This post is part of a series covering our first summer group-read book, BRONZE AGE MINDSET. For the next month, I'll be reading Bronze Age Mindset, and dissecting what I find interesting. Feel free to make your own posts, if anything I missed strikes you as interesting! This post is a bit of an off-shoot, inspired by BAP, and we’ll be taking a look at the origin of “girl craziness” in pop-culture.
"Wherever love and sex prevail, women will command sooner or later" - Julius Evola, L'Arco e la Clava
As we are about to conclude Part Two of BRONZE AGE MINDSET, as much as BAP may be a bit prone to well-meaning meandering (UNLIKE ME, jkjk), we can glean from the work so far that the overarching theme is that the bug-man is an infection of consumerism, in all facets, and can be likened to something equivalent to mind control by vice. In fact, I explained this in my own, rather meandering essay, on the nature of masculinity as calculated risk:
The bugman exists as an infection of consumerism. To the bugman, there is no higher degree of satisfaction than money and women- not wicked in their own right, but neither should be ends in themselves. The masculine man will demand a deeper experience, spitting in the face of risk to attain something which transcends what the bug can understand. When a bug’s goal is money and women they’ll settle for achieving either with the least amount of energy exerted- leaving them enslaved to a master both at home and at work.
Men produce and women consume; the modern world (let's call this post-WW2) has made a conscious push for men to become equally dependent consumers. And why not? There is nothing to be gained by those elites (who live to exploit) with a population of strong, self-sufficient patriarchs. Men, at their most based, need very little. Coffee in the morning, meat at night. A book to read and a notebook to journal. Maybe it isn't that sinple really, but it's close enough.
There is no money to be made in strong men. There is money to be made in dependent, needy men obsessed with dopamine fixes- this is the origin of "girl craziness."
It's too easy to mistake some things for "the way they always were." The idea that teenage boys were always desperately horny and "girl crazy," as seen in our pop-culture depictions of adolescent life in post-WW2 pop-culture, is taken for granted as an inherent vice of teenage life.
Think of George McFly in "Back to the Future" (1985) spending his time peeping with binoculars, and Biff Tannen pathetically chasing Lorraine. This was presented as immutable fact: teenage boys are most obsessed with girls, boobs, and pussy.
Now teenage boys are addicted to internet porn, socially inept, and more likely to be life-long unmarried incels at a far higher rate- and, historically, when there are too many frustrated incels in the world population, things tend to go boom.
BRONZE AGE MINDSET is a deliberate attempt to dial-back girl craziness. If you follow BAP on twitter, he will often post #HandsomeThursday pictures of heavily built and sculpted men. In fact, the back cover of the book lists part of his mission as: "national nudism." I won't say he is trolling you, per se, or trying to subconsciously get you to be gay (certainly not), but what he's doing is trying to shift your consciousness away from girl craziness.
Post-WW2 pop-culture has been too happy to define men through the lens of what they can do for women. Maybe this started when dishonest politicians figured out that women can be a larger force in a democracy than men? But post-WW2, it was common for men to be depicted as thirsty dogs with hard dicks and nothing more. Not such a coincidence that the rise of pornography occurred concurrent to this, now is it?!
Prior to WW2, pop-culture depictions of adolescent boys centered on "girl hating" (think of a tree-house in an episode of Little Rascals with a sign posted "NO GIRLS ALLOWED!!"), adventurous pursuits, and male-friendships.
In fact, author Jeffery Dennis cites several rules common to all pre-war depiction of boys and boy-life in his book "We Boys Together: Teenagers in Love before Girl-Craziness" (2007):
- All boys are straight.
- At puberty, boys hang out with each other, or adult mentors.
- Other than infants, only four-eyes, fatties, and fairies hang out with girls.
- At around 18, boys marry [a girl, we must add today], get a job, and raise a family, ending their period of fun and freedom.
Also important to note that too much male-friendship today is a source of mockery ("bromance," or subtle accusations of homosexuality), and male adult mentor-ship is labeled outright as pedophilia (seemingly the only kind of pedophilia people are willing to be critical of, hmmmmm.... or, equally curious, when genuine article homosexuals mentor children, no accusations are made at all, also HMMMMMMM).
In line with our own theory on THE RED PILL, the only way to succeed in life is to stop worrying about girls- stop being so girl crazy- and concentrate on building value, producing not consuming, and learning to be masculine. The type of "girl craziness" we see depicted in pop-culture, which became a slippery slope to porn and masturbation addiction, is a distraction from this and not necessarily the natural state of boys- something precious and easily corruptible.
Ever wonder why the old adage was that masturbation was shameful, unhealthy, and could make you blind?
Well, now you know.
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Ill_mumble_that 3y ago
Hell. The pedestal disappears the second you ask a woman to work a job as a garbage truck pickup person.
sarge4566 3y ago
It's not just "easy times". The right wing ideologies lost a physical war (WW2 and WW1) leading to a liberal-progressive takeover (due to the power vacuum created) that has progressively (lol) morphed the culture of the West into absurdity. Initially it was the 1968 generation, now it's full blown anti-Western hatred.
I believe the conclusion will be physical annihilation of what they call majority groups. Oswald Spengler, a crucial thinker who wrote the masterpiece "decline of the West" believed that the West was in the late stage of its growth and ripe for collapse. The entire occident is currently living in this last stage where all kind of decadent and degenerate ideologies and events occur. Just as they did in the last part of the Roman Empire.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/801754.The\_Decline\_of\_the\_West?ac=1&from\_search=true
TLDR: Prosperity is not the problem. Rome had 200 years of peace under Augustus which made all of Europe prosperous. It's civilisational decline (largely predicated on the virility of the nation, its age pyramid, etc) and the wrong ideologies taking over that lead to problems.
