Beta leaves his job, family, and friends behind to move across the country with his fiance because she has a new job. She breaks up with him around a month later and tells him that she's having the new guy from her new job over their place for Valentine's Day and that the beta needs to get out.
Here's what you do: find who the guy is. Text from your phone "hey it's [gf], got a new phone. Meet me at my place 30 minutes early."
Tell the girl: "sure honey, I'll leave, just let me know 20 minutes ahead of time"
She'll be getting ready to greet him, while she's getting ready you slip into a leather daddy outfit. Ding dong. Open the door and tell him the safe word is Nebraska, ask if he's ever been a gimp before.
Then you call every stripper in the tri county area and get them over to the house and pay them using your now ex girlfriend's shoe and jewelry collection.
Or you could learn game, not supplicate and next the females who aren't worth your energy.
He's going to end up in jail soon if he sticks around.
Yup, I know some really down to earth nice guys that totally flipped like you'd never believe. I mean going from never even killing spiders to beating someones face into a steel refrigerator door, then stomping on the guys chest after he falls to the ground, unconscious.
Yeah, all the other betas in the thread want him to act petty. He just needs to accept that this situation is resolved, and ask his folks for some bus fare home. He can organize his thoughts on the way home and get his shit together.
Not sure if its really alpha to beg for money to come back home the tail between the legs. In the old time , an alpha male wad doing what was necessary to save his honour and pride. Living her without doing anything is not going to save his honour.
All the other betas lol. You are a pussy bitch. Man's home is man's castle. You wanna invade my castle better be ready to take out or be taken out by the mother fucking king. I dont care if a woman is involved or not. No means no in my fucking house. You dont like it ill knock your fuckin head in on my doorstep and you can call me a beta.
Did you miss the part of the story where this guy said he doesn't even have a job? His house? That bitch was running shit as soon as he agreed to give up everything to move across country with her. You think that guy would do anything if he stayed while that other guy came over? The alpha dude banging his chick would have probably made OP lick his nut out of her asshole. Get real.
I truly hope someone offered him the only real advice you can, to get his shit and get out.
With any luck some friends will help the guy get back home because his "Relationship" is very over.
The sadists in that thread saying to stay there while she is with the other guy must want to see a suicide.
This. I'm disappointed with all the passive-aggressive, hissy fit advice that this guy is getting.
Walk the fuck away and learn from it. There is nothing else that this guy can do which will not make him look like a loser and an asshole. Some of that 'advice' will get him thrown in jail.
Sometimes a guy needs to acknowledge that he got beat, figure out why, and not do those things again.
I made a joke further down that I'd have stayed and been there in their face all the time, but in all seriousness if he did stay it would be like being repeatedly kicked in the balls for 24 hours, he would snap, and if he didn't do any harm to his now-ex and the other man, he most certainly would harm himself.
Hahaha in medical school, sooooooooo many girls left their long-term boyfriends near or right after graduation. Some guys left their girlfriends too, but they were often short-term (<6 months) and they were moving cross country for their residency.
The cake was, I was getting some free furniture off one girl who had a long-term boyfriend. This guy I knew for a fact had supported her financially (he paid for rent), moved across country for her, started doing a post-bac to get into medical school because she insisted that "he should be a doctor too." He had just finished helping her pack all her shit into the moving truck (my god there was a lot). They were together for over 6 years.
And she dumps him, right there, right after he helped move that shit into the truck. I was lugging out the free coffee table when she dropped the bomb on him. To his credit he didn't break down and cry or even yell. I guess he must have seen it coming or was too shocked to react.
Poor sob. Oh yeah the said girl was a stereotypical asian bitch type so I had bet 100 bucks to my then girlfriend that this would happen. She didn't believe me, but she swallowed the pill that day too.
No... I didn't say that trying to be harsh or trying to establish my superiority or some bullshit like that. I was serious.
The guy is only 26 years old. Everything he lost because of this, he'll get it back. He avoided marrying this girl and making a huge mistake that he would never have been able to recover from. And he's learned a ton from this... unless he's a fool, he's going to be a much stronger man as a result of this experience.
It won't end well for the girl because once she gets a bit older and loses some of her looks, even betas will see through her bullshit, and she'll have nothing.
I never had it as bad as the guy, but I had an experience along the same line as this back in 2008. At the time I was crushed, but in terms of learning about life and how shit really works, it was eye-opening and I'm no longer someone who is gonna act like a chump. I wouldn't change anything about the way it played out, and I think the guy is going to feel the same way in 5 years.
You bet your fucking ass there's more to this. This guy has absolutely nothing going for him. By his own account he was asking for this to happen. I'm not saying that she isn't a horrible bitch for rubbing it in his face, though.
Agreed. He'll get back on his feet eventually. Hell, we've all been in similar situations in the past i assume, its just that his is just beyond what most of us have experienced. That all being said, i think even with TRP and the the principles we preach, there needs to be more sympathy in this sub. Awareness will come eventually for him, but right now he needs to know that there are other guys out there that have been through similar things and start to realize why this occured.
This is the most important comment I've read in this thread. Yeah, this guys is broke, and may not be putting as much effort into getting a new job as he possibly could (though I could write a book about how shitty our job market is), but this woman is morally bankrupt.
I mean, if I had a partner that became unmotivated to the point that they were no longer attractive, cheating is the last thing I would do. I know TRP talks about solving your own problems, but if you seriously think you were ever in love with someone...you would help them out a bit before fucking some other dude in front of him.
Women do not share our ideas of loyalty, honor, or commitment, and to think they do or ever will is asking to get fucked over by one of them. Damn near every woman I know will do this exact same shit of given the opportunity. They are not men, they dont play by the same rules, and they will drop someone without remorse if a better option presents itself... Even if it only appears to be better, doesn't matter if it actually is.
If it were me she'd get back from that amazing job she has on valentines day to a barren apartment. I'd craigslist the place clean while she was at work, snatch up any greyhound ticket out of there I could get for that afternoon, and pocket the extra.
Just me getting back what I'm owed for the expense I underwent uprooting my life for the bitch.
It's funny how correlated a woman's attraction is to a man's income. I'm sure she actually liked him at some point, because given how bold she is in kicking him out, she wouldn't have stuck with him for 4 years and gotten engaged.
But considering she got an "amazing job offer", she probably became the one with greater career prospects, and the move across country left him at least temporarily without income. Most of his alpha signals have been stripped from him too, as he may have been a leader or respected member of his social circle at home, but now he has no social circle at all. The attraction drop is the equivalent of a girl suddenly gaining 100 pounds and becoming fat and ugly. And the co-worker at her place is a few years older, so he probably has more money saved up, likely owns more assets, and he is working at the same "amazing" place so he likely has a better career than the OP.
Guys are just kidding themselves if they think a girl will still like you if you suddenly lose your income and your social circle. It's not that the girl is evil or anything, it is simply nature. Just like how a guy may tell a girl he will love her no matter what, and she gains 100 pounds overnight, and then the guy is running the next morning. In order for a relationship to be stable, guys need to do their job of staying alpha and keeping his potential up, girls need to do their job of staying fit and feminine. The "I will love you no matter what" is just a saying, because "you" includes your looks and your future potential, you are no longer the "you" that they promised to love if things change.
It is incredibly foolish, arrogant, and disrespectful to your competition to think that you can beat out all the other men while being unemployed. It's as foolish as a fatty thinking she'll get the highest caliber men.
He should probably sue for "broken promise to marry". Nah, just kidding, he's male, he'd get laughed out of the court. I forgot that the solution to every problem a man has in his life is just to "man up".
She said she felt an immediate bond with this coworker that’s stronger than anything she’s ever felt before. This from the woman who just a few months ago I held in my arms while watching the stars as she told me she’s never felt more at peace than when she’s beside me.
Women don't love you. They love the way you make them feel.
DON'T move across the country for HER job. Been there, done that. You become a Supporting Actor in her movie. She'll start looking for a Leading Man who is carrying his own movie.
been there, Didn't do that. I dodged that bullet shortly before it happened. Years back and now i get curious on how things would turn out if i did.
the most curious question i ask myself is how many seconds would it take her to turn into the coldest passive-aggressive bitch while looking for a dominant cock if i had went a long like a puppy on a leash.
You can't put household income against personal incomes. Then you're comparing apples to oranges. You've skewed your metric. You're not even close to 4%.
In fairness to him, it seems like he thought this guy was an asshole before this went down so perhaps he's not just calling this guy an asshole because he is upset at the situation.
because he doesn't know the truth. when my ex dumped me, at first i've blamed the guy whom she switched to. eventually i realized, that he is my morpheus. thanks to him i've got the opportunity to discover the amazing world of the red pill.
Bukowski kept his woman in line by telling her he was going to "turn her over". When she said "turn me over what", he said, "Turn you over to the next guy."
The other guy ruined his perfect relationship by confusing her. Fortunately, as soon as she realizes her mistake, she'll come right back to him and they'll live happily ever after.
Her story 2 weeks from now after the "Artsy asshole" pumped and dumped her:
I was stressed out by the move, the expectations of the new job, the pressure to fit in at work and amidst all this confusion, I wasn't thinking right. I started hanging out with a coworker for moral support and things got heavy, somehow things went further than I wanted. I wasn't myself with all the stress, confusion, and conflicting thoughts. I realize now it's a mistake and that I want my beta bux back.
Oh yeah, and I'm still banging Artsy Asshole on the side every week or so, but you don't need to know that yet because it would ruin what we have together and how well we're reconnecting. It's just sex anyway, and I know you're not so shallow as to think that's what really matters in a relationship. We're different, we have something special: your bank account.
We're different, we have something special: your bank account.
Nice line, but not even that - that guy, after the move, is now completely bankrupt. Around this time, she decided she wanted someone else. Seems like there might be something to it...
I've been in a relationship where my wife (we got married in december) has been making more than me for about 2 years, maybe a bit longer. I don't know why but she doesnt seem to care. I'm pretty sure that she isn't cheating on me. But honestly, its getting to me, and I am way too comfortable sitting at home doing nothing. fuck
Don't worry, not all women will turn on you as soon as they can. Trp is a good guide to life but it is a generalisation. You can take advice from here but only you know your situation and your relationships.
So it may not be as much the issue of going off birth control as it going on it in the first place. Sexual health expert Dr. Madeleine Castellanos cautions women to think carefully about their choice of contraceptive: "Some of these side effects are so serious that I now urge young women to consider just using condoms and leaving the birth control pills behind."
To "let" is to authorize something to happen. You can still be in a relationship with dominant/submissive personality types without actually exercising your authority over that person.
edit: I don't understand the objection to my comments. It's not up to you to "let" others do things or not. Please clarify if I misunderstood something.
Still blue pill. You have to have the ability to put your foot down. Just like pack animals, if you aren't the leader, someone else has to be. And women are not good at being leaders.
Thanks for the reply. But I hope that by "putting your foot down", you mean communicating the fact that you yourself are not happy with the situation, and are considering leaving if this were to be the official relationship dynamic. Sexual strategy is one thing, but beyond that, social agency needs to be respected for all humans. Don't trick people into living a life they normally wouldn't want to live...
Yeah, something tells me you are lost. This isn't /r/relationships. We here acknowledge the difference between men and women. 'Agency' should only be respected for people who take responsibility when they make bad decisions.
Disregarding a woman's opinion is not necessarily a red pill staple, but we put much more weight on your actions vs your words. If being a stern leader wasn't successful with women, we wouldn't do it.
The part that loses me is the generalization. Neither gender can be simplified so easily and there is too much variation between individuals. Also, what's wrong with having two leaders, each in charge of their own domain? -That's actually the most common characteristic of the relationships I've seen.
Most guys would react violently if someone pulled this kind of stunt.
She throws him away like trash, and she openly declares that she's gonna fuck this guy in their house? Come on.
Can you just imagine a woman telling you: Hi, honey! I'm gonna have a guy over for valentines day. Make sure you're not home that night, so he can properly pump me throughout the night.
Women are smart enough not to pull this on someone with self respect. This guy messed up hard.
Yeah, this move doesn't come out of left field. She made this demand because she thought she could get away with it. He's the type of guy who she think she would leave the house while she fucks another dude. Fucked up shit; I hope OP puts on his fighting gloves.
While domestic violence never solves anything, I can see how a situation like this would drive a dude into a murderous rage. This isnt mere shit testing and cheating. It's some dumb cunt ruining some poor man's life.
It's not too often that I get to see a whole new level of fucked up but I think this is one that's surpassed most fucked up shit I've seen for a while.
If this was me at 26 years, I would have beaten the fucking shit out of this guy. I actually would have gone to his workplace and violently assaulted him in front of all his co-workers.
That seems blue pill to me.. its the woman's fault, but you are going to put blame on the man? She was attracted and created the situation. If not that one dude, it could have been 100 other dudes.. she decided she needed something more, and she shit on your soul to get it.
By beating the dude, you only reinforced her fucked up control of things. She will probably get off on the drama of it all (men fighting for her, how romantic!)
I would wait until he showed up at my house, and I would brain him with a baseball bat as soon as he walked in the door. Tell the cops I thought it was a home invasion.
While that might be a generally ill-advised thing to do, there's nothing even remotely beta about being a violent hair-triggered asshole. See: every famous murderer and his groupies.
That's the kind of fight where even if you're right, and even if you win, you still look like an asshole and you end up in jail. And what do you get out of it, really?
Best thing to do is walk the fuck away, and learn from the experience so that you don't get beat like that again. The new guy will get his in 3 years when she does the same thing to him... he's not a winner here.
No, they'll just think you're crazy and have you escorted off the premises. What is with the anger towards the guy anyway? He is irrelevant, its the girl that chose to be with him instead.
It clearly said in the setup that the bf had met the dude. He has to know. Besides, the chick is probably talking trash about the bf to him anyhow, or trying to. I'd bet gold/BTC against dollars he knows. ;-p
Not that I blame him; he doesn't owe the original OP anything. Just saying, he knows and doesn't care...
