http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/26183/
You read that right. A group of students, accusing others of rape, are suing the school for using due process.
Be smart, just because you can have sex with someone doesn't mean you should. Society is headed down a path that is very dangerous for men. There are women out there who will not hesitate to ruin your life. Plenty of women have zero guilt in false accusations, sending guys after you, etc. Sexual gratification is not worth that, especially given that you can find plenty of other women who aren't crazy. Your red pill knowledge should allow you to get with many women who won't do this. Use your knowledge for a better life, not random sex with anyone.
redfallhammer 8y ago
From the article: The plaintiffs are seeking damages including reimbursement and pre-payment for all of their tuition and related expenses incurred as a consequence of the sexual assaults
That's their ultimate goal, free education at the expense of (usually) gifted athletes.
rebuildingMyself 8y ago
Guess that explains the targeting of fraternities for false rape accusations.
TheeRyanGrey 8y ago
If you read into it they said they were showing signs of nonconsenual like vomiting and being overly drunk.
2.life is fucking dangerous. How about you learn to control yourself and be safe. Learn some personal responsibility
I wouldn't go to a white biker bar and get super fucked up alone. Good chance I get worked over
BenOfMahogany 8y ago
Reminds me of when our dorm went into lockdown because a woman had been "sexually assaulted". Turns out she just wanted to get her tuition removed so she made up a story to make the school seem liable for sexual damages against her
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TitsAndWhiskey 8y ago
It's sad. I don't have any kind of emotional reaction whatsoever any more when a woman says she was raped or that her ex was abusive. Yeah, yeah... He raped you by jerking off to porn once and abused you by not paying all your bills even though you pouted and stomped your widdle footsie. I get it. Go away.
thewrightstuff88 8y ago
Imagine if it gets to the point where a guy with low SMV simply looks the wrong way at a girl and then she demands her tuition back...fuck man...hopefully not
mugatucrazypills 8y ago
Feminists and white knights like to play a game that feeds from the from the instinct of "altruistic cruelty" in humans, which involves fantasizing about what vengance they'd like to bring on the other/rapist/evilone. I've heard the most supposedly liberal ladies in the world talk about how they'd like to build a rape machine to rape the rapists,rip their skin off, heal and repeat, or have government do tortures that would make the aztecs blush on "the rapist" when he is found.
When there just aren't that many rapes around, it becomes very frustrating for them because they can never see the fantasy fufilled, even vicariously. After time, fufilling the rapist vengence fantasy becomes an obssession in the feminist mind. Fufilling it with some man/patsy becomes more important than finding a real rapist, truth, etc.
rebuildingMyself 8y ago
What she really means is have men do those things to the rapists
Cronyx 8y ago
Upvote for "altruistic cruelty". That's a fucking amazing (terrifying) concept.
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When The Devil whispers into your ear, "See what that fucker did to you! Are you going to let that shit stand?"
TheSelfGoverned 8y ago
The war on terrorism is another great example, or the war on drugs.
somercet 8y ago
The hormone oxytocin has been implicated in relationship and trust bonding, and also in violence. Perhaps, as it should be?
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QQ_L2P 8y ago
Aesop had a fable about this; "The boy who cried wolf".
Old stories proving their worth over and over.
Miheegz 8y ago
Pshh if only all that it took was 2 false accusations. It seems to me like even though most people are becoming suspicous of rape claims. No one would dare question it in public or on air aka anywhere it matters. The media still treats a rape accusation as being found guilty by a jury of your peers.
RunawayGrain 8y ago
Look at what reprehensible creatures populate the media. Nancy Grace comes to mind. Read a few bits about her here: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-632636
Notice that as a lawyer she was tagged by other lawyers as 'fast and loose' with ethics. She was also an ardent supporter of the Duke Lacrosse prosecution, and wouldn't even appear on her own show to announce that they had disbarred the prosecutor and announced the verdict. In short, she's not ethical at all, and in all probability has caused two deaths. The reason she's on TV is because her screechy personality, arrogance, and total disregard for due process makes for entertainment for some. Some people watch because they agree with her, some watch because they want to see what outrageous shit she will do next. The point is, though, that people watch her show.
Just remember, the media wants ratings so they can sell advertising. Journalistic integrity died a long time ago.
