Thanks to One_friendship_plz for finding this. This post comes from another subreddit, I'm sure you can guess which one.
Summary
In 2014 I went through a pretty bad break-up. I met Will at a NYE party hosted by a friend-of-a-friend and we dated for 10ish months. I loved him - it was probably the best relationship I'd had on a 'personal connection' level - but he had been dishonest about some things (not infidelity - 'life' things) and it led to us breaking up. I couldn't come to terms with his lying by omission - it seemed like he threw away our relationship over nothing.
She blames Will (the guy who is loaded) for ending the relationship because it was obviously his fault that he didn't share his money on her. Like we all know, it's never her fault, she's the victim here.
I was pretty unhappy for a while, not gonna lie. Went on a few dates, had a few Tinder flings, but nothing serious......just all-around happy and patiently waiting for Mr. Right to come along.
So she fucked random men, nothing ever serious and yet she expects her Mr. Right.
My friends and I were invited to the same NYE party this year, hosted by the same person. I knew there was a chance my ex would be there, but I didn't care - I was over him.
Oh I'm sure you were over him, otherwise why else would he be on your mind constantly.
So my girls and I are there early, having a few cocktails and everything is going great... then Will walks through the door. He saw me, smiled, walked directly over and gave me a big hug. With his arms wrapped around me, smelling his cologne... I just melted. In that moment, whatever bad feelings I had about our relationship were completely gone. I just genuinely missed him.
Just like that, all those bad feelings are gone when she sees Will, her Alpha.
My friends could tell that seeing him had affected me. They took me to a more private area of the house to talk it out; they reminded me to not get ahead of myself, he's still the same guy who lied to you.
Her friends are trying to make her feel better by blame shifting everything on Will, obviously the feelings with this one are strong.
Will found another girl
She arrived about 10 minutes later and Will introduced her to everyone. She seemed nice enough, but seeing them together made me sick to my stomach. I swear she was being all touchy-feely with him just to spite me. I did my best to avoid them throughout the night. I found out through a friend that they'd been dating for 2 or 3 months. The party ended, I got into a car with my friends and just started sobbing uncontrollably. They tried to comfort me but I was too far gone. They dropped me off and I cried for while longer alone in my apartment.
Of course, she was definitely trying to spite you. Alpha widowed forever.
I want him back so bad, I just don't know what to do :(
Awwwwwww...it's ok, you'll find a man that will make you happy one day.
If you read the comments section, no one is comforting her, they all say it's her fault for ending the relationship.
EDIT: You can find the originsl story on my page, just go under my submitted stuff for those of you who are interested.
HumanSockPuppet 7y ago
Gonna leave the archive.today link to the original post here, for posterity's sake.
https://archive.is/75520
tolerantman 7y ago
Everytime I read "Mr. Right", a little part of me dies, and a new seed of rage takes its place.
cover20 8y ago
I have a little sympathy for her. Women do have a clock. She wanted to understand that things were moving forward. Maybe he wasn't communicating enough for her to believe it would actually happen. She wanted commitment, and given her biology, it's a reasonable thing for her to want.
But then why would she make the point now about dishonesty? He did nothing unfair or wrong to her.
MeatCurtainRod 8y ago
And THIS, boys and girls, is why you beat your EX and get over your EX, by being successful in life. None of this "how do I get revenge" or "how do I fuck her up" BS. Women know this, and have it down like a science. Live life, make lots of money, do awesome hobbies, lift, have fun, and make something of yourself.
Albacorewing 8y ago
I read your original story.
The young woman is an obvious gold digger. She wanted the guy to spend money on her, buy flashy things, live in a new house, and drive a new car. She mentioned several things related to that...he had an old car...lived in an old house...and had shirts over two years old. She is as mercenary as a pirate.
The man dodged a bullet.
5t3fan0 8y ago
And also, her "friends" want to fuck him as well to have their own chance to secure the cash
NiftyDolphin 8y ago
Negative. Her friends were luxuriating in the tingles and emotions that were unfolding that night. The Alpha Widow's drama was the emotional equivalent of an all-expenses paid trip to a 4 star day spa. They were feeding off of her.
Cristoff13 8y ago
And you can bet it was the same bunch of harpies who encouraged her to break up with him in the first place.
cover20 8y ago
They were also interested to get any clues that could give them a shot at him.
StandWatie 8y ago
LOL at serving her potato soup and downloading a movie to watch. He handled his breakup like a boss, but honestly he sounds like a bit of a loser.
[deleted] 8y ago
What a pig! It sickens me to see how he didn't have any regret of throwing away a wonderful relationship and then to top it off he brings a hotty with him to make this poor girl, who has recently been emotionally scared by men on Tinder for trying to fill a hole in her life that was caused by him to begin with, jealous.
Gigandeth 8y ago
Are you trying to advertise your profile? Why can't you link the article lime everyone else. You say we should go your page but I don't even know what the original article is called. I would have preferred reading that before having a look at your watered down version
Schrodingersdawg 8y ago
Or you could to the "top all time" and ctrl-f "oil"... I was the original poster and he's trying to win internet points i guess
Thaweed 8y ago
pure gold right here.
"If a man with disposable income meets a women he likes, doesn't he want to treat her?" and "He could have easily kept our relationship alive by being forthcoming"
I love how he doesnt love her because he does not spend enough money on her.
[deleted] 8y ago
Best part is how this story has been twisted after some time in her perspective.
le_king_falcon 8y ago
Her perception of the situation is her reality.
Once you understand that perception isn't reality and can be altered wholesale by emotion, stageplay and outright fallacy you begin to come to terms with the female ability to change her past actions to suit her.
White_Phillip 8y ago
I originally thought that post may have been made up, possibly by one of us. But you can't fake that level of hamstring. It's so natural, so real, so subtle. The reframing isn't fantastical or contrived, but really subconscious and just convenient enough. If it is fiction it's damn convincing fiction.
trumpisafaggybeta 8y ago
This is without a doubt the single biggest and most subtle message here. Look at how she twisted the story to make herself look like a victim. In reality she dumped this dude because he wasn't willing to give her his money. He then puts his cards on the table and she feels "cheated," somehow.
I'd say it's sad, but it's pretty scary that so many women have similar mentalities as this.
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His friends told her about his money, not him. Having people say good things about you is more attractive than bragging about yourself.
Entropy-7 8y ago
There, corrected it for you.
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Laughed my ass off. Women are crazy tho.
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Alphaspire 8y ago
This is her frame. It didn't hold up to inspection over text on the internet, but it might have worked on her friends IRL.
FoxMcWeezer 8y ago
A woman's IRL girlfriends' job is not to help them grow into better human beings, it's to make each other feel good. That's the bottom line. They all have to lie to each other, like agreeing without personal thought that ex-boyfriend was an asshole, or blindly complimenting each other's pictures on social media. That's why it worked on her friends IRL. They each have to keep up this facade of supporting the other ambitionless friends so they in turn can use the support when they need it.
Alphaspire 8y ago
I don't disagree. I also think the vast majority of twox is used for the exact same reasons, hence the removal of posts that don't commiserate with OP.
I wanted to highlight that use of frame, because I wasn't certain if Koalasonfire made the connection and I wanted to reinforce that lesson for my benefit, and anyone else reading that didn't catch it.
dothemathdothemath 8y ago
I remember a post around the time twox became a default sub, where a woman had posted a picture of herself in graduation robes for her master's degree. I scanned the comments and out of hundreds, only one asked about her degree. The VAST majority of the posts were talking about how pretty her hair was, or how young she looked, or how beautiful her dress was (the graduation robes were open in the middle so you could see the dress).
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Philhelm 8y ago
Unless the woman has been impeccably polite, I will usually raise my real estimate by about ten years.
Schrodingersdawg 8y ago
Should've just agreed/amplified.
"50?" In the most genuine voice
bluedrygrass 8y ago
Well them, how old was she really? don't let us hanging. She was really 28, wasn't she?
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natman2939 8y ago
I thought you were going to say she actually was 28 and was offended she looked her age
In these situations the only time I do the lying stuff is with really older woman. I'll tell a 50 year old she looks 22
But anyone 20-35 I try to guess accurately
elevul 8y ago
Damn, she was that bad at taking care of herself?
Echelon64 8y ago
Tanning doesn't do wonders for your skin.
Kalepsis 8y ago
My favorite part of her original post was this:
If a man with disposable income meets a woman he likes, doesn't he want to treat her?
Maybe she should've treated him. Equal pay, right? So many women are so adamant that they should get paid the same as men, but when it comes to paying for their half of a relationship? Hell no.
The hypocrisy is astounding.
Squeezymypenisy 8y ago
Goddammit i remember this. Is the original still up? Where can I find it? I want to read the comments. They weren't sympathetic to her last time.
One_friendship_plz 8y ago
She deleted her post, and the mods deleted the comments because people were too honest with her.
There's still an existing archive that has some of the comments before they were deleted though
https://archive.is/ednsL (The original post.)
https://archive.is/Nf7nf (The updated post.)
It's really damn satisfying to read.
trumpisafaggybeta 8y ago
Thank God people here archive this sort of shit.
Squeezymypenisy 8y ago
Really satisfying thanks. Not sure if this was the reason but i know those mods don't allow relationship advice posts in that subreddit. She might have been making a complain post though. Which is typical of that sub.
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elevul 8y ago
Rotfl, the comments have been wiped in the original post. Mods went bananas to censor everything.
weiguk 8y ago
This is said to be the original post: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCoweMSUMAA63Cb.png (linked in your archive of the original post). In case someone just wants the posts and not the comments.