The lies they tell are endless.. she will convince the most good-natured man that he is in the clear to fuck without a moral dilema
As a man who had fucked 5 or 6 married women in a 1 year span I have to agree. The ones who weren't pretending to be single talked shit about their husbands constantly. The ones who pretended to be single, once you catch them out they ALL resorted to talking shit about their husbands.
Don't blame a dog for being a dog and don't blame a woman for being a woman.
I really wish I could be surprise by things like this. That's why the Red Pill is hard to shallow. You have to uproot your belief structure regarding females. That sweet fiancee of yours will ditch if she can upgrade or if you allowed yourself to become a beta. AWALT
As much as you don't want it to be true I see it regularly irl and it is backed up by examples of the same shit happening across the world via the internet.... sad but AWALT.
You know, I'm wondering if the move was actually a chicken shit way for her to try and end the relationship. I guess she didn't count on the dude tagging along...
yup - absolutely no honour. Can't honour agreed time to meet for date. Can't honour monogamy. Can't honour contracts (marriage). Can't even tell the truth to themselves. Complete lack of honour. Probably exaggerated culturally, i.e. Japanese/Chinese have a big thing culturally about honour and losing "face" - would expect their women to be slightly less promiscuous, compared to westernised women who are basically scum, in shiny packets with expensive price tags.
Correct. To men, honor and loyalty are concrete ideals. To women, they're abstract concepts.
A good parallel to illustrate this idea is thinking in a different language. Imagine thinking in, say, Russian (or any other language you don't currently speak). To some random Muscovite out there, those Russian words have prosody, meaning, and vigor. To you, they mean nothing. You can abstractly grasp how they might make carry certain meaning for other people, but for you, they don't mean shit.
Same goes with women and loyalty. They understand it exists, they know what it means, and they know what they need to do in order to be considered a "loyal person." In the end though, it's just an empty word.
No consequence nor repercussions from them being disloyal or dishonorable, someone somewhere will still want to fuck them. Besides, they always left an abusive asshole deadbeat shitlord neck beard loser for the wonderful dick they now suck. That dick stays wonderful until a better one comes along, then its a deadbeat neck beard... You get the idea.
Hey guys. Breach of promise is still a thing. He needs to sue the ever loving shit out of her. I bet he could come away with an award in the tens of thousands of dollars for having quit his job for her, moving for her and her intentional infliction of emotional harm.
After she isn't able to pay he can walk down to the court house for a writ of execution. All her assets seized. Bank accounts, cars, residences. If that isn't enough, they revoke her drivers license. She will be jobless and homeless. She will come crawling back and he can have the last laugh. He can imagine himself standing above her laughing.
Holy shit, there are few better examples of how woman really think and behave than this right here.
She fell in love in circumstances when he was more alpha, then she had a chance to elevate herself with an awesome new job in a new place. This was handled poorly and totally fucked with their relationship dynamic. Suddenly he's whining like a beta during a move, unemployed and living in her apartment while she plays husband to his whiny unattractive housewife.
What happens? She dumps his ass for the near first alpha that makes a move and now she'll discard him and their 4 years easier than the chewing gum wrapper she tossed in the bin earlier.
This is a lesson to us all in maintaining our frame at all times and maintaining our relationship dynamic in our favour. Giving up everything and moving with her to a place where she'd be top dog was a beta mistake. He should have broken it off and stayed put unless he could also have a better job lined up before he moved.
Don't assume the new guy is an alpha. Some chicks jump from beta to beta because the true alpha is actually the woman. As fucked up as that is to say...
She can just perceive the new guy as higher status and she will swing, doesn't matter what he actually is only that she sees him as an improvement. Women are shitty judges of value, its why they are so easily manipulated.
He was never alpha. A woman would never act like this to a man with self respect, since there's a chance that she could get hurt.
What you see here is that the guy stopped being a provider, so she openly fucks other men instead of doing it behind his back.
What most people from that thread don't realize is that she didn't 'suddenly' become a bitch, much in the same way that Einstein didn't suddenly become good at physics.
No, she was that way for a long time. Now that she got a great job and he's relying on her for support is when you see her true colors.
There's no way someone would cheat on someone so brazenly, not unless she's been practicing.
Some are not so smart. Ex wrestler, combat veteran, power lifter, have PTSD, and my ex thought I would support her and her desperate omega 'soulmate' and was utterly amazed when I kicked her out. They later set me up and used the courts to extort money from me. His 150lb ass is terrified of me, so he runs to the cops for everything.
If I really wanted to, police sure as fuck wouldn't stop me. They would he there to clean up after, but no way they could prevent it.
Neither one of them is worth the legal hassle of doing anything, she's a loser, so is he. They fit far better than she did with me, she was an albatross around my neck.
The respect for a real man goes beyond their threat of violence though. For women, disrespecting an alpha would mean getting kicked to the curb with no warning at all. If a woman understands that you will not tolerate that behavior, it will simply not happen. Girls do not disappoint their fathers and the respect women should feel for their man is similar (if not the same).
My immediate thoughts of what this chap should do involve mischief: if he's in the apartment with them he should be with them, or at least constantly interrupting them, even when they decide to go for a bit of privacy (presumably it's his bedroom too), "it's okay, I've seen her in the buff already".
Seriously though, it really does depress, though not surprise me that the woman here put herself and her needs way above the man's, and as soon as he's seen as lower-value everything he is and everything he's done mean absolutely nothing.
Of course if she'll do it to this chap she'll presumably do it to the new man too somewhere down the line.
If he was or is in California or one of those places with ridiculous marital/cohabitation laws he could try to get money out of her ass. Then he could spend it on a new bitch because he's going to repeat the process.
Edit: Why isn't he mad? He says he's too ashamed and embarrassed to even tell his family. What a joke.
She literally fucked him over from left and right, I'd go batshit on this woman. Considering that he's got nothing to lose. She isolated him, humiliated him, and then bent him over a fucked him straight in the ass. Imagining being in his shoe makes me sick, of course all this could have been avoided if he was smart about it from the beginning.
This story is so common, it's boring to read. If you give a woman power over your existence, she's going to use it.
She's got the money, she's paying the rent. If he doesn't get his ass out now, however he can, she'll probably have him thrown in jail.
The previous 4 years of this guy's life don't matter. He could have been superman, made millions, supported her every whim, and even been the largest manly badass in the universe. But the very second he gave his woman power over his existence, her mind began rewriting history. Suddenly, their relationship has always been a little lackluster. Suddenly, she feels like she's always been solving his problems for him. Suddenly, the history they have together was never a "real connection" like she feels for some new guy. In her mind, their relationship was never right, and he was always an unemployed, helpless dependent, and only now, in the arms of a new man, does she realize that. She's already rewritten the story in her head.
That's how the female subconscious works. How she feels, right now, in this moment, is truth.
I had to re-read this because I wondered why the guy would take her to the 99p shop. I guess this is a UK thing, Pound Town sounds too much like Poundland.
"Alright, you assholes can fuck in the bedroom. I'm gonna be filling Amber-from-Delight-Escorts' holes here in the front room." Him and the call girl - naked, drunk, and fucking all over the house. That would put a dent in the bitch's Valentine's Day.
As soon as the power dynamic shifted, she lost any interest in him. That will happen EVERY TIME. Never turn in your weapons - by that I mean your income and your independence. I don't care if you think she's a unicorn - never get into a situation where you become dependent on her because 99% of the time, she will turn on you.
I learned this the hard way a few years ago. I had supported a woman through college, was the primary breadwinner, and she dumped me when she was a month away from graduation. In addition to the wasted time, I got a $10,000 co-signed loan for my trouble which I'll likely have to pay off in the end. As an aside, I found out around that time that her mom wasn't a widow like I'd thought... she was divorced. She had divorced my ex's dad while he was dying of cancer.
Karma worked out though. My ex is now 35, 50 lbs overweight, is a single mom, and is making $10/hr as a cashier because her degree wasn't the gold mine she expected it to be. I'm doing just fine. It was all worth it to me... I dodged a bullet (we were engaged)... and more importantly I learned a vital lesson.
Another big gun is spinning plates. Even if you're in a serious/monogamous relationship you can still have women in your life that demonstrates you have options and she can easily be replaced, and if need be gives you an easy access to dread game.
Nah... I mean I get where you're coming from, but doing that would indicate that I give a fuck about where she is in life when I really don't. I listen to news about her in the same way I'd listen to news of a civil revolt in Myanmar, or something like that. It's news, but not something I think about much.
Besides, in a situation like this where you've so obviously come out ahead, there's no point. There's nothing that needs to be pointed out. She knows where I am and where she is, and she knows that I know. In a position like that, me just being in the same room with her is enough to rub it in.
Agreed, but I really enjoy schadenfreude. Don't give a shit about the exs, but I take pride in knowing I am doing well despite their best efforts to ruin me. I'm the best thing that ever happened to most of them. Sometimes its good to be friends with them years later, they tell you the most interesting things.
While I am a sadistic individual whom would normally advocate rubbing it in for the sake of causing the other person pain, it's more complicated than that.
Once you have ceased communication with a female like that, the moment you give her any attention WHATSOEVER, she becomes the winner. Because you are giving her attention. If a female like that was still hung up on you in some sort of way, she would NOT have to be told by you what you were doing. Women talk to other women incessantly about EVERYTHING. Did you do something weird in bed with some random female? Word on the block, that tidbit of information has already been spread throughout the female network, to females who may or may not even know who you are but now they know your name and that you did some weird fucked up shit.
So just leave it be. Allowing someone like that time of your day is like letting a wound fester and not heal.
I hate to admit this, but the guy's story kept me up pretty late last night. I just couldn't go to sleep. What a gut-punch. Hoping it's fake or something.
Don't worry guys. This woman has made one small mistake: She thinks that her new job, increased salary, and prestige will translate into bagging a higher quality guy.
Nope. Any high SMV guy is gonna pump n dump and isn't going to give 2 shits about her fancy new job. She'll crash and burn when that sinks in. She might even miss that beta before it's all said and done
No kidding, this artist guy just witnessed first-hand how she threw away her boyfriend/fiance of 4 years in a span of just 4 weeks. He'd have to be nuts to consider any type of relationship beyond fucking (and there's no doubt they've been fucking).
I swallowed the red pill, and what I discovered is that I'd rather be single and "lonely", with the occasional one night stand than invest an iota of energy into someone who is, more likely than not, a soulless, alpha seeking robot.
Constant shit tests and the threat of betrayal at every turn? No thanks. I'd rather enjoy my life.
So once again, asshole gets the girl and the loving and caring boyfriend gets dumped, cheated on lets be honest..., and his face rubbed in shit..
Regular scenario, he shat the bed when he went after her. The only reason it could work is if there was no asshole/higher status male interested in her. If she's half attractive that not gonna happen so op gets killed by the girl he supposed to marry.
And she has the balls to ask the guy to their place for V-day to get fucked right in her fiancees face, after 4 years. Learn it already, WOMEN DESPISE BETAS.
It could also work if he was in a position where he didn't have poor credit and had money and/or a job that allowed him to continue making his living independent of their location.
There is a significant probability that this new guy will dump her after he's done with her, and she might come running back to OP after realizing what a huge mistake she made.
noloss on all three counts. I have no love for treacherous cunts, or shameless opportunistic men, or bitch ass dudes. The world will be better without all three.
Wow. If his name is on the lease, he has every right to refuse entry to a guest. If he doesn't want to watch her date him in front of him, fine, don't. Don't let him in the damn place. What's wrong with this pussy?
Agreed... Not only that, he should find two high class hookers and Invite them over for VD Day and have a threesome in the living room right in front of them.
I'm leaving bitch. in the back of a squad car after I trash the apartment and choke you til I smell shit.
I don't mean to promote violence, but god damn where the fuckdo these people find the patience to deal with some of the shit they go through? I'm not a violent man. I'm actually really relaxed and easy going. To the point where a lack of "give a fuck" is a real issue in my life, but you come at me like that, and theres gonna be some ugly scorched earth type shit happening.
I suppose the whole situation could have been avoided if the dude wasn't such a pussy in the first place.
Wow. You seem angry. This sort of anger really isn't red pill. rather than get your panties in a twist you ought get over it, move on, and quit being a bitch.
And I wasn't condoning violence. I was condoning his right to feel violent. So far he hasn't killed anyone and anyone who uses his comment to commit murder probably is already unhinged.
I cannot really put my thumb on what I find so unacceptable in your stance. I feel that it's high time that everyone begin talking about the evil done by women, instead of just saying they can't help it because of feels. This is totally bullshit. Any man is better off by realizing that he is not deserving of these evil deeds and act accordingly.
I fight evil when I encounter it, I piss on it, I throw imprecations and I will hurt it.
I feel like you believe you have entirely too much control over the evil of others especially women, that's what it seems like to me.
concern troll. What TRP doesnt need is people telling people what TRP needs. This isn't /r/mensrights. I'm not here as part of a political movement, and truthfully I dont care if other men take the red pill. They can take it or leave it if they please.
I'm saying, and this is a factual statement, if some woman saw fit to treat me that way, I would lose my composure.
I dunno what kinda life you've lived but take it from me. a physical beating is less painful and less traumatic than this shit.
do you know where the fuck you are dude? Some times people come to TRP and they forget where the fuck they are. This is the cock and balls of the manosphere. Take your "real men do this" bullshit to facebook son.
Its about honor my good man. This man wasn't dumped. dumped aint shit. hes devalued, disrespected, dishonored, and humiliated. God bless him for having more restraint than me.
In any other situation I'd disagree with you, but sitting here and reading what happened to this dude infuriates me just reading the text. I didn't even go through it.
I would most definitely lose composure if this happened. I don't know what that would involve. I'm glad I don't have to.
