I don't want to link to the original post as that would be brigading, but there's a trending post on the financial independence subreddit about a self-made millionaire who retired at 26. Given the subject matter, I was interested and checked it out. It starts out with a little history about wanting to be an entrepreneur, sounds about right, then there's a line about "I would always have to lie about my age and wear ugly business suits so I wouldn't get sexualized at work too" and I started to get a bit suspicious...why is this successful entrepreneur whining about something so trivial?
Sure enough, shortly afterward she reveals that she ended up just becoming a camwhore. So inspiring, she failed at business so she got naked and let guys jerk off to her for money instead! At lease she doesn't need to worry about being sexualized though, right?
Anyway, I kept reading the rant because I realized that I had jerked it to her a couple times before and wondered if she was going to drop some interesting tidbits about investing or something. She didn't, she just whined about how hard it is being a rich girl, but she did drop a few lines that just screamed "redpill" to me so I wanted to share.
Since I had it all by then, at least monetarily I decided to date someone that made considerably less than me. In fact because of my busy work schedule it was impractical to date someone that had a 9-5 job since I was working nights and sleeping days. So me and my ex partner decided I would support the family financially and he would take care of the other things like daily errands leaving him unemployed.
Golly, dating someone who makes less than you, that sounds like a real nightmare. It's amazing she was willing to make such a sacrifice!
I felt so lonely in that relationship and sometimes I would daydream of my partner taking charge and being more assertive but it never happened. I felt like I desperately wanted to just be a dumb housewife, with no responsibilities and let someone else worry about how to manage money, retirement funds, real estate purchases. But as time went on I realised we weren't really a team, he would just do mundane things like shopping and show resentment and less and less appreciation towards me as every day went by. I successfully managed to raise a manchild and felt like I was his mother, despite him being 15 years older than me.
Hm, woman who achieves the feminist dream of being a self-made woman just wants a man to take charge and be assertive so she can be a dumb housewife. Truly shocking to anyone outside this sub.
She goes on for a while afterward to rant about how hard life is being a rich single mother, she does seem to have some self-awareness:
Because I knew my career as a camgirl would be short, although going on 7 years is way more that I imagined I could last in the industry and still be relevant, it is still a very short career compared to most.
But then right back to delusion:
Little does society know that to be a top camgirl you need to have the skills of a successful business owner, the discipline of a high caliber athlete and the creativity of a TV producer.
It really is a tough career to get naked on a webcam, mad respect here. Interesting to the red pills from a whore's perspective.
RPmatrix 5y ago
TRUE camgirl 'story' ... and Read the last paragraph! This chick is going to hit that wall Hard!
A few years back, I came across this camgirl here on reddit and asked her a few 'real' questions in a post ... her 'reply' was to try and insult me and she banned me from "her sub"! lmao! hehe, as if IGAF, she's just one of millions
but another redditor (who's abviously a Big fan of hers -- and she was a HB10 back when she was 18-20, but she's not even 23 now and shit's starting to 'fall apart' BUT she apparently loaded!) read my post and I got this pm from "him(?) which I thought I'd share with you all
Here's the pm I got and he's mostly nailed it
It's actually sad because her face is arguably her best feature. Her body has some flaws, but it's not that bad.
HUH???
Yeah, doing MILF pron
HAHA! what a fucking classic thought!
Not far from the truth
RPmatrix 5y ago
$1 million in seven years? Is that 'after expenses'?
I call Bullshit. Do the math
That's a minimum of $170k a year, and even at 10 hrs per day 7 days a week (70hrs) that's averaging over $60 per hour!
Make it 40hrs per week (as she 'suggests' i.e. 9-5 at night = 8hrs) and it's $680 per day or an average of $80 p/h! She must get penalty rates for those hours!
Regardless, I don't believe it ... her 'token bell' would be ringing so much you wouldn't be able to hear her (fake) moans!
as they say, "beauty fades, stupidity is forever"
here's a photo of the author of the article
Looks about right, cliches anyone?