GermanScrewdriver 8y ago
That's something I was wondering about, why don't the "rape-victims" go straight to the police? Does the university hold any legal power?
If someone stole my car on campus and even if I was absolutely sure it was done by another student, I wouldn't go to the dean - I'd call the police.
somercet 8y ago
I know someone who left to work at the University of Chicago. He was told, if you have any problems, call the UC police; they'll fix it. So, yay for private police forces...?
Miheegz 8y ago
Because the police aren't under Title IX and thus will actually investigate the claim. While if you go to the university they will just expel the accused and you will achieve star status on campus. Notice how it is never the 10/10 fox who got raped but the purple haired slightly overweight chick. Who has never recieved this much attention in her life.
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CaptainSweno 8y ago
No they didn't. The people who made the first couple of moves won, and the rest (legitimate rapees) are taking the hit for it. Don't put all women in a little box.
ether_reddit 8y ago
Are you saying that while there may have been some false accusations a while back, all accusations now are forthright and genuine?
CaptainSweno 8y ago
...no. In no way am I saying that. I'm saying his implication at the end is that the women who are actually getting raped that no one believes because of feminists deserve it because the evil feminists "cried wolf" in the past. They are different people.
anangryterrorist 8y ago
The feminists deserve the fucked up world they created. The victims don't deserve their suffering.
CaptainSweno 8y ago
Okay, but my point was all the people who actually fucked the world up (assuming they did) are past that point in their lives and already won their court cases or whatever. The people who the world is fucked for and the people who fucked the world are different people. It's a simple concept.
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EnlightenedNarwhal 8y ago
Rape is extremely bad. False rape accusations are bad as well. I'm not sure why you went there.
gebrial 8y ago
It's not that much physically worse than getting your ass kicked but is psychological murder. The same result can occur from assault or even a mugging, but the occurrence is much higher from rape.
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gebrial 8y ago
I agree with your sentiment but your question is rather empty. We wouldn't need to have experienced being murdered to know that murder is wrong
mugatucrazypills 8y ago
Have you ever been murdered ?
I'm not afraid to die. I've done that already.
Ask a married man.
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recon_johnny 8y ago
Then substitute badly beaten for murder.
You knew the context, you understood the point. You chose to ignore it.
Duke_LFG 8y ago
Lol I bet this gets thrown out of court, or both parties litigate until funds run out. This is going to be a lose lose situation.
Just a prediction with no data other than we are sick of this bullshit which has been proven to be bullshit over, and over.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
One trillion dollars says that the University settles.
Make that ten trillion.
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courts take due process seriously. 100% this gets thrown out.
ObservantOmega 8y ago
It gets better, the frivolous litigation rules may bite the lawyers of the students in the ass. If a judge calls a litigation "frivolous" it's like telling the world that the lawyer filling it is a moron. And then there are the financial sanctions.
afkb39sdfb 8y ago
If the plaintiff loses their suit, they have to pay all the defendants legal costs. I can imagine the schools have large retainers with expensive law firms, $500-$1000/hour expensive law firms. If these dumb cunts lose against the school they're paying the school 5 figures back in legal costs for sure.
ObservantOmega 8y ago
Well, that's the case if they only loose the case. Having your case thrown out as frivolous is much, much, worse.
If you are a lawyer then you and your firm may get "sanctioned" by the court for knowingly filing a frivolous suit. Most common types of sanctions are financial, your client pays the legal cost and then you as the law firm have to pay a fine. Not good.
But there are other cases of sanctions, if you are extra stupid or try something illegal, you might get cited before a professional conduct committee. And that can end in professional punishment up to being permanently disbarred, probably not in this case but you never know.
afkb39sdfb 8y ago
That's good to know, more than I originally knew.
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gotta love that lawyers have to put their reputations at stake if they want to take a case. it was hilarious when the lawyer of the "victim" in the patrick kane case quit because he didn't believe her.
Hydris 8y ago
He probably never believed/knew she was full of shit. He just knew once that shit unfolded and didn't work in their favor his goose was cooked and he bailed as soon as possible. Especially when she was anonymous until that fuck up and gave her identity away. Building was on fire, he was just getting out while he still could with whatever small amount of dignity he could save.
sir_wankalot_here 8y ago
Have you ever actually talked to any lawyers on a social basis ?
