this future?
Its the fucking 60s all over!
RU_Crazy 10y ago
The future is grim. Both economically and socially. The same 80/20 split being discussed here when it comes to dating prospects is happening when it comes to income. The middle class is dying. At some point you have to accept we are in the decline phase in the revolution ---> incline ---> golden era ---> decline ---> revolution societal cycle.
truthiesttruth 10y ago
I know that what i posted has dark shades of bp in it, but the fact is that society has tipped the scales in favor women when it comes to every single aspect of dating and marriage which means that men CANNOT win. The game is rigged. Fucking deal with it.
AF/BB + hypergamy is the ultimate reproductive strategy for women and it has no counter, it is foolproof.
You have to come to terms with the fact that she is going to get hers, one way or another, society has told her its okay to jump 1000 cocks and settle for cash. Its just the power that comes with birthing your own children.
Just because you will lose doesnt mean you cant get a high score though.
Once you truly come to terms with AWALT, the rest becomes irrelevant, find the most motherly women to give you sons, raise them to be MORE alpha than you EVER were and dont ever stop fucking new women. This is how you get the highest score.
Is all this just my male hamster rationalizing? Maybe, I just cant see a solution thats more optimal.
Dont get married/have kids? You lose even more so. Im 2 deviations from the mean in height/ looks/ strength/ intelligence/ youfuckingnameit, 100000 years ago someone with my genes would have had dozens of children. Letting losers outreproduce you leads to situations like idiocracy, which is already the current trend.
Getting to your point... automation and solving the energy crisis will change society in ways we cannot yet imagine. Food/electricty/work will become unnecessary within a handful of generations. A universal living wage and hypersocialism will mean that men have more time to work on their game and tend to their harem. Very soon BOTH men and women will be redundant.
We got society this far, have a little more faith in men.
the_red_scimitar 10y ago
A great post, but you are repeating some worn tropes that are incorrect about American manufacturing. "All" of it did not "go to china". See the Wiki article, which states:
"The United States is the world's second largest manufacturer, with a 2010 industrial output of approximately $1,696.7 billion.[2] In 2008, its manufacturing output was greater than that of the manufacturing output of China and India combined, despite manufacturing being a very small portion of the entire U.S economy, as compared to most other countries.
If the top 500 U.S.-based manufacturing firms were counted as a separate country, their total revenue would rank as the world’s third’s largest economy."
That section has good citations as well.
Also, we're now seeing China move some manufacturing to the US:
http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/24/smallbusiness/china-us-manufacturing/
And the most recent data is very strong about US manufacturing:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-mo-us-factory-manufacturing-20140425-story.html
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-mo-us-factory-manufacturing-20140425-story.html
Best to be up to date about such things. This doesn't mean jobs for everyone, by any means, especially as more and more of the economy is now service and IT oriented.
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the_red_scimitar 10y ago
You don't need to argue about it. You dropped to ad hominem right away, so no point in trying to engage intelligently.
myexile 10y ago
"Due to hypergamy women REFUSE to date down, but they're "educated" in their nonsense degrees so they want men equally educated or better."
And if you look at her app screenshots in that article, they just list what school. I would rather know what they studied, and then from where they studied it.
IllimitableMan 10y ago
The app leans significantly towards fulfilling female preferences anyway. Majority of men don't give a fuck if she's educated, they just want someone innocent/sweet and attractive. This "elite" shit complements hypergamy/women's status chasing nicely. Yeah sure some guys wanna power couple it up for political reasons, but the bulk of men would happily marry down if the woman was pleasant enough.
It's women who will want this app the most as it's they who want to marry up/across and the webpage says the app has slightly more women than men on it, I won't be surprised if that trend keeps up. A lot of men who have been burned more than a few times know career women tend to be cunts. Especially those who went to top schools and shit. Fully on that "I'm an independent women I don't need no man but I want one that's better than me anyway bullshit." It's been said here before, the more a woman educates herself the smaller the pool of men she is capable of being attracted to becomes. A lot of career women end up alone, they are, after all, getting more college places, graduating more, and getting hired easier/in record numbers due to affirmative action and shit. Some even say they're graded less harshly too. I'm not sure about that. But I'm not sure all this female prosperity is organic, more like socially engineered.
ProductivityMonster 10y ago
She does have a solid business idea. Cater to the women on a dating app and the men will come, even if she has to filter out most of the men based on wealth/education.
Newdist2 10y ago
Assortative mating is fine. The problem is when you combine it with unrestricted female hypergamy in a system where women don't need male providers.
garlicextract 10y ago
They do need a provider; they just don't need to be faithful since modern technology and society allows for easy cover-ups
Newdist2 10y ago
Government is the provider.
foldpak111 10y ago
Damn straight. That's why if things financially don't work out legally, I'll do it illegally. I'm going to make it, or I'll die trying.
Baylien2 10y ago
Real shit mah nigga....get paid mah nigga
TheRedTrader 10y ago
It wouldn't be so bad if this assortative mating led to an increase in the amount of children born with good genes for our current world. The problem is once these power couples have formed they also seem to have less children than the lower classes, thus in the long term the system becomes even more increasingly unbalanced. Not only are the lower classes now not interbreeding with the higher classes but they are also spitting out children left right and center whilst the power couples are too busy nurturing their careers to give a shit about nurturing children.
You only have to have half a notion of future trends to see that this is not going to end well.
zephyrprime 10y ago
This. If only our prejudicial reproductive instincts were actually functional. Instead they are dysfunctional and creating a dystopia.
NoRegretj 10y ago
Again, back to money they see no reason to have kids because, who the fuck wants to pay for all that shit considering how expensive it is now to raise children? Keep them away from very dumb trashy kids? Eventually pay for their college? No sane couple who makes a good bit of money wants to work their asses off to pay it ALL to their kids schooling, why have more than one?
Yet it's completely ass-backwards, the poor are the ones having the most kids and expecting governments to just pay for everything. And They are, because of corporations lobbyists knowing exactly how they will make their money off them, so now anyone can go to pretty much any school, no matter what money they currently possess because of loans. Including wonderful affirmative action giving an unfair advantage in both college admissions and internships. This is the banks just capitalizing on this need making BANK off the loans and interest, they're selling us out and we're fucked. Think they don't know what they're doing or how to fix it? Please, we're past that.
omfalos 10y ago
Rich people have bad taste. Instead of spending their millions on houses, cars and boats, they should spend their millions on harems of wives and hundreds of children. That's the old-fashioned way. The rich must spare the rest of us the financial burden of perpetuating our society.
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Fryguy48 10y ago
Thats rough bro... im in a similar postion but im 21 and make jack shit.
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petricakerempuh 10y ago
What people fail to realize is that nobody "fucked" the system. It would've happened either way, regardless of what generation was in place. Society simply changed to optimize for the female sexual selection, dismantling nuclear family, religious ties and the moral fabric which kept hypergamy in check to optimize for other features. The woman in the article today indeed has a better choice to select her mates. Evolution doesn't give a shit about butthurt males unable to raise happy families and relive the lives of their parents. This is an inevitability. This happened for the better part of our species history. The cultural chains that we perceive as as "moral" protected against female hypergamy in favor of cultural strength and were able to harness the productive power of betas (who otherwise wouldn't have to compete for women) in order to defeat other civilizations. Now there are no more wars between civilizations, nations and culture, and that very fabric which give the West the competitive advantage is being torn to shreds. The same thing will happen to every other society. World peace will inevitably lead to the destruction of nuclear family, and the degradation of the evolutionary imperative from civilizational superiority to the female sexual choice. Yeah it's fucked up, but at least we have freedom now.
Another thing to note is that this is cyclical. The social degradation will strengthen divides along ideological, religious and tribal lines, causing more large-scale conflicts which will int turn strengthen the fabric of society to compete with other ideologies, religions, nations etc. You can see it today already - the most "progressive" country in the world Sweden is the global leader in per capita ISIS jihadists. And the sharia is very, very anti-hypergamy. When the survival of the group is at stake, nobody gives a shit about the female preference for mates.
Jimmy_Big_Nuts 10y ago
Agreed.
I see feminism and neoliberal capitalism as similar scourges on different scales. Both were accepted as near-universal orthodoxy by left and right. They are seen to transcend politics by most. Both I think are motivated by desire to grab power by stealth. Partly this is accidental, as pushy people push and over time the whole cliff face moves. Both are at crisis point. Those who run the global economy are robbing everyone and making society less equal, less meritocratic and less fair. Feminism has become toxic. Both ideologies are a cancer on society.