Lets not forget that the man absolutely deserved this. Look at this quote from him:
So yeah. What the hell am I supposed to do?
That really tells it all. What kind of a spineless, pathetic "man" needs to ask a bunch of strangers on the internet what to do with his life when the answer is so obvious and clear?
You can't expect a woman OR a man to respect a "man" who acts like a doormat.
I feel bad for him...I think he's probably just shocked this happened and seeking some comfort. It's unfortunate that the only outlet he has is the internet.
He needs a splash in the face obviously, but but he got was getting chained to concrete bricks and tossed into the pacific ocean.
This is the sort of stuff that causes a guy to put on a Bane mask and start fucking shit up as revenge. This is the sort of stuff that ends up in the news as "A jittled man decapitates his ex-fiance and her lover..."
If you are so emotionally invested in this girl to let if mess up then so be it.
I'd sit in my living room and enjoy myself like any other night myself.
It's always the same, it's textbook, woman is higher status than her bf/fiancee/husband and suddenly she cheats on him/dumps him on the spot. Still shocking to the blue pill crowd.
We had here forbes or times, I don't remember, article about how wall street women are embarrassed with their stay at home husbands. Not that these white knight idiots won't pull nawalt on it no matter how much proof they get hit with.
Woman can't be of higher status than her man and be attracted to him. It can work if she's old/ugly but that's only because there are no other men willing to fuck her.
yeah I read that in relationship advice - actually felt bad for OP then I just realized it was just another in an ample line of examples that display exactly what TRP says
WHY would you ever put yourself in a situation where you don't have any choices?
ALWAYS plan for the worst, even when you're hoping for the best. Good god. Can you imagine if she did this AFTER the wedding? Thank FUCK it happened before hand.
In a relationship, it's great to be supportive and loving, but I cannot imagine EVER putting myself in a situation where i'm in a new place, with no friends, no job, no money and no options.
You have to set yourself up so when it all goes to shit you can just go "I'm off" and walk away with confidence, knowing you can just carry on elsewhere.
Women are nothing more than hypergamy and Briffault's Law. A man is nothing more than an tool. The language speaks for itself. "Your the provider, you bring home the bacon." In other words, you are a human ATM machine. You are there to pay the rent.
Don't be surprised when a woman tosses a man aside because she found a better deal.
Remember. A shark is not evil when it eats a human flesh. It's just feeding.
I asked my gf (now wife) to move to another country and another city to be with me, but I did it on the stipulation that she had other career options her for here as well.
I didn't make her move JUST for my benefit, to a city she didn't like. She had other reasons to come here too. I just happened to be a major one.
If you are a guy you NEVER EVER change cities for a woman ! Never ! This is the worst outcome of One-itis!
If you are a guy you NEVER EVER change cities for a woman ! Never ! This is the worst outcome of One-itis!
I see what you are saying, but have to disagree with the "never". I did just that, moved to another country for my wife. However that was a conscious decision on my part. My business makes me travel a lot, so it really does not matter where I live. Her living in her home country (in EE), makes it easier for her when I am away. Also gives me peace of mind, as none in our social circle there would even think of putting horns on me (not loyalty, but basic understanding of what would happen..).
There are also a lot of added benefits for me (earning 15-20 times the national average makes it easy for me to have a lot of fun while there.
But yes, I understand, and agree with the general sentiment if moving makes you loose all you options.
Jesus christ...I see a new one of these stories on here everyday, but this one made me feel sick to my stomach. As much as it was this dude's fault, I think every man on here who just read that story felt a unanimous cringe of pain. God damn, after 4 years she tells him to gtfo while she fucks Mr. Alpha on Valentine's Day, that is fuckin cruel.
The lesson here is never believe what comes out of a woman's mouth. Not only will she "change her mind", most of what comes out if verbal diarrhea anyway. Lies, I don't even know if I'd go that far. Women's relationship with physical reality isn't anything like ours.
When I read this, I think of my grandfather's generation. They would NEVER have put up with this. They called the shots. My grandfather's were both players. Sadly, they didn't pass it down.
One of the benefits of being older, I got a brief glimpse of that generation, born 1910s, before they all died. Sadly I never appreciated them until I went red pill. Before I would judge them and say they were selfish cave men.
Another advantage your grandpappy had was there was no safety net for women sleeping around. If they fucked up they had to go live with the Nuns because no one else wanted to take care of them.
I remember my grandpa when he would see one of the grandsons not act like a boy should (not being tough, crying, speaking real shy and quiet, afraid to fight kid down the street), he would give that Wtf look, like "what is wrong with that boy?"
Generation X and Y got fucked really hard on that. I remember asking myself "why are things like this" all the time, but man, if I didn't get caught up in being raised in that shit, I would have a good 10 prime years back.
Sorry but this is bullshit. Our grandfathers could do this because they could provide for the whole family on one income. Now you have companies fucking you over, paying you as little as possible, health insurance, shitty 401k's etc. Thank the Republican party.
Unless you have an extremely high end job, you are not going to be providing 2 cars, a big house, vacations, and all of the other stuff on a single income.
Try explaining that to a woman. They still want the man to be the main breadwinner. This is why Hypergamy is emotionally killing this generation of men, while our grandfathers took care of business.
Careful, this sub is staunchly conservative. They equate masculinity with modern American conservatism. It's fucking retarded. The Republican Party 1980 and onward have blown the economy up. Paul Volker was the only reason you could remotely call Reagan's first term a success, and after that the cupboard is bare. It's mind-numbing.
Republicans? Try statists! A state that manipulates our money into something that loses value, a state that restricts competition in sectors like healthcare and courts, a state that steals from all who produce to fund wars and make debt! You'll find republicans and democrats are both soundly statists, and would love nothing more than to restrict the marketplace
I was referring more to pro-corporation, anti-union beliefs of the Republican party. I'm not saying they are solely to blame but it used to be you could work in a factory for decent pay, decent benefits, vacation, and a pension. Now corporations have been given free reign and will do anything to fuck over employees. There is a reason the wage difference between CEOs and workers is huge and growing further away every year.
Suuuuure, feminism, a society wrecking liberal construct if ever there was one, has nothing to do with it... Conservatives were the one's screaming for more women in the workplace, right? Conservatives were the ones insisting there's nothing inferior about single parent families, or any other weird arrangement without a proper masculine role model, right? Conservatives are the ones pushing "gender studies", and starting gay/straight alliances and sensitivity groups, and women's rights groups permeating campus culture everywhere, right? It's Conservatives who scoff at traditional family as the cornerstone of society as outmoded, old-fashioned, and obsolete, right? It's Conservatives who balk at American exceptionalism and rugged individualism, and advance an agenda of government dependency, right? It's Conservatives who are going to vote Hillary "no soul" Clinton into office, largely because she is a woman, not a great leader or problem solver, right?
Get the fuck out of here with that lefty bullshit. The good ole days had a strong conservative backbone. All this "progress" has flipped gender roles on their head, destroyed the institution of marriage, devalued the family unit, and marginalized boys at school and men in the workplace. Don't look to God to fix it though, he's been disowned too in this age of "enlightenment". Fuck the patriarchy, right? You might wanna think shit through before you cast that next ballot. From what I see, most people under 30 have been brainwashed by a steady stream of propaganda, and have no reference point to understand just how far from true America they've gotten.
I'm not buying what the GoP's selling 100%, but the DNC's vision is for the short sighted or blind. Maybe if they stopped importing illegal immigrants young men would be building houses next summer, instead of living in their parents' basement while working three nights a week as a metrosexual barrista. If anyone's churning out betas it's the Democrats and their policies.
Sorry but in your rants against women you failed to even see my point. If you think a guy (or girl for that matter) can't earn a decent living because women are in the workplace you are sorely misguided. This has nothing to do with feminisim and everything to do with corporate greed and the crushing of unions.
Who makes up most of the unions? Men. Who makes up most of the executives? men. This has zero to do with women..
It's you who failed to see the point. If you think men haven't been displaced in the workplace and education, or made to question and subdue the qualities we were admiring abount men of yore, thanks to liberal ideology like feminism being crammed down their throat, then you are sorely misguided.
If you think criticism of feminism is a rant against women, you need to learn to distinguish better.
Crony capitalism, not to be confused with capitalism, hurts most of us, but don't act like Republicans have that market cornered when Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, and Obama is bailing out banksters left and right, picking winners in the automotive industry, and harassing businesses who support conservatism with the IRS.
And don't act like corporatism is the only thing hurting jobs. People and businesses are fleeing California and New York because of the oppressive business environment created by liberal policies. Encouraging illegal immigration in order to grow their hopeful future base and cling to power is disgusting and hurts workers and employers who do things honestly. The ACA is burdening businesses large and small, preventing hiring, risk taking, and growth. High taxes and over regulation discourages investment and pushes jobs offshore.
Unions have their place but they prevent competition. Unions are how our kids get shitty educations from tenured bad teachers. Unions come to serve themselves more than workers, bully workers who don't want to join, and force salaries that aren't sustainable in changing conditions.
It's a complex problem and valid criticism can be leveled at both sides, but laying it on Republicans is a crock of shit. Plenty of liberal policies and ideologies have contributed to the poor economy and increasingly low quality of jobs.
Dude you won't find any company that owns factories against illegal immigration. The fat cats at the top want to pay people as little as possible. To say liberal policies is to blame is bullshit. You must have forgotten the bailout bush orchestrated. Guys at the top getting millions in bonuses while the plebs get laid off. Classic.
The funny thing is, no one is getting displaced in the workplace by women. They are getting displaced by factories overseas. The people who aren't getting displaced are seeing their wages plummet.
Like I said, it's a compound problem. You' re the one who said "thank republicans". You wanna start that snarky partisan bullshit, I'm gonna call your ass on it and then some.
You think there are no democrat fat cats and 1%ers? Get real. Ask Michelle Obama why she wore a $12000 dress the other night while her husband has SNAP card ads running in Mexico. You think the DNC isn't buying votes at the expensse of the quality of our country? You think allowing non tax paying cheap labor is good for the American worker? My brother would be doing a lot better than scraping by if his construction bids weren't undercut by a horde of five foot frijole eaters at every turn. It's not just pineapple picking and chicken plucking jobs that are lost to this bullshit.
How can you say men aren't competing with women in the workplace? Women come with tits and ass and work for less money. "Sorry Joe, you're a fine candidate, but Becky Sue is cheap and might let me stick it in her if I play my cards right." How can you be so blind to this stuff?
There are outliers on both sides of the spectrum, but as a whole, the republican party is anti-worker, anti-union, pro-business. Whenever there is talk of raising the minimum wage, who is against it? Republicans. Whenever there is talk of worker benefits or minimum standards its always the republicans caring more about the company than the workers. Mitt Romney even made the asinine comment that "Corporations are people."
Essentially republicans are against any form of welfare unless its for corporations, then they give out tax breaks, loans, etc and it never trickles down to the workers. As far as women undercutting jobs, I don't know where you live but I don't see too many women at constuction sites, oil fields, car factories, or any other "unskilled" jobs that used to pay a decent living.
If he reacted by physically punching her in the face causing grievous bodily harm, I would condone it, because punching her face and breaking her teeth in, is nowhere near as painful as the manupulation she is using against him.
Her wanting him to move was a big shit test he failed. I bet there were warning signs all over the place adn she was hoping he'd disappear from her life magically.
I appreciate everyone telling me I should stand my ground. I told my fiance I wouldn't leave the apartment, but I don't think it's a threat I can carry through with. I will be emotionally devastated if I have to watch the woman I love and care for more than anyone else date someone right in front of me in my own home. Other suggestions would be appreciated.
Bahahahahahhaaaaaaaa. This guy needs to strap on a pair. He'll be too emotionally devastated to defend his home and his honour? I feel sorry for such a helpless man. He needs to stand his ground and tell the asshole he is not welcome at the very least.
Sounds like this old bitch started her own karate class and thinks she's ready to be sensei. She flips one guy and now expects this new guy to spar with her? Ha! He's gonna split after the first lesson and she's gonna be stuck with nothing but an empty dojo...
I hit this guy up and told him that he needs to get the hell out of there or he will end up going to jail, as with most things guys like this don't grow balls until it's too late and there is only more losing if you continue to play the game.
I let him know that she doesn't love him anymore. She is not the same woman that may have loved him, and that if he continues to fight and act childish it will cause her to think that she is justified in her current actions and, when she calls the cops ordering him out of the house.
I told him the same thing. To GTFO... to listen to his brain and not his emotions. He got beat here, and it's a no-win at this point.
And he needs to look at the good side... he dodged a bullet... could he imagine if he married this bitch? He's only 26 and he has the opportunity to gain some real wisdom from this.
Terrible advice telling him to stay put. It will achieve nothing. This guy just needs to pack his stuff and take the next flight back to his city and get his old job back. If she's willing to throw away a 4 year relationship for a guy she just met .....
Easiest way to tell if something is up is to ask to borrow her phone. A cheating slut that is supposed to be "in love with you" but in reality is fucking the guy at the office won't let you get within 10 ft of her sext filled phone....
Ah man I laughed when I read the headline but the story is sad. Poor guy. What a pussy. Hopefully this will make him a stronger man. But he's clearly always been a pussy, no way she would pull that shit if she didn't know he was spineless. How is he not angry??
Nah you just re framed what claude meant to make it seem bitchy and needy rather than a power grab or act of taking control over a situation.
If someone wrongs you, you have every moral right to enact revenge. I think destroying her the way she destroyed him would be very just.
Girls find you attractive when you're banging all the girls around them, he can really fuck with her head doing this shit, make her second guess her opinion of him and shit, obviously you don't go back to her, but it grants you power over the cunt who wronged you.
he took the FEMALE approach by singling out those close to the harmed party
I disagree this is a female approach. Soon you'll be saying kissing another chick in-front of your ex girl to make her jealous is a female approach because girls do that shit as well. Guess what? It works when guys do it too. It's called jealousy game. You could go further and posit Machiavellianism is female and therefore guys shouldn't do that either? Again, wrong.
