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ItIsMyPrivilege

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At work somehow height got mentioned and girls seriously asked if many guys were under 6ft tall.

The bottom 80% are truly invisible. Dont worry if you're not tall, this is analogous to all kinds of SMV indicators.

Body:

Being tall or not doesn't matter 100%. If you're SMV is shit across the board you won't register to women.

At work some girls seriously thought 6ft plus was a norm. Probably like they think we all make 6 figures, have cool jobs, live awesome movie worthy exciting lives, you name it.

Summary:

Super short post, but hearing them confirm the invisibility of the majority of men was a little unreal.

Raise your SMV or you will almost literally be invisible to women

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Im a tall dude but whenever one of the girls from work mention something negative about short guys even if they are a fucking dwarf themselves I get really pissed off. Like what you said it just instantly means alot of great men out there don't stand a chance for no fucking reason.

I usually respond to said girls with "yeh"

"I only like girls with skinny waists, a perfect face, a big fat ass and big perky tits"

I'm not this picky at all I just like them try to feel as worthless as those guys must feel as men in truth are not near as picky as most women.

Fucking dickheads

jimmyb207 9y ago

Those women are a perfect example of the TV trained mindset. Their world views, standardized perception of people, attitudes, the way they talk...even behavior and facial expressions all learned from the TV. They are usually pretty superficial people more worried about the way they look and numb as a box of rocks.

Losendos100 9y ago

It's called conformation bias, If 80% of men are invisible to you then the top 20% becomes the norm.

TBH. I really don't mind people doing this, because in all honesty I don't have time to feel pity for some bleeding heart beta who cries himself to sleep at night because he's 5'8. Plus, I do the SAME thing to most women. I'm pretty average looking, but I'm very athletic and a very well paid and sought after career.

Over 140lbs? Next. Crappy self-entitled personality? Next. Taken 1000 cocks? Next. No job/career? Next. Crazy eyes? Next. Won't suck by dick? Next. Moans about how much time I spend on my hobbies? Next. Won't shut up about her piddle-ass problems? Next.

Abundance mentality ftw.

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SunshineBlotters 9y ago

This answers why women claim to love "skinny" men. Because 180lbs at 5'10" is skinny to them, since they only notice the top 20%

penis_butter_n_jelly 9y ago

TP bros shouldn't hate. Women, even swamp donkeys legitimately have abundance. Yes, the well eventually dries up, but that's not the point. The point is, be in the top 20% (shit be in the top 5%) and then you can have the same mentality.

acartoontiger 9y ago

Swamp donkeys, new favorite descriptor.

*I know this adds nothing to the topic, but i literally laughed out loud. Nice

Appleseed12333 9y ago

I see it as anyone overweight is just voluntarily removing themselves from the dating market. Can't be a potential partner if they don't want to be one.

What does annoy me is that everything you listed can be improved or avoided, yet height for men is fixed. That's coming from a average height male at 5'8"

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While I agree with you, seeing as I'm only 5'9, I actually do something similar. I don't find girls above 5'6 very attractive at all and any LTR I've ever had has been shorter than 5'3. Yeah, it's frustrating that you can't control height, there's plenty of things they can't control either (like being ugly) just be thankful you were born with a dick and can make up any genetic imperfections you have with personality, status, money and getting in shape.

5t3fan0 9y ago

once in a while i find myself thinking "wish i was taller/ had more hair-beard/ more simmetrical face" .... then i remember those born with leukemia or hiv or something else that one day will just pop-dead

AAAND suddenly i realize im a fucking lucky idiot with the goddamn best genetic i could wish for (and i also feel like crying a bit for the unlucky ones)

Lionstrong 9y ago

I'm literally 5 feet tall and my wife is almost 6 feet. Height isn't a fucking make or break factor. Be witty, charming, attractive, confident, well groomed, and have some direction. Girls love confident men who pursue clear goals. That is the one constant I always observe. Will some girls straight up not want you because you are short? Sure. But some girls will see you hold frame amongst peers much bigger then you and be impressed. I literally have people at my job think I'm older then I am because of how I conduct myself and there are both women and men my age there.

Take my wife for example. She approached me and stole my lunch in college. Probably some sort of shit test to see what she would get away with. Most guys would laugh it off or try to open conversation on her terms. Maybe she saw a small guy and wanted to see if she could take charge. Some guys would not know how to respond. I told her because she took my lunch, now she owed me dinner. That night. Of course she said yes.

The point is, in my experience, frame conquers all. Including the frame of knowing when to disengage from a group where your SMV might suffer being with them. (Not being included in conversations, stuck on periphery of group, etc.)

SittinOnTheDock 9y ago

Haha your response made me laugh, well done! Would you be willing to tell me how you conduct yourself at work? I'm entering the workforce and I'd love to know.

Lionstrong 9y ago

Dress professionally. If its a white collar job, wear a suit. Always. Make sure it fits correctly and your ties are appropriate. None of these stupid gimmicky ties. Plain solid colors, stripes, or Paisley. No others are acceptable in my opinion. Especially if your colleagues don't. I have been in work environments where men would wear polo shirts, khakis, button ups with no ties.... I always wore a suit. If your colleagues try to give you "friendly advice" like how you don't have to wear a suit, politely thank them but tell them you prefer wearing suits. Don't give a non committal answer; own your decision.

Answer questions if you know the answer, ask for clarification if you don't. Don't be on eggshells around bosses or directors. Be cordial with colleagues but don't act like best friends. Don't speak like you are in a rush to get words out. Take your time answering. Take pauses instead of filling dead air with "Ummm". Walk with your back straight and keep your head up. Literally keep your head up, none of this eyes on the ground bullshit.

Benny757 9y ago

I'm 5'8 as well (actually 7 3/4's but damned if I'll give up my 5'8.) There are a couple of things we can do as short guys. Posture can be improved and holding our head high and eyes firm can help. but another thing we can do is wear the right shoes. Find boots with a good heal. You can gain over a good inch and styles are everywhere. Check out the reviews for products under the search "shoe lifts" on a m a z o n. Add to boots and you gain two to three inches. I'm now a 5'9 to 5'10 man. Minimal discomfort. Worth a try.

roeddit 9y ago

What are some more summer-appropriate shoes that have a bit extra height?

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unorthodox-solutions 9y ago

What happens when you bring her over, take off your shoes, and you're suddenly 3 inches shorter?

Coming from a 5'6" - 5'7".

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you're already in bed so who cares?

squidracer 9y ago

After she takes off her heels she won't notice

bornredd 9y ago

In America, this shouldn't be an issue. We don't have a cultural taboo on shoes in the home. Take off your shoes when you hit the sack.

If you live in Japan, ok - but I doubt they want every man there to be over 6'.

Appleseed12333 9y ago

We're NOT short. Its the average lol.

garlicextract 9y ago

5'10" is average, 5'8" is shorter than average. I'm shorter than that but this is how people look at it.

Appleseed12333 9y ago

http://www.averageheight.co/average-male-height-by-country

With 24 upvotes, I would think you would take the 5 seconds to check to see if you were right. You're not, but I'm not either. Apparently its 5,9 for Americans with Canadians (me) being fraction of a inch shorter

garlicextract 9y ago

Regardless, 5'8" is shorter than average height. And I did check google where the first link claims 5'10" is average height. The CDC lists it as 5'9.3" however.

atifhere 9y ago

From my experience the change thing for me was much easier to achieve than fat girls. I'm 5'5" and was always shit tested or simply reminded about it by both men and women, my childhood girl friend often called me manlet and even told me that she says to her friends that I am like a little sister to her. Surely it was all painful, but still even on my BP days I used to face this humiliation like a man and never let them know that this stuff kills me from inside. Especially hearing such stuff from my childhood friend used to give me physical pain; I clearly felt the pain in my back as if someone was stabbing with knives.

Now things have turned out in such way the very same friend have told me few weeks ago that she is willing to forget her Muslim values just to please me and fulfill my needs.

The only thing I needed to change was my mindset by swallowing TRP, which is virtually free of cost. While the fat girls out there need to do some serious sacrifice.

The only lesson I want anyone to learn from this anecdote is to stop making excuses. Yes, height matters and statistically short people are less probable of success in dating and career. After accepting this one of the many harsh reality you have choice to either get depressed and blame all the failures in your life of your short height, or just start fighting harder.

Yeah I know some whiners would say that ok I'll put some extra efforts, but its so depressing and unfair that I have to put extra efforts to get the same or less result which chad gets by not even trying. Welcome to the world kid! Life's unfair, fucking get over it. You are already taking so many things for granted, you could been born with a chad genes but into a Muslim household, and probably died a virgin by blowing yourself up...

You cannot increase your height but you can increase the size of your biceps. You'll be surprised how big biceps compensate for all the shortcomings in you. You'll face existential crisis when you'll see women approaching you for your biceps and this is the time you'll realize that your intellect means shit to them, which required more devotion in developing than the biceps. World is superficial brah! Stay safe brah! sloots everywhere

scissor_me_timbers00 9y ago

A good intellect is mighty attractive to some women. Biceps might get you in the door, but a dazzling intellect will hold a woman's attentions for years, if not decades. (Not all women, of course, but some good ones)

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Snazzy_Serval 9y ago

What did you change to start succeeding with women?

You mentioned getting bigger biceps, what else?

I'm also 5'5 and I need to make a dramatic change to stop failing with women but I don't know what to do besides work out.

atifhere 9y ago

I had a terrible breakup, and right after that I came across this subreddit. All the literature confirming my doubts about women had put in an anger phase, I became nihilistic in the true sense. I just couldn't at that time look at any woman and feel any respect towards them even if I tried hard to. I just noticed that women start liking me because I was acting so much naturally dominant towards them. This was the most counter-intutive thing I witnessed in my life; I am not caring about the happiness of women for the first time, and for the first time I can see the joy in their eyes for having me around. I started treating my friend like if she's my property and told her that I would break contact if she don't fulfill my demands, and I really meant that. She couldn't understand what have happened to me, but I could clearly notice the tingles she was getting.

Due to receiving so much attention from women in such short time, I again started giving shit about them and soon my anger phase vanished. Now I have to put efforts to emulate such behavior, but it is getting the work done.

My social conditioning is still making me feel bad to give you this advice: Don't respect women from the bottom of your heart. Not their intellect nor their skills nor their achievements..

It just breaks my heart that women are turned off by respect, and I have to act psychopathic to make them happy. They would tell you the otherwise, but soon you'll see in their smile they are trying to hide, that the truth is something else.

garlicextract 9y ago

, my childhood girl friend often called me manlet and even told me that she says to her friends that I am like a little sister to her.

the fuck did you take that shit for

and you said you're now hooking up with her; I hope you rubbed that back in her face about 'manlet' and 'little sister'

atifhere 9y ago

the fuck did you take that shit for

Just being on blue pill

She now knows that now she is nothing for me but a sex object. Just a month ago she told me her fantasy of running away from her family and marrying me. Actually it was a shit+comfort test, and she was expecting from me to say that I want that to happen, it would have increased her value in her own eyes. I instead laughed and said that how the hell women can expect men to respect them when they are willing to throw away the honor of that man who fed them and loved them unconditionally; that is their fathers. At that time I had the urge to jokingly tell her that what the hell her friends would say to you if we actually get married, that hey you married your little sister. I didn't say it because I know it stems from the part that is angry and vengeful, and I think I am better than that. And I would probably come off as defensive, passive aggressive or insecure.

gareiu 9y ago

you can attain height, just collect 20-30k and undergo LL overseas.

also, is it the same girl? who called you a manlet?

