Trump has had a lot of friction with Fox host Meagon Kelly. Kelly is the most attractive, white, blond “strong independent” women on Fox. She is the darling of the network and the conservative media in a lot of ways. Donald Trump has had some run-ins with her where she's tried to destroy his frame by calling him a misogynist. This is a very direct and effective tactic a women like her can use. She’s attractive and knows it, and can smell even the slightest sense of intimidation in a man. Her acuity for spotting a weak frame is likely far more developed than most normal women’s senses. She knows she can manipulate most men with shame, pressure, directness, event flirtation. These are the tools that the world has shown her work on men. Except when she runs into guys like Donald Trump. Trump can immediately spot manipulation and bullshit in people. More importantly he can spot a situation that WILL NOT be beneficial to him. He saw that situation with Kelly when he was put on the spot by her on national television. She unleashed a super effective shaming tactic on him that he handled perfectly. He stuck to his conviction and didn’t let her topple him. He never looked nervous, and most importantly he never conceived EVEN AN INCH. He then went on to trash talk her and call her a bimbo and refused to debate if she was the moderator.
Trump effectively risked being seen as a huge asshole (moreso than already) simply because he stuck to his convictions. This is a vital lesson to all men. Never ever let the hottest girl in the room manipulate you and break your frame. Never give in. Let’s say you’re having an argument with a hot girl at a party. Tension is rising and people are noticing you arguing with her. She can sense every little change in your comfort level, and she will exploit it without remorse to get her way. She will not feel bad for making you crack and feel nervous. Pressure and nervousness make you doubt your convictions, it generates the voice in your head that says “maybe I’m wrong, maybe this person has a point and I’m being an asshole.” “all these people think I’m an asshole, I should give in a little bit”. DO NOT listen to this voice. This voice is social pressure changing your state and influencing your inner beliefs. This happens a lot around hot girls and conflict.
Let’s say you are flirting with a hot girl at a party. Maybe you say something uncalibrated and she takes offense. She then calls you out on it. Ask yourself, “what would Donald Trump do?” would he apologize? Nope! Even if you make a mistake, NEVER apologize to a girl. Especially when you’re in public. Sometimes you need to welcome the incoming conflict that develops. Don’t run away from it with the excuse of “I don’t want to rock the boat” or “I will look like an asshole” This is EXACTLY what the girl wants you to do and think. This is not about who is right or wrong. You can be 100% wrong and you should STILL stick to your beliefs. I have seen plenty of situations where the person who is wrong still come out on top because they didn’t let some bully or hot chick break their frame.
If you get into a frame battle with a chick, accept it and do not back down. Most people, especially girls will be submissive to people who stick to their convictions no matter what. If a situation needs to turn ugly or awkward because of it. LET IT. Being a man means allowing that shit to happen. Do not be afraid of awkward conflicts. Donald Trump isn’t, and he’s kicking ass regardless if you like him or not.
Stick to your guns.
Don’t be afraid of awkward confrontations and conflict.
Don’t be afraid of being wrong and looking bad in front of others.
Never feel guilt for your beliefs and apologize.
CrazyHorseInvincible 8y ago
Your formatting is absolute shit. But I'm still going to let this stay because the actual content is decent, and I have been hoping for a good writeup of Trump vs. Kelly for some time.
Keep it coming. But fix your shit readability.
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redestofthereds 8y ago
A friend and I were at a bar. We were taking shots at each other.
I made a remark about his age.
He shot back with "Well, why don't you ask your mom."
I was stunned by that comment because (A) don't talk about my mom and (B) his mom is dead.
I should've called him out for saying that shit but goddamn, it was an awkward situation and I let it get the best of me because I still wanted to be sensitive about his mother passing away.
Upvote_To_The_Left 8y ago
I dont understand what the hell you are even saying. Your friend goofed on you with a "your mom" joke. Thats just joshing and not grounds for a fucking battle dude. Relax.
redestofthereds 8y ago
Sorry about the writing. I wasn't paying attention.
What bothered me was that he wouldn't say that shit to anybody else in our social circle and I don't buy that he wouldn't react in an aggressive manner had anybody else made a similar remark to him.
I guess that's the reason why I'm here. My bad about the babbling.
Upvote_To_The_Left 8y ago
No worries man. Sometimes you got to babble! ;)
flexiblehold 8y ago
Trump a few days ago began hinting he may not attend this debate, since Kelly had treated him unfairly previously. Then Fox taunted him with this childish press release:
("We learned from a secret back channel that the Ayatollah and Putin both intend to treat Donald Trump unfairly when they meet with him if he becomes president — a nefarious source tells us that Trump has his own secret plan to replace the Cabinet with his Twitter followers to see if he should even go to those meetings.")
Trump responded correctly by backing out, costing Fox millions (likely) in ad revenue. That anyone would characterize this as a "temper tantrum" by Trump is lol to me -- to the extent his behavior is narcissistic, so what? It is textbook frame control, and is a meta way of demonstrating to the general electorate he will not cow-tow to anyone -- the truth is, the American people want that from our next President, we're sick of political correctness and apologies and ass-kissing. I find Trump in many ways a cartoonish buffoon, but applaud this recent news-cycle hijack.
max_peenor 8y ago
He found out they were going to bring in some batshit crazy (muslin) female blogger to be one of the moderators. It was clearly an assassination attempt. He told them to fuck off. He knows he will have to deal with this harpy during the general election debates. It isn't a matter of cowardice. He's just punishing Fox. Makes me laugh.
Diarrhea_Van_Frank 8y ago
Trump surely has his flaws, but I guarantee we won't see him apologizing for America to foreign leaders or crying on national television like the Pussy-In-Chief we have now.
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true_detective_sf 8y ago
Crying about young children being slaughtered on your watch is not being a pussy.
flexiblehold 8y ago
Perhaps privately crying is ok, but a man publicly crying is weak, if not shameful, especially from the "leader" of the free world.
Diarrhea_Van_Frank 8y ago
Losing your composure in public as the leader of the free world for any reason makes you a pussy. He didn't get the job because we expect him to lose his shit every time something bad happens. Kids die every day for a million different reasons and no one else falls apart over it. He's the reason the US isn't respected in the world. He's a bitch.
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Trump is an absolute mastermind thus far on the campaign trail, and this is just another calculated move that will ultimately end in his favor.
There have been plenty of debates on this subreddit about if trump is or isn't TRP, and I'm not about to start another. But both sides of that aisle should be able to see what he is doing and learn from it. The amount of unlikely victories trump has had thus far is absolutely staggering as is stunning. He knows how to handle being in a position of power, and that is where he is right now.
By doing a townhall on another channel he will take away a huge chunk of ratings from fox. He also will place himself above the rest of the candidates almost like he as already won the nomination. Oh, and donating all proceeds to veterans? That's 100% strategy as well. He hasn't lost yet, and i doubt Fox News and Megan Kelly will sink him (they've been trying to for months with the exception of Oreilly)
He is also the human embodiment of frame. His rule of never apologizing sounds childish, but what is even sadder is that it works on the masses. Had he apologized to McCain, to the Muslims, to anyone he would be sitting at 2% in the polls right now. If he isn't TRP then he at least is proof the tenets work.
Call him an idiot all you want. But this campaign will be studied by future political science majors until the end of time
B1tfury 8y ago
You are right. It is a calculated move. Hell, he wrote a book on deal making. He understands that by going to the Fox debate he is in a losing situation. He doesn't participate in "deals" that are a loss to him. He also understands that Fox is the one that needs him - not the other way around.
By doing so, he is demonstrating to America that he isn't going to back down to bullshit deals from the rest of the world.
Nofap192192 8y ago
The only people who think Trump is not RP are the ones who don't understand the genius behind his campaign. Those are the forever BP's, unable to read between the lines and only able to see surface interactions
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The SJW tactic of making you apologize in good faith that they stop their attacks, and when you do they do not stop their attacks and keep pressing using the apology as further fuel. that doesn't work when the guy doesn't apologize. I said this before here, if no one bowed down the SJW's wouldn't be able to use this popular tactic anymore because it only works when guys apologize.
Charlie Sheen also did this during his breakdown and the entire world was fixated on him. Critics came, they left beaten, Sheen walked away even more popular. Both men are examples of why you hold frame with women or even in public. Once you apologize you are scum beneath their shoes. Don't apologize you are a deity above their heads.
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It's sad, but simply brains are wired to associate apologizing with being wrong so much that if someone doesnt apologize they will often assume they are outright.
Trump holding ground during the Muslim ordeal and gaining in popularity after was something I never in a million years would think possible
qlqrlk 8y ago
Why is it sad that not apologizing for something that's not your fault works?
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There have been many times where he should have apologized. Should, in terms of guilt. Not in terms of what wins campaigns
qlqrlk 8y ago
I've observed in minute detail everything Trump has said and done since I watched his presidential announcement three days after he made it. Not once have I seen anything to be guilty of.
redpillcynic 8y ago
the fuck are you talking about? Zero
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trpftw 8y ago
And that's exactly why he lost my vote.
When you're wrong you SHOULD apologize.
Not apologizing for being right is of course the right thing to do. But Trump is just plain wrong and because he doesn't apologize, that just makes him look insane and not fit to be president.
Charlie Sheen will only get away with it, if he's right. If there's evidence that he infected people with diseases knowingly, he's going to get burned regardless of whether he apologized or not.
Apologies are what you do when you KNOW you're wrong and everyone else knows it too as a way to RECOVER any chance of being forgiven left. As a way to save any ounce of respect people had in you. They are a last resort, but continuing not to apologize even when you're horrifically wrong is just being stupid.
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He's playing people. That's what he does. The masses view not apologizing as him being right. He isn't insane. He's a genius
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baron_von_f 8y ago
This is not how to deal with leftists. Never apologize. They will not forgive you. You will NEVER recover after apologizing.
trpftw 8y ago
He will never recover after NOT apologizing. He MIGHT recover after apologizing.
He's never gonna win a general election... never. You think anyone forgave Trump? They see him as the next Hitler, even more dangerous than Strom Thurmond and Pat Buchanan combined. That's how they view him.
It's one thing to have Romney or McCain who are likeable candidates who can draw out independents... but it's a totally different thing where Trump energizes the liberals to come out to vote in droves.
denart4 8y ago
Exactly, thats why he didn't apologize.
trpftw 8y ago
So why respect him or defend him?
He was wrong. That's all that matters in this life.
The perception where he paints himself as righteous, is just narcissism. It's a sickness. It's not normal. It's not recommended to anyone in TRP.
You wouldn't date an NPD woman who never apologizes to you when they do terrible things to you.
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Zachar1a 8y ago
I'm sorry, but Sheen has a raging case of narcissistic personality disorder, and so does Trump. In Sheen's case, it got him AIDS.
eyesofthespirals 8y ago
Dude is a walking textbook on holding frame.
Jeb- Hey Don, apologize to my wife!
Donald- No
Jeb- ok....
Hillary- Well we all know Donald Trump is a mysoginist!
Donald- You're married to a rapist and helped to silence the victims
Hillary- (radio silence)
aa223 8y ago
Guac man is the perfect example of someone who loses his frame and a perfect example of someone you shouldn't base your personality on. And Hilary has skeletons bursting out of her closet.
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VictorEremitaK 8y ago
You got a youtube link for that?
putinbusch 8y ago
Did that 2nd one really happen?
Lord_Varys 8y ago
I hate Trump but I love that he will actually call Hillary out for her shit.
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Exactly. SJW's common tactic of asking for an apology and instead of stopping attacks using said apology to fuel further attacks is a bitch/cunt move but it's their favorite thing to do because it works. But it only works as long as guys apologize. Do not apologize and you can actually bring the debate towards facts, which leftists, SJW's, and feminists never have on their side. Trump is using this to win.
Personally I think Trump is redpill as fuck. See all the hot women he married over the years? He likely naturally learned to deal with them since a young age due to his wealth. No messing around he chose the winning strategy to deal with them and that happens to be something close to redpill tenets. He might not be able to save the country in the next 4 years due to extensive damage by the current administration but he can at least call out this PC culture and make it known the SJW's don't have as much power as people think. Also Megyn Kelly might be conservative but she's my least favorite of the female anchors on Fox. Not sure why she has her own show besides looks and sometimes she messes up her hair to screw that up even.
Vovamas 8y ago
I wanted to write about this long ago, especially in the light of recent events. There was a post about the Anglo-Saxon expert, whatever his name may be, who openly hurled a boulder at the feminist camp, even mentioning (and promoting) trp and manosphere ideas in his rant. That brought something to my attention. Since the guy is likely to get hit by a megatsunami of sjw and feminist rage, he (and all of us) need to remember what to do in those situations. SJWs operate not very differently from bullies with a very low confidence. That's why their punitive campaigns usually start very low-key, with phrases like "I am so dissapointed in X, because he said he doesn't believe in wage gap" being the headlines. But if you yield to them even a bit, their self-esteem and sense of own power will quickly swell up, and the bullying will quickly take on more cruel and aggressive forms, i.e. "X is a piece of shit who shouldn't ever be allowed to hold a job". For the same reason they wouldn't leave victims alone for a long time - feeling powerful is highly addictive to the feminized betas that comprise SJW ranks. But by holding the frame, you can scare them off and potentially even win the admiration from females standing behind those spineless cucks.
A lot of non-TRP targets of SJW and feminist harrassment fail to grasp it. They try to compromise with them, or, in the worst case scenario, publicly apologize. This only works if you didn't overstep any "safe" boundaries or your plausible deniability game is strong. Think of Matt Taylor, aka the guy who landed probe on a comet and got roasted for wearing a shirt to the interview that had slightly undressed women on it. He only got spared and managed to keep his job because his "offense" was way too insignificant, and the feminist propaganda machine couldn't really put any spin on their version of the story from there(Matt Taylor is patriarchal a-hole who opresses women in STEM with his misogynistic shirts). And it's not that he emerged a victor from that fight either - his five minutes of public embarassment would mare his reputation and smv for a long time.
