About two years ago my mom convinced me to get my blood tested. All was well except for one glaring deficiency: Vitamin D. I was at like zero, shit was non-existent. So my mom bought me a bottle of supplements and tried to get me to take them every morning (this was back when I still lived with her and was stubborn about shit everything) and I didn't really take it all too consistently. I didn't really notice a difference, didn't really give a shit and I dropped it. Recently I just started thinking about how fucking exhausted I am ALL THE TIME. Like all the fucking time, for serious. I would nod off at my desk for hours (thank god I have my own office) and still not have more energy. I was all fucked up. Thought it was just this way for good. I decided to google the benefits of vitamin D. What I came across led to a facepalm to end all facepalms. The following are REAL scientific benefits of ensuring you have the correct fucking amount of vitamin D:
- HIGHER FUCKING TESTOSTERONE LEVELS & LOWER ESTROGEN LEVELS
- PROMOTES DAYTIME WAKEFULNESS & BETTER NIGHT TIME SLEEP QUALITY
- BOOSTS YOUR FUCKING IMMUNE SYSTEM
- PROMOTES MUSCLE STRENGTH & INTEGRITY
- HELPS WITH ERECTILE FUNCTION
- MAINTAINS BONE HEALTH
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PROTECTS AGAINST ALZHEIMER'S
So, in conclusion, a lot of us computer reddit dwellers tend to not get one important thing, especially when our beta blue asses are first swallowing TRP: WE DON'T GET ENOUGH FUCKING SUNLIGHT. Because of this, we can be groggy all fucking day, have LESS FREE TESTOSTERONE, not be getting the optimal muscle quality when hitting the gym. Yo, in the beginning especially, us beta fucks need all the help we can get. The testosterone factor alone should be enough to make sure you get enough. I've been taking a supplement for a few weeks now, and I shit you not, I have more energy and better mood and better sleep quality than I've had in years. 100% better fucking quality of life. Because my dumb fucking ass was too stubborn to try and rectify my dangerously low deficient shit problems because my mom was trying to help me and I was a big tough know better beta fuck. And it's the only adjustment I've made in my life recently. Don't take it from me, there are plenty of sources on the internet to back my shit up. And it's NOT JUST VITAMIN D!! Get a blood test, make sure you aren't deficient in shit anything. Taking vitamins and minerals just "because they're good for me RIGHT!?" is dumb as hell. Find out for sure. Fix your shit. Fix yourself. Grow and improve, YA DUMBASS. Sources:
- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sleep-newzzz/201301/vitamin-d-deficiency-and-daytime-sleepiness
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https://prostate.net/articles/vitamin-d-requirements-for-men-over-40
Edit: DON'T JUST START THROWING BACK VITAMIN D CARTE BLANCHE! I'm not a doctor. I'm saying get your bloodwork done and consult with your doctor before taking large amounts of vitamins, there is a legit problem called vitamin overdose - it's a real thing. You can mess up your kidneys, liver, heart, etc. if you're just taking a shitload without proper monitoring. Consult with your doctor first! Be healthy and smart!
marcinbzq 6y ago
"I'm not a doctor": shut up and stop giving people medical advice.
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-rise-and-inevitable-fall-of-vitamin-d/
iSwallowedTRP 6y ago
Once you started taking vitamin D, how long until you started to realize the increase in testosterone?
TriggeringEveryone 6y ago
What the fuck happened at the top of the comments?
gotstodoit9 6y ago
Vitamin D is legit. Probably one of the few supplements/vitamins worth taking
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jeddzus 6y ago
You might be better off, really not entirely sure. Like I said at the bottom, best way to know for sure is just get your bloodwork done at the doctor. You should anyway, it'll tell you how your cholesterol is, blood glucose, white blood cell count, fat levels, vitamin deficiencies, possibly indicate cancer. Definitely a thing worth checking out especially if you're noticing you're a little "off."
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jeddzus 6y ago
Hey man yeah I take this one: https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-vitamin-d-softgels-5000iu-100ct-prodid-1010704?skuId=717911 twice a day. Those that you showed me once a day would be fine I think. You should consult with your doctor though. Especially because you've already found out (I assume through him?) that you're deficient.
IClogToilets 6y ago
The number of times a day is irrelevant. Vitamin D is stored in fat if not immediately used. Twice a day ... or once a week, not a big difference. Just don't let your fat reserves become depleted.
1v1crown 6y ago
Any idea what the best supplement to buy is?
DokDaka 6y ago
I like pure therapeutics liquid d plus k from amazon
0FO6 6y ago
Really want to emphasize taking the correct amount. It is really easy to overdose on vitamin d . Taking too much has some serious toxic effects like but not limited to: kidney failure, bone loss, stomach pain, constipation, nausea, vomiting, poor appetite, elevated blood calcium levels, and elevated blood levels.
There are some foods that have naturally occurring vitamin D. There are a few different kinds of fish that can provide vitamin D, like salmon, herring, sardines, cod, tuna, oysters, shrimp.
The general consensus of what I could find says that around 2000 to 4000 iu a day should be good without getting too much into the toxicity range. I bring this up as my brother ended up borderline getting into the toxic range by taking over 10,000 iu of vitamin D for several months and started having a variety of issues from it.
jeddzus 6y ago
Yup, I'm trying to make sure everyone in this thread doesn't just start loading up without consulting with their doctor. Tried to emphasize the need to get blood work done and do things carefully. I think I'm gonna edit the post.
space_midgit 6y ago
Isn’t this only from synthetic sources? Like vitamin A.
0FO6 6y ago
You mean foods that have Vitamin D? The fish I mentioned have it naturally occurring
space_midgit 6y ago
Sorry I was unclear. I was under the impression that synthetic vitamin d like a; can cause problems. But if it is supplemented with diet not pill; quantity can be much greater.
AircraftWelder 6y ago
Moved to the interior of Alaska last summer, and started taking vitamin D as the days got shorter. This is the first winter in memory that I haven’t been lethargic/depressed with the lack of sunlight, going to and getting off work in the dark, etc. and it’s by far the least sunlight I’ve received. Vitamin D gets a thumbs up from me.
Raknith 6y ago
I have a vitamin D3 supplement that says to take 2 every day, should I take 2 or more? I have a multivitamin too, should I take them at the same time? Regular dose? For reference I get about <5 minutes of sun on an average day and usually eat unhealthy (i'm working on it)
how much d3 and multivitamin should I take?
jeddzus 6y ago
I'm not a doctor, sir. Depends on your weight, your current levels, etc. I'd highly recommend getting bloodwork done (for a multitude of reasons) and working with your doctor. I don't take multivitamins, I only take this one, and it was a dosage recommended by my doctor. I believe it was like 2000 twice a day. Don't quote me on that though, the bottle is in my bathroom at home I'm not sure lol. You'd be better off doing research online or consulting a doctor.