FreakyFruit 8y ago
Thank you. I really needed to read the preamble to the story, as it was deleted.
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[deleted] 8y ago
I'd love to see the OP. I wonder what she wrote
juiceperks 8y ago
That story was almost as good as the one where the introverted video gamer's GF requested a break to travel the world and she found out he immediately started banging some other chick and she was livid... lol women.
Uptonogood 8y ago
That one was pure gold. You could cut the hypocrisy with a knife.
JihadDerp 8y ago
Yeahhhhh my ex dumped me because i was about to move out of state and she didn't want to do long distance. So I immediately started banging other girls on tinder. She was PISSED. Bitch, you dumped me!
[deleted] 7y ago
I went through something similar in high school (before I even knew about Reddit): my ex-girlfriend admitted to cheating on me with one of her coworkers and then shamelessly begins to message me about him days later. I then tell her about this HB7.9 feminine, black girl with a nice ass who is into me (true at the time, by the way). Damn, she felt so defeated. "You're an asshole because you're already seeing another girl"! Bitch please......
antifragileman 8y ago
Lol wtf do they think breakup means?
elevul 8y ago
Yeah, that one was absolutely gorgeous. The guy was pretty awesome to have the second one lined up so fast.
BaconEggsAndSleaze 8y ago
Always have two in the kitty.
insertnames 8y ago
Sauce? I need to rub one out before bed.
chootey 8y ago
I remember that one. The funniest part was that she had to convince the guy to do this break. He really didn't want to do it but finally agreed after she pestered him and forced him. Then he just started banging some other chick.
juiceperks 8y ago
Don't know how i could find it but I'm positive it was posted on TRP though I think the original was deleted. The chick found out by an email from a nosy old lady neighbor.
Fire_away_Fire_away 7y ago
Did you find it? Please I gotta see this
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
My favorite comment from that one:
Ha, ha, ha.
You're an idiot.
With love,
The Internet.
Enjoy your cake. And cats.
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lnvader 8y ago
Redpill porn at its finest, gentlemen.
[deleted] 8y ago
Reading this high school shit made my penis soft.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
This is female disgusting behavior at it's finest. Their feeding off the drama created by their female friend whilst simultaneously giving her advice that's against her best interest. They want her to be miserable so they can have a one up in the group. Classic bitch behaviour. And they do all this under the pretence of being "her friend". But make no mistake, each and everyone of them is plotting the destruction of the rest of the group.
Women ain't team players and will never know what it's like to genuinely care about anyone else in their whole lives.
[deleted] 8y ago
I literally do not understand any rp man who wants a ltr Why use a selfish disgusting creature aka a female, for anything other than sex?
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
You're preaching to the choir man. Maybe it's me but there's no way I could enter an honest relationship with a woman nowadays.
I've adopted something I call 'Pretend Relationships', the idea being that when forced I eventually agree to an LTR. But in my mind she's still a plate and I just continue with my standard programming. Eventually she might break and implode but who cares about that. I've got no fucks left to give.
Sad reality but hey, at least everyone is getting laid more than before.
HumanSockPuppet 8y ago
Think about what you mean when you say "honest relationship".
What you likely mean is a relationship where exchanges are "fair" and there's no social manoeuvring or manipulation necessary.
Relationships have always required manoeuvring and manipulation, but you didn't realize it until you took the Red Pill. Fair exchange is not something that happens with women.
LTRs are possible with wome if you charge them upfront and get what you want first, and THEN they can have something in return.
"Fairness" is just a word women use to get free stuff. Once their stomachs stop growling they don't know what the word means.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
No dude I meant entering a relationship with a woman where I'd stay loyal, feel some semblance of responsibility for her or where I'd honestly care for her.
I tried but I really don't think I'm able to go beyond "liking" some girl. After discovering TRP any sliver of guilt I had for this basically just vanished.
Besides that I do agree with everything else you've said.
HumanSockPuppet 8y ago
Ah, indeed.
Well, being loyal isn't your problem. It's a woman's job to incentivize you into investing in her emotionally. This is the lost art of "girl game", and it is a skill in which modern women are sorely lacking.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Yeah I think girls have no game beyond showing their ass, tits and make up'd faceplate. I guess whoring it up for you when they consider you Chad is part of their game. But honestly this is just them 'Letting' you do shit to them. All of which I love.
It just doesn't constitute affection afterward, specially not when they start throwing tantrums or demanding your affection (ie: honest commitment).
Then again I might be a repressed sociopath, who knows.
HumanSockPuppet 8y ago
I don't think it's sociopathy at all. Love must be inspired.
This is the tragic consequence when the nuclear family is destroyed. Women grow up without the proper feminine polarity to keep a man that she has attracted.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
I'm sure it also has something to do with the entitlement our yougth is brought up with. In all honesty all boys are to, it just gets destroyed in them when reality hits. The only guys that still are entitled are Narcissistic blue pills.
Tragic indeed.
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I dont even get into LTRs. im just gonna plate, fwb & ons for the rest of my life . No woman is worth any investment besides a lay. Women are nothing but a series of holes and a walking life support system for those holes, to me. Honestly wish they were just sold like cattle & bred for breeding. Like clone Chambers in star wars. Women are impossible to have a relationship with because the most effective way of dealing with them is not to have a relationship with them.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
There's no point in having any real interest or care for a woman, unless you want to shoot yourself in the foot.
[deleted] 8y ago
Basically. My mom & aunts are the only woman I have Any genuine care for.
All other women exist to be used or fucked.
"she want me to make hery wife, hold up, get outta my sight Never loved a bitch cept my momma, please, wont be the first in my life" - GMEBE Bandz, Demons. Good song.
fuckeh 8y ago
Dude I am laughing my ass off here. If you're a parody or not thank you.
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Nah I'm deadass serious lmao, no problem tho.
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[deleted] 8y ago
Was this the guy who sat eating cheap food and watching YouTube documentaries and she wasn't happy with such a low-budget lifestyle?
FoxMcWeezer 8y ago
Yeah, potato soup and torrenting movies
EMON87 8y ago
I went and read your original post...this man is my fucking hero. He's a legend. He's what every one of us should aspire to be like.
His handling of the breakup was epic. "Fine by me." I say that each time, but it still hurts. It didn't hurt Will. He didn't give two fucks.
As for the money? Will comes from a good, good family. Some of you may know I did trusts/estate planning for some of the richest families in the country. The nine figure families? The ones who went from seven figure net worth a to pushing a billion in the last 20 years?
They live like Will.
My favorite story to tell is of a little girl with $185,000,000 in trust waiting for her to turn 18 leaning over to her parents and asking them if she could have whatever she wanted and remarking at how expensive everything is...
....at Red Lobster.
$185,000,000. Let that sink in. Girl was set to take 3.5% per annum in distributions upon turning 18. $6.5 million a year, for life. Couldn't get over a $30 meal.
This woman gave up, literally, everything she'd ever wanted because she wanted the APPEARANCE of wealth. She wanted to show off.
This post staggers me.
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She was so close to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...
So close.
1b2a 8y ago
I remember this story. It's been a long road.
dwill6413 8y ago
Will dodged a bullet on that one. He was spared a life of bullshit and drama from an obviously inadequate, self absorbed, psychologically fragile and admittedly loose bimbo. Will didn't share his wealth information with her for a reason. That reason is, she was exactly this for Will ---> Quote "I was pretty unhappy for a while, not gonna lie. Went on a few dates, had a few Tinder flings, but nothing serious......just all-around happy and patiently waiting for Mr. Right to come along.".
redsfan277 8y ago
Life's a bitch....and then you die
Entropy-7 8y ago
Or the Blue Pill version: Life's a bitch and then you marry one.
Archterus 8y ago
Or the red pill version. She's a bitch and I am free.
Entropy-7 8y ago
Or the other Red Pill version: you're my bitch, bitch! Now suck my dick!
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Planner_Hammish 8y ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SwtOukiaGTk
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Entropy-7 8y ago
Unfortunately, I am in China and they block youtube.
Planner_Hammish 8y ago
Video is Letterkenny Problems: "The Produce Stand"
You may be able to find a non YouTube mirror.
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bloodfoxtrue 8y ago
Haha, thank you for the epilogue to this story. When you fail to call out yourself for your own mistakes, you're not getting off the pain train anytime soon, because you willingly chose to keep riding.
Mgtowredpillonroids 8y ago
Massive Schadenboner. And a round of applause for Mr. Will MA MAN
Austiny1 8y ago
I started following the red pill after the initial story. I still can't believe how she rationalises everything into her favor.. Fucking dudes of tinder waiting for MR. Right, sadly that's the majority of girls I know..
[deleted] 8y ago
Thats 98% of women. Fucking alphas while waiting for their perfect beta bux.
FoxMcWeezer 8y ago
They don't wait for beta bux, they settle for beta bux.
Entropy-7 8y ago
When they can't get the alpha, with bux, who will spend on her. . . or she unknowingly threw him away LMFAO.
thats_abingo 8y ago
So uh could anyone point me in the right direction of this thread so I can see the comments for research purposes....?
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Gawernator 8y ago
The comments on the original post are gold!
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[deleted] 8y ago
well at least this story had a happy ending. Have to admit I lolled at the 'remember he was the one that lied to you' bullshit lol. Yeah you're the victim
Meat-on-the-table 8y ago
It's like watching the Chronicles of the Alpha Widowed. How much are you willing to bet that she'll ride the CC for a while more, until sh'e "totally,like, over Will", then find a nice BB who "makes her feel special" and settle down with him?