Women will always pine for a 20% man, no matter how equal and fair and just society is - but it's harder to tell apart winners and losers in a more equal fair society, it's easier to move up and down based on your actions rather than unfair luck like being born rich, and I think we'd all rather live in a meritocratic world where hard work and virtue does pay!
Therefore, in my eyes, the single biggest enemy to all men, including RP men, is the present dominant economic, political and social system, I.e., neoliberal capitalism. It co-opted feminism easily - to lower wages, to create more consumers, etc. Eroding the middle and lower classes. Destroying wealth and resources and asset stripping the public and the planet. Buisness interests are not the same as public interests. This shit is fucking men way more than feminism.
Capitalists love feminism because it doubles the available workforce, allows them to half wages, creates more consumers, draws attention away from shit that matters like unions, and instead directs it at petty bullshit gender equality window dressing.
But here is the double whammy; anti-capitalist lefties who get the economic stuff right still get feminism wrong - they like it because they support the oppressed (and women love playing the victim), and because historically feminism had a point (in the Victorian era), and it has taken until now for the negative aspects of feminism to become so chronic and acute that MRA's anti-feminists and TRP manifested. So I think it's time we saw more red pill socialists to work out how to fix the ills of modern society.
Modified_Hackware 10y ago
Which is precious few when we get down to it really. They'll always find a willing low value Beta to pay for their shit which exacerbates the problem.
leaftreeforest 10y ago
While it's an interesting proposition to pin the growing income inequality on feminism, I think it makes far and away more sense it's corporate influence on politics, and policies implemented by the wealthy to cater to the wealthy that has created such inequality. In addition to natural pro-monopoly trends, that is, if you're a successful company, it is easier to maintain and grow your success while knocking out less successful (smaller) competitors. Add to this restrictive regulations killing or keeping competitors out, and loopholes in our tax code and regulation of finance (which has gotten better). And then similar to how successful businesses find it easier to become even more successful, it is also easier for successful couples and families to keep growing their success and ensuring their children's success. Enrolling their kids in private schools, ensuring that they go to a top-tier college, and instilling in them the proper behavior and values, as well as connections, all lead to the rich staying rich. On the other side, the poor have to deal with their crime-ridden neighborhoods, drug laws that punish poor and minorities disproportionately, and the struggle to just make ends meet, instead of getting a good education to pave the way for a high-paying job.
And there are a ton of other reasons. The disappearance of manufacturing jobs and union jobs means it's tougher to find a well-paying job without a good STEM degree. Potentially corroding effects of welfare policies. The top executives siphoning away the profits away from the workers.
This seems like a more convincing reason for the growing wealth gap than feminism. It also aligns with how many countries that are experiencing high economic inequality also have terrible gender equality (China, Argentina). And how some countries with lower levels of economic inequality still have pretty progressive scores on gender equality (Scandinavian countries).
Baylien2 10y ago
I think this comment deserves its own thread.
fastball21 10y ago
I-Man, I hold you with high regard, but there's a few things at play here that you're missing. The middle-class is essentially a 20th Century baby, and it's a by-product of the two world wars. Two wars which removed millions of men from the global labour pool in successive generations; the Second World War doing the added favour of removing two industrial power houses (Germany and Japan) from global markets for a considerable time. Not only were they removed as competition, but massive amounts of labour and materials were required to rebuild them from the ground up.
The North American worker had a good generation and a half of almost global monopoly conditions for industrial production. This was reflected with the high and stable wages a man could earn, as his value went through the roof. Hence one income could support a wife, a brood and their own personal home. That monopoly has been gone for the last 30 years, and the U.S. labour market, national infrastructure conditions and debt levels have reflected those changes.
This monopoly window is what allowed feminism to truly unfurl its wings, as the need (and expectation) for a working wife as per pre-WWI was no longer necessary. This monopoly window is also what triggered the "hippie" culture in the '60s. It was the children raised in this labour vacuum acting in the same way as the feminists. That window is now gone, and instead of having invested that tremendous head start into true global leadership and innovation, it's been squandered. Massive national debts have been accumulated throughout Western countries in the past 30 years trying to maintain that wealth monopoly. In truth, what's left are the socially coddled fighting over the ever dwindling supply of musical chairs.
It is harder for young men today compared to 50 years ago. Men absorb the pain first in order to protect the women, as they have always done. But they can't and won't do this forever. When that pain works it way through the system to include both genders (as it's starting to) the social outcome will be an almost unrecognizable structure compared to our own childhoods. Imagine an isolated village in ancient times, suffering through starvation conditions. Stage 1 is the adults will cut off food to the children, knowing they can breed again when conditions improve. If conditions don't improve, Stage 2 is the men will abandon the women in order to save themselves, knowing their odds for survival are better when providing for just one person instead of two. Ask yourself if this behaviour sounds familiar in any way with social conditions we see brewing today.
Fryguy48 10y ago
Tell me more, im very interested
fastball21 10y ago
money = collectible time and energy. Every dollar that exists represents a unit of labour that was performed to create it. Accumulated wealth is a depository of past production, and the more you have, the more you can purchase current or future labour production.
Every political "ism" that is, has been and shall be: feminism, socialism, marxism, totalitarianism… are just footpaths leading us to the fields where we hunt currency. The key is the labour pool (men), the size of the pool determines its value. Whoever controls the behaviour of men, controls their value and gains access to a cut of their productivity.
Fryguy48 10y ago
hmm, interesting, i dont full understand; but this makes sense to me
fastball21 10y ago
I originally put up a longer post, then shortened it. Here was my original, long-winded answer.
As Old World societies moved past the bartering stage and into the creation of money, balances changed. In a New World Culture of currency and private property, asset accumulation was now possible. Consider an average North American Plains Indian before the Europeans arrived. Their primary diet was bison. Men had to travel dozens of miles on foot to get to the animals. They had to travel dozens of miles to pace, stalk and kill one. Groups of men had to expend considerable energy just to kill one animal. The Indians vaunted environmental reputation of using every part of the animal was nothing more than expediency. If you had to travel 50-100 miles to catch your dinner, then carve it up and haul a 2,000 lb. carcass back to the village, it's agreeable that you were going to find a use for pretty much everything you had to drag home. There was no incentive for a hunter to kill 50 animals, because he didn't have the means to benefit from killing any more than for personal needs. It made no sense to kill 50 buffalo if you could only butcher and bring home one. In this system, a tribe had no class structure based on wealth, no rich or poor. And no path to aspire for more.
With the existence of money came New World Cultures. With the existence of money you could now kill and butcher 50 buffalo, sell them off and carry home the currency in your coat pocket. What was constituted as success had changed. The man willing to risk debt to buy horses and wagons to bring 50 animals to market had an advantage over the man unwilling to take the risk. The man willing to sail across unknown oceans in search of silver, spices and gold had an advantage over the man unwilling. The man who was successful could carry in his wallet the equivalent labours of hundreds of men.
While the cliche says money is power, the underlying truth is that money is collectible time and energy. Every dollar that exists represents a unit of labour that was performed to create it. Accumulated wealth is a depository of past production, and the more you have, the more you can purchase current or future labour production. It’s possible now to kill a lifetime’s worth of livestock in a day, and hold that value in one hand. Economic disparity was born. The community tree now has more than one branch, and now has height. Both male and female eyes have looked higher and higher to see how far they can climb. Male power and female hypergamy are parts of the same greed, innate to our species as survival mechanisms.
Every political "ism" that is, has been and shall be: feminism, socialism, marxism totalitarianism… are just footpaths taking us to the fields where we hunt currency. The key is the labour pool (men). The money creators have a vested interest in controlling the behaviour of men, in order to control the hunt and to have access to their cut of the prize. The invention of money was one path for humankind to aspire for more. It isn't the root of all evil, but how we're using it comes pretty close.
Fryguy48 10y ago
This, opened up a whole new out look on things... wow.
a_scourge 10y ago
http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/minimalism-threat.html
Evolved_Red 10y ago
Its shit like this app, the unearned entitlement of women, that's quickly driving western civilisation to what had happened in Japan. 'Lower' class men, i.e. not in the 20%, i.e. almost everyone else of the male population, it's eventually going to get fed up with this shit and not even try worth women. Hell we've already got a MGTOW. Most men are not here in Trp, most will never know how to combat this paradigm.
