The following is the comment by Michael on Dalrock's blog, cited in the sidebar. I'm reposting it here in the event it ever gets deleted.
Michael says: November 25, 2012 at 2:54 am Hello. Is there an introduction board for this website? My name is Michael. I’ve been reading this website for 3 days. I’m shocked to see everything I’ve experiencing written in such a perfectly stated way. Never before have I seen a blog/media outlet so perfectly written. The writer is surely a genius. I’m amazed and relived to see so many responses. It means I’m not alone.
I’m 32 years old and have never been married. Unfortunately (or fortunately I’m not sure which anymore at this point) I have no kids. I am single and alone and not dating anyone. I live in Los Angeles. My income was $120,000.00 (net earnings after creative deductions and business taxes) in 2011. Income is projected to be $170,000.00 (net earnings after business taxes) in 2012. I’m exactly the kinds of “independent man” women claim they want. I drive a luxury car with an amazing apartment in Los Angeles directly on the beach. It’s quite a panty moistener and costs me $6,000.00 per month. I work from home because an office would cost at least another $2,000.00 month. I keep in great shape. Gym 3-4 a week + running + organic diet (I spend $700-$900.00 a month on organic foods and supplements) I was raised in a Christian “7th Heaven” (old TV show) type household. We always went to church. Strong hard working father figure was always present for me and my siblings. I went to private school, university, law school, and then started my own practice at 28 years old.
My parents met and married in college. They have been married for 39 years. And it hurts me to the core to be 32 and unmarried. Alone. Without a loving wife. I feel pain from it every single day. It’s like a sharp invisible dagger constantly stabbing at me. But perhaps I’m part of the problem listed in the graphs above. Let me explain why:
I went to the same college my parents met and married at. I was hoping to meet marry and settle down. Instead I was met with hundreds young college aged women who were NOT interested in marriage. They were interested in: 1) Partying 2) Having sex. College was 24/7 fuck fest. At first I was able to begrudgingly “socialize” in this element. What do I mean by “this element” within this context? College: Extreme social promiscuity, cheating, drama, drugs, and parties. I was an observer but NEVER a direct participant because my heart would not let me. This eventually caused me to stick out as a third wheel observer on campus. Someone who was always “not mixing” or “participating”. As a result I never enjoyed the benefits. I rarely dated. Instead I was sneered at. Cute girls flicked their fingers at me. I was used by women as a person to tell their problems to. I was passed over. I was seen as “weak “lame” and “boring”. I was ignored in the hallways, library, classes, by these women. And it didn’t help I was cash strapped broke working a minimum wage job and eating Raman noodles..
The vast majority of these young hot girls vigorously pursued college life sex like you would not believe. They had sex with a large variety of guys. What I personally call “lily padding”. These girls did anything and anyone in the name of “fun” (fun=parties, fun= sex with new people, fun= drugs, fun= raves, fun = frat party etc.
It hurt me to watch these girls go out of their way to pursue and spread their legs for complete losers. COMPLETE LOSERS. I’m talking: Hi I work in a carnival part time, I’m covered in tattoos, I have no job, I failed my minimum wage drug test and I’m in a band. These guys were losers. Some did not even go to the college! They would hop a bus stay with friends and get laid THAT NIGHT.
Many nights I could not sleep because of the girls getting fucked hard… 1,2,3,4 dorms down. The dorms were old military barracks from the 1940’s with vents through the ceilings. It was very loud. All the time. I remember how much it hurt to be rejected by one girl in particular I had my open hopeless romantic heart set on… We had allot in common. I pursued her like a complete gentlemen – and was eventually turned down. That same weekend after getting turned down I got to hear her getting fucked hard and loud in the room next door. The guy who lived there was a super scraggly unattractive heavy drug user covered in tattoos majoring in “music studies”. This girl was young hot thin beautiful in her physical prime. I never said anything. But I felt so hurt she turned me down for casual sex with a guy like that. This guy was very open about his exploits with her and told me not to worry because practically every guy he knew fucked her. As the years passed the same thing happened again and again, and again and again, in various ways with all kinds of unrelated girls. What I mean is: I was looking for a LTR leading to marriage. I would meet trade numbers talk and “feel” a girl was a good person. Then she would do other guys. Or I would find out things like this. When this kind of thing happens to me over and over all through my life….it hurts me and makes me doubt senses. What is wrong with me that my heart is telling me she is a good person when she is clearly not?
As time went on I was labeled “husband material” by the girls on my campus. This phrase continued to plague me into my late 20′s. This label resulted in ZERO DATES all through college. I wasn’t “down with it”. I wasn’t “participating” etc (sex, drugs, parties, etc.) My heart wasn’t into it. So I wasn’t entitled to any of the benefits (having sex with young attractive girls in their prime etc.). However party guys, flash in a pan athletes, loser guys in bands, wanna be DJ’s and self-professed “club promoters” – were ALWAYS getting these girls at their youngest hottest physical prime. Basically the more of a loser the guy was… the more these women would have sex with them. Hot sorority girls flocked to Football players like a butterfly’s on a beast. It didn’t even matter if the guy was black. College athletes did not even TRY to get laid.
One night I had enough. I confronted a room of 8-10 gorgeous white girls. These girls were 18-24 years old. I asked them if they planned to get married. All seemed to say more or less – YES. I asked what their future husband would think about their behavior. I was immediately met with hostility. I was told the future husband would “never know” and “it’s none of his business”. The girls said they knew exactly what they were doing and were planning to “have their fun” (fun= partying, fun=sex, fun=going on spring break etc.) and would “settle down later”. I asked: when are you planning to settle down? They said: “It depends” and “probably around 27, 28” or “maybe sooner it depends”. I really put the girls on the spot. During our exchange they saw I was upset. They told me I should be happy because “nice guys finish first in the end”. I told them you cannot have your cake and eat it to. Then I was told by Kaylene (a young thin super sexy blonde with curves in all the right places (who BTW refused to date me even though we were friends and according to her roommate had sex with almost 30 guys in one semester ) she told me “Michael let me tell you something: not only am I going to have my cake eat it and eat it too. I’m going to have it with ice cream and sprinkles”. All of the girls laughed and smiled in agreement.
I thought things would change after college. They didn’t.
Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. In my mind these are the same women who rejected me. I’m not interested. The Bible says something to the effect of “don’t forsake the wife of your youth” or something like “remember your young wife”? Something like that. How am I supposed to remember something I never had? I have no history with these women. Ticking ovaries are scandalous. They will lie and say anything to get what they want. Which is: BABIES AND A LOVING HUSBAND TO PAY THEIR BILLS. Yet these women did not even give a few good years of their youth!