Wholesomeloaf 5y ago
She's absolutely reaching and delusional to think being a cam whore needs as broad and high of a skill-set as the 3 examples she's used. No start up cost + 80 hours a week, no elite level training regime daily for 10-15 years etc. But just like everything else in the world, to be top 1% or 0.1% in something takes more time and effort than some people here give credit for. Athletes earn millions because they're better than everyone else in the world - and it takes more than being born with it to be better than everyone else.
Two_kids_in_a_coat 5y ago
Shit, I got bored and stopped reading once she said she was camming. Couldn’t understand why she was on financial independence. Now it makes sense, she’s looking for validation at being such a “smart, hardworking, go getting woman” because she’s just your typical miserable slut.
OfficerWade 5y ago
She’s transitioned from slut to available house wife. Apparently, it’s like coming out of the closet for women by the way she describes that sense of disease and loneliness. Guys who make this transition don’t typically see this stuff until they’re 30-35 trying to figure why their house wife is a whore but they’ve been doing nothing to bring emotional tension.
It takes a real man to offer that emotional tension in the house, that women and children thrive off. It’s what keeps you coming back. It makes the game fun.
VickVaseline 5y ago
The post on the financial independence subreddit has been deleted, but it can be found here:
http://archive.is/BYAVm
pm_me_tangibles 5y ago
She made millions camwhoring? How many comp-illit betas are there??
CaptainFajita 5y ago
Kind of what I thought. Also, there's nothing stopping her from giving it all away and becoming a "dumb housewife," as she put it. She's still attention seeking, if her story is, in fact, true.
pacjax 5y ago
OP is literally and admittedly one of them (you can tell by how beta this post is)
pm_me_tangibles 5y ago
he's on the path to learning
RightHandWolf 5y ago
I'll just leave this blast from the past right here . . .
https://youtu.be/c91XUyg9iWM
RisingTideXIII 5y ago
A Whore is a whore is a whore is a whore. I dont get mad at dogs for barking.
gerwig 5y ago
Is it surprising that a woman who camwhores deep down just wants a lazy life where she does nothing and all decisions are made for her? Camming/twitch streaming are the ultimate lazy jobs.
Varsel 5y ago
What is surprising is that despite their best efforts at brainwashing, starting at like preschool and going on through college, the feminazis indoctrination occasionally fails, a few bitches somehow slip their hook, and get a glimpse past The Narrative.
VeryTalentedCheff 5y ago
Im absolutely jelous of twitch streamers who are actually making a living out of it.
RevolutionaryPea7 5y ago
I'm not. I enjoy the struggle. Can't have light without dark.
TheGillos 5y ago
If that's their only job won't they have a hard time reentering the work force down the road?
VeryTalentedCheff 5y ago
Some of them made millions between twitch, YouTube, sponsorships and selling their merchandise. If they invest intelligently and use their name to branch into other online entertainment stuff they can live a really comfortable life without much effort. This is the entertainment for millenials.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
But that's what ? 0.1% of them ?
VeryTalentedCheff 5y ago
Why would I be jelous of the 90% that are basically public losers?
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Just trying to say that the top 0.1% are not necesssarily doing the same as the bottom 90%. Likely there quite some work and skill involved in there. 1 million dollars in view is something like 1 billion view. You don't get that randomly by being lucky. Then you remove all the taxes.
It is like saying you become chief surgeon and get shares of the clinic without effort or you get to become Olympic champion without effort.
It is simply not an acurate view of their situation.
_TheRP 5y ago
Yeah I read that thread. A few takeaways:
First - She talks about her bank account being frozen when wiring money because she doesn't look old enough to have that kind of money, and then hiring the same lawyer as the CEO of the bank. Either she's dealing with some mom&pop local bank, or she's hilariously full of shit. That read like a revenge fantasy. Big banks don't pay a whole lot of attention to you until you're well into the 8 figure range from a net worth standpoint. 7 figure millionaires are just not muscle movers when you start to consider the cash small business or high net worth individuals move around.