Obviously not. A lawyer is paid to argue your case, and his reputation among other lawyers is based on whether or not he wins the case.
Example:
You are appended by the cops while covered in blood, there are 3 dead bodies with a knife in them with your fingerprints on it. Fortunately you watched the video why you should not talk to the cops and refuse to make any statements you immediately contact your crackerjack lawyer.
By the evidence it appears you are guilty of murder.
But your lawyer comes up with an explanation of why your fingerprints are on the knife and you are covered with the victims blood. You found the victims while they where still alive, you attempted to perform first aide on them and your fingerprints are on the knife because you where attempting to remove the knife to stop the flow of blood.
Your crackerjack lawyer is very convincingz the jury buys his story. You are declared a hero.
Did you actually commit the murders ? From a legal perspective irrelevant. Your lawyer would be viewed as a top notch lawyer and his reputation would increase because he won an impossible case.
I was having drinks with a crackerjack lawyer, he managed to get one of his clients off for murder despite there being a witness and other evidence. His case was won by discrediting the witness. He was laughing about how he laid a trap and made the witness look like a liar.
I asked him if he thought his client committed the murder. He admitted the evidence appeared to indicate it. But he then said a court of law decided his client was innocent.
just_noob_things 8y ago
i love how he won't even venture a direct opinion - 'the evidence appears to indicate it'
recon_johnny 8y ago
Haven't heard 'crackerjack' in awhile.
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no one's getting sued in a murder case
sir_wankalot_here 8y ago
OJ Simpson was found innocent of murder in a court of law. The victim's family then sued OJ Simpson for the loss caused by him murdering the victim. OJ lost the case and had to pay $XX million of damages.
Law decisions are based on something called precident, which means how similar cases in the past where decided.
Notice how I cited a previous case to backup my point, while all you can say is
In a court of law, you would have lost against me. That is why when talking to a lawyer ask him his strategy, after that ask him what cases he has to back himself up. If he does not have any precident he is a shit lawyer.
That is how the law works, elites and their bull dogs (lawyers) laugh at chumps like you who think the law is about morality.
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not__banksy 8y ago
Criminal law convictions require there be no reasonable doubt to exist. Civil cases are not held to that standard. Your example doesn't mean anything.
sir_wankalot_here 8y ago
You are correct about
So using the same precident with the rape case and the university. The "rape victim" case does not need to be held to as high of a standard.
Yes it does ???? Using your own argument, just like OJ Simpson the university is liable. The cases are exactly the same, except one is murder, one is rape.
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that's not all i said and i sited a case. your example had absolutely nothing to do with the OP. your example had nothing to do with a frivolous lawsuit. you basically just ranted, then tried to use circular logic to make yourself look good, which didn't work.
sir_wankalot_here 8y ago
How many cases have you read ? How many times have you been sued or questioned by the cops ?
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It's sickening how loosely femenist use the term rape. Feminazis are fucking up
nuesuh 8y ago
The average student has a 0,011 % chance of being raped on campus. Add the legal suit for giving the accused the benefit of the doubt..
I'd just expel the rape accusers.
The_Red_Paw 8y ago
Can't we turn this kind of thing around?
What is to stop me from accusing Gloria Allred of assault 30 years ago? To call Cosby's lawyer and say I was a hot, young, male prostitute on the streets of LA when she pulled up and asked if I'd do sex stuff with her. At the hotel, she kicked me square in the nuts, didn't pay me, told me if I made an issue she'd have me killed and left?
Maybe it happened. Maybe it didn't. She's a wealthy, powerful attorney and I've been too scared for my life to bring it up.
Now imagine if ten of us did it.
Blackierobinsin 8y ago
Don't believe an American woman when she talks
TheMGhandi 8y ago
Why is this even an issue? If you want friends, talk to guys. If you want sex, do it 10km away from home. Use a burner and a fake name. It's best to just pay for it if you're not in the zone to close.
Tldr; quit fear mongering.
TheRabbitTunnel 8y ago
Or, instead of wasting tons of money on sex, and going through a bunch of crap to hide your identity, you could just get with sane women.
TheMGhandi 8y ago
Students are better looking, and cheaper escorts. The money spent on courting or in court far outweigh legal prostitution
Hiding your identity takes seconds. Mine is hidden here and it took almost no effort.