Oh, that is, until Will comes around and decides he wants to bang.
bam2_89 8y ago
Will knows better apparently.
RunawayGrain 8y ago
Judging by the party, Will ghosted her pretty well. Will had enough sense not to tell her about the money, ignored her totally when they were in a social situation, and then shows abundance by showing up with a hotter girl. I'd like to buy Will a beer.
"Bene vivere quam optima est ultio"
Meat-on-the-table 8y ago
The ghosting is what's actually rustling her jimmies here.
How does the saying go? It's not the pumping that makes a slut--it's the dumping.
neveragoodtime 8y ago
I haven't heard that, but I like it.
Faps2Down_Votes 8y ago
Have Will buy you one with his grandpa's money.
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Schrodingersdawg 8y ago
Link to the story
UyhAEqbnp 8y ago
this keeps getting worse and worse
TRPApprentice 8y ago
I gotta admit, I love reading stories about women getting FUCKED. After seeing so many instances of the man getting screwed its good to know the women are also getting fucked every now and then. Keep crying those bitch tears, ladies! :)
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allnamesfckintaken 8y ago
the problem with women these days is they want it all. they want to be taken care of but they don't feel like they should save themselves for that man. they want to ride the cock carousel then get taken care of by a good man. well, does anyone ever pick up trash at the park? no, they hire a janitor for that right? that's because nobody takes care of public property. well, if a woman gets fucked by like 30 guys, she's basically public property.
can someone explain to me why a man who has choices would ever choose a woman who was used up by 30 other guys? why would he devote all his time and energy into taking care of such a woman and put her on a pedestal?
MakeEmSayAyy 8y ago
This is rhetorical right? We dont have to explain to you how that they've been entitled so much that this is how they are now.
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(mortal kombat voice) "ALPHA WIDOWED"
bluedrygrass 8y ago
"I swear she was being all touchy-feely with him just to spite me. "
She probably didn't even know who she was, nor did she care. But always everything revolves about her and happens to her. Women's ego is a black hole
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Women are a black hole. Emotional void.
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Missed one.
Solipsism ... everyone is just an actor in a movie in which she is the main character. This chick is going all touchy feely not to spite the ex but because she's probably super hot for Alpha Will.
He demonstrated bonus SMV by showing up with a hot girl who is all over him and now she wants him back in order to take him away from the hot girl.
DatYute 8y ago
What's funny is that she says that the reason the relationship ended was because he lied to her about "life things"(his money), but in the original story, SHE was the one who left him because he was not ambitious enough for her and their dates consisted of watching movies at his apartment. She then later found out, from a friend of his, that he was filthy rich.
ben0wn4g3 8y ago
That is absolutely amazing.
theDarkAngle 8y ago
"He had been dishonest about some things and it led to us breaking up." She can get away with this because it is *technically what happened, although its incredibly misleading because she didnt even know he was lying until well after the breakup.
In her mind, if Will hadn't lied about his money, she wouldn't have felt so unimpressed by his "life goals" or whatever, and she wouldn't have broken up with him. So see, his fault.
White_Phillip 8y ago
It's shit like this that have permanently made me not trust what women tell me on a logical level when it comes to recounting past events, especially relationships.
She didn't cheat on her last boyfriend, he viciously broke up with her and her friend comforted her. She didn't sleep with 30 guys, just 4 because those other 26 guys really weren't sex. She didn't bitch and nag out her last boyfriend until he broke up with her, he just was distant and, like, totally not 100% in so she ended it.
S4mG0ld 8y ago
The value of stealth wealth can never be underestimated.
the99percent1 8y ago
Honestly, how does one hide his wealth so good like that? Must be some elite parenting, serious discipline and a secretive mouth.
RaptorFalcon 8y ago
I hope someone called her on that with quotes from her original post.
Sure everyone makes mistakes, but at least most people own up to them.
Sir_Distic 8y ago
Men own up to them. Women have no reason to have personal responsibility.
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dr_warlock 8y ago
Only a moron spends Several $100+ on shiny rocks. You got suckered.
hhamama66 8y ago
Only a moron spends several $1000s on shiny rocks to impress someone or buy their "love"
menial_optimist 8y ago
While he can do as he pleases, loaded or not watching movies in your apartment everytime would get boring fast.
bluedrygrass 8y ago
But she now apparently finds it the most satisfying thing ever, now that she learnt about his secret wealth. Strange how swiftly interests changes.
_NWA 8y ago
I believe all the cool kids call it "netflix and chill" nowadays
yomo86 8y ago
Did this myself, although not loaded. While going through life like a pony car that is on fire this two seemingly boring things root out all LTR-desasters. Broken girls cannot keep their act in order when faced with normal life. Drama ensues. WWIII drama.
TV, going for a walk, grocery shopping, listening to music. Is it boring? Yes! Is it fun? Occassionally. What does it do? Emulating married life. If she wants bungee jumping, letting you slave away at the office on sundays because we neeeeed a 7 bedroom house, the cruise we always wanted... you get the idea.
mintegral 8y ago
Yeah, this is a good filter that I use in order to screen for LTR girls:
Is she capable of living a "normal" "boring" life? How does she behave when confronted with this "normal" life style? Does she crave other "shiny" things? Does she constantly need some "adrenalin kicks" by going out, doing crazy stuff, constantly seeing her friends, and so on, more than being with me together?
It's a good and fast way to break the initial "mask" for both parties and see if this girl can maintain a LTR on a very basic level.
Caucasian-African 8y ago
It's amazing how women will just automatically change basic premises / details in an argument or discussion. They make those small changes hoping you won't notice, or will just let it slide.
DatYute 8y ago
No doubt. In this case, it is actually a completely different story than what actually happened, masked in a way to look like she was always saying the same thing. Scary actually.
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And if you call them out on it, it makes the argument worse it's the most ridiculous tactic ever
Entropy-7 8y ago
As with a false rape accusation, unless you have things explicitly in writing or video evidence with audio (and ideally running commentary or mind-reading closed captions) , your side of the story is not really considered.
Ojisan1 8y ago
Gaslighting is a real skill that most women have, and while some may choose not to use it, most men are generally lacking good defenses against it. As always, maintaining frame is everything.
Sir_Distic 8y ago
Holy shit! 4 years after my last LTR ended I'm now realizing she gaslighted me. She'd constantly use my words against me and even twist them so I looked like a liar.
And she had a Master's in English working towards her PhD.
thisishowiwrite 8y ago
Yep, literally had it happen to me during an argument with the gf the other night. I actually went into the fucking party, dragged out two of our friends, and threatened to go get a third before she'd admit the bullshit she was pulling. The fucking hamster in full swing mate.
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Yep. If you're going to try to LTR up a girl you better know how to steel yourself against the common solipsistic gaslighting a woman will engage in.
Entropy-7 8y ago
For women, the ret-cons they pull seem to be more about keeping their own, perpetually shattered ego together rather than as an intentional method of psychological abuse to drive you crazy.
It's more of a reverse gaslighting because they do it to themselves to convince themselves that they are not insane WRT their choices and behavior in your relationship, especially after the relationship ends on a bad note.
db0255 8y ago
Holy fuck the comments on here are cynical as hell haha.
reddymcwoody 8y ago
How exactly do you defend against it?
I try call them out on the small key details they changed and they flip it on me and make me seem juvenile.
bRpill 8y ago
You never argue with women, it's always a losing proposition, specially if you're right.
Overkillengine 8y ago
Steamroll it by acting on what you have actually observed instead of what she tells you that you saw.
Do not negotiate. Do not argue. Act. And if she does not get in line, NEXT!
Anything other than that runs a much higher chance of encouraging and enabling that bullshit. Which means, you as a male, are going to be stuck forever in the patriarchal role because no one else in her fucking life is forcing her to be responsible!
thisishowiwrite 8y ago
This 100%. "I don't give two fucks what you said/think, I know the truth of the matter and I trust myself 1000x more than I trust you."
Ojisan1 8y ago
Exactly what not to do. By debating the details of the story you have already lost, you've entered her frame and are negotiating how you're going to live in her reality, not yours.
catjugglinpimp 8y ago
thank you. do not argue. it is their realm.
Ojisan1 8y ago
Frame.
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Ojisan1 8y ago
Read the link. I can't explain it better than Rollo Tomassi.
Linoran 8y ago
It's quite amazing actually how they manage to twist stories like that. "It's not a lie if you believe it".
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RobBobGlove 8y ago
We've always been at war with Eastasia
NeutralHavoc 8y ago
We've always been allies with Eurasia
exit_sandman 8y ago
How many fingers do you see, shitlord?
NeutralHavoc 8y ago
Five! No, Three! As many fingers as you want, but PLEASE don't call me sexist!
wiseprogressivethink 8y ago
Ever had a girlfriend cheat on you, then later explain/justify it to you by saying that she didn't really cheat because she had already broken up with you...in her mind?
I'm putting this out there, half expecting the follow-up comments to be "ouch...that's a new one" but also half-expecting the follow-up comments to be "yep, same exact shit happened to me too."
(AWALT, but the specific scenarios and excuses can still be novel.)
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Betamax69 8y ago
Yep. Same exact thing happened to me. One of the things I love about this forum is comparing notes and seeing AWALT from different people's perspective
GeminiEngine 8y ago
(Blue pill me) Similar story. We would have a huge fight she would declare it over, go bang someone, come back for the relationship. When I found proof of these repeating activities, she denied it was cheating. So I told her that might be possible, but it means you were using me until you found something better. (Insert tears) I told her to pick one crime, usury or adultery, and we will discuss the possibility of reparations. She actually asked if there was a third option, nope, next.
