I never had trouble with picking up chicks, for me I just analyzed situations and played them accordingly and that always worked. But more often than not these days, they are just sluts, nearly all of them. After a few years of this shit, its just making me more dead inside. It's at the point where I'll be fucking a girl and feel nothing at all, I'm just doing it to prove to myself that I'm still a man but I don't enjoy them. They are so empty, they provide nothing yet judge your every move, they cry about your lack of attention yet have no loyalty to it whatsoever. What have we become? Is this hedonism all there is in our era? Why were we even sold the lie of romance in the first place?
I know a lot of you guys shit on going your own way because its the equivalent of "giving up" but if is all just to release in some thots pussy every week I don't know whats the point in this. I have a career I wanna build, a horror novel i need to promote, stuff that makes me feel productive. But going from girl to girl just to be emotionally detached and play this character just doesn't feel worth my energy, it's not even pleasurable anymore.
I won't say I'm writing off women forever but for now I'm just done.
CraxoRB26 5y ago
I must prepare myself when this shit spreads to my country. After all, Latin American mainstream culture is flooded with "American" entertainment, and thus its degeneracy. This place has its own problems but atleast some men are still men.
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Blackphish88 5y ago
Don't think of it as giving up my man. It's a rigged game and women are the carnies. Anyone gives you shit remember this.
If you gotta be guilted or shamed into doing something, it's is very likely not to your benefit and often times your detriment.
yomo86 5y ago
I came to terms with it and go full asshole Chad on them. Strangely enough it makes women better people if you do it with a reasoning. At once, I confronted a plate who wanted to be a LTR with the fact of what she does for me except sex, she cannot cook nor clean. Why should I be together with her since her personality is argumentative at best on top of that. She honestly tried to change her tone and tune.
Liburnian 5y ago
After RP rage subsided, I'm now encountering this... It's been 4 years since I discovered it. I learned a lot, and admitted to myself I was right about even more things than I was willing to project in social interactions. Women are barely more than collecting containers for your semen and money. They choke you with romantic nonsense, and when you actually decline sex couple of times they go full psycho on you. Can't we just enjoy each other's company every now and then? Apparently not, because we don't actually have anything to talk about. We are two distant worlds, brought together by a common biological urge. Much like cats and dogs socialize in heat. Women are sad creatures to think of.
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1v1crown 5y ago
Ever think maybe you are a slut?
Shoregrey 5y ago
Because "getting laid" isn't a purpose.
marksiwelforever 5y ago
Try fucking a dude , nothing more alpha than that
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chazthundergut 5y ago
Here are your problems:
After a few years of this shit, its just making me more dead inside.
Women are not the answer. No female can make you feel "alive inside" or give your life purpose. You are looking for satisfaction in the wrong place- between a woman's legs
I'm just doing it to prove to myself that I'm still a man but I don't enjoy them
Same as above. Why are you looking for your manhood from a female? You are fucking them for the wrong reasons. Never look for validation or proof of manhood from a female
Stop fucking around with women. Get to work and build your career. Write your novel and keep chasing after your purpose.
Once you have found your north star and have aligned your life to it, women will be like a fun compliment to your life. Not the source of your internal life, not the proof of your manhood.
xesup2 5y ago
It was made by beta males to justify monogamy. So each beta gets a woman which otherwise would go to an alpha.
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Religion supported it, to get the support of betas.
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Nobody asked women what they wanted, because their opinion/support was worthless. If it is something that the "patriarchy" did to hurt women, it was monogamy, and yet feminists pretend to support it.
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Unfortunately, giving so many women to betas multiplied beta males, and those betas were covered with blue pills, to make it even worse. That's why all man feel unworthy and all women are frustrated, controlling and angry.
WoodleyWarrior85 5y ago
Women in moderation, just like every thing else. Fucking thots is not supposed to be the point of life. That said, it can be an enjoyable way to release some steam once a week.
Don't look for the meaning of life in women. Or in any one thing. The meaning of life is found in the whole. It's about your overall lifestyle. It's fine to be laser focused on your mission, career, side hustle, hobbies, etc. You can do this 5 or 6 days a week. I don't see why it has to preclude you from hooking up, though.
Bartand 5y ago
MGTOW is waking up, not giving up. Get a cat and dog and fleshlight. Thanks me later.
Auvergnat 5y ago
You may be ready for a LTR. You may be able to find one who adds to your life (can cook, clean, decorate, is good at it, loves it, and wants to be a “first mate” to the ship you command) so that it frees up your time and mind from the mundane so you can pour it in your missions.
And then at the 2-years mark you can update to a younger model if you feel like it (or start navigating in the dangerously waters towards mariage if having kids is part of your mission).
Imperator_Red 5y ago
This is the million dollar question isn't it....
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
Look to other elements of your life for fulfillment and satisfaction. Your Mission will always be there for you.
Alternately, if it's femininity and supportiveness you're looking for from women, consider taking a vacation to an eastern Asian country. Women from Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Taiwan, and the Philippines can be refreshingly feminine.
Admiral529 5y ago
Monk mode is there for you if you need it. It helped me get through the depression phase. Just make sure to pull yourself out of it after a while.
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magx01 5y ago
I never left. Been seven years almost and I have truly never been better.
Hombremaniac 5y ago
Was it hard to know, when to stop?
Psychocist 5y ago
I've been in monk mode for the last 16 months. It can be difficult to pull yourself out because productive solitude is the closest you'll likely have ever come to true, sustainable bliss.
Stop whenever you feel ready to re-engage with the world.
Hombremaniac 5y ago
Inspiring words, thanks for sharing.
Admiral529 5y ago
For me I knew when I should pull myself out, but after living a life of being a "yes man" who would put everyone's else's needs first, it was almost addicting to focus just on myself. When you shrug off the societal pressures, the distractions, and the mental masturbation, it is really tough for a few weeks. Like coming off of a drug. Once that wears off though, I shit you not, you become high on life.