Second - She says she has $10,000 a month in passive income. While that's a nice little income stream, we're currently enjoying the longest run of economic growth in the history of the United States. I highly doubt that is a sustainable number in the inevitable recession, and living on $4k a month is fucking brutal. She's not financially independent, she likely doesn't even understand what that actually means. She's one car accident and real estate downturn away from fucked.
She's got some discipline to get to where she is, but this girl really needs to get over herself. She's not so wildly successful that there aren't men all over that are more successful than she is. Her problem is those men don't want to date a sex worker.
She's trash with cash in the bank.
SeasonedRP 5y ago
I didn't read it but your comment is interesting. Banks hire large corporate law firms, the kind of firms that normally don't represent individuals on minor issues because it doesn't generate large fees. They have overhead to cover. Sounds to me like she's full of shit.
_TheRP 5y ago
Yep, that's what I was alluding to. They also have corporate attorneys like any large business. Even the relatively small, regional bank (~$8B) I use for my company has their own internal legal service.
She'd have to be dealing with some tiny backwoods operation for the bank CEO to have an attorney that represented individuals.
Christ, my business only does 8 figures in revenue and I have 3 different law firms I deal with depending on the topic.
SeasonedRP 5y ago
Good point- I failed to mention that. Companies of any size have in-house attorneys who handle things as well outside firms to handle larger litigation or deals. She's full of it. It's one of those rags to riches revenge stories that sounds good but falls apart upon examination by anyone who knows the subject.
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excaliboor 5y ago
What kinds of girls do you date? How do you screen them?
_TheRP 5y ago
When I say "date" - I mean exclusively. Should have probably said commit.
I haven't had an exclusive relationship in years. I don't see a need for it, I just do the usual plate thing. That said, if I was going to enter into an exclusive relationship any type of sex work would be an obvious automatic disqualifier.
ChrimsonChin988 5y ago
> She says she has $10,000 a month in passive income. While that's a nice little income stream
Lol, where were you at 26 probably laying in bed with your thumb up your ass. You can talk smack all you want but 99.99% odds you didn't have a 10k passive income at 26.
'what if the inevitable recession takes place blah blah' what if the U.S. is declared bankrupt, what if the dollar becomes worthless, what if we're hit by a giant meteorite, what if what if. We can talk all day about what ifs but the fact of the matter is that when an inevitable recession hits with a 10k passive income at 26 you'll still be better off than 99.99% of your peers and 99% of U.S. citizens in general.
Let's say that yes the recession happens and yes her passive income goes down to 4k a month. it's passive income, she still has the ability to go back to camwhoring to another fucking job. (also investing in real estate, especially in big cities pretty much guarantees you a constant cash flow) Also, 4k is plenty when you live frugally and not in an expensive area.
I agree with your first point but your second point just makes you seem like an envious cocksucker
_TheRP 5y ago
I'm a 29 year old multi millionaire. I own and run a company that operates all over the world, which I founded at 25. I am also a finance expert, that's what I studied and I worked in corporate finance prior to starting my company. I'm not really envious of anyone anymore.
I am absolutely qualified to make all of the observations in my post, and I stand by everything I said.
Economic downturns kill passive income streams. Stock returns turn negative, real estate loses value, and unless she's smart enough to hold low risk debt as a primary investment she's going to get whacked. There is no way she is making $10,000 per month in that fashion, because she'd need ~$4M in invested assets for that to be the case.
I'm guessing her current success is a function of frugal living and operating in an extremely beneficial economic climate. She made $100/hr or whatever as a cam girl, invested a large portion of it over 7 years, and the returns have gotten her to the $2M mark. That makes sense mathematically. What doesn't make sense is her thinking those returns will continue, because they won't.