TL,DR. Never feel sorry for your actions, especially when SJWs are after your ass.
rwwman50 8y ago
Trump is basically a real life Randian hero. She writes at length in one of her books about how for the left to succeed they need the consent of the people they attack/ scapegoat for society's problems. Trump shows that what Ayn Rand had Reardon do at the trial is actually an effective technique in the real world against SJW/Feminist insults and accusations. Refuse to even grant that their ridiculous grievances have any merit. The second Trump said "only Rossie O'Donnel," even if that wasn't necessarily true, everyone knew he was really saying "I'm actually not sexist, I'm just an asshole who will treat women who corn after me just like men who do. I refuse to grant you or any woman any sort of Special treatment." This resonated with a lot of men, and some women, even if they don't really understand why yet. When people attack you personally there is no reason to give any ground, if you said or did something the only reason to apologize is that YOU think it was wrong, if you apologize for any other reason you not only look weak, but you are now a liar too.
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His current wife seems alright - fluent in multiple languages (which is no easy feat), her own success as a model, it seems like 5th time the charm for him.
I don't sense she's a gold digger because while she married up (obviously), she has enough talent (and was already a model and talented linguist beforehand) to be successful no matter what.
If they ever divorce, she doesn't seem like the type to fleece him (not that she would be able to, as Donald makes his wives sign pre-nups and Non-disclosure agreements).
DroppinHadjisLandR 8y ago
I'd really like to see Rand Paul as his VP. He has the experience and intelligence to feed Trump the correct targeting data and Trump has the balls to pull the trigger.
fingerthemoon 8y ago
I'd like to see that as well but TPTB will never let a Paul get any real power. He aims to strike at the root of corruption (federal reserve) and that will never be allowed to happen.
Sanders talks about the 1% but it's all bullshit. His policies will only help cement their control and he never talks about the Money Masters. Paul is the only real threat to them and not really much of a threat at that.
TheHappyGiant 8y ago
Would love to see that but Ted Cruz is much more likely as his VP choice. They've been very civil to each other up until this point.
jrr6415sun 8y ago
Rand Paul has said a ton of bad things about Trump and definitely hates Trump, there is no way he would be his VP
gardens4lyf 8y ago
Law 2: Never Put Too Much Trust In Friends, Learn How To Use Enemies
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zenkibudo 8y ago
Yes, it is a famous feud. But people and politics are full of surprises. Specifically, if Trump offered Rand Paul the slot, I could see him accepting it, and the tone changing. Rand Paul is, after all a politician. And politicians seize opportunities for advancement; often despite the cost to ego, what have you.
ANUS_CONE 8y ago
You'd pull a marginal, yet not-insignificant number of the disenfranchised Bernie Sanders millenials from the D's if you put Paul on the Republican ticket.
jrr6415sun 8y ago
I could see Rand taking the position if it was offered as it would be the next best thing for him, but I don't see Trump as someone that would make someone who has said bad things about him his VP. If trump won't forgive Meagon Kelly, I don't see him being nice to Rand after he called Trump an “orange-faced windbag”, "Gollum" and "A speck of dirt is way more qualified to be president."
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/267039-rand-trump-is-an-orange-faced-windbag
IM_PRETTY_RACIST 8y ago
Obama and Hillary had brutal fights when they were both running yet he offered her the position he did (though it may have been a deal to keep her from running).
Point is, people say things at this stage but those guys know not to take stuff personally and will make a strategic decision. I definitely would like a Trump/Paul presidency but have my doubts on it happening. I really have no idea who Trumps vp could be.
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ezyano 8y ago
Trump is Redpill, indeed (though he was before the term existed so we'll use Alpha).
Keep in mind Bill Clinton was Alpha, as well. I imagine this is why Hillary has done well in politics, from learning from the Alpha that she's been with all these years and emulating Bill.
But emulating only gets you so far. Look at Cruz and O'Malley. They both talk and use gestures like they've been up all night studying Reagan, Kennedy and Clinton tapes. They use mannerisms and pauses that mimic. It's clear, though, that both are actors and second rate actors. And they're doing much worse, and if I may say so, are cringe-worthy to watch.
Trump is genuine...from his confidence and self-assurance. Does he know politics intimately? Not really. He's never held political office. But he's a world class salesman, slinging golf courses and real estate around the world like nobody's business. Can those skill sets transition to a strong presidency? Probably not. But maybe. It's sort of a wild card. The one thing that's for certain is this is the most exciting, weird presidential primary I've ever seen.
macksdowntownsong 8y ago
He has been involved with politics forever, though indirectly. He is a big name donor to a lot of politicians and he was trying hard to be Bush's pick for VP in 1988.
TheThingsIThink 8y ago
Frame, yes. Money is his game. Unless his plan is to to take a financial wash every couple of years when he trades his aging model for something fresh off the floor. I suppose you could posit being a philander would be bad for business and politics. Edit- so he gets married for business sake. Otherwise always wanting to be married (and not breeding) is pretty blue pill.
redambience 8y ago
Trump is old-school traditionalist and was raised in a time where Marriage actually meant something. I doubt he has anyone around him reaffirming TRP's "Don't Get Married" mantra (and even if he did, he'd ignore them because he's Trump).
trpftw 8y ago
Because he's a billionaire and thus attracts women and is surrounded by yes-men that have pumped up his ego for decades and he has developed full-blown narcissistic personality disorder?
TRP would never advise a subscriber to date an NPD woman... but for some reason... Trump gets a billionaire-beta pass.
Even Trump admits they are all gold-diggers in his book and talks about all the lawyers and prenups.
Every girl dating Trump is doing it for money and fame. He's not attractive. He's a narcissist according to anyone with a basic understanding of psychology. He's not fit.
The only thing he has going for him is fame, power, and money. He's as red pill as just about any natural narcissist.
Absolutely he should call it out... I totally compliment Trump on that. But he should do it as someone not running for president.
Plenty of others call it out too but you don't see them running for president.
Megyn Kelly is a trained lawyer and argues very logically. She's popular and always makes great arguments on politics. That is why she has a show. She's probably more Machiavellian and redpill than Trump.
And she was calling out SJWs before Trump.
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trpftw 8y ago
Worshiping someone for their power and money and fame is by far the most bluepill shit you can do.
It means you're dissatisfied with your own life and envious.
PlaneHijacker 8y ago
Argues very logically? Surely, you must be sarcastic
[deleted] 8y ago
Bill Gates is beta as fuck.
spaceythrowaway 8y ago
Clearly you don't remember the ruthless as fuck '80s and '90s Bill Gates
BradPill 8y ago
I think he turned beta: in his younger days he seemed very shrewd, ripping an OS, wrapping it with a ribbon and then selling it to IBM - that is how Windows started (iirc).
But now that he has too much money, and married with kids (!), he got all soft with his Africa projects and what not. And oh, his 'GoodNews' initiative..... as if....
pirateninj4 8y ago
Don't try to argue against his candidacy as a president in this sub.
The Trump circle-jerk is real and feral.
trpftw 8y ago
It's incredible how brainwashed some of these kids are.
It's like they don't understand that NPD is not the same as being Redpill.
None of them would date an NPD woman... none.
Thotwrecker 8y ago
That's why this is smart by Trump. Megyn Kelly tried to shit on Trump, and expected Trump to fold and flop under the very real, logical argument that he's a misogynist and terrible person, and has a history of crap that should disqualify him from the highest office. Trump just dumped on her and slipped the noose set up for him - ONCE. He cannot do that again and he knows it. She will be out for blood, and she's very good at what she does. I have no hate for Megyn Kelly because she plays her role wonderfully - she will have been priming and optimizing her attack plan, and she might just slaughter him.
Trump is acknowledging reality here and trying to make his surrender look like a power move. It's a ballsy move which will could be interpreted as "Trump has zero respect for bullshit Fox debates" which will coincide with Fox's shitty reputation even amongst republicans.
He also knows he is a serious revenue generator, moreso than Megyn Kelly. Him not attending the debate makes the debate insanely boring, because let's be honest, who gives a fuck about Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush - everyone tuning in wants the drama that Trump will provide. Trump is saying if he cannot get what he wants, he'll hit 'em in the pockets.
Trump is definitely getting over-circlejerked in TRP, but his strategy here is not just NPD on steroids - it's rational and a thought-through gamble that might pay off.
macksdowntownsong 8y ago
doubtful
she is afterall a woman who has coasted by on her looks while Trump is a very successful businessman with decades of experience dealing with some of the craftiest and most under-handed people on the planet.
trpftw 8y ago
Maybe not "ONLY NPD on steroids" but definitely is NPD on steroids and NO ONE in TRP would ever date an NPD woman... and yet some people want him as their leader... It's insanity.
Plenty of other good republican candidates who speak out about political correctness and immigration, but they are totally getting ignored by the circlejerk.
Trump is going to watch as the debates go by and everyone calls him a pussy for not debating. Trump is going to watch as Fox News gets the ratings that he thought were only because of him. His poll numbers will collapse and he's going to lose Iowa. When people's illusions of "trump the winner" is shattered, people will stop supporting him because he's no longer a winner, but a debate dodger just like he dodged the vietnam draft.
As a TRPer, I have enough drama with women... I don't need a mangina like Trump causing drama on tv too. I like my politics as serious and educational... not "entertainment." All Trump ever says is "make america great again" and doesn't utter any policy ideas. He's just an emotional panderer.
Megyn Kelly is one of the BIGGEST FIGHTERS OF ULTRAFEMINISM and unfairness to men. Megyn Kelly argues with SJWs and liberal hacks all the time. Megyn Kelly has done more to support RedPill Philosophy than the whole history of Trump's life. And she did not deserve to be bullied by Trump and people need to stand up for justice in TRP. Betas and narcissists bully people because they can. Alphas stand up for justice and order of the pack.
massivewang 8y ago
Interesting take from Scott Adams.
"On the 2D playing field, Trump appears petulant and whiney. Maybe narcissistic, fascist, and a little bit of Hitler too. And as FOX cleverly pointed out, negotiating with foreign leaders won’t be easier than Megyn Kelly’s questions.
So Trump loses badly in the second dimension.
Let’s shift to the third dimension and see if the view is different. For starters, tell me what you learned about all the other candidates today.
Nothing?
Trump sucked the oxygen out of the room. Again. And the issue – as always – is something we can jabber about forever. It is jabber-ready by design, so the media and the public will have no time and no brain cycles left to consider his competition. "
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/138125409321/trump-fox-news-and-megyn-kelly-explained-master
Thotwrecker 8y ago
This was a great perspective, thanks for sharing. It's true, his making an enemy out of Fox might be his best play at taking advantage of the growing disdain across party lines for Fox and what it represents - old school, bloated wimpy republicans. He loses the battle, but he reiterates that the war is really about him. There's no other candidate we give a fuck about seeing - if Chris Christie didn't want to show up, no one would give a damn. All eyes are indeed on Trump, and his absence might just reiterate that.
redpillcynic 8y ago
Sounds butthurt as fuck.
By your logic, broke ass hobos on the street would be the most admirable people in the world.
Trump's wealth and his success isn't something to shit on. It's his best traits. Get your slave morality out of here.
trpftw 8y ago
Yes it is. His success and wealth are not traits to be admired in a man. They are traits to HAVE to attract women. But they are not what we want in an ideal man or leader.
They have nothing to do with the presidency of the US.
If you suck the cock of every wealthy and successful man, just because they are born into wealth, then I pity your beta sheep brain.
redpillcynic 8y ago
You must be unsuccessful yourself
trpftw 8y ago
You're the one who's envious of Trump and telling others that they should suck his cock.
It's pretty clear you admire Trump for being lucky and born into wealth. That is something poor people do.
spaceythrowaway 8y ago
Most people who are born into wealth like Donald end up as shitty losers, not running for presidents.
That alone is a massive achievement in my book
trpftw 8y ago
Simply not true. Name me one hundred millionaire born into it who didn't later become a billionaire.
It's impossible to squander 100s of millions. It takes a few forms to run for president and is incredibly easy for a TV celebrity to run because he already has name-recognition.
Icaria25 8y ago
That kind of fame, power and money are objective SMV boosters and no, not even 1% of natural narcissists got that going for them.
You lack objectivity there.
To get those things he had to be enlightened in some way. Social chatter dynamics aren't all there is about reality. He maybe isn't the best in them, but he has a lot of other RP traits going for him.
That said by someone who thinks Trump would never change anything for good substantially. I don't think he act in the best interest of USA, but for sure he doesn't mind to speak freely and it's not a "beta". When you are rich as fuck you are entitled to your vices, be it smoking or trophy wives.
Well entitled is a weird word, i just mean he can probably get them and forget them without much of a thought. Much like a sport. top 0.01%/1% probably needs no standard masculinity to be considered a catch, or to consider himself so, and that's what's attractive about him to people.
He's just here to distract people from the obvious retarded game USA politics are nowadays, to show substance where there is none. I wouldn't trust him, i just consider him RP. His game may not be tuned to fucking hot chicks, but he doesn't need to use it for that. It's probably going for something else and the game at that high of a level can get very complicated imo.
trpftw 8y ago
The idea that narcissism, wealth-born, and fame as worthy of respecting are pathetic reasons to like a candidate.
The fact that you are arguing it's attractive is disgusting. No intelligent man in the planet would respect someone for these reasons.
Just because they attract gold diggers doesn't mean you should see him as "alpha". Attracting gold diggers with money and narcissism does not mean that you emulate that. It does not mean you respect a person who did that.
If I was born with 100s of millions of dollars, I wouldn't squander it like Trump and then end up with only single-digit billions. Plenty of investors think that Trump could have not touched his money and put it in an index fund, and made even more money in the 30 years time that he did.
Being born into wealth, is not the type of person you stick up for in TRP... That's pathetic. It's pathetic that you have to defend him ... literally for being a narcissist and wealthy.
RP is not about being a narcissist, famous, or wealthy. It's about self-improving as a man and creating smart sexual strategy, something Trump hasn't done his whole life.
[deleted] 8y ago
She didn't argue logically in the case with Ventura vs the estate of Chris Kyle. There are other trained lawyers on Fox News and they do not get a primetime show like Megyn Kelly does. She's almost half and half I like her on one argument then another she gets stupid. Greta went through law school yet she's not primetime, and look at her she's not as pretty. That's the point I'm making Megyn is where she is mostly due to her looks. Don't fucking lie to yourself man we all know her face is the majority of the reason she was put there, the extra credentials behind that face were minor considerations. She has great moments and bad moments like any other anchor but they wanted someone pretty for the main slot most people watch at night.
trpftw 8y ago
Greta doesn't make good arguments. Megyn Kelly makes very logical arguments. It's clear you don't listen to their shows.
Megyn is not where she is because of looks. She's there because she is a trained lawyer who makes excellent logical arguments that are much more convincing than greta.