You fall into this rythym of discipline and focus, almost like cruise control. But just like with any growth, if you don't start to face new challenges, you will eventually stagnate. Stagnation kills.
Setting a goal of when to end can help. If not, usually the world will nudge you a little bit when it's time. For me it was when my Grandpa passed away. I had taken a break from family commitments up until that point, and his death really pushed me back into the fray.
The-Red-Vagabond 5y ago
I definitely agree with this the depression/anger phase + winter blues felt absolutely AWFUL for me throughout this winter, but I managed to pull through in the end.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Agree completely. When you stop unconsciously working for others, or other's approval, but for yourself there is a freedom in that.
You're right about stagnation. At any point we are either moving backwards, or forwards. There is no middle ground.
Hombremaniac 5y ago
And for how long did you stay in monk mode?
I can not 100% disconnect since I have son. Then again it's been 2 years I've broke up with his mother, I quit the following LTR (was not leading where I wanted) so unless I have father obligations during weekend, I can do my own things. Should be good enough for what I need to do (put my shit together).
Admiral529 5y ago
Yeah that can be tough when you have obligations like that. I stayed in for about a year and would have kept going if I could.
Everything is best in Moderation. Including moderation. If you are in monk mode for 4 or 5 days out of the week, and spending the other days teaching your son to be a strong man, I think you are doing better than most.
Hombremaniac 5y ago
Thanks for info and encouragement!
Metalgear222 5y ago
You’ll know when you wake up in the morning refreshed and ready to kill the day, and IOI’s will skyrocket from women from your raw confidence. That’s when I started gaming again. I monked for over a year.
jackandjill22 5y ago
This guy seems like he's feeling nihilistic & hedonism isn't going to cause him to radiate confidence.
golden_juicebox 5y ago
i wish i felt like that. For me it's wakeup, hate that i have to get out of bed, slowly manage to get up over the next 30 minutes, get ready, and leave and go to university and have a shit day filled with anxiety.
RedKingRising 5y ago
You're depressed and you haven't accepted the fact that you will die. Get some help.
golden_juicebox 5y ago
I started cbt the other day if that’s what you nean
Metalgear222 5y ago
What’s your lifting routine look like?
Silent_Snek 5y ago
Second this. Nothing better than a focused day of lifting heavy things. It’s purely for you and you alone. Your subconscious mind will also know that you accomplished something foundational and solid and that leaks out into the rest of the day.
golden_juicebox 5y ago
stronglifts M W F. thinking of adding running in as i remember i tried it out before and i felt good while i had that habit going. probably Couch 2 5k.
i usually lift in the evenings when im tired from the day, but maybe I should start lifting early in the morning when i have my energy.
doubtless_abyss 5y ago
Cardio fixed the stuck to the bed thing for me
damodar_villeneuve 5y ago
What do you do when you are on a monk mode?
Admiral529 5y ago
Mainly just focusing on improving yourself. This post explains it better than I ever could: https://illimitablemen.com/2014/04/13/monk-mode/
The-Snuffleupagus 5y ago
Complete celibacy and meditation. Using introspection to decide who you are and what you what you want to become. What truly makes you happy is the wind in your sails.
magx01 5y ago
Welcome to the other side of the veil :) From this point forward you can look forward to emotional stability, mental clarity, freedom, money saving and productivity like never before.
goodboy1112111 5y ago
Get thee a passport, my man.
TheRedPillMonkey 5y ago
You're emotionally detached and angry. Really, the anger phase.
Nothing wrong with it. You're getting solid lays by sketchy thots and that's fun, for awhile. But you have it in your mind that's all women are good for. Lying whores who suck your dick, take it in the butt, and then silently judge you and berate the patriarchy.
There is a lot of distance between thotsville and betatown. Remembering she is never yours, it's only your turn, doesn't always mean for the night.
You may need to monk mode awhile. Stop fucking anyone and stop caring. What you'll come to realize is that the girl you plate is almost never the girl you date. The girl you date proves herself to you, enjoys your company, and earns a place that you actually enjoy her around. At least for your turn on the ride, however long it is. You have to be open to that possibility, while never actively seeking it.
thrownaway2thewind 5y ago
Solid advice here my dude
I come across this every once in awhile, girls that think they want the whole romance thing. But I just can't take their "feelings" seriously, its too maliable and inconsistent, one day she wants to be your girl the next she's drunk in the city hooking up with a random. Thank god I don't give a fuck anymore about any one girl in particular, but they could have the best intentions and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between her and a thot.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Bro I mostly agree with you but you are taking this shit too far.
If a girl is super into she won't be going out with her friends partying without you all the time, and if she does then next that skank. Of my current girl and my last ltr, over a combined period of 2.5 years, I think they went out drinking with their friends without me maybe... once a quarter? And I was probably invited to some of those times and didn't feel like going.
Could they be/have been cheating on me? Fuck, who knows? Maybe? But things are not as bad as you are making them out to be. All women have hypergamy. All women employ AF/BB. But not every woman is going out and getting drunk with friends and choking on random cocks every weekend. At least not yet.
Also I don't really recommend this... but you could always try going for slightly less attractive girls than you are capable of getting. They are usually pretty happy to land a good dude. Cheating is always a possibility but you don't have to worry about monkey branching.
457755263 5y ago
Yep. Dated one. She put on a believable "good girl" front, but in the end, she a ho
BobbyPeru 5y ago
They all can be a ho given the right city and Chad
Trenned_out 5y ago
See I'm even worse off in a way (no self pity, let me explain). I had a LTR, during it I was varying degrees of red pill aware, but definitely aware.
I was truly in love at one point, however that all came and went, the thing was, the girl had her flaws and did some shitty things, but wasn't a total hoe, didnt cheat etc. I think my current detachment is because it really drove home the point that even with a "good" girl, they are gonna put you through some BS and it'll come and go.