I'm insecure as well, heck, I want to find comfortable height increase for my shoes. I can't even walk barefoot in an office I'd look like a hobbit.

psyching out from heightism is the worst scenario.

atifhere 9y ago

I have fantasized about it for days that how undergoing limb lengthening surgery would absolutely change the way people perceive me and how I'll attain success effortlessly.

Dude! this is just escapism, and these thoughts have brought more depression. I am pretty sure that when i'll have such abundant money to waste I would have already have lost the little remaining lust to attain height to get chicks.

Yeah its the same girl who used to call me manlet. It surprises me that now when she or others praises my body, height doesn't even come as a factor. Before people would say things like that I could have easily become a model or actor only if I was tall. When I was working as a teacher, the principal even overtly told me that only if I was tall I would have come off as so dominant. Long story short, people could see my celebrity like face and charm, but were confused that why they can't still consider me alpha. They would rationalize it with the lack of height, which is partially kind of true, but after swallowing TRP I realized that it wasn't the direct cause.

Now that I lift and act dominant, their slopist mind just don't associate anything with me that is viewed inferior. People either respect you, or they don't. If they respect you then short height would be invisible to them or it will become a positive quality of your. Just like people would say about my gym trainer that look despite of being shorter than everyone here, he is the most alpha, he must be awesome.

If they don't respect you, then even your success would be credited to the napoleon complex. People would say things like you make more money because you are insecure and want to compensate your lack of height with fancy cars and big home.

People are willing to go to lengths to rationalize that why or why not they respect you.

gareiu 9y ago

You don't have to fantasize about it, start doing research about it, just keep it as some backlog behind your safe. Do a reading once a month then start collecting, you'll get there.

atifhere 9y ago

From what I've researched I need $40k-50k for a risk free surgery to gain 3 inches. From where I live, I can have a beautiful apartment or can start a good business with this amount. So it would be a pretty complicated decision unless I have abundance of money flow.

5'8" height would be awesome for me. By wearing my current normal shoes I would appear 5'10", and by wearing shoe lifts I could become 6 ft. So my point is that LL surgery would always remain an option for no matter how much I feel secure myself. Its a bonus kind of thing

gareiu 9y ago

lol it's just height though buddy... Spread your network, if I were you I'd dump that lady just my opinion. Peace

atifhere 9y ago

I say that its super important for guys like me to wear shoe lifts in office. I currently wear just normal sandals that have thick soles. It might make unnoticeable difference but knowing that I have the extra 1 or 2 inches have made me as tall as Tom Cruise, gives me placebo effect and I get a huge confidence boost, the insecurity just become non-existant.

When I'll go to the office environment I have planned to try this method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il4jLHNXmsU

It looks pretty comfy and the method is also cheap.

gareiu 9y ago

It might make unnoticeable difference but knowing that I have the extra 1 or 2 inches have made me as tall as Tom Cruise, gives me placebo effect and I get a huge confidence boost, the insecurity just become non-existant.

me too, honestly, I just don't get why people throw sour at guys like us trying to just get shoes with +2". It actually gives me a boost because natually men are suppose to feel bigger and masculinity doesn't appear when everyone is bigger than you

also, please consider this... Your soles will hurt like hell with this method. Why not insert additional wood below, or a heel below? This really doesn't work if your shoe size is 1-2 inches close to your actual size and it's really really difficult for me to walk with lifts inside.

do you have a shoe you recommend that is super comfortable? they rarely make lifts from the bottom. I can barely get why they think putting rubber lifts inside is a good idea, it ruins and distributes pain through the feet because rubber is unequal

atifhere 9y ago

I would do the same thing as done in the video, except I won't be putting those cup things, its insane and it would hurt. And instead of using lift I would just put women's flip flop that are ~2-3 inch thick. That would be probably comfortable enough. And it would be cheapest, so its no harm in experimenting.

The ones with the lifts from the bottom looks super ugly, I won't never wear them. Just buy big shoes and put the flip flops inside

Don't listen to people, they would mock you for your height and when you will tell them that you want to change something about it they will tell you oh you are beautiful just the way you are. The fact is their primal brain would always prefer the taller version of you, the rational one can be made to say anything, but the fact remains the fact.

At 19 years of age I knew my bone plates are going to be locked forever in few months and I have the last chance to do something, I gone to the doctor and told him to prescribe me growth hormones, he shamed me for straight 10 minutes that how I am interfering god's decision and how much I am weak and insecure to even think about it, I got so demotivated that I didn't even gone to the other doctor. I now want to kill that motherfucker doctor, fuck him! It is the biggest regret of my life to listen to that motherfucker.

I say do whatever the fuck you want, be the best version of yourself, don't listen to the rationalizations of other people. Wear elevator shoes, even Brad Pitt wear it. Yes! even the man who is considered aesthetically most superior wears it.

gareiu 9y ago

Dude there's still LL. Get some 30k and then take 8 months off.

Do you have a suggestion of comfortable shoes for lifts? I think the wider the better? That's what I've been reading. I've been wearing height brand shoes for a year and they just collapse. Companies taking advantage of insecurity, it's horrible.

ItIsMyPrivilege 9y ago

That and dick size, but can't control either.

It sucks but what can you do besides raise SMV in all areas controllable

gareiu 9y ago

you know this might get buried here but I'd like to chime in from my office experience

woman who looks like she can be over 30 said she couldn't see me because I was "little/small". I don't exactly quite recall what happened, but this sort of scenario caught the attention of my cubicle mate, he's about 5'10- African American and he was basically chiming it, saying that, yea who do you not see who is not 6'? Like he's saying that men should be at least 5'11.

The lady then said: It's okay, I like short guys.

This caught my attention, my cubicle mate is probably just the product of the whole media-women BS. He does like to call himself integrated in mainstream and often dresses in high fashion. This makes me wonder though, what change can I make from this?

What can you guys take from this?

Tman5691 9y ago

Well, women can't accurately access dick size either...if she's got the hots for you then you're hung, if she's repulsed then you have a micro.

Rasalom72 9y ago

Let's be realistic... both can be controlled if you are willing to shell out the cash, and pay the piper in pain.

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Derbi50 9y ago

Dick size can be improved slowly with dick exercises and if you are willing to have your legs broken you can be made taller, so technically you are right.

I knew a dwarf once that had his long bones broken and I think they put some kind of metal rods in to make his arms/legs longer.

But don't fuck around with those dick implants. They ad only a small amount to your dick and the chance of complications are substantial and the complications are a horror show.

Seriously, I saw some pictures from a dude over at thundersplace who had issues. It was probably the most horrible thing I have ever seen in my life, and I have seen people die.

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gareiu 9y ago

realistic, but it's factual LL is a method done by many

Rasalom72 9y ago

While not available to everyone.. if it was important enough to someone, it is available. I didn't say it would be easy, or practical.. just that it's realistically possible.

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unorthodox-solutions 9y ago

What is it exactly that you're referring to?

I'm not going to take HGOs or anything that could bite me down the road.

Health and wellbeing > pussy.

Derbi50 9y ago

I do dick exercises and have seen gains to the order of a half an inch length and about a quarter inch girth.

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OscarWhisky 9y ago

I think you're confusing the ideas of 'realistic' and 'exists in reality'.

gareiu 9y ago

it's not realistic if the individual/dude don't have at least 30k to dish out in LL, and maybe 20k for that penile enlargement mission

OscarWhisky 9y ago

I always thought the money was the least damning aspect of leg lengthening surgery.

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Losendos100 9y ago

I agree, it's massively unfair. Especially when most women look like absolute troglodytes who are in no position to select a potential mate based on something as arbitrary as height.

But you can't change biology. Height is a desirable trait for a man to have. More height = more strength = better ability to take care of her = blood rushing to her sex hole.

If you can't change something, there's no point in moaning/whining about it. Focus on your talents, your career prospects, your hobbies, your wealth, and I guarantee the bitches will come flocking.

Put it this way, Mark Zuckerberg is a short-arsed Jew who dresses like a Wow player. Yet I bet you that when he was single women were THROWING themselves at him. And do you think any of those girls gave a crap that he's 5'8? Nope.

always-be-closing 9y ago

And do you think any of those girls gave a crap that he's 5'8? Nope.

Conor McGregor, I believe, is all of 5'9''

"Oh, I suppose he would have so much trouble with women if you took away his fame

No physical fitness, no charm, no confidence! I bet he was awful with women before he was well known" - - BPers everywhere

gareiu 9y ago

dudes... 5'9 isn't even that short

try 5'5 and under, people here are just whiners. If you're 5'7+++ then please rethink your values

garlicextract 9y ago

5'9" is pretty average. Pacquiao at 5'5" is a much better example.

Appleseed12333 9y ago

I fully agree. More height = more strength. And attraction can't be negotiated. But I hate that even if I'm as strong as a tall guy, her sex drive will still prefer height (to a point ofc).

But no point complaining. So many other areas to compensate with.

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ljsjdoj009e9we 9y ago

Yet I bet you that when he was single women were THROWING themselves at him.

do you mean before facebook?

garlicextract 9y ago

No, he clearly means AFTER facebook, but WHILE he was single.

gareiu 9y ago

just a question

but does this have something to do on why women wear heals? I have a lady call me little when she's about 2-3 inches shorter than I am. I am very short but she's shorter!

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DforDeadpool 9y ago

Zuckerberg is a perfect BB candidate though.

garlicextract 9y ago

How is he beta? Because it fits your narrative and perception of him?

Any billionaire CEO is a ruthless, cutthroat alpha who would have you on your knees grovelling.

TheThingsIThink 9y ago

Let us note that he went with a first generation American, a Asian woman. He didn't go white, black, or Jewish. I hope it works out for him

DforDeadpool 9y ago

There are no unicorns in any nation though. Just relatively decent ones.

atifhere 9y ago

Its annoying to hear that Zuck or Bill Gates are beta. They might be Blue Pill, but they are not beta.

Zuckerberg being already seen as powerful elitist dictator, if he actually start acting like an alpha then facebook's PR would be doomed.

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dindunuffin94 9y ago

Mark Zuckerberg also has billions of dollars, it's not realistic to assert that the average man who is under 6 feet in height can attain his wealth or influence that makes him desirable to women to begin with.

PantsonFire1234 9y ago

That and Mark could never pound a women until she feels sore in the muscles.

garlicextract 9y ago

Oh yeah? You got some first-hand information on Mark Zuckerberg's penis size or something?