As a man I am very visual. God made me this way. I cannot help finding a physically beautiful woman attractive. Why did these women not at least give me a few years of their youth so I would have time to fall in love with them and permanently burn their image in my mind’s eye? I need something to remember when we are 50 and married. Yet she spent her 20’s parceling herself out to guys who gave her nothing and offers nothing to the guy who gives her everything. I’m expected to commit hard earned resources to raising children with what is ultimately a suspect woman whose history I know nothing about. A 30+ unmarried women has very high chance of having a questionable past and baggage. I believe the more men a woman has been with the less likely she is to be emotionally committed each subsequent one. When you have handed out little pieces of your heart over years to dozens of different men what is left for the husband you proclaim to truly love? What value do the words “I love you” mean when she has stared into the eyes of 10-100+ different men and said the same thing?
At 30+ women’s physical appearance has nowhere to go but DOWN. Is this what women mean by “saving the best for last”? Marrying at 30+? How can women spend trillions of dollars a year on beauty products yet at the same time claim a women’s age “shouldn’t be important” to a man? And what about children? Did they ever think their husbands might want to have children? What’s more likely to naturally produce a quicker pregnancy and healthy offspring? A fertile 24 year old in her physical prime… or a 35 year old aging womb? What if I want multiple children? At 30+ a women can easily before infertile after her first pregnancy. As a result of everything I’ve seen and experienced in my life I would like to make an announcement to all the desperate 30+ year old women out there: I would rather suffocate and die then spend my hard earned income, love, trust, and substance on you. Your entitled, ageing, feminist, jaded, baggage laden and brainwashed. And if I cannot marry a women in her 20’s I REFUSE TO EVER GET MARRIED. Given my high income this should not be a problem. However I’m concerned at some point I will have to start looking overseas (Ukraine, Russia, Eastern Europe etc.). I’m not going to marry one of these 30+ ageing entitled females who clearly have an agenda of their own. I intend to get married once. Marriage is meant to be forever. I will not be a starter husband for one of these used up women. I can’t tell you the number of men I’ve known who married late and were rewarded by losing everything they spent their lives building…
The way I see it I’ve been given the following choices:
1) Marry a 30+ women.
2) Marry a women in her twenties
3) Be single and enjoy my money.

throw8way0 11y ago
bsutansalt, this is throw8way0. Enjoy the orangered. It makes a nice change to the red.
hranon 12y ago
I think Michael should have been meeting girls who shared his values by volunteering for a charity, going on religious retreats, and striking up conversations with quiet, studious girls. I suspect that like many college men including myself at that age, he gravitated towards lively charismatic girls who were out of his league while overlooking wife-material types.
He should own this instead of falling back on ego-sparing "nice guy" talk and complaints about dorm culture.
Aerobus 12y ago
Agreed but some conservative christian girls (e.g. catholics) are some of the biggest sluts.
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Silverbacked 12y ago
ITT: People who have not only never read the sidebar, but also didn't read the post properly because they think OP is "Michael"
benjalss 12y ago
Funny thing is, well not "Haha" funny, but funny-- these women are going to get your money whether it be by marriage vows or the government redistributing it to them.
Yes I am getting more Conservative in my old age.
30303030303030 12y ago
better later than not at all
omega_fat 12y ago
If you're a Conservative in young age maybe you have no heart, but if you're not a Conservative when older you have no brain.
watersign 12y ago
If you're a liberal when you're older you have no brain
jimbo7771 12y ago
No point in buying a 30 year treasury bond when you're 90 years old.
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I have a couple of issues with this, although for the most part he makes good points.
I think his expectation that he could find someone and get married at college was a bit off, especially since he states how much disdain he had for essentially everyone else there. High expectations coupled with young adults is never going to pan out well.
And this:
is just despicable racism that makes me think the reason this guy never had any luck with girls is that he's just a straight up prick.
Sturmgeist781 12y ago
Not a racist comment. It's an observation.
White women know how they will be perceived my other white women and white man if they fuck around with black guys. To most people it lowers their SMV.
Don't get it twisted.
nicethingyoucanthave 12y ago
I was getting the same read on it. He's mad that women aren't the way he wants them to be.
The red pill lets you see the world the way it really is. Yet so many times, the reaction to seeing the truth is pining for the fantasy. Reality check: you were never going to have the fantasy whether you took the red pill or not. Read that sentence again, Michael. This is the real world. Your fantasy woman never existed. All that you're doing by being angry about it is wasting even more of your life.
You should have been fucking those girls in college. And now that you're 30 and successful, you should be lining them up even more regularly.
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__ROOSTER__ 12y ago
Red pill men should be able to make comments about race without someone calling them a racist, which only shits down discussion.
What is you're definition of a racist anyway?
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He wasn't being racist. A lot of people view Black men negatively. He was pointing out that in spite of that being an athlete still got the black guys many women with ease.....I hate people when people just jump to "that's Raciss!".
kulrajiskulraj 12y ago
Exactly. Red pill theory is all about exposing the truths in our fucked up world and how to make do with them. And race has a lot to do with a lot of things. Call me racist but your race can determine many "defaults" for you. I say default because we can always improve ourselves and should aim to do so.
morphite65 12y ago
Maybe he wasn't racist, but a lot of people are- that could be what he meant.
deptii 12y ago
That's what I took from it. White girls are pretty racist around my parts, and most would never date a black guy.
Psychemistry 12y ago
Indeed, race matters, to an extent. I go to Duke, which is located in the South. Multiple girls, hot or not, have said straight to my face that they "would never date a black guy", and even "Black guys are at the top of my 'NO' List".
ishkabibs 12y ago
Just because they wont date a black guy doesn't mean they wont fuck one. I used to go to a predominantly white upper middle class catholic high school and none of the girls would be caught dead with any of the black guys on their arm, but that didn't stop them from fucking them in cars, corridors and classrooms. Daddy's little girl needs to rebel somehow.
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ishkabibs 12y ago
hranon (comment below) makes a good point about expectations. Why is this guy looking for sorority type girls when clearly they couldn't be further away from his type. Why not go after the studious (perhaps lesser attractive) modest girls?
If you ask me, this guy is the homely dweeb in high school that got passed over by all the cheerleaders. Instead of getting a girl in his own league he's fixated on proving he "can have his cake and eat it" too. Get a hot trophy wife that is funny smart and pious all while worshiping the ground he walks on and loving him unconditionally.
Wake up bruh, this woman does not exist. And if she does, she wouldn't be with an insecure beta like yourself.
whatsazipper 12y ago
Indeed. It's a story about unrealistic expectations.
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I met my SO in HS. she came from a poorer family than mine. i knew going into this relationship no matter how long it lasted whether 2 weeks or 20 years that i would have to pay for everything. and after 8 years i am. and its ok bc she kisses me, tells me how thankful she is, then does something nice for me like make me a meal or even just watch me kill some 12 year old on COD. its all about being appreciated. and she shows how much she appreciates me. no one man or woman is entitled to anything. Men work for many reasons but in the end we just want all the hard work to be appreciated but sadly so many women think they are entitled to so much more for doing so much less.
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mechakingghidorah 12y ago
I think he's reposting from somewhere else, but I agree with Michael.