Metalgear222 6y ago
Started taking Vitamin D in the 35,000 IU tablets once a week for the last 3 months and HOLY FUCKING SHIT, major improvement in sleep quality, restfulness, erectile function, appetite, healthy looking skin, overall happiness and positive attitude. Those are just the ones i'm aware of.
OrangeBananaShake 6y ago
You take a good (conservative) average amount of Vitamin D but don't take a megadose once per week. Better take a normal amount of Vitamin D every or every second day.
JaxHerer 6y ago
Why 35,000 once a week rather than 3000 with every meal? Does your body store it that well?
jeddzus 6y ago
It's insane dude. Like I said, I was blown away by the quality of life increase. I didn't want to get THAT into it and act like it's some miracle cure all snake oil shit but yeah.. I hope that this post nudged some people to get bloodwork done and possibly supplement with VitD and feel just as good as we do brotha.
GlennBeckAmerica 6y ago
If money is tight should I get a bottle of vitamin d pills?
Don_Himself 6y ago
i grew 2 iron midgets as hands once i fixed my diet and started getting necessary vitamins
soider8 6y ago
Which vitamins did you take in addition?
Don_Himself 6y ago
magnesium, zinc, vit D, and cutting back on iron (donating blood frequently extends your life)
soider8 6y ago
Thanks for the reply, didn’t know that about iron. Just started a similar supplement regime and I’m experiencing some pain in my bones, apparently it’s normal for those who are very deficient however.
elfonite 6y ago
that's great! this year I was prescribed vitamin D3 and I realized how much fatigued I used to be, I knew that something was not fine and that others were leading an energetic life. Vitamin D3 restored my energy levels and it helped me reclaim long lost vitality. it was as if somebody turned up the brightness slider within. no more getting tired during day time. it's the elixir I've been missing. go for Vitamin D3 and not the synthetic variant D2. it is advised that Vitamin D3 should be taken along with magnesium.
OminousOmnipotence 6y ago
I would add DHEA and Zinc every night before bed.
Anywhere from 25mg to 100mg of DHEA moderate if you start getting too pissy as it will dramatically increase your testosterone levels. Also, take at bed so you sleep through the initial pissy attitude too.
Make sure you pair with Zinc as DHEA can be converted to Estrogen. The Zinc ensures it becomes testosterone.
BornShook 6y ago
Good shit man.
Add ashwaganda and B12 in there as well for the fuck of it. Thats what I take everyday. D3, zinc, DHEA (most days), ashwaganda and b12.
OminousOmnipotence 6y ago
Well. If you want my full
50mg DHEA Tribulus 100mg Zinc 15000 Units of D (I live north) Arginine 1500mg Fenugreek Multi Vitamin
I'm looking up Ashwaganda now.
BornShook 6y ago
Decent man. What id fenugreek for? Ive heard of that one but never considered it.
Ashwaganda is definitly worth trying. There was a study that showed that men who used it everyday for 3 months had a 33% boost in testosterone levels.
OminousOmnipotence 6y ago
Fenugreek and Tribulus both improve athletic performace and testosterone levels.
I started taking as a competitive athlete and have just maintained. I just learned Magnesium also frees up loose testosterone increasing levels by 25% so I am add that to my regiment.
As I continue being an old guy I can attest I definitely feel younger.
SpaceEnthusiast 6y ago
100 mg of Zn sounds like a lot dude...
OminousOmnipotence 6y ago
I am cheap so I buy Zinc Gluconate which is only like 20% absorption rate so it's super cheap to buy. My doctor reccomended Zinc Acetate or Zinc Orotate which has a better absorption rate but way more expensive.
So, 100mg is really only like 20mg being absorbed.
I_LIKE_THINGS_OFTEN 6y ago
I’ve got several concussion in the past and have been dealing with chronicle depression since the last 8-10 years. I also live up north in Canada so sun light is near non-existant during weekday at the office while in the winter.
I second OP, I started taking vitamins D and other supplement and my mood and mind really improved. This winter has been the easiest to go through, with only a week or two of down. 10/10 would recommend.
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AshyBoneVR4 6y ago
Wow this makes sense. I was taking VitD supplements for a while because my VitD count was insanely low too. I stopped and everything just started going wrong. Guess I'll start back up again.
Also.... what the hell is up with all the removed comments? What'd I miss?
NACHTK1113R 6y ago
Well some people are sensitive to dht so we can't even build muscle without the risk of hair loss. I can't even eat dark chocolate or drink pomegranite juice because it causes shedding.
jeddzus 6y ago
Ahh sorry to hear that man. What's the treatment for that?
NACHTK1113R 6y ago
I'm not sure, but I know I would need something such as finasteride(to combat it), but it causes erectile dysfunction(so it isn't worth it, what would be the point in having big muscles, and a limp dick? I will need to find another alternative). High testosterone is essential when building muscle, but it always gets converted to dht, and that's what causes the hair loss. Exercises which significantly increase T levels such as squats and pull ups etc cause hair loss in certain people who are sensitive to dht, so they have to avoid them and just mostly stick to cardio if they do do any exercise at all.
jeddzus 6y ago
Well I guess if you're gonna bulk up then just go at it head first and bulk up. A well built bald guy can 100% still be sexy. Look at The Rock, or Jason Statham, or Vin Diesel or Andre Agassi.
NACHTK1113R 6y ago
Jason Statham is ugly as shit(yeah, maybe those other guys are slightly better examples. IMO bald guys just look ugly, they don't look youthful, they look OLD, it's like bald guys say when it happens to them they feel that they've been robbed of their youth, and that's how they look as well. Such a guy would need very strong facial aesthetics(in addition to being high status) to even be anything other than invisible to women, a good example of this is Aleceister Crowley(bisexual) he was a pretty good looking dude in his younger days, but then he went bald and he looked like shit, guys like that just aren't going to be getting laid(at least by no conventional means), women won't even pay attention to them, they don't even notice them, they are INVISIBLE. If they do get laid it's primarily because of status, and not their looks.
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Alchemist_XP 6y ago
Couldn’t have said it any fucking better myself
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SolarWizard 6y ago
That's right. In general taking vitamins and minerals to supplement your diet in general does sweet fuck all. If your vitamin D levels are normally good then supplementing above and beyond this will not make any difference. The supplement business is always pushing people to take multivitamins but unless you have a deficiency then it wont make a difference. However if you are low in vit D or don't get much sunlight then it could be worth looking into. I am a fan of taking vit D in the winter to stave off seasonal affective disorder.
nofishtocatch 6y ago
Do you not drink milk? The majority of us do, and that gives us about 50% DV of D per cup.
jeddzus 6y ago
I don't really drink milk, especially 2 cups on a daily basis. I consume about the amount that I put in my coffee when I drink it and that's about it lol. I'm more of a water/iced tea kindof guy. But hey, good on you man, how ever you get your nutrients.
nofishtocatch 6y ago
I do take supplements of it occasionally, and going to more often now thanks to your post. Despite drinking milk I only drink a cup of it, being less mindful of the D benefits. It's just something I drank a lot of when I was younger.
donkey_democrat 6y ago
The DV is too low of a dose, that's what others in this sub are talking about. Some say take anywhere from 4-10k daily
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pastarotolo 6y ago
No, vitamin D is fat soluble which means it can cross cell membranes unfacilitated and be stored in cells.