Look to Japan folks. That's our future.
vakerr 10y ago
Historically societies where young men had no future turned violent and warlike. Young women can always use sex to make a living. What young men can always use is violence, so that's what they turn to in the desperate attempt at success and reproduction. Plan accordingly.
Bulldog44 10y ago
Exactly, and considering how well armed Americans are, holy shit guys. Shit might get very real very soon.
Short-Guy 10y ago
The only problem is that the western world is very different from Japan. The Japanese people are raised to be blindly obedient. We allow immigrants from 3rd world countries who are connected to crime. We will never become Japan. Instead, We will probably see organizations like ISIS continue to grow and even see them gain lands in places such as Africa and Europe. Even worse, we could see a surge of violence as the 80% continue to lose both jobs and family. The conditions are setting up for another world war. Expect to see a real rape culture within a couple of decades
zephyrprime 10y ago
Dude, the western world has exactly the same friggin problem. Look at the birthrates in all of western europe. Bet you didn't know the birthrate among whites and asians in the US is below replacement rate too. We just haven't noticed yet because we have a lot of immigration.
Yeah I expect organizations like ISIS to grow also.
Evolved_Red 10y ago
I'm talking about the attempted desexualisation of the 'normal' man, not talking about the state of the union.
Short-Guy 10y ago
Men will never be desexualized no matter what feminists do. Even in Japan, prostitution is common and organized criminals such as the yakuza make millions trafficking girls into Japan.
drallcom3 10y ago
Once technology can sufficiently take care of our sexual needs, society will change dramatically. It has already started with the high speed internet (porn).
SpeakNoTruths 10y ago
"... the withering away if the state may be one thing, [but] the withering away of the penis [is] quite another." Christopher Hitchens
csmass 10y ago
I see a revolt in the future, and rightfully so. You can't sell your children and grandchildren out without paying for it somehow. Personally, I hope a majority of the baby fuckers die soon. I hate most of them with a passion. Everyone with half a brain knows they sold us out, and half of the POS's blew all their money on stupid shit and are now broke still working. Still working! What the fuck...? Worthless POS generation that was the true coddled generation.
djvita 10y ago
ah most baby boomers are 70 give it 20 years for most to pass then our parents will inherit, and the cycle will continue, they already cut pensions for their children. i doubt in 2050 there will be 9B people, half the population is above 40, they are not all gonna live to 80--90 and wisely most of us will not have not even two children so replacement pop will not be possible.
this next decade willl suck but once millenials reach 35-40 to positions of power in politics, biz etc we may turn it around and call off the debts grandpa made us carry.
averageredditor123 10y ago
No, the people with the highest political offices will always be sociopaths, regardless of the generation.
vakerr 10y ago
Only in the west, which is the target of mass immigration by unskilled people from violent societies.
djvita 10y ago
yep, the aging population
csmass 10y ago
I am having my doubts. The reason being, we have too many women in power. Women have no clue how to run things, and most men in my generation are just a shell of a boy. They are not capable of running a country and bringing back the strength of this nation (USA). Combine that with the fact the Generation X'ers are doing the same shit the boomers did, and we have a small chance of digging out of this mess without a revolt. Not that I don't want to believe in my generation, but a group of people where a majority of its women are whores, degenerates, and ignorant of their own biology is not a group I would want to run things. It's not even a group I would want around me, and this is just the women!
GreatWhite_Buffalo 10y ago
...do you really think that the men in power in the US are doing a good job?
Ovadox 10y ago
Who votes for those men in power?
ShekelBanker 10y ago
I just hope Hillary won't be voted in, or else the decline speeds up a thousand-fold. As much as I am sadistic to see it happen, first of all I am reluctant to see it happen to others who are RP, then to me, we'll all get equally fucked as men.
rpkarma 10y ago
No he doesn't, hence his last sentence.
foldpak111 10y ago
We can also expect nuclear war from North Korea within the next 50 years. I'm excited about the chaos to be honest. The world needs this cleansing before we destroy it.
trplurker 10y ago
No.
DPRK doesn't have anywhere near the capability for any sort of war. They have next to zero strategic assets and all their tactical assets are outdated, under supplied and obsolete. The real purpose of their military is to prevent their population from revolting. The only country the DPRK presents a serious threat to is ROK (South Korea) and only due to proximity, it doesn't take much technology or time for an artillery piece to hit it's target when that target doesn't move and the artillery is already aimed at it. The ROK's military is more then sufficient to prevent and even defeat a DPRK invasion. Hell the ROK could even invade the DPRK and win with low causalities, that is how poorly equipped / trained the North Korean military is. That outcome is the whole reason the North is seeking a nuclear weapon, not as an offensive tool but as a way to guarantee that nobody invades and topples their despotic government.
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trplurker 10y ago
That is why China deployed a shit load of troops along their side of the border. They don't want them coming across the border and the southern border is the most heavily mined / patrolled / guarded border in the world. Samsung even built automated sentry turrets for the ROK military and placed them all along the border. Usually they are manually operated by remote (they have regular, IR and NV cameras) but they have an automated mode where they just shoot anything moving in their firing arc.
foldpak111 10y ago
Right, right. I've watched a bunch of North Korean documentaries and do keep the population in a dur state to keep them from revolting. Not to mention they get education and medical care from other countries.
trplurker 10y ago
The "documentaries" are mostly bullshit and tiptoe around whats really going on here. This is pretty much the worst place on the planet, if you disagree with the government and someone finds out, you and your family are sent to forced labor camps where your work until you can no longer stand. Then then change your job and you work laying down until you can no longer move your arms, then the move you to the side and you die of starvation, or one of the guards takes pity and shots you in the head. The guards rape the females, regardless of age, and if one of them gets pregnant she's publicly executed.
That government has 100% absolute total control over it's population, everything is property of the government, there is no private property. Everything at schools is bullshit and not remotely real, complete fabrications and lies but since the government has total control of all communication the majority of the population doesn't know any different. They all are taught that evil western countries, Japan and their race traitor allies (that's South Korea) take all the food and are constantly attacking North Korea and that only valiant efforts by their supreme leader / dear leader / government keep them all alive and away from the slavery that is capitalism.
The amount of power and control that government has would make any progressive giddy with anticipation. They would all say "If only we had that kind of power in my country, we could end all the civil unrest, income inequality, racial hatred and political strife. We would never abuse it like those other bad guys who had the exact same goals as us".
Anyway, their military is dilapidated and poorly maintained even though they pour all their national resources into it. Their isolationist mentality (to keep evil capitalism and materialistic influences away from their population) keeps them from moving into the modern age, while their Southern Counterpart is prosperous and extremely wealthy. They pose no strategic threat to a modern military, but since the heavily populated capital of their southern counterpart is within artillery range, they can hold a gun to the heads of 11 million people and demand money and concessions.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
All I hear is "Waaaah waaaah waaaaah! Shit is HARD ! Waaaaah! I want it all on a plate !"
If you're too far from the top 20% then get off your flabby arse and work to improve yourself. When you do this, you will not need to work for women they will come to you.
Or you can sit there and cry like a MGTOW baby, and live a miserable long life, lamenting what might have been.
Bulldog44 10y ago
There are other options, there was a post just the other day about surrogacy, men with jobs and no women to waste their money can go that route if they just don't want to play the game. I'll chase women for sure, but when I am ready to procreate, that's the route I'm going.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
Get good enough, and they'll chase you. They will fight and claw each others eyes out if you are really good.
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tedted8888 10y ago
IDK man, sure theres gonna be good looking guys which are great on tinder, but picking up a woman in real life? Thats a whole diffrent skillset. What man of value wants a tramp who rides the CC from guy to guy on online sites? Honestly I really think to get into the top 20% of men is just having standards and not caving. How many men do you know who are willing to walk away from a girl?
RU_Crazy 10y ago
You might think this is crazy but I think eventually its going to be social taboo to pick a stranger up in public. Rape culture etc.
The new "safe" paradigm is going to be where women are taught to screen out men in a virtual setting before meeting them in public.
tedted8888 10y ago
So talking to ppl in public is gonna be banned?!?! LOL get off ur computer and go meet someone
RU_Crazy 10y ago
Not any time soon. But I can imagine a future where flirting with strangers will be viewed as weird. We're certainly moving in that direction.
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Azora 10y ago
That all sounds a lot like what's happening with the young men in japan.