I'm not saying I want a serious LTR again, I think it'll be quite some time before I'm open to that, but I would just like to enjoy the plates I bang or hangout with more than I currently do. Apathy sucks.
thrwy75479 5y ago
It's the difference between being process-oriented, and goal-oriented.
If you're goal-oriented when thinking about life, you're thinking, "What's the point? What's the goal here, really?" This can lead to dark and depressing thoughts because, yes, in that sense, there's really no end goal for a human outside of, perhaps, procreation and proliferation of our species.
Thus, when you're contemplating life, it helps to be process-oriented. This means being in the moment, enjoying life as it is, and taking it day-by-day. Be grateful that you're alive to see and experience all that is good and bad, and this includes women.
Appreciate them for what they are. Life becomes drab without them. In fact, I would encourage you to try that. Go off women for some time. See what your life is like without them. No porn, videos and pics included. No friends that are girls either.
I think you'll find that you'll be okay, everything becomes ordered and organized, you may even accomplish some things. But, it's all rather grey.
No one teasing you about that new t-shirt you bought, no one to push you to try out that new restaurant, no one to bug you about your feelings, no hairpins anywhere, no one to boss around and discipline when she's been naughty, no one who wants you to care for them and protect them.
There's no fun. They add colour to what would otherwise be a very dull life.
uwey 5y ago
Go have as much safe sex with as many women as you can.
I spend 10 year doing something along with that goal.
-travel a lot. 30 countries and adding
-fight someone. Pick a fight at least once.
-live in other country. Be EXPET. -fuck all kinds of women. -work in at least 10 different industries.
-lift. -kill a animal and eat it. -have a dog and live with it. -start a business, and failed. -be homeless, 6 month on.
-learn something you never thought you could, I did trapeze and gymnastics.
-go swim once in black ocean without moonlight, and find your way back.
-triathlon, I did sprint, and eventually the painful Iron Man. 14-15 hr, bike is the worst and it feels like eternity. You think 17hr is plenty......and so many time I want to give up, this is by far the worst event, my whole body hurts, cramp, bleeding, exhaustion etc. But I finish, that is the key, to finish.
-marathon. -cave diving. -get fat, and go back in shape.
I still want to learn Jazz Piano.
I have not yet be a beggar, I bet I can be very efficient beggar.
Full time alcoholic, that is for sure.
That is a lot to do in life.
I am looking forward for failure because that is how I feel the chase, I am naturally a chaser and I had to behind in order to ignite the boost. I will purposely follow someone in order to surpass them.
Find your gig.
Read ”Principle” by Ray Dalio. It will change your life like 48 law did.
GEN_GOTHMOG 5y ago
I've maintained the exact same assertion for a while now.
I own 4 businesses, none of which would exist if i'd been involved with women at any point in my life. But admittedly, I've not been involved with women because frankly I'm not attractive. But in all seriousness there is no way I'd trade my life now for some poon to shoot a miserable load in. Fuck that.
someonesopinion6969 5y ago
Use that anger to fuel your horror novels
conorscottvanek 5y ago
Proverbs 31 New International Version (NIV)
Sayings of King Lemuel
31 The sayings of King Lemuel—an inspired utterance his mother taught him.
2 Listen, my son! Listen, son of my womb!
Listen, my son, the answer to my prayers!
3 Do not spend your strength[a] on women,
your vigor on those who ruin kings.
4 It is not for kings, Lemuel—
it is not for kings to drink wine,
not for rulers to crave beer,
5 lest they drink and forget what has been decreed,
and deprive all the oppressed of their rights.
6 Let beer be for those who are perishing,
wine for those who are in anguish!
7 Let them drink and forget their poverty
and remember their misery no more.
8 Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves,
for the rights of all who are destitute.
9 Speak up and judge fairly;
defend the rights of the poor and needy.
Epilogue: The Wife of Noble Character
10 [b]A wife of noble character who can find?
She is worth far more than rubies.
11 Her husband has full confidence in her
and lacks nothing of value.
12 She brings him good, not harm,
all the days of her life.
13 She selects wool and flax
and works with eager hands.
14 She is like the merchant ships,
bringing her food from afar.
15 She gets up while it is still night;
she provides food for her family
and portions for her female servants.
16 She considers a field and buys it;
out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.
17 She sets about her work vigorously;
her arms are strong for her tasks.
18 She sees that her trading is profitable,
and her lamp does not go out at night.
19 In her hand she holds the distaff
and grasps the spindle with her fingers.
20 She opens her arms to the poor
and extends her hands to the needy.
21 When it snows, she has no fear for her household;
for all of them are clothed in scarlet.
22 She makes coverings for her bed;
she is clothed in fine linen and purple.
23 Her husband is respected at the city gate,
where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.
24 She makes linen garments and sells them,
and supplies the merchants with sashes.
25 She is clothed with strength and dignity;
she can laugh at the days to come.
26 She speaks with wisdom,
and faithful instruction is on her tongue.
27 She watches over the affairs of her household
and does not eat the bread of idleness.
28 Her children arise and call her blessed;
her husband also, and he praises her:
29 “Many women do noble things,
but you surpass them all.”
30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;
but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.
31 Honor her for all that her hands have done,
and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.
AnakinRebornRage 5y ago
For a long time I've blamed my strong religious background partially for my extreme blue pill raising and still do to an extent but seeing passages like this brings me comfort in knowing the truth was actually sitting there all along. Thank you for this.
conorscottvanek 5y ago
Yeah the day I read Proverbs in its entirety is the day I became a man. So much wisdom in there from King Solomon - and so much of it is about adulterous women.
trele_morele 5y ago
Once you find your purpose in life, one that doesn't involve women, you'll feel otherwise. Shit feels pointless because your life is pointless because that's what you've made it
Marcozy14 5y ago
Ah. The double edge sword of TRP. It's kind of ironic, because so many guys devote so much time to get good at TRP principles (myself included), but once you climb to the top of that mountain, you realize that the shiny trophy you were chasing was just a small $18 piece of plastic covered in cheap gold paint. I'm in a similar boat as you right now. I'd feel so much more compelled to spend the time/energy on women if AWALT wasn't a thing... If there was some special rare breed of woman out there who would challenge me, teach me things, inspire me- make me believe TRP is a load of shit and that falling in love exists.