Hell, our bodies are so good at soaking it up that taking too much can be toxic- that doesn’t happen quite so easily with water soluble vitamins, like vitamin C, which you do piss out quite quickly
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Half-Life of D3 is less than 2 months.
bharg5 6y ago
It’s not just pissed out from not being utilised quickly?
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rakeshgupta1 6y ago
Gotta fix myself, my left leg's nerve kills me even when I'm not doing any lifting.
Matacks607 6y ago
I just take a calcium supplement. When I first started taking it I got headaches but then it went away. Pretty sweet huh?
bigbodybuilderr 6y ago
I take about 6k IU a day is that good?
RxDrugEvent 6y ago
There is a 15% chance that it is between 2,000IU and 10,000IU
M23W0OH7FV2t 6y ago
This is a little alarmist. Vitamins are of two classes -- fat soluble (A, D, E, and K) and water soluble (B* and C). Those that are water soluble pose no problems for health, even in extremely high doses. Indeed, Nobel laureate Linus Pauling, used to megadose on vitamin C. However, given that OP focuses on vitamin D, this paragraph is tangental.
Now to the more relevant, according to the Mayo Clinic, vitamin D is only toxic when there is more than 100 times the recommended daily amount in your bloodstream.
VictxrSenpai 6y ago
Can you live in the desert, get sun all day on your skin and still be deficient ?
adam_varg 6y ago
literally yes, but that would 1:1000***** exception
depends how far from equator you live
unless its cali, flo etc get your levels checked
FinallyRed 6y ago
Definitely not unless you have a disorder. Lifeguarding in the summer has given me so much D it actually holds me over through the winter.
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Regarding Vitamin D at such high levels, I believe you’re only supposed to take it for 3 months, just until your levels are good again. I don’t think you’re supposed to take high levels for very long. I could be wrong...
jeddzus 6y ago
My doctor recommended me 2 D3 pills (forget the exact dosage) per day. We'll see down the road, he didn't say to lower my dosage, but I plan on getting blood work done every year from here on out. Ever since I got sober, my health is numero uno.
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As it should be. Congratulations on your sobriety.
jeddzus 6y ago
Yeah, after years of drug usage, family wrecking, friend losing, crime committing, probation serving, beta-bucking, and rock bottom hitting, I finally learned my lesson. I finally learned why for the previous 25-26 years I felt the way I did, and acted the way I did, and turned to drugs in the first place. Best thing that ever happened to me, wouldn't change it for the world.
DeadPisces 6y ago
4mins of Vitamin D info goodness from aweso e researcher Dr. Rhonda Patrick: https://youtu.be/uc815fQn8iY... This is a great post as most folks are deficient and could benefit greatly from supplementing their diet with it.
ddado2 6y ago
I'd vouch for a lot of the benefits mentioned here. However, high doses of Vit D (8000IU) gave me brain fog. I started Magnesium 250mg to help and cut back to 2000 IU of D.
I wake up very early in the morning too - I'm full of energy but brain is super foggy. I have not figured out a fix.
I have good clarity and sleep well when I go completely off Vit D but then I start to have muscle pain and fatigue. Going off Mg gives me muscle cramps.
Now I skip days. I take 2000 D and 250 Mg 2-3 times a week. I wish there was a fix for brain fog and sleep problems (related I think).
Cappadona 6y ago
False. Its a placebo effect. This guys from the Vitamin industry trying to shill his useless pills.
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RedPilledRoaster 6y ago
Vitamin D is in most multivitamins. I’d reccomend just getting a men’s multivitamin (I reccomend Tru Men’s multi) and you won’t have to worry about this shit anymore.
csyolo88 6y ago
i ve red that vitamin d supplements are useless for most people and it often does more harm than good when supplemented.
jeddzus 6y ago
Check the bottom of my post. I'm not recommending just everybody take it for the hell of it. I'm saying get your blood work done, make sure you are/aren't deficient, and improve your health. After getting blood work, your certified doctor will give you medical advice based on science.
andyman30 6y ago
I was having this issue as well, can vouch for the good ol' Vitamin D helping me have more energy. I thought it was a thyroid issue, but ended up with WAY more energy after taking 5000iu a day. My asshole doctor literally thought I was on steroids and that is why I had energy issues, (25yo and relatively muscular). Glad I started taking it!
Mildsoss 6y ago
Don't skimp on the iodine bro.
ag101 6y ago
Maybe it's a placebo effect, but I can definitely tell the difference after a few days when I haven't supplemented Vitamin D.
I feel more lethargic, have less energy and overall get in more of a "depressed" mood when I have not had my 3000iu of Vit D for a few days.
greatslyfer 6y ago
Isn't that though kinda redundant though to question whether it's a placebo or not?
Like I get what you mean, how do you truly know if it's a placebo effect or not... you don't.
Dark_T100 6y ago
Thank you so much for this post mate. I have vitamin d pills just laying around ill start taking them again.
fresh--tendril 6y ago
Isn't it really odd that we get vitamin D from the sun - of all places..
rorrr 6y ago
We get vitamin D from the sun and from the foods (and now from the pills as well). The problem with getting it from the sun, you increase your chances of skin cancer. You need to combine all 3 sources. The best way, according to some recent articles I've read, is vitamin D fortified foods: salmon, tuna, dairy, egg yolks (also some types of orange juice, but that shit is loaded with sugar). Supplements are a lot less effective for some reason.
sadshark 6y ago
The problem with getting it from alimentation is that you need to eat a shit ton of UNPROCESSED foods like fish and still the amount you would get would not be sufficient.
We need sunlight and when we dont get it, we need high doses in other suplements.
jeddzus 6y ago
I agree - it really is lol. Our bodies synthesize it from cholesterol when exposed to sunlight. Our bodies are really beautiful insane things man.
fresh--tendril 6y ago
What makes it weirder, in a sense, is we get everything from the sun. But as you said, that our bodies can be the things that extract Vit D directly from the sun.. It doesn't have to go through all manner of geological processes.. Going to catch a lot of rays this Summer - and get down with the corporeal alchemy
jeddzus 6y ago
Yup, light and energy are the genesis of all life
SKRedPill 6y ago
Maybe this is why cabin fever is a thing...
YoIAmRoadTripping 6y ago
Can you speak to tanning and if you can reap benefits of Viramin D from visiting a tanning bed? Or is that stupid?
If anyone has experience please share!
Rakosnik 6y ago
yes you can. exposure to UVB radiation triggers vitamin D synthesis in the body. sunbeds can produce that sprectrum of light.
its actually quite effective way of boosting vitamin D without supplements.
greatslyfer 6y ago
As a person working in London, crikey!
