Just broke up with my gf of two years a couple months ago, after trying to get back to dating, I’m seeing nothing but severely entitled women. Women that aren’t all that attractive that have a chip on their shoulder and a list of demands that goes down to their knees. After hanging out with some women and getting to know them a pattern emerged, they will get what they want, and don’t really care about your opinion on the matter. I didn’t really notice the amount of legit MANIPULATION that goes on. “Take me here, buy me this, I can do this but if you do it I’ll be mad, show me more attention” etc. at first glance guys just think “well that’s just how women act, what are you gonna do?” But in reality, that’s pretty fucked. (Not trying time toot my own horn I promise) women often ask me to hangout, and when I say no, they get very offended, don’t talk to me for a week or so and then they come around, yet women turn down guys all the time. I don’t want to be a cynical asshole, but I’m not going to get into a relationship in which I’m being graded on how much I text, call, kiss your ass, spend money on you, and divert my attention away from the things I like to do and people I like to hangout with just to “spend time with you”. What the hell are we supposed to do, giving in to bullshit and being conned into non enjoyable relationships is not an option.
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JameisBong 3y ago
Yeah women in 2020 suck. I was at a beach recently and only saw a bunch of fat unattractive Karen's with a few 7s sprinkled in. All of them were coupled up with some beta, that's the environment we live in now.
Balderdash79 3y ago
Hating a woman for being a bitch is like hating a dog for doing dog stuff.
Let it roll like water off a duck's back and keep moving forward.
jihocech 3y ago
MGTOW: we do not recruit, they are just coming.
jnthnrch 3y ago
Tinder makes women believe they are far more desirable and attractive than they are.
Move yourself into the top 10-20% of men (5% is better), and take your pick of the litter.
Kap_0311 3y ago
Good lord at the overtly self centered bios in Tinder. You have to be 6ft, have ten dogs, love horses, have a boat, a good job, be masculine, sensitive, free but not too free, and the whole time this girl looks like a horse’s ass lol
BasilevsNihili 3y ago
On tinder you'll mostly find irrational animals. Don't expect any logic / common sense.
acoltismypassport 3y ago
Tinder is cancer. It's become even more pay-to-play than it was previously. Add in the bogus statistics like likes/views if you're a free user, the sheer lack of efficacy of it all, and that most chicks on there are ugly as fuck with high standards, and you have a useless app.
Hinge and OKCupid are ten times better. You can DM on both, but I think Hinge takes the cake for accessibility. You can literally filter by almost anything, so you don't see anything but your preferences, AND, if you get a certain amount of views in the first 24 hours (by using pics that aren't shit,) they'll give you 'preferred' mode, or whatever the fuck they call it. Full access, basically.
I fire up both those apps when I'm single, and I have access to pussy within a week, tops. Too many SIMPs swiping for weeks on end with nothing so much as a date.
Kap_0311 3y ago
I downloaded hinge and it actually seems much better already, tinder sucks
Self-honest 3y ago
Shit test. They will fuck someone who has none of those things. Don’t fixate on what they say.
Watch what they do.
Kap_0311 3y ago
Shit test is the funniest term I think I’ve ever heard. Makes sense though.
NormalAndy 3y ago
From an evolutionary point of view, it makes a huge amount of sense. Also takes the pressure off: sure you’re getting tested just don’t take it personally because so is everyone else.
INNASKILLZ2K18 3y ago
By being upset or offended by it, you are failing the shit test.
Treat it all as smoke and mirrors. Five year olds saying 'yeeee, look how adult I am'.
Learn to smile, laugh and say 'no, but ten points for trying'.
Get more interested in passing shit tests than wishing girls were different.
AverageAllStar 3y ago
Dating is like sales. It may have gotten worse (harder) but there are still many very attractive women out there who aren't wretched.
Try not to get scornful, work on yourself and keep looking.
Irtotallynotrobot 3y ago
The key is to stop bothering to try and figure out people's bullshit behavior. Let them spin themselves out. Everyone in your life should understand that you run your behavior and if they get on board with that, there's no problem. If not, well, see ya; you're gonna do your thing. No malice or anger behind it, you place yourself at the helm of your life and that's just how it is. The value a woman adds to your life in comparison to that is marginal. Women know that any man who believes otherwise is a fool. Don't be a fool.
MattyAnon Admin 3y ago
Get off the dating apps.
The reality is that if you're bottom 80% then women will be calling the shots. Bottom 80% men are common and willing, so she has no motivation to please them. The power balance is in her favour. She's banging Chad, Chad is banging 20 other girls, and 80% of men are clueless and unattractive and beta.
If you're in the top 5-10% women will value you and treat you better.
Unfair? Totally.
Unreasonable? Absolutely.
See you at the gym
BeastMode34176 3y ago
Welcome to MGTOW, enjoy your stay.