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But then I come back to reality. I used to have emotions. I used to 'like' girls, sometimes get butterflies when they texted me, or called. I'd be excited about dates, because I'd be challenging myself to 'get the girl'..... Now its just completing the task at hand, and it's become rather easy, monotonous work. I've become somewhat robotic.
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Ultimately I'm glad I was introduced to TRP, but sometimes I feel like I wouldn't have minded being an ignorant blue pill-er not having any idea who Morpheus is. Good luck brother.
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RevolutionaryPea7 5y ago
Whatever pill you took, chances are you'd eventually be exposed to the true nature of women. The Red Pill gives you the tools to deal with that. The Blue Pill would cause you to blame yourself and try to be "even better" for the next slut. What would you prefer?
For me getting the shitty trophy has been liberating. I went from orbiting my oneitis and having my heart broken to effortlessly spinning multiple plates. I look at that oneitis now and she's hit the wall while I'm fucking girls 5-6 years younger than her. I don't give a shit about my plates even though they treat me like a king.
6 years ago I did what I wanted but started to get this deep feeling that I was missing out on love and happiness. Now I know the love I was looking for doesn't exist and that happiness comes from within, so I'm free to do what I want again.
trollreign 5y ago
It's good to point out the "dark side" of TRP. I have been loosely following this sub for 4 years, of which I spent 1.5 in a long-term cohabiting relationship; I've come to TRP as that relationship gradually went down the shitter.
I've read pretty much everything there is to read on TRP, including only loosely connected scientific literature, "self-help books", and some PUA stuff. It helped me get better at getting women, but most importantly, they helped me stand up straight, both literally and figuratively.
But now 4 years in - having had many ups and downs -, I've lost 20 kilos, developed into an intermediate lifter, banged a good number of girls in the HB5-8 range spinning 4-5 plates at some points, I've reached a major career goal, I'm well into six figures, just moved into a penthouse apartment, and am about to buy my childhood "dream car". A "success story" viewed from the outside but I feel empty inside. I just feel nothing. I literally wouldn't care if a bus hit me tomorrow and I died.
Recently I've been wondering whether repeatedly rolling the dice on blue pill relationships would have given me more happiness than the truth. It may well be the case that ignorantly hoping to hit the (non-existent) "jackpot" is better than accepting that there's no jackpot and playing the game without the prospect of a "real" reward.
Trgnv3 5y ago
Achieving someone else's definition of success/happiness doesnt make you happy? Who would've thought
TacticalPolonium 5y ago
Some say the struggle to be successful is the most interesting time of your life, not the success itself.
Trenned_out 5y ago
TMRL bro. This is exactly how I feel lately. High 70's n count. At this point I basically game just because. The return on investment (enjoyment I get from a lay or whatever) is really waning and I'm less motivated than ever.
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Also just saw your edit. I also take test (among other things) and that does influence things for sure. I think now though my enjoyment of women is separate from my sex drive even. I feel as if something deeper is going on with me and being disillusioned
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Marcozy14 5y ago
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I take exogenous testosterone. I find it interesting that when my T levels are high, I subconsciously re-download all of my dating apps and spend the next few weeks glued to my phone scheduling dates like a maniac, going on dates, enjoying myself.... When my T levels are average/low, I go back to the above. Not sure if that means anything to you, just something I recently picked up on.
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frooschnate 5y ago
To me this season is the worse. I don’t know if it’s lack of sunlight and the shit weather but holy shit it’s taking a toll on me.
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frooschnate 5y ago
Maybe. Live in California 5 mins away from the beach and try to be as long as possible under direct sunlight though.
Used to live in Ecuador, where we get steaming hot ass sun and heat all year long, think that transition is what fucked w me.
Did think about taking supplements, I’ll look into it
PosnerRocks 5y ago
Vitamin D. Even with all the California sunshine, most people around here are deficient since they are in offices all day.
Trgnv3 5y ago
You've never met a woman who "inspired, taught, or challenged" you? I guess you've been hanging out with some shit women. Go find some MIT/Harvard/Stanford etc. grad students/faculty or something, it's extremely likely they are more intelligent and inspiring than you will ever be
Lieisnotreal 5y ago
What the fuck is this guy saying : inspiring women ? Really man ? Get out of here
Trgnv3 5y ago
You also, it seems like, have only met shit women in your life. I shudder to think what your circle of acquaintances looks like. You ever heard the saying "if you are the smartest person in the room, you are in the wrong room"? Well it applies not only to intelligence, and certainly to both men and women. My condolences.
Lieisnotreal 5y ago
You ever heard the saying "If you think women can be smart you're probably a huge white knight bluepilled virgin gaylord piece of trash with absolutely no experience with women" ?
PosnerRocks 5y ago
Spoken like some dude who slams bar trash on the reg. I love me an intelligent and ruthless woman. Especially litigators. Get outta here with your small town GED trash.
Trgnv3 5y ago
Now I have, and I gotta say, that's some meme-worthy gold! With that outlook, have you considered fucking/dating guys? That way you could at least experience what it's like to be with someone you respect, whose company you enjoy on multiple levels AND you get to have sex with them. It feels pretty good!
Lieisnotreal 5y ago
I will answer with a quote from Charles Baudelaire I like : "To love intelligent women is the pleasure of a pederast" Have YOU considered fucking men ?