StickguyMB 6y ago
Is it possible to consume too much vitamin D for it to take effect? I've been taking a multivitamin for a while now and I've noticed no difference and I'm wondering ifnI should also take a vitamin D pill on top of that
jeddzus 6y ago
No, read the bottom of my post. Don't just take vitamins and minerals because "they're all good for me right!?!" That's not the right way to do shit. You'll only notice a difference if you're deficient. It seems like you AREN'T deficient. Just like if you're skinny as fuck and not getting enough calories, then you need to intake more calories. But if you're already getting enough, then you're going to do the wrong thing by taking more.
FlatEarther199 6y ago
Will it help me lose my virginity at the age of 27?
IClogToilets 6y ago
No, but you will wack off with more vigor.
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BornShook 6y ago
I started taking a fish oil pill every morning, and I felt great. I didnt really pay attention to the other ingredients that were in the pill but I decided to look one day and realised that it had 133% rdv of vitamin D. Looked it up, and realised that was why I felt so great on it. Better sleep, more organised, more active, better gains, etc.
ReggieCarl 6y ago
Vitamin D is essentially a anabolic hormone. I was deficient in it as well. Been taking supplements for it for over half a year. Difference is day and night. Also gained two inches in height probably because of my deficiency getting corrected.
soider8 6y ago
If you don’t mind me asking, how much were you supplementing with? I’m 22 and I believe I could have suffered from a Vit D deficiency for most of my life. Anyway I will be supplementing soon so I hope it makes a difference, I’m from the UK and from what I can see on Amazon and other reviews Ultra Vitabiotics Vitamin D 1000UI daily seems to be good. The company also has a 2000UI version.
I will begin with 1000UI and see if there’s a difference.
revente 6y ago
1000 is really low. 3-5k is proper way to go when you are deficient.
soider8 6y ago
How will I know this is not dangerous? I’m not supplementing anything else like K2
ReggieCarl 6y ago
I am 22 as well. I took two Vitamin D3 3000 IU, so 6000 IU. I bought and used these from Amazon.co.uk
Up to 10,000 IU should be regarded as very safe unless you have some conditions that predispose you to high blood calcium, such as hyperparathyroidism or acidosis.
If you're a white person in t-shirt and shorts in the summer sun you can produce up to 10,000 IU within 15-20 minutes easily. Toxicity doesn't occur until at least 40,000 IU according to most recent studies.
soider8 6y ago
Hmm that’s interesting, thanks for the reply mate. I believe it may be good for me to get some tests done beforehand and possibly consult my GP as well as doing more research on the whole topic of Vit D.
Thing is I’ve always had sleep problems such as sleep talking, sleep terrors occasionally and day time tiredness used to be bad for me. Anything wrong with just taking 1-2kUI for the time being to see it there’s any difference?
ReggieCarl 6y ago
Do that. It's always a good idea to consult with your doctor about your recent blood work.
Those symptoms you stated can be caused by a lot of things obviously. It's difficult for me to say unless I knew all your environmental factors like time spent outside and diet etc. So anything I'd tell you would probably be an inaccurate estimation. So I rather not.
So if you really wanna be on the safe side, just take 500 IU by cutting your tablet in half and work your way up every week. Listen to how your body responds and adapt your dose accordingly.
soider8 6y ago
One last question, do you supplement with vitamin k2 also?
ReggieCarl 6y ago
Yep. Vitamin K2 mk7 form. Vitamin D & Vitamin K2 synergize very well together. For every 5,000 - 10,000 UI of D3 I recommend 100-200 mcg of K2 mk7.
I started with this half a year ago, and I feel my bones are significantly denser. I never get pain in my knees or anything anymore. I had really frail bones just 6 months ago (I was deficient in Vitamin D and other things)
soider8 6y ago
Ah I see, thanks again for the reply.
A quick search on amazon led me to these Vit K tablets which seem good from the reviews https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004GW4S0G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_d89VAbTCWQDMB
I will also build myself up to 6k UI daily in Vit D alongside taking Vit K. Do you know if it’s possible to take too much Vit K? I’m assuming the Vit K that is not used is pissed out.
I’m not sure if my bones are frail or not (my feet get tired/ache from standing too long?) however strangely enough I grew around 2-3 inches in height last year (age 21). At the time I was lifting/playing football, eating well and getting a good amount of sun exposure (walks I took daily as exam revision breaks) so I’m not sure if this was all related. The height thing is what initially caught my attention from your original post.
Edit: I’ve just realised that the link above is for a Vit K complex.
This seems better just for K2 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XSJFTXL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_jv-VAb1KCCKG7
soider8 6y ago
Right thanks for the reply!
readordie13 6y ago
I take a Gold Juice Supplement with a warm glass of coconut milk before bed, has plenty of Vitamin D sourced from whole food ingredients. From what I noticed, my sleep is great, have a consistent upbeat mood and noticing less inflammation. I'm not much of a pill person, I believe its best to get nutrients from whole food sources.
You can check it out here: https://www.organifishop.com/collections/organifi-gold/products/1-bottle-supply-organifi-gold
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DouglasB2310 6y ago
Probably the most useful post I've ever seen today.
Thanks OP. ????
Rndm_010 6y ago
What food has high amount of vitamin d?
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ghosts_of_me 6y ago
A couple of months ago I got a new job that puts me outdoors doing physical work for 8 hours a day. Since only recently my jizz loads have been enormous compared to the past. I think I may have found the correlation. Nice!
EmberTraveler 6y ago
Before I had a car, I walked everywhere. The benefits of walking are great but add in sunlight?
Awesome duo there
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This is probably why during the summer time (I live in Canada where it's winter most of the year) I feel more horny and muscles usually look more vascular and on peak than during the winter (tan is probably a big factor to tho)
FinallyRed 6y ago
To be fair they were eating loads of animal products from beasts who were getting sun and eating right unlike modern factory farmed trash meat.
writewhereileftoff 6y ago
Ok that's it I'm getting on the D train!
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tallwheel 6y ago
Could be also due to the physical activity itself.
ghosts_of_me 6y ago
Im sure that's also contributing greatly.
WolfofAnarchy 6y ago
May i ask what job that is? I'm looking for some 'manly' jobs myself, working outdoors, being in the sun, lifting stuff, etc. I can't help but think my sitting is slowly killing me.
lilbro1984 6y ago
Look up Deskbound, has some really good tips if you are stuck on a desk. And oh yeah sitting is killing you!
WolfofAnarchy 6y ago
My internet is horrid right now, can you in one sentence say what Deskbound is? Like an app?
lilbro1984 6y ago
A book by Kelly Starrett, check amazon or your local library.
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ghosts_of_me 6y ago
Landscaping labourer. No skills required to start. Highly recommend.
WolfofAnarchy 6y ago
Thanks. Can you - in a few sentences, I don't want to bother you - walk me through your most frequent tasks? I have a hard time imagining what exactly you do!
ghosts_of_me 6y ago
If we are building a new landscape then it is like minor construction, moving earth, placing boulders, concreting, tiling, installing irrigation systems, building walls or decks, planting trees, plants, etc.