I've made my peace with dying alone.
JP_Whoregan 12y ago
As have I. My parents often joke about "when are you gonna find a 'nice girl' to 'settle down' with." I reply that I disagree with her premise, and therefore can't answer the question.
No_disintegrations 12y ago
My stock response to my parents is "when women get their act together." Then they both kinda nod and change the subject.
Ghadis 12y ago
I don't think I'll ever make my peace with it but I do know I'm never, EVER going to get married barring massive political changes.
JP_Whoregan 12y ago
Political changes and ensuing legal changes will not happen in our lifetimes. Just a few of the things that need to happen are:
There are others, but again, none of this will happen in or uber-feminized society.
KyfhoMyoba 12y ago
I would go so far as to say no child support unless father and mother are/were married OR have a contract specifying child support duties. This will cut wa-a-a-ay down on the bastard problem.
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Throw in a deadbeat mom law or two and I'm sold.
SmokeU 12y ago
I have to say. It's kind of your fault for not getting the time of day from these girls. When you say these other guys who had interesting pursuits were getting laid and were "losers" you were eating top ramen living in a dorm. IMHO a loser. You have a great job now, a cool house, and you live in the top spots for hot ass (I'm in the same boat in Newport) so honestly if you can't find a 24 year old who is hot as fuck, from a good family, exciting, and willing to get married that's your own fault. Quit thumping the bible with ideals and GO OUT AND MEET PEOPLE. Just because you are all high and mighty on your great guy shit doesn't mean it's anyone's fault for you not being able to find a good girl.
Let me give you some advice.
1 you work at home: big loss of an office environment. This limits your exposure to post grad ass. But hey I work from home too and I don't have any problems meeting women.
2 quit thumping the bible. Being a Christian and quoting a horribly translated book doesn't make you better than anyone else. And honestly some of the shittiest people in existence use that book for power grabbing and self justification.
3 you sound like a dickhead to hang out with so I would work on changing that.
4 I can help you meet some women in the area if you want. This goes out to all the other TRP readers.
Clarification. I'm not trying to rag on him. I agree with what he is saying about most women. Part of the issue he has is the girls who live in L.A. Who are all pretty fucked in the head. However I know there are unicorns out there. I know the waters, am alpha as fuck, and just think he is relying on his "husband material" qualities too much. Give girls the tingles, it's easier to make a girl who wants to fuck you become a girlfriend.
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Thats what I was thinking the whole read. "Whats wrong with these girls" everybody else is a loser why can't I get what I want? Then his best idea is to go shopping for girls in third world countries. What does this guy bring to the table? No fun, no drinking/drugs, not good war stories, nothing. This guy needs to stop being a pussy and live. All reading his story did was piss me off.
Newport Fuck YA!
SmokeU 12y ago
Newps bro
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Started here in 2005 at the Coronado lol
SmokeU 12y ago
I'm on Newport island now. Coronado didn't do it for my image.
SmokeU 12y ago
Do you live on the peninsula?
[deleted] 12y ago
No I bought a condo off of Eastbluff above the back bay. But I only mentioned the Coronado because so much pussy is being flung around at that place and it reminded me about the dudes story about living in a college dorm.
SmokeU 12y ago
This entire city is crawling with it. It's like when girls come here they are wet looking for a ONS every time.
ishkabibs 12y ago
I'm so glad you brought this up. This guy has never learned how to "get a girl". He is missing the primal guttural instinct that makes a man a hunter. He didn't have it in college and even with all his age maturity and success he is doesn't have it now.
edit: grammar
omega_fat 12y ago
First thing I noticed was how fucking boring and up his own arse the guy was. Everyone studying less than law according to him is a loser. Didn't mention any hobbies, probably because he didn't have any (well maybe apart from Bible bashing). I can totally understand him having no success with the ladies, or having any friends at all.
DrDalenQuaice 12y ago
Hey this guy is just a loser on his own. If he wanted it there' s plenty of pussy at church too.
theycallme1 12y ago
I noticed he started his own practice, yet has horrendous grammar? Now I'm looking down upon him.
JP_Whoregan 12y ago
What fucks things up in our 30's, as the "single me" is starting to find out, is that a woman in her late 20's to early 30's who has started her little "career", can be even more entitled than they were when they were younger, because they feel that now they're 'more advanced' with a little bit of money in the bank, and that they miraculously managed to escape their 20's without popping out a bastard child, that they're some sort of "higher value catch".
They labor under the delusion that I should put up with their sassy attitudes and under-handed shit-tests because they're "accomplished", and their feminism-fueled solipsism has convinced them that I will see value in her "career". Just sitting there at a bar, sipping a Russian Standard on the rocks, listening to some 30 year old yammer on and on about her job as a paralegal, about how bitchy her coworkers are, how important she is in her office, blah blah blah. This is about the time I excuse myself, and tell her I'm late for an appointment with a surgeon to have my ears sewn shut.
jakethesnake76 12y ago
Nice line B/ro i think i'll use that sometime thanx..
JP_Whoregan 12y ago
I can't take credit, it's property of the late, great, George Carlin.
jakethesnake76 12y ago
Oh yeah i forgot that ,he was such a perceptive genius wasn't he?
redpillschool Admin 12y ago
Indeed, I have continued to keep my dating pool between 18-20. Frankly, I find that American women's attitudes suffer irreversibly when they reach 21 and learn that their pussy can get free drinks at a bar. Then they're lost until 35.
JP_Whoregan 12y ago
Yeah, my little anecdote above happened at a bar this past weekend. I only talked to her because I had her pegged at 26 or 27, she appeared young for her age. She's going on and on about her job, I manage to squeeze a word in edgewise, and I mention that I'm an independent 1099, how I enjoy making my own work schedule, etc, to wit she pops off, "oh, so you make a habit out of being late for things?" (total hamster). I reply, "yeah, usually a half hour to 45 minutes late, but if I like you enough to take you out, I might pare it down to 15 minutes if traffic's light on the interstate." (The fucking gall on this woman, we're not even talking 10 minutes, and out comes a shit test.) I was literally saved by the bell when my friend called not long after that, asking me to come over to watch the UFC fight. I promptly excused myself.
I can't stand it when other men just can't shut up about themselves, but it's a quality I vehemently despise in a woman. It easily knocks them down 2 or 3 points on the 10 scale in my book.
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through_a_ways 12y ago
I've noticed this too. I'm not even in my mid 20s, but the girls I knew in high school used to be much sweeter at 17 than they are now.
bsutansalt 12y ago
My experience confirms this for the most part. Exceptions exist, but I chose to play the odds. I've said it before I'll never date older women seriously again if my gf and I split, opting for under 22. In average they're less baggage, have better attitudes, and are simply hotter.
edit: I accidentally a word
redpillschool Admin 12y ago
Less baggage is right. Interestingly, BPers love to harp on how we only go for young, impressionable, vulnerable women so we can take advantage of them. Truth is, I just don't like how bitchy and entitled they get as they age. It's not that I can't lock down a 30 year old, it's just... who would when you can have an 18 year old who still has a positive attitude and is willing to learn?