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iPCV 9y ago

Why the fuck up? She's probably good marriage material. Iirc she's a harvard med graduate. She doesn't look like the type going out fucking around and not stupid enough to do anything to fuck up hia business. A stay at home doctor raising my child with good intellect genes?

He has enough spare change to buy any fuck buddy he wants.

Ducksfornipples2 9y ago

intellect genes don't means shit. Sure you can get rich, but you'll be provider forever. Women in their prime will ignore you until they have no option left

iPCV 9y ago

In context we are talking about Mark Zuck not someone that is still trying to get rich.

dindunuffin94 9y ago

He couldn't do any better because he was 5'7

unorthodox-solutions 9y ago

Yes, but it is realistic to assert that the average man can, if he puts is mind to it, make millions. Welcome to the 21st Century — welcome to Capitalism.

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dindunuffin94 9y ago

Taller men make more money than shorter men on average, if the average man is capable of making millions won't taller men by that very logic just make more money and acquire all the women? Not that I believe the average person who "sets their mind to it" can just make millions of dollars to begin with.

How many millions have you yourself made this past year?

unorthodox-solutions 9y ago

Anyone who's making millions is working for himself, so the height bias immediately goes away. You make money based on what you bring to the marketplace.

Haven't reached the million dollar mark yet, but I've started a business when I was 14 which went on to make good money and employ 4 people part time (aged 23+), while going to school and all the rest.

Perhaps I'll get back to you in a few years. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's certainly possible.

dindunuffin94 9y ago

Anyone who's making millions is working for himself

Like athletes? Well most of those guys are over 6 foot so I suppose you're right in that regard

Perhaps I'll get back to you in a few years

Any man can build the physique of Arnold Schwarzenegger naturally given a great deal of time and effort. I haven't done so myself yet but I bench 2 plates currently, I'll get back to you in a few years.

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garlicextract 9y ago

No offense or anything, you're in good shape, but prime Arnold was a lot leaner than you are. A LOT leaner.

Of course Arnold was juicing, though.

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99639 9y ago

You do not understand steroids and bodybuilding at all. There are limits to how big a natural body builder can get. There are strictly tested natural shows, go look at the competitors. They're tiny. Arnold used and probably continues to use large amounts of anabolic steroids.

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yourpasswordissex420 9y ago

If your not attracted to someone it doesn't matter why. It's just life. Height weight, race, hell even income are all valid reasons to be uninterested in someone.

I get sick of people complaining about being short when I know several successful short people who get girls.

garlicextract 9y ago

You know they used to say (and still do) in the 1960s "I know a successful black man, i get sick of people complaining about being black when I know several black people who are successful"

yourpasswordissex420 9y ago

It's a disadvantage sure, but I dont care for hearing bros constantly complain about it.

scissor_me_timbers00 9y ago

Seriously. And a short guy with fine arm candy shows he's got serious balls.

herewehoagain 9y ago

Keep in mind they aren't great with spacial awareness, and what might actually be 5 10, in shoes, they'll think is 6 foot.

HAMMURABl 9y ago

"Are there really that many women over 30?"

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TonyB79 9y ago

Haha. Biggest laugh I've had all day. People are looking at me funny.

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Newdist2 9y ago

About ten years ago i innocently remarked that Pam from The Office was really hot for her age (the actress was 31 at the time).

Oh boy did I get shit on for that.

walking_ape 9y ago

Are there really that many girls over 30?

rebuildingMyself 9y ago

There's plenty of girls over 30. Women over 30, however...

AdrianWerner 9y ago

You want it to really hurt? Ask "Are there really that many unmarried women over 30"? :D

MasterUm 9y ago

Wow. Wow. Man, this is some ingenious shit. Wow. I event went through your comment history to see if you have anything else of this caliber to share.

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nobodyinparticu1ar 9y ago

120 would have been better

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FreeBeerandHotWings 9y ago

This question carries more weight.

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gareiu 9y ago

you know this might get buried here but I'd like to chime in from my office experience

The lady then said: It's okay, I like short guys.

What can you guys take from this?

atifhere 9y ago

At moment like these I give subtle covert sarcastic comeback that cuts through the soul of man and they realize it after few minutes.

If I were you I would have said that yeah some people don't even consider people with low IQ and different skin color to be even human, I hate those kind of people. What makes it more effective that the target would realize after a while what actually happened, and he would have no choice other than to swallow the anger, plus he would be more angry that he is fooled by you and he had just nodded his head on your statement which was said just to ridicule him.

garlicextract 9y ago

what I can make from it is I hope you said something back to her because that's kinda bullshit she said that to you in an office setting

sirbassist83 9y ago

where i live they are such an overwhelming majority you cant remain ignorant of it

afkb39sdfb 9y ago

That is an overwhelming majority where most of us live dude

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theDarkAngle 9y ago

Arent 60-70% of guys under 6 foot?

garlicextract 9y ago

85% in the united states, excluding elderly men, according to the CDC

trumpisafaggybeta 9y ago

It's really weird to hear about this stuff on reddit; most of the young women I encounter in my day-to-day life seem more or less fit, maybe a bit on the higher end of the normal weight, but I don't see full-blown hambeasts that often. Maybe it's because I live in a major city?

fingerthemoon 9y ago

Yeah man it's totally different in big cities. When I lived in SF most women were in their 20s and in good shape. 90% didn't smoke either. I probably didn't notice those who weren't though. Just invisible.

Also, I was in NYC last summer and in the span of an hour walking through Manhattan I saw more HB10s than I have throughout my entire life. There was at least 2 on every block.

Where I live now I see maybe 2 a year.

trumpisafaggybeta 9y ago

Yeah walking through NYC is definitely a hotty overload, that's for sure. It's like going from drinking out of a small pond to seeing a huge river-- makes you thirsty af for quality pussy after.

well-ok-then 9y ago

It's the same effect OP observed in the women in his office. less than 20% of the adult male population in the US is 6'. These women both don't notice mpst men and don't understand what 6' is. You don't notice most women and don't understand what overweight is. Like these women who think 5'11.5" is somewhat shorter than Danny DeVito, you apparently don't know what 150 lb is.

Philhelm 9y ago

I wish I had that condition. Everywhere I look, there are greasy fat women with a third breast hanging between their legs.

FreyWill 9y ago

Or you just don't notice the rest. And why would you.

Infinite_Red 9y ago

San Antonio/Dallas/Austin area here, so many you'd have to be blind to not see them.

sirbassist83 9y ago

which major city? im in a medium sized southern town.

trumpisafaggybeta 9y ago

Not giving out specific locations bud, sorry, but it's a pretty big and well-known city in the US.

Edit: Brigaded by BP fatties, I think

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PrinceofSpades 9y ago

Only reason you don't see them is because they spend all their time in their car, at their office desk, on their couch, or in their bed. 100% of their time.

Of course only more attractive people are out and about walking; you can order everything off amazon as a ham planet if you need to.

aazav 9y ago

I'll bet it houses a faggy beta who is all high-energy and sports a triple combover.

Sweet username by the way.

jb_trp 9y ago

"Are there really that many women over 120 lbs?"

Ajsarch 9y ago

I'm in NYC, the answer to that is NO unless they're over 6'.

StoicCrane 9y ago

What part of NY are you from? (Rhetorical question don't answer) About 60% I see put seawhales to shame.

garlicextract 9y ago

You are full of shit lmao. 34% of NYC is overweight and 22% obese, with similar numbers of men and women in the categories.

thatdometho 9y ago

Do you live in a middle school?

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keepyourkeys 9y ago

It's gotta hurt not understanding the world around you

Philhelm 9y ago

Haha! Apparently, I'm the only person who gets that.

Ducksfornipples2 9y ago

i don't get it. explain please

Philhelm 9y ago

"Are there really that many women over 120lbs?"

Response: "Do you live in a middle school?"

It was just a sarcastic response.

The original comment questioned whether there are really that many women who weigh over 120 lbs. It seems to me that most women (at least in the U.S., which is my point of reference) weigh over 120 lbs. A quick search stated that the average height and weight of a U.S. woman is 5'4" and 166.2 lbs. It's anyone's guess as to how accurate that statistic is, but I think it's safe to assume that 120 lbs. is below the average today.

Back to the response. Middle school girls are obviously smaller than adult women, and weigh less (obviously). By stating that he must live in a middle school implies that the original commenter is sheltered from the "real world," and has not therefore seen that the majority of adult women clearly weigh over 120 lbs.

As I said, it was just a sarcastic response. Another way to put it:

"Are there really that many women over 120 lbs?" "Dude, are you fucking kidding me? Most women weigh over 120 lbs! What, do you live in a middle school?"

It's not all that funny, but I don't understand why it would get almost 40 downvotes. It reminds me of the South Park episode when Kanye West didn't get the fish sticks joke.

Ducksfornipples2 9y ago

most women weighing over 120 isn't that common in most of the world. America is fat as fuck. 60% of women are obese. I read somewhere that the average women nowadays weighs as much as an overweight man in the 70s.

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nodoxsavefreespeech 9y ago

Hilarious but that would be totally lost on the average women. They don't even come close to possessing empathy for men.

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stonepimpletilists 9y ago

When the fuck did you want empathy?

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fingerthemoon 9y ago

I think you mean sympathy. Totally different.

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Wanderbrew 9y ago

I think you're confusing empathy with sympathy, junior. Settle down

stonepimpletilists 9y ago

Even worse. If you're looking to a woman to act like your mother, than one hasn't been learning anything here.

You can say the cleverest, wittiest comment ever to retort, but at the end of the day, a sympathetic woman is drier than the sand.

An empathic woman has beaten solipsism, and you should probably wife her up.

Also, very funny how early people accept this place not being about feelings, until it's theirs, ops being A Pussy, and instead of any of the 100k "men" here calling him on it, they feed his validation.

Trp isn't a spectator sport.

nodoxsavefreespeech 9y ago

My point is they wouldn't get the joke. The connection between the fact that 6'+ men are outliers as are respectable women below the age of 30 wouldn't be made. They would have to posses some form of empathy to understand the perspective the joke requires.

stonepimpletilists 9y ago

so? were you trying to be clever, or honestly lamenting that a woman isn't acting like a man does?

Chicks act like chicks. If I wanted one with male empathy, reason, logic, or self awareness, I'd go suck dicks instead.

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99639 9y ago

https://www.autismspeaks.org/ways-give

Everyone please consider donating, and we can help ensure another child like stonepimpletilists grows up with the support he so desperately needs.

equinoxaeonian 9y ago

Just reiterating a point, dog. Chill the fuck out.

nodoxsavefreespeech 9y ago

holy shit-snacks, holmes...

sperg harder, why don't you?

stonepimpletilists 9y ago

You can't hold a woman to a man's standard... It's all written down by Rollo and friends.

I don't care about your ego, this is sidebar stuff

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Scurvemuch 9y ago

Look daddy, that lady has blonde hair.

why so serious with the chilluns?

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BluepillProfessor 9y ago

LOL on the downvotes. Leave the kids alone old man.

They can't handle the truth.

Scurvemuch 9y ago

I'm impressed. You're not getting down votes for saying the same thing as me. You must be alpha

stonepimpletilists 9y ago

If I'm bored, I'll call out children hamster.