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After you hear she's fucked somebody else whatever insane justification she gives is meaningless.
It's not even worth listening to. Just fucking tune that shit out and move on with your life.
WakingUpAlice 8y ago
AWALT for sure, on top of that most women have a back up betabucks for comfort and an Alphafucks for fun. The relationship is usually over before you know it because of how manipulative female society is. Ask any "drama free" female and they will tell you why they hang out with guys more as I have learned over the course of my sad beta existence until I found salvation here.
chrismonx 8y ago
This reminds me of being a teenager way to much.
Jasperbeardly11 8y ago
I have done that to a girl before. I felt bad about it but things were so far gone and so fucked up that I felt I had no recourse. I honestly didn't break up with her for another few months due to life reasons like debt and money related but eventually went through with it.
I was not right. But situations can be murky as fuck.
Il128 8y ago
It gets better as they get older. I've seen so many married 40+ year old women who are constantly out fucking men just trying to find a better branch that won't drop her ass.
Eventually some beta who really just wants to get laid will do a lieship with her and she gets divorced. The hilarity starts as soon as she figures out her new BB provider isn't sticking with her or isn't divorcing his wife.
These women then spend years looking for mr perfect and they are shocked when all mr perfect does is pump and dump her.
JourneymanTRP 8y ago
There is a girl i'm talking to now who has a boyfriend. She keeps making up sex dreams and texting me the very detailed fantasies she has involving me, saying they are dreams and that since it isn't 'real' she isn't doing anything her boyfriend wouldn't like.
exit_sandman 8y ago
Well, that's branch-swinging. And, quite honestly - if she actually does break up with the guy after sleeping with another dude (regardless of whether the branch holds or not), it's tolerable to some degree (she would have slept with other dudes anyway after a breakup).
The real cunts are those who cheat but stick to their BB, because he's safe and secure and takes care of her.
mtskin 8y ago
wife of 16 years used the "we were on a break" line to justify cheating thankfully my life is so much more without her around
balalasaurus 8y ago
That's how it goes man. With the number of things that go on in women's minds, I'm surprised they can acknowledge reality at all.
Battle-Scars 8y ago
Cheating is her way to say she's breaking up with you, it's up to you to pick up the signals yourself.
Appleseed12333 8y ago
its like you can see the hamster and translate what it's saying.
Seducibledotcom 8y ago
I "leave" my gf a couple times a month. I just never get around to telling her.
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me_gusta_poon 8y ago
Can you explain this further?
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KasperskyEmployee 8y ago
He sleeps with other women.
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UCISee 8y ago
Same. Shit. Different faces. "You left me on the side like trash! I had to find someone who treated me well!" This was a wife. While I was deployed. Six weeks in to the deployment. Then she tried to tell me it never happened on any other deployments. You couldn't even wait two months, what makes you think I believe you waited over a year!?
Wel108 8y ago
I had a similar thing happen to me where she denied ever doing anything. Of course, i looked into it, and i uncovered the truth. The weirdest most satisfying look you will ever see from a female is when you both know she just got caught 150% in her lie, and you see her for who she really is.
Of course that also means its the end of you guys in every way possible. Because you now remind her of the her she doesn't "want to be."
dr_warlock 8y ago
It's delusional to expect someone capable of getting laid to remain celibate throughout the duration of deployments. People in the military shouldn't be in relationships at all once they ship off.
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I remember what my first Drill Sergeant told me and I took it to heart.
He said he loves his wife, but when he comes back from a long field op or a deployment, he doesn't go around kicking in doors trying to find skeletons. If he comes home and all is back to normal, he doesn't give a fuck, but he said you should ALWAYS have a backup plan. Secret bank accounts, bug out supplies, house and car not in wife's name, etc.
dr_warlock 8y ago
You see, that's a man who 'gets it'.
trumpisafaggybeta 8y ago
Well no-- if you're in a serious LTR then the expectation is certainly there. HOWEVER, if you live in a feminized society with hypergamous sluts in your LTRs, then yeah, this expectation is silly since she'll spread her legs soon enough for Chad.
dr_warlock 8y ago
Unreasonable. LDRs dont exist.
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This isn't posited either it's a natural law. If you're not here then you aren't having a relationship. You're alone and then with someone part time, the fall out of which is predictable and observable.
trumpisafaggybeta 8y ago
What does the "D" stand for there? Duration?
This may be the case with feminized sluts in the west, but LTR's definitely do exist in this day and age. They just tend to be rarer and require a great deal of effort to find women who were raised were these values.
dr_warlock 8y ago
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Distance
Relationship
IAMAwhitecismaleAMA 8y ago
Fuck, this is why you have to have kids stat if you're going to be deployed. Because even if she cheats on you or god forbid you get shot your money doesn't just go to a gold digger.
kneeonbelly 8y ago
What the fuck? Have kids stat? I mean I 'see' your logic but the reality is you'll probably come back alive, and your baby mama is still a whore but now has (a) kid(s) to lord over and keep away from you, all while collecting your extra child support check with no accountability for how the money is spent. If you are worried about giving away your hard-earned money to a gold digger, definitely DO NOT fucking knock her up too.
IAMAwhitecismaleAMA 8y ago
I'd rather some of my money went to the kids too instead of her just running away onto the CC with my money. The kids will also tie her to me.
_NWA 8y ago
lol why are you so keen on a bitch taking your money and staying involved in your life?
Aerys 8y ago
Why would you want to further entangle yourself legally with such a person?
MuleJuiceMcQuaid 8y ago
How? You paying child support to her for a few decades? Just because you created a life together doesn't magically make her loyal, that's BP logic.
Listen, if you don't want your benefits going to her then don't get married. Even if you aren't in the military, don't get married. The risk vs. reward hasn't been worth it for a long time.
UCISee 8y ago
I thank xenu every single day that I didn't have kids with that psycho. She's a nut in every aspect. If I had kids with her I would seriously contemplate a murder suicide just so the kids wouldn't have to be raised by someone who so obviously needs to be medicated like the rest of the women in her family. I don't know how her dad puts up with it.
IAMAwhitecismaleAMA 8y ago
Her dad is actually the issue here.
Peter_Principle_ 8y ago
They only way to ensure that is to control and spend the money yourself. Money she gets from CS payments can be spent however she sees fit: manicures, vacations for her and her new boyfriend, new sports car payments, alcohol, cigarettes, adult toys, tithings, whatever. Family courts don't care how the money is spent and you have no recourse if you do.
Wrong. Family courts do not care about father's visitation. Sure, you can try to bring her back to court if she violates the parenting plan. Got a spare 10 or 20 grand available? You might even get results. Good luck, you'll need it.
OR
You could just not have kids and avoid the whole idiot mess.
IAMAwhitecismaleAMA 8y ago
FUCK. This is why white people aren't having kids anymore while all the other demographics are popping them out by the dozen.
NAmember81 8y ago
I was sharing an apartment with a girl and got sick of her shitty attitude and non stop bitching so while she was gone one day I packed all my stuff up and moved out. A week or so later when I was getting the larger items from the apartment she makes a comment like "that's why I had to break up with you". Lol
I didn't waste my time arguing about who left who but I'm sure the story she tells herself and others is that she kicked me out.
RedPillAtNight 8y ago
I had an LTR with a girl who was my unicorn, almost. I lost my job of 25 years on a Friday, met her 60 hours later on Monday (hey, I could do lunch dates since I was unemployed) and didn't find full time employment for 22 months, she never said a single word. In six and a half years she never said no to sex once. She would book out of the way B&Bs for weekend fuck fests. Naked photos any time. She even booked a naked couples photo shoot for us for my birthday. Most self aware person I know. Emotionally intelligent to a huge degree. Disagreements were timely, kindly and gently handled. A million other things made her perfect for me.
But the lack of caring about money was a double edged sword. She had debt. Even though she didn't really seem to waste money, even on a salary approaching six figures she didn't seem to have enough to pay stuff off. Then without telling me she borrowed $24k for her kids year of college. It was the last straw.
So finally we set a meeting and we both knew I was going to pull the plug due to her money issue. We get to the meeting and she says, "This isn't working." She was breaking up with me! She had some bogus reasons why it wasn't working out. It had to be her idea.
Stuff is never her fault, even in the most emotionally solid people.
railatx 8y ago
Yep! Women are always the one to end the relationship in their minds.
Zaorish9 8y ago
Yep it's amazing how girls will 110% of the time twist any breakup story to make themselves a victim
tallwheel 8y ago
In her mind, she did break up with you. Her being a bitch was her soft nexting you.
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She really believed she dumped you after you packed up your shit and left her. This is so fucking stupid that it can't be made up. You dodged the bullet broseph.
bigbuzd1 8y ago
16 years after catching my wife banging my best friend, and sending mushy emails and her bra to an internet stranger, and I am still the one she blames for ending a wonderful marriage. Even brainwashed my, at the time, 9 yr old son into believing it...it was all daddy's fault for leaving.
trumpisafaggybeta 8y ago
It really sucks when feminized sluts warp their kids' minds into thinking that their fathers are villains. I know that female solipsism/selfishness is a thing, but you'd think that they'd have an ounce of decency or respect for their child's biological father. Nope-- it's about using and dumping you on the side of the street.