Edit: and if this shiny mewtwo exists, it will have a high amount of narcissism in knowing that it is incredibly rare. Which brings us to "what happens when a narcissist gets angry for 400 Alex!" Cops, bs and the works. The only non narcissistic sane woman out there is equivalent to finding two shiny mewtwos in back to back resets. Damn near impossible.
PIGamer86 8y ago
Something something Peyton Manning.
Dr_Yttrium 8y ago
This isn't the same school. This is the University of TN at Chattanooga, not Knoxville. I go to school here as well, which makes it seem all the more crazy.
Assassin1476 8y ago
At this rate, men are going to be having zero guilt in choking bitches when the walking dead shit happens and women can't use the government, social justice warriors or internet for help when that shit no longer exist.
CriticalThink 8y ago
I don't think this should be seen as a bad thing. The more of this frivolous crap brought into the public eye through the courts, the better. The only reason things have gotten so bad is because the average person isn't aware of it.
Apexk9 8y ago
Wait till they piss off the wrong person then they will learn.
DrunkenSpacePirate 8y ago
Sounds like the accusers turned anti-due process plaintiffs are trying retardedly to hide some fraud. Why else would they try to suppress an investigation into their claims? Little feminine uber totalitarian Kim Jung Uns and Ahmadinejads every one of them.
mugatucrazypills 8y ago
Real MGTOW would be hardcore Onanism.
Become the worlds leading sex-robot engineer. Free the slaves (to pussy)!
WarmApfelPi 8y ago
unfortunately, sex robots would further drive men into slavery. the incentive to free themselves from this weakness man is born with would disappear. the only way to be free is to overcome the desire for sex, and that takes discipline.
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Don't get married is pretty soon to be don't go to college (if it's not already there).
RedBigMan 8y ago
You can make a ton more picking up trades as opposed to going to college and you get paid as an apprentice rather than paying some dumb cunt to harass all the males around them (aka. Feminist professors).
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^^ My post just above yours that's exactly what I'm doing. I even said I'm not sure if I'll take online college classes, because it's still feeding the feminist fucks in college their paychecks. Typically in a free market people vote with their wallets. Shit idea? Go ahead, take it to market, you end up making no money though. Problem with colleges is they sort of have society in their grips, they know lots of people want higher education for more money. Luckily the market is flooded with useless BA's doing high-school level work at mcdonalds and walmart, soon people will see they are paying tens of thousands to work a job they could have gotten without going into debt.
Trade school is the future for men. The money might not be white collar money, but it will be enough to enter the middle class. You will be working an actual job with technical skills. You will not be sitting inside idly all day as a cash register making minimum wage. Construction workers, HVAC techs, plumbers, all these guys are the best ones to talk to when chatting it up. Those people that work at starbucks or mall stores, they are boring as fuck and dull to talk to.
tallwheel 8y ago
Yeah. People in the manosphere are saying it already. It's a minefield. Don't go unless there is a very specific degree you need, and if you do be extremely careful and don't date or fuck women on campus.
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It's already there. I'm not going to college here because of how hostile of an environment it is to me. Going to local Tech school, costs way less and I can work up to an Associates in 2-4 years time WHILE working and earning money. Add on online classes for a bachelors in another 2-4 years while working and I won't have to step foot in a college classroom. I'm still hesitant for the online college courses though, because that still funds the liberal leftist shit-tards running and working in the colleges.
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afkb39sdfb 8y ago
This, or go to a smaller satellite campus of a large university. The kind with no dorms, Greek row, any of that. Usually half to two-thirds the tuition, smaller classes, cheaper living costs in the surrounding area, and none of this BS. Same degree with the same accreditation. Getting my engineering degree at one. Two year transfer degree at community college and two years at the satellite campus. After grants and all that it won't even cost me 20k for an engineering degree.
wont_tell_i_refuse 8y ago
What career did you get into?
putinbush101 8y ago
Pick any good trade and its like that, elec, hvac are pretty fucking easy.
chinawinsworlds 8y ago
Studying process chemistry to become a chemical engineer. Can confirm. Not many girls, but the few present are really bad at almost everything. Total asslickers. It's way easier for them to get better grades, apprenticeships and jobs. Well, if the businesses are pandering to women, I am sure it's for a reason. I am guessing PR.