Some people masturbate in their living room, some do this.

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whyalwaysm3 9y ago

Your comment brought up something in my mind I've been wondering lately. Why are there SO MANY single moms? Obviously I know some women have had a shitty partner and thus it's not their fault they ended up in that predicament. BUT most single moms I know and have met are whores who party all the time and then have the nerve to demand a wealthy young attractive man while the man isn't allowed to complain about the baggage these woman are carrying.

This thought process started for me when a 35 year old single mother of 4 kids (2 by 1 guy, 2 by another guy) was hitting on me (28 year old) and her demands were outrageous. Never in my life would I marry or date a woman like this, maybe just fuck her but that's about it. But I was so confused at her delusion. Here she is with 4 kids by two different fathers and she still somehow thinks she's a great catch. She kept telling me how "I'm such a good woman to my partners blah blah" and of course after I asked her what happened to her previous relationships with the fathers of these kids, she hit me with the all too common "he used to beat me blah blah", none of these guys were ever arrested which leads me to believe it's bullshit.

Anyway random rant but I had to get it off my chest and if anyone can explain to me why these single moms think they're great catches I'd love to hear it.

99639 9y ago

explain to me why these single moms think they're great catches I'd love to hear it

They're surrounded by media and culture that universally affirms their decisions and celebrates even their most catastrophic failures (being a single mom to multiple fathers). Surely you've seen those shit magazines marketed towards them in the grocery store, spent some time on Facebook/twitter/pinterest/tumblr, or watched day-time TV like "The View".

PrinceofSpades 9y ago

The fact that you would have even considered sleeping with her is 100% the problem. I wouldn't have even spoken to her as anything less than the ugly truth: worthless human trash who failed somewhere along the way.

"Don't give them the time of day, and before you know it they'll fade away."

LukesLikeIt 9y ago

Hamstering if you ask me. She struggles to find a man so she rationalizes to herself it's because her standards (the man she thinks she deserves) are too high. The only way to make this true to herself is to actually believe it. Same thing with feminism. Why do you think the majority of feminists and definately hardcore feminists are unattractive? Because they cannot get mens attention they try to spin it as a bad thing to save their own egos.

DaphneDK 9y ago

Obviously I know some women have had a shitty partner and thus it's not their fault they ended up in that predicament.

I disagree. If she married and had children by a shitty poartner, then she failed miserable in assessing partner quality. You don't marry an obvious shithead and then come whining afterwards that you're married to a shithead.

Philhelm 9y ago

Obviously, the more bastard children a woman has, the greater her preselection.

redcamouflage 9y ago

Never in my life would I marry or date a woman like this, maybe just fuck her but that's about it.

Almost there. Make a vow not to fuck them too. A single mom should be to men what a 5'2" guy is to women. Borderline revolting. Single moms should be left with nothing but stories of loneliness and frustration to spread around their social circles.

Not giving single moms one scrap of validation is a small price to pay for the net effect it would have on society longterm. There's a reason the scarlet letter was a thing. Whores are nothing but a drain on society's resources. No society with common sense wants to encourage that shit.

PrinceofSpades 9y ago

"Don't give them the time of day, and before you know it they'll fade away."

StoicCrane 9y ago

Mainstream media influences. Women think they're crap doesn't stink. Msm feeds them lies about being independent from men while government welfare enables them. They're trapped in a bubble of delusion.

aazav 9y ago

Why are there SO MANY single moms?

Because they became self entitled and pushed their men away.

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ItsaSimulation 9y ago

This. When women start to realize that their looks are fading they lose their fucking minds -especially when previously they could never be bothered with developing a personality.

SunshineBlotters 9y ago

Obviously I know some women have had a shitty partner and thus it's not their fault they ended up in that predicament

It's always their fault. If they had screened their partner better they wouldnt be in that situation. Don't let women get away without accountability

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NakedAndBehindYou 9y ago

Why are there SO MANY single moms?

Because government benefits have slowly replaced the role of beta bucks provider in society.

Now, betas pay for those women anyways through taxes, but they don't even get the reward of once-a-month duty sex from a reluctant wife that they used to get.

Ifuckinglovepron 9y ago

Bullshit, it is because all men are pigs and the patriarchy and probably also Donald Trump now too.

Oh, also i am sure that systemic racism and white privilege are to blame as well, also slutshamong and cisgender or whatever.

Anything that absolves the woman of any blame.

rundownweather 9y ago

how could you forget ableism and #TransLivesMatter you disgusting cishet shitlord #TRIGGERED

blackwaterflo 9y ago

I have a childhood friend who reconnected with me on Facebook and I had to hide her almost immediately. She is the mother of five, three different dads. Whatevs. Her choices, right? Except she would fill the newsfeed daily with posts about how men don't know how to treat a woman right, how to handle women like her or they're all just generally ain't shit men. Every once in a while she'd throw one in about how lonely she is and how it's such a struggle and gee, why can't I just find me a man?

It's disgraceful. I know her first baby daddy. It was her ex husband (the only one she'd married) and he was a good man. I had the biggest crush on him when we were growing up and it just pisses me off how women like her destroy good men because of their piss poor choices in life (she became a drug addict during their marriage).

Golden_Dawn 9y ago

on Facebook

Asking for it. Might as well be a person who watches television.

DarthExero 9y ago

She could have gone after a total beta nerd and he would have been completely loyal to her. Women claim they have this sixth sense where they can sniff out shitty men but seem to always find shitty men to have kids with them.

rundownweather 9y ago

Wouldn't change shit. These kinds of women always subconsciously sabotage themselves in the end, she would have found a way to shoot herself in the foot.

foldpak111 9y ago

She is a disgrace to society. Any woman I see posting garbage like that on social media needs to be removed from the gene pool.

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RedBigMan 9y ago

I have a childhood friend who reconnected with me on Facebook and I had to hide her almost immediately.

That's what unfriend day is for. Hell unfriend people all the time if their crap is useless.

fingerthemoon 9y ago

Easier to just unfollow and they disappear from your feed. Unfriending can be noticed.

blackwaterflo 9y ago

I tried. It's one of those old family friend whose parents I call Aunt and Uncle kind of thing so when I unfriended said "friend", Aunt So and So messaged me "How come 'friend' says she's not your friend anymore?" Not worth the real world hassle.

Drmadanthonywayne 9y ago

Reminds of the joke about the woman who named all ten of her kids Chris. "It's great", she said, "when I need to call all my kids I just yell, 'Chris'." Ok, she was asked, but what if you want to talk to a specific kid? What do you do then? "Oh, that's easy." She said. "Then I use their last names.

bigderivative 9y ago

Omg my whole life I thought the joke "well that's stupid because you've swapped the use of a first and last name joke" but now it makes so much more sense.

garlicextract 9y ago

Dude everyone I know understood this joke at like 12 years old. how the fuck did you not get it till now

bigderivative 9y ago

I mean I guess I missed one...

down_with_whomever 9y ago

how to handle women like her

This is one of the most comically stupid aspects of the way of thinking of this type of women.

For laughs, let's break the logic down into its components.

Guys are bad because they can't "handle" me. To "handle" means, effectively, to tolerate my intentionally abrasive and antisocial behavior. I believe that antisocial behavior is my right as a woman. I also believe that having a good man is my right as a woman. I don't believe I should have to DO anything to attract that man, I should just get one. I might get one if I stopped my antisocial behavior and started behaving in a feminine, attractive way.

But, it isn't worth it to me. I love my antisocial behaviors MORE than I want a decent man, and given the choice I choose to be alone and to complain about it than to change my behavior and get a good man. In other words, my behavior indicates that I value being a bitch more than I value the prospect of a stable relationship with a decent man.

It's the female equivalent of fat neckbeard assholes who won't move out of the basement, shower, get a job, or lose weight. And who judges all women that aren't hentai schoolgirls with contempt. Only this guy we're describing is universally despised, by both men and women. When women engage in the exact same behavior, it's socially acceptable.

fingerthemoon 9y ago

And they're the ones breeding the most with the government taking care of their children.

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rundownweather 9y ago

Good analysis, but you're applying too much logic to someone who doesn't act logically.

When dealing with these types of women you have to remember that no matter what you do they will never be happy & they will always manage to fuck themselves up. It's in their nature, just like the scorpion of legend.

down_with_whomever 9y ago

I know they aren't acting logically. I was explaining what the thought process would look like if it WERE logical in nature.

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Yes it's a single mothers fault that her baby daddies did not stick around. That's practically her only reproductive strategy. If she can't keep a man around, whether through marriage or simply as a baby daddy. She has failed as a woman.

Actually, if she has 'alpha's' kids and can't get a beta to commit, then she has failed as a woman, and is not worth wasting time with her.

foldpak111 9y ago

She either chose the wrong guy (the lone wolf, the bad boy, the 'alpha') and he took off, or she chose the right guy who ran for the hills. Never forget people, women are the gatekeepers of sex, but men are the gatekeepers of relationships.

down_with_whomever 9y ago

Actually, if she has 'alpha's' kids and can't get a beta to commit

See absolutely no reason to call the kind of guys who hang around and give validation and sex to these party girl bar selfie bar skanks who leave their kids in the car while they princess it up and try to hit on guys as "alphas."

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That's why alpha is quoted

Toussant 9y ago

Actually these women end up more successful in the reproductive game, which is her true natural goal. She spread her genes among 4 offspring with multiple males. Reproductive-wise, she has a leg up on the Stepford wife with a mansion and 1 kid. Check out the movie Idiocracy.

laiyaise 9y ago

Her success is artificial due to the government pretending to play the role of father. Once men abandon society the economy collapses and with it the government, then her successful reproductive strategy suddenly won't be so successful.

Kids raised in two-parent households despite being less numerous are still far superior and always will be. There is a reason the traditional marriage has been around for thousands of years, any civilization that didn't subscribe to it sooner or later was replaced by those who did.

Toussant 9y ago

Nature doesn't care about artificial, which is a subjective view anyway. This is not that significant of a point but it would still be helpful for you to see it.

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In pure numbers yes. However is it better to have one child raised properly, or 4 children raised like shit?

Toussant 9y ago

Different topics. Raised properly is obviously better for the kid. Numbers is the game of nature, which is still important. Difference is exponential as the generations go on.

And don't discount these kids. One of them founded Napster, son of a 1-night pickup with some neighborhood drummer.

PrinceofSpades 9y ago

No, the only reason this is perceived as "successful" is because tax dollars allow her access to food stamps which keep these children alive.

If we still lived in lesser times, all four of her kids would die off long before they could reproduce and continue lineage because no man/en were around to provide for her. Sure, you could argue prostitution, but that also used to pay way worse than it does today. That's not success. Sure, it would be ideal to produce four children with four different ethnicity men, but only if they would all protect her and the offspring. Without that, they would have been doomed to die.

sir_wankalot_here 9y ago

A successful organism adapts to its environment

Toussant 9y ago

We don't live in lesser times and the kids will have more kids than the rich kid. You missed the point, check out the movie.