Trgnv3 5y ago
Ah yes, the same guy who attempted suicide over a woman and wrote to his mother "believe that I belong to you absolutely, and that I belong only to you." I'm genuinely curious now, have you never interacted with/met/heard of a woman who you considered intelligent, or at least more so or equally intelligent to you? Do you believe that they simply don't exist, or that they are just not worth dating/sleeping with? If it's the latter (which is consistent with the quote you provided), why? I don't see the suggestion to sleep with a man as an insult, but the women I've dated have mostly been intelligent, some very much so, so I never felt like I was missing out on sleeping with someone I considered intelligent by sleeping with women.
Lieisnotreal 5y ago
Women are by nature not intelligent. They are emotionnal animals, they feel before they think, and when they do think it is purely based upon feelings. They are not explorers in the physical sense and that applies to the work of the mind too, they're conformists and that ruins any possible intelligence. Women have no clue about the big picture, they only see what's right in front of them and react to it, they're reacting creatures.
I've never met an intelligent women and I never will because that is just not what they are, If you think you have, you've been manipulated to think so.
Edit : Imo you're confusing knowledgeable with intelligent.
pokersnob 5y ago
define intelligent, by your standards
Trgnv3 5y ago
So, just to get this straight, Sofia Kovalevskaya, Marie Curie, Grace Hopper, etc. were not intelligent? Would you say that you are more intelligent than them, or any other, for example, female science professors at MIT, Stanford, Harvard, etc?
pbar 5y ago
Yes that's in the Bible. It's toward the back somewhere.
Marcozy14 5y ago
I agree with your first statement. My choice in women has been particularly driven by their looks, which is nobody’s fault but my own. However, I currently sell lab equipment to universities, primarily dealing with grad students and faculty. When I initially took the job I was thinking to myself ‘damn I’m going to clean house’..... until I saw them. Lol. Yes they may challenge and/or inspire me, but damn finding one that I’m attracted to will take time my friend lol. (I only deal with chemistry/bio/biochem departments so they are particularly nerdy. Have to try other departments, I agree with you.
Trgnv3 5y ago
All those departments, especially bio/biochem are majority women, especially at the grad student/postdoc/young staff and faculty levels. They are as likely to be naturally attractive as any other group of women, though less likely to prioritize or heavily enhance their looks. Of course, women who are attractive and intelligent are going to have pretty high standards, and mostly look for men who are at least as educated/intelligent (and attractive, obviously) as them. There is also certainly a bias against non-academic "soul selling" work in academia, so doing things like volunteering, etc. helps if you aren't in academia yourself
cupshadow 5y ago
I really don't understand, getting to the point of picking up chicks with ease must be a really liberating experience.
All my life I spent pursuing many passions such as computer programming, art, music and sports. But woman was always a lagging factor because the lack of intimacy gets me deeply depressed. Like, real depression, not just episodes of sadness, to the point were you can't get nothing done and lose the will to even cry.
I googled for years to find anything remotely like TRP, jumping from website from website giving me that gave me nothing but the same shallow and useless advices, always deferring to woman. Trust me when I say this, beta life is hell and I crave so much this thing you have, to finally be sexually satisfied and have a clear mind to do my hobbies.
Wish you find some purpose in life because it seems that's what you really need right now. There is so much more you can do that have nothing to do with girls. Be business or be art, it only matters if you`re feeling it.
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You've seen a glimpse of the truth. Nothing has any inherent meaning and women won't gift you happiness.
This isn't a bad thing. Do what you want to do. Be accountable only to yourself.
traditional_goose 5y ago
I can't help but feel the same. I am 22 and one day I wish to raise two beautiful kids who have a motherly mother and we all live in a happy family BUT FOR HELL'S SAKE , I know that will never be possible given the way women have become post world war 2. I can't help but side with our collective anscestors from all continents who decided without even meeting each other that females need to be wives and mothers and the day you let them off the leash, society will become a hedonist's hell and mankind will have downfall. But i wouldn't want the same thing for my sister or daughter either. JESUS! I don't fucking know! I just need one goddamn woman who is worth my time and energy...THAT'S IT! Fuck me dead in the eye, devil you dickwasp!
GoingToMakeItBrahs 5y ago
Women are really meant to help you enjoy your plunder, not be your plunder.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Ehhhhh little of both haha.
Zahlix 5y ago
if you don't mind losing them, don't play the character. the worst thing that could happen is that they'll leave. the best thing could happen is that you find pleasure in being with a women because you are yourself and don't mind losing her.
Merica911 5y ago
That's why you don't make girls your main focal point in life. Find a hobby. Career. Network. Travel. You're health in fitness. And if find girls in the process, cool.
You're trying way to hard with them. I can tell by the emotion of this post.
javiercer20 5y ago
Imagine we send all the women living in this world to another planet for 6 months. Cut all the bullshit now and really analyze it for a moment, what are the REAL reasons men will start to really miss women??? SEXUAL DESIRE?? REPRODUCTION?? SOMEONE TO TAKE CARE OF THE BABIES??
If you were thinking women are here for emotional support and to make us happy, most likely you’ll be seen as a weak man and 99% you’ll be death by the 3rd day of this experiment.
You’re free to make your own conclusions.
SteveStJohn 5y ago
Congratulations, you have a mission. Now go live it.
Synthetic_Citizen 5y ago
To a certain extent i agree with you. I have a problem with the primary definition of TRP being sexual strategy for men, to teach men to build their lives around conquering pussy seems inadequate to me somehow.
In my observation most TRP veterans, after mastering their emotions and becoming efficient in understanding the opposite sex, end up coming to the same realization. The realization that pussy is quite overrated, that the things that generate value and happiness in a mans life comes from within, and that among the external things that generate value and hapiness in a mans life pussy is at the bottom of the list and is as abundant and easy to obtain as water.