RS73 8y ago
The angry male feminist mommy-worshippers I've met over the years have usually been guys who were raised by single mothers. They were fed an endless diet of "your father's an asshole, your mother's a saint" by their mother from the day they were born. Of course, that sometimes backfires and the guys grow up hating their mothers.
trumpisafaggybeta 8y ago
I'd say it also backfires given what said males become-- fat/scrawny nolives who amount to nothing because they were instilled with shitty values by females.
NAmember81 8y ago
I dodged an artillery shell. She got pregnant by some other bloke within a month of me leaving. This was in November 2012 and my mom's still friends with her on Facebook and she is freaking enormous and her baby's daddy in the pictures looks miserable tagging along with her while she's doing selfies at The Cheesecake Factory.
I'm 34 and so thankful that I'm single with no kids. I can do whatever I wish without answering to anybody, so nice.
OhMy8008 8y ago
Gay man here, this is why I love reading through this sub. I never have to get married, or have children, or deal with any of the bullshit that both of those things bring with them. Seeing other men get the same reprieve is a breath of fresh air. So nice.
Purecorrupt 8y ago
Even the guys that get baby rabies on purpose... When I hear about older guys at work talk about their expenses is just depressing.
The cost of vacations triple or more. Pay for yourself, wife, kid(s), and you gotta think about pets. I don't even want a dog, because I live in an apartment. Yet there are still kids that get married and have kids right out of highschool.
Granted if you can afford all of that then gravy, but if they have to complain then it's obviously not all rainbows.
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RPmatrix 8y ago
bro you assume way too much I hate to tell you
The world as you currently know it may not even be here in 10 yrs ... possibly less
[deleted] 8y ago
Completely true, with every year the world just gets shittier and shittier. You'd have to be insane not to see it.
Thaweed 8y ago
Thats so wrong. Why should beeing 30 when your kids move out be a good thing, i for myselfe will not have kids before 40.
barkusmuhl 8y ago
Keep in mind that a woman's fertility is all but gone by their late 30s. This isn't something we should put off until the last minute.
UrRealDad 8y ago
You mean it isn't something THEY should put off until the last minute. No need to settle when a new crop of young women reach legal status every single day.
PrinceofSpades 8y ago
If your family line actually has intelligence, then trust me, you won't be a grandparent at 50, because your kid won't make the stupid mistake that you also didn't make, either, by having a kid at 20.
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I have a cousin that got into the oil industry at the right time when he was 20 and he was able to afford one house to live in, another to refurbish to re-sell as his side-job, and 3 kids by 25. If you can afford it then it doesn't hurt to have kids early, you are still young and in good shape so you are better able to deal with the sleep loss from a baby etc.
PrinceofSpades 8y ago
Well sure, you can go ahead and think that, but three kids equals a dead bedroom on her end, which at 25 is practically a sin considering what my sex drive looks like at 24, and a dead bedroom is one of the first signs of divorce rape. Good thing he spent all that time on that other house, it will be a great prize for his future ex wife and her three kids to live in while they sell off the other one and he's forced to move into an apartment just to scrape by the child support payments for three fucking kids...
Pass.
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Not that it matters but I'm 26 and have 3 kids. My wife brings home women for us to fuck and we're currently working our way through the different levels of BDSM. It's not about the woman or marriage, it's about how you carry yourself in life and the relationship. Who you are is reciprocated in the relationships you have. I want a bunch of kids because kids make me happy and that's the life I want for myself. I still go out to bars and pick up women and still have hobbies and goals. My wife wouldn't ever leave me because she knows I'm better than her and because of that, she is always working for me and giving me what I want. Not every marriage is garbage, it's all about frame and how much you believe in yourself.
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Him and his wife are doing fine in that department. Heard it during one of the family reunions while some of us were trying to sleep (this year I was the guilty party at christmas with a sloot I snuck in from OKCupid, apparently holding her mouth shut still wasn't quiet enough #thanksTRP) This is the older cousin I suspect was here at TRP and was in the manosphere long before I was, he pretty much lives TRP by the book and I always looked up to him as a teen but never got to see him much living on the other side of the state.
Trucks_N_Chainsaws 8y ago
Considering the rest of your post, I find this claim highly suspect.
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zue3 8y ago
Lmfao this comment by itself discredits your "high iq" claim. Fucking cringe reading your comments here.
Trucks_N_Chainsaws 8y ago
Playing video games as a hobby somehow discredits me? Not coming here daily for validation discredits me? That's not how that works.
The entirety of your post is utter non-sense and I didn't even have to creep on your post history to figure that one out.
ColdEiric 8y ago
If you have high IQ, do some reading on the subject of 'natural slavery'. Aristotle has some interesting opinions about it. Wikipedia has a good piece on it.
Edit, after the comments: Guys, if your IQ is high enough, you got books and papers and other sources, sources you've already found yourselves. Search on your own. Use your damn high IQ.
GIGANTIC_NIGGER_DICK 8y ago
Well video games are terrible, so yes you could say that. And before you call me a troll, I would know. I used to be addicted to video games. They are a meaningless waste of time.
The only pass I could give you is on the occasional high quality story game. One the doesn't require 100s of hours of time investment.
[deleted] 8y ago
George Costanza isn't really a good life model to imitate
Profdiddy 8y ago
I was dating this "strong independent woman" a few years back. Took her to Symphony and dinner on my birthday. She got drunk and after she came in bed, basically rolled over and told me she was done. Obviously I hard nexted her. Six month later we screw ons style and she mentions how she felt bad for dumping me. What? That's when I knew for sure how delusional they can be.
IM_PRETTY_RACIST 8y ago
What is your page? Why can't you just post a link to your reference?
Stationarity 8y ago
A friend of mine used to go dancing nightly in Dallas during the 80s. He had a friend that showed up to the club in a beat up pickup truck, wearing clean clothes, nothing fancy. This guy would dance with quite a few girls over the months, and eventually dated one, leading to marriage. That's when he revealed to her, and my friend, that he was a self made multimillionaire. He claimed he would have never known if a woman married him for the money.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
Unless there's a prenup and you're broke at the time.... she married him for money. It's always about the money.
Sure, in this case she didn't know that there was a jackpot... but she married expecting a monthly payment with a highly expensive (for him) opt out clause.
rife_omeqa 8y ago
Fantastic example of a woman's casual relationship with the truth. AWALT.
The story changes after the fact in accordance with her mood, agenda or narrative, in this case the narrative required for her to claim victim-hood at a NYE party and on reddit.
Learn from this example. Don't underestimate a woman's capacity to do one thing and say another while 100% believing her own lies.
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Fucking demolished. I think about this story a couple times a week. Fantastic update/closure.
barrel0monkeys 8y ago
This story doesn't think about you at all.
nuesuh 8y ago
I want the story back so bad, I just don't know what to do :(
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That's ok. Just read some headlines until Mr. story-right comes along.
-xanax- 8y ago
Awwww.... it's okay, you'll find a story that will make you happy one day
nuesuh 8y ago
I won't lie. I sobbed uncontrollably for hours in my apartment.
db0255 8y ago
It's ok, man. Remember, the story LIED to you.
UCISee 8y ago
The story found another user, it's being overly karma-Ed just to spite you.
nuesuh 8y ago
Yeah, i swear it was getting upvoted just to spite me! :(
UCISee 8y ago
It's okay, you left it because it was being dishonest, not because you're an unpleasable wench.
causeandcorrelation 8y ago
I think that we all need to understand that there is one special story for all of us. If we just be ourselves then that special story will one day come along.
ElementArrow 7y ago
This thread is fucking gold.
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killm3throwaway 8y ago
I got your madmen reference mate, dont worry.
johnnyfukinfootball 8y ago
Mad Men got that line from the Ayn Rand novel The Fountainhead.
bassivemalls 8y ago
I kind of wish the dude would spoil his new gf with jewelry and presents just to piss her off.
slay_it_forward 8y ago
How many times do you re-read it every day?
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At least 12. It was just an exceptionally great story demonstrating female entitlement. I get a kick out of it.
ddiogenesofsinope 8y ago
Women and guys see this story very differently.
Women think he's a dick for just leaving her because it comes across like she was a gold digger, when she is concerned that he is lazy.
Guys love him because it shows that a woman cannot just love a guy unconditionally. Theres always something that hes not doing to show he loves her.
You couldn't just love him for who he was. You had to try and change him. He lacked 'ambition' and all of those things you think makes a great man, when actually he could have loved you, and taken care of you and your spawn forever.
Truly women can't love unconditionally.
mikazee 8y ago
actually all the comments on 2x are calling her out. It's awesome.
bam2_89 8y ago
She left him. The women in the thread weren't even sympathetic.
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pfffft_comeon 8y ago
he is lazy. nothing changed. he has the ability to be lazy is the only difference. if she really hated the lazy characteristic, she would not regret her choice.
Jordainyo 8y ago
Great point. I mean, technically he is lazy. He could have been trying to achieve more. But he's cool with were he is and that's fine.
She wanted the lifestyle that comes with money, not the man.
HumanSockPuppet 8y ago
I remember reading her original story and feeling a smug sense of schadenfreud.
But now I just find it sad.
Yeah, she fucked up. She let her feelings of inadequacy get the better of her, and she dumped her ex thinking that money was all that mattered.
But how much of this attitude did she inherit from the sick over-feminized culture in which she grew up? In a society that mistakes pleasure for happiness, and money for fulfillment, how could a growing child know any different?
We certainly didn't, until it hit us hard enough to hurt.
