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whytehorse2021 10mo ago
The Wall is mostly psychological. It's the moment that women realize they can't compete with their younger self. It kicks in when they stop getting attention from the men they used to be able to attract. All men find women most attractive around age 24. It then starts declining around age 28-30 and the Chads will no longer pump and dump them.
Most women notice this drop off around age 30 because most men set their filters to cut off women over 30. So I would say it's probably 30 for most women. However, nobody wants a 23yr old single mom so her Wall would be the moment she got knocked up. Similar with party girls that don't take care of themselves.
Seagram7 10mo ago
I think it was you that posted that women go through different Walls. There is obviosity the looks Wall like this post where the older she gets the less prettier she becomes. That Wall isn't age dependent as we know there are hot 30+ year old's and girls like her that look hideous at 26.
Then there is the actual turning age 30 Wall. As in the first digit in your age starts with a 3 and there is no escaping that. You are not in your 20's anymore and you are no longer a young 20 something girl. With that is also the knowledge of the realities of biology that you have a finite time left to successfully carry and birth a child. Plus now you are painfully aware of the next crop of 20 something girls that you are now in competition with.
Then there is the late 30s to late 40s Wall where your chances of having kids are long gone and if you do manage to get knocked up you are in a high risk pregnancy category. But for the most part, your biological clock has tick off and along with that attracting High value men or most men that want hot girls who are sexually attractive because of youth and fertility.
Finally there is "I made a bad lifestyle choice" Wall where as hot as she looks, no decent man wants to wife up a single mother, a porn star, a girl that did a gangbang, etc.
whytehorse2021 10mo ago
Yeah and here's the funny thing: they keep coming up with rationalizations. I watched my aunt go through all the various stages and my grandmothers the late stages. Women create these echo chambers where they lose touch with reality. They become more and more insufferable as they get older. As their SMV goes down, their demands go up. Nowadays they're marrying themselves just so they can have a wedding. Spending time with my aunt, mom, and grandma was awful. I'd just watch TV and pet their cats.
Corporations have these ladies pegged too. Entire research articles on the economics of it and how to profit from it from cradle to grave. It's nice to see men waking up and turning their backs on these women. Post-wall women used to be able to get with a less desirable man their age but now the guys just go abroad and get way better.
Seagram7 11mo ago
Drugs, cigarettes, booze, lack of exercise, Excessive sun tanning, pick your poison. That said lack of exercise seems like a big one to me, it’s a great way to speed up aging and even women who aren’t fat act like it’s a death sentence to do more than climb on a treadmill for an hour once in a blue moon. It's also caffeine addiction which causes a HUGE array of effects (including dehydration), some of which cause premature aging and negative changes in appearance especially for women. That drug is very harmful in the amounts that the average roastie drinks in their daily, or even twice daily Starbucks drink. Not every day. Combined with a poor diet the effects are even worse.
Bozza 11mo ago
I'm only late 20s and the amount of people (both men and women) I know who've aged horrendously is staggering.
They're all fat, their skin is fucked, always complaining about health problems.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 11mo ago
These plus sun exposure deplete whatever small antioxidants and essential Omega oils her also poor diet provides. The wrinkles and bad skin are oxidation/free radical damage.
Seagram7 11mo ago
I am from a part of the country where the Beach is a way of life and Sun worshiping with that year around tan. We invented the stereotype of the blonde beach bunny surfer girl. Those cute little blondes at the beach in their early 20's look beat the fuck out by their 30's. Yes the many late nights drinking and partying didnt help, but being in the sun has really aged them that they look like sea hags without makeup.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 11mo ago
Mod comment: Post is a question, should be in askTRP forum tribe. You don't need to move post but keep in mind for future
User comment: To answer your question though, kind of depends, especially in my state. A lot of women hit the wall at 32.
I've seen a girl hit the wall at literally 14 before when I was in a hospital once.
She was an extreme druggy with absolutely horrendous PTSD (she told me about what she saw)
I mean dear god she looked 25-30. Wall at 14, I'm not exaggerating
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Durek_The_Bald 11mo ago
Different contexts though. On the left, she's just chilling out, taking her time to pose for the camera. On the right, dude quickly took a snap shot of her face as she was taking a slightly too big dick up her ass. Clearly.
MidgetSpinner 11mo ago
She certainly hasn't hit the wall, lmao. It's not the most flattering photo, but I would still hit it. She's obviously been through some shit in those 2 years though.
Lone_Ranger 1 11mo ago
The wall is about much more than how a woman looks.
I met a woman who was wonderful, and she was 41. She was charming, beautiful, sensual. She had class and style. She had 2 children from a previous marriage. She had a very low body count, a fantastic body, not a single body modification, wore no make up. She was educated, well read, polite, well mannered, traditional. She was also very fun to be around, a real romantic. She played the classical guitar at professional grade and had a beautiful voice even when talking. Never argued, never challenged me, no shit tests. The sex was wonderful, almost spiritual. She also came very easily, which is favourite of mine.
And I've also met a woman who was completely washed up at 23. But covered in tattoos (full sleeves and all over her body) and body mods. 1000 cock stare. I took the deal because I was 44 at the time, and newly divorced. But I realise now just how far post wall she was. She used to rub her clit while we had sex, which is my least favourite thing of all time. Imagine a woman that needs to masturbate WHILE you are having sex in order to come. Its a real insult. She couldn't get off from romantic sex, she wanted to be degraded and abused.
The wall isn't really age related. Its lifestyle related. The hoe life is massively aging. If a young woman has a high body count at 20, she may already be broken.