Do you grasp the absurd beauty of the irony? That while the journey starts by measuring ones self worth with the level of success in the pursuit of sex, it matures with the devaluation of sex in favour of self worth. In the end, what is important is the pursuit of personal success and emotional independance, success with the opposite sex is simply a byproduct of this.
Even so, one achieves this state of realization during the pursuit of pussy, not before. Its an interesting paradox.
TheImpossible1 5y ago
That's because, when it comes down to it, women are pretty worthless. You get off and then what? That's it. They're not good for anything else.
They're not good friends, good people, fun to be with, interesting or any positive characteristic I can think of.
jonpe87 5y ago
Stop being a narcisist
This is life not disneyland
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daveed1297 5y ago
What it sounds like is that you're expecting to find fulfillment and discover life's purpose from fucking thots. You're looking in all the wrong places. You are responsible to bring meaning and value and satisfaction into your life for yourself. That's why we talk about furthering of your career, establishment of routines, getting a hobby as essential for YOU not for girls. Really need to take a step back and examine yourself and your expectations of others.
bongolese 5y ago
I feel for you brother.
I've got a good buddy as gay as 10 Mardi Gras parades in a row. When he looks at straight relationship dynamics he always says he lucked out to dodge that shit.
And it's a shit show out there a lot of the time.
The only advice I can give is if you are in a big city head out to some outlying towns to see the girls out there. These girls aren't unicorns. But they often are little more conservative in their values, live with their folks and still feel shame to put out too soon.
One of my plates drives 1hr to see me every time. Cute thing and very submissive. Offers a different dynamic.
Or if you're really checked out then cut them out of your life for a while. Make some plans for your novel or career. Book some training that would make it happen. Identify the books you need to read. And truck through them one day at a time.
Anger ain't gonna get you where you need to go. And I know that's cliche as fuck and the bottom of a depression feels like a hundred boulders crushing you at once. But. Find that one gap of fresh air. That one thread that'll spur you to the first step of action.
Good luck.
Trenned_out 5y ago
Lol funny you say that. I have a really good gay friend as well (conservative guy big Trump supporter actually, not flaming). And he says the same thing. Seeing his dating life it does seem much simpler. Whether it's easier hookups or more rational equal relationships with a lot less solipsism.
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
You fuck them for external validation.
Look inside instead. Find your internal motivation. This could save your soul.
DeGENZerate 5y ago
Exactly. Ride the Tiger is a great starting point
careofKnives 5y ago
You just need to try waaay less hard. You’re fucking girls just for the sake of fucking girls. You’re wasting your time, just like how it feels. People here that shit on MGTOW just don’t understand it because they are not in a favorable enough position to appreciate it. You can still GYOW and pump and dump, just seriously put in zero effort. It’s hard to get into the practice at first, I know. However, after all is said and done you’re going to find yourself with some serious amounts of free time. It’s hard to practice at first because like you said, you’ll find yourself in a position of having analyzed a situation and realizing that you could easily do x, y, and z actions and wind up fucking. Only problem is, x, y, and z is gonna take up all your precious time. You need to instead change tactics and only follow through during situations where instead of needing to do x, y, and z in order to fuck, you only need to do x, and x should NEVER exceed 15 minutes. I’m talking one conversation homie. If you can’t fuck from one conversation just leave and keep it moving with zero explanation. That 15 minute conversation is about to work and you only need one more minute of talking to this bitch to get it? Too bad, you have to go promote you’re horror story. That’s the way it has to be if you want change. Don’t let any of these scrubs on here tell you that you’re depressed or narcissistic. You already know what you are, you’re tired of wasting your time, don’t let anyone change your mind for you.
Oculument 5y ago
I don't know that all romance is a lie. Romance with a slut is. But if all women are sluts (AWALT) then the the conclusion follows that all romance is a lie.
But then wiser redpill guys remind us that AWALT is actually not literally true, its an operational guidance like "always treat a firearm as if it were loaded". So romance is not impossible after all.
RepostGhostCst2Cst 5y ago
You've ascended. These guys on here still devote all of their time to women whether they want to admit it or not. The reading, the gym, the game, the money. It's all dedicated to to chasing pussy.
Once you've gotten enough pussy and you're smart enough to realize they're pretty much all the same, you're going to feel nothing from them or for them. Hit me about a year and a half ago.
I'd be right in the middle of fucking a girl and just have an overwhelming sense of "why the fuck am I here?" and immediately lose all interest. It's a pretty depressing feeling to get after dealing with the depression of taking the red pill.
The way I've been dealing is cutting out that part of my life and devoting my time into remodeling my home and creating furniture from scratch. Even started going to church...
Slut pussy is just an unfulfilling cavernous void that won't give your life any meaning
Red_Pill_Dynamics 5y ago
And this is one of the reasons why MGTOW has started to gain so much traction.
Going your own way once you realize the redpill inside of the redpill.
I totally feel that, too...Having that "Why the fuck am I even here?" when fucking...shit's crazy, but the truth is always right there in plain sight.
Silent_Snek 5y ago
It’s nice to know that I’m not the only one.
Started happening recently and I couldn’t figure out why I just lost interest mid bang.
(My N count prior to TRP was somewhere >75. )
frooschnate 5y ago
Agree on this. The completely hedonistic approach to fucking anything that’s hot won’t make you happy or fulfilled.
I think you can have a different relationship with some girls, where of course red pill concepts will still apply and dictate the undergoing mind games she’s unconsciously playing. However, on the very rare occasion, these girls are more fulfilling and sometimes not as morally corrupt or degenerated, cases where you can have a lower guard and be a bit more human.
They are definitely not fucking unicorns, and AWALT; some just more than others.
IvyExcess 5y ago
Not unicorns, just donkeys with prettier ice cream cones smashed onto their foreheads
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Because society needs betas who are just smart enough to run the machines and not ask too many questions.