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MakeEmSayAyy 8y ago
but what if there's monsters down there
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RZ1999 8y ago
Can someone explain to me why colleges have anything at all to do with prosecution of sexual assaults? Call the fucking police!
xray777 8y ago
They don't, because they'd have to prove something. Don't have to prove something to get Chad expelled for pumping and dumping you. Just have to cry! You withdrew consent but were too scared to say it. Easy peasy.
rognos 8y ago
I think the colleges used to cover up blatant, violent rape by paying off victims (free tuition, etc) when athletes were involved. Athletes bring in donors and sell tickets, posters etc. Money money money.
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This shit will go on until punishment occurs for false accusers. Without punishment they will keep doing it and not care about the lives of men being ruined. I don't care if the punishment is legally sanctioned or not honestly, at this point too many men are having their lives ruined by false accusations and something needs to be done to stop the public slandering until evidence comes out.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
Society does not punish women, regardless of how deranged their actions are.
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The thing is if people do get punished for false accusations it will make other people who have legit claims not want to report for fear of it being labeled a false accusation and getting punished. System does have to change though...
slip-down 8y ago
I agree with somwthing Rogan said, that society is overcompensating and eventually the pendulum will swing back to more neutral ground. There's been way too many false rape allegations, more then I can count. Society is reactive trust me they are already desensitized to it.
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This year is that turning point where pretty much any rape case on the news all the people in my family just say 'yep, whatever' and the feminists do not realize what they have done. By over-victimizing rape and by turning it into a weapon against men they have actually fucked (or raped? lol irony) the actual rape victims because no sane person will believe a rape charge anymore. The boy that cried wolf, same thing. When it's finally true no one is going to believe it, and that doesn't bother me one bit at all. Women did this to themselves.
afkb39sdfb 8y ago
They are being punished, on a societal scale, men are opting out.
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That's not punishment. Women are still getting all the sex they want from the highly desirable men, the classic 80/20 rule. They are suffering when it comes to long term relationships and are proven to be highly unhappy about it, but feminism is spinning so women are taught to think that living like it's Sex in the City is actually a good thing. This message keeps being parroted, and like someone with a gambling addiction they will double down even with a losing hand just hoping that next card that flops down is THE ONE they need to win.
[deleted] 8y ago
After the Ghomeshi trial wraps up, Canada will finally have a precedent for false rape accusations.
He's most likely going to get acquitted - his lawyer completely destroyed the case brought forth by the government.
It'll show future cases that either rape needs proof, or it won't last long in court.
putinbush101 8y ago
Have you got a solid site to keep up to date with that case?
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cariboo_j 8y ago
CBC actually published a good article about the importance of due process.
And criticising how the far left wants to get rid of it for sex offenders while the far right wants to get rid of it for suspected terrorists - two sides of the same authoritarian coin.
I'll dig it up later
onehonesttruth 8y ago
Here it is: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/due-process-neil-macdonald-1.3446739
omnicidial 8y ago
Seriously the way our legal system appears to work is women can haphazardly break any laws they want and the state agencies responsible for enforcing them just flatly refuse to enforce them on anyone other than men, usually black men.
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Overkillengine 8y ago
Which is why men must be taught how to get women to volunteer that information so that they can covertly "next" any woman that pulls that crap.
Law 38 can be used to preemptively filter dross as well as defend against it.
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I think Law 38 is the most important Law of the 48. In my estimation, one of the main through-lines of the book is "check your ego," and this sums it up very well.
Don't be a hero and preach. You can make intelligent, strategic choices while making others feel valued.
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Overkillengine 8y ago
Opens one up to defamation lawsuits. Easier and safer in the long run to learn how to get them to incriminate themselves.
TitsAndWhiskey 8y ago
Or just assume they're all like that and don't ever commit to any of them.
Overkillengine 8y ago
That's the default, I specifically mean identifying the ones that one can stick a dick into, and the ones that need hazmat protocols like initial isolation and protective action distances. A woman that brandishes "her rape" like a status symbol falls into the latter.
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darkrood 8y ago
You know how feminism will fail?
By a healthy number of women getting tired of this bullshit when real rape victims are shoved or neglected in favor of "mattress girl".
Gosh...I still hate that bitch....