Meanwhile you're worshiping a narcissist greedy man who pompously bullies people and throws temper tantrums because they were asked "mean" questions. waaah.
I don't know what you're referring to about Kyle v Ventura and Megyn Kelly.
garlicextract 8y ago
So the only thing he has going for him are the most important things to have going for you?
Trump is a fucking moron who shouldn't be president but it certainly seems like you're going out of your way to tear him down for personal reasons.
Sementeries 8y ago
I'll take the "moron" with a set of balls and a spine before those other spastics.
trpftw 8y ago
Those are not important at all. Those are the worst traits to attract women with.
It's like... "oh you can buy women... great..."
Every woman Trump dates, is essentially a prostitute who wants to live the rich life. They're all getting paid for their time and vagina. Nothing else about him is attractive. And no self-respecting man would respect Trump for this.
B1tfury 8y ago
The only people who think Trump is a moron are people who are not smart enough to see how smart Trump is.
trpftw 8y ago
No you're an idiot who thinks being a narcissist asshole is... "smart strategy".
It could be beta envy... you're envious of someone being rich and being adored by some people, so you think it's worth defending and standing up for a beta bully like trump.
Faliceer 8y ago
It seems you fail to understand what's attractive. Money, fame, power, and he's not actually bad looking (especially for a 69 year old man) are very attractive things to women.
trpftw 8y ago
No shit they are attractive to gold diggers. But how is that something worth admiring?
Why do you circlejerkers worship him just because he was born into riches and later became famous for his money ?
Faliceer 8y ago
It's not just gold diggers, buddy.
trpftw 8y ago
When you're a famous billionaire, yes it's all gold diggers.
Modified_Hackware 8y ago
Money, fame, frame and power are attractive in their own right.
For someone claiming what TRP would and would not advise you seem thin on the ground with the 101s.
trpftw 8y ago
Just because they are attractive... because of gold diggers... doesn't mean that's the only thing we teach in TRP.
We don't tell people in TRP to "go get rich and famous... and then get laid." We say "yes it does help... but you should do all these other steps to make yourself the perfect man."
Not everyone can be born with riches like Trump. Hitting the birth-lottery and being born into riches isn't the type of advice we give in this subreddit.
You're cute.
Modified_Hackware 8y ago
He called me cute guys check his amused mastery skills...
You say this shit like all you've done is read a book.
You can believe whatever you want but I'm telling you, you ain't qualified to tell anyone in here what TRPs position is, because you haven't got it yet.
trpftw 8y ago
You're envious and attracted to a man who was born into wealth and is a narcissist. And you are telling MEN that they should be impressed/attracted by his non-existent "skills".
By any chance, are you a woman or a gold-digger?
If so, then I totally understand why you are obsessed with Trump and are acting as his personal defense lawyer.
Do you advise people in asktrp to just "be born wealthy"? Is that your "sexual strategy"?
Modified_Hackware 8y ago
I'm envious of nothing I am my own man thanks.
The fact that women find traits of dark triad tropes attractive is nothing new or particularly interesting.
foldpak111 8y ago
The only reason I'm voting for Trump is because he's the only candidate with a set of balls which is exactly what America needs. I'll take the gamble, unless you want another Bush or a woman in office...
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LetsGoAllTheWhey 8y ago
I'm voting for him to piss off the repub and demo establishment types. They don't give a damn about the people, so fuck 'em all.
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EscortVoyeurAdmin 8y ago
Thankfully I think that Europe fucked up on refugees so hard and so fast that no other country is going to be fooled. Sucks for them though.
Moldy_Gecko 8y ago
Dude, parts of South America and Mexico do the news right. The women are AWALT and know it. Same with the producers. So, they go on TV tits out, legs spread.
irun247 8y ago
"Who spells Megyn that way?"
Her mother.
destraht 8y ago
A set of videos has come out that demonstrates the horror on French freeways. The side of the freeway (that shouldn't have any pedestrian traffic) are filled with an endless stream of migrants. I watched as about every fifth migrant checked the back of the truck roll up door to see if he could get in but the guy had it wired shut with several layers of wire. The POS migrants just keep looking until they find a truck that they can quickly jump into to steal stuff as the trucks are in stop and go traffic. Its chaos. Holy fuck its out of control. I mean there were A LOT of them.
haxurmind 8y ago
I liked the video linked on the zerohedge article, where one of the migrants tried to steal the GoPro video camera recording it. IMO; an undeniable short summary of the events in Europe.
Sawagurumi 8y ago
Less about stealing, more about getting on board to smuggle across to ,England. They have become increasingly violent towards lorry drivers. The left has taken to giving them radios and wire cutters to help them storm the fences at Calais. At least ,,Eastern Europe seems to be awake. The Slovenians say Junckers idea to forcing quotas on countries is suicide. The EU is trying to blackmail the Uk into accepting quotas at the moment. But people are coming to understand you can't just have no borders, so latest idea is to seal off Greece.
D-White 8y ago
Any idea where to look for these videos?
destraht 8y ago
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-26/frances-highways-descend-chaos-lawlessness
VodkaTankerSpill 8y ago
Hahaha. Let them revel in cultural enrichment by these invaders.
Moldy_Gecko 8y ago
As much as I hate it, Bernie Sanders is the only hope I see. Still an SJW, but not as fucked in the head as Hillary and Trump.
[deleted] 8y ago
He let women take over while he was talking and was all nice about. You want a man that allows feminists get on his stage shout him down in front of everyone while he is smiling about it then you seem to be in the wrong place, look for the bluepill reddit.
Moldy_Gecko 8y ago
You noticed I pointed out he is SJW. I know he's a panderer. However, I don't trust Hillary and I would really hate to see this country ran by a Billionaire celebrity that would only be successful in one aspect (Increase in GDP). That would be embarrassing. I mean, he potentially might be good, like that Minnesota Governor was or he could be like Arnold (shit). Arnold is RP as fuck, doesn't mean he could run the country.
You seem to have taken this too much to heart. If you're willing to downvote someone because it hurt your feelings that they don't like your candidate, then you might be in the wrong place, look for the bluepill reddit.
FYI, I'm banned from BP reddit. They can't have real discussions about facts without getting overly upset. You'll probably fit in.
[deleted] 8y ago
Your response reeks of undue anger. The leftist SJW rage inside you needs to be checked. Did not even have to click the downvote button, other people see how foolish you sound without me having to point it out. You just said you want the guy who openly supports feminism as president as opposed to the guy who is against political correctness. You are at the place that discusses what happens when women get more power in any relationship, be it love or work or even government. You need to re-evaluate why you are here arguing for a feminist for president. I'm not taking idiotic words from some liberal tool on the internet to heart, I'm just telling you that you are saying some pretty weird shit whether you realize it or not.
Moldy_Gecko 8y ago
I know that me supporting him goes against a lot of views here. But we've had 16 yrs (perhaps more if you count old Bush/Clinton) of shit presidency, I don't want to make it 24. I understand my view won't be popular, but I'm independent and I don't just let one issue affect my decision. When you have to choose from a pile of shit, you choose the shiniest, cleanliest, most polished piece of shit. I'm not going to vote against some guy because he supports one group that I can't stand. A group that will fall flat under themselves as is. Even if he supports all that bullshit, I highly doubt it will make them any stronger.
His views on bailing out banks/corporations, spot on. His views about corporate taxes and their evasion, spot on. His view about corporate influence in politics, spot on.
Yes, his SJW side of things I disagree with. $15/min wage, bullshit. Universal Healthcare, bullshit. Wage gap, bullshit. I've been behind reforming how the political system is ran for most of my adult life. It's a corrupt system that breeds corruption.
I didn't mean to make it seem that I had undue anger. I was just using your words, interpret that how you may. If your words sounded like undue anger... oh well.
Anyway, I choose to come here for the "Male Sexual strategy" part of TRP. And nowadays, less as a questioner and more of an adviser. I don't come here for the part of the community that seems to be MRA.
king-schultz 8y ago
If that's true, care to explain to me how he's done so incredibly well holding frame in regards to Kelly? Seriously, every single Trump circlejerker on this sub please explain to me how he's held frame with Kelly? Was it the incessant tweeting regarding her? Was it calling her a bunch of highschool names? Was it trashing her over and over and over again? Was it the fact that he hasn't been able to let go of the fact that she asked him a legitimate and fair question? Was it the fact that he refused to do the debate if she was a moderator? Was it the cowardice he displayed by backing out because he was afraid of getting one or two tough questions from a woman? Was it the fact that he tried to get her punished by calling up her boss? Was it the fact that he had his team threaten to slander her if she was kept as moderator? Please explain this incredible example of holding frame?
Please explain it to me because I honestly can't think of more of a textbook example of a celebrity completely loses frame over a woman than Trump losing it over Kelly. In fact, I've never seen a man that's even half as successful as Trump act more insecure in my entire life. No wonder this sub is such a joke when you can't even realize what being a real man is. Hint: It's not going off like a monkey on a string every single time you get criticized or questioned. Especially by a female.
twy3440 8y ago
I have to agree that refusing to debate makes him look weak. Calling her names? Pathetic.
Polaris382 8y ago
Sounds like you're losing "frame" over this bro.
king-schultz 8y ago
True, yet I'm not put up as the role model & hero of TRP.
phrostbyt 8y ago
yea this 100%. did you guys see bill o'reilly interview him last him? he seems like a spoiled butthurt asshole. to say he's holding frame is just ridiculous
Nofap192192 8y ago
You mean where the cuck kept begging Trump to forgive fox news and do the debate, and Trump replied with a simple "no".
You jelly bruh, you'll never even be 1% the man Trump is
phrostbyt 8y ago
maybe we were watching two different interviews. trump looked like a little brat
trpftw 8y ago
He hasn't. Trump loses frame all the time. He throws temper tantrums and childish immature comments at people like a spoiled brat.
What happened with Megyn Kelly was 5 months ago and he's still throwing tantrums on twitter about it. It's because Trump is a narcissist and he hates that Megyn Kelly didn't get fired or thrown out of debates. He cannot stand someone "opposing trump and getting away with it." It haunts him.
This is exactly what someone would do if they had a huuuuuge fragile ego. Someone who isn't comfortable with themselves and content with themselves would lash out at people like Trump has.
He's basically a beta narcissist bully who happens to be a rich-born billionaire that attracts women.
Remember when Trump deleted a tweet where he said "hillary clinton couldn't satisfy her husband..." Holding frame right? Not misogyny or emotional pussy talk...
Ever heard an alpha criticizing a woman in an intellectual topic for being "sexually incapable"?
I pity the idiots on TRP who look up to Trump as an example of holding frame. He never holds frame, he just doesn't apologize because he's a narcissist.
In TRP we advise people have some confidence and self-respect... but somehow some people have confused that with a disorder like Trump's Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).
No one in TRP would advise someone to date an NPD woman... and yet here there is a thread where people are sucking off beta donald trump.
redpillcynic 8y ago
Fucking ridiculous. Chivalry is suicide. Megan Kelly doesn't play by these rules, why should he?
cantletthatstand 8y ago
Fucking right? This is politics, the stakes are real, fuck chivalry.
trpftw 8y ago
Megyn Kelly does play by the rules, what are you talking about?
What does chivalry have to do with having an ounce of respect for people you talk to.
Ever heard of manners ?
You wouldn't date an NPD woman, why would you respect an NPD man like Trump.
200mgtestc 8y ago
Trump has 10/10 NPD, but half the stuff you mentioned doesn't necessarily mean he's a narcissist, it means he's a genius promoter. The Megyn Kelly angle is the gift that keeps on giving.
I find this Trump situation fascinating because literally nothing is real. He's an internet troll playing a wrestling heel. Does he really care if she's moderating? Fuck no.
In fact, he'd probably rather the other side made her the moderator in protest. He could call her a cunt on Twitter right after they announced it and be the top news story within 5 minutes.
All right Trump, take my upvote.
twy3440 8y ago
He is an attention whore. Good point. Is he a real candidate? Not sure.
200mgtestc 8y ago
Does it matter? What does "candidate" mean anyways?
trpftw 8y ago
How the fuck do you know he doesn't care about Megyn Kelly moderating?
This Megyn Kelly fight will be the thing that brings Trump down from his ivory tower and see Trump for what he really is: a mangina afraid of debates and afraid of tough questions.
Trump is a narcissist like a mafia boss, when someone criticizes him, he throws a temper tantrum, like Hitler did, like Stalin did, like Erdogan did, like Putin did, like Assad did. These are not the type of leaders you respect.
These are criminals and corrupt people and quite a few of them were democratically elected to power.
These people are dangerous and should never be elected into office. They need xanax and other medications.
Would you trust a man who you just met if he showed signs of narcissism? Would you like him after he bullies some guy for asking him a tough question at the bar? Would you defend him after he never listens to you and can only seem to talk about himself and his own successes?
Would you date a woman with NPD ? They tend to be chronic liars and only care for themselves.
You admit he's an internet troll, let him stay on the internet, not in front of a republican race.
Megyn Kelly did more to fight feminists and SJW types than Trump ever has and some of you people here are actually defending the beta bully called Trump.
200mgtestc 8y ago
Can he legitimately answer tough questions? Of course not. That's not the point, because he doesn't have to. Trump is the last boss of NLP and Power Talk, and if he doesn't want to answer your question, he'll just make you look like a fucking idiot for asking.
Does he legitimately have policies? Of course not. That's not the point, because he doesn't have to. For the same reasons as above. If you don't agree with him, you're patently un-American. How could you not be? And then it's over.
There's no value statements there. It's neither good nor bad. Politically? Sure (although I would say that given the above, I'm not even sure if he "has" policies), you could argue it's bad. But we're not talking about politics, and neither is Trump.
VodkaTankerSpill 8y ago
Lol u really butthurt on this trump thing
irun247 8y ago
Well, he turned the million or so he inherited in multiple billions... so he increased his initial wealth several thousand times over. Most that inherit wealth cannot make such claims.
trpftw 8y ago
Incredibly easy to do if you start off with 100s of millions. Pretty much everyone who inherits hundreds-of-millions and invests it for 30 years tends to become a billionaire. Regular millionaires don't, but Trump was not a regular millionaire.
Especially in real estate & construction. You don't even have to do the work yourself. You just have to hire people to do it for you. That's it.