If we are maintaining landscaped property then there is a lot of weeding, digging, hedge trimming, ground clearing, green waste removal, and so on.
assholeofthesky 6y ago
I think it's a massive shame that a lot of work is performed indoors. i felt way way better working days outside as apposed to working indoors at night, but ya know shit happens and life happens
jeddzus 6y ago
If I could do my job at an outdoors desk standing up, my quality of life would increase and hundred-fold.
assholeofthesky 6y ago
waterproof laptops? it'll be interesting to see ;)
speaking from experience, i was beyond fucked up when i worked night shift. transferred to days and immediately felt better
Dravous 6y ago
Well if it makes you feel better most electronics these days are actually rather water resistant. The circuit boards are coated after assembly which makes them water proof. The problems are in places like the junctions between stuff, like the usb ports, and in non-electric parts like the bearings of the cooling fans. Someday they might be totally sealed.
jeddzus 6y ago
I started a new job years ago that bumped my pay up from $60k to $80k but they wanted me to work 10pm-6am shifts 6 days a week. I dropped that shit like a rock. Goodbye social life. Goodbye sanity. There's a reason they offer that much.
assholeofthesky 6y ago
That's a damn increase man. sometimes you gotta make that sacrifice to get the things you want! depending on what you're doing though, for me personally i'm looking at jobs that are basically working the night(DJ work/nightlife)
The thing about that wage increase, you could take the hours...start to feel the effects of working nights and have to take time out for the mental health problems that occur as a result of night work.
I'm sure you made the right move though mate!
jeddzus 6y ago
Haha, yeah it worked out man. I'm making even more than that now. I've found with hard work, making the right choices, surrounding myself with the right people, and being optimistic generally all leads me where I want to go in life. Even "setbacks" are growth opportunities. Re-examine, re-tool, re-execute.
assholeofthesky 6y ago
fantastic mate, a setback a few years back completely fucked me up and retooled me from beta thinker to a much more respectable human being, don't get me wrong i have my relapses but getting out of that system slowly and surely and whilst it fucked me royally, i am completely thankful that i do not live blind anymore
jeddzus 6y ago
Hey I feel ya on that brotha, I went through a complete life collapse because of drug addiction: fucked up family and friend relationships, lost job, became epileptic, probation, the list goes on and on. BUT in order to recover I needed to get to the root of all my problems, why i started using in the first place. And because of the drug addiction showing me the light, it's the best thing that's ever happened to me. I've improved in every single aspect of my life. Hope all is well with you too bud
assholeofthesky 6y ago
I'm sorry to hear that man. I think to overcome addiction is the mark of someone willing to put up a fight, i still smoke pot on a regular basis but trying to limit my usage until it becomes a stable amount and not overly excessive. being out of work resulted in a lifestyle that is congruent to redpill living but sometimes you need to get out of that phase to realize what shitty behaviours still remain. is there anything you could advise for getting out of your habits? this or last year was the first time i PROPERLY excercised, i can see why addicts get told to try this kind of thing. revolutionary in how i perceive myself, my mood etc
Goodwin512 6y ago
I had my blood tested fir vitamin D deficiencies (didnt think about it since i walk around outside for college fairly often and i have a summer job that is outdoors. Now im on a 50k mg pill once a week for vitamin D... oops I had same issue as you where I was always dead ass exhausted and couldnt help no matter the amt of sleep.
redd_reality 6y ago
Did the vit D supplement help you?
Goodwin512 6y ago
Odd story, but the first 4 weeks i was hyper as shit, all the energy in the world, but not sleeping much hit me way harder so i needed 2/3 extra hrs. Energy wise i really was unstoppable tho!
And then another 3 weeks later and im startig to lose the energy again? Idk if my bodys adjusting to new amts and wants me tired as shit but its not the same.
Im planning on going back in to see if im getting too much vitamin D and have toxicity in my blood... cant find a middle ground (-.-)/
redd_reality 6y ago
At least you know your energy is a direct function of your vit D intake. Guess regular blood tests are a must.
Goodwin512 6y ago
It was just really weird, i thought i was going through a depression and then realized i had no reason in the world to be depressed, so i started looking to clinical reasons. My thoughts were possibly thyroid or vit D or even low Testosterone
frostdrachen 6y ago
Up north this is a common deficiency due to an extreme lack of sunlight during the winter. So unless you're getting plenty of direct sunlight (even just thin glass blocks UV light which is needed for the synthesis) you're going to need supplements. We have them all over the place and most of our milk has added vitamin D.
George_H_W_Kush 6y ago
Yeah, a lot of people up here just assume vitamin d deficiency is “feeling crappy because it’s thewinter”
Marsupian 6y ago
When you are far enough from the equator it's impossible to get enough vitD from sunlight in the winter because the angle of the sun is too low. It's likely that our ancestors used to compensate this partly with high fish intake.
I supplement 5000iu in winter and switch to every other day in spring/fall and once or twice a week in the summer.
Edit: anyone supplementing high amounts of vitD should also take vitK out of precaution. Magnesium is probably also a good idea.
OnlyTRP 6y ago
is 5000 iu daily considered high amount of vit D? asking because I have that in my cart atm and wondering if I should buy the K2.
ZMA and Vit D3 is what I am gonna purchase so far.
Marsupian 6y ago
Sort off, I'd call it average. It's likely fine without but if you can easily get some vitK I'd go for it. It has benefits of it's own. That said first check if you regularly eat food high in vitK.
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Immaculate5321 6y ago
Vitamin D can boost cognition, bone health and if you are deficient can increase testosterone as a side effect of supplementation. If you have too much vitamin D, calcium can begin to build up in your blood and cause many side effects including kidney stones. It is very difficult to get vitamin d to dangerous levels without supplementation. Vitamin K Assists in the transport of calcium and promotes bone health. This also means a decreased risk of calcium buildup in arteries. Great synergy. Vitamin K also has a role in blood clotting so don’t supplement without talking to a doctor if you are on blood thinners.
Cynthaen 6y ago
Make sure you get K2.
It has a lot higher affinity to bind to osteocalcin (the enzyme that transfers calcium to the bones, which needs K2 and D3 to activate).
PaulAJK 6y ago
I thought 1000iu was enough?
Azhet 6y ago
Newer studies show that our previous assumptions were off, around 8000 is now recommended. I take 10,000 IU daily and have definitely noticed a huge improvement in my life. $10 for 3 months worth, only wish I’d started sooner!
StrikePrice 6y ago
I also take 10k IU per day. Have for years. My GP told me one time “you’re my only patient with normal Vitamin D levels.”
disgruntledearthling 6y ago
I also have been taking 10000iu daily. 6000 in the morning and 4000 after supper. I can say I do feel better but without bloodwork it's hard to say if this is a placebo effect... I read the same recent study and it seemed to make sense.