Eugenics2015 8y ago
Women don't give a shit, they have an own group preference and these sorts of laws make them feel secure.
tallwheel 8y ago
Unfortunately, women as a whole are complacent with feminism. Even if they think feminists are spoiled bitches, they won't do anything to fight back because feminism benefits them too much. It will take enough guys fighting back before anything changes... and those guys will have all the BP white knights and most of the women in the world to fight against.
RedBigMan 8y ago
You don't have to shout from the rooftops the positive benefits of a patriarchy to fight back.
All you need to do is say fuck this shit and join the ranks of MGTOW if you are sick of women and feminazis and stuff. That way you can spend all your money on yourself.
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MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
And yet this backlash isn't happening - and it won't until there are actual consequences of their actions.
deeman010 8y ago
ehh.... people only really tend to move when they're already knee deep in shit.
darkrood 8y ago
Yeah....
RapeCulture# V.S. #IAmNotFeminist# will bring no justice for people who are wronged by false rape accusation.
So, Be careful out there and don't just fuck any random slut.
Alpacash 8y ago
This is getting way out of hand. Falsely accused "rapists" should band together and create a foundation that helps men in situations like this and later goes after the accuser.
Realworld 8y ago
COTWA - Community Of The Wrongly Accused
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It makes me sad that there's a need for this site to exist
equinoxaeonian 8y ago
Good god that first article makes me want to crawl in a fucking hole.
RedMoonAscendant 8y ago
For those who, for whatever reason, don't want to hit that site, it says:
Hillary Clinton has hired Zerlina Maxwell. Do you remember her?
Maxwell has written this: “Ultimately, the costs of wrongly disbelieving a survivor far outweigh the costs of calling someone a rapist.” Maxwell said that false accusations "can be undone by an investigation that clears the accused, especially if it is done quickly."
Yep, she actually said that. And her views mirror those of her new boss, who recently said that rape accusers should be believed until evidence proves the accusation is false.
Yes, friends, if Hillary is elected, we will enter into a feminist nirvana, where women never lie about rape unless the accusation is lobbed at Bill Clinton; where due process for men and boys accused of rape is a luxury we can afford but won't bother to extend; and where it's Salem, Massachusetts, 1692, all the time, at least when it comes to men and boys.
equinoxaeonian 8y ago
Remember that, as a white man in America in 2016, you have no rights, no privilege, and no one gives a shit about you. It's all on you to succeed.
MakeEmSayAyy 8y ago
that's why you get white doctors, they actually earned their job
aa223 8y ago
I am actually glad this is happening. Don't get me wrong, yeah this is ludicrous but think of the long term ramifications. Little by little universities are getting sick of these people. There are some that are catering to them because the professors and administrators are part of the regressive left but overall universities are getting tired.
Professors are getting tired of their bastion of knowledge and free ideas being turned into a daycare for adults. Hell there are professors who are on their ivory towers that are collapsing because of these regressive leftists. This is a long line of things that will start an education civil war between colleges who want to retain their old ideals and colleges that are glorified daycare centers.
So I say yes I hope more shit happens like this because there is only so much they can do until these institutions of higher learning get angry and start weeding them out.
TheRabbitTunnel 8y ago
I know what you mean, I'm glad too
Eugenics2015 8y ago
The sports teams are getting the most tired of it, and in the south the sports teams run the school
TheRabbitTunnel 8y ago
Whether its beta bux, child support, alimony, or manipulating a lawsuit, women sure love to use men as a means to get money.
The_Red_Paw 8y ago
Don't forget plain old extortion. "Give me all your money or I'll scream rape"
afkb39sdfb 8y ago
The Scorpion and the Frog
A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion says, "Because if I do, I will die too."
The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"
[deleted] 8y ago
But never use the for sex.
Huh...
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
Also prostitution, paternity fraud and fake pregnancies.
popthatpill 8y ago
At least with prostitution they're doing something useful in return.
VasiliyZaitzev 8y ago
Here's the thing: the University of Tennessee is a public university, and therefore a subdivision of the State of Tennessee, which means that things like "due process" and "innocent until proven guilty" aren't just quaint niceties of a bygone era: they are the law of the land.
This is another attempt to weaponize the state against men, and to turn the state in their own, personal BetaBux.
jylny 8y ago
Half of those aren't even just common law innovations. Like, right to face the accused, due process, right to an attorney are guaranteed Constitutional rights.