Xercister 3y ago
Yes, you're new to this and the first thing I am going to suggest is read the sidebar. When you're done with that look to amazon and find some books about red pill dating. Worse comes to worse, get on YouTube and look up some of the well known red pill content providers.
Next I would tell you to STOP dating! Don't go out with another single girl as the mindset you have, which is evident in your post, needs to change. Never entertain a date with any of these women. The goal of TRP is to show you that you're the prize, you should value yourself more than ANYONE, and YOU choose the women in your life, not them. If they act like little babies, screw em. No fucks to give and they need to know this up front. Let them know that if they F up, they are out.
Please note that this mindset does not give you the right to be an asshole either. I told my current girl that I am not putting up with anything and I expect the same from her.
It's time us men got back to our nature. Honesty, Integrity, Loyalty. Who cares if women find these traits attractive. What it does is help you build confidence in yourself and that is what women find attractive.
Gather your information, build yourself up, and only then should you get out there dating. Enjoy your life, you're welcome.
Kap_0311 3y ago
This is where I’m at now, not dating and bettering myself and being okay with just being with myself. Thanks for your comment!
silent_dominant 3y ago
Good luck bro. You seem to be in the right mindset. You'll do great
michasv 3y ago
you see this more and more because of the games.
when you try to game you basically saying - "let me be what ever this person wants so i can get whatever i want out of him\her".
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what you end up being is - not you.
if you try to pass "shit tests" on purpose what you're doing in the long run is loosing you're self in the game because you use to say and do what ever will get that shit test over with and not what you really think about doing. but when you pass shit tests it works and people start to value you more and you get addicted to it and that's why you keep playing. the same happens with the media. people game over the net by being what others want them to be they want to impress and get addicted to the attention but you NEED attention (aka - external validation) then you become too concerned with what others think of you (aka low self esteem) and what if you're a perfectionist? (aka too harsh inner self critic) them you develop social anxiety and now you heading on the long road to become narcissistic. and it all started because you got addicted to external validation. it's a down spiral and it becomes a social epidemic that people becoming more and more phony.
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modern chicks knows how to play what to say what to do and they have power because they have options so they demand. they also insecure as fuck because when tinder says 10000 guys like you in a day but you still single for a year and can't keep a relationship and somehow things in reality aren't working like it works in tinder then you start to develop self doubt. so they game and play and look for more and more proof that they ARE those personas like in tinder. and you want to fuck. so many guys end up doing what they like without noticing that they want too much and that the expectations are unreal.
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that's why i say that if a chick had this period of "dating" too much then she's already fucked. she's not a relationship material and that is the deep wisdom of why back in the days all of this "hoeing" around was banned. because look what it does to you're interpersonal relationships... you can denie it but you already see that half of them females are screwed up for life and there is a hell of a depression expecting them when they'll hit the wall just after their 30's....
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woodensho 3y ago
Have you even read the sidebar? Do you even lift?
Low effort low quality post. These are shittests. You clearly aren’t passing any.
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Kap_0311 3y ago
That’s where I’m headed, the climate is just shocking though
gjfarma 3y ago
Relax bro. Plenty of women out there who ain't pieces of shit. Give the attention whores a wide berth, even if they're hot..they never seem to be worth it.
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gjfarma 3y ago
Good man. Tbh it is easy to screen, especially with abundance mentality - you have few qualms ditching loser girls.
Self-honest 3y ago
It’s a shit test bud. You aren’t supposed to give in to any of that shit. Those who do are suckers and those who don’t get the pussy for free.
They are filtering hard af, looking for that alpha dick or free stuff, whichever you are offering is up to you.
Dual mating strategy 101
FrenCan316 3y ago
Asymmetric expectations. Most modern women want everything for nothing. The level of entitlement is pathetic. But you know they aren't getting what they want and aren't happy, surprise surprise.
cunningcaring 3y ago
Just say ‘no’ to anyone who doesn’t work for you.
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get yourself a depressed gf to raise her self esteem and make both of you better people
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BasilevsNihili 3y ago
Lol. A depressed gf means she has some kind of emotional bagagge. And often they express it with self-destructive behaviours: being a h0e, emotionally controling and manipulating their partner. Mix that in with the narcissism that is so standart today, you got a yourself a huge mess to take care of.
Getting a depressed woman is asking for extra problems on top of the standart ones.
silent_dominant 3y ago
But the sex is pretty great though
BasilevsNihili 3y ago
That's why they are pump and dump material mostly. They'll give you the p-sleeve but are terrible partners. And then they get increasingly depressed because people treat them as objects, which is what they do to themselves.
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why do you use 't' at the end of your words?
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KirthWGersen 3y ago
All women have things they want to get out of relationships; as do men.
The sexual marketplace is just like a market for goods and services.
We all try to maximise the amount of value we receive, in exchange for the lowest value we can give.
Simply don't be conned into giving more value than you are willing to give for what you are getting back. The choice is yours. Some women are worth your time/money and others are not.
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