PaulAJK 6y ago
jeez that's a fuck ton. I'll give it a go.
Extremely_Photogenic 6y ago
That's a lot.... I have heard that 1000 is too low but 8,000?? I thought the new recommendation was like 2k from a previous of 400.
Do you have sources for this?
Azhet 6y ago
Link to the study
It seems like a lot but I feel a lot better taking it. I ran out for a week because I couldn't afford more and I felt more tired and less healthy overall. It helps with seasonal affective disorder significantly. I think the reason there is a large trend of depression (evidenced by it's popularity in memes) is we are low on Vitamin D because we stay inside so much.
Extremely_Photogenic 6y ago
I completely agree with everything you said, except I am still shocked to see 8000 IU recommended. I typically dose 2-4k a day in the winter...
Azhet 6y ago
You actually make a lot more naturally
Some people need less, some people need more. I have a particularly low deficiency according to my endocrinologist, so 10k IU works for me :)
Extremely_Photogenic 6y ago
This is true in the summer. Doesn't work as well in the winter. I am going to up my vitamin D. Thanks
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TominatorXX 6y ago
But don't take a multi -- buy a 5,000 IU capsules of D-3 and take one a day or 7 once a week.
All you need to know: www.vitamindcouncil.org.
JohnnyFontane7 6y ago
so many different Supplement Options. I take the 5000 IU with olive oil number one from Amazon but a friend says that the reviews are all lies as its synthetic and not made from whole foods. IDK. Which Supplement do you take/Recommend for the D??
Kent_Kinky 6y ago
Good call. The biggest benefit for me was the calcium absorption. Took a doctor prescribed megadose of vitamin d for a certain number of weeks and my calcium levels shot through the roof.
vitringur 6y ago
But what if I don't consider any of these to be a serious problem for me?
jeddzus 6y ago
Then you are superior to me. Obviously.
vitringur 6y ago
Or maybe I don't have a vitamin D deficiency.
SpaceEnthusiast 6y ago
The stack you should take is something like Vitamin D3 + Vitamin K1 + Magnesium, for best effects. Careful with the Calcium too.
BigMawsmidget 6y ago
Honestly think vitamin deficiency across the board is understated. I've heard people use the saying "multivitamins are expensive urine", but my own opinion disregard those people if you're deficient in anything a high quality multivitamin will help, but it's only a tool. Still have to get most of it from foods.
BurningOrangeHeaven 6y ago
Its been proven taking vitamins had a fractional effect compared to eatting fruits etc and absorbing the nutrients that way. So in a way vitamins are just expensive piss.
markdumte 6y ago
If you eat enough vegetables, and you should, you are getting more than you need of most vitamins and minerals. The vitamins in vegetables are more bioavailable than from artificial sources. You also get a lot of fiber and other non essential micro nutrients, that help a lot that you don't get with multivitamin supplements.
Instead of taking a multivitamin, it is much better if you increase the amount of vegetables you take, for example by taking a daily vegetable/fruit shake.
The exception is vitamin D as it is not present in any vegetable or fruit. You can find it only in some mushrooms and in cod liver. In general, the body relies on the skin production when the sun hits. But because we don't get that much sun in our lifestyles anymore, it makes sense to add vitamin D supplement.
But vitamin D is the exception. If you have vitamin deficiency it is much better to increase your vegetable and fruit intake.
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markdumte 6y ago
That's interesting, I'll have to look into it.
fullspeedornothing- 6y ago
Personally, I've been taking Beyond Tangy Tangerine 2.0 for about 18 months. There's probably other great manufacturers, but if you're short on time / don't want to do that much research, I would recommend ordering a cannister of that powder. There's a good chance you'll be taking it for a long time.
THEnimble_mongoose 6y ago
Don't we only need something like 20 minutes a day in the sunlight to get the vitamin D we need?
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I’m not sure about that. Both of us run in the sun, lay out every weekend in the summer and are generally outside a lot. Our levels were still low.
markdumte 6y ago
That is usually the minimum recommended that prevents your body from malfunction, but usually the optimum is much higher. Just go and get a blood analysis to check. They are usually included in most insurances, so you don't go around guessing.
Also, sun makes the skin age quicker and increases the chances of cancer. I wear sunscreen daily, even in winter. So moderate amounts of sun with vitamin d supplements is a much better overall approach IMO.
beginner_ 6y ago
Plus minus but with a lot of skin exposure while it below freezing. Eg. Most people wont get enough.
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GloriousGardener 6y ago
That might not be a problem in california. It is in canada though.
Run_Che 6y ago
20 minutes on full/naked body and not just face/hands? What time in the day/year since sun isn't always the same intensity? What about the days when it's cloudy or when you don't leave house during the day. What about living in far north/south countries where sunlight isn't as strong by default..
Chances are, you need it suplemented.
THEnimble_mongoose 6y ago
I live in Los Angeles.
I am pretty sure just exposure to the sun on your face and arms will get you the vitamin D you need, you don't have to be fully naked to max out or anything like that lol. It's vaguely similar to how plants absorb sunlight, the whole plant doesn't need to be exposed to sunlight in order to receive the vitamin D it needs, same with humans and animals.
antariusz 6y ago
Great, now imagine it’s 20 degrees outside so you cover most of your body, and then imagine the little sun you get is only 30% as powerful.
You are the exceptional one, living in LA most places in the world get less sunlight.
maxofreddit 6y ago
So... those Santa-Monica-lunch-time-naked-beach-runs I'm planning... overkill?
Marsupian 6y ago
That is when you go with the current insanely low recommended daily intake. That number is based on preventing rickets, not achieving optimal health. There is a lot of shit that goes bad before you develop rickets.
This is a common problem with these recommendations. They are based on preventing disease instead of optimizing health and performance.
If you want to get a better idea of whether supplementation is beneficial and at what dosage go to examine.com for more in-depth info.
THEnimble_mongoose 6y ago
hmm ok so is it better to walk around outside shirtless or in a tank top than it would be in a long sleeve shirt? What is the optimal amount of sunlight?
chrisname 6y ago
Enough to have a light tan on most of your body, not enough to have gotten burned. You have to balance vitamin D with cancer.
Marsupian 6y ago
There is no one optimal amount of sunlight. It depends on location, season, time of day, skin color, weight, dietary vitD intake, etc.
There are calculators online that can give a decent indication. Also you don't need optimal levels every day. It's fine to get more vitD one week and less in the next week.
ValuePrestige 6y ago
What is a good multivitamin?
BigMawsmidget 6y ago
Right now I'm taking something called Thorne Research I recommend that one, but it's expensive for a month supply. That's really the big catch around 62 dollars on Amazon it's two bottles an A.M and P.M, but for the dosage combined that's what sold me.
Most multivitamin have low vitamin D for example or even vitamin c this one has 2500 iu for vit D and think 350 for vit C.
As I stated used as a tool this is awesome if a bit expensive.
ATrashMan 6y ago
counter point tried taking the thorne research 1 and it made me feel like shit so i stopped.