If you hold frame you can do basically whatever the fuck you like. All is fair in love and war.
To sadistically get a kick out of fucking with her, revenge.
Every time a woman fucks with you, your ego takes a hit. You can fill that void with new bitches, sure. But nothing fills that void like fucking the bitch over who caused it to begin with. I endorse both avenues.
simply put its not meant to be, move out, move on, Beta gave up everything to be with someone he believed loved him, lesson learned if it dont work out leave there is someone out there for you
Whats messed up is in the comments of that post people are suggesting he stay put and let them carry on their V-Day date while he is there in the apartment. LOL how about telling her to scat and if the dude shows up around him he will go berserk.
This is a great blue pill example. Not only it shows the pathetic situation, the weakness both mentally and probably physically, the inadequateness of the responses of blue piller, but also the real dangers to man's health and well being in general. It also exposes the brutal behavior of women once she loses not only attraction, but also respect to the man.
Enough! I can't read any more. And the top comments from guys telling him to stick around and "ruin their date"? So he can end up sitting there awkwardly on the couch listening to her screaming while the guy is plowing his fiance, the love of his life? On Valentine's day? Yeah I'm sure that'll feel good for him. Someone put this guy on suicide watch.
Remember guys, she doesn't love you. No matter how much she says it, women can never love you in the same fashion we can love them. They will turn on you in the drop of a hat.
I was thinking more along the lines of going over exactly what she's doing to him and how it shows a complete lack of compassion for him. Then choke her, and whisper in her ear as he does it, how she has chosen to throw away their lives together, and now he has chosen to throw away their lives separately. Tell her that today is the last day of her life. Once she is unconscious, make sure she's still breathing and leave. Place a note on her telling her how he has shown more compassion than she ever did to him by letting her live.
And the story she would tell from then on would be about her "abusive boyfriend" who almost killed her and boohoo isn't she a victim while her ex sits in jail. And every women's group, news outlet, and gov't agency in the land would heap praise on her "bravery" and nobility. Welcome to the ongoing decline and fall of The West.
chill_geddy 11y ago
Jesus Christ this girl went straight gangsta on this dude
pourneTrilogy 11y ago
Here's what you do: find who the guy is. Text from your phone "hey it's [gf], got a new phone. Meet me at my place 30 minutes early."
Tell the girl: "sure honey, I'll leave, just let me know 20 minutes ahead of time"
She'll be getting ready to greet him, while she's getting ready you slip into a leather daddy outfit. Ding dong. Open the door and tell him the safe word is Nebraska, ask if he's ever been a gimp before.
Then you call every stripper in the tri county area and get them over to the house and pay them using your now ex girlfriend's shoe and jewelry collection.
Or you could learn game, not supplicate and next the females who aren't worth your energy.
trudatness 11y ago
Beta dude needs to borrow money from family and GTFO there ASAP.
He's going to end up in jail soon if he sticks around.
GerhardtDH 11y ago
Yup, I know some really down to earth nice guys that totally flipped like you'd never believe. I mean going from never even killing spiders to beating someones face into a steel refrigerator door, then stomping on the guys chest after he falls to the ground, unconscious.
tipofmywang 11y ago
Yeah, all the other betas in the thread want him to act petty. He just needs to accept that this situation is resolved, and ask his folks for some bus fare home. He can organize his thoughts on the way home and get his shit together.
smallpoxinLA 11y ago
Not sure if its really alpha to beg for money to come back home the tail between the legs. In the old time , an alpha male wad doing what was necessary to save his honour and pride. Living her without doing anything is not going to save his honour.
trudatness 11y ago
He got bamboozled into helping his "fiancee" move to a new city for her new job.
She used him like a security blanket - then met some other dude with big city game and disposed of him like trash.
He is in a chump role no-win situation.
Hey that fucking sucks, but reality is reality.
He has absolutely nothing to gain by trying to hang in there. What's done is done.
WhiteE350 11y ago
"Men propose women dispose."
Patrick5555 11y ago
the disposable male huh? she sure as shit was gonna lift all the boxes of her stuff across the country!
TRPtruth 11y ago
All the other betas lol. You are a pussy bitch. Man's home is man's castle. You wanna invade my castle better be ready to take out or be taken out by the mother fucking king. I dont care if a woman is involved or not. No means no in my fucking house. You dont like it ill knock your fuckin head in on my doorstep and you can call me a beta.
tipofmywang 11y ago
Did you miss the part of the story where this guy said he doesn't even have a job? His house? That bitch was running shit as soon as he agreed to give up everything to move across country with her. You think that guy would do anything if he stayed while that other guy came over? The alpha dude banging his chick would have probably made OP lick his nut out of her asshole. Get real.
TRPtruth 11y ago
Who cares about op. Mans house is mans castle. Kicking a shithead in the head who is coming to my house isnt "beta" behavior.
[deleted] 11y ago
All I got from this is just how much of a King I am.
corylegend 11y ago
I truly hope someone offered him the only real advice you can, to get his shit and get out. With any luck some friends will help the guy get back home because his "Relationship" is very over.
The sadists in that thread saying to stay there while she is with the other guy must want to see a suicide.
Nan_Ren 11y ago
This. I'm disappointed with all the passive-aggressive, hissy fit advice that this guy is getting.
Walk the fuck away and learn from it. There is nothing else that this guy can do which will not make him look like a loser and an asshole. Some of that 'advice' will get him thrown in jail.
Sometimes a guy needs to acknowledge that he got beat, figure out why, and not do those things again.
[deleted] 11y ago
I made a joke further down that I'd have stayed and been there in their face all the time, but in all seriousness if he did stay it would be like being repeatedly kicked in the balls for 24 hours, he would snap, and if he didn't do any harm to his now-ex and the other man, he most certainly would harm himself.
mordanus 11y ago
Is this even surprising anymore? Honestly it reads like a script.
Woman wants me to do x
I did x
Woman dumps me because I suck at life.
tallwheel 11y ago
Woman creates giant shit test.
Man epicly fails shit test.
Woman epicly dumps man
mordanus 11y ago
Woman thinks she can do better
Does do better
Man cries
Woman laughs and bathes in his tears.
thecajunone 11y ago
Then she will get pumped and dumped and then she will say, "where have all the nice guys gone"?
rapreaper 11y ago
Or hit the wall and settle.
whatsazipper 11y ago
Then subsequently cheat and divorce rape, because she can do better.
WeAreAllSheep 11y ago
Hahaha in medical school, sooooooooo many girls left their long-term boyfriends near or right after graduation. Some guys left their girlfriends too, but they were often short-term (<6 months) and they were moving cross country for their residency.
The cake was, I was getting some free furniture off one girl who had a long-term boyfriend. This guy I knew for a fact had supported her financially (he paid for rent), moved across country for her, started doing a post-bac to get into medical school because she insisted that "he should be a doctor too." He had just finished helping her pack all her shit into the moving truck (my god there was a lot). They were together for over 6 years.
And she dumps him, right there, right after he helped move that shit into the truck. I was lugging out the free coffee table when she dropped the bomb on him. To his credit he didn't break down and cry or even yell. I guess he must have seen it coming or was too shocked to react.
Poor sob. Oh yeah the said girl was a stereotypical asian bitch type so I had bet 100 bucks to my then girlfriend that this would happen. She didn't believe me, but she swallowed the pill that day too.
[deleted] 11y ago
Trp and beta aside, I feel sad for him reading this.
Nan_Ren 11y ago
Don't.
If he learns from this, it will be the best thing that ever happened to him.
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Nan_Ren 11y ago
No... I didn't say that trying to be harsh or trying to establish my superiority or some bullshit like that. I was serious.
The guy is only 26 years old. Everything he lost because of this, he'll get it back. He avoided marrying this girl and making a huge mistake that he would never have been able to recover from. And he's learned a ton from this... unless he's a fool, he's going to be a much stronger man as a result of this experience.
It won't end well for the girl because once she gets a bit older and loses some of her looks, even betas will see through her bullshit, and she'll have nothing.
I never had it as bad as the guy, but I had an experience along the same line as this back in 2008. At the time I was crushed, but in terms of learning about life and how shit really works, it was eye-opening and I'm no longer someone who is gonna act like a chump. I wouldn't change anything about the way it played out, and I think the guy is going to feel the same way in 5 years.
Big_Dump 11y ago
There is probably quite a bit more to this that he's not saying.
j4q 11y ago
You bet your fucking ass there's more to this. This guy has absolutely nothing going for him. By his own account he was asking for this to happen. I'm not saying that she isn't a horrible bitch for rubbing it in his face, though.
rhythmguy 11y ago
Everybody has low points in their life. This guy being unemployed and broke? Temporary. Her being a huge piece of shit? Permanent.
whatsazipper 11y ago
Women don't plan like that. They only take the immediate situation and present emotions into consideration.
Women will typically ditch then return if you do better or if her options weren't as good as she thought.
[deleted] 11y ago
Agreed. He'll get back on his feet eventually. Hell, we've all been in similar situations in the past i assume, its just that his is just beyond what most of us have experienced. That all being said, i think even with TRP and the the principles we preach, there needs to be more sympathy in this sub. Awareness will come eventually for him, but right now he needs to know that there are other guys out there that have been through similar things and start to realize why this occured.
GerhardtDH 11y ago
This is the most important comment I've read in this thread. Yeah, this guys is broke, and may not be putting as much effort into getting a new job as he possibly could (though I could write a book about how shitty our job market is), but this woman is morally bankrupt.
I mean, if I had a partner that became unmotivated to the point that they were no longer attractive, cheating is the last thing I would do. I know TRP talks about solving your own problems, but if you seriously think you were ever in love with someone...you would help them out a bit before fucking some other dude in front of him.
vengefully_yours 11y ago
Women do not share our ideas of loyalty, honor, or commitment, and to think they do or ever will is asking to get fucked over by one of them. Damn near every woman I know will do this exact same shit of given the opportunity. They are not men, they dont play by the same rules, and they will drop someone without remorse if a better option presents itself... Even if it only appears to be better, doesn't matter if it actually is.
shkizzler 11y ago
this made me sick to my stomach. Im tempted to find this guy and stand up for him cause nobody deserves something like this to happen.
heist_of_saint_graft 11y ago
Don't be a Red Knight.
WAFC 11y ago
Why not? People need help sometimes.
abutterfly 11y ago
Welp, this needs to be adopted into the lexicon immediately.
TooTurnt 11y ago
I know I'm extrapolating this to every situation where people talk about shoving TRP down reluctant beta's throats.
MachiavellianRed 11y ago
Make it happen.
abutterfly 11y ago
Working on a write-up now.
MachiavellianRed 11y ago
I'll read it.
[deleted] 11y ago
If it were me she'd get back from that amazing job she has on valentines day to a barren apartment. I'd craigslist the place clean while she was at work, snatch up any greyhound ticket out of there I could get for that afternoon, and pocket the extra.
Just me getting back what I'm owed for the expense I underwent uprooting my life for the bitch.
noblepaladin 11y ago
It's funny how correlated a woman's attraction is to a man's income. I'm sure she actually liked him at some point, because given how bold she is in kicking him out, she wouldn't have stuck with him for 4 years and gotten engaged.
But considering she got an "amazing job offer", she probably became the one with greater career prospects, and the move across country left him at least temporarily without income. Most of his alpha signals have been stripped from him too, as he may have been a leader or respected member of his social circle at home, but now he has no social circle at all. The attraction drop is the equivalent of a girl suddenly gaining 100 pounds and becoming fat and ugly. And the co-worker at her place is a few years older, so he probably has more money saved up, likely owns more assets, and he is working at the same "amazing" place so he likely has a better career than the OP.
Guys are just kidding themselves if they think a girl will still like you if you suddenly lose your income and your social circle. It's not that the girl is evil or anything, it is simply nature. Just like how a guy may tell a girl he will love her no matter what, and she gains 100 pounds overnight, and then the guy is running the next morning. In order for a relationship to be stable, guys need to do their job of staying alpha and keeping his potential up, girls need to do their job of staying fit and feminine. The "I will love you no matter what" is just a saying, because "you" includes your looks and your future potential, you are no longer the "you" that they promised to love if things change.
It is incredibly foolish, arrogant, and disrespectful to your competition to think that you can beat out all the other men while being unemployed. It's as foolish as a fatty thinking she'll get the highest caliber men.
SgtBrutalisk 11y ago
He should probably sue for "broken promise to marry". Nah, just kidding, he's male, he'd get laughed out of the court. I forgot that the solution to every problem a man has in his life is just to "man up".
redpilldude 11y ago
Women don't love you. They love the way you make them feel.
heist_of_saint_graft 11y ago
DON'T move across the country for HER job. Been there, done that. You become a Supporting Actor in her movie. She'll start looking for a Leading Man who is carrying his own movie.
AllMyOwnStunts 11y ago
Well said. Never move for a SO, it usually never works out.
BIG_Daddy_Government 11y ago
been there, Didn't do that. I dodged that bullet shortly before it happened. Years back and now i get curious on how things would turn out if i did. the most curious question i ask myself is how many seconds would it take her to turn into the coldest passive-aggressive bitch while looking for a dominant cock if i had went a long like a puppy on a leash.
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The guy put all his eggs in her basket.
TheCasualHistorian 11y ago
Too bad she's a cuckoo, and guess what that makes him...
TRPtruth 11y ago
Me too. Even if you bust your ass and make it work for yourself professionally, your movie will not end happily.
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ADPowers001 11y ago
130k isn't the 1%
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ADPowers001 11y ago
lol I wasn't trying to take a shot at you
E36wheelman 11y ago
You can't put household income against personal incomes. Then you're comparing apples to oranges. You've skewed your metric. You're not even close to 4%.