Finally, abusing bankruptcy laws to rip people off is not the kind of businessman I would admire. I'd admire the one who didn't need to do that and still made money.
irun247 8y ago
He didn't start off with hundreds of millions lol. His father owned low and middle income housing in NY.
I just read 2 of his books, which I'm sure was biased info, although I'm not sure where you could fact check his actual inheritance amount.
BradPill 8y ago
Every (aspiring) politician is a (natural) narcissist. Feeling special, some savior, on a mission, entitled, superior. Basking in all the (media) attention, waiting for that moment to really shine, winning brownie-points (and the next election, of course).
So yes, Trump is a narcissist. And a bully, as his arguments are often weak - and repeated ad nauseam, which is not convincing (well, to me). However, all other candidates do exactly the same - just in a different voice, about different topics, without attacking journalists personally (because they need to stay friends, being part of the in-crowd). Trump definitely could use some more intellectual advisers, giving his arguments more substance - but, as long as he is winning in the polls.... And not joining FOX anymore is great PR: he keeps the fire burning hot, he avoids any difficulties (more questions or Kelly shifting, so he warms up to her....) and, keeping the feud alive makes him look holding frame - as all others would have buckled by now, eager to be on TV again (speaking of narcissism).
So, just because Clinton appears less narcissistic than Trump doesn't mean she hasn't the exact same traits - she's just more diplomatic, PC and DT, covering her real motivations and intentions - pooling wool over the eyes of millions - for 20 years now.
trpftw 8y ago
Having some narcissistic qualities is healthy for a politician or a man.
Having a ton of narcissism to the level of donald trump, requires medication and treatment. Not running for president... They need to be involuntarily committed because they are dangerous.
Now we're arguing about things we cannot know. WE KNOW Trump is a narcissist. We don't know that Clinton is a narcissist.
When someone shows signs of mental illness, you don't elect them for president.
If you think Clinton is lying and is a narcissist, don't vote for her. But THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT A REASON TO VOTE FOR TRUMP.
BradPill 8y ago
If you're convinced Trump is a bigger narcissist than Clinton, don't vote for him.
trpftw 8y ago
You're certain that Trump is a narcissist but you are not sure Clinton is a narcissist. That's not a reason to support Trump. That's still a reason to not support Trump.
BradPill 8y ago
To me she's narcissist - just a different flavor, but more evil, more corrupt and more DT and part of the elite with their own agenda. She embodies everything you don't want in a politician.
Now I don't 'support' Trump, but his role is to disrupt the existing structures: both totally (morally) bankrupt parties and the system that keeps them in power. If he wins (big if) I doubt he will be able to change much, as he will be sabotaged from within - at least it will be a strong signal that change is needed - and supported by many.
trpftw 8y ago
According to zero evidence.
And I don't even like Hillary. I don't think she's a good person. But to say these things without evidence means you are thinking about this emotionally.
He doesn't disrupt anything. He just yells and talks nonsense on TV and bullies other people for criticizing him. That is all he has accomplished.
People don't want him in power because they realize he's a narcissist. No one wants a narcissist in power (except apparently, some TRPers who adore it).
Ah hope and change, like Obama?
BradPill 8y ago
Fine. We're done here. It's late, I shouldn't engage in politics here, so I do apologize for commenting. Let's agree we disagree.
redolas 8y ago
This is actually more like the Trump I know. He may have some red pill traits, but he's not a "real man" as we understand it. He's a joke as a man. He wouldn't stand a chance in a society of men.
Unfortunately, the straight-talking, honest man is a liability. They are an easy target, and they have been taken out of the presidential debate long time ago. By being direct and honest he wouldn't stand 5 minutes. How many people got obsessed with Ron Paul? Very few did, even if they were die-hard fans. That only helped him so much. But you wouldn't see him in every gossip-tabloid on the planet, that's for sure.
So, avoiding the debate, not answering questions, attacking the person not the message - a female strategy - works. We can learn that from him, even if we don't like him.
cantletthatstand 8y ago
I disagree that he "wouldn't stand a chance in a society of men." He's not the perfect alpha red pill Chad Thundercock, but who the fuck is? Isn't that the bar we here all aspire to? Who here has actually reached it? I'm reminded of a line from "Carry On Wayward Son," "if I claim to be a wise man, Well, it surely means that I don't know."
Someone claiming to be fully enlightened to red pill alpha Chad nirvana is full of it. Even Donald Trump isn't that guy. He was born into money and privilege (which I didn't think was a slight against character on this forum), but he also lost it quite a few times... and then rebuilt it.
redolas 8y ago
We agree.
Didn't claim to be the one.
I have nothing against that.
Respect that. He rebuilt it with his father's millions, but he did actually do the work. So yeah. Ok. It's a pass.
Still, he is a liar and a coward. I wouldn't go hunting with him and I wouldn't trust him with a weapon around me. So yeah, he would be ousted from a hunting gang of men. On second thought, he would probably do well as a shaman or some sort of religious leader.
Zachar1a 8y ago
He's not holding frame. He is reacting to her by staying away. He is going to come out of this looking like he is scared of a girl.
Sementeries 8y ago
You don't give a woman attention when she's acting like a brat.
ECoast_Man 8y ago
Trump has quick witted comebacks to lots of things, which I like. And you can see from people who talk about him that he's apparently pretty social.
However, the teenage twitter ragefests are bullshit man. If anyone did that here, who wasn't a billionaire, we would say that's fucking pussy shit.
Sementeries 8y ago
The man is the same in-person. He's not a weasel who will backpedal if you call him out on something.
If you take a jab at him, he'll spin it on you, and make you look stupid for ever opening your mouth.
ECoast_Man 8y ago
I don't disagree with that, I acknowledged it.
But the twitter ragefests are childish, I don't see a counterargument to that. It's like Facebook rants...
Sementeries 8y ago
Ha, well, if anything it is getting him more voters.
Lord_Varys 8y ago
She has been nothing but professional actually.
presidenttrump_2016 8y ago
You haven't watched her show then. Bringing Michael Moore on to badmouth Trump is not professional.
Sementeries 8y ago
Lord_Varys is talking out of his ass.
TallAndFrat 8y ago
I agree, I'm as far-right, FOX Sympathizer as they get, but this bitch is unprofessional. Probably does the shit she does because that's what the guys from above tell her to since Trump has their debate ratings by the balls, but still I'm a Trump fan and can say that he is obviously red pill. Anyone who disagrees is obviously a Liberal.
Lord_Varys 8y ago
She brings people from both sides. More conservatives than liberals I should say. Your hamster wheels are turning here big time.
presidenttrump_2016 8y ago
Who has she brought in that likes Trump?
Lord_Varys 8y ago
I don't watch her show regularly, I couldn't tell you. But she normally brings intelligent people on from both sides, which would explain why none of them support Trump.
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Zachar1a 8y ago
Here was the assessment of Mr. Trump's genius move:
AlphaEndoGorillaKing 8y ago
Trump goes beyond neutralizing situations that would make him look bad, he in fact turns them into his greatest victories. The political correctness statement in his first debate, the 9-11 card when he was attacked by Cruz, booting out protesters and trouble makers at rallies and now we'll see how dull and uneventful this next debate will be without his presence.
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EvrythingISayIsRight 8y ago
If a girl out argues you and makes you apologize then you will lose a lot of respect.
achillesjackson 8y ago
This reminds me of this one time i was making out with this girl. She was familiar with me, and said that she wouldn't take her clothes off, unless I said please. I said to her, Don Draper style "Who do you think you're talking to?" She insisted "I'm serious, you gotta say please. Otherwise I won't take my clothes off!" I remained stoic and told her, that there was no way that was going to happen. I waited for a minute, and said "Do you want ME to take your clothes off?" Her : "Yes" Me : "Say please" Her : "Please!" At the end of the session, I nonchalantly proceeded to turn away from her. She pulled my hand, spun me around, hugged me tightly and kissed me. She didn't want to let go. That's when i knew, that i owned her. Reminds me of something I read on this subreddit earlier:
"She wants to feel you are uncollapsable, so she pokes you in your weak spot.
Of course she knows how much this moment of success means to you. This is precisely why she is negating it. Not because she wants to hurt you. But because she wants to feel Shiva [your masculinity].
She wants to feel your strength. She wants to feel that your happiness is not dependent on her response, nor on you making a million dollars.
She wants to feel you are a superior man."
ChadThundercockII 8y ago
That's from the book by David Deida, The Way of the Superior Man
JeanValjean197o 8y ago
It's this one thing he does that I respect him for. To call a woman ugly to her face on live television and get away with it.
I could very well vote for him just for that.
Tharberg 8y ago
Who else is there to take your vote? Seriously. Hernie is CUCK, he doesn't have any children of his own and married a whore single mother.
Hillary is a Feminazi, I'm shocked how that animal could even try for the elections.
Trump2016 brother.
My expectations will be Hillary vs Trump.
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JeanValjean197o 8y ago
IDGAF.
None of them can save this country from the shit storm that is coming.
fakenate1 8y ago
Martin o'malley just shed a tear for being forgotten again.
seanan1gans 8y ago
Man I really like Martin, maybe 2020...
Backfist 8y ago
He has a son with a whorey female,
The now-46-year-old Levi was born on March 21, 1969 at Brightlook Hospital in Johnsbury, Vermont to Sanders and his then-girlfriend Susan Mott. The pair moved in together shortly after Sanders divorced from his first wife, Deborah Shilling Messing.
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rabbitriven 8y ago
Although I like Trump, his Foreign policy makes no sense. I'd prefer Rubio or Bush but that aint happening.
Tharberg 8y ago
What/
Do you want the US to become a 2nd France?
rabbitriven 8y ago
Do people even study or understand politics here or are they just going with the "oh he's alpha, must be a good leader" mentality?
Hey, I have an idea, lets vote Dan Bilzerian for next president? I mean he's good with the ladies!!
Tharberg 8y ago
Your ass is full of Arab cum.
Alpha = Leader/dominant.
rabbitriven 8y ago
Jesus Christ you actually have no idea about politics, just spouting words like "alpha" "leader" "dominant". You sound exactly like him throwing around these buzz terms with no actual knowledge or substance. Nothing alpha about that at all.
Theres more to being president then throwing around buzzwords and talking to beautiful women. But then again, you probably have no idea about American history, and what a true American President should entail. I recommend you perhaps read some texts on Thomas Jefferson, Lincoln or even the REAL alpha president out there, Theodore Roosevelt.
Then again, don't tell me, you're probably some white trash xenophobe who goes to rallies shouting "DEYR STEALING OUR JOBS" and "we need america great again" aren't you? What the heck does that even mean.
Tharberg 8y ago
Holy shit did you just bash your head into your keyboard? Liberal induced spastic attack?
That's all I need to know. 100% sure now you are a troll.
rabbitriven 8y ago
Ah sorry, he appeals to the minorities in the US clearly.
Oh wait, he polls lowest with them.
Cant wait to have donald trump in the histories along with presidents like Lincoln. Go TRP!
JMCastillo86 8y ago
That's because the Dems always pander to the minority in order to buy votes. once they get the vote, they screw everyone over.
trpftw 8y ago
So basically you admit he's a misogynist who loses frame and has temper tantrums because a hot journalist woman wouldn't bow down and shower the narcissist Donald Trump in praises.
He even tweeted to Hillary that "she couldnt satisfy her husband." And then promptly lost frame by deleting the tweet. Trump is a narcissistic maniac and he's a beta pussy who constantly moans and whines when people criticize him.
The only reason he has women is because he has billions which attracts women and lawyers to handle the prenups.
This thread is fucking embarrassing for TheRedPill. Bunch of betas sucking off Donald trump because they don't know what frame is and confusing misogyny and narcissism with "being alpha".
Before you get pissed at me... Would you call a man ugly for asking you a tough question? Answer me that.
JMCastillo86 8y ago
Why do you use so much shaming language?
Joseph_the_Carpenter 8y ago
Attacking character isn't a logical way to argue, but the point isn't to make a logical argument here but to make yourself look better in the eyes of everyone else. There's nothing wrong with calling a woman a bimbo if it takes the pressure off you and puts them on the defensive. Or maybe it is wrong, or it's just all an act, who cares? The only mistake you can make when arguing in politics or with women is assuming the other side has good or fair intentions for you because that's never the case. Trump wasn't there to have a rational debate with her, he was there to reinforce the public image that he doesn't give a shit about being PC and to increase his publicity. She wasn't there to have a rational debate, she was there to keep her own noteriety up and get paid by Fox News.
redpillcynic 8y ago
men and women are different. I think you're a troll, or on the wrong sub. Read the sidebar or head to the blue pill
JeanValjean197o 8y ago
You throw misogyny around as if it's a bad thing.
The world can use a little more misogyny.
I don't give a fuck about his frame or his politics.
He is, however, the first
personman that I've seen in a long time that could insult a woman to her face in front of the world and get away with it.Remember Don Imus and the "nappy headed hoes" phrase? There's a guy who had a contract and huge ratings and they still managed to fire him.
I think it's amazing that any politician can stand up to a woman on television and insult her to her face and not be ran out of town on a rail.
What do you think will happen if some cunt like Jessica Valenti or Anita Sarkeesian tries to push his buttons? If he can put some FOX host in her place then what do you think will happen to some liberal feminist blowhard?
He has the potential to do more damage to the feminist movement than all the Paul Elams and Warren Farrells put together.
It doesn't matter whether you think he lost frame. It only matters that he won.
I'm tired of seeing men cower with their tail between their legs whenever a woman starts talking her feminist nonsense. For this alone I give him credit.
It's more than you could do, isn't it?
trpftw 8y ago
It is. You make redpillers look bad.
No it can use a little fairness for men.
So you're impressed with the fact that he isn't punished... That's pathetic. And if a murderer gets away with his crime then you'll be worshiping him too right?
That woman on television is a person. If it was you being insulted you wouldn't think the same thing about Trump as you do today.
It is just so fortunate that Trump never insulted you. Therefore, you suck his cock. Like a bunch of pussy follower-betas following a "head bully" and laughing and applauding when he bullies kids in the schoolyard.
Fuck Anita... Plenty of youtubers talk a ton of shit about Anita without any problems. Why don't you worship them but you worship Trump who never said anything about Anita.
In her place? All he did was throw a childish temper tantrum and because he's a political candidate and because voters are idiots who worship bullies, he wasn't run out of town.
Fuck this bully worship.