You have to do what's right for you. If a bee stings me, I don't get mad at the bee; it's just being a bee. That doesn't prevent me from enjoying the honey, and taking precautions against bee stings.
thrownaway2thewind 5y ago
Last week I fucked my ex that cheated on me a year ago, I thought somehow it would invigorate me and put me on top again, but it just felt like I was fucking a whore and I shouldve left money on the dresser afterwards. A girl that, back when I was blue pilled I would've done everything for. I had to get wasted to even go through with it.
Take all the honey you need bruh, but I just need a break from this.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Nobody is stopping you. As I said, you have to do what's right for you.
jackandjill22 5y ago
The problem here is he's placing too many expectations on the interactions. Bro, if she cheated on you it's because she's most likely loose, & then you're surprised when she does the same behavior with you that she exhibited in a relationship? Dude, insanity is repeating something over & over & expecting a different result. Why would you assume she was anything different than a low-quality partner. It's not that complicated Realpolitik see things are they are & not as you want them to be. People are people & the default state of society is just that. Don't get bummed just accept it.
theomniscience24 5y ago
I come from a developing country, where there still are traditional women who are mostly tied down by tradition and are more faithful in general. I grew up wanting to get out of this community because i thought it was toxic in how it repressed sexuality, but now I’m glad that those traditions were upheld, and that there still are unicorns and I’m in a 3 year relationships with one of them. I initially had a problem with her being religious, but now I see that as a blessing. Anyways, my point is, that there will always be women in traditional communities maybe or other ethnic groups that could be different to you, but may posses better moral values in terms of respecting men, family, and loyalty. I’m a lurker here so be gentle on me.
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CptFizz 5y ago
Reminder that MGTOW is defeatism. Don't hate women, hate the people who turned them that way.
TheGweatandTewwible 5y ago
I getchu, dude. Even with the girls that seem "worth it" I still ask myself what the point is if the relationship's inevitably going to end with her branch-swinging. I try be positive and not nihilistic but damn it's hard sometimes. At the end of the day, it's something we have to come to terms with.
BlindingTwilight 5y ago
We all go through this once we master the ability to get laid with hotties. The man who lives by a stream does not crave water the way a man in the desert does. You are either fortunate enough to be born with genes which make you attractive to women, or you did the hard work. Either way you have discovered a red pill inside the red pill, and that is a good thing. Women are the by product of a life lived well and they should not be a life goal. Now get on with building your power and when you feel like fucking, fuck.
RevolutionaryPea7 5y ago
That's an excellent way to put it.
joeyshelby 5y ago
that is real shit. “women are the by product of a life lived well” is the truth.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
For me, one of the things I realised from Red Pill, is that women are NOT the ultimate source of happiness, nor should they be your ultimate goal.
Blue Pill teaches us that our ultimate mission is women. Red Pill says we are responsible for our happiness. That is one of the 'points' of all this.
Your goals, those things you're mentioning, they should be your number one. You're venturing off track by following pussy after pussy, and leaving those things as a second. Prioritize. Balance. Keep achieving your goals, that will bring more fulfillment, then pussy is just something fun on the side.
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TacticalPolonium 5y ago
I'm glad I learned this early.
redbearsociety 5y ago
Dude. You make life what you want it to be. If you choose to judge everything in your life as shit, then everything in your life will be shit. Not objectively, just for you. You are clearly deep in the anger phase, angry as fuck at women and you probably don't even know why you are angry/where it comes from. So yeah, no shit you can't be bothered with them. But know it's a phase. This is coming from someone that went through the whole TRP thing over 4 years ago, and now I love women for all their flaws and have a great time with them. Life is what you make it. Despite women now perhaps being different to women 100 years ago, well so fucking what. Get over it or die alone.
Also a lot of what you are saying reeks of the butthurt shit spouted by the average guy in this sub. Most of the advice here comes from guys that barely get laid, then change their appearance slightly and suddenly call it the optimal thing. When in fact all they are doing is playing some character and shaming themselves more, leading to resentment of women later on. The resentment is a reaction to the shame of not feeling good enough for women just being yourself. Be aware of this. It's not a place of power to be there, it's a place of absolute weakness and survival instincts.
Anyone with proper experience with women and a high laycount can tell you a very different story to what is portrayed in this subreddit which has just turned into a circlejerk in the last few years. Be aware of that.
By all means write off women for a while and focus on what you care about, but it's worth working through the anger you have. Accept women for all their flaws and you might finally be able to accept yourself and not feel like a piece of shit anymore.
TRP8myfeels 5y ago
You shouldn't settle for shit that doesn't work exceptionally well for you, period.
krym33 5y ago
Have kids. Gotta let your genes walk away someday.
You will get emotions from this, and you will force yourself to rise up a notch again.
The thing that everyone forgets here is: we are not here just to fuck some chicks, we are here to be the fucking gods of our species (this is a way to put it). One life is not enough to complete our objectives, if you can complete it till you die, your objective is way to small, think bigger.
Fucking bitches left and right is not hard, we all know (if you go out asking to fuck, every 20 or 30 girls, you will get one) that.
Even after the redpill getting married and having kids didn't made me a beta or take the bluepill, actually pushed me further, because now I get to teach someone the right way and need to workout more to show them that it is possible to do what the hell they want.
The romance is still there, but you need to develop the feeling of love, not adoration, love. But remember you protect and love them, not the other way around.
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Beegoop 5y ago
Success and Happiness have always come before women (along with many other things), and always will to any man worth his own time.
For the rest of your life, and possibly for the foreseeable future (thanks to social media and a , it will be like this. It should be like this. This is what it's like realizing that your life doesn't revolve around women in the slightest, these bitches. DO. NOT. MATTER. And that's okay, you don't have to hate them for it. You're in the anger phase. You've realized they aren't anywhere near close to the image you've been fed.