PUAreadingmaterial 11y ago
Not only that, but he lost nearly everything and he wasn't even married. Dropping everything I've worked for to move across the country for a fiancé? What could go wrong!?
heist_of_saint_graft 11y ago
Yep. Also notice the Four Year mark that keeps coming up. Four Years without a Wedding seems to get that branch-swinging started.
rapreaper 11y ago
Its more like four years without putting a baby inside of her.
Rendezvous2 11y ago
Four years together. Only a year engaged. It's a big difference.
Abbrevi8 11y ago
To her or him?
bicureyooz 11y ago
The sad but hilarious part is: he keeps calling the other guy asshole. Amongst the 3 characters, it's the woman who's the real asshole.
ThisisMalta 11y ago
Its a beta male describing an obvious more Alpha..He seemed "cocky" to him, etc..
nsummy 11y ago
In fairness to him, it seems like he thought this guy was an asshole before this went down so perhaps he's not just calling this guy an asshole because he is upset at the situation.
fx-115es 11y ago
he should be thankful to him.
bicureyooz 11y ago
yep. I wonder why victims choose to blame the 3rd party. I wonder what research says about that.
fx-115es 11y ago
because he doesn't know the truth. when my ex dumped me, at first i've blamed the guy whom she switched to. eventually i realized, that he is my morpheus. thanks to him i've got the opportunity to discover the amazing world of the red pill.
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no_game_player 11y ago
Bonus points if you exit dancing.
heist_of_saint_graft 11y ago
Bukowski kept his woman in line by telling her he was going to "turn her over". When she said "turn me over what", he said, "Turn you over to the next guy."
fx-115es 11y ago
Words and actions of great wisdom
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heist_of_saint_graft 11y ago
I'm talking about Linda, the woman he lived with for many years.
[deleted] 11y ago
The other guy ruined his perfect relationship by confusing her. Fortunately, as soon as she realizes her mistake, she'll come right back to him and they'll live happily ever after.
Ethan47 11y ago
The worst part about this, is that's exactly what I told myself as a bluepiller, until she never realized her mistake, and I woke up completely.
I guess it had to get worse, before it got way, way better.
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How do you think I came up with this scenario?
AveofSpades 11y ago
Her story 2 weeks from now after the "Artsy asshole" pumped and dumped her:
I was stressed out by the move, the expectations of the new job, the pressure to fit in at work and amidst all this confusion, I wasn't thinking right. I started hanging out with a coworker for moral support and things got heavy, somehow things went further than I wanted. I wasn't myself with all the stress, confusion, and conflicting thoughts. I realize now it's a mistake and that I want my beta bux back.
noblepaladin 11y ago
That will only happen if he wins the lottery or something. He is dead broke and unemployed.
JD42305 11y ago
Except this beta doesn't have a job.
lookingatyourcock 11y ago
That's way too real man, damn.
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Oh yeah, and I'm still banging Artsy Asshole on the side every week or so, but you don't need to know that yet because it would ruin what we have together and how well we're reconnecting. It's just sex anyway, and I know you're not so shallow as to think that's what really matters in a relationship. We're different, we have something special: your bank account.
still_very_alive 11y ago
Nice line, but not even that - that guy, after the move, is now completely bankrupt. Around this time, she decided she wanted someone else. Seems like there might be something to it...
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Whoops, I forgot to follow the original story.
Well then, the OP from /r/relationships wouldn't have a shot, unless he has a good career and a steady paycheck coming up.
andehpandeh 11y ago
I dodged this bullet. So glad I made the right choice in hindsight.
Sturmgeist781 11y ago
What ended up happening?
Gfresh405 11y ago
This is why you don't let women take the dominant/bread-winner role in a relationship. They will fuck you over faster than you can blink.
misanthropeguy 11y ago
I've been in a relationship where my wife (we got married in december) has been making more than me for about 2 years, maybe a bit longer. I don't know why but she doesnt seem to care. I'm pretty sure that she isn't cheating on me. But honestly, its getting to me, and I am way too comfortable sitting at home doing nothing. fuck
notandxor 11y ago
Don't worry, not all women will turn on you as soon as they can. Trp is a good guide to life but it is a generalisation. You can take advice from here but only you know your situation and your relationships.
Act accordingly.
ejpusa 11y ago
There is a lot of research out now, when a women goes off birth control, all hell breaks loose. It all comes down to chemistry, humans are secondary.
http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/05/birth-control-may-affect-long-term-relationships/
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You can provide emotionally still. I've been in similar situations, once really. But I still took care of her if that makes sense.
I think it's not necessarily bad to make less, it just so happens it's correlated with other bad omens.
LoonyMelancholy 11y ago
Since when is being in a relationship all about controlling your SO's lifestyle? Make the decision to leave yourself. This sounds fucked up.
Gfresh405 11y ago
It's not about controlling - it's just about being the leader.
LoonyMelancholy 11y ago
To "let" is to authorize something to happen. You can still be in a relationship with dominant/submissive personality types without actually exercising your authority over that person.
edit: I don't understand the objection to my comments. It's not up to you to "let" others do things or not. Please clarify if I misunderstood something.
sway_usa 11y ago
Still blue pill. You have to have the ability to put your foot down. Just like pack animals, if you aren't the leader, someone else has to be. And women are not good at being leaders.
LoonyMelancholy 11y ago
Thanks for the reply. But I hope that by "putting your foot down", you mean communicating the fact that you yourself are not happy with the situation, and are considering leaving if this were to be the official relationship dynamic. Sexual strategy is one thing, but beyond that, social agency needs to be respected for all humans. Don't trick people into living a life they normally wouldn't want to live...
sway_usa 11y ago
Yeah, something tells me you are lost. This isn't /r/relationships. We here acknowledge the difference between men and women. 'Agency' should only be respected for people who take responsibility when they make bad decisions.
I'm guessing you would recommend therapy.
LoonyMelancholy 11y ago
You're right. I'm a woman, so feel free to disregard my opinion.
sway_usa 11y ago
Disregarding a woman's opinion is not necessarily a red pill staple, but we put much more weight on your actions vs your words. If being a stern leader wasn't successful with women, we wouldn't do it.
LoonyMelancholy 11y ago
The part that loses me is the generalization. Neither gender can be simplified so easily and there is too much variation between individuals. Also, what's wrong with having two leaders, each in charge of their own domain? -That's actually the most common characteristic of the relationships I've seen.
dsav2 11y ago
Most guys would react violently if someone pulled this kind of stunt.
She throws him away like trash, and she openly declares that she's gonna fuck this guy in their house? Come on.
Can you just imagine a woman telling you: Hi, honey! I'm gonna have a guy over for valentines day. Make sure you're not home that night, so he can properly pump me throughout the night.
Women are smart enough not to pull this on someone with self respect. This guy messed up hard.
puaSenator 11y ago
Yeah, this move doesn't come out of left field. She made this demand because she thought she could get away with it. He's the type of guy who she think she would leave the house while she fucks another dude. Fucked up shit; I hope OP puts on his fighting gloves.
WeAreAllSheep 11y ago
Yeah this woman has some balls + this dude has no balls. To ask her ex-fiance to gtfo for her Valentine's date? wow just wow.
craylash 11y ago
This is a double homicide/suicide waiting to happen
niceguy_gone_cad 11y ago
There's a story like this behind most murders of women by their man, but the media keeps them well outside the public eye in most cases.
WhiteE350 11y ago
(Loading Gun) Ya sure honey, I just want to talk.
vacuu 11y ago
Don't use a gun, it just gives them an excuse to ban guns.
vengefully_yours 11y ago
Agreed, get creative, use a lawnmower. Not just the blade, use the entire running mower, or a hedge trimmer. Shit yeah a hedge trimmer would be epic.
I'm going to Lowes to get a hedge trimmer because my chainsaw is too nice to mess up.
WhiteE350 11y ago
(Putting 5 copies of our bodies ourselves in a pillow case)
Bibliolicious 11y ago
Sweet. Domestic violence banter!
RedBigMan 11y ago
While domestic violence never solves anything, I can see how a situation like this would drive a dude into a murderous rage. This isnt mere shit testing and cheating. It's some dumb cunt ruining some poor man's life.
It's not too often that I get to see a whole new level of fucked up but I think this is one that's surpassed most fucked up shit I've seen for a while.
niceguy_gone_cad 11y ago
Cause and consequence banter, more exactly.
Offensive_Brute 11y ago
LOL see my response.
ilike2partyhowaboutu 11y ago
"How are you going to be able to fuck him if your vagina is ironed shut, bitch?"
Something like that?
ScannerSloppy 11y ago
If this was me at 26 years, I would have beaten the fucking shit out of this guy. I actually would have gone to his workplace and violently assaulted him in front of all his co-workers.
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That seems blue pill to me.. its the woman's fault, but you are going to put blame on the man? She was attracted and created the situation. If not that one dude, it could have been 100 other dudes.. she decided she needed something more, and she shit on your soul to get it.
By beating the dude, you only reinforced her fucked up control of things. She will probably get off on the drama of it all (men fighting for her, how romantic!)
sweetleef 11y ago
Why, because it's the guy's fault? He's moving in and taking her against her will?
She's the one who set it up. Chances are he didn't even know the situation.
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Why ?
He isnt at fault here, doing that would be incredibly stupid.
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Cgn38 11y ago
Consider he probably does not know you exist, she wont tell him.
So you fuck up an innocent man?
btcnr 11y ago
And you would end up in prison, and would likely pay him a few dozen thousand for pain and suffering, which he would surely win in a civil lawsuit.
You need to learn to control your violent behavior, it rarely solves anything.
Laughing_Jelly_Bean 11y ago
I would wait until he showed up at my house, and I would brain him with a baseball bat as soon as he walked in the door. Tell the cops I thought it was a home invasion.
DAEHateRatheism 11y ago
Isn't that what betas who lose control do?
They snap like those Columbine shooter omegas.
Don't be one of those losers.
EeeeeeevilMan 11y ago
While that might be a generally ill-advised thing to do, there's nothing even remotely beta about being a violent hair-triggered asshole. See: every famous murderer and his groupies.
FloranHunter 11y ago
It is however extremely stupid. Maybe not beta but not in the spirit of self-improvement either.
Nan_Ren 11y ago
That's the kind of fight where even if you're right, and even if you win, you still look like an asshole and you end up in jail. And what do you get out of it, really?
Best thing to do is walk the fuck away, and learn from the experience so that you don't get beat like that again. The new guy will get his in 3 years when she does the same thing to him... he's not a winner here.
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lookingatyourcock 11y ago
No, they'll just think you're crazy and have you escorted off the premises. What is with the anger towards the guy anyway? He is irrelevant, its the girl that chose to be with him instead.
Beltox2pointO 11y ago
Why? Women are women, can't blame a dude he probably has no idea
no_game_player 11y ago
It clearly said in the setup that the bf had met the dude. He has to know. Besides, the chick is probably talking trash about the bf to him anyhow, or trying to. I'd bet gold/BTC against dollars he knows. ;-p
Not that I blame him; he doesn't owe the original OP anything. Just saying, he knows and doesn't care...
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She probably pulled some tricks.. we've all seen it.
'Oh we aren't that serious.. I think it will be ending soon"
"We live together, but hes so disrespectful to me and an asshole! I'm really not happy with him and need a real man!"
The lies they tell are endless.. she will convince the most good-natured man that he is in the clear to fuck without a moral dilema
DasWood 11y ago
As a man who had fucked 5 or 6 married women in a 1 year span I have to agree. The ones who weren't pretending to be single talked shit about their husbands constantly. The ones who pretended to be single, once you catch them out they ALL resorted to talking shit about their husbands.
Don't blame a dog for being a dog and don't blame a woman for being a woman.
WhiteE350 11y ago
She is retarded. She is shitting where she eats and works. What a dumb fucking cunt.
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Women love the smell of their own shit. It might even be an aphrodisiac for them, reading between the lines of this situation.
[deleted] 11y ago
I really wish I could be surprise by things like this. That's why the Red Pill is hard to shallow. You have to uproot your belief structure regarding females. That sweet fiancee of yours will ditch if she can upgrade or if you allowed yourself to become a beta. AWALT
Sirinon 11y ago
As much as you don't want it to be true I see it regularly irl and it is backed up by examples of the same shit happening across the world via the internet.... sad but AWALT.
Kushdoctor 11y ago
I would be like fine bring him round and when he opens the door I would fuck him up
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Julian_Berryman 11y ago
You know, I'm wondering if the move was actually a chicken shit way for her to try and end the relationship. I guess she didn't count on the dude tagging along...
rebuildingMyself 11y ago
Just another shit test
slcjosh 11y ago
Women do. Remember the no sense of honor thing we talk about a lot here? Bitches man.
LukeMooney 11y ago
yup - absolutely no honour. Can't honour agreed time to meet for date. Can't honour monogamy. Can't honour contracts (marriage). Can't even tell the truth to themselves. Complete lack of honour. Probably exaggerated culturally, i.e. Japanese/Chinese have a big thing culturally about honour and losing "face" - would expect their women to be slightly less promiscuous, compared to westernised women who are basically scum, in shiny packets with expensive price tags.
BloodPill 11y ago
Correct. To men, honor and loyalty are concrete ideals. To women, they're abstract concepts.
A good parallel to illustrate this idea is thinking in a different language. Imagine thinking in, say, Russian (or any other language you don't currently speak). To some random Muscovite out there, those Russian words have prosody, meaning, and vigor. To you, they mean nothing. You can abstractly grasp how they might make carry certain meaning for other people, but for you, they don't mean shit.
Same goes with women and loyalty. They understand it exists, they know what it means, and they know what they need to do in order to be considered a "loyal person." In the end though, it's just an empty word.
vengefully_yours 11y ago
No consequence nor repercussions from them being disloyal or dishonorable, someone somewhere will still want to fuck them. Besides, they always left an abusive asshole deadbeat shitlord neck beard loser for the wonderful dick they now suck. That dick stays wonderful until a better one comes along, then its a deadbeat neck beard... You get the idea.