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How does this even happen?!
I hope I'm not being misled here but, feminism is going for justice right? How is due process not justice?
TitsAndWhiskey 8y ago
Lol on what planet is justice the end goal of feminism? You have a lot of learning to do.
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0kool74 8y ago
You are right.....due process is justice. But it's not social justice....and that's what they're going after.
[deleted] 8y ago
Ah, right, that sounds like a clear distinction.
Now that I read the post, I don't even know why I said feminism.
RedBigMan 8y ago
Social Justice: You're guilty because I said so. (Also usually because you are white and/or male).
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So, I always guilty?
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TheRabbitTunnel 8y ago
I don't think so, I think many women can appear as normal at first. Anyway, the post didn't mean that redpill knowledge would give you a psychic ability to know who is crazy, it means you have the knowledge to get a variety of women, so you aren't "limited to" or "stuck with" the crazy ones.
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tallwheel 8y ago
The matter of whether they are guilty or not is not the issue. If they are guilty, then they should definitely be punished, and I hope the court finds them guilty after a fair trial. The issue is whether due process is followed or not. Whether the accusations in this case are false or not is irrelevant.
TheRabbitTunnel 8y ago
What are you talking about? The men being accused of being rapists want a trial, due process, and so the school allows it, and the accusers get to sue the school for that? Thats complete bullshit, it doesn't matter what other schools use for policy. Of course a player backing the girls is going to be threatened, these girls are trying to prevent due process and he's fighting for that? He's probably just trying to get laid by them. "People I spoke with at a party" what the hell are you talking about? Do you personally know people from this incident? Or do you think random people at parties have divine knowledge?
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TheRabbitTunnel 8y ago
That literally makes zero sense. Due process is federal rules. You can't make up laws and say that a school is "going against federal rules" because you don't like the way the situation is being dealt with. They are suing for free tuition & fees and all that stuff, this is a money scandal at a bare minimum (even if the rapists are guilty, it doesn't mean all these girls should get a ton of free stuff).
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tallwheel 8y ago
Title IX is being abused to support issues it was never designed for. A lot of these "guidelines" have not held up in court when challenged. The law of the land is still due process, and anything in the Title IX "guidelines" that goes against against due process does not hold up when challenged in court.
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tallwheel 8y ago
The issue, as I understand it, is that Title IX itself originally didn't cover sexual assault. It was a general amendment which was designed to make sure all sexes and races were treated "equally".
The trouble arose when "guidelines" were added with the Dear Colleague Letter. The letter outlined responsibilities for universities to carry out disciplinary action for sexual assault and rape. The universities proceeded to set up their own kangaroo courts and star chambers for punishing accused rapists.
There have been quite a few law makers, law professors, and accused students who have now actively challenged the guidelines. A few students have even won in court.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/01/07/senators-challenge-legality-us-guidance-campus-sexual-assault
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tallwheel 8y ago
And that's what this is all about. The Dear Colleague Letter was sent out, and universities set about enforcing it as if it were law. What remains to be clarified is whether it is or it isn't. Since there are guidelines in the letter that have been used to justify systems where due process has not been followed, courts and lawmakers are challenging the Letter's legitimacy as enforceable.
What eventually needs to happen, is that it needs to be made publicly clear that the Letter (or at least the provisions against due process) is not legitimate and should not be followed. We are in the middle of this process now. It will happen, but it is a matter now of how long it will take.
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Total shit excuse. I dated girls that go to the college in my town, they talk about the rape rooms at the parties and how terrible it is then not even a minute later she texts a friend how psyched they both are to go to this weekend's party and how cool it will be. These women both talked to each other knowing about these 'rape rooms' and yet want to go to a party at that same place. It's just sluts who don't want to own up to that fact and cry rape out of self-guilt.
TheRabbitTunnel 8y ago
Using what a couple from a party tells you as a basis for your argument is completely absurd anyway.
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Forgot to mention this lol
speed3_freak 8y ago
This wasn't a party with a 'rape room'. It was a party where two guys had sex with two chicks that were far past the ability to consent.