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bitches_be_crazy86 10y ago
Oh come on this isn't serious. It's not going to get enough market share. It's sensational because it's assumed to be elitist. Do women come with a veterinary certificate ? If anything this is going to put all the restrictions on men and give free access to women - that's not what they say in the description but it sure will work like this.
redpillspeeddate 10y ago
The app is very girl heavy at the moment, but its heavily filtered, so there is no SIF's no ugly girls. So if you can make it in its great. The only issue you have to deal with is high SMV girl entitlement.
KarmaEnthusiast 10y ago
Who cares? This isn't a gossip section of reddit last I checked. This is about creating a mindset in which you are the best male you can be.
By the way technology isn't going to destroy the dating market for low SMV men. The best way is and always will be IN PERSON.
Even mentioning this app anywhere or giving it more than 30 seconds thought is more than it deserves.
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This is social Darwinism of dating.
DaphneDK 10y ago
There are already several such services. Amazing that they can raise that amount of money for an old concept. beautifulpeople.com; elitedaters.com. There's also such a "elite" service where women with long education come to seek out men with a similar high education. Men in general just don't put the same emphasis on the educational level of partners, so it's rather loopsided. Thing is, what other people consider elite is no guarantee you find elite.
Pointless_Endeavors 10y ago
There's no algorithm. It's her and her team looking for alphas. It's alpha's and (clearly) wealthy beta's only.
All women can join.
Zanford 10y ago
Agreed. Especially if it's run by a woman with a sales and MBA background, the app is unlikely to be very technically sophisticated (even tho she has some beta programmers keeping it running; I doubt this gal wrote a single line of its source code). They way it probably works is as follows:
Basically any woman can get on as long as her profile mentions a college degree
So basically it will be the same as Tinder except it will make most guys drop out faster. Which is actually not a terrible thing; they will save time, and the alphas (and their harems) will be able to use it more efficiently.
In theory I don't think the app is so terrible an idea (as morally hypocritical as it may be). However it will not succeed, but it will not get the details right, and it has incompetent leadership: a bangable young-ish woman with zero technical skills who will end up sucking a few VC cocks, both literally and metaphorically, before giving up and becoming the trophy wife of some Silicon Valley middle manager.
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dakkr 10y ago
Even if there was an algorithm, all you do is lie and you get around it. What's to stop me saying i'm 6'5" with a 14 inch dick, a 7 figure salary, 4 olympic gold medals, and a nobel peace prize?
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ioncloud9 10y ago
I love it when 2s, 3s, and 4s think they deserve 7s, 8s, and 9s.
studiov34 10y ago
In San Francisco, another definition for a 49er is a woman who is a 4 and thinks she's a 9.
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Bulldog44 10y ago
Make sure to shame the next faggot you see with one of those 2's, 3's and 4s then, because they're perpetuating that shit.
On second thought, leave em to it.
Mattpilf 10y ago
What "faggot" are you talking about. Gays know if your unattractive, you can't reach for the ripe fruit. Why else would they be hypervigilant about their physical appearencs?
Bulldog44 10y ago
not faggots as in gays, faggots as in faggots.
putsch80 10y ago
Awesome. Hope it fills up with those 260 lb 5'6" BBWs that are looking for a "REAL MAN".
t21spectre 10y ago
It will be. Eventually they will filter them out.
I really don't see this app lasting very long, just another tinder knockoff. It also will have gold-digger written all over it. The high status men deemed worthy will use it for fuck and chucks just like tinder and other dating websites.
sociosexualstatus 10y ago
Holy shit haha I can't fucking stop laughing you made my day God dammit
foldpak111 10y ago
http://youtu.be/Zqb7mPHphxg
Steve_Wiener 10y ago
That clip deserves a TRP case study/thread.
Baylien2 10y ago
I can tell you right now all the hosts knew that his wife is low SMV and they smell blood....
foldpak111 10y ago
Let's do it then. Ask an endorsed member or a long time poster to do a case study. I grew up with Lost so i'd geek out on it haha
Hughtub 10y ago
He has all of that potential (perfect frame and looks) and throws it away on some ordinary looking asian woman! Haha. I wouldn't trade places with his situation for anything. He failed. Utterly failed.
Them shopping
foldpak111 10y ago
The guy is 10/10 in looks no homo. In lost he's got that Daniel Craig sexy rugged look, then that interview he's a straight up model. All that potential.
Hughtub 10y ago
Yep, but his woman is nothing special. I just don't get it.
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Claude_Reborn 10y ago
no, but the closer you are to it, the better things will be.
That's like saying "well I can't be a billionaire, so I won't even try and be a millionaire."
You might not crack the top 20% due to various factors beyond your control (like height) but there is pride in getting the best you can be.
Yeah, I spent most of my 20's as a tubby beta, but I have vastly improved in my 30's and already I am seeing the difference.
e_n_t_r_0_p_y 10y ago
Cannot agree more with your edit. Seriously, get your shit together. Put in a minimal amount of work and you'll outdo the vast the majority of the planet who are merely existing.
foldpak111 10y ago
I had class today and just walking around campus exposed me to how mediocre the average guy is. Got motherfuckers walking around in xl t shirts, oversized khakis, DC court shoes and fucked up skin. A couple alpha's here and there but the competition is seriously scarce.
RobA2345 10y ago
"I'm in my late 30's and I am still rebuilding my body, mind and career so I can spend my 40's smashing 20 yr olds with a "silver fox" fetish."
What the fuck? Get a high class escort/hooker, probably cleaner, cheaper and a lot less fucking hassle and put time into something worthwhile,
The juice isn't worth the squeeze and you just sound like an absolute twat with that rant.
Self improve by all means but for Tinder pussy, it's just sad.
RobA2345 10y ago
Also no-one in their late 30s talks like that, you sound like an early 20s, low value beta man masquerading as an alpha. "I'm Red Pill Bro" wah wah wah
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
Well I am self improving for my own sake, the pussy is just an added benefit. I am back getting my bachelors + masters at uni right now so I am already around a lot of 20 ish women so Tinder isn't required.
I'll be at uni for the next few years so may as well make the most of it.
Yeah escorts are an option but at 400-500 an hour for a good one, It's easy to pick up naive uni girls, and cheaper too.
RobA2345 10y ago
You'll never see me knocking a man for self-improvement.
Also hookers are degrading for men I get that, I just don't see the difference in this case where women are using their filtering to such an efficient degree to as to extract maximum value out of a man. It has to come to a point where we look at the cost benefit like they are and conclude that there is no difference between a hooker and these women.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
The rant was more aimed at the "hurr durrr mgtow!" types that seem to be infesting this sub like fleas.
Yeah most of us won't be top tier due to genetics but that is no reason not to better yourself for the sheer hell of it.
I feel younger and more energetic that i have since my 20s. So many of the mgtow crowd fail to understand that if you build yourself, the women will flock to you.
They never get out of the chasing women mindset, because they never truly adopt red pill theory. They just pretend to, then whine when it doesn't work.
They are akin to fatties who exercise for a month then bitch about no progress, all the while still cramming icecream into their faces. You can't pick and choose with trp. It's all or nothing.
TekkomanKingz 10y ago
Escorts don't cost 400-500 not even in the EU...
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
They do down here in Australia, I mean the good ones do.
I could go cheaper.... but they get older and uglier when you do that.
TekkomanKingz 10y ago
That sucks bro just take a boat trip to Polynesia up north or something...
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
Meh I am at uni surrounded by women starting at 18yrs old. These days I have no need to pay.
So many girls have an "older man" thing it makes it almost embarrassingly easy to bed them, so long as you are slightly above average in fitness and not a beta bitch. :D
dickholedoug 10y ago
Good. Survival of the fittest has been out of the main stage for too long.
dsldragon 10y ago
hack her dating site so she and her prissy friends are constantly set up on dates with Ralph the angry trashman and his crew of malcontents
Zanford 10y ago
"The app has paired 20,000 people, resulting in 19 couples."
So less than 1 in 500 matches leads to a 'couple'? So it's either crappy, or is just useful for ONSes. Like Tinder.
What will happen is guys will learn how to game the app by creating (fake) Facebook profiles (as many already do for Tinder) that claim they went to an Ivy school where they were on the crew team, and now work at some Fortune 500 company, and enjoy yatching.
The men on the app will be a mix of savvy, hot harem-keeper guys (like on Tinder but with higher IQs and more social-media engineering) and wealthy betas who get used by aforementioned harem-girls for free dinners.