MrStinky 11y ago
That is brilliant. Thanks for the legit epiphany
godstriker8 11y ago
I agree, he probably had this a long time coming, and didn't see the signs.
merlestreep 11y ago
I would've been out of there in like 2 minutes. Don't stand your ground. She's not worth it. Move on to the next one.
DasWood 11y ago
Hey guys. Breach of promise is still a thing. He needs to sue the ever loving shit out of her. I bet he could come away with an award in the tens of thousands of dollars for having quit his job for her, moving for her and her intentional infliction of emotional harm.
After she isn't able to pay he can walk down to the court house for a writ of execution. All her assets seized. Bank accounts, cars, residences. If that isn't enough, they revoke her drivers license. She will be jobless and homeless. She will come crawling back and he can have the last laugh. He can imagine himself standing above her laughing.
too_long_didnt_read 11y ago
Holy shit, there are few better examples of how woman really think and behave than this right here.
She fell in love in circumstances when he was more alpha, then she had a chance to elevate herself with an awesome new job in a new place. This was handled poorly and totally fucked with their relationship dynamic. Suddenly he's whining like a beta during a move, unemployed and living in her apartment while she plays husband to his whiny unattractive housewife.
What happens? She dumps his ass for the near first alpha that makes a move and now she'll discard him and their 4 years easier than the chewing gum wrapper she tossed in the bin earlier.
This is a lesson to us all in maintaining our frame at all times and maintaining our relationship dynamic in our favour. Giving up everything and moving with her to a place where she'd be top dog was a beta mistake. He should have broken it off and stayed put unless he could also have a better job lined up before he moved.
jolly--roger 11y ago
there's nothing remotely 'alpha' about this guy, so there's no point to more 'alpha' or less 'alpha', whatever that means
sd4473 11y ago
I don't think women are the only ones who pull these kinds of stunts.
NeoBushi 11y ago
Don't assume the new guy is an alpha. Some chicks jump from beta to beta because the true alpha is actually the woman. As fucked up as that is to say...
vengefully_yours 11y ago
She can just perceive the new guy as higher status and she will swing, doesn't matter what he actually is only that she sees him as an improvement. Women are shitty judges of value, its why they are so easily manipulated.
heist_of_saint_graft 11y ago
Absolutely true. No idea why you are getting downvoted. You guys never met a woman who's a professional ballbuster?
Beltox2pointO 11y ago
Alpha females would never settle for a beta.
NeoBushi 11y ago
Who says she is settling?
O3EAN 11y ago
Tell my step-mum that.
johnnight 11y ago
Did you not read the part where it says the guy is "a a total asshole. Very full of himself artistic type"?
nsummy 11y ago
I know a few guys that are artistic and full of themselves. They are absolute beta hipsters who think they are better than everyone.
dsav2 11y ago
He was never alpha. A woman would never act like this to a man with self respect, since there's a chance that she could get hurt.
What you see here is that the guy stopped being a provider, so she openly fucks other men instead of doing it behind his back.
What most people from that thread don't realize is that she didn't 'suddenly' become a bitch, much in the same way that Einstein didn't suddenly become good at physics.
No, she was that way for a long time. Now that she got a great job and he's relying on her for support is when you see her true colors.
There's no way someone would cheat on someone so brazenly, not unless she's been practicing.
WAFC 11y ago
LOL, Red Pill isn't The Force. Nothing will 100% protect you from the whims of 'the fairer sex.'
Humble_harpdarp 11y ago
This comment is the right idea.
tallwheel 11y ago
Whole thing was a shit test, dude. He should have said, "Fuck no I'm not leaving my home and my job for you!"
UnimpressedAsshole 11y ago
What do you mean that a woman would never act like this to a man with self respect since there's a chance that she could get hurt?
lolol42 11y ago
A man with self-respect would tell her to go fuck herself, and would just leave. She knows that she can get him to just acquiesce to her demands.
Manuel_S 11y ago
She could get thrown through her own windshield. Head first.
dsav2 11y ago
People with self respect tend to have a lot of pride. You don't test the limits of people with pride since that will usually lead to violence.
Bullies go after victims who don't fight back for a reason. In this case, she is bullying the beta because she knows she can get away with it.
If her boyfriend is a professional boxer, she sure as hell won't do this, I can guarantee you that.
vengefully_yours 11y ago
Some are not so smart. Ex wrestler, combat veteran, power lifter, have PTSD, and my ex thought I would support her and her desperate omega 'soulmate' and was utterly amazed when I kicked her out. They later set me up and used the courts to extort money from me. His 150lb ass is terrified of me, so he runs to the cops for everything.
If I really wanted to, police sure as fuck wouldn't stop me. They would he there to clean up after, but no way they could prevent it.
Neither one of them is worth the legal hassle of doing anything, she's a loser, so is he. They fit far better than she did with me, she was an albatross around my neck.
morsX 11y ago
The respect for a real man goes beyond their threat of violence though. For women, disrespecting an alpha would mean getting kicked to the curb with no warning at all. If a woman understands that you will not tolerate that behavior, it will simply not happen. Girls do not disappoint their fathers and the respect women should feel for their man is similar (if not the same).
kearvelli 11y ago
It is the same. 100%.
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kearvelli 11y ago
I mean the same kind of respect. I totally agree with morsX point about violence. That's not respect. That's fear.
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They were there 4 weeks bud get real.
[deleted] 11y ago
My immediate thoughts of what this chap should do involve mischief: if he's in the apartment with them he should be with them, or at least constantly interrupting them, even when they decide to go for a bit of privacy (presumably it's his bedroom too), "it's okay, I've seen her in the buff already".
Seriously though, it really does depress, though not surprise me that the woman here put herself and her needs way above the man's, and as soon as he's seen as lower-value everything he is and everything he's done mean absolutely nothing.
Of course if she'll do it to this chap she'll presumably do it to the new man too somewhere down the line.
Sufferix 11y ago
If he was or is in California or one of those places with ridiculous marital/cohabitation laws he could try to get money out of her ass. Then he could spend it on a new bitch because he's going to repeat the process.
Edit: Why isn't he mad? He says he's too ashamed and embarrassed to even tell his family. What a joke.
Espada18 11y ago
She literally fucked him over from left and right, I'd go batshit on this woman. Considering that he's got nothing to lose. She isolated him, humiliated him, and then bent him over a fucked him straight in the ass. Imagining being in his shoe makes me sick, of course all this could have been avoided if he was smart about it from the beginning.
Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 11y ago
This story is so common, it's boring to read. If you give a woman power over your existence, she's going to use it.
She's got the money, she's paying the rent. If he doesn't get his ass out now, however he can, she'll probably have him thrown in jail.
The previous 4 years of this guy's life don't matter. He could have been superman, made millions, supported her every whim, and even been the largest manly badass in the universe. But the very second he gave his woman power over his existence, her mind began rewriting history. Suddenly, their relationship has always been a little lackluster. Suddenly, she feels like she's always been solving his problems for him. Suddenly, the history they have together was never a "real connection" like she feels for some new guy. In her mind, their relationship was never right, and he was always an unemployed, helpless dependent, and only now, in the arms of a new man, does she realize that. She's already rewritten the story in her head.
That's how the female subconscious works. How she feels, right now, in this moment, is truth.
MachiavellianRed 11y ago
The truth is fucked up.
Big_Dump 11y ago
New guy is going to show up in a Fedora and take her to Pound Town.
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I had to re-read this because I wondered why the guy would take her to the 99p shop. I guess this is a UK thing, Pound Town sounds too much like Poundland.
johnnight 11y ago
If he stays in the apartment alone, it's gonna be a crime scene.
Now, if he gets himself a call girl for that night, things might turn interesting...
RS73 11y ago
"Alright, you assholes can fuck in the bedroom. I'm gonna be filling Amber-from-Delight-Escorts' holes here in the front room." Him and the call girl - naked, drunk, and fucking all over the house. That would put a dent in the bitch's Valentine's Day.
johnnight 11y ago
"Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it."
chill_geddy 11y ago
Shouts out to patrick Bateman hahaha
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WhiteE350 11y ago
He can watch and beat off for twenty bucks.
johnnight 11y ago
Bill Murray could pull that shit off, not this guy.
heist_of_saint_graft 11y ago
That's the best Wes Anderson movie never made.
Nan_Ren 11y ago
As soon as the power dynamic shifted, she lost any interest in him. That will happen EVERY TIME. Never turn in your weapons - by that I mean your income and your independence. I don't care if you think she's a unicorn - never get into a situation where you become dependent on her because 99% of the time, she will turn on you.
I learned this the hard way a few years ago. I had supported a woman through college, was the primary breadwinner, and she dumped me when she was a month away from graduation. In addition to the wasted time, I got a $10,000 co-signed loan for my trouble which I'll likely have to pay off in the end. As an aside, I found out around that time that her mom wasn't a widow like I'd thought... she was divorced. She had divorced my ex's dad while he was dying of cancer.
Karma worked out though. My ex is now 35, 50 lbs overweight, is a single mom, and is making $10/hr as a cashier because her degree wasn't the gold mine she expected it to be. I'm doing just fine. It was all worth it to me... I dodged a bullet (we were engaged)... and more importantly I learned a vital lesson.
bsutansalt 11y ago
Another big gun is spinning plates. Even if you're in a serious/monogamous relationship you can still have women in your life that demonstrates you have options and she can easily be replaced, and if need be gives you an easy access to dread game.
Sirinon 11y ago
be sure to rub it in if you see her again.
Nan_Ren 11y ago
Nah... I mean I get where you're coming from, but doing that would indicate that I give a fuck about where she is in life when I really don't. I listen to news about her in the same way I'd listen to news of a civil revolt in Myanmar, or something like that. It's news, but not something I think about much.
Besides, in a situation like this where you've so obviously come out ahead, there's no point. There's nothing that needs to be pointed out. She knows where I am and where she is, and she knows that I know. In a position like that, me just being in the same room with her is enough to rub it in.
vengefully_yours 11y ago
Agreed, but I really enjoy schadenfreude. Don't give a shit about the exs, but I take pride in knowing I am doing well despite their best efforts to ruin me. I'm the best thing that ever happened to most of them. Sometimes its good to be friends with them years later, they tell you the most interesting things.
Sirinon 11y ago
You are right, Honestly just your existence probably does the job... At least that's the story with an Ex of mine (Similar scenario).
jjakers88 11y ago
No way, rub it in. Make here so miserable she slits her wrist. This be the better man line is BS
rapreaper 11y ago
Why bother?
RaiseOnce 11y ago
Schadenfreude.
cozycoffeecake 11y ago
While I am a sadistic individual whom would normally advocate rubbing it in for the sake of causing the other person pain, it's more complicated than that.
Once you have ceased communication with a female like that, the moment you give her any attention WHATSOEVER, she becomes the winner. Because you are giving her attention. If a female like that was still hung up on you in some sort of way, she would NOT have to be told by you what you were doing. Women talk to other women incessantly about EVERYTHING. Did you do something weird in bed with some random female? Word on the block, that tidbit of information has already been spread throughout the female network, to females who may or may not even know who you are but now they know your name and that you did some weird fucked up shit.
So just leave it be. Allowing someone like that time of your day is like letting a wound fester and not heal.
sting129 11y ago
I hate to admit this, but the guy's story kept me up pretty late last night. I just couldn't go to sleep. What a gut-punch. Hoping it's fake or something.
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People treat you exactly as well as you make them. Demand no respect, you are making everyone feel disgust and disdain for you.
This girl was likely more of a cunt than average, but this guy dug his own grave.
Tastysalad101 11y ago
If that was me most likely i'd be going to prison after valentines day...
Xein 11y ago
Don't worry guys. This woman has made one small mistake: She thinks that her new job, increased salary, and prestige will translate into bagging a higher quality guy.
Nope. Any high SMV guy is gonna pump n dump and isn't going to give 2 shits about her fancy new job. She'll crash and burn when that sinks in. She might even miss that beta before it's all said and done
sd4473 11y ago
No kidding, this artist guy just witnessed first-hand how she threw away her boyfriend/fiance of 4 years in a span of just 4 weeks. He'd have to be nuts to consider any type of relationship beyond fucking (and there's no doubt they've been fucking).
vengefully_yours 11y ago
Only an omega will keep a cheater who cheated with him on her ex, OK well a beta probably will, but only if they are desperate.
sway_usa 11y ago
Funny. Women always try to reach the top of the SMV mountain by moving side-to-side.
dvrzero 11y ago
It works in skyrim...
vengefully_yours 11y ago
Ah ha! That's why I keep dying.
ENTP 11y ago
I swallowed the red pill, and what I discovered is that I'd rather be single and "lonely", with the occasional one night stand than invest an iota of energy into someone who is, more likely than not, a soulless, alpha seeking robot.
Constant shit tests and the threat of betrayal at every turn? No thanks. I'd rather enjoy my life.
Cyralea 11y ago
Perfectly valid decision, given the circumstances in North America.
30303030303030 11y ago
So once again, asshole gets the girl and the loving and caring boyfriend gets dumped, cheated on lets be honest..., and his face rubbed in shit..
Regular scenario, he shat the bed when he went after her. The only reason it could work is if there was no asshole/higher status male interested in her. If she's half attractive that not gonna happen so op gets killed by the girl he supposed to marry.
And she has the balls to ask the guy to their place for V-day to get fucked right in her fiancees face, after 4 years. Learn it already, WOMEN DESPISE BETAS.
benos4752 11y ago
It could also work if he was in a position where he didn't have poor credit and had money and/or a job that allowed him to continue making his living independent of their location.
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WAFC 11y ago
He deserves this? For the crime of listening to what people have told him his entire life? For daring to love someone? Give me a fucking break.