There was enough evidence for the DA to prosecute probably the best player on the Vols. If there wasn't a great case, no way he would be going to trial. Shit that our players do that gets swept under the rug is astonishing. Not just sexual assault either, a few years ago a couple of players almost killed an off duty police officer.
Edit:http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/sports/college/story/2010/jul/09/vols-football-players-brawl-bar/22850/
One of the players involved got kicked off the team.
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And yet the women had no responsibility for willingly going to a party and getting blackout drunk? See that double standard? And why can't the defense be used that the guys were so drunk they couldn't control their actions? Wouldn't fly in court right? Stop stepping up for that feminist bullshit, you weren't there. The people that were there were drunk and witnesses on both sides will slap their biases on what their hazed eyes saw that night. No proof of rape. DA's went off and prosecuted hastily before to get their 5min of fame so don't use that as proof there is proof for the case either.
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Personal attacks are all you have left when you ran out of logic? An accusation based only on words you have said, since I never mentioned if I drink or if I date women that drink? You are hamstering, get out of here with that and bring a real argument.
How do you know the women were passed out? How do you know how drunk the guys were or how much the women drank? Guys can fuck really badly while drunk, in the same way women can fuck badly when drunk. How do you know the women did not consent? Maybe they did. You are assuming everything while you absolve the women of ALL responsibility, it makes me wonder if you shouldn't be calling yourself a fool instead of calling me one because you believe a second hand story from people that were also likely drunk about what happened in a party.
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Eugenics2015 8y ago
Dumb post. A dark ally rape is a completely different situation where the woman is at ZERO fault. A woman has the right to walk wherever she wants dressed however she likes.
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Typical whiteknight behavior, you know the guys involved yet side with the women automatically while giving them a pussypass. You weren't there. You are going on heresay at best yet you whiteknight. That IS the definition of whiteknighting.
And talking legal responsibility the women should share in it. Guys get fucked over in jail all the time for not paying child support for children that are not even genetically their own due to some fucked up laws. The laws are rigged to fuck over men long before the justice system will fuck over women. You are not bringing evidence, you are trying to use the whole precedent argument to prove your point, 'well the DA jumped in SO THEY MUST BE RIGHT' yeah whatever. You bring nothing but a pro-feminist opinion in what looks to be another false rape conviction. You keep going on about this lawsuit over protocol and promotion of 'rape culture', that's not happening now matter how many times women and their loyal bluepill cucks keep parroting it. Go to the middle east, live there for a decade. When you come back tell me about this 'rape culture' we have here in the west, you will be laughing because girls aren't being married off by the time they become a young teen here.
speed3_freak 8y ago
Sometimes guys actually do rape women. From all the information I've seen, this seems to be one of those times. You have a lot of anger.
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Again you are reading into what isn't there. If I was truly angry I wouldn't bother responding to posts like this one. Again, like clockwork, you do not bring any argument except a weak one, this time a 'well sometimes it's true!' then you personally attack me again by trying to paint me as an angry individual. You have nothing but hearsay. Where's the evidence of trauma? See the reason women got away with this stuff so far is in rape it can be hard to prove innocence or guilt. But assuming, like you do, is what causes innocent men to go to jail. Bring. Real. Evidence. Not what a few drunk partygoers said they might or might not have saw. Until then look up that COTWA site and see what happens to innocent men from people assuming they were guilty and putting them through the mill on nothing but the words of a woman regretting she was a slut. Stop arguing it. Wait for the evidence (actually the lack thereof) to come out in court.
Eugenics2015 8y ago
Party rape means they were given roofies or were passed out. I'm all for burying there sorts of dumbass men under the jail but the women have some self responsibility too.
What exactly did your friends see at the party?
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Eugenics2015 8y ago
Just playing the devils advocate here...
The guys were drunk too, why are they expected to be in complete control why the women aren't? just give me the logic
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Eugenics2015 8y ago
Is it impossible for these women to not drink to the point of being unable to stand up around strange men?
Men who, by the way, are also judgement impaired by alcohol.
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Eugenics2015 8y ago
The men are drunk too remember.
If a girl cannot consent to having sex while drunk how does a man consent to having rape while drunk? By this same logic couldn't we say she raped him?
Needless to say your position doesn't really stand up in a purely logical sense.
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0kool74 8y ago
dang guys.......y'all think you gave this troll enough to eat? Jesus Christ!!!