This is the role that masculinity serves in society. It keeps us focused on what is important, and steers us away from what is frivolous. It keeps women entranced and disciplined, and gives shape to their lives so they do not feel lost or purposeless.
To live a masculine life is to pursue the maximization of your happiness. Plain and simple. There can be NO happiness for anyone if men are not happy first.
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Alphaspire 8y ago
I agree.
I also think her original response seems to make sense. She wanted a life where her BB provided her with the traditional "american dream". He was not going to be that man, so she needed to find another.
She laments the fact that he could have been the ultimate provider even more due to the fact that she loved the other characteristics he brought to the table. She couldn't break him into the provider she wanted, and he was basically the best case scenario for her if she had been able to.
HumanSockPuppet 8y ago
Exactly. +1
Her delusion - her illness - was in approaching the situation with entitlements (he owes me) rather than incentives (how can I inspire his loyalty and protective instinct?).
Had she been inoculated from developing a poisonous entitlement complex, she might still be with this guy, and the two of them could be working to make one another happy.
I don't want to see anyone lose if everyone can win.
yomo86 8y ago
The American dream. While it meant to achive what you can do and live life like you wanted it changed into a white picket fence, ever smiling children and a housewife with all the kitchen gadgets one could ever dream of. While daddy is a former staff sarge who killed a lot of krauts fucking her good at night and functions like a well oiled machine and shielding little miss sunshine from all the real world monsters ie mortage payments, the IRS, wage cuts, lay-offs, student loans.
fuckeh 8y ago
He's going to burn through a dozen girls like her before he settles down, if he even does. He's a rich and likeable guy that thinks for himself.
She probably never had a chance.
RedPillOdin 8y ago
Funny how the exact opposite is preached in BP media. "Happy wife, happy life" anyone?
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HumanSockPuppet 8y ago
The Red Pill teaches the opposite: "Happy life, happy wife."
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spacecowboyreturns 8y ago
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HumanSockPuppet 8y ago
The only reason Red Pill Women exists is because men created The Red Pill first, and then women said "Hey, let's do something like that too!"
No. Women will not lead the charge on anything. They never do. Women follow. That is their nature.
Being the best we can be to those who matter to us is the ONLY thing men can do.
We cannot build a movement and save society, because that is precisely the self-sacrificing-gone-haywire that got us into this mess in the first place. If this toxic environment is ever to reverse itself at the grand scale, it must happen as the result of changes made at the individual scale. That is as much control as any of us have over the matter.
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bluedrygrass 8y ago
Truly. And i have a lot of doubts a woman can ever really be rep pilled outside of peronal interests and aims (=she's ugly; she's been burned in the past; she hates competition; etc. etc)
Most of the posts i've read in the redpillwomen sub, they sounded like parrots trying to say things to make certain demographics happy, not because they really grasped or believed in their words.
Awalt, awalt, awalt.
did you know autism is more difficult to diagnose in females, because even in their autistic state they try harder to integrate and look normal in the society? They're like Blade Runner's replicants. Aliens trying to assimilate.
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Agree. Whenever I saw that subreddit I just saw whores trying to become wives. Women just hate to be excluded. Women cant even let men have TRP to themselves.
dr_warlock 8y ago
Just watched the documentary, "Surviving Progress" on netflix. Highly recommend.
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TLDW: humans are becoming so successful, it's leading to their demise. Economics doesnt factor in the natural order of the earth. History is repeating itself.
pfffft_comeon 8y ago
best part is that nothing changed about the guy. he still had/has no ambition as she defined it. he's still a "loser" in her eyes, but now a loser with money.
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Cristoff13 8y ago
"Borrow". Heh. At least she could have had the honesty to just ask you to give her the 50k, because of course she never had the slightest intention of paying it back.
Origami84 8y ago
That was risky. I hope you didnt trust her to use a pill or something.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
She dropped you straight into the BB category and treated you accordingly.
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
She immediately slotted you into the 'Beta Bux' category, and as we all know, betas get transactional sex (not validational sex), and she was mad that you didn't fulfill your part of the transaction, you shitlord.
nothere_ 8y ago
She splurged on an Audi SUV landbarge,no wonder shes bad with money
RaptorFalcon 8y ago
Fuck yes. I own a house (second one, sold the first), I have 3 cars, my bank account has 5 figures, and my investments have 6.
I tell women none of what I have. They can get an idea from two of my cars, if they see them... But from my age they usually assume loans, debt, etc.... I don't correct that assumption. My money is none of their business.
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Big_Daddy_PDX 8y ago
Ok, I'll put myself out here. Can you help me get over my insecurity about driving older cars as opposed to brand new ones? Cars are my hobby and I like odd ones and I do almost all of my Odense maintenance and performance work. I've got 25yr old Saab as a daily driver because I enjoy it and it's reliable - but most importantly it's free. I don't have confidence issues elsewhere, but right now as I prepare to go through w/ a divorce, I feel a huge hit to my confidence at driving girls in my old car as if the car is somehow an indicator of my value.
Thoughts on how I can stop being such a bitch about this?
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Just own it, like SoTired said. If you act like it's the best car around she'll eventually agree
phibetared 8y ago
You can do all the maintenance? The guys with Lambo's don't know how to do shit. Which is more "manly", being able to fix your own car or having to be screwed over by the dealer to get your oil changed?
I live in a major city, don't have a car here (the car I do have is in storage, and it's the 2nd coolest car in the world, behind a Talbot Lago)... your car (or lack of) doesn't need to be important. In fact, I'd ask the girl over to help you change the oil, etc.. Use it to your advantage. When she sees you lying under the car, fixing stuff, she'll be impressed. Then throw her on the hood and bang her. I'd never throw the girl on my hood 'cause it might scratch the paint.
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Big_Daddy_PDX 8y ago
All valid points, I appreciate your perspective and it will help me. Odd how it doesn't bother me when I'm with friends and other car guys, but it does bother me around girls or strangers.
Your suggestion of a newer car is relevant as well as I'm nearing 300K miles on this 9000 Aero. Probably move up to a slightly newer car and get into an E38 7 series.
HumanSockPuppet 8y ago
Do you feel embarrassed about ordering your favourite food in front of other people at a restaurant?
Do you feel ashamed about going to see a movie that you like?
If not, then why should driving a car that you like be any different? It's about YOUR happiness and no one else's.
Big_Daddy_PDX 8y ago
All really good points. I'll use these to shape my internal perspective. Thank you.
Entropy-7 8y ago
I read a story, that might be apocryphal, about a guy who as a PUA ruse created fake bank statements and left them on his kitchen table or something but not completely out in open so that someone would have to "snoop" to actually read them. Then when he is on a date with a girl he makes an excuse early on to stop by his apartment to get something from his bedroom.
When they get there he leaves the girl alone for a few minutes while he "searches for" his "other wallet" or something. Invariably the girl snoops, reads the bank statements and gets the impression that he is loaded. So now she is wet before they even head out to dinner or the club or whatever; the evening rocks; he bangs her silly; and then he soft nexts her.
Another story I came across which is more credible is that feminists are trying to have men charged with rape if they lie about their job or income (in this case, saying they earn more or have more prestige than they actually do).
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pfffft_comeon 8y ago
i've been raped over and over by girls with high heels, makeup, pushup bras, spanx, and preying on me when i'm drunk and have beer goggles. these girl lie about their smv every time they leave the house.
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
Very unlikely. More likely is that she holds out on him - lots of ASD type LMR - in hopes of a LTR. When they don't view you as LTR material, they bang you right away.
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"i had sex with you because I thought you were rich. Turns out youre not, so youre not really the person I thought I was sleeping with. So technically you raped me" ^female logic.
Newbosterone 8y ago
But flip the genders and watch the hamster scurrying:
"i had sex with you because you said you were on the pill. Turns out youre not, so you're not really the person I thought I was sleeping with. So technically you raped me"
"i had sex with you because you said 'I've never done this sort of thing before'. Turns out you do this every week, so you're not really the person I thought I was sleeping with. So technically you raped me"
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well it's the guy she thought he was who had sex with her so technically that's the guy she needs to charge. The guy who doesn't exist.
mikazee 8y ago
I'm totally cool with rape by deception as long as it goes both ways.
She lies about being on he pill? Rape.
She lies about her n-count? Rape.
Says she was a virgin? Rape.
Just bring this up next time someone says they think rape by deception is a valid concept and watch the hamster make the jump to hyperdrive.
Entropy-7 8y ago
But it never goes both ways. If a girl is drunk, that is no excuse to rape her; if a guy is drunk that is no excuse for him to rape her.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
A man should not be charged if he cannot consent to raping somebody. He is drunk, and has no accountability.
Entropy-7 8y ago
There was the R. v. Deviault case in Canada back in 1994 where the Supreme Court found 6-3 that extreme intoxication to the point of automatism could be asserted as an affirmative defense (the accused had to prove it on the balance of probabilities). Parliament quickly plugged that hole, but the questions still remains if that fix could itself survive a constitutional challenge.
In general, getting drunk won't get you off the hook although it can result in reduced charges in some cases.
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Fucking hell, 800k. That's an achievement right there bro. I'm on 60k a year and trying to invest 50% of my pay. Live in a old apartment and drive a shit malaysian brand car. Other guys at work are in brand new apartments and drive Subaru WRX STi's.
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living comfortably now vs living comfortably in the future. Future usually pays off a shit ton.
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massivewang 8y ago
Keep it up brother. It's a long game just like TRP and self improvement.