Nerf_Circus 10y ago
The thing is these are the types of men that don't need a dating app. They have women the only couples are BB's who don't have a social life.
tsotha 10y ago
I don't see the big deal. Women are already eliminating 80% of the guys on Tinder. This just allows them to be a little more efficient.
calky 10y ago
What if women then eliminate 80% of the men from this app? Then we left with 4% of men enjoying the new app. 80% are screened out based on technology and 16% are screened out by women being selective.
tsotha 10y ago
I doubt they'll need to. Despite the "there's somebody for everybody" propaganda, unless the screeners are idiots the men they let through will be mostly acceptable.
I wonder if part of the business plan is to sell access to men. You should do better if women think you've been pre-screened by other women.
UnamusedPunk 10y ago
Don't prescribe to social media. You will always have the upper hand as a male if you just go up to the girls you want in public and seduce them.
edit: Furthermore, I don't have the space mentally to worry about taking picture of every damn thing I do thats cool, nor the time to worry about posting it online in a way that's appealing. Do you think Steve Job's needed this app or had an instagram? fuck no and I don't think he every would.
Waldo00 10y ago
The only thing that'll happen is entitled bitches will be even more pissed when they get used for sex by top tier alphas and betas will continue to be mercilessly used.
RP_on_TV 10y ago
It's an app for preselection.
Yeah man, my first reaction was not whining.
It was "fuck yeah! I got a cool job, I lift and am always trying to improve, I got panty-dropping talents I practice at, and am slowly raising my SMV every day. This could work."
cover20 10y ago
And I think it will be equally competitive on the female side, with usually intra-female bitchiness thrown in. You could offer to put in a good word for a woman if she'll sleep with you. All sorts of strategic possibilities here.
Zachar1a 10y ago
This will fail, because their criteria for selecting men will just be what women say they are attracted to, not what they are really attracted to. I can already imagine a bunch of women sitting around a conference table, describing to each other the perfect Blue Pill nice guy.
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redpillspeeddate 10y ago
The app works both sides, I have not seen a single fattie on it, which in SF is a milestone.
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sleezay 10y ago
They already have that. It's call the 7th. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2912589/Measure-MEMBERship-Applicants-want-join-exclusive-new-club-prove-manhood-SEVEN-inches-long.html
Baylien2 10y ago
It's called Craigslist Casual Encounters
exthemius 10y ago
Or perhaps a 6's app where you can filter based on the three 6's: 6 or more feet in height, 6" or more penis or 6 or more figure salary.
ringostardestroyer 10y ago
I was thinking about this. Having all three 6s guarantees you a 6/10 at least.
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kick6 10y ago
But 3" is covered up by a fat pad.
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tedted8888 10y ago
Smaller markets mean less costumers... It will fizzle out.
TK-85 10y ago
Facebook would be dead today if they didn't make the smart decision to not be college only.
Hughtub 10y ago
Doubt it. The demand for high quality never ceases.
tedted8888 10y ago
I cant find it but a while back someone had a "top 10 hottest women on okcupid" or something like that. About 5 were hot and few were fattie SJW types. A site like this is going to attract the fat SJW type women. All the "hot" women will still have no trouble attracting men in real life and online. In fact the'll probably be meeting higher quality men IRL than online. Site will die because of the volume of low quality women.
cock_pussy_up 10y ago
Honestly, I don't have a problem with this. I think anyone can choose whoever they want. Even if these women wouldn't have sex with me, there's another couple hundred million 18-25 year olds out there to choose from.
I just laugh when I see women with sky high demands of potential partners. If I'm not what they're looking for, oh well, there are a couple other hundred million to try my luck with.
If they can find what they say they want, good for them. If they can't, oh well, too bad for them.
Yokep 10y ago
Two Shark Tank episodes ago there was a pitch from three Korean women with Ivy league educations for a dating app.
The thing is, this league app is supposed to also filter out women as well.
Now, I always say that if a girl lacks confidence, all she needs to do is create an online dating profile and she'll get all the attention and confidence she needs.
It's all just utter nonsense. Last night at the bar, a 3/10 approached me and after 15 minutes of conversation said, "What? You don't want this pussy?" ... I replied, "No thank you." and she still had the gall to put her business card in my back pocket. The whole situation had me feeling alpha and beta all within a few minutes.
What is this world coming to?
whatisinausername_ 10y ago
This will fail.
It's girls looking for their beta bux.
This is an app that the Ivy, or at least a top tier college, educated woman can, after having already rode the cock carousel, pick and choose a beta suitor with money and status.
Just because someone ends up with a high level career doesn't mean that they're alpha. How many girls out there would fuck a known felon as long as he gave that gina some tingles? Most of 'em, that's who.
I was pissed about this at first, but after reading the article I know it won't work.
Girls are telling the app what they think they want, but we all know that what they say they want isn't what they actually want.
Yeah, some people may end up getting married off this, but they'll end up divorced after the chick has her kids and secures beta bucks' cash.
Ain't worried.
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Thirsty, thirsty betas. Fucking appalling. They weren't eager to invest, they were eager to buy their way into her pussy, or if they're women, they must be in serious need of a beta bux.
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I work in Silicon Valley and I'm here to say: it's worse than you think. Angel investors and VCs are well connected finance guys who couldn't hack it in NY. They're literally the rejects and losers of the financial system come west to make their mark using the old boy network.
whatisinausername_ 10y ago
Sounds amazing.
I'm sending a hot blonde to ask for the cash if I ever need investors.
fiat_lux_ 10y ago
What? Angel investors can be from anywhere. The last several I remember meeting were Egyptians, Ukrainians, and Russians.
Alex_is_not_on_fire 10y ago
lmao good one, you should tell that to Doug Leone
JohnGalt316 10y ago
you guys need to calm your beards. no alphas are going to pick these women over what they normally get.
lost it at the example "senior designer at slate." no guy with options is going to pick these girls.
every top tier guy knows a ton of girls like these. they come from wealthy families, but didn't do shit with their opportunities.
if i wanted a girl like them, i don't need an app to get them. trust me, there is plenty of this kind of matchmaking going around in charity dinners.
Dev_on 10y ago
I'm sure it will do as well as the other app, where men don't get photos until women give them, and aren't allowed to message women etc
useyourmouth 10y ago
lol...her vacant smile and soulless eyes say it all. she feasted through college and now seeks to harness technology to filter out more of that tasty alpha cock.
frequentlywrong 10y ago
Now thats a thousand cock stare.
Bulldog44 10y ago
Let her have it, really this sort of thing does men a favor, those with a brain in their head looking for a quality woman should know that a woman on tinder or this sort of app is just simply not good for anything but fuckin and chuckin.
cock_pussy_up 10y ago
She's gone Gollum for the precious alpha cock.
maximus_gladiator 10y ago
Let be honest... this app will probably go nowhere if it was strictly coded by women lol.
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Homie, you honestly think this woman is going to have to do any of the work?
Just imagine her mentioning this idea to some programmers in her harem of orbiters.
Bocaj6487 10y ago
Tinder already filters out the bottom 80%
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MGTOW_player 10y ago
The karma will be repaid...infinitely...when viable sex robots/VR technology is released.
Females are about to have a much harder time than men in life when that day comes.
cock_pussy_up 10y ago
Old Palmella Handerson always worked well enough for me.
Nerf_Circus 10y ago
They will shame you relentlessly for using a robot.
Personally, sex is 90% psychological for me, 10% physical stimulation.
MGTOW_player 10y ago
Listening to a woman's shame does a man no good.
thepillwastaken 10y ago
I wouldn't sit around waiting for that day. It could be a while, if ever and you will miss out on a lot.
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MGTOW is not defeatist, it's simply living by your own terms, and also learning to live without this addiction to pussy. That's right, it's an addiction.
pl231 10y ago
Who would partake in this though? Like why do I give a fuck if a chick is accomplished. I don't get tingles from her curing cancer or starting her own company. I get a boner from her being hot, being a good cook, giving good BJs and doing shit around the house. Career chicks are generally pretty shitty for all of those things, seeing as they have, a career.
That's what I don't get about these dudes that care about the status of women so much, it's like being gay in a way. I want to fuck a chick, not another dude who does all the same shit as me (making money, etc). I don't think less of the chick if she only has a HS diploma, if she can fuck, cook and clean she's going to be higher on my list than some PhD who does nothing around the house.
cooltrip 10y ago
So that frog-faced blonde wants to make an elite Tinder? The fuck? Freud would love to live in this Internet era.