MockingDead 11y ago
You can admit they deserve the lesson and still feel bad that the lesson must be taught so.
semigod__ 11y ago
what a stupid idiot, thinking the scorpion wont sting him.
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hashtagpound2point2 11y ago
Any wise man knows not to drop his life to cling to some girl.
When you take away the providing that you do as a beta, you just become the child that she takes care of that also has to fuck.
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phaed 11y ago
Regardless if he himself wise or not, he knows what wise men know.
jjakers88 11y ago
Honestly the only advice I can think of is to shoot both of them
Hardparty 11y ago
If you give a woman your balls, you can expect her to use them.
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Shes a cunt and if the new guy shows up to where he rests his head they deserve each other.
If I were this dude I wouldn't let this fuck into my house.
suscitare 11y ago
Artists are professional social climbers.
LasherDeviance 11y ago
The real breath of fresh air is the fact that the comments aren't all like, "He should leave because she wants/deserves blah blah blah!"
The comments contain some real Red Pill dread type shit in them.
smallpoxinLA 11y ago
To be totally honest i would kill both the girl and the artistic douche, who is certainly just a douche, not an alpha.
tangman 11y ago
There is a significant probability that this new guy will dump her after he's done with her, and she might come running back to OP after realizing what a huge mistake she made.
chunkit1234 11y ago
that sumbitch is gonna murder the two of them tomorrow night. I guarantee it.
Offensive_Brute 11y ago
noloss on all three counts. I have no love for treacherous cunts, or shameless opportunistic men, or bitch ass dudes. The world will be better without all three.
chunkit1234 11y ago
no doubt. i don't see anything good coming from him being backed into a corner like that.
Offensive_Brute 11y ago
a bitch does something like that and aman kills himself and society just treat it like oh well.
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Well, that's some murder-worthy shit right there.
Sturmgeist781 11y ago
Wow. This story hurts....
Ferinex 11y ago
Wow. If his name is on the lease, he has every right to refuse entry to a guest. If he doesn't want to watch her date him in front of him, fine, don't. Don't let him in the damn place. What's wrong with this pussy?
testerod 11y ago
Agreed... Not only that, he should find two high class hookers and Invite them over for VD Day and have a threesome in the living room right in front of them.
Offensive_Brute 11y ago
I'm leaving bitch. in the back of a squad car after I trash the apartment and choke you til I smell shit.
I don't mean to promote violence, but god damn where the fuckdo these people find the patience to deal with some of the shit they go through? I'm not a violent man. I'm actually really relaxed and easy going. To the point where a lack of "give a fuck" is a real issue in my life, but you come at me like that, and theres gonna be some ugly scorched earth type shit happening.
I suppose the whole situation could have been avoided if the dude wasn't such a pussy in the first place.
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MockingDead 11y ago
Yes. We do. We need to accept that /u/Offensive_Brute anger is valid and not dismiss it. Is he actually performing Violence? No? Then let him speak.
Further, you must be new. We don't concern troll nor to we whimper like a child at the mere mention of violence.
I suggest you take your own advice.
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MockingDead 11y ago
Wow. You seem angry. This sort of anger really isn't red pill. rather than get your panties in a twist you ought get over it, move on, and quit being a bitch.
And I wasn't condoning violence. I was condoning his right to feel violent. So far he hasn't killed anyone and anyone who uses his comment to commit murder probably is already unhinged.
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MockingDead 11y ago
You seem really mad that we have differing opinions. And being a bitch is not taking your own advice.
I would remove my head from my ass, but I am trying to see the world from your point of view.
violent_frame 11y ago
I'm sorry but you are completely wrong about no violence being done to the beta in this story.
Feminine violence is sanctioned where as masculine violence is not. There is such a thing as fighting words.
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violent_frame 11y ago
So this all falls on the man, and none of the blame goes on the woman? She's not being aggressive at all?
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violent_frame 11y ago
So he deserves all evil she does to him? Am I understanding you correctly?
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violent_frame 11y ago
I cannot really put my thumb on what I find so unacceptable in your stance. I feel that it's high time that everyone begin talking about the evil done by women, instead of just saying they can't help it because of feels. This is totally bullshit. Any man is better off by realizing that he is not deserving of these evil deeds and act accordingly.
I fight evil when I encounter it, I piss on it, I throw imprecations and I will hurt it.
I feel like you believe you have entirely too much control over the evil of others especially women, that's what it seems like to me.
Offensive_Brute 11y ago
concern troll. What TRP doesnt need is people telling people what TRP needs. This isn't /r/mensrights. I'm not here as part of a political movement, and truthfully I dont care if other men take the red pill. They can take it or leave it if they please.
I'm saying, and this is a factual statement, if some woman saw fit to treat me that way, I would lose my composure.
I dunno what kinda life you've lived but take it from me. a physical beating is less painful and less traumatic than this shit.
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violent_frame 11y ago
Oh heeeeellll no, you just 'real maned' him.
Fuck off.
Offensive_Brute 11y ago
do you know where the fuck you are dude? Some times people come to TRP and they forget where the fuck they are. This is the cock and balls of the manosphere. Take your "real men do this" bullshit to facebook son.
Its about honor my good man. This man wasn't dumped. dumped aint shit. hes devalued, disrespected, dishonored, and humiliated. God bless him for having more restraint than me.
a-ko 11y ago
In any other situation I'd disagree with you, but sitting here and reading what happened to this dude infuriates me just reading the text. I didn't even go through it.
I would most definitely lose composure if this happened. I don't know what that would involve. I'm glad I don't have to.
Offensive_Brute 11y ago
me too dude. like I said. I'm not a violent guy. I gotta be pushed to extremes to lose my cool.
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Offensive_Brute 11y ago
what are you a woman pretending to me a man here? You're acting like a woman.
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Offensive_Brute 11y ago
everyones got a breaking point. Men suppressing this kinda bullshit is why the male suicide rate is so high.
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alfabro91 11y ago
Lets not forget that the man absolutely deserved this. Look at this quote from him:
That really tells it all. What kind of a spineless, pathetic "man" needs to ask a bunch of strangers on the internet what to do with his life when the answer is so obvious and clear?
You can't expect a woman OR a man to respect a "man" who acts like a doormat.
WeAreAllSheep 11y ago
I feel bad for him...I think he's probably just shocked this happened and seeking some comfort. It's unfortunate that the only outlet he has is the internet.
He needs a splash in the face obviously, but but he got was getting chained to concrete bricks and tossed into the pacific ocean.
MockingDead 11y ago
Remember, 95% of men today have been brainwashed by Feminism to not stand up and have boundaries.
SadFace959 11y ago
The lack of anger is shocking to me. I probably would have been in jail after an incident like this.
WeAreAllSheep 11y ago
This is the sort of stuff that causes a guy to put on a Bane mask and start fucking shit up as revenge. This is the sort of stuff that ends up in the news as "A jittled man decapitates his ex-fiance and her lover..."
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This is so unfortunate to hear, and hopefully he'll learn from it, instead of double down and pull a NAWALT rationalization.
TVTestPattern 11y ago
Good troll... or a crappy situation.
If you are so emotionally invested in this girl to let if mess up then so be it. I'd sit in my living room and enjoy myself like any other night myself.
Just sayin'
Laughing_Jelly_Bean 11y ago
Hmm...this is likely a troll.
Lets_get_Medical 11y ago
Holy shit. Some women are brave.
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No more brave than a 5th grade bully picking on the smallest kid in class
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30303030303030 11y ago
It's always the same, it's textbook, woman is higher status than her bf/fiancee/husband and suddenly she cheats on him/dumps him on the spot. Still shocking to the blue pill crowd.
We had here forbes or times, I don't remember, article about how wall street women are embarrassed with their stay at home husbands. Not that these white knight idiots won't pull nawalt on it no matter how much proof they get hit with.
Woman can't be of higher status than her man and be attracted to him. It can work if she's old/ugly but that's only because there are no other men willing to fuck her.
WeAreAllSheep 11y ago
link to that forbes article?
phaed 11y ago
If she is old/ugly she is no longer of higher status, so yea there is no way it can work.
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Wow. That is some bull
mbillion 11y ago
yeah I read that in relationship advice - actually felt bad for OP then I just realized it was just another in an ample line of examples that display exactly what TRP says
redpillgirl 11y ago
WHY would you ever put yourself in a situation where you don't have any choices?
ALWAYS plan for the worst, even when you're hoping for the best. Good god. Can you imagine if she did this AFTER the wedding? Thank FUCK it happened before hand.
In a relationship, it's great to be supportive and loving, but I cannot imagine EVER putting myself in a situation where i'm in a new place, with no friends, no job, no money and no options.
Poor schmuck.
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You have to set yourself up so when it all goes to shit you can just go "I'm off" and walk away with confidence, knowing you can just carry on elsewhere.
General_Fear 11y ago
Women are nothing more than hypergamy and Briffault's Law. A man is nothing more than an tool. The language speaks for itself. "Your the provider, you bring home the bacon." In other words, you are a human ATM machine. You are there to pay the rent.
Don't be surprised when a woman tosses a man aside because she found a better deal.
Remember. A shark is not evil when it eats a human flesh. It's just feeding.
Clauderoughly 11y ago
I asked my gf (now wife) to move to another country and another city to be with me, but I did it on the stipulation that she had other career options her for here as well.
I didn't make her move JUST for my benefit, to a city she didn't like. She had other reasons to come here too. I just happened to be a major one.
If you are a guy you NEVER EVER change cities for a woman ! Never ! This is the worst outcome of One-itis!
feriksen 11y ago
I see what you are saying, but have to disagree with the "never". I did just that, moved to another country for my wife. However that was a conscious decision on my part. My business makes me travel a lot, so it really does not matter where I live. Her living in her home country (in EE), makes it easier for her when I am away. Also gives me peace of mind, as none in our social circle there would even think of putting horns on me (not loyalty, but basic understanding of what would happen..).
But yes, I understand, and agree with the general sentiment if moving makes you loose all you options.
werehusky 11y ago
Briffault's Law.
key402 11y ago
Jesus christ...I see a new one of these stories on here everyday, but this one made me feel sick to my stomach. As much as it was this dude's fault, I think every man on here who just read that story felt a unanimous cringe of pain. God damn, after 4 years she tells him to gtfo while she fucks Mr. Alpha on Valentine's Day, that is fuckin cruel.
FortunateBum 11y ago
The lesson here is never believe what comes out of a woman's mouth. Not only will she "change her mind", most of what comes out if verbal diarrhea anyway. Lies, I don't even know if I'd go that far. Women's relationship with physical reality isn't anything like ours.
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I learned that the hard way too. I had a ex that said she didn't lie rather she change her mind when I caught her in a lie.
dr_bloodmoney 11y ago
I don't have the heart to tell him it's almost guaranteed she's already fucked around with guy.
infapwetrust 11y ago
Does it even matter? If you realize that you don't own a women and that it's just your turn, then it hurts MUCH less when you get cheated on
sway_usa 11y ago
Would it really matter at this point?
lillojohn 11y ago
Just get another woman and date with her too in the same house.
sniperhiding 11y ago
When I read this, I think of my grandfather's generation. They would NEVER have put up with this. They called the shots. My grandfather's were both players. Sadly, they didn't pass it down.
One of the benefits of being older, I got a brief glimpse of that generation, born 1910s, before they all died. Sadly I never appreciated them until I went red pill. Before I would judge them and say they were selfish cave men.
insideman83 11y ago
Another advantage your grandpappy had was there was no safety net for women sleeping around. If they fucked up they had to go live with the Nuns because no one else wanted to take care of them.
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sniperhiding 11y ago
I remember my grandpa when he would see one of the grandsons not act like a boy should (not being tough, crying, speaking real shy and quiet, afraid to fight kid down the street), he would give that Wtf look, like "what is wrong with that boy?"
strimpboi 11y ago
Generation X and Y got fucked really hard on that. I remember asking myself "why are things like this" all the time, but man, if I didn't get caught up in being raised in that shit, I would have a good 10 prime years back.
WhiteE350 11y ago
The baby boomers fucked everything up.
nsummy 11y ago
Sorry but this is bullshit. Our grandfathers could do this because they could provide for the whole family on one income. Now you have companies fucking you over, paying you as little as possible, health insurance, shitty 401k's etc. Thank the Republican party.
Unless you have an extremely high end job, you are not going to be providing 2 cars, a big house, vacations, and all of the other stuff on a single income.
heist_of_saint_graft 11y ago
Try explaining that to a woman. They still want the man to be the main breadwinner. This is why Hypergamy is emotionally killing this generation of men, while our grandfathers took care of business.
TooTurnt 11y ago
Careful, this sub is staunchly conservative. They equate masculinity with modern American conservatism. It's fucking retarded. The Republican Party 1980 and onward have blown the economy up. Paul Volker was the only reason you could remotely call Reagan's first term a success, and after that the cupboard is bare. It's mind-numbing.
Patrick5555 11y ago
Republicans? Try statists! A state that manipulates our money into something that loses value, a state that restricts competition in sectors like healthcare and courts, a state that steals from all who produce to fund wars and make debt! You'll find republicans and democrats are both soundly statists, and would love nothing more than to restrict the marketplace
nsummy 11y ago
I was referring more to pro-corporation, anti-union beliefs of the Republican party. I'm not saying they are solely to blame but it used to be you could work in a factory for decent pay, decent benefits, vacation, and a pension. Now corporations have been given free reign and will do anything to fuck over employees. There is a reason the wage difference between CEOs and workers is huge and growing further away every year.
fruitofmyloom 11y ago
lol, one would think being in TRP would open your eyes to this BS as well but I guess you still have one more pill to swallow.
nsummy 11y ago
Oh really? yah, the TRP opened me up to voting for Sarah Palin. Get serious
fruitofmyloom 11y ago
No. The idea that any party actually gives a shit about you.