Like I said, she's got some discipline to get where she is and if she keeps it up she'll get where she's trying to go, but she's not there yet. The timer is ticking on her ability to make money in her chosen profession, so she's working against that.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
If she was saying to you that your business would soon collapse and you'd soon make only tiny amount of money, this would be the perfect mirror to you.
Reality is that if she really doing that well today, she is like you far abore average so there no reason this would not continue. And the crisis isn't necessarily comming in instanly, even more in the sex sector. Things like sex, food or alcool people continue to buy.
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From all I know she lied, and I don't trust the passive revenue to be 2 millions in the bank, it doesn't add up, it is more likely the revenue from her past porn videos and I fully agree that this may not make money for ever. But on the opposite, she can continue to grow it too, and double or triple that.
The thing is, who care? You seem to think you need to have multi million in the bank to be worth anything. Doesn't make sence.
She has hypergamy and her field of work isn't the best, all granted, but why do you have to go against her while you are even more successful ?
_TheRP 5y ago
Except this presupposes I'd claimed financial independence. I haven't, I am entirely reliant on my business and it is still very reliant on me. The next business goal is to change that, in both directions.
Which I've consistently acknowledged.
ChrimsonChin988 5y ago
Why don't you address my point though?
Let's say all your numbers check out, I agree they sound decent. Then let's also assume she lives in a paid off medium sized apartment (also she said she lives frugally), the economy goes to shit, she only makes 4k now passive, she can go back to camwhoring and make 3k extra so 7k. I don't see a fucking problem here. 99% of people will be in tougher shit than she will be. So back to my point;
I was completely right when I said she's still better off than the big majority of people money-wise. Yes you can stand by everything you said because 'technically' it's correct. But creating these little what if scenarios and arguing about them is so fucking useless.
Like what are you doing all day besides running a multi million dollar business, telling 99% of people they're just one car accident or economic downturn away from being completely fucked?
Yes you're technically right but I'd also be technically right to tell everyone living in the U.S. to buy a house on another continent because what if Yellowstone erupts tomorrow. Can you see how fucking pointless things get when we say what if what if?
_TheRP 5y ago
This saves me a lot of typing.
The reason I'm getting on her about her net worth is where she posted to begin with - in a sub dedicated to financial independence and early retirement. She's got neither, but she is stroking her ego like she's climbed Everest.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
The article you show doesn't make sence. The main reason to live in theses expensive cities is to actually find a job and work.
So they can just buy a nice house/flat somewhere not so expensive and more pleasant to live. They can choose the right public school for their child that perform well, no need to save huge amount for no better education. Plus you'll have time to help your child study and grow by yourself.
You don't need child care or expensive food if you don't work, you have ample time to manage that yourself. And if the home is paid for there no point to pay for mortage.
You can easily divide the monthly expense by 2 and still live very well, meaning you can make do with half money in the bank.
So basically 2.5 million for living well without working.
buttgoogler 5y ago
Fucking hilarious and tragic at the same time.
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trpblacklime 5y ago
I can agree that you need some degree business sense, skill, and self awareness to maximize profits on selling your sex. But she's reeeeeeaaaaching with those comparisons big time.
nross368 5y ago
What's tragic is that you think being a camwhore is as simple as showing up naked and they just shower you with money. It's a business just like any other. It's moronic to think you don't need those traits to be competing with all the other girls on the web. She's not even embellishing. I run a camwhore business on the side and just like every other business it requires discipline, dedication, and creativity. You're not really thinking about what it takes to compete in the porn business. It takes a lot. I'll let you sit with that. Now realize that your lack of critical thinking is not so much a lack but an excuse to hate on women for being women. This is incel logic disguised as redpill wisdom.
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strayaura 5y ago
What's funny is if she actually had those skilla she'd have no problem finding a well paying job. But at the end of the day, its just a delusion that she has.
buttgoogler 5y ago
Well, apparently getting undressed and shoving dildos up your ass while beta faggots worship you by sending you money takes as much willpower and dedication as building your business, so, who are we to judge.