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Of course, it's made for iOS.
BlackHeart89 10y ago
This won't really ruin the game for anyone. The roles in the dating apps will be reversed. The men will become very picky because so many women will go after them. They won't take anything under a 7. Most probably won't take anything lower than an 8.
It may even level out the playing field. Who knows.
Also, plenty of women believe that men on apps only want to fuck. Women enjoy fucking as well. But they primarily want someone to commit to them. If she's on an app, she's down to just fuck. But many won't even remain on the app for a week before deleting it. Even if thats not the case, a lot of women are just uncomfortable with meeting people online.
No concern coming from me.
j-pHil 10y ago
This will actually make it harder for everybody. I'll explain. Women seek the best genes in what ever group they are in. Meaning the alpha in a small tribe or village could potentially be a beta in a lager settting. Big fish small pond. If all the talent is concentrated in one space, women's strategy won't change only the difficulty level for men. Things like urbanization and social media have consolidated us into larger groups where more and more men have to compete while women chose the best. Dating apps are just the next step in the process. Remember only the top percent of any group is getting laid.
aguy01 10y ago
"The app has paired 20,000 people resulting in 19 couples."
It's funny how women think their economic status makes them equal to these men. These girls think that because of their degrees they can be more than just a pump and dump to these guys. The reality is these guys are going to be milking almost all of these 'successful' girls. Because of the differences in male and female SMV, the only ones kept will be the extremely hot ones who actually have SMV that is suitable for these guys.
redpillspeeddate 10y ago
Most of the girls on it are pretty damn hot, I haven't seen less than a 7 on it.
MagicJuggler 10y ago
Reminds me a bit about how Luxy had caused a splash with "Online dating - without the poor people!".
It's going to be hilarious seeing what workarounds exist to game the system.
TK-85 10y ago
I don't see how this will be an alpha's dream at all. Based on the OPs comments, he doesn't have a whole lot of success with online dating, because he isn't attractive or whatever.
Somehow he has come to a NAWALT conclusion that just because these women are on this so-called Elite Tinder app, that they won't follow the same rules that they do on basic Tinder. If you don't have a lot of luck with online dating now, this won't be the silver bullet.
Honestly this isn't a new concept, this filter process. A lot of the pay to play dating sites do the same things and you don't hear about all these alphas claiming all sorts of victories on those, nor about this mystical, mythical women regularly pursuing. Besides, the elite college educated women isn't necessarily above a 5 rating.
This app will likely die due to low volume and traffic.
KidStrangelove 10y ago
Thanks OP for posting this, just signed up in NYC. Lets see where this goes
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kick6 10y ago
you must be doing the utterly wrong shit if the list of shit you need to do doesn't also increase your SMV. What are you doing, playing 16 hours of WoW a day?
DirectEdge 10y ago
I just....I just can't even. Whatever happened to meeting people organically?
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
That's what the rest of us do. Meetup.com is fantastic for meeting people with similar interests.
Apps are for the beautiful people because each person is judging the other on looks. If you are of average looks, never bother with online dating.
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RojoEscarlata 10y ago
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Bitches cannot even into math. That's way below that a 1% of the people who got matched actually got together as a couple (whatever the criteria of couple is)
This taking into account that this is “curated"as that cunt calls it, and the only requirement for a woman to enter is pretty much having a vagina will create a huge disparity in numbers.
It'll be fun seeing it crash and burn.
Matsew 10y ago
or hoards of post wall career cunts trying to lock you down via this app depending on how it turns out;D
Transmigratory 10y ago
Truth be told, when you've shagged enough times you realise you'd probably want to shag someone whose intellect doesn't make you feel dumb. Of course, they have to be hot.
Apps like this aren't that bad, imo. Plus if you actually can use this app, you get bet your ass that all the finest poon is most likely to lust for you.
clear-sight 10y ago
Women are the worst at pimping inequality, and blame men for the world's woes. In the UK the woman credited for getting women the vote only wanted it for the female rich elite, not all women. That is conveniently forgotten by feminists. This shit doesn't surprise me. What more forgotten by them is the majority of non-land owning men didn't have the vote either.
With regard to this app there is a well worn story:
"A man asks a woman if she would be willing to sleep with him if he pays her an exorbitant sum. She replies affirmatively. He then names a paltry amount and asks if she would still be willing to sleep with him for the revised fee. The woman is greatly offended and replies as follows:
She: What kind of woman do you think I am?
He: We’ve already established that. Now we’re just haggling over the price."
redpillspeeddate 10y ago
I'm in the League, I know Amanda, and she actually gets it. Yes this app feeds hypergamy but so does every online dating one. The women in it are by far the best looking in San Francisco and they have their shit together for the most part.
The best thing about the app is actually the events. Due to the fact it has only high value men (I am fortunate to have put the work into being one) the ratios at their events is shooting fish in a barrel. The christmas party they were part of was 6-1 girl to guy ratio which in SF is unheard of.
The app is great if you can get in, if not... well work harder, improve your career and lift. Happy to answer any questions on it as I have been working to make it better.
watersign 10y ago
It's going to be funny when the feminists start callling her "shitlord", "able-ist" and "class-ist" .. .lllol
DoxasticPoo 10y ago
I hate to be "that guy".... but this is not reality. It's not mathematically possible. Not EVERY-MAN can be in the top 20%, therefore not EVERY-MAN can reap the glory of said work...
I think it's important to accept that maybe, just maybe, some people may not make it there. TRP puts a lot of energy into the top 20%, either what's it's like to be there or what's required to get there.
But what about everyone else? What about those within the 80% who aren't feminist/betas? What's their sexual strategy?
slcjosh 10y ago
If men tried this, can you imagine the backlash?
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That app is made for both gender, check out their page.
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slcjosh 10y ago
Pump the breaks homie. Love the initiative. But you seem to have your self situated. Don't worry about everyone else. We all know how this would end up.
SQQQ 10y ago
why not just make it a paid subscription? that will get rid of the 80% in no time. ez pz
Evolved_Red 10y ago
Has someone created a 'thin, hot women' app yet? I'm sure its socially acceptable!
redpilltom 10y ago
With most of these things, I used to not get angry at the fact that this existed as it did make sense, but that the fact that the literal reverse would be considered extremely sexist and the target of multiple women's rights campaigns.
Now, of course, it's all just another grain of sand on the beach of female solipsism (when it helps me, it's logical and understandable; when it hurts me, it's evil) and hypergamy evidence.
redpillspeeddate 10y ago
I actually am in the League and "thin, hot women" is pretty much what it is. It works both sides. The app is very female heavy and their events are 6-1 girl to guy ratio. Basically if you can make it in, its really good :)
ben0wn4g3 10y ago
You have to question the motivations. Why would thin hot women want to use this?
Also why would the 'top 20% alpha' men want to use an app that filters out the weak competition?
blacwidonsfw 10y ago
Ill make one. Dont need 2m in seed funding either, just give me a few hours on my computer.
nrjk 10y ago
Find a female to take credit thereby boosting your marketability while deflecting cries of sexism and only ask for 1 million in seed money. A few hours on a computer sounds like a good deal.
Misterlulz 10y ago
Yeah, why does she even need 2 mil to make this app anyway?
parrotfish7 10y ago
With a good pitch for efficacy and how you'd gain users, I'd invest.
Bulldog44 10y ago
Seriously, name it No Fat Bitches.
blacwidonsfw 10y ago
I like it. Want to be head of marketing?
Bulldog44 10y ago
Haha, I wonder how long before android or apple took the app down.
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Claude_Reborn 10y ago
Shouldn't be too hard.
enter height, weight, age, upload pic and ask a few RP screening questions.
Anyone where Age > 26 gets sent to dev/null
anyone who's BMI is too high gets sent to dev/null
Has kids or won't answer that question ? ... dev/null
You could filter pretty damn well with just those parameters
rockumsockumrobots 10y ago
Ooh this! I want an app that screens out crazy bitches.
Philhelm 10y ago
That's called a homosexual dating site (all bitches are crazy).
blandboringusername 10y ago
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JovianTrainWreck 10y ago
If I agreed any harder, I would shit myself.