No he doesn't. He has the potential to incite more feminists "look at Trump getting votes with all his misogyny." He will lead to a new era of even more vile and vitriolic and encouraged feminists. He will become the feminist-villain. All the women Trump bullies, will become martyrs for the feminist cause.
You just don't get it. Trump is not "putting people in their place..." Trump is not "forcing feminists to see the man's perspective." Trump is not "criticizing feminists and making others see the feminist hypocrisy..." ........ INSTEAD... Trump is BULLYING NORMAL WOMAN who ARE NOT FEMINISTS... Making them feminist heroes.
Megyn Kelly is NOTTTTTTT A FEMINIST... Megyn Kelly is the IDEAL WOMAN who THINKS LOGICALLY AND IS FAIR TO MEN.
And you are supporting Trump as he bullies her? You are the internal-enemy of redpill.
If people like you elect Trump, we are in for a new era of feminist blowhards who fuck over men.
It's not about showing courage. It's about being right. Megyn Kelly is right. Trump is wrong. It doesn't matter if Trump "showed courage" or "dared to criticizer her." What matters is that Trump was wrong and he bullied an ANTI-FEMINIST FOX NEWS HOST (Trump bullied the biggest ally RedPill has on FoxNews).
Do you even know who Megyn Kelly is? Megyn Kelly is the Fox News host who ridicules and ferociously attacks SJW types and idiotic feminists.
Trump will end up doing more damage to RedPill and men than any feminist.
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JeanValjean197o 8y ago
You lost me when you went from "insulting" to "murdered" and after that I stopped reading your little hissy fit.
If there's one thing I've learned and that is LAW on TRP, it's that if you kiss a woman's ass then she will walk all over you. If you put up with any shit test she will walk all over you.
Megyn Kelly challenged Trump on his treatment of women. Whatever "anti-feminist" credentials you think she has, she is still playing the gender card and expecting men to treat women like ladies.
It's irrelevant whether he was right or wrong. What is relevant is that he got away with it. He didn't stammer and stutter and backpedal from it. He went full speed ahead and so far it hasn't damaged him at all. If anything, it has hurt FOX News.
Also, FOX is not an ally to Redpill. FOX is an ally to FOX. They will happily throw all men under the bus to achieve that.
trpftw 8y ago
That's because you're an uneducated voter who hates reading.
You're worshiping a man who throws temper tantrums every month and you're here talking about hissy fits to people making logical arguments against Trump?
Trump is not related to red pill or sexual strategy. He's a politician running for president. Stop conflating his beta bully tantrums with alpha sexual strategy.
She was asking a legitimate question that he treats women like shit. And there are women voters.
It's very clear from Trumps' history that he's a misogynist and even TRPers who like him admit this. That's not someone you want as president.
IT IS COMPLETELY RELEVANT.
Real life is not a shit test. Politics is not sexual strategy. This is the country we are talking about here and you're still talking about women and attracting them.
So because people are pussies and let him get away with it, that means we should suck his cock?
It hasn't.
It is an ally.
No Trump is an ally to Trump. Trump doesn't care about men or redpill. He cares about himself and his power-hunger.
He throws childish temper tantrums when people criticize him. That is dangerous for anyone trying to get into office.
JeanValjean197o 8y ago
You are reading way to much into what I said.
I said I respected him for his ability to stand up to women and get away with it and you take that to mean I worship him and his politics.
You have no clue what my political bent is or my education level, but I recognize your personal attacks as a weakness in your overall argument.
We don't want a misogynist as President? What have all the other manginas that have been sucking up to women on both sides of the aisle done for men?
This country is in the shitter because men won't stand up to women. Here's a guy who not only stands up but gets away with it. At the least he will open (smash down) the door and let other men finally get a say without the feminists shouting him down.
Sure he's a dick. So what. What were all the other Presidents? Name one that wasn't on his own side and a self-promoter.
Name one that didn't send men off to die in stupid wars.
Name one that didn't capitulate to feminist bullies.
Which politicians have championed men's issues? Which politicians have said it's not equality to deny men equal parental, reproductive, property, and legal rights?
Not a fucking one. So yeah, Trump is a psychotic bigoted asshole, but he's done something none of them have done. For right or wrong he stood up to a woman and put her down in front of the world and got away with it.
Maybe he'll fuck the country up more. So what.
I don't give a fuck. I don't have a dog in this race anymore.
I'm just here to watch the freak show.
trpftw 8y ago
Ok so you respect him for bullying someone and getting away with it... Why are you being his defense lawyer and defending his temper tantrums (losing frame) and attacks on women just because he gets away with it?
If I got away with theft, does that mean you should admire me?
Says the guy who was personally insulting me. Did you not just say "hissy fit" 2 minutes ago? Now you're losing frame and denying that you attacked me? Delusional much?
Why do you think a misogynist who is a billionaire who has been treated wonderfully by women all his life..... is going to do ANYTHING TO HELP MEN?
He doesn't worry about divorce laws, he has an army of lawyers drawing prenups.
He doesn't care about feminist liars or SJW types, they don't affect him and his rich life. He's surrounded by feminists in beauty pagents. He gives them jobs.
Trump is not the guy standing up for men. He's a bully attacking women.
That's the same thing feminists do when they attack men.
He's not a guy who is campaigning on men's rights. So why would you assume this just because he's pissed that some hot lady on Fox News didn't shower him in praises and asked him tough questions?
He's doing this because he's a narcissist, not because he cares about men.
you don't elect dicks to office. We regretted voting for a lot of presidents who turned out to be dicks.
IN THIS SITUATION YOU ALREADY KNOW HE'S A DICK BEFORE THE ELECTIONS SO WHY DO YOU SUPPORT HIM?
Men will get a say when they stand up and stop being pussies. TRP is helping with that. Trump is making it worse for men by attacking Megyn Kelly, who STOOD UP TO SJW/Feminist types.
Trump is our enemy here in TRP. He's attacking our allies in Fox News. He's helping the feminists by being a misogynist villain.
Plenty. Carter never sent anyone to war. Clinton didn't send anyone to war. Obama didn't send anyone to war, he simply withdrew people in fact.
So clearly, you're a liberal.
Name one that did.
Definitely no one... Not Trump.
None. Not Trump.
Which is why you shouldn't elect him... wtf I can't believe I'm seeing THIS argument before my eyes. This is insanity. You're electing a psycho bigot because you're in the angry/bitter/depression phase of TRP.
Bully someone because they can? As narcissists and betas always do?
He stood up to the one woman who is TRP's best ally.
Yeah as narcissists and psychos tend to put people down and unfairly attack them.
.............................. I DON'T EVEN... I CAN'T EVEN ARGUE AGAINST THIS. YOU WIN! THERE IS NO WINNING AN ARGUMENT AGAINST YOU.
If I don't have a way to convince you and you're here to watch a freak show to ruin our country... how can I convince you? I cannot. I can never win. You're emotional and nuts.
But I thank you so much. It was enlightening to see you argue this. It was amazing to see the TRP mentality that leads to Trump worship. Thank you for being honest at least and not trying to hide your true agenda.
JeanValjean197o 8y ago
You are so invested in this.
The term "hissy fit" describes your actions and it's accurate.
Again, you know nothing about my education or political affiliation yet you made disparaging remarks about both. That's a personal attack. I shouldn't have to explain that to someone who is so intelligent and educated as your purport yourself to be.
I don't think Trump will do anything for men. I never said he would. But neither has any other politician for the last 50 years. I should know because I've been around for 45 of those years.
Maybe he is a bully attacking women. Women need to be attacked. They need to learn what it's like to experience real adversity. Women's "Kryptonite" is their pathological desire to be liked. Have you learned nothing from TRP? Women fear social ostracism more than anything. That's why they rail against slut shaming and fat shaming and any kind of female shaming because it terrifies them.
Have you not heard about the poor widdle girl who went to buy a dress and the clerk said that the dress didn't fit her properly and now it's all in social media that she was fat shamed?
All that clerk did was do her job and I can guarantee if that little girl showed up wearing an ill fitting dress her peers would have said far worse. And if they didn't say it then they would have thought it and that's worse in the long run.
The simple fact is that women get what they want because they know they can bully politicians to get what they want. It's been working for 50 years now and everyone is too afraid to say anything back.
Sometimes it takes a bully to stop a bully. Sure, Trump probably won't do shit for men. What he will do is set an example for other men that you can stand up to women and put them in their place.
You claim to be Red Pill but this statement reveals that you aren't. If you think this woman is an ally to men then you are sadly mistaken. Every woman is out for herself. They are genetically programmed to discriminate against men. That's what they do.
AWALT! Megyn Kelly is not a unicorn.
Megyn Kelly may have attacked some SJW's but that's because they are on the liberal side and not because she is for men.
If you really think Megyn Kelly is on men's side then good luck in your future marriages and divorce rapes.
trpftw 8y ago
Yeah, like almost every man too. We like to be liked.
Just as how Trump didn't like that Megyn Kelly didn't like him... so he ferociously attacked her for days trying to get the poor woman fired from her job for asking a question about WHAT HE SAID.
AWALT doesn't mean every single woman in the planet. And yes, there are unicorns. The idea that there isn't a single logical women in the world is complete insanity. We only tell people to watch out for "pretenders" and "fakes". We only tell people not to trust any woman. Not to sign a marriage license.
That doesn't mean there are women scientists, that doesn't mean there aren't female executives or woman grandmasters or women lawyers. Megyn Kelly is a logical person. She's no more emotional than you are with your support for Trump.
Megyn Kelly is not a bully. The bully here is narcissist Donald Trump. You need to stand up to Trump if you believe in justice and fairness.
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-- JeanValjean197o 2016
I CAN'T ARGUE AGAINST THIS. YOU WIN! THERE IS NO WINNING AN ARGUMENT AGAINST YOU.
Scott_WWS 8y ago
My (Russian) Wife's take on the candidates:
Hillary - bought and paid for, can't think for herself
McNothing (Dem) - bought and paid for, sounds like a Robotron (robot)
Sanders - cutting edge ideas, but lacks charisma
Rand Paul - boring no sex appeal
Trump - he is a winner. I don't like all of his views but he doesn't cry about his problems nor say what you want to hear so you'll vote for him. He's a fixer and and a winner and he wants to be President only for his ego. Actually, for his ego, he wants to be the best president since Washington. He's a winner and he will make a good president.
ArcadesRed 8y ago
"Actually, for his ego, he wants to be the best president since Washington."
This right here. People forget that to want to be president to begin with requires a huge ego. Trump simply isn't hiding his.
Mr_Donnerhuhn 8y ago
How Russian is your wife that she thinks Sanders ideas are "cutting edge"?
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Crimson_Rot 8y ago
The USSR is nothing like what social democratic Sanders wants.
ThumpNuts 8y ago
LOL. Spoken like a true Russian. My boss' Russian wife is a die-hard leftist and she likes Donald Trump's authoritarian strength. So much so that she would vote for him over the Marxist Bernie Sanders.
Woman logic. It speaks volumes.
Livnontheedge 8y ago
This says everything this sub is about in two sentences.
She just literally said: "He goes against everything I stand for and want for the world, but he seems so strong and sure. He's the man I want."
AWALT
ThumpNuts 8y ago
AMEN!
I wish people would get this through their fat heads.
Opisdf 8y ago
Sanders has cutting edge ideas? As a Russian she should know better than to embrace socialism.....
BlueBlus 8y ago
He's a Social Democrat not a socialist despite that he calls himself that
Scott_WWS 8y ago
Yes, this is a cutting edge idea:
Removing bribery from the political system. Sanders has called out (rightly) that the big banks finance and control many of our candidates. Hillary, Obama and many of the Republicans are bought and paid for bitches.
I don't think Trump will be anyone's bitch.
This is what makes him scary to the oligarchs.
NecroticFury 8y ago
socialism is the future of america.
Russia spends a lot of influence to make that possible.
SalaryCapGuy 8y ago
Very well said. I will be using this advice!
DJVendetta 8y ago
Really?! He hasn't got a fucking clue. If you've even got a modicum of respect for the guy then take yourself elsewhere.
Scott_WWS 8y ago
Who doesn't have a clue?
Trump knows how to get shit done.
EVERYONE in DC has NO INTEREST in getting things done. They only care about getting PAID.
At least Trump will ignore all the bribes and try to fix what's broke.
DJVendetta 8y ago
fix what's broke? he's a deluded, racist piece of shit.
TheMGhandi 8y ago
Donald Trump is a billionaire that received his fortune from daddy. He's always thought of himself as better than others, so holding frame isn't hard with that superiority complex.
The only lesson he's teaching us is rich people can do whatever the fuck they want, even run for president.
BlueBlus 8y ago
He didn't though? IIRC he invested and became very successful with help from his father.
Satirei 8y ago
Many rich people have run for president and been far less successful.
TheMGhandi 8y ago
I'm talking about the billionaire club...the rich of the rich.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 8y ago
you're talking out of your ass, thats about it
ThisisMalta 8y ago
...he backed out of the most recent debate because of her. Yea, totally Maintaining frame.
Maintaining frame would be actually having the capacity to debate with he other candidates and field questions from some Uppity spoiled bitch. He back down because he can't.
Upvote_To_The_Left 8y ago
You're not understand the game he is playing here, and how he manipulated the entire political media in the past few days.
He has nothing to gain from debating, he already proved he can school everyone there. He is costing Fox millions by not being there. And he is forcing the candidates to fight themselves. And if they complain about him it just makes him more popular, all while he's raising money for injured veterans (which is impossible to criticize pretty much)
He basically played a master game of chess and comes out winning any way Fox spins it. It's actually really fucking amazing to see. People will be studying this shit for years. The guy is a boss.
1v1mebruh 8y ago
this post couldve been stronger if you highlighted exactly what trump said/did (concisely) and pointed out how this allowed him to pass what was essentially a shit test (from what i'm gathering in this post).
honestly wasn't a fan of the whole giant introductory paragraph/section followed by a sudden switch to a rant about not apologizing to women for whatever reason. how does this have to do specifically with trump and his actions? what where the exact actions he did that "taught" us this "something very important"? come on man.
logicalthinker1 8y ago
I completely disagree here. Trump is just being a petulant child who didn't get his way.