Plus- 18 is adult. If women can't fend for themselves at 18, then how can we take feminism seriously?
(trick question)
kearvelli 12y ago
Speakin the truth.
wiseclockcounter 12y ago
I can see why "older" men would want to pursue younger women, but I do think there is a certain bitterness present in a lot of the guys that take that route. I suppose fair is fair if girls are gaming the system enough on their own, but I've sensed a weird possessiveness in these 30+ men. They are bitter that girls have played them for the past decade, and as such, they are painfully aware of the pressures/opportunities their young catch will face. So they try to hold onto them by being controlling, extra providing, using their lifestyle afforded of an advanced career to convince them that a relationship with them is better than with some other dude.
Now I'm not saying this is a direct product of RP thinking, but it certainly seems to branch from the truth of the basic premise. I'm sure some others here can attest to it, no?
JP_Whoregan 12y ago
There's nothing "bitter" about pursuing one's best options, and I'm sorry, a worn out, post-wall 34 year old woman with a fertility gas tank nearing the "Empty" light coming on is far from a successful man's best option.
Today's women think their SMV is perpetual, RP men recognize that it is not, and we attempt to capitalize on that knowledge, by snagging a younger woman before she punches her ticket on the Cocksville Express to Spinsterville. Now, if she chooses to punch her ticket anyways after I'm seeing her, then she gets nexted. And if I find out she's already got a first class seat on the Cocksville Express, I'll ride along with her for a while, but I'm eventually getting off the train in a few stops and waiting for the next one.
wiseclockcounter 12y ago
perhaps I wasn't framing my comment properly. It seems there are men who date younger to get better quality women and then there are men who date younger because they feel cheated out of an experience. "I was trying to get with these girls all throughout my 20's and all of them chose to fuck losers instead of being in a rewarding relationship with me." So when and if they DO manage to date one of the young women, they realize that the girl's loyalty is a very fickle thing and act in all sorts of desperate ways to keep them in the relationship (by showering them with affection or gifts/ expensive vacations etc. Stuff that puts them above the competition.)
So what I'm saying is that it appears the blue pillers are actually criticizing themselves. A redpill guy would not be crazy and possessive, and he's certainly not wrong for dating younger women.
JP_Whoregan 12y ago
I think I'm getting what you're saying.
See, the problem 30-something and older women have with TRP is that they are in fact the ones who are jealous this little dynamic doesn't work in reverse (for the most part). There are throngs of younger women eager to date older men, but there are not throngs of ANY men younger than 40 or 50 who are eager to date 30-something women. Sure, they may find a desperate BP cougar-fucker here and there, but it's table scraps. And these women are not used to fending for table scraps, they're used to the pick of the cock buffet they got in their 20's. And every new man that learns RP truth just means one more reformed beta off the dating market that they won't be able to con into a life of supplication, cuckoldry, and servitude.
vengefully_yours 12y ago
I hear ya, the number of physically attractive women I have dropped almost instantly after talking for a short time surprised me. Everything from boring as fuck to 'recovering' junkies and all of them feel entitled to everyone putting up with her shit.
Post wall its worse, they think they should have everything handed to them and get indignant when they see me with someone younger and hotter than they are. I keep hearing that I shouldn't be fucking a 22 yo, and I should go to women closer to 40 and stay in my 'age group.' There is a reason I'm fucking a chick half my age, because I can and she is interesting, intelligent, and fun to be around. The older they get, the worse they are to be around.
JP_Whoregan 12y ago
And when you find out they're a "proud single mom", Holy Christ Weeping on the Cross, hold on, you're in for the oral yammering of your life. "My son this, my daughter that, their father is such an asshole, I don't need a man, I want a man, my kids, my kids, my kids, yadda yadda yadda."
Which is why I now have a strict "no single mothers" policy, save maybe being a back-burner plate. This was half the reason I deleted my FB account...at 32, most of my acquaintances are foolishly married and popping out fuck trophies at a rate of 1 per year. And their "status updates" revolved around nothing but their freaking kids. Nauseating.
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Nothing wrong with having a family if you're happy with that. No need to get hung up on other people's lives, bud. As you know, not worth your time or your energy.
vengefully_yours 12y ago
I found the same thing with the vast majority of women with kids. My kid this, that and all that other shit. They have almost entirely tried to trap me with that shit. Then I met the one I'm seeing now, she has a kid and issues like most women her age, but its not a constant barrage of her crotch fruit. Its different, but there is still the entire kid thing going on. There is none of that I don't need a man and all that shit, she's down to earth about it.
She isn't what sold me on giving her more than a pump and dump though, it was her son. I'm a huge car nut, I do restorations and build drag cars. This kid has cars on the brain like I do, he loves the videos I have of my rides, and he pages through all my pics of my rebuilds. He is three and already has the car bug bad. That kind of passion should be nurtured, and with the right guidance he could be a hell of a builder. This is the only kid I have met in twenty years that I like, including my own kids.
Other than this one and her gear head kid, there's no fucking way I want anything to do with single moms. This one got lucky, and her kids passion about cars won her a chance at something better.
Its also a good test of my game and alpha mentality.
HeadingRed 12y ago
Also what a women says\acts impacts her attractiveness. I have meet a few great looking women who stopped being so once I talked to them. Meet a couple of average women who got a lot cuter after a bit.
Few women seem to understand how much their actions impact their attractiveness
vengefully_yours 12y ago
Damn right, attitude can make or break a woman's attractiveness. Hell I was with a homely one for nearly ten years because she was incredibly interesting, loved to fuck, and had a thin body. Her attitude and outlook was refreshing, until she decided to hop on the carousel.
HeadingRed 12y ago
Just explained this to my current SO who is working downtown with a boatload of younger women in good shape looking for a good time. It's nuts how often I have heard "men don't like women for who they are" then when I try to explain this one I get the deer-in-the-headlights stare.
vengefully_yours 12y ago
It depends on whom they are, I've turned down quite a few, because despite being physically attractive they were simply too fucked up to risk sticking my dick in them.
bsutansalt 12y ago
The older I get the more power I realize I hold. I wish more guys understood this.
vengefully_yours 12y ago
That has become readily apparent to me with my new one. Even after some of the shit I did to find her limits, she is still totally into me and is very concerned I will shut her off. I have five women fighting over my 30lbs overweight short man ass and trying to cause problems with the young one. Ever since about 35 I have had increasing attention from women, and it is getting better in my 40s.
Its fucking surreal how its going now.
1independentmale 12y ago
I'm glad you posted this. I'm 36 and have also noticed the increasing attention. The older I get, the wiser I get, the more money I make, the less fucks I give and the more attention I get. My LTR has been pretty great thus far, but if it doesn't work out, it's nice to know I'll still have the option to pursue women in their twenties when I'm in my forties.
vengefully_yours 12y ago
Sometimes I think I am lucky to have a hot 20 something, then it dawns on me that despite being too fat for my own comfort, there is no shortage of women her age that want my dick. All the way down to 18 yr olds, fucked two of them last year and could have had another, but I had enough plates.