BigMawsmidget 6y ago
Are you eating before taking it cause so far I have no side effects to speak of.
ATrashMan 6y ago
yes. it gave me a brain fog like feeling where it was hard to think clearly. after i removed that supplement all issues stopped.
BigMawsmidget 6y ago
I haven't had that issue at all maybe it's just a particular ingredient they used. Although always open to suggestions for better one I don't trust any one company, but if you give a suggestion don't like it be something like One a day.
revente 6y ago
Multivitamins might be but a good grade of medical d3 is very reccomended. Obviously its still best to get proper levels via sunlight exposure.
Rabbit-Punch 6y ago
It takes like 3 hours in the sun to get enough vitamin D, not the 15 min lie
FinallyRed 6y ago
You can't make a blanket statement like that. It will depend on where you live, the time of year, your skin pigmentation, and how much of your body is exposed. Plenty of people do live north enough that there is very little radiation and their bodies will be mostly covered up for most of the year, so the conclusion is pretty much the same for most people.
adam_varg 6y ago
in europe it would take 8-12hours per day being topless outside year round for most men..
cali, flo.. not being basement dweller is enough on other hand
depends on how far from equator you live
Rabbit-Punch 6y ago
myself and many other Californians that spend over an hour in the sun a day disagree
adam_varg 6y ago
Sure, its individual.
My point was those 15min-2h time frames are for most whities living at such locations. Nigerian living behind polar circle in Finland can be outside naked 24/7/365 and still deficient.
lotikpotik 6y ago
Yikes, how far up in your ass did u have dig to pull out something like this.
adam_varg 6y ago
Researching it up mr Dunning Kruger. Backed up by my own experience since i pretty much spend weekend like that plus some tanning bed and still needed to double my serum levels with supps. More or less same story for all locals one of my docs is caring for.
lotikpotik 6y ago
lol, i like how u say this, yet there's a guy in the comments who said u get like 10k UI from 10 minutes of sun and he got upvoted. Some pretty nice herd mentality going on here.
adam_varg 6y ago
i can see it happening too.. some pale ass living at equator
Ill_Will7 6y ago
before i read this, i thought by vitamin D, you meant the importance of giving HER the vitamin D.
IdoNtEvEnWaTz 6y ago
I started growing some chest hair after taking vitamin d lol.
jeddzus 6y ago
This made me LOL. Is this really true? How old were you when you started taking it?
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Deezney 6y ago
You literally made me get up and get some Vitamin D today lol
30fretibanezguy 6y ago
Few weeks ago self prescribed zinc, then iron, then vitamin D (to see cumulative effects of each).
The zinc got my sex drive and drive to deliver intensity in the gym more. The iron massively improved my mood and ability to keep away from watching YouTube to pass the time. And the vitamin D seemed to make me feel genuinely better in general (I know, vague, but its true, physically and mentally).
I found those three supplements from my own research on what I should be taking and why. I reccomend everyone goes on their own journey to see what vitamins and minerals they see change from.
SpaceEnthusiast 6y ago
People should be very careful with Iron supplementation!
jeddzus 6y ago
Weird wild stuff. I wonder how much of that could possibly be placebo? Not saying your lying, but sometimes it's hard to tell, I was unsure if my improvements were placebo or not for a while. Until I tried starting then stopping a few times and noticed an immediate difference. I'll look into the zinc and iron too, I'm probably deficient because I eat garbage food and in insufficient amounts too. I really need to improve my diet to start showing my gym gains more.
30fretibanezguy 6y ago
Hey you could well be right. I based my findings based on what I read the vitamins were supposed to do and compared it to myself so I definitely lack proper objectivity whether its true or not.
jeddzus 6y ago
Hey whatever works for you man, all that matters is you're feeling better, less sedentary, and more intense at the gym. Keep on
Duzand 6y ago
Love it man.
HIGHER FUCKING TESTOSTERONE LEVELS & LOWER ESTROGEN FUCKS
PROMOTES DAYTIME FUCKING WAKEFULNESS & BETTER NIGHT TIME SLEEP QUALITY
BOOSTS YOUR FUCKING IMMUNE SYSTEM
PROMOTES MOTHERFUCKING MUSCLE STRENGTH & INTEGRITY
HELPS YOUR FUCKING DICK
MAINTAINS THAT FUCKING BONE HEALTH
PROTECTS AGAINST FUCKING ALZHEIMER'S
WE DON'T GET ENOUGH FUCKING SUNLIGHT
I'm motivated as shit right now.
jeddzus 6y ago
Lol, you know I loves me some capitalization overuse!
cyanidez 6y ago
Thanks for sharing man. The only person who is going to take care of you, is YOU.
NotMeUsee 6y ago
I had the same diagnosis. Started taking vitamin D and am thinking more clearly and have way more energy.
jeddzus 6y ago
Yeah man, the change was large enough to motivate me to make this post lol
RonieGarret 6y ago
I resigned from pills and now I'm taking D in liquid form: dissolved in oil. If you have to stay with pills, take them with some fat (eg. yolk).
I never supplement D3 alone, always with K2.
Good mood guaranteed.
ATrashMan 6y ago
what supplement of k2 and how much?
xAkdas 6y ago
That oil form tastes disgusting man
JaxHerer 6y ago
Oil capsules for the ballers
jeddzus 6y ago
Gotta look into K2 supplementing, thanks for the heads up
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BigMawsmidget 6y ago
Yeah they help each other think there is another vitamin that works like that.
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tittyman1 6y ago
I believe high doses of d3 can lead to calcification in the bones, k2 counteracts this side effect.
Ochreata 6y ago
D3 increases calcium uptake, K2 activates the glutamyl carboxylase enzymes that activate the Gla and matrix Gla (MGP) proteins which regulate where calcium goes. Osteocalcin sends calcium to the bones, other MGPs prevent calcium being deposited in soft tissue, ie it is the major calcification inhibitor of the arterial wall.
drunksaver 6y ago
Almost everyone that works inside is VitD deficient. Especially during the winter.
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Seven_Veils 6y ago
Good thing I live in Florida
redpilldick 6y ago
What's the best way to hit all the bases with multivitamins (ADEK Zinc B6 B12 etc)? Many single pill supplements don't have the best bioavailability
jeddzus 6y ago
Consult with your doctor. Don't just take blanket multivitamins for the hell of it. Get testing if you show symptoms of things being "off."