If you follow the story from the beginning, he sweet talked her before he even ran in hopes to get on her good side and thus, get easy treatment when he would inevitably run into her for an interview or debate. She didn't play his game and asked him tough questions. He got pissy because he's a narcissist and is so used to people bowing down to him. Then, like a jealous woman would do, he started calling her names and attacking her as a person. He tried to leverage his ratings boost and get Fox News to leave her off the next debate. They didn't budge. And here we are.
Of fucking course he broke frame. He started lashing out like a spoiled child who didn't get their way. A little blond woman ruffled his feathers?! Does that sound alpha to you lol?
You guys are confusing egotism and childish self-entitlement with confidence and frame. An alpha response would be him not whining like a little bitch about how "unfairly he was treated by her."
ThumpNuts 8y ago
Yep. These people seem to be ignorant of what happened outside the debate. During the debate, he held frame and even displayed some amused mastery. AFTER the debate -- for MONTHS -- he complained and whined and hurled insults like a jilted lover with oneitis. It was pretty weak and lame.
Megyn Kelly held frame.
Facts are facts.
redpillcynic 8y ago
I never had a problem holding frame against women, ever. The bigger problem comes from white knights. When you have legions threatening you with fist fights... I'm going to the gym
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White knights are easy to deal with. Just accuse them of the truth:
Are you into her? Is this how you try to get in girls' panties? This white knight shit?
[ignore him, directed towards her] How long has this guy been trying to get up in your squirrel covers? Friendzoned, right?
Come on, bro, just ask her. You're into her right? I'm rooting for you. [directed to her again] C'mon, do you like him...that way? Look at him, he's adorable. You don't want to give it a shot?
Just roll with it. Even if they just met it works, just focus it on him thinking this will get him laid instead of the friendzoned aspect. She will absolutely blow him the fuck off and he will run away annnnnnnd 99 times out of 100 her pantaloons will be dripping.
ThumpNuts 8y ago
And that's where he lost frame... or broke frame. His constant berating of her -- even after she moved passed it -- is as bad as a beta with oneitis.
Megyn Kelly lives rent free in Donald Trump's head. Period.
If he shows up to the debate and "dick-slaps" her with a smile, then he is holding frame. He doesn't have to be nice, he just shouldn't be afraid.
But seriously... who thinks this is REALLY about Megyn Kelly??
Just my opinion. You don't have to agree with me. That's how I see it.
The_Red_Paw 8y ago
Whenever a woman starts with me I just say "I don't argue with women."
Then I stop arguing.
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MakeEmSayAyy 8y ago
They all argue in bad faith refusing to ever admit a point.
Shit my first girlfriend was actually amazing. She'd concede the point but say it made her feel bad. Pretty legit for a female.
tgeda 8y ago
Don't argue with women, leave the situation without backing down.
Upvote_To_The_Left 8y ago
I agree. This is ideal. but sometimes you cant. Sometimes you are forced into conflict.
spaceythrowaway 8y ago
I did something once during a party in my college years. I ended up in a political argument with some chick. No one liked it because it was seriously killing the vibe.
She said something very loudly to the effect of "what do you have to say about THAT"
I paused for a second, held up my hand, and let out a very loud and intentional burp
The girls there didn't like me one bit. But my bros were all high fiving each other.
Screw it what the girls think.
tgeda 8y ago
You will lose. Arguments are decided by the spectators, the spectators will be biased in favor of the 5 ft petite blonde and you will look like a bully.
There is no benefit to entering any form of conflict with a female.
Troll_Name 8y ago
Trump holds a 2:1 lead over Cruz, who holds a similar lead over everybody else. It doesn't matter how much Fox News wags their finger and bitches at him - they're going to do that anyway. Trump is actually campaigning in person while everyone else is taking potshots from TV studios. Republican establishment wants Trump to lose more than it wants Republicans to win - and that's why Trump is leading the Republican primaries. People are sick of the establishment.
Why? Because it has done pretty much nothing for these voters, after being handed Congress on a silver platter.
Upvote_To_The_Left 8y ago
You're missing the point. Its not about winning or losing. The point is you dont care about that. What you care about is holding frame.
You actually have to be completely ready and willing to be seen as a bully. You need to be OK with that. The point is that girls will want you to feel the social pressure of thinking your wrong and being an asshole. They will use that to their advantage.
cantletthatstand 8y ago
What?
He's fucking running for President, what the hell do you mean it isn't about winning or losing?
verify_account 8y ago
I don't disagree but Trump seems to be doing okay. He called a woman out for being on the rag and women still love him. If your frame is strong enough you can get away with anything.
Sementeries 8y ago
Some of these guys in here saying, "Trump loses frame" and other bullshit are trying to paint this perfect idea of what frame is. You can still scoff, insult (in a reasonable fashion), or even get mad.
Take a look at how every candidate is copying Trumps behavior. Before they go and shiv someone they say, "I like the guy, we get along," and then they give them the shiv.
Some of these guys here can say what they want, but he's in control when he's at these debates.
thefisherman1961 8y ago
Depends on who your spectators are. I get sadistic pleasure out of black knighting so if I'm in a social situation where a guy is arguing with a hot chick, I will take his side almost automatically, even if I disagree with them.
SpiderSwimMan 8y ago
I have never heard of Black Knighting but I assure you I shall be doing it from here on out. That's a wonderful post.
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WidmerBeer 8y ago
Ever been shit tested on the spot in front of a bunch of blue-pillers at a social function? Whichever decision you choose, it's akin to walking a tight-rope from skyscraper to skyscraper during a hurricane. You give in, you lose. You rebel, you risk losing worse.
"Nightwriter, go get us napkins."
While I'm boxed in and this girl just happens to sit down next to me while I just started eating. What she was really saying was "Hey, I want you to be my lapdog, go over there and fetch. I want to see if you'll be my bitch." But everyone who's bluepill will hear "I'm a women, and men should be a gentleman and feel lucky to help me out."
Luckily I weaseled out of that one with a joke. After the dinner it reminded me of the famous quote.
"Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals, except for the weasel." - H. J. Simpson
The_Red_Paw 8y ago
Had a woman ask me to fetch her drink from another room once. I did. Then I drank it. Then I walked back and handed her the empty cup and said "If you want the drink I'll piss in your mouth."
Later, I tied her up and ass fucked her.
thefisherman1961 8y ago
My response would be "Go get them yourself." If you're alpha enough, nobody is going to think less of you because you basically just pointed out how much of a cunt she was being.
redpillcynic 8y ago
Just to ease it in "I'm pathologically lazy"
omgimbackagain 8y ago
Trump has soundly beaten Kelly in this argument. She looks like a foolish shill for a corporation, while he is AMOGing their debate because he has better ideas and plans. He has higher value then all of FOX news, they need him not the other way round.
Cant believe people are even debating as to if trump holds frame or not, he is frame. Other guys complaining he is a narcissist? guess what you have to be to want to be president of the most powerful country in the world.
Modified_Hackware 8y ago
The debate will now just be "What was Trump doing..?".
I don't follow the above anti-trump stuff... So what if he is narcissistic? He still has more money, time, influence, power and sexual availability than everyone in this sub combined.
I think that upsets people more than they'd care to admit. Whilst he might not land into whatever straight definition of "A TRP MAN" he is certainly a Virtuoso of the 48 laws.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
I'll throw my weight behind this, 100% agree with this comment.
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cavtrpr 8y ago
Never hit a girl, leave. Agree to disagree walk away. If she strikes you call the cops. If she prevents you from leaving call the cops, charge kidnapping. If you use force on her you are screwed. Make the cops enforce their own laws. Besides cops have been around long enough are tired of the whole X (Jewish, Italian etc...) -Amirican princess Jersey shore type behavior.
If she gets some guy to do her dirty work. Leave if you can. If you cannot he has barred your way or he has struck you, make it an extremely painful experience. She won't care about some white knight beta orbiter, however word of that ass-whopping will get around. She won't try that trick again with you.
Troll_Name 8y ago
Make them? Good luck, if they don't feel like doing it to begin with.
catacamas 8y ago
Why? Doesn't this just send the message they can believe whatever bullshit they want?
I suppose it depends on context, e.g. are we talking about, say, a conversation with a group of friends over (for example) whether women 'deserve 50% of everything' in a divorce ... or are we talking about, say, an argument with one's spouse over something like, she's subtly bitching you 'didn't brush your daughter's hair right' or some-such BS?
If a woman starts mouthing off with opinions like 'women deserve 50% of everything', you bet I'm going to explain exactly why that's just legislated theft and immoral, and tell her that she should be ashamed of herself.
That's why so much barbarism is tolerated (e.g. modern divorce laws), because most people won't do this, they'll just 'be polite', or quietly leave the room without calling her on her BS beliefs. And since nobody ever calls them on their BS beliefs, they just grow bolder.
I suppose if you're talking about drunken girls in a bar who are looking for trouble, that's something else, it may be best to avoid such a situation, especially if they have their 'backup white knights' nearby.
tgeda 8y ago
Oh, if you are talking about politics its different, stand by the truth. I was talking about personal arguments
TheEssexian 8y ago
Trump might hold frame, but he also looks like an idiot while doing it.
He insults John McCain for having be a POW in a war Trump got out of fighting, and then refuses to apologize for it? That is not 'holding frame'. That is being a fucking asshole. And there IS a difference. And it's HUGE. OR as Trump would say: "EWG."
He's entitled.
The situation with Kelly doesn't show how he holds frame, it shows how he's a fuckign beta who only got where he is because he was born wealthy and THAT gave him power. He had an interview with Kelly, praised her for being a great moderator, said those who don't show up to debates lack courage, then two years later says he's not showing up to a debate if Kelly is there. It makes him look weak, like he can't handle her.
I see Trump as an example of how betas might kowtow to a strong personality, but I do not see him as a template of masculinity. He's what entitled pricks born into money turn into. He thinks he's a success because he's so great, but he's a success because he was born into money.
I don't see what is worthy of praise in his behaviour.
Now, down vote away.
D-White 8y ago
I just can't get over the fact that someone who is, supposedly, so bright and intelligent decided to mutilate their nose. Megyn Kelly's nose upsets me almost as bad as Trump's hair upsets SJW's...but then again, SJW's hair are purple, and my nose is natural and normal.
jizzonmypants 8y ago
I actually use that technique when i don't know what to say /act but instead of Donald Thrump i say to myself
''What would Chad do?''
TranceKing 8y ago
This is exactly why I love donald trump...I dont give a fuk what he says..what his policies are..because god knows whos telling the truth about that.. I just love how hes not politically correct,doesnt fold to media criticism...even tho every media outlet and millions of sjws hate him.. and he has his own money so he is less likely to be influenced.. Hes my favorite obviously..but the main goal is to have ANYONE but hilary or sanders win.
PabloEscoba 8y ago
Meagan - "For the record, your comments were well beyond Rosie O Donell"
Donald - "Yeah Im sure"
Agree and amply. Amused Mastery.
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Fact, the Don is best suited for president. I think Fox should dump that dumbass Kelley
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hesalop 8y ago
Can't believe I had to dig through here to find this
dat1dork 8y ago
I think I'm voting for trump now.
Whiskersgrower 8y ago
No wonder why 4chan loves him amirite?
RedPillHanSolo 8y ago
Makes me wish I lived in the USA with Trump as a president.
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max_peenor 8y ago
She knew she was fucked when the crowd wouldn't stop cheering the Rosie comment. You could see it on her face when they shouted over her.
gorillabazooka 8y ago
Looks like she actually liked that comment
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McLarenX 8y ago
Donald is an expert in handling beautiful women. He's been dating/married to supermodels and Hollywood starlets his entire life. That bitch is stupid for even attempting to stump the Trump. He's a no-bullshit businessman who takes respect very seriously, and won't tolerate dumb women making demands.
The Art of the Deal is up there with the 48 laws of power and No More Mr Nice Guy on red pill books I suggest to people. Anyone who doesn't take Trump seriously, I suggest you read a biography on him and study his accomplishments.
thefisherman1961 8y ago
Republicans are idiots if they elect him though, he will definitely lose to both Bernie and Hillary
Diarrhea_Van_Frank 8y ago
Lol I could beat Bernie and I'm a total dumbass. Hillary isn't going to win because she's more machine than man at this point. Trump is going to be president, whether or not it's what you (or I for that matter) want.
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landon042 8y ago
Exactly, with that amount of abundance mentality you would literally feel like god
TheThingsIThink 8y ago
it's from all his Fuck You money.
trpftw 8y ago
Which is exactly why Donald Trump shouldn't be taken as an example.
He's a narcissist billionaire. He can get away with all of this, you cannot.
He can say the most ridiculous things on TV and if he loses... oh boo hoo... back to my billion dollar conglomerate. So he doesn't care. Abundance mentality is a reality for him.
Can any other presidential candidate do that? NO. It's risky. If they lose, they're not going back to a billion dollar CEO job. They have a lot more to lose than Trump and that's why they can't go to the extremes that Trump can.
If you take it too extreme with women, you can get fucked over a lot worse than just not getting laid that night. Generally being self-confident is attractive. Not apologizing and being a man about your beliefs is attractive. Being a narcissistic asshole who fucks people over, while it may make you look like a bad boy, it can also lead to bad boy consequences like rape accusations.
People with power and money can go to a lot more extremes (which is why criminals have a lot of power because they can threaten violence etc.) and get away with it more often than your average TRPer.
macksdowntownsong 8y ago
TRP active trump hater found.
unpluggedoasis 8y ago
We live in a time where extremes are needed! You are on TRP you see the fucking mess that we are in culturally. Maybe we can't be as extreme but we absolutely can support someone who can potentially fix what is going on out there.
trpftw 8y ago
YES absolutely my friend. I do see the horrific nature of political correctness and SJW culture all over. A biased and disgusting media. A terrible weak president.
I see it all.
But that doesn't mean I'm going to vote for Trump, pretty much a spoiled narcissist with anger issues. Trump needs several psychiatrists and heavy prescriptions of xanax. He's not someone who is fit to be president. He's not presidential. He's an asshole who screws over people like a mafia boss.
Plenty of other Republicans can fix our problems without going to the extremes of saying it out loud and bombastically as Trump. Trust me, all those Republican candidates see the same problems Trump sees when you read their policies and their talks... but no one actually listens to them because they're too busy listening to Trump yell at people.
As much as I empathize and perfectly understand where you're coming from. I'm not going to allow Trump, a hitler-like candidate with a cult of personality to gain power in this country.