The one I'm with says I can't dye my hair to get rid of the gray, not even my beard. There was thirteen years between my last wife and me, and twenty years between this one and me. Its almost an unfair advantage, but I'm getting what I didn't get in my 20s.
[deleted] 12y ago
Wow. This is the most self congratulatory circle jerk I have ever seen in my time as a redditor. This is why we have such a bad reputation.
vengefully_yours 12y ago
Wow. You really missed the point. The point is we have an advantage if we only use it. The point is that just because you are over 35 or 40 your sex life doesn't end or have to be with ugly wrinkled old bitches.
garlicextract 12y ago
What exactly is he trying to say here? Rest of it was great.
[deleted] 12y ago
What he is saying is everybody but him got laid. And when it was a black dude that stuck his pinup girl that packed an extra sting.
Because he is better and smarter than everybody else at the college. The only thing he doesn't know how to do is function socially because everybody else is to stupid to know how awesome he is.
garlicextract 12y ago
I got that part, I just don't approve of any bigotry, and he's clearly referring to black people like he's categorically smarter or more suitable than they are. They "even" went for the black guys" over him, well maybe they weren't trying to date a racist? Just a thought.
[deleted] 12y ago
Ya im thinking that he applied this type of reasoning to all aspects of dating which is why he never got off the ground. Ever.
He probably says lots of really offensive ridiculous things without even realising he is being awkward, racist, misogynistic.
I'll bet you could adlib this paper to a psychiatrist have them run it through DSM5 and get prescribed an SSRI.
randarrow 12y ago
Yes.
Foulkey 12y ago
Not for nothing, but I know people like Michael and they can't get women because they're fucking weird.
rdaily207 12y ago
Find a devout Christian with big tits.
Neverd0wn 12y ago
This guy spent all college not participating? I wonder what he's been doing then instead of participating then? It's no wonder you're not getting any social interactions is you don't get out there yourself. Don't see how this is sidebar material.
[deleted] 12y ago
It's unfortunate to feel that you need to have a wife in order get fulfillment in life.
__ROOSTER__ 12y ago
The best model for raising successful children is a solid marriage. Solid marriages are totally possible.
If a man can master PUA, finances, etc why can't he master marriage? Lots of men have. Yes 50% end in divorce, yes many of those that don't end in divorce should. That in no way says a man with the right frame picking the right woman can't succeed.
Some of us want a solid mate, want to raise children. Not because society tells is to, but because that's what we want.
I study RP and how to be a better man so I can successfully lead a family, not so I can go alone. I've done enough of that, it's ok, but it's not what I want to look back on from my death bed, and it's not what I want in the moment.
deptii 12y ago
While I agree, it's certainly not hard to understand why, considering his home life, as well as the way society as a whole judges men.
[deleted] 12y ago
Yeah, totally agree with you too. What might be an idea is for him is to figure out why he has those beliefs and/or whether those beliefs are valid and true.
[deleted] 12y ago
its biology nigga.
watersign 12y ago
no one wants to be alone, even the most red pill of us.
[deleted] 12y ago
It's biology that he needs a wife? Citation needed.
[deleted] 12y ago
He must be a troll... evolutionary biology states that men want to spread their seed to as many partners as possible.
Similar to a male alpha lion on the great planes with his cohort of concubines that raise children and fetch meat for him and the cubs. Lucky bastards will never have to worry about female progressivism. Thoughts?
[deleted] 12y ago
kinda trolling...but though not a necessity, a wife is needed to have a family which creates the stability necessary for proper raising of one's offspring ...hency why i assume we are wired over the years to seek fulfilment through this type of stability and its not that easy to undo this urge for family stability. (not saying its not possible.....)
whatsazipper 12y ago
I think this one is culturally enforced. When culture and the law don't act in tandem to promote family formation and stability, it seems to quickly fall apart and return to a much more basic level of association.
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[deleted] 12y ago
Someone give this man a nobel prize in biology.
Confluenced 12y ago
Procreation is the ultimate win. Passing along your genetics, etc. If you don't have kids, well there goes your lineage.
I feel where he is coming from.
[deleted] 12y ago
You can procreate without a wife. I don't think anyone would argue against procreation being a biological need, but a wife is a different matter.
Confluenced 12y ago
Having a family dynamic for raising children is important, at least that's how I see it. Not sure how that would work without having a woman within the same household. Even if you didn't marry, pretty sure common law would still apply.
shadymilkman_ 12y ago
Tired of this argument because its bullshit and never best for the kids
[deleted] 12y ago
If it's best for the kids or not is irrelevant. We are talking about whether it's biologically ingrained or not.
beginner_ 12y ago
Michael is whining about "losers" getting laid when in fact he was the "loser". There is nothing wrong with being more conservative and concentrating on courses than on socializing and partying but then don't blame the whole world for missing out. It was your choice, take responsibility for it.
Also his constant religious references are annoying. Drugs (alcohol and illegal stuff) aren't all bad if you know what you are doing. They can in fact be eye opening. a literal red pill.
Also with 32 you can easily find a below 30 woman that doesn't yet hear her clock ticking and no there is no reason to marry her. Best make that clear early that marrying isn't an option for you with current state of the legal system.
[deleted] 12y ago
Who was the loser after he cried himself to sleep hearing his crush getting gorilla fucked by the loser next door?
[deleted] 12y ago
Always a great read.
thecajunone 12y ago
Kind of sad too. Dude just wanted to be loved.
DrDalenQuaice 12y ago
It plays like the intro monologue in "Hitch"
Tastecard 12y ago
I have to say that while I respect you for writing this, I just don't understand the point.
You were a nice guy and the wild girls that you were after felt you were not for them because they were not looking for commitment. As you grew older, your currency increased and now they are looking to settle, you are seeking younger girls that are less wild. Ultimately, the ones that were also there when you were younger but you were keen on the wilder promiscuous ones to settle down with you.
What are we trying to say here? It sounds like bitter revenge or am I not getting the point here? Please tell me, as I appreciate this post is integral to TRP.
EDIT: Grammar
deptii 12y ago
See my reply to ThumpNuts below.
brons104 12y ago
Damn that's deep and it hit's hard because I had very similar experiences in college. I had a decent amount of money in the bank after serving in Afghanistan, but I didn't flaunt it or waste it. I didn't go to the frat parties and get wasted every weekend. I kept my grades up and used my limited income to live well, but not extravagantly. All the women I got close to were all riding the carousel pretty hard, but never gave me a second chance once they realized I wasn't about to spend money on them like the drug ridden, alcoholic frat boys were willing to.