Not sure how one would filter out crazy though. Maybe a "red flag alert" from other users.
rockumsockumrobots 10y ago
Agreed. No option for "has kids." Also, no options for "Bi." In my opinion, that's either a cry for attention to be an extra special snowflake (beyond the usual) or a signal that she has some deep seated issues.
themightyfludd 10y ago
What's wrong with people putting bi? Maybe they're open to dates from both genders.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
Oh fuck.. you could adapt the DSM 4 for the diagnosis of "Cluster B" personality disorder" and you could do some excellent filtering on that alone.
BPD's and NPD's could be purged pretty accurately.
drrtyfrrnr 10y ago
The problem is that the hot ones are disproportionately crazy (leaving aside the Tumblr SJW crowd).
pl231 10y ago
you need to spend some time with the hot-crazy matrix
rockumsockumrobots 10y ago
I have no idea what you just said, but if I ever make a dating app, I'll make sure that's one of the features, haha.
would you happen to have a link to an article where I can read about this psychological profiling? Or whatever you'd call it.
spasticfox 10y ago
Narcissistic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder is npd and bpd they're personality disorders kinda/can be related to mental illness
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
Google dsm IV and look up cluster b personality disorders
Most of the crazy girls are undiagnosed cluster b women
rockumsockumrobots 10y ago
So it's not hormones, "all his fault", "the patriarchy" or misogyny afterall, it's just B/H/N/APD. Huh, whoda thunk it?
WRXminion 10y ago
Right.... Because women never lie, especially about weight.
cherrypoptart27 10y ago
Actually if you're adept enough at software you can use machine vision and analysis to determine if they're thin or not. That's what I would do
garlicextract 10y ago
It's not like you couldn't just "dislike" the photo...
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
They can add a " fat girl " report button or "she's lying is really fat " report
chillmonkey88 10y ago
Spit my water out asshole lol...
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
Think how much better dating apps would be with a "fat chick" reporting button !
Swipe left for no, swipe left for yes, swipe down for "Fatty!"
You would have to have your account to be "fatty enabled" in case your some sort of chubby chaser.
CrimsonDeep 10y ago
I'm sure there is a way to sort out the secret internet fattie Myspace angle shots with an algorithm that'll automatically flag a profile with them. Also flag profiles with nothing but pictures of their pets if this so were ever to exist.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
yeah, or you could just farm it out to the community at large, and have some sort of reporting score.
They accrue too many "fat points" they get purged and banned from the system. Of course you'd have to limit to males voting because females would false report anyone hotter than them and you'd see fatties going on a mass report rampage because they are jealous vengeful butter snorters.
systemshock869 10y ago
Almost spit out my coffee xD
WRXminion 10y ago
I'm confused.... What does liking a picture have to do with creating an dating site based on a RP algorithm? My point was: short of an employee checking each submission personally there are going to be higher then advertised BMI's as woman lie about their weight. So it won't be as simple as the parent post was making it sound...
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
which is why you fuzz the back end to add a % to BMI to allow for lying. If you figure out how much the average women lies about BMI, you tweak it based on that.
WRXminion 10y ago
Yea, but now your paying programmers to code and researchers to figure out the %. Have to pay for surveys, and focus groups with buffets. It can't be as simple as a %. I'm sure woman who are in better shape will lie less, and some not at all. So now you have to hire mathematicians to figure out the best equation. Then you get the woman sueing because the algorithms excluded them, and we got to hire a team of lawyers.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
Ok cupid has already done those sort of metrics for you
So don't host it in the fucking US. Simple solution.
WRXminion 10y ago
Didn't know when this turned into a full blown debate......
1) that's okcupids IP, and unless its open source, would open you up to more lawsuits.
2) where? Which country? What jurisdiction in said country? Do we just host the servers there or do we incorporate there? Do we have to hire an agent in that jurisdiction? Would we have to reside outside the US in order to avoid personal civil recourse? Will there be barriers to entry in said country: tax, bribes etc..All these questions require research. Unless you're an international lawyer with specific focus is web law I don't trust your opinion to keep my assets and freedom safe. So we would still need to pay a lawyer, and probably keep one on retainer. Its not as simple as just host the site outside the US.
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averageredditor123 10y ago
It's all relative to environment, so instead of a girl skipping through 100 losers to find one awesome guy, she's just gonna skip through 100 awesome guys to find one really awesome guy.
redpillbanana 10y ago
Technology has been magnifying the advantage of the 'winners' for quite some time now.
Thanks to the internet, famous men can build worldwide fan clubs and can easily set up a flight itinerary to visit every last member of their global harem.
Similarly, famous women can have armies of beta orbiters to give them all the money and validation that they desire, along with a select few alpha men for their sexual needs.
Technology is only serving to magnify our feral instincts. Prepare to see AF/BB on steroids in the coming years.
RAGING_ERECTION 10y ago
I wouldn't be at all surprised if AF/BB will be enforced in the legal system at some point in the future.
Make it illegal for low SMV guys to even attempt to attract a woman, and only that top 1% alpha cock has legal access to every single woman.
The ultimate feminist utopia.
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Philhelm 10y ago
There would be revolution within 24 hours. Women would be placed in chains and top men would be put to the sword.
VinylGuy420 10y ago
I'd say that's starting with all this "sexual assault" and drunken "rape" on college campuses. A woman gets hit on by a "creepy" guy and it makes her feel weird, that's sexual assault now. A woman gets drunk and makes a poor decision to sleep with a low SMV male then regrets it when's she's sober, that's rape.
If at all the guy is hawt, that nullifies all the above of course.
trpadawan 10y ago
If frequent pussy and more respect in life wasn't enough motivation to raise your SMV, I think this should be.
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Venicedreaming 10y ago
So basically women are winning this game, and there's not much to be done about it for most males.
cock_pussy_up 10y ago
Women aren't winning. Having overbearing expectations isn't winning. The truth is, a lot of these overdemanding women will end up getting pumped and dumped by top players, single spinsters with a herd of cats, or married/divorced to a beta who they hate for not living up to their massive entitlements.
Venicedreaming 10y ago
Meant to rely the top comment yo
cover20 10y ago
How are "women winning"? One woman has started a company. She's winning.
She's not on team woman. There is not team woman! She is on team herself, like every other woman is. She's not doing this for "women" and she'll be quite happy to dump other women off the list, in the most cruel junior high school manner possible. Think of "mean girls".
Whereas she will probably be more straightforward to guys. She won't accept all of them but she intrinsically wants to like them.
Venicedreaming 10y ago
Meant to reply to top comment
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
Bullshit. That sounds like the words of MGTOW quitter.
You can
This app is for career bitches for the most part If you are up there in terms of maleness then you can still get hot girls. There is an ocean of them out there.
Venicedreaming 10y ago
Whoops meant to comment the top post
mighty_mogomra 10y ago
As a Man Going His Own Way in his 30's, I've learned several things over time:
1. Women don't know what the fuck they want Even though this app is created by a woman doesn't guarantee that the intended audience (women) will hook up with or lock down the intended audience (rich beta bux or alpha male).
2. My goal as a MGTOW is to create a stable and comfortable financial lifestyle for myself. Whether or not a woman is included in that plan or not makes NO difference to me. Most of what passes for woman nowadays is shit anyway. Just ask previous generation's of men if you don't know what I mean.
3. I tend to call things as I see them. Whether that is calling the mouthy, entitled, materialistic woman at the club a cunt when she disrespects me in public or when the Reddit poster, Claude_Reborn, a pompous PUA putz with delusions of grandeur, insults the entire MGTOW community with his broad brush stroke of over generalizations.
I will always go my own way and no amount of man shaming from you or anyone else will change that.
P.S. IllimitableMan, that post summed up everything I've been thinking over the last 10 years. Kudos for writing such a good post.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
no arguments here.
Low value men attract shit tier women. You're only seeing shit tier women because you're shit tier. Rather than improving, you just keep doing the same thing over and over and wonder why you never see any quality women. I speak with previous generations of men and there have always been shit tier women but they adopted some standards and improved themselves and managed to end up with quality.
The fact you are even expecting to meet any sort of quality women in "clubs" means you have no fucking clue. I stopped going to clubs when I was 19, because they were loud, expensive meat markets with crap women and I never had hope anyway because I wasn't tall n good looking. I met a number of women in my 20's, but they were never in" clubs" they were everywhere else.