If extremist SJWs, feminists, PC culture, are the face of Hillary and Obama... The other extreme is the fascists like Trump. We don't need one extremist to counter another extremist. We just need someone smart enough to recognize our problems and then solve our problems and unite the country, not divide it further.
Like I said, I totally get where you're coming from. I know the problems you see and how Trump counters those problems. But he's not the only solution and he's going to create a whole host of his own problems due to his mental illness (NPD).
You would never date an NPD woman (tons of red flags, tons of lies, tons of danger)... so why would you elect an NPD man... Donald Trump?
NecroticFury 8y ago
In the end men are the only threat to you directly. If you have control over other men, you have nobody to oppose you.
You seem to think women commanding men in droves is important, when you can command armies.
trpftw 8y ago
Indeed. If you control men, judges, and lawyers, you can get away with a lot.
I'm not sure what you're saying here. None of those running are president.
Any politician is vulnerable and any man is vulnerable to the abuse of the law by women.
FemtoG 8y ago
It's unbelievable that all of his tactics in this campaign so far have come STRAIGHT out of Art of the Deal. He's just following his own Bible and everyone against him are still getting completely out-maneuvered.
nodoxsavefreespeech 8y ago
Downloading the audiobook right now.
FemtoG 8y ago
His Ice skating rink story is very illuminating on the issues of government
UntraceableRP 8y ago
Do you know a good place to download audio books?
redpillcynic 8y ago
The cough pirate cough bay
nodoxsavefreespeech 8y ago
You'll want to hit the torrents, man. Please utilize a VPN when doing so.
trpftw 8y ago
Basically, Trump is good at negotiating, saying "no", leaving the table (leaving the debate), throwing temper tantrums, and general narcissism and overvaluation of himself and his own deals/assets.
These tactics are just... effective.
Dealing with an unreasonable man is hard. That's what Trump becomes: an unreasonable emotional man.
Same reason why Iranians are getting a good deal because they were unreasonable and Obama was compromising.
The problem comes in that... just because being a narcissist who is unreasonable works at getting good deals... doesn't mean it's what you want to become as a man or a statesmen. It means you take lessons from Trump on how to negotiate... but it doesn't mean you take lessons from him on statesmanship, leadership, or attracting woman.
The guy is a narcissist billionaire, you may be in awe of what he gets away with... but trying to copy him won't get you anywhere except in business, housing, and car deals.
PlanB_pedofile 8y ago
obama is almost as weak of a commander in chief as Carter. Especially on the legislative level. Obama has a total of 8 vetoes since he took office? the guy signs into law everything that passes his desk.
Some of the best presidents have vetoes topping past 200. They controlled the bullshit that congress keeps passing, forcing the monkey in congress to collaborate better and come up with a real bill rather than a small margin victory bill.
Trump will be that president that will have the balls to veto a bogus bill. He'll veto spending bills and budget bills if they don't fit the goals set. This forces congressmen to actually work together if they want anything passed. Or really work together if they want to override the veto.
trpftw 8y ago
Trump doesn't have any balls. He's just unreasonable. Being unreasonable as president is dangerous. Hitler was unreasonable and also an excellent negotiator.
Trump dodged the draft, so don't tell me about balls.
Trump will be the type of corporate president who will make any business or economic deals that he thinks will make himself and his friends rich. He's not the type of person who will think about what's best for the country.
He'll be the type of person who's more busy trying to "teach journalists a lesson for criticizing him" than the one who tries to bring up important issues or create a new program or policy. One is narcissism the other is statesmanship.
There's a country called Turkey, that elected essentially a "Turkish Trump". A guy who is a strongman narcissist, who loves corporations and campaigned on economics and other "liberties" and then became the most fascistic ruler Turkey has ever seen. All he can talk about is himself, his own power, and how his critics and rivals will suffer. His name is Erdogan and before he was elected Turkey was not the #1 prison for journalists. Turkey was not locking up people for speech crimes before Erdogan. That's the type of person Trump is.
And trust me, if you saw Erdogan while he was campaigning, you'd think he was just like Trump, willing to break political correctness, willing to negotiate and act tough, and that he cared for the country etc.
The consequences were terrible because voters could not identify a disturbed narcissist before he was elected.
The evidence is there for Trump, it's up to you to stop him.
An_All-Beef_Engineer 8y ago
Well now, that isn't much is it?
trpftw 8y ago
Being good at negotiating again is not a reason to elect a leader especially when they show clear signs of NPD and selfishness.
You elect a leader because he is the ideal man. A man that can either inspire or lead people. A man that is trustworthy, not untrustworthy with signs of NPD and chronic lying. Not because he has one good skill and tons of flaws.
You wouldn't date a woman with NPD, so why would anyone want Trump as their leader?
An_All-Beef_Engineer 8y ago
Are you that naive? That's the ideal, not real life.
perplexasaurus 8y ago
This is absolute drivel.
Guys, don't emulate Donald Trump...unless of course you care about being one of the most successful businessmen in human history, a multiple NYT bestselling author, creator and star of an incredibly popular show for over a decade, date and marry nothing but absolute 10s, father 5 children, 3 of which(2 are still too young to call) have grown into mature, respectable, and accomplished individuals who have managed to evade even the faintest whiff of a scandal, despite their incredibly lavish upbringing and subjection to constant public scrutiny from the time they were born...oh yeah, and be the leading contender for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, essentially the singlemost powerful man in the world, in spite of being beset on all sides by enemies and antagonists, even those who are putatively on your side. All those, you know, other aspects of human life though? Forget about it. Whatever they are, you'll TOTALLY fail at them.
trpftw 8y ago
Start me with 100s of millions of dollars like Trump started as a youth and I'll be even more successful than Trump.
Yeah it's sooooooooo hard to get "absolute 10s" as a billionaire. SOOO HARD!
He's not President and will never be president because we don't elected tantrum-throwing narcissist selfish rich kids to the presidency. That's pretty sad that you think this man is worth admiring.
perplexasaurus 8y ago
He didn't start with 100s of millions of dollars shit for brains, his father didn't die until 1999, and he had 4 siblings.
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you understand how inheritance works.
Yeah alllllll billionaires fuck and marry dimepieces.
Are you new here? Fundamental tenet of TRP is frame/behavior trumps(heh) everything. Status, looks, wealth, etc. If you're bonafide beta all the money in the world isn't gonna help you.
FemtoG 8y ago
I feel like...our society today values, and even moreso REWARDS, the things that you mentioned in your post.
trpftw 8y ago
Yes... society rewards unreasonable people all the time. It rewards people for being spoiled brats. That doesn't mean you like them for being unreasonable.
Hot party girls being spoiled immature narcissists gets rewards ALL THE TIME for them. That's why they act that way.
Crazy billionaire narcissist CEOs get rewards all the time in business. That's why they act that way.
It's not a reason to like any of these types of characters... man or woman.
Certainly it may help Trump in the Republican party, but it will be the exact reason he loses in the general election.
Demonoid_ 8y ago
You're contradicting yourself
NecroticFury 8y ago
its either a net benefit to his life being this way, or its not.
trpftw 8y ago
No I am not.
How is being a narcissist which is giving you advantages... something to like about a narcissist?
That's not a contradiction.
You don't worship some asshole because they are successful.
Demonoid_ 8y ago
So Trump will be rewarded for being unreasonable. He may be disliked by some, but he will win.
Here's the contradiction. You're letting your dislike of Trump cloud the fact that he's extremely popular and has a good chance of winning.
trpftw 8y ago
But he shouldn't. Being unreasonable is not someone you want as president.
Being popular does not mean he should be popular or that you should like him.
Yes I dislike Trump. Yes I think a circlejerk of cocksuckers telling me "you should like trump because he's popular" is as retarded an argument as it gets.
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max_peenor 8y ago
Tell that to Alexander, Stalin, Julius Caesar or Mao, because you are wrong. We spend a lot of time here talking up Marcus Aurelius, because he was an assume dude, but he did not force the empires that these guys did. You have to be out of your gourd certain that you are absolutely right and have the fucking stones to do whatever it takes to pull off shit like that.
trpftw 8y ago
Did you really cite some of the worst genocidal leaders in history as examples of good leaders?
Some during a time where ruthlessness and uncivilized massacres were admired in a leader? (Caeser/Alexander)
Some during a time when they were considered the most evil men of the last century? (Mao, Stalin).
You're making a GREAT argument as to why NOT to support Trump. Thank you for making my point not to elect this fascist nutjob.
max_peenor 8y ago
What does genocidal have to do with anything? We were measuring success. I'm sorry if they make your feelings hurt.
Caesar was actually elected and well loved by everyone, including the senate. It was only when he started pushing our certain senators that a conspiracy formed. Alexander was exceptionally popular for someone that fuck near conquered the known world (from their perspective).
Evil? That's a moral judgment. The universe and actually history gives not one fuck about it. Do I think genocide is wonderful. Nope, just the audience. I'm not going to let that taint me view of how things are.
Are you seriously suggesting Trump would be a genocidal leader? This emotional appeal is how I'm supposed to assess the situation? This is a TRP value?
trpftw 8y ago
Hitler was successful... so you want to talk about how Trump is successful like Hitler?
Great... Does that mean Hitler should have been successful... NO.
Because he wasn't a narcissist asshole like Trump. He did care for the empire.
As a ruthless asshole who massacred innocents wherever he went.
No shit... We don't elect people based on success. We elect them based on their morality, judgment, mental sanity, trustworthiness, and ideas.
Why mention this? Human beings care about it.
Then why would you elect a narcissist into office?
You're confusing what reality is and what it should be.
You said it. And yes, he could be. Most genocidal leaders have narcissistic or paranoid personality disorders.
Certainly narcissism and being born into wealth is NOT a TRP value, so you can stop worshiping a man for having those.
max_peenor 8y ago
Stalin won. Clash of the titans. Technically, Mao won then too.
Oh, fuck yes he was. He even started the living god bullshit shortly before his iron-pointed impeachment. He cared for his empire. To suggest Trump doesn't want to see America succeed is grossly irresponsible and utter bullshit. The greatest glory for anyone that wants to be an emperor is to be the forge of a golden era. It is how you are remembered.
Oh, and he isn't a narcissist. Ego itself doesn't make you that.
Don't fight. You won't get massacred. They weren't innocent. And he was quite good to his subjects.
Ah, so that's where we went wrong. We balance subjective feelings relative to our own selfish view of the world and pretend that a few ideas make it all objective. The funny part is I almost never hear anyone argue about Trump's actual ideas. They just take whatever inflammatory one-liner the media has been screeching and spend all their time making emotional judgements about it.
I'm not saying morality isn't a factor. It is. But how can you trust any of those things if success hasn't been what got the person where they are? Otherwise, they are all blowing bullshit at you.
And we each die in turn and our ignitions blow with the dust in the wind. I wonder if you think you matter more than you really do.
Whoa. Narcissism indicates genocide? That's grossly irresponsible.
Oh, he COULD be. Ok, well let's just sling shit then. And no, they are not. Narcissism is a pathology. Watch that video again. Trump gives not a single shit about what she thinks about him. They would send a narcissist off a cliff.
And we end with class envy....
trpftw 8y ago
You're the one who is sucking the cock of trump and making emotional arguments for why people should support him.
You're supporting a narcissist and even citing Stalin, Mao as successful people that must be looked up to. You're retarded dude.
Nothing I say will ever convince you. You're emotionally obsessed and in love with Donald Trump.
Nothing Donald Trump ever says will ever make you hate him. Nothing.
He could go on TV and say "HEIL hitler" and you'll still suck his cock.
max_peenor 8y ago
Nice tantrum.
Strawman. I am not a Trump supporter and I have said as much here before. In fact, I think I made one of those declarations just today. That doesn't mean I can't observe his success. Partisan blinders are blinders. Fuck that shit.
I will admit I find the butthurt he inspires hilarious. He is right--PC has gone too fucking far in this country. I just don't think he can stop the decline.
He is not a narcissist. I gave you an objective reason why.
You are adding an emotional context to this. I don't look up to any of them, I just recognize their success objectively.
Projecting and stroking your strawman.
Honestly, no. This is TRP. We look at what people DO. Agitation is for women and the emotional.
Welp, the latter won't happen, but interesting injection of homoerotic thought to the debate. The former? I would probably laugh since it would mean anything other than to bunch your panties.
hamstercide 8y ago
Example vid? Also fix your writing, "a women like her", "he never conceived even an inch".
phrostbyt 8y ago
or maybe he shouldn't have been talking shit about that carly fiorino for no reason? what was the point of that? Trump is a freakshow
bobpuller 8y ago
Sometimes the only way to win is not to play.
NaughtyFred 8y ago
For those curious what the question was
"Your Twitter account has several disparaging comments about women’s looks. You once told a contestant on Celebrity Apprentice it would be a pretty picture to see her on her knees. Does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president, and how will you answer the charge from Hillary Clinton, who was likely to be the Democratic nominee, that you are part of the war on women?"
That last fragment tells you all you need to know about her.
Lord_Varys 8y ago
It's a legitimate question. Republican voters want to know how he will respond to liberal talking points. Megyn is a known conservative, and she clearly doesn't believe this stuff. It was a good question.
avian_buddha 8y ago
He answered that pretty damned well when the question came up. Clinton shut up about it almost immediately.
NaughtyFred 8y ago
What did he say? Because that "War on women" thing pisses me off
avian_buddha 8y ago
Basically he said that Bill Clinton is a rapist and HRC worked to shame and silence his rape victims so how in the world is she going to come after Trump about being a misogynist? He also said he has much more respect for women than HRC does. This was right around when Bill Clinton started campaigning for her. She hasn't mentioned it since then and has been polling worse.
trpftw 8y ago
Well yeah... Megyn Kelly asked the correct question. Donald trump is a misogynist. It's not something anyone here can deny, even if they praise him for "not apologizing" or "saying crazy things on live tv."
Donald Trump also deleted a tweet (lost frame) when he said "Hillary clinton couldn't satisfy her husband... how can she satisfy the country?"
He also kept making bad jokes about how he would "date his daughter"... several times... he has no self-reflection. He is absolutely disturbed with narcissistic personality disorder.
One of the very disorders and huge red-flags that we see in women... that we try to filter out here in TRP when advising people on dating.
You wouldn't date an NPD woman... so why do some TRPers love NPD Trump... because well, we can't really prevent NPD men from subscribing to TRP.