Now I'm married to a wonderful woman who wasn't a complete skank during college, has a great work ethic, and supports all of my dreams and aspirations. I've got a great career, a home, and two awesome dogs; literally the American dream. All of the other women I used to be close to in college are either in careers that they don't like or with guys who they complain about constantly on Facebook. I hope Michael keeps his standards up and doesn't settle.
FemtoG 12y ago
I like how he botched the best quote in the entire thing. Any girl that is 8+ will definitely have her cake and eat it too with sprinkles and ice cream in this society
libglip 12y ago
They think that until they hit The Wall, which is when they find out the cake no longer is interested in them.
No, he didn't botch the quote.
[deleted] 12y ago
You are both correct
Graizur 12y ago
Imagine an animal that didn't know how to procreate.
costaman 12y ago
As a college man, I really enjoyed the part where you asked the hamsters what their life goals were. That is the type of TRP field use I needed to read
watersign 12y ago
"I'm majoring in Psychology/Social work..I want to be a teacher or a social worker" ...said every hot girl at <<insert state school here>>
Confluenced 12y ago
For a man in your position, you could find young women overseas that would kill to be your partner. I have a coworker who is almost exactly like you, although he grew up an atheist from severely broken family.
He saw what you did when he went to UCSB (isla vista is like the biggest fuck fest in the USA) and now all those used up girls are now noticing him. Do yourself a favor and travel to the countries you mentioned. He went to Lebanon and ended up marrying this ridiculously hot 24 year old.
They have been married for 3 years, 2nd kid on the way, and he is very happy. She cooks, cleans, is nurturing and respects the life he has given her.
kinkydiver 12y ago
My experience with women from poorer countries (Asia, Latin America) are mostly negative. Not surprisingly, my girlfriends with that backgroud cared exclusively about things, and concepts, like a stable life, greencard, etc. I don't blame them one bit.
But I see them as incompatible now. They had low empathy (due to rough childhood is my guess), no love to give, and their commitment was conditional. One left me for richer grounds when she noticed I wasn't advancing in my career (I still made 6 figures). Oh they did cook and clean and wanted kids.. but they didn't want me.
I hope it stays that way, but I wouldn't trust it. What happens when she gets her local citizenship?
chtrchtr_pussyeater 12y ago
Yup, the occasional escort is a lot cheaper than a wife and you'll get laid more often..
dominotw 12y ago
Yep. Just search Quora and reddit for hundreds of stories where the bride left once she got her citizenship.
[deleted] 12y ago
Like the standard left my job moved across the USA and got dumped week 1 story.
Confluenced 12y ago
Yeah you guys both make good points.
What should he do though? It obvious that he does not want to engage with the american female and I can't blame him.
[deleted] 12y ago
He needs to fuck some escorts and porn stars. Get what the other guys were having when you were in college. I don't think this guy knows how to date. So get some sex in and then rethink your ideas about relationships. Don't fuck cheap hookers either. Chances are you might run through some sorority girls from your old uni.
RobbenQC 12y ago
Hypergamy isn't restricted to American females, it's universal. The fantasy this man had in his mind doesn't exist any more; and it only exited in the past because women had no choice but to restrain their hypergamy or go without provision. He should relax and enjoy his money.
kinkydiver 12y ago
I've been reading TRP for a few months and this is what I've condensed out:
.. just relaying what has been said. Personally, I do believe there are many nice women out there who want a meaningful partnership. Guess I'm a unicorner in TRP terms :)
whatsazipper 12y ago
There are no unicorns.
Confluenced 12y ago
Yeah, I see relationships that are working but it's always the same case. One mans SMV is higher than the girls. If not, doomed to fail.
Since his SMV is much higher now then when he was overlooked in college, he should have his pick of good women.
Scymnus 12y ago
Unicorns are mythical creatures and do not exist. If you're still looking for "the one" you will suffer from oneitis and you will most likely be screwed. This is pretty core in TRP.
Aerobus 12y ago
I think that's why he said personal unicorn. Unicorns can't exist, but I'm sure you can get something close. You'll compromise on the parts that aren't as important to you to get the qualities that are more important to you.
dominotw 12y ago
Its hard to a) find someone who doesn't think relationships are about exploiting each other and b) get out of that mindset ourselves.
Unfortunately this whole sub is dedicated to that idea of 'relationship is about exploiting the other person' (will she suck my dick every-night, will he marry me and treat me like a princesses) , there can never be 'love' if either party holds that view and relationship is ultimately doomed.
I view this school of thought as western individualism taken to its (unfortunate) ultimate conclusion.
JohnPeel 12y ago
I will say however that we're faced with two choices 1) try to change our environment 2) adapt ourselves to the current environment.
This boils down to an ideological argument between idealism and realism. We are attacked by our detractors because they claim that we are causing the problem when really we're just reacting to the situation around us. They want to blame somebody because they can't accept the system they invested in is a failure.
Indeed, that is the whole point of the analogy from "The Matrix" that the sub derives its name from.
[deleted] 12y ago
Exploitation is very different from trading value for value. Why are you calling it exploitation? If a woman has a fine ass, and a man has fat wallet, why is exploiting who if they trade these two values. He gets the ass, she gets the wallet? All relationships fundamentally are built on trading value for value, are they not?
Unconditional love makes no sense, traditional love is pretty much a fairytale.
I do not think there is anything wrong with the understanding that love is about providing each other with value. If one party stops providing value why would you stick around? If you can higher value somewhere else why would you not change partners?
I dunno, maybe I'm too cynical and logical about it.
1independentmale 12y ago
It doesn't exist and I can prove it:
Would you still love your wife if she whored around, stole your money and treated you like shit? What if she drowned your kids? Killed your dog? Destroyed your prized possessions?
Imagine the worst thing another person could do to you and ask yourself, would you still love that person? If not, then you don't love her unconditionally, nor should you.
[deleted] 12y ago
You are right, and even more fundamentally. It is impossible to have unconditional love for one person. Because then the condition for the love is that you are that one person. It's a oxymoron really.
Practical unconditional love would mean that you love anyone and everyone equally, because there is no standards or measurements for your love. Of course this renders it worthless.
I can't get unconditional love to make sense on any level.
Ayn Rand talks about it eloquently in her speeches and writings, but don't remember exactly what she said.
[deleted] 12y ago
It's time to travel, try Asia
ThumpNuts 12y ago
...
Am I completely misunderstanding TRP?
To me, this Michael is a fucking chump and didn't really learn his lesson. Why is he begrudging these women for "having fun?" He has this insane expectation that "good girls" should be nuns until they find a nice Beta Boy to put them on a pedestal and then marry them. Pssshhh! He should have been out there having fun too! He fucked up.
He could have had his cake and ate it too.
Anyway, now this idiot is going to cry about having to find and marry a girl in her 20s? Poor rich boy.
I was 30 when I met my wife, a 22-year old "good girl." She's a petite redhead cutie with big tits. Before that, I fucked every chick I could get my hands on. I've had my cake... still am... and it's hard for me to feel sorry for this guy. He should be lamenting how HE fucked up, not these cheap women.