PrinceofSpades 9y ago

I've seen it multiple times; you're using a comedy as hard evidence. Yes there is a trend in stupidity lately, but it's only because we keep those children alive. The humanitarian movement is laughable. Those people's kids will be poor, and so will theirs, etc.

I don't give a fuck about the future of humanity; I'm only here for so much longer and am significantly more concerned with myself.

Toussant 9y ago

Not evidence, a simple concept. Your priority is perfectly legitimate and is close to mine as well as most people's here. It's just not optimal reproductively, which is a separate topic.

cariboo_j 9y ago

Well technically in the context of the welfare state she is genetically successful

PrinceofSpades 9y ago

That isn't genetically successful.

Genetics didn't suddenly adapt to welfare.

Go take a 300 genetics university course and get back to me when you stop throwing around a word out of context.

cariboo_j 9y ago

whatever, reproductively successful.

They're pursuing the optimal strategy to pass on more copies of their genes in the context of their environment aka the gynocentric welfare state.

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well-ok-then 9y ago

from an evolutionary standpoint - when you said "who reproduce..." you mean they were successes.

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well-ok-then 9y ago

My thinking is that idiocracy was right. However unsuccessful those "inferior" offspring seem - they'll be the ones who are here to run the place. I'm not having kids. So, however impressed I might be with my accomplishments or retirement account, evolution says I failed and that single mother and associated baby daddy won.

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rundownweather 9y ago

Your reasoning has a hole in it. The hole being that you need money to live and taking care of 4 kids as a single mom is a recipe for disaster.

Also no offense intended but idiocracy is a shit movie. It's just not possible to end up with a society made up completely of double-digit-IQ morons, the human race as a whole will always strive toward a higher understanding (even though the individual may not).

Toussant 9y ago

When was the last time a kid starved? They are more likely to have more kids than you will, even if they spend half their time in jail.

rundownweather 9y ago

And what a great life their litter will have. I'm well aware that no one starves anymore in the western world, but you have to consider that not starving and having a comfortable (or even tolerable) tolerable lifestyle are not the same thing.

What you're telling me is that a trailer trash whore with 4 kids and a middle-class wife of one will be able to survive and thrive in the same way, which is blatantly not true given the same, average income between the two. Do correct me if i'm not getting something.

Toussant 9y ago

You missed the point entirely, you're adding words I didn't say. Repro success and living well are different topics.

rundownweather 9y ago

Then enlighten me. Not trying to be an ass, i'm genuinely not getting the point.

Toussant 9y ago

For most of history, reproductive success is correlated with quality of life. However, in modern times, the two have started to diverge. There are exceptions such as Trump, but many if not most well off people have less kids than those who achieve far less success in today's terms. First world countries generally have birth rates lower than third world countries and often lower than the replacement rate of ~2.2 children per woman. Within the US, high income households have lower birthrates.

So it's interesting that our current state of achieving high quality of life has meant lower birthrates. Many people directly believe that more kids equal lower quality of life and that's been a simple fact in today's socioeconomic structure: kids are expensive in both time and money. Having 1-2 kid per couple, as is often the case with high income nuclear families, heads toward extinction if extrapolated to the long run. This is the premise for the comedy movie Idiocracy.

Some countries have tried to address this issue with tax credits but there are no clear solutions or perhaps even problem definitions. But it is interesting to keep in mind that success by today's definition during an individual lifetime is not inclusive of the reproductive success that brought us here in the first place.

KetoSandwich 9y ago

Instrumental music is what I listen to most of the time nowadays. Jazz and Classical, also Two steps from Hell or MonkeyNinja which make video game soundtracks. Never a dull moment with those latter 2

garlicextract 9y ago

Dont worry if you're not tall, this is analogous to all kinds of SMV indicators.

Not really understanding how you can follow up your anecdote with this sentence. As someone who isnt tall I would like to understand. Go to a nightclub and a 5'4" ripped guy in a suit has little chance vs a 6'3" pencilneck who makes 21k/year.

DarthExero 9y ago

I used to hear much more of this height priority from pre-wall women. For post wall women no one cares what they think for one, and two they tend to become much less selective.

Relevantex 9y ago

The best part is women are even worse with dick size. If she finds you attractive, congrats you now have a 7 incher. If she doesn't you now have a 4 incher. Your actual size barely even matters.

garlicextract 9y ago

If she doesn't find you attractive you now have a 0 incher cuz she's not gonna see your dick

OilyB 9y ago

"Are there really that many women with IQs lower than 120?"

" Are there really that many women with reasonable to bad music taste?"

"Are there really that many women that don't absolutely love anal sex and swallow?"

"Are there really that many women that are emotionally unstable?"

"Are there really that many women who are chubby or fat and greasy?"

"Are there really that many women that nag and complain?"

I REALLY TRULY DON'T NOTICE THEM.

And it's fucking liberating.

itsDAP 9y ago

I feel like height is like big tits. It's one feature that we really like, but if they're not the biggest, she can still be a dime based on other factors.

TebowTime615 9y ago

I have a short roommate (5'6, claims he's 5'9, he's not) who wears make up and shoe lifts, he doesn't do well with women. I have another short roommate (5'8) who is confident and does well with women. I'm 6'1 so I don't factor into the dilemma. It my experience it does seem like height matters, but guys who bitch about their height are self pitying losers. It seems you're better off just owning it and finding a chick who digs you, regardless of how tall or short you are.

Tarnsman4Life 9y ago

Gotta say, being 6'7 gets me laid with the short/petiete chicks more often than any other trait. They want that feeling of being physically overpowered more than anything else. Being ripped @ 5'8 might get you laid, but I would take having a lean body and being 6'7 any day.

das_superbus 9y ago

I don't think they're an accurate judge of height though.

MeatCurtainRod 9y ago

Raise your SMV or you will almost literally be invisible to women

This. People are given a random-ish hand of cards when they are born. Some men are given height, some are given other features. If you are lacking in some aspects, work on others to make up for the differences. SMV is still SMV, and if you work hard enough, height means nothing.

Case in point: many people would sleep with tom cruise if given the chance.

sickofallofyou 9y ago

Ironically, shorter guys get laid more.

http://www.theloop.ca/when-it-comes-to-sex-short-guys-have-the-last-laugh/

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dindunuffin94 9y ago

Absolutely true, women don't see the outstanding majority of men as men, or potential partners anyway. If an individual does not have height and good looks he just doesn't register to women.

stonepimpletilists 9y ago

could you look at a photo of a guy and say how tall he was? Do you think she'd be any better at it?

I guarantee that there's a ton of 5'8 six footers that she's been interested in.

Hell, ever notice that a guys dick is huge, until they break up? then he's gay, and has a small one? Girls have no banana for scale

jmg83 9y ago

Hell, ever notice that a guys dick is huge, until they break up? then he's gay, and has a small one?

Yeah, it's funny how often that happens, isn't it?

dindunuffin94 9y ago

No, but I could look at a man and estimate his height in person, which I think women are capable of and do on a day to day basis.

http://m.imgur.com/DxJ0VmR

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atifhere 9y ago

These two women are the abnormalities, not the Taylor.

He is 5'9", and the women look 5'11" and 6'

dindunuffin94 9y ago

Or are women of average height wearing heels

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sassypaella 9y ago

If you give her tingles, you will become taller; if you are a loser, you are a short loser. Of course, if a girl is 5'8'' and you are shorter she will notice, but the point is, girls are terrible at actually telling height.

garlicextract 9y ago

I know a guy 5'4" who hooks up with a 5'9" girl. So he's automatically a 'short loser' to her?

dindunuffin94 9y ago

The women in the photo found the young actor to be handsome, until they discovered his height after which case he was "ruined" in their own words. This is entirely anecdotal but there's no evidence to begin with that women found short men who are more attractive to be taller.

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JohnGalt316 9y ago

10% of men are over 6 ft tall

1% of men make six figures and are over 6 ft tall

Captnj 9y ago

I don't always use statistics, but when I do they are made up

gareiu 9y ago

Being tall or not doesn't matter 100%. If you're SMV is shit across the board you won't register to women.

I disagree. Naturally, women would go for the taller man. It's evolution.

Avskygod0 9y ago

I don't know m8 a lot of men i see outside are about 6 feet

MachoMonk 9y ago

i think this is more of them thinking any dude 5"9+ is 6 feet. Honestly i have friends who are 5"6 that insist they are 5"9. I'm a real 5"9 and its hilarious how many bitches will insist im like 5"11+.

my theory about this is that anyone whos legit under 5"7 is just seen as undateable unless they have considerable SMV in other fields and women just assume like anyone 5"8 or over is around 6 feet.

scissor_me_timbers00 9y ago

are you sure 5'7 is the cutoff? I'm 5'6 and I've always gotten attention from attractive femmes. Not all of them of course, but consistently over 10 years

MachoMonk 9y ago

5"7~ you most likely reach the threshold

jjspaceman 9y ago

fuck all 4 of those women.

how you want to read that is open to interpretation.

1v1crown 9y ago

Another thing to remember is that since women don't understand basic concepts, a woman may think that 5' 8" is her definition of 6'.

Since women are shorter than men, and look up to them, their perspective is skewed. In other words, if you lined up a bunch of guys in random order and the heights ranged from 5' 1" to 6' 8", I would EXTREMELY surprised if she guessed which guy was 6' tall.

In other words, even if you aren't 6' tall, don't worry, to an extent they more than likely don't know the difference.

CFNB 9y ago

They may think we're all 6' but they don't even know what 6' looks like. They just like the number.

Swole_is_life 9y ago

Yeah, it's probably not as much a top 20% thing as it is women just being bad at judging height. A 5'3" woman probably can't tell the difference between a 5'9" man and a 6' at a glance.

jaysenbergmercier 9y ago

The thing is most girls can't judge height for shit and overestimate height. If your taller than them they seem to automatically think your over 6ft even if your not. Unless shes only 5 feet tall and your just taller than her

Ifuckinglovepron 9y ago

Lol, got blessed, I am 6'4" and a half. I like to add the half inch just because.

blackwallsound 9y ago

Face above everything, brother.

Ifuckinglovepron 9y ago

Are you talking about aesthetics or about how you can see over people when you are tall?

If you are talking aesthetics you are off base, face is very important but physique is more so.

blackwallsound 9y ago

The aesthetics (= beauty) of the face. Basically if your face is is below 8/10 you're pretty much invisible to women even if you're 8'10".

Ifuckinglovepron 9y ago

I disagree.

Now, of course if you have the 8/10 face, tall and ripped, of course you will slay, might as well add 6 figure salty there too so it can be the ideal Chad.

Women like strength more than beauty in men. If you compare a guy with a 6/10 face who is 6'+ and ripped with a guy who has a brad Pitt face but is 5'9" and chubby, the fit guy will win every time. Just a fact, bro.

Not sure why you are bringing up facial aesthetics in a thread about height, but I'm going to give you the benefit of doubt that you are not just some short guy being jealous.