You have goals? Wants? Dreams? Go out and get them, no bitch is going to make them come true. Women never have and never will give you the happiness you seek; AWALT.
They don't owe you anything, it's how they are. Focus on yourself always, don't rely on them to make you feel a certain way. That's what your bros are for.
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LordMarkStark 5y ago
My opinion is you don't need Monk mode or anything. You just need to find something that interests you and maybe one day take a chick with you to do it or some shit.
You're needlessly seeking fulfilment in these women, and them in you. Lead your life man, no pussy it's just flesh is going to fulfil you. It's just sex. Stop being so narcissistic in all this and live and experience with bitches again - a little. A little goes a long way.
You're almost certainly depressed. Find another hobby, so have two hobbies, or maybe it's something else getting you down.
My guess is that thing is you're being fake and gamey. You're holding back or suppressing things. Take your most submissive girl, the most docile one and open up for real with the bitch. It's just the modern world of social media and all that, playing for ourselves. Do your work as you say but maybe for one time be real with one of these girls.
But you also need a break too. You can't keep going on like this. Been there done that, it's not challenging. But don't drop out, find someone you actually like. Don't be a machine. You're probably lonely from zero real connection.
You could be an addict of sex too. Try to see colour again because you're wasting some good years on this sex bullshit. Whatever it is I'm sure none of us can solve it except to say in love and sex it's full of pain and here you are seeking endless pleasure. .
Your biggest mistake. Women are hassle. You've got to change what it's all about. And talk to a doctor about it or professional for at least some perspective. You're not happy doing what you're doing so you need to change it up and date people you actually like and them you. Maybe you feel like a fraud or you're secretly letting people down. Maybe it's a phase, but you need to change it up. Take a break, try new things. Maybe you feel obligated to your current lifestyle as the lesser of two evils. Maybe you feel a little trapped.
Either way your life lacks meaning and you're probably unhappy these girls don't think enough of you even though you're fucking.
You've got to make life about other things. This crap about your work and book etc is just an excuse.. It's the bitches. You've had your fill and it's time to change things up, at least for a while. If you start giving a stuff about others a little bit for real they'll probably reciprocate, you sound like a husk atm. You do need to recharge.
So taking a break is exactly what you need to do. So what the novelty and excitement, the thrill wore off. So make it about other things. Even if that's taking a break from chicks.
The first realization people come to is they're too nice or stupid. The second all women are the same and it's their own attitude that decides, meaning less effort and engagement, going through the motions... Now you have perspective and choice you can use it to be far more constructive. Before you were angry and lost and subbed in thrill to replace your basic needs. You become detached and trapped in the stage because you fear losing your competency.... Now without thrill you have an existential crisis. Be constructive and philosophical with it. Don't destroy, leap to the next level and find happiness for real.
You may pull back from women but when you engage them again no you won't be a simp but you will do so with more authenticity, enlightenment and as a man you need to feel useful so by expanding your range at least with some of them, maybe being more empathetic, you will be needed in deeper ways. This could help heal any childhood wounds from parenting, etc. But you will grow a new shell so to speak, you're fragile right now but you'll return to strength.
Source: I'm a natural and really smart. And I only pursue women from strength. They're one part of the world. The best thing about them is between their legs, and let's be honest, you only get to see that for short durations of time. You need more balance but first break the chain. Any addiction you need to cease for perspective even just a little bit. I don't know what regrets you have but you need to resolve them and heed the above advice. You'll always have pussy just like me and others but you MUST mitigate the cost. Women wear you down. And chicks can be for more than sex. But I was once around so many chicks/interaction and living arrangements I began to feel like a chick almost, needed male company so I didn't lose my mind. So you should definitely hang out with your Bros more often and avoid seeing a woman that night.
Then you probably feel some shame from doing all this investment of time and hard work for nothing, if you're not completely in the sociopath side in this in how you act (sex at all costs) then you will get blowback on your own actions..., and it's tied into your phyche. You've got to make life about more. Because this is not who you really are. You need a break, better balance and to really just get over your feelings of shame and loss by building something new. It may be familiar but whatever it is it needs to be different or you'll just stay in your rut.
You're grieving too I bet for the vision of who you thought you'd be or how things would be. So now you're angry and sad, soon you will come to accept it, then you can move forward realizing it's not all so bad, that you still have time and options and a new day/change/way. You'll have a healthier ego to boot, and maybe you won't pass up great chances at more with better quality of women when it happens. One side of you has been really immature and you've been holding back. From here on out you will be able to align with greater clarity and sense of purpose. Be constructive. The realization sucks. But it's only up from here.
You can't get back your jizz from these hoes but you can learn to more healthierly revere yourself and them for what they are. But you need to do other things in the meantime. Revere life. Not the pussy lol. Seriously. Stop fucking these vampyres and start loving life. Let them come to you just a little more. Women only care about themselves. I don't blame them and if you care about yourself you'll start living a more full life. Yeah then the bloodsuckers come back BUT you'll be able to let them in and out in accordance to a more healthier balanced life and how much you actually like them.
Of course being depressed you probably overrated your ability and played down your weakness and regrets. But follow what I said and others because what you're doing is not working. Women will soon be eating you alive. You won't be happy/you're not happy because you live for them and their snatch. You're a slave to it in some regards.
There's no other way to stop being weak, mate. You need to grow your inner child and find more mature girls, etc. You'll also get better treatment. But ffs don't turn into a white knight. It is what it is, get new terms of engagement.
NASCARnormie 5y ago
existential crisis 101. You're not the first to suffer and won't be the last either.
Zech4riah 5y ago
That's what happens when you keep going for girls you don't exactly desire possibly to protect your ego from rejections of high quality girls.
I know you are doing this because no one who picks up only 9s and 10s says "I never had trouble with picking up chicks". Every fucking dude here had troubles picking up high quality girls at some point and 99,5% still have.
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