This guy went from worshiping women who didn't deserve it, to hating them for wanting him now that he is "successful." Am I missing something here?
hermit087 12y ago
This guy was lower SMV in his youth than you were, thats really what it comes down to.
deptii 12y ago
Not every guy enjoys one night stands, and it sounds like he fits that category, nothing wrong with that. He's taken The Red Pill, but it's stuck in his throat. He's bitter, and angry, and I don't blame him at all. A lot of men are in the same position. They want love and marriage and instead are just finding a sea of sluts. They're not trying to find a virgin nun or whatnot, but is it too much ask for a woman to have had less than 5 partners? Apparently it is.
He's hating them now because they wasted their younger, more beautiful, and more fertile years getting all the dick they could handle, and now they want their "beta bux" when their looks start to fade and their baby maker clock is ringing.
ThumpNuts 12y ago
Thanks. Truly. That was a good explanation of what I think was going on.
I just couldn't relate.
Here's what I see of his problem as you have clarified:
His definition of whore could be bullshit. Yes, it is too much to ask to find a girl with less than 5 sex partners in her life by the time she is mature enough to settle down - about 24-years old. No, it's not too much to ask to find a girl who hasn't whored herself around before they've turned 25. The number of sex partners does not really make her a whore. What constitutes sex? Blow jobs, hand jobs, anal...? It's really about her self-worth and how desirable she has been.
The fact that he's judging every girl he sees is bullshit. It's one thing to go in with a set of "preferences," it's quite another to list every trait and attribute as "good" or "bad." It should be more about what he likes more and what he dislikes. Good example: I like girls who are deep and into discussing philosophy and politics. Bad example: Girls who aren't into philosophy and politics are vapid and stupid -- they are beneath me.
KyfhoMyoba 12y ago
Someplace on this sub you can find a study that shows that the number of sexual partners a woman has before marriage correlates very well with likely hood of divorce within 10 years. IIRC, zero (the husband was the first), the probability of divorce=20%, 1 partner = 47%. Probability of divorce rises a couple of points w/ each partner, accelerating at around 8-10, and by the time you get to 16 partners, 80% chance of divorce w/i 10 yrs.
Also, (I've seen it bandied about in the manosphere but have not been able to find a formal study on this, if anyone knows of one, please post.) as a woman's partner count increases, her ability to bond with her mate/LTR AND HER CHILDREN drops dramatically by N=5. Given that the average in the US/UK is now around N=9, I can't really blame him for wanting a virgin bride.
Remember that if she's had a half dozen cocks, it's an almost certainty that at least one of them was an alpha cock. Please read the post entitled "Alpha Widows" on therationalmale.com This does not bode well for her future husband if he is in the over 80% non-alpha male population.
KyfhoMyoba 12y ago
Note the huge jump in probability of divorce by going from 0 to 1. The more cocks she's had, the less any one of them is likely to make a lasting impression on her. Unless it was attached to an alpha. Maybe.
ThumpNuts 12y ago
I get the correlation, I just don't see the causation. I have too much life experience. I've seen plenty of divorces between high school sweethearts that got married young and had no other sexual partners. AND, I've seen older experienced girls get married and settle down with a "nice guy"... though this could eventually blow up one day too. A woman with no other sexual partners may settle down and stay married and faithful because they are fat ogres that no one else would ever want to touch.
Waaayy too many variables. You can't pin it on magic numbers.
Though, I believe in the spirit of what you are saying. Generally, low numbers may bode well for any guy for the most part. All things being equal, this is likely true. A woman's especially high number of previous sex partners may not work in a "nice guy's" favor who can't match the experience.
Just don't get hung up on the literal exact count of sex partners.
deptii 12y ago
It really comes down to the types of relationships she's had. Sex only within LTRs is the best history. ONSs are definitely not looked upon favorably.
I agree. Having preferences and standards is good. Judging people because they don't meet your preferences is pointless and a time waster. Just move on. It's similar to getting rejected by a woman. You can let it get you down and dwell on it or just get on with your life.
ThumpNuts 12y ago
I fully agree with your assessment! We are completely on the "same page."
johnnight 12y ago
Chill out man, not everybody was raised to be a ruthless sociopath without religious morals.
ThumpNuts 12y ago
I think you are misconstruing my views here.
I TRULY felt LOVE for every girl I've banged. It's easy when you can find something to love about most every person. I have love in my heart for all my fellow human beings. I don't view the actually acts of sex itself as some transcendent spiritual experience... though I do share that with my wife now - especially when we are making babies.
If you need to be "in-love" to share a sexual experience with a woman then this better be a woman you would propose to... or else you are not truly "in-love."
AND, if you cannot share a sex experience with a woman without feeling guilty... you're doing it wrong.
PLUS, I totally have sexual morals also, I just don't believe I'm going to burn in hell for eternity for having per-marital sex. I do understand why it is "sinful" and how it could lead to disease and abortions [murder] and other serious and soul damning consequences. I just think pre-marital sex is a much lesser sin than lying or killing.
4tune8 12y ago
Many men are probably in this guy's same position. He's bitter and angry with the realizations that come with swallowing the red pill, and I don't blame him. I'm still angry and bitter (working on getting over it) and I started reading here nearly 6 months ago.
ThumpNuts 12y ago
I'm noticing that more and more now. It really boggles my mind.
I can understand it is happening [anger and bitterness at the realization of whatever aspect of TRP is being accepted] but I can't figure out why. I just can't relate. I would like to understand though. I think it's important because most people feel this way... and I just don't get it.
[deleted] 12y ago
Apparently you are too stupid to comprehend that some have other values than you do.
Pro tip: He does not want to "fuck every chick I could get my hands on", he wants a girl with certain values and certain history for a wife. Also, lol at you thinking "fucking anything" is something one should strive for or be proud of.
ThumpNuts 12y ago
WHOA! Slow your roll there, chief.
I didn't say he SHOULD have those values and I didn't say that was my priority.
Apparently a little clarification is needed, my point seems to have gotten lost amongst the details:
Michael is blaming all women for not having the values he wishes they would have.
Why is it any woman's fault for not living up to Michael's expectations.
Pro tip: Work on your reading comprehension and don't go on the attack because you think someone may be disagreeing with you.
[deleted] 12y ago
You are wrong on all three accounts. Congratulations, that is quite the feat. Go reread the story, but this time without projecting your own values into everything.
Pro tip: He does not want to have his cake and eat it too. He just wants cake, but there is hardly any left in this world.
Honestly tho, I am not going to respond again unless you at least get close to understanding the core of what the OP was about.
ThumpNuts 12y ago
deptii did a good job of explaining this too me. Much better than your snarky response... or do you disagree with him too?
And I was wrong on all 3 counts?:
ONE. Michael is blaming all women for not having the values he wishes they would have.
SUMMARY: Michael does not agree with the priorities of "fun" these women in college had... values he did not share.