Btw if you think any less than 8/10 is invisible to women, you need to work on your frame, you are setting yourself up for defeat with that attitude.

blackwallsound 9y ago

Just lol at you bruh. I'm 6'2" without shoes. Used to play basketball and many guys I know from back than sturggle with the ladies since they don't have the a nice face.

Sure. Height might be nice but it's just a plus. Face above everything.

Edit: there's no way a chubby guy could have a 8/10 face or more. Body and face go hand in hand. Someone with 14% body fat or more will struggle to have a decent face.

Ifuckinglovepron 9y ago

Well you sure seem dedicated to telling everyone on this thread that message... Keep fight the ~~good~~ relevant to yourself fight.

LukesLikeIt 9y ago

I wouldn't even be attracted to someone who made me feel inadequate on purpose.

beta_tingles 9y ago

Today, was told by female (college educated) who works with the most violent felons in my state, hands on, every day, that their behavior is typical of most young men that age - 17-21. (conclusion based on comparing behavior of felons' to those of young men she met in high school and university)

Nice guys are not men in the eyes of women.

Benny757 9y ago

I'm sitting here in my cube in corporate land just waiting for 5:00 o'clock somewhere to happen. 2 dudes surrounded by roughly 10 gals. Only 2 out of 10 are noteworthy. 8 are invisible to me. I guess we really aren't all that far apart after all...

Have a great weekend friends and 'Pillers!

longlivethekingg 9y ago

but that's not the same thing. they maybe somewhat invisible to you but as a man that doesn't mean you still wouldn't give most of them the D if they asked for it. when op says men are invisible to women they are invisible as in there's no way they'd fuck them or even breathe in their direction.

yomo86 9y ago

If you all would be as unapologetic and merciless with your personal opinion of the features a girl has to have (no more than 130 pounds if average height, not older than 25, long hair etc.) as you are with the importance of height we all would not have this endless discussion because girls would actually fight over a guy.

Anecdotical evidence: My first plate accused me she could find another guy who is taller and more ripped than me (175 lean muscle and 5'9 isn't obviously not doing the trick) I just replied: if she does not become 5 pounds lighter and more respectfull she will need to find another man in two weeks. --> mental breakdown.

blackwallsound 9y ago

Just lol if you seriously think your height is going to save you.

LegendzNvrDie 9y ago

Should have asked are there really that many obese women out there ? I just assumed all women are fit and take care of themselves.

eyearena 9y ago

Not only is raising your SMV important but also not taking shit and leading is important. I'm 5'9 and probably more like 5'10ish with shoes. I once dated a guy who was 5'8 and I felt like I had to be the more dominant one even though I weighed significantly less. Little simple things like ordering food or walking through a crowd of people, I felt like he was smaller and therefore some how weaker; I felt like I had to lead. It was weird because he was beta with me but the girl he dated before me was like 5'1 and he was obviously quite the alpha in the relationship. If you;re short at least be buff, have confidence, and lead strong.

TranceLord 9y ago

Theyre just unaware of how tall ppl are.

trp_angry_dwarf 9y ago

Dwarves can tick all the boxes perfectly... We're still at a disadvantage.

6"3 and half alpha gets more interest with no effort at all.

blackwallsound 9y ago

No. Game gets the most interest. Sarcasm off.

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niczar 9y ago

I never hear women in France specifically talking about wanting a tall guy. I'm sure they defenitely prefer tall men, but it's not such a thing. It sounds really odd.

NotUpToAnythingGood 9y ago

I got told the same thing by the lady who cuts my hair. She won't date a guy unless he's at least 6" taller than her and she stands 5'1". She also said that she prefers 6' and up.

The thing that caught me was her comment that she doesn't understand why height is so important to her either.

Cristoff13 9y ago

Woman have always had a preference for men taller than themselves. Very recently though this has been exaggerated to the point of absurdity. Do they realize how very recent (like the past 20 years) this overwhelming obsession with height is? And how few men (~15%) are 6' or taller?

This is tied in with prestige. The perception of prestige is determined largely by fashion and social trends, and many younger women have now determined any man of average height or less is un-prestigious. Women are obsessed with gaining prestigious men as partners.

Of course if you can gave her tingles it won't matter how short you are.

yourpasswordissex420 9y ago

You ever hear the saying you are the average of the people you hang out with.

I am going out on a limb here, but if these chicks are hot, they are probably going to have male friends that are in the same ballpark of attractiveness. While, unattractive people will hang out with people in they're respective league.

That's my theory at least.

Source: My ass

*EDIT: Most important point is that manlets commonly lie about their height. An experiment found men on average lied 1.5" on their fucking driver licence, how bad do you think it is for online dating. There is a good chance the 6' standard some women have is really 1 5'10" standard.

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garlicextract 9y ago

'manlets lie about their height' lol kid think critically for one minute. It's 5'10 and 5'11 guys who lie most commonly

yourpasswordissex420 9y ago

Anyone over 6 ft doesn't have as much a reason to lie.

OilyB 9y ago

"Source: my ass" - Hahaha, I love it!

actofgod22 9y ago

5'8 here, always seen as shorter. Always.

I am usually weighing in at 185-195 vascular and lean, so that may alter the perception as I likely appear pretty wide (for lack of a better term).

I noticed a lot of girls not only have a horrible height perception, but that they also have no clue how tall they are or intentionally minimize their own height. I've seen clear 6+ chicks claiming that they are 5'8. I've always said that a "5'10" girl is usually 6'1

GMUwhat1234 9y ago

Does race play a deciding factor in SMV in accordance with height as well? I feel like I'm the bottom %80 as a 5'9" Asian male

CumForJesus 9y ago

Yeah as Asian you play it on hard mode.

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psychnerd01 9y ago

What's SMV? I'm new to this subreddit

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slothsenpai 9y ago

This is where the concept of "male privilege" comes from. Feminists (the hamsterest female form) virtually do not consider betas and lower-tier guys amongst the norm, only focusing on rich, successful, high-SMV dudes.

Nevermind the guy who kills himself due to bullying or inadequacy, or the homeless man who lives rough fighting for his survival, or the hapless husband who jumps through obstacles to please his wife (only to get cuckold, or the introverted gamer who has never nor will ever be given the chance to feel a boob (lest he swallows the redpill) or the guys who risk themselves in the army or working dangerous jobs. Shall I keep going?

Namkcalb 9y ago

This, a thousand times this!

scarletspider3 9y ago

Chick's are stupid. They'll believe anything a man with status tells them

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94redstealth 9y ago

So true. its so pervasive that for a while I started doubting my own height. I knew for a fact that I was 6'2" but every time I met some one they would ask and be like nah, I am/or someone I know is 6'2" and you are like 2" taller

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stawek 9y ago

Women can't judge height at all. Not because there's anything wrong with their senses.

Men judge others' height by simply comparing them to themselves. "This guy is 2inch taller than me, he must be 6ft".

Women can't do it because they don't have "a height". Their own height depends on their shoes, sometimes by 3" or more, so they just never get the proper measurement.

jmg83 9y ago

A lot of women don't even know how tall 6ft is, anyway, based on my observations. A woman I know who claims to be 5'8" is about two inches shorter than me, and I'm 5'8".

RavelsBolero 9y ago

Get rich. Are you short, fat, balding, or something? All the normal rules go out the window when you're rich. If you have money you can make yourself attractive, your height won't matter. Another reason to focus on your career and your own skills.

max_peenor 9y ago

Women will add height to men they otherwise find appealing. The hamster is powerful. My brother is around 5'7". Truth is we are only half-siblings; my father was a giant kraut, so I'm bigger. Yet, he has laid more tail than Union Pacific. If I asked women how tall they thought he was (yes, I did this), they would almost universally say he was around 5'10". Three free inches for muscles and a strong jaw.

marty2k 9y ago

Similarly, I'm 5'11". I used to be chubby with shitty posture. If I told girls I was 5'11" they would give me incredulous looks and not believe me. Now I'm more built and stand straight as a soldier, got girls thinking I'm 6'2" a lot of the time.

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juliusstreicher 9y ago

Yep. You can only imagine how many inches she took off of your dick.

politisch_inkorrekt 9y ago

I would love if my emotions could change physical matter.

SpeakerToRedditors 9y ago

And let's not forget a women always claims she is at least 3 inches shorter than she actually is

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as a 5'3" guy, I must say, if you are short enough, nothing can really overcome it.

I started wearing 4 inch boots recently just to experiment. It's AMAZING how differently people treat me. Mostly because I am a naturally confident guy with my act together, but when I'm instantly disqualified because of my height, none of that confidence gets a chance to come throug.

Overzealous_BlackGuy 9y ago

People seem to see my height for what it is, and i do great, if anything my height is the only thing thats mentioned, maybe its because i tend date taller women. But my height is always mentioned when it comes to dressing up

RIPelliott 9y ago

Absolutely. Fellow 5'6-er here coming up on my 40th woman banged and well over a couple hundred hooked up with to lesser degrees (just turned 24 btw). Honest to god average was a HB 7-8, with plenty of 9's (and yes once I got drunk and fucked a fat chick). Every girl guesses I am 5'8-5'9 but I have good posture and carry myself confidently. Height is a huge help with getting women, but there are plenty of us who have no trouble even without it.

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what's the difference between hooking up with, and banged? I thought hooking up and banging was the same thing...

RIPelliott 9y ago

Many people do, in this case for me, hooking up is anything less than banging, ranging from making out to receiving oral

Snazzy_Serval 9y ago

Are you super good looking or something?

I'm 5'5, average looks and I absolutely fail with women.

What's your secret?

RIPelliott 9y ago

Without sounding too conceited....yes I have been told I am good looking. I think a part of it is that i am kind of "mean" looking so to speak. I have thick eyebrows, glaring eyes, and people say I have the male equivalent of resting bitch face. Idk it just works for me. My theory, which I happened to have commented about just a couple days ago on another subreddit, is that the mean look negates the assumptions of weakness that many girls have about short men. Are you sure that you absolutely fail? Or are you just not as successful as your friends?

Snazzy_Serval 9y ago

Interesting. So you're good looking and I'm guessing have an air of danger to you. I can see how that helps negate being short. Yeah it gets rid of the assumption of weakness.

As for myself. Well I've had one girlfriend, started dating her when I was 31 and she dumped me after six months. Other than her I've had one FWB and I wasn't attracted to her. I haven't slept with anyone else. I've been single for two years with no end in sight.

RIPelliott 9y ago

Goddamn man. Im sorry to hear that. What kind of look do you have? if you dont mind me asking. And you live in America im assuming? I also wouldnt worry about how long youre single for (relatively), i was single for a good three years not by choice until last year. now if ten years go by and youre still single....maybe. but you got plenty of time, friend.

benuntu 9y ago

Don't forget the smile and wink! Adds at least 2 inches.

scissor_me_timbers00 9y ago

don't fucking wink. just smile

penis_butter_n_jelly 9y ago

I'm not contradicting you, but posture could be more significant. If you're confident and have a jacked back, you'll literally stand taller. I'm 6' on the nose and my slouching, skinny-fat, beta roommate in college was 6'3". Looking back at photos, I'm literally "taller" than him in every one.