On_The_Prowl 11y ago
Suuuuure, feminism, a society wrecking liberal construct if ever there was one, has nothing to do with it... Conservatives were the one's screaming for more women in the workplace, right? Conservatives were the ones insisting there's nothing inferior about single parent families, or any other weird arrangement without a proper masculine role model, right? Conservatives are the ones pushing "gender studies", and starting gay/straight alliances and sensitivity groups, and women's rights groups permeating campus culture everywhere, right? It's Conservatives who scoff at traditional family as the cornerstone of society as outmoded, old-fashioned, and obsolete, right? It's Conservatives who balk at American exceptionalism and rugged individualism, and advance an agenda of government dependency, right? It's Conservatives who are going to vote Hillary "no soul" Clinton into office, largely because she is a woman, not a great leader or problem solver, right?
Get the fuck out of here with that lefty bullshit. The good ole days had a strong conservative backbone. All this "progress" has flipped gender roles on their head, destroyed the institution of marriage, devalued the family unit, and marginalized boys at school and men in the workplace. Don't look to God to fix it though, he's been disowned too in this age of "enlightenment". Fuck the patriarchy, right? You might wanna think shit through before you cast that next ballot. From what I see, most people under 30 have been brainwashed by a steady stream of propaganda, and have no reference point to understand just how far from true America they've gotten.
I'm not buying what the GoP's selling 100%, but the DNC's vision is for the short sighted or blind. Maybe if they stopped importing illegal immigrants young men would be building houses next summer, instead of living in their parents' basement while working three nights a week as a metrosexual barrista. If anyone's churning out betas it's the Democrats and their policies.
nsummy 11y ago
Sorry but in your rants against women you failed to even see my point. If you think a guy (or girl for that matter) can't earn a decent living because women are in the workplace you are sorely misguided. This has nothing to do with feminisim and everything to do with corporate greed and the crushing of unions.
Who makes up most of the unions? Men. Who makes up most of the executives? men. This has zero to do with women..
On_The_Prowl 11y ago
It's you who failed to see the point. If you think men haven't been displaced in the workplace and education, or made to question and subdue the qualities we were admiring abount men of yore, thanks to liberal ideology like feminism being crammed down their throat, then you are sorely misguided.
If you think criticism of feminism is a rant against women, you need to learn to distinguish better.
Crony capitalism, not to be confused with capitalism, hurts most of us, but don't act like Republicans have that market cornered when Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, and Obama is bailing out banksters left and right, picking winners in the automotive industry, and harassing businesses who support conservatism with the IRS.
And don't act like corporatism is the only thing hurting jobs. People and businesses are fleeing California and New York because of the oppressive business environment created by liberal policies. Encouraging illegal immigration in order to grow their hopeful future base and cling to power is disgusting and hurts workers and employers who do things honestly. The ACA is burdening businesses large and small, preventing hiring, risk taking, and growth. High taxes and over regulation discourages investment and pushes jobs offshore.
Unions have their place but they prevent competition. Unions are how our kids get shitty educations from tenured bad teachers. Unions come to serve themselves more than workers, bully workers who don't want to join, and force salaries that aren't sustainable in changing conditions.
It's a complex problem and valid criticism can be leveled at both sides, but laying it on Republicans is a crock of shit. Plenty of liberal policies and ideologies have contributed to the poor economy and increasingly low quality of jobs.
nsummy 11y ago
Dude you won't find any company that owns factories against illegal immigration. The fat cats at the top want to pay people as little as possible. To say liberal policies is to blame is bullshit. You must have forgotten the bailout bush orchestrated. Guys at the top getting millions in bonuses while the plebs get laid off. Classic.
The funny thing is, no one is getting displaced in the workplace by women. They are getting displaced by factories overseas. The people who aren't getting displaced are seeing their wages plummet.
On_The_Prowl 11y ago
Like I said, it's a compound problem. You' re the one who said "thank republicans". You wanna start that snarky partisan bullshit, I'm gonna call your ass on it and then some.
You think there are no democrat fat cats and 1%ers? Get real. Ask Michelle Obama why she wore a $12000 dress the other night while her husband has SNAP card ads running in Mexico. You think the DNC isn't buying votes at the expensse of the quality of our country? You think allowing non tax paying cheap labor is good for the American worker? My brother would be doing a lot better than scraping by if his construction bids weren't undercut by a horde of five foot frijole eaters at every turn. It's not just pineapple picking and chicken plucking jobs that are lost to this bullshit.
How can you say men aren't competing with women in the workplace? Women come with tits and ass and work for less money. "Sorry Joe, you're a fine candidate, but Becky Sue is cheap and might let me stick it in her if I play my cards right." How can you be so blind to this stuff?
nsummy 11y ago
There are outliers on both sides of the spectrum, but as a whole, the republican party is anti-worker, anti-union, pro-business. Whenever there is talk of raising the minimum wage, who is against it? Republicans. Whenever there is talk of worker benefits or minimum standards its always the republicans caring more about the company than the workers. Mitt Romney even made the asinine comment that "Corporations are people."
Essentially republicans are against any form of welfare unless its for corporations, then they give out tax breaks, loans, etc and it never trickles down to the workers. As far as women undercutting jobs, I don't know where you live but I don't see too many women at constuction sites, oil fields, car factories, or any other "unskilled" jobs that used to pay a decent living.
ashman89 11y ago
If he reacted by physically punching her in the face causing grievous bodily harm, I would condone it, because punching her face and breaking her teeth in, is nowhere near as painful as the manupulation she is using against him.
jolly--roger 11y ago
behavior like this gets women beat
so.. kudos to the guy for not ripping her arms off i guess..
Offensive_Brute 11y ago
i dont know if hes a bitch or a saint, but hes something I'm not.
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rebuildingMyself 11y ago
Her wanting him to move was a big shit test he failed. I bet there were warning signs all over the place adn she was hoping he'd disappear from her life magically.
Never trust a woman. Trust a woman to be a woman.
cerebralfountain 11y ago
Bahahahahahhaaaaaaaa. This guy needs to strap on a pair. He'll be too emotionally devastated to defend his home and his honour? I feel sorry for such a helpless man. He needs to stand his ground and tell the asshole he is not welcome at the very least.
heist_of_saint_graft 11y ago
This guy is failing THE SHIT TEST AT THE END OF THE WORLD.
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The fact that he still refers to her as his fiance as if there's some chance that their relationship isn't over just makes me cringe.
redpillta 11y ago
Sounds like this old bitch started her own karate class and thinks she's ready to be sensei. She flips one guy and now expects this new guy to spar with her? Ha! He's gonna split after the first lesson and she's gonna be stuck with nothing but an empty dojo...
Deebo33 11y ago
I hit this guy up and told him that he needs to get the hell out of there or he will end up going to jail, as with most things guys like this don't grow balls until it's too late and there is only more losing if you continue to play the game.
I let him know that she doesn't love him anymore. She is not the same woman that may have loved him, and that if he continues to fight and act childish it will cause her to think that she is justified in her current actions and, when she calls the cops ordering him out of the house.
Dude needs to leave yesterday
Nan_Ren 11y ago
I told him the same thing. To GTFO... to listen to his brain and not his emotions. He got beat here, and it's a no-win at this point.
And he needs to look at the good side... he dodged a bullet... could he imagine if he married this bitch? He's only 26 and he has the opportunity to gain some real wisdom from this.
SadFace959 11y ago
Time to swallow the pill
tehwankingwalruses 11y ago
If I was in his situation, I'd end up knifing someone if some dude came over like that.
Offensive_Brute 11y ago
I'm leaving, and you're leaving and nobodys coming over for valentines day, cause this is gonna be a fucking crime scene.
roue_ 11y ago
Terrible advice telling him to stay put. It will achieve nothing. This guy just needs to pack his stuff and take the next flight back to his city and get his old job back. If she's willing to throw away a 4 year relationship for a guy she just met .....
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Offensive_Brute 11y ago
he was too entrenched in the bitch position to next anybody. he was the woman in their relationship. she nexted him.
WeAreAllSheep 11y ago
Well he was engaged to her, so he was invested in the relationship...
Let's be honest, if you heard about your fiance yakking it up with some coworker, your first reaction wouldn't be STFU HO! IT'S OVER!
It might be what you do after a month of this nonsense, but not your first reaction.
fx-115es 11y ago
the problem here is, that you can't see shit, when you on the blue pill.
mbr902000 11y ago
Easiest way to tell if something is up is to ask to borrow her phone. A cheating slut that is supposed to be "in love with you" but in reality is fucking the guy at the office won't let you get within 10 ft of her sext filled phone....
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login_for_no_atheism 11y ago
It's an awful situation because it's pretty much impossible to "NEXT" when you moved away and are 100% reliant on her.
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smithIV 11y ago
Great for the new guy.
nninja 11y ago
Ah man I laughed when I read the headline but the story is sad. Poor guy. What a pussy. Hopefully this will make him a stronger man. But he's clearly always been a pussy, no way she would pull that shit if she didn't know he was spineless. How is he not angry??
Clauderoughly 11y ago
He needs to find, and fuck her;
Then when it doesn't work out with the current guy, tell her to fuck off and buy a cat.
He can make it in a new city, he just needs to get off his arse, find a job (ANY JOB), and get his own space.
This could be the best thing that ever happened to him, if he is smart enough.
I doubt it though.
dr_bloodmoney 11y ago
And the mom, too. Don't forget mom.
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MachiavellianRed 11y ago
Nah you just re framed what claude meant to make it seem bitchy and needy rather than a power grab or act of taking control over a situation.
If someone wrongs you, you have every moral right to enact revenge. I think destroying her the way she destroyed him would be very just.
Girls find you attractive when you're banging all the girls around them, he can really fuck with her head doing this shit, make her second guess her opinion of him and shit, obviously you don't go back to her, but it grants you power over the cunt who wronged you.
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MachiavellianRed 11y ago
I disagree this is a female approach. Soon you'll be saying kissing another chick in-front of your ex girl to make her jealous is a female approach because girls do that shit as well. Guess what? It works when guys do it too. It's called jealousy game. You could go further and posit Machiavellianism is female and therefore guys shouldn't do that either? Again, wrong.
If you hold frame you can do basically whatever the fuck you like. All is fair in love and war.
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MachiavellianRed 11y ago
To sadistically get a kick out of fucking with her, revenge.
Every time a woman fucks with you, your ego takes a hit. You can fill that void with new bitches, sure. But nothing fills that void like fucking the bitch over who caused it to begin with. I endorse both avenues.
MockingDead 11y ago
Wow. The best way to get over a woman is to get under another.
Also, dread game. Since you don't seem to know what it is, you failed the shibboleth.
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MockingDead 11y ago
Didn't he say that? Pick someone else up? If she happens to be a friend of his ex, so much the better.
You seem to want to defend pussy. I suspect you a are a white knight.
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MockingDead 11y ago
Dating her sister sounds like pretty strong game to me. I mean, you game would have to be Bobby Fischer solid to pull it off.
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MockingDead 11y ago
Sometimes revenge isn't petty. And if you can add ot as a sde dish, why not?
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Really disgusting situation, jesus what a cunt.
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pawn her jewelry then punch her in the cunt
newworldorder92 11y ago
simply put its not meant to be, move out, move on, Beta gave up everything to be with someone he believed loved him, lesson learned if it dont work out leave there is someone out there for you
libchh 11y ago
holy fucking shit how cruel they can be
skimdit 11y ago
Unreal. I'd be fearful of my life if I was her. But I guess beta males aren't dangerous until they snap and do a mass shooting or some shit.
heist_of_saint_graft 11y ago
"White people's relationships are the woman whispering emasculating stuff into the guy's ear until one day he kills her." -- Patrice
JRcanReid 11y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXy8AgE7jBo
NeoBushi 11y ago
Whats messed up is in the comments of that post people are suggesting he stay put and let them carry on their V-Day date while he is there in the apartment. LOL how about telling her to scat and if the dude shows up around him he will go berserk.
6TLaRm4g 11y ago
This is a great blue pill example. Not only it shows the pathetic situation, the weakness both mentally and probably physically, the inadequateness of the responses of blue piller, but also the real dangers to man's health and well being in general. It also exposes the brutal behavior of women once she loses not only attraction, but also respect to the man.
SgtSplacker 11y ago
One word, Arson.
machimus 11y ago
Enough! I can't read any more. And the top comments from guys telling him to stick around and "ruin their date"? So he can end up sitting there awkwardly on the couch listening to her screaming while the guy is plowing his fiance, the love of his life? On Valentine's day? Yeah I'm sure that'll feel good for him. Someone put this guy on suicide watch.
nivek7913 11y ago
All I can hope is that he learns from this.
Remember guys, she doesn't love you. No matter how much she says it, women can never love you in the same fashion we can love them. They will turn on you in the drop of a hat.
TRPtruth 11y ago
My response would have been very simple. If he shows up at my door hes going to the hospital.
p_esco 11y ago
I wonder if the OP that posted that story will ever come across TRP. I hope he does.
bama79rolltide 11y ago
He should slap her.
timdo190 11y ago
He should just kill her :) or himself....
jefecaminador1 11y ago
I was thinking more along the lines of going over exactly what she's doing to him and how it shows a complete lack of compassion for him. Then choke her, and whisper in her ear as he does it, how she has chosen to throw away their lives together, and now he has chosen to throw away their lives separately. Tell her that today is the last day of her life. Once she is unconscious, make sure she's still breathing and leave. Place a note on her telling her how he has shown more compassion than she ever did to him by letting her live.
RS73 11y ago
And the story she would tell from then on would be about her "abusive boyfriend" who almost killed her and boohoo isn't she a victim while her ex sits in jail. And every women's group, news outlet, and gov't agency in the land would heap praise on her "bravery" and nobility. Welcome to the ongoing decline and fall of The West.