TWO. The fact that he's judging every girl he sees is bullshit. It's one thing to go in with a set of "preferences," it's quite another to list every trait and attribute as "good" or "bad." It should be more about what he likes more and what he dislikes. Good example: I like girls who are deep and into discussing philosophy and politics. Bad example: Girls who aren't into philosophy and politics are vapid and stupid -- they are beneath me.
SUMMARY: He doesn't want to commit resources to women he considers sluts in their youth.
THREE Women have been having their cake and eating it too since they've been on this planet... and men can too. Who's stopping anyone?
SUMMARY: He can't have his cake and eat it too because he did not meet the girl of his dreams in his youth. How about he meets the girl of his dreams NOW. Now that he has value and may win the interest of a girl before she becomes a "slut."
What am I misreading here?
mcflash1294 12y ago
...and that is why I'm marrying a woman from another country. A very, very, very poor country.
fruitofmyloom 12y ago
Keep her in that country if you want to survive marriage.
Sturmgeist781 12y ago
FTFY
[deleted] 12y ago
Woahhhh, hold the fuckin phone here...
thatfatpolishdude 12y ago
Took me by surprise too. Considering the bible thumping, I should have seen it coming though.
Sturmgeist781 12y ago
Jesus Christ, how many of you have white guilt here? Here's a quote to someone else throwing out the race card.
"Not a racist comment. It's an observation.
White women know how they will be perceived my other white women and white man if they fuck around with black guys. To most people it lowers their SMV.
Don't get it twisted."
[deleted] 12y ago
There was no justification. And that shit you quoted sounds like some platinum level hamstering right there.
Expect to be called to task if you casually throw out the phrase "Even black/asian/latino guys" on a regular basis.
Sturmgeist781 12y ago
Yea because the black guys and latino guys I know don't deal with the shit of having white girls being "stained" for seeing them.
GTFO if you are going to live in a bubble. People are still fucking racist and women get shit on for dating black guys.
[deleted] 12y ago
People are going to be racist, true, but that doesn't make what racists are espousing OK.
If what you're saying is so true, why are you telling me to GTFO instead of just proving me wrong using your massive intellect?
God damn hamstering all up in my TRP.
Sturmgeist781 12y ago
How the fuck does racism = hamstering?
Your TRP?
Sure there buddy.
[deleted] 12y ago
My TRP what?
Sturmgeist781 12y ago
Are you dense on purpose or just a bad troll?
deville05 12y ago
I like this.. Though i do think michael hasnt really given much to anyone to complain about them not giving back anything. On a side note.. What is an acceptable number on the cock tower? Do you guys want virgins or expect no girl have any "fun"? Not even live a little? I wouldnt want to be with someone who went around fucking things left right and center but i dont expect any girl to not have had sex in their life either. When is it too much or better, when is it a red flag?
mc0079 12y ago
He was an observer of life....Not a participant...Is any one surprised?
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Captain_Self_Promotr 12y ago
Amen.
That said when life gives you lemons... You can acknowledge the situation but the real men try to do something about it. They look harder, they look for younger, they need to attract and go after what they want. A lot of this is passive. Did he ever get on a plane to Eastern Europe? He didn't. And he probably won't. This is a passive guy that doesn't want to put in the work of attraction.
jakethesnake76 12y ago
Yes feminist HATE -(FATHERS/PATRIARCHY) so if you want a son to grow up and be like you( Fuck You) according to Feminist.
__ROOSTER__ 12y ago
There are tons of good girls left and are available to the right man. They are almost always young, which is a complete non issue for a guy in his early thirties.
One issue is guys in their late twenties and thirties don't normally understand their power, and have been age shamed enough by society (read: women) that they think they need to date "age appropriate"
Bullshit.
A successful, cool, wordly, smart, travelled, etc etc, etc Aplha male is the rarest and most valuable of commodities. You just have to realize it, be it, and profit from it.
Successful marriages happen, and RP guys who are smart enough to square away all the rest of life, should be smart enough to hold the proper frame for a successful relationship.
Go learn some game and remove your hunger and self pity, then when you have power and options, close with the woman of your choosing for the right reasons.
johnnight 12y ago
Every guy should know that the default minimal age difference should be at least 2 years, 3 years is better and 8 to 12 years is still good. Marrying women your own age is a recipe for disaster, because your unsuccessful ass is being compared to guys 5-10 years older, who are hitting on her and she can get with them ASAP.
This stupidity comes from putting together people of the same age cohorts in the education system. Male college freshmen should be dating high school girls (!), but they are stuck in the same campus with female college freshmen, who treat them like peasant dirt. Leave the fucking campus and its whores, date impressionable girls from outside the walls. Ignore the age shamers.
I had to internalize the thought that I am not supposed to marry a woman my own age, despite what my stupid friends tell me. It's funny, because I was not good enough for so many gals in the 0-2 age difference range, but I always had interest from cute girls 3, 8, and now even 12 years younger than me. This is natural. A grown guys masculinity beats the young boys cuteness.
I bet in Michael's story all these druggies were older than the sluts. More hairy, more masculine, exactly what their cavewoman brains needed to get off.
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__ROOSTER__ 12y ago
I'm willing to invest in them. Teach them, buy them books and have us discuss them. Send them to cooking classes, massage class or weekend seminars on stuff. It's a cheap investment if they have the right attitude and are staying around for a while.
Even if I'm not paying I'm finding and suggesting things like these for them to do that benefit us. If they get motivated about them and start paying themselves even better, it shows they are motivated to grow.
I only invest in women that are truly pleasers at heart. Ones that get satisfaction out of making their man happy. They will clean, cook, massage and sex you all the time and they know they have to try as they aren't experienced or good at it.
My fiancé is 27 and has a LOT of desirable LTR qualities, the most important to me is loyalty and a dedication to trying to please me. She try's to cook and does ok, I've steered her to do less complicated recipes and do them over and over instead of always doing a one off. We have time, there is no rush. Learn 5 solid recipes and get good at them, then add to that one at a time. As a 48 yo man, who cooked in four star restaurants in HS and college I can do some basics and I've shown her how easy it is to do solid good tasting food with very few ingredients. Something women can't seem to grasp easily.
SeekingAlpha 12y ago
So this guy throws down $72k per year on RENT!?
I understand that LA is an expensive market but dafuq is wrong with this dude blowing all that cash and not building equity?
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Only choose option 2 if you must be married, but I would enjoy my own money, personally.
snoodleflap 12y ago
4) use some of your money to "rent" attractive escorts, hookers and whores.
deptii 12y ago
It sounds like he's not the type to want this type of arrangement.
Also, considering how much he sees about the nature of women, hopefully he's even reconsidering marriage, especially with the money he has.
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watersign 12y ago
many of us will never reach that level of income thanks to obamanomics and impending economic doom. Michael should be happy he isn't going to be held responsible for a family and a wife these days.
phantom_ranger 12y ago
You wanna get me a job out in LA?