Really sorry to be writing such a dark post but its the reality of the West today. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Ash_thearcher 3y ago
I agree with everything you say, except I’m confused about “right wing ideologies lost the war.” Wouldn’t the USA beating nazi Germany and (eventually) prevailing over the communist USSR and its subjects prove that the right wing ideology of free market conservatism and capitalism won?
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sarge4566 3y ago
What you (and many Americans) are confused about is that you classify American liberalism as a strongly right wing ideology (that includes neoconservatism and neoliberalism, both post 1960 inventions which now dominate our world).
You have to understand that broadly speaking, there were three major political currents in the West by the 20th century:
Essentially #1 was wiped out by WW2. And #3 wiped itself out (causing much damage in the process aka the raping of Eastern Europe, Vietnam, China, etc).
But what was left dominant was American liberalism, specifically the variants known as neoliberalism and neoconservatism. These ideologies essentially ran the West into the ground as we speak. These are the ideologies which led to useless wars like Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.
In truth American liberal capitalism suffered a near collapse in 1929, but was effectively saved by near Authoritarian policies (the New Deal) as well as the destruction wrought by Americans during WW2.
But its important to understand that on the political spectrum...There were much harder right ideologies existing in the West in the early 20th century.
Ash_thearcher 3y ago
Thanks, that was very informative.
CountBarlow 3y ago
Isn’t this forum like the worst example of girl craziness though? Nothing but in depth analysis of female behavior.
GetBehindMeSatan666 3y ago
This subs Number fucking 1 commandment is "Focus on yourself" prior to even going after any woman. Emphasis on the word "Commandment" its not a suggestion to get your shit together here.
This sub and AskTRP both scream to get your own personal mission first. Then the girls will follow you. There is no "chasing" or "girl crazy" if youre doing it right the woman chase you.
CountBarlow 3y ago
Not talking about chasing, I’m talking about focusing on women in any fashion, even if it is indirectly by “focusing on yourself”. By focusing on self-improvement, you are just building yourself into something a woman can better utilize for her own ends. I definitely think you should seek to accomplish great things, but there is a subtle distinction between taking risks and “self improvement”. One is about being a man, the other is cuckoldry with more steps.
GetBehindMeSatan666 3y ago
At the end of the day most of everything you are doing is an attempt to appeal to the opposite sex. Its the most basic primal male drive to be the best to get the best.
The trick is weeding out the ones who only want you for your status and accomplishments to elevate their own and that is just female nature. Much easier said than done.
CountBarlow 3y ago
I think weeding out the good ones is a bit of self delusion, and even this forum has AWALT as one of its tenets. I also think it is self-delusion to say that most posts here aren’t about women in some direct or indirect way. I guess my point is, if your life revolves around women and trying to get one, or weeding the good ones out, or “doing x thing better” so that you can possibly get one, you are screwed from the get go. But I guess this is a lesson that people have to learn for themselves, individually and societally. It isn’t self improvement that’s the problem, it’s self improvement in pursuit of women, which is what this forum is half about, and the other half is about how women are evil.
4oic5u2o 3y ago
Fasting + semen retention (no masturbation or porn or cumming) + internet detox + pursuit of goals = greatness for yourself.
mgtowthroww 3y ago
I think sex is OK. But not masturbation to porn. I also do fast and run everyday. Having sex though is natural. I've also read studies that says masturbation releases certain chemicals that aren't released during sex. Hence why Sex is completely natural.
4oic5u2o 3y ago
Yes, I agree that sex OK. I think it is interesting to think about who you are as a man if you abstain from it. Fasting, nofap(semen retention) and internet detox allow you to think about how you spend your time, what you really need in life, and figure out who you are. Who are you as a man if you aren't chasing tail? What do you think about once you aren't distracted from the constant instant gratification of the internet?
If you have the chance to bang a chick, do it. Life is short. If you are constantly fucking and think you are a man because of it, stop and see for yourself who you are.
Either way, memento mori.
mgtowthroww 3y ago
I am working on internet detox. I've deleted Facebook/Instagram and feel much better about it. Now I'm trying to cut off YouTube and Reddit. I've cut it for a few days and I felt that I had a lot of time in my hands but eventually I came back to it.
4oic5u2o 3y ago
The only thing that works is to use my time doing things that are beneficial to me and fun. The internet is bad when there is no direction or purpose in using it. It is great if you want to learn something that you will actually find useful. If you are using it because you are bored then it becomes a problem.
Good luck.
mgtowthroww 3y ago
True that! Thanks - you 2
rlzx 3y ago
BAP is a mutual of mine on Twitter, much respect for him and his body of work.
I think a better approach, put forth by Owen Cyclops (another luminary in that Twitter circle), would be to emphasize imagery of woman not intended to arouse. Think the Mona Lisa, or similar-era art that idealize the feminine ideal and holistic beauty, instead of tripe sexualized beauty.
I know BAP includes imagery of chiseled men for another specific reason, out of the scope of this discussion, so I think for him it's fine. But to best conquer the sexually-charged imagery of modern women, counterbalance with non-sexualized imagery of the feminine ideal.
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