BornShook 6y ago
The best way would be to have a well balanced diet, but I agree with op. Consult your doctor, and if youre low on any vitamin levels, supplement for those
valerioluc 6y ago
I would never take advice for health on trp, it's not the right channel, the vast majority here is the casual gym bro at the best, no saying that this advice in particular is bad, but could lead to unbalanced values of the vitamin d (which alone do shit if you don't go to the sun) and other nutrients
jeddzus 6y ago
Actual quote from my post "Get a blood test, make sure you aren't deficient in shit anything. Taking vitamins and minerals just "because they're good for me RIGHT!?" is dumb as hell. Find out for sure. Fix your shit. Fix yourself. Grow and improve" I explicitly said don't just take it to take it. I'm just saying if you show some of these symptoms you could possibly be suffering from this and it really sucks to be deficient in it.
valerioluc 6y ago
It's not that simple, research has to go further than blood test, if you are deficient in something you are going to make more damage trying to address it by simply taking a supplement than if you stay like now. First of all the form of vit d you can use without the sun it's d3, if you take d without sun means shit, secondly, as for the dosage of d3 you are using you have to address magnesium an k2 AT LEAST, should be a rule of the sub to not make this kind of post.
jeddzus 6y ago
If you're getting a blood test, a doctor is going to give you recommendations. I don't think recommending to people they get a blood test and fix their health issues is such an injurious post.
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Hyper_Sonik 6y ago
Be careful, I read that vitamin D can actually pull calcium from your bones and lead to osteoporosis. But yeah, vitamin D is definitely important.
ninnu 6y ago
you need magnesium to go with vit D(also something a lot of people are deficient in) and definitely vit K if you use high doses of vit D
Run_Che 6y ago
Isn't it other way around? You got source?
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rgmw 6y ago
I understand, and I take, that D3 should be taking with K2 to maximize D3, and I believe to reduce or eliminate side effects that can be brought on by taking only vitamin D.
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tibikush2012 6y ago
I think it is extremely overstated how important this vitamin is... Northren europeans throughout history did just fine even though they rarely get any sun (they were bigger and stronger than the rest of the people on the planet).
jeddzus 6y ago
Every study of course needs to be taken with a grain of salt, they often don't apply to EVERY person. That's why I included my personal anecdote as well. A lot of evolutionary scientists conclude that Northern Europeans skin makeup and ability to digest milk were shaped literally by the need for better Vitamin D absorption. Source: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin
Run_Che 6y ago
Gotta have that fish died though.
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Just today I took a little bit of sunlight in a lot of time due to bad weather and I already feel better.
cesar-perez 6y ago
Vitamin D should be classified as a steroid.
MortalSisyphus 6y ago
You say "fuck" a lot. Once or twice is okay but if you keep repeating it, it sounds lazy and ignorant. No offense, just a word of advice.
jeddzus 6y ago
Thanks for the vocab coaching, but I don't want it, let me stay internet ignorant.
EL_TATICH 6y ago
Insulting that much makes OP looks like a 14 yo trying to give advices here.
jeddzus 6y ago
I said "in the beginning us beta fucks need all the help we can get." In the beginning of TRP, those people tend to be beta who need all the help they can get, no? It's just humorous I don't get what's so offensive lol, it's like when R. Lee Ermey calls male troops a bunch of skirt wearing ladies. It's just a joke.
EL_TATICH 6y ago
Lol, chill dude, we didn't say it was offensive, it just make you sound like a child.
assholeofthesky 6y ago
Stop trying to shame people mate, we only need the help, we don't need to be told we're fucking beta.
Good work on telling people to look at their vitamin D deficiency though
Run_Che 6y ago
Why not, part of not being a beta is not giving a shit about random stranger on net telling you ur a beta. You know, the whole, don't be a snowflake thing.
assholeofthesky 6y ago
Because aren't we supposed to be using this as a way to improve mankind, not degenerate into being bitches for the sake of internet brownie points.
Men should help men become men.
jeddzus 6y ago
Haha I'm not trying to shame people, wasn't my intention, was just making a joke - slightly self deprecating. I actually don't consider myself beta at all. Maybe it's a habit from my alcoholics anonymous days.... who knows.
assholeofthesky 6y ago
Beta anonymous.
Fair play though man, sometimes anger is easier to bring out when talking about the beta actions. vitamin D is helpful regardless though and i'm pretty sure that a lot of people are struggling because of the way we have to work indoors as apposed to our natural state = outside
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aga080 6y ago
This is correct, an adult male should be taking 5000-10000IU of Vitamin D per day. the "daily" amount written on bottles is all wrong, the correct amount is 10 times higher
NormanoSilurian 6y ago
Jesus Christ shut up you're full of shit. The toxic level starts at 3,000 units daily. Megadoses are safe in the short-term only. A daily dose of 1,000 units is correct.
Excessive dosing can lead to hypercalcemia, which results in a whole array of trouble.
sadshark 6y ago
20 minutes in sunlight gives 20k ui and you're telling me that 3k causes toxicity? There have been reports of people with deficit taking 25k-50k per day for months.
aga080 6y ago
wow..someone is triggered. Traditional amounts and also FUD like it causing hypercalcemia is a thing of the past. I will stick with new research as well as the advice of the members of my family, which is filled with about 2 dozen doctors. Sorry that you got so butthurt about some vitamin D.
NormanoSilurian 6y ago
Don't give advice on dosing (especially when it contradicts the instructions on the container) unless you are medically qualified. Having a relative who is medically qualified doesn't count.
aga080 6y ago
What you dont understand is that the instructions on the containers are wrong. In the future I hope you look back at this conversation and realize how much of an idiot you were. This entire country does not take enough vitamin D.
NormanoSilurian 6y ago
You are absolutely correct in saying there is a massive, major problem with Vit D deficiency in the general population. Modern humans are not exposed to the amount sunlight which ancient humans have always enjoyed. I personally believe that everyone living a western indoor lifestyle should be taking Vit D3 daily. At least we agree on that!
RxDrugEvent 6y ago
So I got 10,000 IU here and I'm ready to pop it, which amount is it?
rgmw 6y ago
Definitely a lot to it... We're often short of needed nutrients by virtue of not being outside enough. Other factors are bad food choices (including but not limited to, GMO food, junk food, artificial sweeteners).
Take vitamin D3 and K2 together for improving the effects of D3.
Although my doctor found I was low on D, the real magic didn't begin until I went to a natru-path. (Disclaimer: shop carefully for one... Many are in it for the money or can give you bad info and/or hurt you). At the natru-path, I found I was significantly low on L-tyrosine. I've felt a lot better since. The NP/ND aren't covered by insurance, so I've spent about $800 out of pocket. But it has been worth every penny. (this amount includes only 2 appts and 1 test)
jeddzus 6y ago
Yeah I know, the processed food and sugar especially are def my next targets. Really hard to make the change all at once and I'm still getting adjusted to gym 3-4 times a week + no soda lol. Can't take too much at one time. I'll check out the natru-path tho, thanks for the heads up. I used to not believe in a lot of that shit but I've since found sometimes they really know their shit.
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rasgaroht 6y ago
vitamin D is link with better absoption of calcium and magnesium, which are linked to T synthesis. But it sure isn't the only factor
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jeddzus 6y ago
Your single testimony isn't blanket scientific proof. I provided scientific studies. They're in the sources, they're referenced. If you choose to ignore them, do your own thing man.
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otter6461a 6y ago
“Your studies are trash.” What redditors say when data is supplied that they don’t agree with.
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