You can go your own way. You can do what ever the fuck you want. If you're happy to live a mediocre existence than good for you. I am just choosing to point how sad you are to the rest of the readers. You make a wonderful example.
lolbroo 10y ago
Really, guy? Lift and get fit,:done. Work on your carrer and get smarter about it? Already done. Date 19 yr olds, done and done. What else? Get a limb lengthening surgery done in case you're still 6'2". You need to be 6'6" then you'll get an even better harem!? Get a plastic surgery. You know, for a bigger harem. 8"cock simply wont do. Need surgery for that too.
Is that all you're suggesting everyone do with their life? You doing all that just raises the bar, because women are ultimately the choosers. If you had any gray matter, you would suggest ways of taking that choice away from women. Which means you're making it harder for yourself eventually. Because your looks will fade, and someday you will start bending forward. I don't know how old you are and I dont care, Im only 24 but seriously, if you're going to spend that much time and resources into getting approval of women, then whatever go ahead and do it. Do whatever the fuck you want. Don't come up here and bash MGTOW. Some guys just DGAF about women and their approval. There are some pretty successful MGTOW out there and they are ploughing their way through women right now. The difference between you and them? They are not desperately trying to prove their worth by climbing the tallest fucking mountain and fucking the last moving thing on earth. So not putting effort to get the hottest bitch is a mediocre existence?. We make a sad example to the readers? If anything, you make a pretty shitty example of your empty life, because lets face it, looking at your comments in this thread, your personality looks like utter shit. Find a better purpose in life guy. Don't try to shame men. Women already do that. Finally, manosphere doesn't need divisions so STFU.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
ooh a wall of text with limited formatting ! I hit a nerve. I am guessing you are one of the thin skinned MGTOW's I was referring to.
I am not going to bother addressing your points I can clearly see you still don't fucking get it.
So I will use small words so you understand.
You improve for yourself, for you own benefit...
The
Women
Will
come
to
you!
No chasing required.
Jesus H fucking Christ, I see you have 4 posts in total, and yet you are coming in here to try and tell us how things are going to be.
You're 24 for fucks sake, you don't know shit about shit, so stop trying to be all high and fucking mighty. I am not trying to "shame you" I am telling you the hard and bitter truth. You shame yourself by spouting that MGTOW crap at 24. Oooh yeah... you're different ! you're hardcore ! You're the fucking straight edge for the 21st century.
Don't talk again until you have done the required reading.
ex_astris_sci 10y ago
Your main problem is that you mistakenly assume that you hold the monopoly on the definition of value, which you obviously don't- your assertions about mediocrity are purely subjective, therefore irrelevant.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
Translation: I can't argue with you on a logical level, so I am going to jam my head further up my arse, so I can pretend I can't hear you.
ex_astris_sci 10y ago
It's logical to conclude that there is no absolute value system.
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juanqunt 10y ago
Thanks for awaring me of this. People in DC area, please sign up! Need a few hundred more signing up before it becomes available apparently. I like how it doesn't match you with people on your LinkedIn.
OblongShlong 10y ago
Yet another whine thread. Get better or go to sleep with a dry dick.
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t21spectre 10y ago
/r/AlreadyRed
I believe it is invite only
dacostack 10y ago
true, there are some quality posts but 90% are former betas who are still bitter towards women or dudes without any social life/circle that need a place to tell their lame success stories.
someone please pm the info for that private rp sub
YaBoiTibzz 10y ago
Does it filter out low SMV women too though? Or is it only discriminatory in which men are allowed to use it? Because if it goes both ways then you could argue it might actually be a step forward in the sense of getting women to have more realistic expectations (i.e. a 6 getting denied from use of this app would be getting a reality check on what her SMV really is, whereas currently she expects access to 8's or 9's and probably considers herself one as a result).
redpillspeeddate 10y ago
They filter the girls very heavy, I have not seen less than a 7 on it. If you look at the blog you can see the blue angels party that gives you an idea of the girls on it. http://blog.theleagueapp.co/
Philhelm 10y ago
That's a good point, and I just had an idea. Have a dating site like hotornot.com, in which male and female profiles are rated for attractiveness, but only allow messages to be sent to people within 0.5 points of the same rating (so a 6 could contact a 5.5 or a 6.5, but nobody else). It would be amazing for some of the entitled bitches to only have a bunch of nasty slobs to choose from. How delightful!
Of course, women would just stop using the site...
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
No because its women deciding and not men. Women have no idea what men see as high smv and really don't care.
If it were men deciding they'd all be 18 - 19 yr olds with a low partner count and 10 bodies.
Blaat1985 10y ago
And that's why this app is going to fail. High value men have options and aren't going to play the game the womens rules.
cover20 10y ago
Women deciding because a woman started it? Don't be so sure:
(1) This woman won't trust other women. She'll probably bring in guys to her decision making circle.
(2) You think she'll let any woman join? She thinks other women suck and she hates them. She may exclude the hottest chicks or some other crazy thing, but this is not an open invitation to all women. Women never do that.
The only people who provide things to all women are beta loser men.
redpillspeeddate 10y ago
There is guys involved in picking, and for girls its not on their schooling or degrees. It is on the men.
She gets a big validation on making power couples so she keeps the quality of the girls really high.
AlchemyPhoenix 10y ago
I think other sites do this already. When I signed up for OK Cupid in the new city I moved to last year, at first I was completely unimpressed. I was thinking I'd have to hit the bar scene to meet anyone. But I eventually teased out a few decent women in my own searches, plus got some unsolicited messages. Now suddenly I only see hot women when I log in. I swear they have some sort of snowball algorithm to protect hot girls from boring losers. It's like you have to prove yourself by getting a few messages before you gain access to the bonus echelon.
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AlchemyPhoenix 10y ago
Yeah, it's not "fair," but it's life. The sooner you embrace this graph, the sooner you can start doing something about it: http://imgur.com/360Jcwf
whatisinausername_ 10y ago
They do.
I got an email from OKC after a few people "chose me" in their quick match section that said I was attractive enough so were going to start showing you more attractive people.
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whatisinausername_ 10y ago
Apparently it's a marketing thing. I was unaware, though. Joke was on us.
MomoUnchained 10y ago
LOL. That's a marketing ploy dude.
Everyone gets that e-mail after a few days.
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monsieurhire2 10y ago
My favorite part is: "No Randoms!" Lolz, because totes hate the randoms!
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
on one we haven't vetted first ! We need to make sure that they have social proof before we'll let them in!
You'll just end up with the normal "10 women sharing 1 alpha cock" or "he must be worth $X amount, so we can get dem beta bux!"
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self_made_guy 10y ago
OP , that was my reaction. People here need to step up their 'game'. We need more self-impovement posts.
Claude_Reborn 10y ago
Great. This sub has lost a lot of the positivity that it once had. Too many whiners and defeatist mgtow types nowadays.
kranos33 10y ago
I for one welcome this app to filter out the "idiot" girls that tinder is polluted from.
But, on the other hand I am afraid this app will attract the wrong type of woman, the one that value empty credentials (i.e. where you went to school), over real life achievements, and overall compatibility.
But whatever. I signed up for it. Since I am on that 20%, I think it will be a good playground to spin up some well educated plates.
PowerVitamin 10y ago
Well said.
And also on the points about technology benefiting elites. Look at twitch.tv. It is THE online gaming television network. Women with very little skill in the game make thousands of dollars off donations from BB. And the best part is... they get all their donations and spikes in viewers when they switch the cam to "full screen boobs" instead of gameplay.
cover20 10y ago
Never understood why people donate for that. It's like a strip club. You watch the dancer on stage, she strips, she dances, you get a great view.
But why give her money? Let the other suckers give her money. You just watch and enjoy.
mercuryg 10y ago
As Rollo says it, anything that increases a womans sexual selection capacity in search of the highest value mate possible will be encouraged, anything that represses it will be violently shut down.
Things will only get worse for your below 80% smv male.
cover20 10y ago
So when will we know enough about their coolness / balance algorithm to reverse engineer it?
myexile 10y ago
Damnit this is a great idea I wish I had thought of. Literally the reason I don't like tinder is because I refuse to bother with trashy women. Why didn't I think of this lol
DarkSayed 10y ago
Even if you had, so what? Do you think she's the first person to come up with this? There are already dating websites that aim to do a similar thing. The thing about startups like this, is that its not the technology or even the idea that makes it successful vs others, its about being already well connected, in the right time and the right place, getting noticed by someone with lots of money to throw at you, and being able to sell vision.
Like a lot of things in life, most of it is luck of circumstance. That's why you don't get some African kid becoming wealthy like this. It's very often in the US, and very often people from already good backgrounds and who had a good start in life.