I'm at 150k, I'm hoping to be at 1 million + in 10 years depending on how my investments go etc.
It's a long game and it's hard, but it's worth it.
BEAVERWARRIORFTW 8y ago
Aren't WRX's kids cars? I saying this as a kid just for reference (18), but to me STI's have always been the cars that a kid (under 25) would want to buy a drive. I couldn't really see owning one as you approach 30. That being said, maybe by whole opinion on car's is a little screwed.
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Yeah, they are. Most of the guys drive newer WRX's which usually cost upwards of $30k. $45k even. Most are in their 20s though.
I'd never buy one haha, only because they're too common.
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Fast little rice burner. Fun car.
james-watson 8y ago
The WRX is best dollar/performance car money can buy. If you're a kid whose into WRXs, you're a kid with good tastes.
STi's are a waste cause of that crappy old engine though. Stick with the new WRX.
And by the way kiddo, the beauty of being a man who isn't BP is doing whatever the fuck you want. Jealous dudes and old women say all sorts of shit, like guys with Ferrari's have small dicks. Just a case of sour grapes, cause they couldn't get that little Ferrari dick for themselves.
BEAVERWARRIORFTW 8y ago
Ahhh okay I see. I've always been really into JDM cars, especially during highschool, and i did do some research on them. However I'm also aware that i should question the validity of any ideas I formed in highschool, because when your a dumb kid in highschool, the only people you have to debate with are other dumb kids in highschool. That's good to know though. How does the WRX compare to something like the 370Z if you don't mind me asking, both in straight performance, and value? I've ways personally been a Nissan a small Nissan fanboy.
Aha thanks you for that! I'm quite new to the community here, and I'm still trying to get a handle on the whole red pill mentality. Quite honestly though, given who I am I think going red pill is kind of just the next stage in my growth to manhood. That being said I do have some personal reservations with the community. I, like many people who visit this sub, initially see a bunch of guys who just straight out hate woman. However, although that may be true for a group of people who visit this sub, I don't believe it's true at all for the majority of this subs viewers, nor does the actual notion of just hating woman seem to fit into the actual ideas and philosophy of the trp. The think I like about this sub is the constant debate, no matter what anyone says someone else we'll disagree, allowing you to basically always see both sides or any circumstance. So for every guy being vehemently aggressive, their well be someone saying, "hey bro, don't waste your time being so bitter". I'm sorry, I don't what I'm trying to say anymore. I suppose my point was the TRP is not what the reddit wants you to believe it is, and is actually a good place to help young men become better, but it may also have its own shortcomings, as to be expected of any community? Anyways sorry for the rant aha, as a young guy coming into this, it's all a little confusing.
Thanks for you time.
james-watson 8y ago
I can already tell from your writing and thought process that you're a smart kid. Being skeptical of anything you read is very important, as there's infinite amounts of garbage floating about on the internet.
I've been part of the manosphere for the better part of the last decade, and trust me, it has absolutely nothing to do with hating women. If you read through the sidebar, you'll see we even have a term for angry guys: Anger phase. This is the phase that most guys hit after realizing that society has lied to them, and abused their goodwill. The problem is the damage to the individual man is very real, and will rightly cause massive amounts of anger. For example, think of a man who married a woman who swore undying love to him who suddenly finds out that she's cheated on him and wants a divorce. He then loses his kids, his home, and everything he's worked for in the past decade. Or, for a case closer to your situation, a student who has a drunken hookup in college, only to find out he's been accused of rape by the girl who regrets having a one night stand. In both these cases, there is no sympathy for the male, and he will suffer massive consequences in his life due to no fault of his own.
The core of RedPill is understanding how men and women interact, and how variations of policy and culture can incentivize constructive or destructive behavior. In the west, we have been vilifying masculinity for the past 50 odd years since the sexual revolution, so it's to be expected that we've arrived here. The most fascinating part about all this, is that the current system actually hurts women the most, because it is they who ultimately lose out on a fulfilling life. We men are durable, and we're designed to take emotional and physical punishment. Our ancestors survived far worse, so as long as we band together and understand our environment and exert effort, we will succeed.
On a less philosophical point, the science behind human behavior is absolutely fascinating, and underpins all of RP. I actually discovered the fundamentals of RP before this sub existed by reading a few key books on evolution, which elegantly explained everything that forms the foundation of RP philosophy. I'd recommend reading The Selfish Gene and The Red Queen to start if you're interested in the science behind RP. It's quite a fascinating subject.
And finally regarding cars, the choice you have to make is RWD vs AWD. RWD is more fun, cheaper, lighter and will teach you a lot about driving at the expense of overall performance. AWD though, is faster all things considered, but heavier.
The 370Z and the BRZ are both great RWD cars. The BRZ is cheaper I believe, and lighter, but less powerful. The WRX is more convenient with four doors, and better in winter weather.
My advice: go with whatever you can afford and whatever you'll have the most fun in. Test drive both once you're close to making the call and you'll know.
For me though, cars are just fun toys. My real passion is motorcycle racing on closed tracks. This sport teaches you more about being a man than anything else. Just don't ever ride on the road.
Good luck and have fun
Rodion-Raskolnikov 8y ago
Holy fuck that is some warp-speed hamstering. I've seen a similar scenario play out years ago when a former female friend ran into her ex-boyfriend (who had she dumped some years earlier for 'reasons' etc.) at a party accompanied by his hotter, younger and more talented new girlfriend. Much later, her sobs came from the darkest well of misery I've ever seen a woman drown in. Genuine howls of pain that lasted for hours. The 'pathetic beta chump' she had wantonly chucked was now a successful and handsome alpha. The only way her female friends could comfort her was to call the new girlfriend every spiteful name under the sun and make up slanderous stories about her. Oh, and the ex-boyfriend? That asshole "never appreciated what he once had". The guys in the room looked at each other and WE ALL KNEW...
rhettbutler-rpaf 8y ago
I reviewed the original story and was hoping for a link to the original post by the woman. I want to read the comments. Will you post the link?
ThatSteveGuy33 8y ago
I never forgot this story, I'm glad to read an update on them. She really fucked up hard and tried to redirect blame on him. Now she's begging for sympathy while Will never even gives her a second thought.
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allnamesfckintaken 8y ago
this story is the fucking funniest shit. she broke up with him because she thought he was a loser. absolutely nothing has changed about him genetically other than the fact that he's inherited millions. now she loves him so much.
foldpak111 8y ago
If you aren't an heir to a fortune, she'll resent you. Good thing I don't give a shit.
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Another happy ending.
This one is better than "It's a Wonderful Life".
TankVet 8y ago
Important to notice how this story changed. Before she dumped him because he had no professional ambition. Now they broke up because of his dishonesty. Whoops, nice little adjustment to better fit the facts after the fact. I loathe people like this.
The first version of this story was pretty different than today's account. She's actually twisted her own version of the facts to better justify her actions. This is a great find.
Always-Ask-Questions 8y ago
I didn't see the original post, so tried to track it down there (deleted now) but a of couple her comments are still on. Wow.
She tries to justify it by saying she thought he was living wage to wage (as a musician) and that she wanted a family, so that wouldn't work - a fair point. However*, I'd imagine if he was on the same page as her (i.e. that serious) money would have come up at some point. Even not disclosing how much but being like "I can support a family without giving up music" or whatever. Then she goes on about not wanting "pampered" and its just about marriage/family some day...but then says if she was the one with money she would want to buy him things. So...you want him to buy things for you then, yeah?
Edit: * a fair point if it was a small paycheck, barely covering his needs.
TankVet 8y ago
Well, the argument gets a little post hoc ergo propter hoc. She doesn't know that he's been dishonest until after she dumps him. They didn't break up, she ended it. He didn't throw it away, she did. And she uses his omission for justification after the fact.
Now that she regrets it, the blame is transferred to him. Dude is still doing his thing, she's just upset because she blew it.
Always-Ask-Questions 8y ago
Yeah, I've been linked the original post now, so that helps a lot! Obviously before I could only go on bits posted here and her comments. But even her remaining comments alone were ridiculous - effectively, "I don't want to be pampered but people with money like to do nice things for people they care about, I'd do it for him (so he should for me)."
I see now that they hadn't been together that long though, which makes sense in that he kept his money quiet - she was probably the only one thinking about funding family at that time (or at least thinking about it enough as an excuse to use later...). Her original post is as bad as those comments though, as I can see now!
Schrodingersdawg 8y ago
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Always-Ask-Questions 8y ago
Thank you! That was...wow, just something else!
razgrim 8y ago
Hah, the great story gets better.
jmg83 8y ago
I remember the original. I don't know whether this is real (it really is just too good.) but if it is, this woman has a ridiculous sense of entitlement. She doesn't even see that she's in the wrong. Hell, she finished it, and then expects him to cave first and call her? Was she hoping he'd be distraught by the break-up, a complete and utter wreck? If he was, and phoned her, begging to get back together, I bet she'd have said no, and acted like he was a loser.
If this Will had been upfront about his finances from the beginning, I bet that this bitch would have "accidentally" got pregnant. Women, are nothing if not practical. She herself says that she's "a 26 year old woman who needs to be pragmatic". That's milk straight from the cow's udders right there. We get to the meat of the post when she says that surely a man with a disposable income would be only too glad to treat his woman? That's what this is all about, material stuff. She wants to spend this guy's dead grandfather's money on a load of shit that he neither wants nor needs. This Will person sounds a lot like me, but with money. To me, money isn't simply something to buy fancy cars, clothes, etc. It's peace of mind. Knowing that I can go to a movie, or buy a few beers without having to worry about whether or not I'm good for the month's rent.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
A great example of:
Men desire Freedom, Women desire Access
...as long as the girl thought there was nothing to gain Access to she was lukewarm about this guy who maintained his Freedom and secrecy.