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max_peenor 9y ago

Posture is indeed important. I have spent a measurable amount of my life telling grown male soldiers to stand up straight. I felt like my grandmother sometimes...

B_uckets 9y ago

Doesn't help that every guy over 5'9" claims he's 6' tall.

People have seriously skewed perceptions of what 6' looks like because so many people inflate their height. When I tell people I'm 6'2" they never believe me even though that's rounded up. Most people guess I'm 6'5".

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Im 5'8" and tell women that im 5'10" and have it listed on my dating profiles. Have never been called out on it.

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I'm 6'2 exactly and I've always been told i'm 6ft by people. I admit I look a bit shorter as well. But I measure 6'2. Might be the fat, I'm fatty muscle like no belly. But I feel it.

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Namkcalb 9y ago

David Beckham and Brad Pitt are 5'11" and a half.

Then again, they only get away with it because of their rock hard SMV.

garlicextract 9y ago

Tom Cruise and Mark Wahlberg are 5'7" and 5'8" and they get more pussy in a month (at least during their younger days when they were on the hunt) than you and 50% of this sub combined in your life

so lol at brad pitt 'getting away' with being 5'11.5

Namkcalb 9y ago

I'm afraid you are right, despite being 6'2", there were times I went a whole year dry.

Tall Alpha > Short Alpha > Tall Omega. >>> Short Omega.

Squeezymypenisy 9y ago

I bet its more they get away with it because girls don't have a clue how tall 6 ft actually is. if you are within 2 to 3 inches of it you can usually lie.

So-Done-With-Life 9y ago

183cm checking in... Either a millmetre off 6 foot or exactly on the dot.

exit_sandman 9y ago

Doesn't help that every guy over 5'9" claims he's 6' tall.

I think this is also the problem with the girls above. They're used to assuming that any rando who is somewhat taller than them is at least 6', so for them guys below that line have to be around their own height... who are of course far less numerous.

StoicCrane 9y ago

Being 5'9" what does that make me 5'11"? Women have no sense of spatial measurement. Men can get away with fibbing a few inches. Unless the woman is taller of course.

Essexal 9y ago

The 6' is the new 'ten inches'.

SunshineBlotters 9y ago

Same with penis sizes. When a girl says she doesnt take anything under 7 inches. It means she wants around 5. Most guys would meet a woman's standard for 7 inches despite the fact that describes less than 5% if men.

SittinOnTheDock 9y ago

Why western men are obsessed with their penis size will never make sense to me

SunshineBlotters 9y ago

Because we have to deal with western women

Namkcalb 9y ago

I'm 7 and 3/4 hard, it's mostly a negative, you need to do twice as much foreplay before you can enter and even so, you can't go anywhere near fully in.

I couldn't even imagine how troublesome an actual girthy 10" penis would be. Your pool of potential plates would be limited to fetishers and mothers of triplets.

For reference, Ron Jeremy one of the biggest men in porn only has 9"

Aintlisterine 9y ago

I'm 8, nicely girthy and have slept with 40+ women. I've run into the problems you've described 2 or 3 times at most.

In my experience, girls love a big dick.

whatsazipper 9y ago

only has 9"

"Only". 9" is HUGE. People toss around sizes without having a clue what they're talking about (not you, obviously).

Toussant 9y ago

10" is about the length of a lot of people's forearms. I hope they get their wish to try one.

Namkcalb 9y ago

And people wonder why so few Western women study Mathmatics and Engineering.

exit_sandman 9y ago

Are you hanging out with a lot of midgets? 10" is a bit longer than the distance from my middle finger to my wristbone, and I am not that tall.

Toussant 9y ago

Forearm not including the hand.

Namkcalb 9y ago

I'm 6'2" barefoot too.

You are a lot taller than my boyfriend and he's 6'2"

penis_butter_n_jelly 9y ago

This combined with the fact that women have no concept of measurement. Ask any girl to show you, with her hands, the length of the biggest and smallest dick they've ridden. It will always be something like 14 inches and 2 inches. No they weren't you fucking retard.

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politisch_inkorrekt 9y ago

While in the austrian army, I worked for a recruitment center (I don't know if this is the right name, every male has to join the forces or social works if he is in good health, so we checked for health). I was responsible for body measurements, like height, weight and strength. One day one of the MDs, which are all female, came in and screamed at me for doing my job wrong. I wrote as a height about 1,78meters, but the recruit says he is 1,90 meters. I looked at her, said sorry, and told her I will make a new measurement. She calls him in and there he is, staying right in front of me. He is basically the same height as me, and I am 1,78. I tell her that and ask her how they both could think he is 1,9. I measure him in front of her. Of course, I was still the asshole. Still baffles me, how dumb you can be and still become a MD.

Tman5691 9y ago

Girls have thought I was 6' before, I'm actually 5'9". Naturally, I saw no reason to correct them.

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foldpak111 9y ago

Why think when society does it for you? PROTECT THE EGGS!

RedBigMan 9y ago

Well typical women (those who arent in the trades or STEM) can't math for shit and have a horrible time with measurements too.

Some shortstack hottie who's like 5'5" probably thinks the dude who's 5'10" is 6 feet tall unless she busts out a tape measure to check for herself.

I'm 6'7" myself, if I tell people I'm 6'9" I doubt anyone but those close to me in height would call bullshit.

mahg94 9y ago

Im literally 183 cm. Thats 6'0. Sometimes people ask if im 190 cm tall.

reddumpling 9y ago

I'm you. It's like they have no point of reference at all. Or just a skewed point of reference.

Pastelitomaracucho 9y ago

Murricans. Stop using a system where measurements are just associated to a mental image.

mahg94 9y ago

Im literally 183 cm. Thats 6'0. Sometimes people ask if im 190 cm tall.

Jigsus 9y ago

This is the american measurement system at work. 6 feet is a magical number. In the rest of the world anyone over 1.75m is tall.

Namkcalb 9y ago

This is the american measurement system at work. 6 feet is a magical number. In the rest of the world anyone over 1.75m is tall.

Not anymore, it's now inflated to 1.80 in China,

I've met a lot of 1.80 shortarses

SpeakerToRedditors 9y ago

Exactly, a 6 foot dude is 6 rulers big. most women are so vapid they can't conceive a fraction of a unit.

ag_nuke 9y ago

no, they just have low spatial intelligence... their brain isn't the same, remember?

exit_sandman 9y ago

Here (Germany) the magic line is 1.80m, someone who is 1.75m would be considered on the shorter side. Not short, but certainly below average.

Jigsus 9y ago

1.80 would be clearly under 6 feet tall so short in the US. It's all imaginary numbers.

enjoys_fisting 9y ago

People have seriously skewed perceptions of what 6' looks like

No kidding. I just asked my girlfriend how tall she thought I was and she said 6'2-6'3

I'm 5'11

ProteinGod17 9y ago

Lmao, one of my good buddies is 6'4. One night out at the bars, this good looking chick was cozying up to my buddy the entire time. After some drinks, she admitted to thinking my buddy was in the NBA. He's an athlete and a big dude but this still came to a shock to him so he asked her what made her think that. Word for word, she said "Well you're like 6'10!" She wasn't even trashed either. I asked her how tall she thought I was and she said 6'5, I'm 6'2 on a good day lol.

kellykebab 9y ago

Maybe one day she'll be court side at a game and realize those dudes are all freaks.

ProteinGod17 9y ago

Doubt it, the fact that those dudes pull in millions and are loved by the country will completely skew the fact that 3/4 of them look like aliens from a cheesy movie. If I could choose my height, I'd go with 6'4 and nothing higher. It's like having a big dick, there is a point where it's just too much.

kellykebab 9y ago

Yeah, didn't necessarily mean she'd be turned off, just realize how big 6'10" really is. Agree with your other point though.

raisins3142 9y ago

Yep, at the end of the day (shrink), bare foot, I am about exactly 6'.

My friends that are 5'10" claim to be 6' and think I'm 6' 2", which is fine by me.

When I was on match.com, I had my honest height on there. Several women actually remarked in surprise "wow, you really are 6'". I suppose they were used to being catfished.

marplaneit 9y ago

US is pretty fucked up I'm 5'11 on the morning bare foot, measured by my doctor.

I live in argentina, I went to the NW cost, (Portland), and I was around average yet, girls told me I was on the short side, that 6' was the average.

LOL wtf? For girls the average is:

6' 100k a year, lifted for around 1-2 years. Last time, a girl told I look like a lift... but i'm not big... i'm 180 lbs at 15% bodyfat 5'11... at 19. I'm from argentina, the average height is 5'8, and most guys weight around 130-140 lbs...

foldpak111 9y ago

I've lived in Portland for a little over 3 years now and let me tell you, the dating game and women in general sucks. It's a liberal shit hole. You'll meet plenty of cool guys but all of the women here are just terrible.

raisins3142 9y ago

I'm guessing she told you that you were below average after you told her your height. If you had just let her look, she'd likely think you were on the taller side, that is unless she only sees Chads (which is likely).

Funny quip: I have a Japanese friend I went to college with that during undergrad was a college b-ball player in Japan. He was my height and weight. He said that in Japan he was considered very big and most people were afraid of him. Man, I need to visit Japan!

cariboo_j 9y ago

Random but I do a lot of rock climbing. I'm not particularly ripped (only lift ~3x per week at a moderate level) but I have ridiculous forearms and hands.

Girls usually comment like "ooh your hands are so manly" lol.

I guess it's the first thing people see especially when you're dressed normally.

Namkcalb 9y ago

A woman joked "You know what they call 'men' under 6'? Friends."

Do they have any idea how rare ripped 6'+ wealthy men are in most countries? We aren't just talking about the top 20% any more.

And 6' is considered small by some, part of the reason I screwed up with a girl was I was only 6'2" tall. Granted, She was almost 6' herself, but it shows the power of a young woman's hypergamy and never settling.

foldpak111 9y ago

Women like that end up exercising hypergamy until their eggs dry up. Then they can't find any man except neckbeards who are willing to commit so they buy a couple cats, spend Friday and Saturday night eating pizza and watching television, and treat everyone (especially men) like shit. Let the little cunt rot.

garlicextract 9y ago

Do they have any idea how rare ripped 6'+ wealthy men are in most countries? We aren't just talking about the top 20% any more.

No shit, considering 6' is 85th percentile in the us. So less than 15% of males in the US are 6'+ barefoot.

exit_sandman 9y ago

Yeah, tall women tend to be rather dumb about that. Where I am from (metric system), women over 180 cm (5'11") often want at least a guy who's 185 or 190 (6'1" and 6'3" respectively). Yeah... good look with that.

Namkcalb 9y ago

What's worse is the average height man in her home city* is only 169cm.

exit_sandman 9y ago

What? No wonder she moved with these demands of hers.

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PantsonFire1234 9y ago

It's a comparative thing. If she's known nothing but tall guys then that's her measurement stick. Now if she got alpha widowed by a tall guy. That's another story. Now she'll actively compare everything toward the next man.

That's why I suspect that most women are just comparing you to some Chad from the past when they blurt stuff like that.