Trump is a narcissist sex-obsessed beta pervert who will likely fade away and TRP will pretend they didn't know him, after some sex scandal gets revealed in the future.
imthemanyesiam 8y ago
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-a-champion-of-women-his-female-employees-think-so/2015/11/23/7eafac80-88da-11e5-9a07-453018f9a0ec_story.html
http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/17/attorney-trump-companies-employ-more-female-execs-than-male-video/
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/donald-trump-former-female-employees/2015/11/24/id/703482/
http://conservativetribune.com/female-trump-employees-truth/
Yea you're a real tough guy Jeb
All-DayErrDay 8y ago
Jesus you are so wrong that it hurts. You sound like a major cuck.
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Diarrhea_Van_Frank 8y ago
So? Has that ever been an actual, tangible problem for someone? Being a misogynist is practically a requirement for success nowadays.
trpftw 8y ago
wut...
What are you talking about?
How is being a misogynist a good thing...
It's like being exactly like those misandrist feminists. It's the ONE THING WE HATE IN TRP.
IF you hate women and are a misogynist, then maybe you're still in the "anger phase".
Iceman3514 8y ago
IF kelly wasnt moderating, there is no way he would avoid the debate. He is in her frame - he compromised his mission because of her. period
lost_lurker 8y ago
Not necessarily, it could be a calculated ploy to get out of a debate on which he only has something to lose while gaining anti establishment points for giving a big fuck you to Fox news. Sometimes walking away isn't a loss of frame.
EvrythingISayIsRight 8y ago
A lot of the past debates have had personal attacks against Trump, so he is fighting an uphil battle. I can see why he wouldn't want to play in a game where the other players are trying specifically to shut him down
Iceman3514 8y ago
I'll remember that the next time things aren't going my way when playing Monopoly with my friends.
I'll get up and go start constructing my own game in the corner. hopefully my friends will join me instead of buying into that evil entity called Mattel.
UniversalFapture 8y ago
I had this issue today in ROTC. Some people were joking on a girl, but when I made my comment I took heat for it. She's such a bitch. I had so much to say but all that bullshit that would come with it just didn't seem worth it. I did give a weak comeback and was told to shut the hell up. She isn't much older than me if at all. But it's whatever. I felt like I didn't do enough. But kicking her ass in that moment would of turned all the olds against me and who knows what would of happened. It's going to be a long year.
You just can't win.
Upvote_To_The_Left 8y ago
here's the thing. People respect you for standing up for yourself. So even if you retaliate full force and take heat for it from the girl and some other dudes (fucking blue pill white knights) stand your ground and take it. I guarantee people will remember you as "that guy who didnt fucking back an inch" instead of "that guy who got told to STFU and did"
UniversalFapture 8y ago
Holy shit that the same thing my mother told me
UniversalFapture 8y ago
Oh wow . I never really thought of it like that.
It's a good thing I usually clap back then huh. I'll keep this in mind next time if she bothers me again.
steveblahhh 8y ago
If you act like this in every, you run the risk of becoming known as the uncompromising, abrasive douche. Trump is in an absolute position of power. If you're in a position like that, yes you can pull stunts like that. Even get co-dependent women w/ daddy issues w/ it.
But for the rest of of the world, I think using those tactics whenever confronted/ challenged w/ an opposing view (esp when you're wrong), is kind of ill-advised.
edwardhwhite 8y ago
seems butt hurt to me. first time for him. think it is a blunder unless Fox kisses his ass.
BowlOfCandy 8y ago
It's not that he's butthurt, and it's especially not that he is intimidated/can't handle Megyn Kelly.
It's simply not an endeavor that he can benefit from, as all it serves to do is benefit Fox news. It's a calculated decision, the risk to reward is not there.
Stefan Molyneux - Donald Trump Not Participating In Fox News Debate
reserved1012 8y ago
He has nothing to gain and everything to lose by showing up he is just using this as a convenient excuse to not show up.
FemtoG 8y ago
It's a blunder if the Fox debate holds up in its ratings and Trump's fundraiser ends up being a massive failure.
It's fatal if the debate leads to Cruz surge
But no. Increasingly nervous man...
reserved1012 8y ago
There's no way it will fail the man is literally filling stadiums in obscure towns
griph00k 8y ago
It's basically down to Trump v. Cruz at this point. After their back and forth in the last debate, Trump realizes that he cant simply bully and shame Cruz (former attorney that has argued in front of the supreme court) the same way he can belittle that bitch Bush who will just take it, and isn't used to thinking on his feet because he is a career politician with no real skills) If Cruz is able to get in a good sound bites against Trump, Trump's whole image is ruined
mrnobu 8y ago
Hahaha god the posts on this thread are really fucking stupid sometimes but WOW. This is literally embarassing. I am embarassed to have subscribed to The Red Pill. Morpheus, is it too late?!?
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aditas 8y ago
What's embarassing is that some believe the choice of president makes a difference.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 8y ago
thats not embarrassing, thats laughable
EvrythingISayIsRight 8y ago
Durr, its almost as if world leaders need to have some strong alpha traits instead of some apologetic beta traits. Whats so hard to understand about that?
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EvrythingISayIsRight 8y ago
lol what? You're welcome to provide examples. I'll wait.
Hes leading the polls for a reason. People don't want to vote for a pussy president who caves to whiners and apologizes for everything he says. Nothing says stong like being pushed around and being forced to apologize.
katanin 8y ago
This was a terrific post. Does anyone have a link to this interview yet? Definitely interested in watching it.
Zachar1a 8y ago
Nah, Donald Trump is a textbook narcissist, and in this case he is resorting to the most common reaction for narcissists when their delicate ego is bruised: the silent treatment. That is really all this is. He is giving Megyn Kelly the silent treatment. Now imagine having to deal with this kind of behavior from a President for the next four years.
atradervish 8y ago
Why would he attend a debate when he has nothing to gain? He is already winning. For the business man that Donald trump is, he sees this as a bad deal. Only one side would gain from him attending.
Going on that debate would be an absolute trap. Why should he let FOX gain millions in ad revenue while he gets disrespected on live TV by Kelly.
Call him what you want, but his move was the smart move.
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logicalthinker1 8y ago
It's really pathetic that a little blond can get to him so easily.
Ditario 8y ago
Isn't that TRP in a nutshell?
edit - Going Radio Silent?
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ThorCoop 8y ago
Agreed, he is scared. How can you admire this cowardly move?
Zachar1a 8y ago
It is scared and angry and a little paranoid all at once. The mind of a narcissist.
Tharberg 8y ago
Do you have a link for video?
reecewagner 8y ago
He is a misogynist. Why is she a cunt for calling a spade a spade?
MakeEmSayAyy 8y ago
we dont mind people logically quesitoning shit, but this is just a shallow shaming tactic.
he is a misogynist (LOL) for treating women like he treats men? fuck off with your dumb shit. you're a fucking idiot who believes everything he's told. you're a sheep.
rtf111 8y ago
Anyone who seriously uses the word misogynist is a moron.
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eddiae 8y ago
how is megyn kelly a typical hot blonde ? she's got a fucking steroid abusing giant captain america's chin and jaw, she could knock people out cold swinging that thing
atradervish 8y ago
LMAO your comments made me almost spit out my drink. Maybe she's attractive for her age??
EDIT: Just looked her up. She's 45.
TallAndFrat 8y ago
Same, I'm a republican, FOX fan, but I've never thought she was attractive! Honestly, reddit tends to overrate women a lot. if you go and look at any pic on reddit of a bitch, you're gonna see an average looking broad get called a goddess. Honestly, I believe it's a generational gap thing because as a millennial (18-25 age group), I've noticed that we tend to go after the more attractive-top end women so to speak. What's a 9 to the common man is a 7 to us... Do people ignore the face and genetics all together now?
unpluggedoasis 8y ago
Also a millenial here. When most women are fat slobs even a slightly attractive one looks like a Goddess.
TallAndFrat 8y ago
Hell naw man, keep those standards up and represent the 2000s!
fistbang 8y ago
Donald Trump is a fucking Boss
Hamadalmanna3i 8y ago
Yeah that's a good lesson. He's still a tool
aherne18 8y ago
She looks like an (English) American street prostitute. I find nothing attractive about her (pretty average), there are definitely millions of better looking women than her in US along... Maybe a 6/10 at most!
To the point, she's just a prostitute to Fox News neo-CO(HE)N agenda, barking where her masters command her to and earning rewards for that. Trump is the "Major Glory" figure operated by same puppet masters: he only exists to support the idea Americans are "strong" and live in a "democracy".
Trump reminds me of kosherized "far-right" parties in European parliments... He only exists to stir up discontent to a pointless direction!
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DatAEK971 8y ago
Fox News. Blown. The. Fuck. Out.
youcantstumptheTrump
textualintercourse 8y ago
I can't wait for the breaking headline, "Donald Trump caught fucking Megyn Kelly behind FoxNews set."
Donald, "She was the one asking or it!"
BradPill 8y ago
"She fucking RAPED me, an old innocent man!"
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
Not only don't back down... redouble your efforts and go in twice as hard. The tactic is to make the other side back down, rather than "winning" in any logical sense. Who cares who is right or wrong... women certainly don't. You gotta beat them down with the ferocity of your argument, strength of frame, and overall personal power.
As an aside, this is how women argue... as soon as they are losing, they change the subject, even resorting to insults and abuse rather than agreeing they fucked up. Do the same, but do it better.
Upvote_To_The_Left 8y ago
you and me are def on the same page. :)
dont go looking for conflict. But when conflict finds you, take it head on. No matter if you're right or wrong. Way too many guys today are so conflict avers its pathetic.
ChanThunderwang 8y ago
Bad advice!
If you are a billionaire, you can do all those "I do not give a fuck what anybody thinks"-tricks. It is authentic. But if you are a burger flipper, this is your ticket to be homeless without any friends within months.
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nice.
so basically everything my mom told me to do the opposite..
Livnontheedge 8y ago
Yes. This is the Red Pill after all.
MorePancakes 8y ago
Mfw your entire post was an elaborate overly complicated way of saying "You can't stump the Trump"
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FUCK YEAH I HOPE TRUMP BECOMES PRESIDENT
ThumpNuts 8y ago
If we were voting for PERSONALITIES, then I would agree with you.
I don't think it's very RED PILL to be part of the "cult of personality"... do you?
An_All-Beef_Engineer 8y ago
From your high school elections you should know better.
ThumpNuts 8y ago
??
My high school elections taught me people vote for popularity. I'm not in high school anymore. I'm not sure what your point is...
IF you're saying most people vote for personalities in an election, THEN I agree with you.
IF you're saying I should vote for personalities in this presidential election, THEN I disagree with you.
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Toxicbutt 8y ago
If you have to character assassinate someone to bring them down to your level your a beta like Trump. Now downvote me neolibreals
venicerocco 8y ago
"You can be 100% wrong and still stick to your beliefs"
Yeah maybe if you're trying to get laid but in any other situation, if you have an ounce of self respect you'll accept you were wrong gracefully and move on.
Overall that's a pathetic mindset to hold.
tragicwasp 8y ago
He also shows us the direction the country shouldn't go, which is with him as leader.
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QE-Infinity 8y ago
I like to think of it as a cute thing if girls have their own opinion, right or not. When I tell them that they usually become submissive. If they become more angry then I just laugh at them and make aaaahhww sounds while petting them on the head if the situation allows it.
EscortVoyeurAdmin 8y ago
There is nothing cool about Donald Trump bro. He is scared of having another debate and he is scared that he won't survive another interrogation by Megan Kelly. All Trump is is rich. There are way more alpha billionaires than him.
J_AsapGem 8y ago
Fucking bitch got offended when the crowd favored trump
chances_are_ur_a_fag 8y ago
what a boss. granted he's pretty tactless, but still, to hold your composure like that and spin it off thats some artistry right there
CuntyMcFagNuts69 8y ago
Those comments are cancer. How was I so liberal at one point in my life
unpluggedoasis 8y ago
Same. But once you go the other way it is IMPOSSIBLE to go back to being Liberal.
MakeEmSayAyy 8y ago
I am also truly embarrassed
chatchan 8y ago
Not a Trump supporter in the least but I had to upvote for "what would Donald Trump do?"
TRPJ 8y ago
"what would Donald Trump do?" is my new favorite quote from TRP
Dubsland12 8y ago
This tactic works with men or women.
Luckyluke23 8y ago
this is the greatest point about your post man, a lot of people forget that.
I did to, thanks for posting it
bowie747 8y ago
WWDTD
The warcry of a generation of young men.
RavelsBolero 8y ago
You didn't even bother to link to the video which embodies this concept best of all you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y9_LJj7A68
aa223 8y ago
I may not like Trump's politics and his illegal immigration platform but I will admit that he knows how to sell himself and the fact that we love him because he doesn't give a fuck does show how far we have to advance as a society. He is a good businessman and while he isn't perfect he knows how to handle himself.
nyyankees1237 8y ago
Agree. He can definitely handle himself and knows how to wield power (for better or for worse).
Like you though, I can't stand his political views. I know being liberal on this sub welcomes a brigade of downvotes but I simply cannot bring myself to vote for anyone running out of the GOP.
aa223 8y ago
I'm an ancap so I hate everybody except fellow ancaps. But even I can admit when someone knows how to handle their shit.
johnnight 8y ago
It's as if he is lacking the fear instinct. Have you seen him ever show concern about the consequences of any particular situation or what other people could do to him? Most politicians have this little calculator inside their heads: how much support can I gain/lose if I say thing X. And you can see it on their faces, when they are interrogated by journalists.
I guess a couple of billion dollars and decades of success does this to a man. It trains your behavior.
You are absolutely right here. Being truthful/false is important only in a technical context (science, academics). This here is a social context, where being and looking certain/uncertain is more important for the results.
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Diarrhea_Van_Frank 8y ago
Well thanks for the compelling counterargument, but I think I'm just going to tag you as "little bitch" and be on my way.
WeblWabl 8y ago
Sticking to your guns, being hard headed, and especially treating men and women differently is not always the best interest of america, I hate SJW's as much as the next guy but If you don't appease your country and just say 'me, me, me' all the time then you have no place in modern politics.
Starcruiser28 8y ago
you are missing the point that Men and Women are different.
WeblWabl 8y ago
Regardless.. he lost the Iowa caucus by not debating. He's a pussy.
Scott_WWS 8y ago
nice narrative, a link would have been useful...