I remember one topic linked here from /r/short, by a woman telling them she's "ready to face her demons", she never liked short guys but will try to date them now.

She was 31.

My most vicious critic was a 6'1" gay guy!

Because of course, he knows exactly what dating is like for a short straight guy, right?

The internet has a way of amplifying insecurity. You're too short! Your dick is tiny! You're ugly!

For fuck's sake, log off and go outside.

As a short guy, I would never join r/short it just seems depressing and why rant about something you can't control. Avoid too much of the victim mindset.

"RP men think they are entitled to women's bodies" this makes no sense to me as about 50% of the material here is about working hard as fuck to raise your SMV

I'm short and confidently one of the biggest losers to ever have grazed this subreddit. But damn has the red pill changed my life big-time. And even if I would for some reason not be successful with women and have to resort to prostitutes? I will still have self respect, mannerisms and behaviour that shot my self respect but furthermore I won't be played for a sap by manipulative, dishonest women.

Isn't that worth something? Even if you don't score some poosi? Methinks so. I've made a turn in my life to chew bubble gum and kick arse.

I was on that thread and upvoted your sensible arguments, but the problem was you. You used an approach that didn't work as it wasn't suitable for the audience. None of them knew what The Red Pill really is, all they knew is that it must be bad because people say nasty things about it. They weren't willing or able to listen, nor to consider the possibility that The Red Pill isn't what they think it is. When you are dealing with the close-minded you need to use different approaches to obtain success than you would with the open-minded.

Perhaps a debate about some of the concepts surrounding women seeking status and confidence projecting status would have been a better place to start than showing your cards right at the start? Once you've won the argument, then is the time to reveal the cards. Revealing them too early meant that they closed down the debate before the argument could be had. Lesson learned and a good example of how Red Pill concepts sometimes apply more widely than to just the sexual marketplace. Still, kudos to you for trying to help out some people who clearly seriously need help.

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The term "entitled" is just another thought terminating cliche. It presupposes to know what's in the hearts of others and then criticizes them for it. Much like misogyny, only those experiencing such preferences or emotions are at liberty to decide if they would describe themselves that way. It is not up to others to know if I hate women or if I feel entitled to anything. If I do, that's for me to say, and nobody else.

So anybody making that charge is logically wrong and is doing so for another reason. Power talk.

Notice how anyone can post a pro female sub that actually demonizes men and it will be allowed, but you put men in a direction that will actually help them and you are shut down.

you seriously though that would go over well there? On the front page is a post titled "How does feminism affect the short man" and the top comment talks about the "myth of masculinity".

what about r/notsupershortortallslightlybelowaverage

it's weird being around 5'8-5'9ish maybe slightly more or less depending on footwear.

It gets to me occasionally now but used to so much more before TRP. It just seems with heels and even without heels women are getting taller and taller and men shorter and shorter. Probably the food and water with all those chemicals, but who knows maybe its just in my head.

Why does reddit always say we promote rape?

Being only 5 feet tall, I though that r/short would have other guys around my height who were successful. Instead, I got mostly trolls and bluepill advice. I found TheRedPill to be more informative

The subreddit is funny to look at whenever a short girl complains about her relationship problems. They will all tell her she doesn't know what it's like being short and a guy at the same time.

You probably shouldn't be be trying to spread anything RP related to random people. It's an almost guaranteed poor reaction on this site, better off letting them find it themselves.

Can't fight the tide. When I was new on here, I linked it a couple times to some men who really needed it from places like SocialAnxiety. It didn't go terribly, but I always got a couple of "No, don't go there" comments.

This place is really vilified, it's really curious as few know what it is. Now I've changed to just recommending Models and No More Mr Nice Guy. If the guy replies or wants more info, sometimes I'll PM Book of Pook, stuff from the Required Reading here, or just a link here.

Good on you for trying to help people, this place is really eye-opening and helpful for a ton of us and we obviously think more men should know it, but we've got to spread the info surreptitiously.

Although I'm just average height in my country, blaming height your woes with women is a load of bullshit.

Most of the best naturals that I know are under 5'9. These are guys that play multiple instruments, fly planes, are skilled in MMA and are otherwise high value men in a lot of ways.

If you're high value enough, height doesn't matter. You can say the same about a lot of other things too.

they are deadset morons, i like how their arguments are its all rape and drugging FAQS, please link me to one thread on trp that actually has guides or promotes any of that stuff.

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Experience is something you gain the moment after you need it. Females have a propensity to value the tall male. Even if he's a dork. No offense to you dorks out there. But the Fonzi character from Happy Days is pure fiction. So I say it is what it is. Don't waste your time in the US, move to Asia where the short guy either fits right in or seems tall over there. Otherwise from my experience whether you have a girl or not, ultimately they'll leave you for the tall guy. Divorce court sucks. It is what it is. We males have our ideal female in mind as well. Right? So accept it. It's evolutionary. Just remember the smallest of mammals survived the ice ages, meteor strikes and famines.

I don't see what's wrong with the Elliot Rodgers comparison. If you read "Michael's Story" in the sidebar it's very similar to what Rodgers was saying and writing about.

I just saw your /r/short post through your history, holy shit man.