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PantsonFire1234 9y ago

Yeah I know that card. Sometimes you won't even notice that you're being compared to some guy. They try to test you and change you to better fit the imprint left by some guy in their past.

PantsonFire1234 9y ago

If you're 5'11 barefoot then you are basically 6' with soles on. So I can understand the confusion. When I wear boots i'm at 6'1 and that's still short in Dutch terms.

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Purecorrupt 9y ago

Nah I guess people are shorter then I realize they have shit posture.

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phoenix_reborn84 9y ago

I'm 179 cm according to my drivers license, that's 70.5 inches. I say I'm 5'11. Most girls think I'm 6, but I always say 5'11. I'm pretty much average height when it comes to American males but compared to the rest of the world I'm tall. Average male height in India is 5'5, it's like 5'4 in Nigeria.

Many guys I know lie about their height but I am not sure if a lot of girls pick up on it. Many add an inch or two. One of my friends is 6'1 and he says he's 6'2. I know a guy who's 5'7 who says he's 5'9. Boggles my mind how none of the girls they date ever double check or doubt their claims.

That being said the 5'7 guy is ripped as fuck. Has dated hotter girls than me and my 6'1 buddy. I think height is overrated, looks (body and face), money, status symbol and power are more important.

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garlicextract 9y ago

She really said you're "up there"? I mean 6'/6'1" is tall, but it really isn't that tall. I'm pretty short but with excellent height (and weight, but that's a different story) estimation. I thought my 6'8" coworker was 6'10", that's the farthest off I've ever been. I'm still convinced he must have been 6'8" and a half or so.

either way, "damn that guy is tall" doesn't happen until someone hits 6'3" or so. Even 6'2" guys are just "tall guy", not "damn that guy is tall"

MajorMid 9y ago

Women especially short women don't know how to judge height.

I've been asked if I was 6'1 before. I'm 5'8 1/2 barefoot at most.

Fuck_shadow_bans 9y ago

Yes, there are. As someone who is 6'2", I am in the top 5% globally and historically of all people

~90% of men are shorter than 6'0". But then again, it is a woman we are talking about so of course her perception of reality is more important than actual reality.

yumyumgivemesome 9y ago

Being tall or not doesn't matter 100%. If you're SMV is shit across the board you won't register to women.

On tinder, I've definitely had girls straight-up ask my height and then go completely silent when I tell them 5'8". Recently, I met up a feminist (whose profile specifically says "no hookups") who disappointedly told me that I looked much smaller than in my pictures.

Two main lessons: (1) Confirmation that height is fucking important to even the girls who supposedly live the least superficial lives. (2) Even feminazis want to fuck ;)

blackwallsound 9y ago

It's probably your face. Sorry bruh..

yumyumgivemesome 9y ago

You're saying my face is what helped me to ultimately confirm lesson #2 with this girl? That's awfully sweet of you.

foldpak111 9y ago

Look at the bright side, if you're invisible to women you won't have to deal with alimony and child support :)

juliusstreicher 9y ago

Man! That's great news! Is there even a downside????

DancingC0w 9y ago

Not sure if burned or blessed hahaha

Sdom1 9y ago

One thing to remember is that women are absolutely TERRIBLE judges of anything's size. Their spatial reasoning is not as good as the average man's. Plus, they're shorter than men, so combine the bad spatial reasoning with the fact that they're looking up, and they really don't know how tall you are. They might think a 5'10 guy is 6'0. They do the same thing with dicks - fuck them well and they think your dick is big, oftentimes.

Fun game, ask them to mark off 6'' on a piece of paper. They tend to fail.

In other words, unless you're a real shorty or she's tall, most women aren't all that great at telling height.

bat_mayn 9y ago

Many women have no concept of measurements - it's all social status and poor judgment as you said. It's the same with dick size, so many women will claim to have been with a guy who had a huge dick if you ask them about it. Over 10 inches or more. Most of them are full of shit or have no clue, they'll just take the guy's word for it.

"Really - 11 inches?"

"Yeah, measured from the bottom of the asshole of course."

wll89a 9y ago

"Nah, this is six inches." whips out dick

(Well, actually 5 and 3/4 but well)

scissor_me_timbers00 9y ago

Good point about their inferior spatial reasoning. You're the first person on the thread to bring that up and I think it's really the root issue of why women suck gauging these things. Men, being evolved to hunt and fight and explore, etc. have significantly more developed spatial reasoning abilities than women. Ever notice how many women mess up even with left/right? Inferior spatial reasoning. It's all thoroughly scientifically established and documented.

blackwallsound 9y ago

Every sane person in the world would fail to mark off 6" on a piece of paper.

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KnowBrainer 9y ago

I'm 5'9". Asked a girl who is exactly my height, she said she's 5'8" and I'm 6 feet.

VCR_Lube 9y ago

Contrary, I'm exactly 5'8" and my gf thinks I'm 5'5". People are terrible at judging height.

Lo-G 9y ago

Sounds more like your gf thinks you're beta.

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MachoMonk 9y ago

im 5"9 and consistently thought to be like 5"11. They also are stupid with dicksizes. If you are slightly above average and shes attracted to you, you are suddenly like 9 inches

slay_it_forward 9y ago

But on The Red Pill all that matters is Looks Money Status! What is status btw?

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WidmerBeer 9y ago

Status can be categorized as popularity. Poor Rock Stars have no money, and sometimes are fugly as hell, but they have status which lets them bang all the broads at the concert.

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afkb39sdfb 9y ago

Wtf is a poor rock star? Is that like a poor movie star?

WidmerBeer 9y ago

You've obviously never known any college kids that have toured. There's not a dollar to their name, they don't take showers everyday, their hair is grungy as hell and they wake up with hangovers and broads next to them daily. Except the bass player of course.

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Toolman890 9y ago

Girls are TERRIBLE at measurements. They think 5'9-10 is 6'. Most guys are within acceptable height range.

Same with penis size. They think 5' is 7' lol. They're stupid as fuck.

Elodrian 9y ago

You're not taking perspective into account. You're measuring from where it meets the pubic bone because that's the angle you're accustomed to seeing it from. She's measuring from where it meets the scrotum because that's the angle she's accustomed to seeing it from.

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KnowBrainer 9y ago

TIL my dick is huge because I measure from the butthole

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TheHappyGiant 9y ago

I believe it's 18% of the dating age male population is 6' or taller.

max_peenor 9y ago

It probably matters where you are. I'm obviously tall when I'm in California. I'm meh, just another guy, when I'm in Northern Europe.

CENTURIQN 9y ago

The global average height for men is 5'9. Generally Westerners are taller than Africans or Asians.

blackwallsound 9y ago

Unless you're from the Dinaric Alps where the average male height is 6 feet tall. God bless the Balkans.

Werewolf35b 9y ago

Women think any man taller than them is "tall". I'm 5'9" AMD my wife thinks I'm tall. Helps if your slim.

Polaris382 9y ago

I dont know, I think people focus/worry too much about height.

Im 5'9" and have NEVER felt insecure about or hindered by it (not to say its never happened though, Im not a psychic). I really dont feel like its that big of a deal. Granted, if I were like 5'5" or something I might feel a little different...

RetiredTimeHo 9y ago

5'9" and have NEVER felt insecure about or hindered by it

Well that's average height. At 5'9" your height is neutral. It's not tall but it's not short. It neither hurts you nor helps you.

At 5'11" and above your height is helping you with women. It's boosting your SMV by virtue of height alone. Women are selecting you because of your height.

At 5'7" and below your height is actively and directly hurting your chances with women. Women are now DISQUALIFYING you as a potential mate.

WidmerBeer 9y ago

Can confirm. I'm 5'10 and was trying to get with this 5'9 Russian chick. She said I was so short for a man.

Learned something new, if you want to meet women wear shoes that add at least 1" to your height. Also, Cowboy boots are high heels for men that's acceptable in certain environments. If you like country, congrats you just gained 3 inches on your height the next time you go to a concert.

pogiface 9y ago

I would have said "yeah i know what you mean, women over age 30, over 150 lbs, or those that already have children are invisible to me as well"

indlife 9y ago

It seems the whole 6' thing is a recent fad for younger (teens, college age) women. I'm late 30s and at 5'9", I actually had plenty of women show interest in me, even some taller girls, girls that were almost as tall as me. What harmed me were beta traits like instantly wanting a relationship, telling non-virgins that their past bothered me because I was still one, etc.. I remember that one of the shorter guys in my high school class was literally the most popular guy in my class and the entire school. Dated plenty of good looking girls, likely hooked up with others during the times he was single. Guy was nice to everyone also.

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Destroyer_Wes 9y ago

The average height for an American male no matter what the race is 5'9 and a half

UCISee 9y ago

Can confirm. I'm 5'11" and some change. LTR's let dude was like 6'4" or some shit. She makes offhand comments sometimes about not being able to wear heels. FYI she's 5'6". She had some pictures developed and they showed I'm nearly a head taller than her. Women simply have a terrible eye for measurements. I mean, why do you think every chick thinks every dude has an 10" dick?

bigcitytruth 9y ago

Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Matthew McConaughey and David Beckham are all 5'11".

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Dietyz 9y ago

im 6'2 and a girl recently asked me how tall I was, she thought I was atleast 6'5

to be fair she was like 5'1 so im a giant compared to her regardless

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People also generally suck at determining height from just pure vision. A guy who's like 5'10" or 5'9" will look six feet tall if there are shorter men around him.

I would say that your height is really only gonna effect your game if the chick is taller than you or you're like 5'5" and below.

verify_account 9y ago

Christ I'm 6'2" and this still brings back the anger in me. I'd say I'm taller than 80% of the people I meet but we forget the bottom 80% of men are invisible to even the most average woman.

Evilpagan 9y ago

I don't waste my time on average women, who would want an average woman anyways? I'm not invisible to women, I can luck out and get a 7 or 8 now and then. I am definitely not a 20%.

Evilpagan 9y ago

The bottom 80% of men are invisible to the average woman? Get off the crack, man.

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stonepimpletilists 9y ago

speak for yourself. I'm 5'8, and never had a problem being noticed.

the trick is to walk up and fucking say hi. All of a sudden your visibility increases exponentially. Fill out a shirt and be more interesting than a log, bamn

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Entropy-7 9y ago

I think in the USA about 5-in-6 are under 6 feet while in Scandinavia it is the average. But the misperceptions are just another manifestation of the OKCupid data that showed women think that something like 80% of men are below average in looks.

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Nobody notices short guys and nobody notices bag ladies, fair trade. Good thing I'm over six ft.

squidracer 9y ago

Which is statically 14% of men..

They aren't even following the 80/20 rule anymore

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GUYS. Stop worrying about height. The chicks who wont fuck with you cause your height are missing out. I'm 5'5'' & chubby (Haven't had time/Money to start lifting yet), and bitches still love me. Just be the best most alpha version you can be.

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eddiae 9y ago

5'5 is legit midget in my book, i mean its cool that you get laid but you're restricted to very short women, you basically look like a kid wich makes it difficult to project masculinity.

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