Once the secret is revealed she desires Access.
Women don't really love things they can have.
...but another lesson is that the guy was unable to establish masculine polarity over the woman without falling back on material things like his Bucks. That's not good. If the woman dumped him then that's doing him a favor.
In the long run a LTR demands masculine polarity without the Bucks.
Don't forget Divorce Rape and Child Support... all the Bucks in the world do no good with the laws being what they are these days.
Child Support Laws weren't even invented until 1950.
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That's because welfare and social security had just started. It wasn't fair for the rest of the taxpayers to pay for someone else's kid. Wear a condom if you don't want to pay for your own child. The rest of us don't want to pay for YOUR kid either.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
Well, the state should just not get involved with family affairs.
If you ban Child Support like it was before 1950 (it was illegal because of Old English Law) then a woman must be careful about who she has sex with.
neveragoodtime 8y ago
The premise of the law forgets that men do pay for their children. Just not as much as the woman wants him to. Imagine the government going into a married man's house and telling him that he made so much money he was required to buy his child the brand named sneakers, not the generic knock offs. The father is being told he must spend $X on his children, that they are entitled to it even if he is trying to protect them from being spoiled. Add to that the fact that he's not allowed to spank his children for acting spoiled, and that's how we get a generation of entitled spoiled children.
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I don't give a shit one way or the other. I'm just pointing out that the support laws started once welfare started paying for children of unmarried mothers.
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Is this the one that ended the relationship because she wanted to buy a house and he was just cool jamming on his guitar and living meekly while letting ample oil residuals come in? Because she didn't break up with him for 'lying', she broke up with him because she thought he 'lacked ambition'. It's amazing how the mind re-writes history like that.
And not discussing your finances is 'lying'? Really? Since when? I was of the impression that it was socially rude to ask people about money, and that it was up to them if they wanted to talk about it.
WTF?
burrbabe789 8y ago
He is an alpha, he lives under his means.. If you live under your means with no debt and money saved, you are truly free. The peace of mind that I have with my savings and no debt is amazing. I don't have to stick with my job, I could leave at any time and be secure for 9 months. The freedom is what is valuable to me.
Yeah I could have a fancy car and way nicer things, but if you flaunt your money you will only attract the wrong kind of people in your life. Plus the materialism in our culture is something I cannot stand, however that is just my view point and if it is your money do what you want, to each their own.
Dave Ramsey's total money make over is the financial philosophy that makes the most sense for myself. I would recommend reading this book if you are interested.
From my experience the people with real money hide it, the people who flaunt it are usually doing it just for show. They are most likely in a lot of debt and a few payments away from losing it.
TRPtruth 8y ago
She will find her Beta Bux after fucking some more Tinder strange cock to get alpha off her mind. She'll settle down and marry, and one day she will bump into alpha again, he'll flood her panties and maybe fuck her, and it will all be BB's fault.
Remember gents, it's never her fault.
indeydius 8y ago
There's an important theory conversation we can have about this. People are saying that she was 'alpha widowed' but he hid money from her so theory says the attraction was 'beta bux.' Now, just as I wrote this, I realized my error. He was with her without her having any idea of his money. He alpha-ed her. When she realized he had money he double-alpha-ed her. Therefore, widow.
Agree?
SkorchZang 8y ago
"Will, you're not good enough for me, you don't have the kind of money I like. Goodbye, Will."
"Bye sweetie. Btw, I'm sitting on a few mil in oil investment money."
"What?! How dare you hide that from ME? Will? WILLLLLL..."
This wasn't a case of Alpha vs Beta, it was just a clever man vs. a basic bitch, with all the delicious heartrending results we've come to expect from such a match.
She is great fun like most girls... In that she looks at a man and sees only what's in it for her. You don't understand the first of it, if you're a man. They're living in a different world. It's like a teeming pool of she-sharks, and it's a free for all, who can grab the most manmeat for herself. Plus all the other sharks WILL gossip about you.
WeedDaddy 8y ago
Her situation is like having the winning lottery ticket but throwing it in the trash and learning about it afterwards. Missing the chance of a lifetime.
I believe a woman feels a multimillionaire to be alpha initially, her prejudice gives him alpha credit, which the millionaire can squander though and change the woman's perception.
The typical betabux is only "well-off", having lower end 6-fig income, which can only give comfort, whereas an opulent lifestyle can provide real tingles without game if the man can set boundaries ("hold frame").
DeltaRecon2552 8y ago
I was thinking it was alpha... then alpha bux.
unicorn-carousel 8y ago
I think you're on track. I can't remember the details of the original story so I don't know if he's 'alpha' or 'beta' or what. My first instinct is that she's tingling for provider though. But in reality he's not using his money to try to be her provider, so got an alpha trait at least. Potentially alpha bucks because he didn't give a fuck when she dumped him or try to buy her love. Again though, I don't know how the rest of their relationship was, simply speculation.
NAmember81 8y ago
From the last story he sounded alpha because she mentioned something like bitching to him about his ambition and how playing the guitar isn't a real job and she told him she was leaving and "he acted like he didn't care" and that really pissed her off.
So he was probably like "as you wish, there's the door, bye".
This story is almost to good to be true. I hope it's not a long con troll.
unicorn-carousel 8y ago
Are long con trolls a thing? Jesus, Internet. I thought you'd make the world awesome when I was a kid. Now I kinda wish you'd go away, like for real. Anyway, thanks for the follow up!
railatx 8y ago
I'm shocked she didn't try to meddle with the new pussy which is usually a woman's 2nd reaction.
penworth 8y ago
Thread music. You might want to lower the volume if you have some earphones on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1qXQRpF08E
Drenmar 8y ago
So this is how "changing history in her mind" works. Women are incredible.
SACRlion 8y ago
Now I want to read the original story.
Any help?
Schrodingersdawg 8y ago
go to the "top all time" and ctrl-f "oil". I posted it :)
vandaalen 8y ago
Read the comments here. It's hidden in there.
Schrodingersdawg 8y ago
go to the "top all time" and ctrl-f "oil". I originally posted it :)
MAX_Fury 8y ago
its under my submitted posts
SACRlion 8y ago
Found it, thanks.
I don't know what's better, her trying to text/establish FwB relationship with him after they broke up, or her trying to justify to his friends why she broke up with him.
I do love the fact that after her shit test blew up in her face, she's the victim. Classic.
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Spiral-knight 8y ago
She misses his money and the act that she was close enough to Taste it without ever knowing it was there for the taking causes her a near-physical pain.
Alphaspire 8y ago
According to her posts, she was texting him and trying to get back with him before she found out about the money. It just hit a lot harder when she found out about it.
This is probably due in part to how she said he didn't emotionally respond when she broke up with him. He just calmly replied "fine by me" and slammed the door behind her after refusing a goodbye hug.
This was a nuclear shit test and an attempt to mold him into her BB. He passed the test with flying colors, earning her respect. Then he is found to be loaded, earning even more respect. Unfortunately for her, her ST went too far for him and he was done with her.
Hibria 8y ago
Will, will seem like a dude I'd have a beer with. Good on you will, let's have a brewski.
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Whenever this story is posted, I feel it's necessary to bring up that her leaving him was totally valid. The guy seemed like a fucking chump.
The OMG he's rich what did I do hamstering is hilarious though, obviously.
SigmaPUA_111 8y ago
It's like the oneitis I used to have, only 5x harder. So when you figure your old oneitises were immature, hers are 5x more immature.
Lildoc_911 8y ago
This is the same girl that got upset with the man not disclosing his financial status to her?
TheRedThrowAwayPill 8y ago
You need to become a 2nd wife. It's your only chance.
JohnnySkidmarx 8y ago
Haha, I love these stories. Keep them coming please!
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What the fuck was 'he LIED to me'. What the fuck does it mean? What exactly did he do to her? If he lied to her then he probably lied about something. Like what? He may had another family, that's understandable. Or maybe he lied to her about his job - in real life he turned out to be a crazy rapist who attacking women, raping them and then rob them. I don't know - and she is probably still sexually attracted to him because he was ok for her except he LIED about something and we would never know about what exactly. So Fuck Her, that's my opinion.
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ysashka 8y ago
Holy shit, I remember this story all too well. Probably one of my favorites from this sub. Every once in a while it'll pop up in my mind and I'll have a good chuckle. Good on Will.
bigmikevegas 8y ago
Hahaha get fucked you whore.
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DerpPhilip 8y ago
I remember this. The way she re-manufactured a completely fictional version of what happened between them the first time, and evidently seems to genuinely believe it is borderline sociopathic.
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Spurnout 8y ago
What a delusional and psychotic person.
tedcase 8y ago
Ah, I remember the original post from way back. It warmed my cold dead heart and I have been resolved to be a Will myself in the future.
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Schrodingersdawg 8y ago
go to the "top all time" and ctrl-f "oil". I originally posted it :)
MAX_Fury 8y ago
you can find it under my submitted posts
gggkin 8y ago
It's weird but I feel an urge to fap after reading this.
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Gives me a boner of justice too.
polyethene 8y ago
That is weird but interesting how you posted it anyway lol :p
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Crimsonwind85 8y ago
Can someone provide the original source for this and the second post of it?