Gaboyski_ 5y ago
E-thot "gamers" don't even have to take their clothes off livestream to get orbiter cash.
SociopathicCamper 5y ago
It’s amazing how many utterly skill-less and hollow girls there are that manage to delude themselves into thinking they’re God’s great gift to the world.
omega_dawg93 5y ago
young, tight vagina + natural, organic, un-checked solipism + thirsty orbiters = delusional women.
they really believe they're the center of the universe based on their over-inflated egos.
then, that lovely WALL appears... the phone calls decrease dramatically, gravity grabs those tits & ass, and then... THEN, they worry about developing a personality, welcoming demeanor, unselfish attitude.
from 18 to about 28, women have no clue how much of a fucking headache they can be.
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someonesopinion6969 5y ago
I think that's generally the age that men want to fuck girls, there's a reason you're getting a headache, they don't want to deal with an old moany bastard, they just want to get fucked and have fun
omega_dawg93 5y ago
women being a 'headache' doesn't mean i have a headache.
i don't engage in teenage personal shit; so take your attempts to make this thread about me won't work.
warlordchad 5y ago
So, I was actually plating a girl who did this--for her part she was actually pretty cool--but this is literally the only job she's ever had, and one time she makes this remark about I'm so privileged because I'm a white dude... and I'm like, I don't think you understand what privilege is.
Privilege is doing literally nothing (she never worked out)--other than showing up and putting in the time--to make thousands of dollars in few days time because you were born hot. Like, this chick didn't DO anything to be able to have her job. The same is true of any chick who's a stripper or prostitute or whatever.
Like, fine, you do you--if I could make that kind of money purely by taking off my clothes I might consider it. But don't sit there and tell me that as a young, beautiful woman, you don't have tremendous privilege, because you sure as fuck do.
Gaboyski_ 5y ago
Women only see the world in reference to the top 20% of men. They whine about all those CEOs being males, but conveniently ignore that many men are also poor and/or homeless.
Andgelyo 5y ago
Let me guess, the chick was either asian or black
organicfluxx 5y ago
Why? White women are above that?
Andgelyo 5y ago
Well considering OP said he was white, I’m assuming the girl he’s talking to was non-white and said he had “privilege”
omega_dawg93 5y ago
they have privilege bc men give it to them.
but they don't realize that father time is undefeated... and they will lose the looks eventually.
even if they don't, younger hotter women may still market themselves better. after 28, it's a wrap for most... just based on the number itself.
when that's all they have, the competition is fierce.
Cheddar_Curtain 5y ago
I see this in play at my workplace, which is male heavy, like 90/10. All of the cute women 20-30 yrs old have about six dudes hanging on them. 4/6 get batted away like ping pong balls and the two alpha wolves try to psychologically out game each other. The women eat it up even though some of them are 7/10 and once they hit the wall 5/10.
My boss is female middle age and was once really hot. The older she gets the more bitter. Her power is waning and she knows it. She lashes out at all the young cute female employees because wall hitting power tripping. Sad really, but if you understand psycho-sexual dynamics not unexpected.
omega_dawg93 5y ago
women btw 18-28 with huge egos are usually the hardest to fall when father time busts thru the door like the kool-aid man.
they usually don't develop any personality beyond social media based stuff... and have zero conversation skills outside of how they look.
it's all about attention. they get mad at both men and younger women when the attention they used to get is taken away by the young ladies.
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EdmondDantes777 5y ago
it's absolutely true though. There are many beautiful colombian cam hos naked on those sits 9+ hours a day who make jack shit. And there are many 6-7/10s that make ABSOLUTE BANK because they know how to sell themselves and they found their niche and are good at business.
eccentricrealist 5y ago
Agreed. Some girls know how to market themselves so well that they can sell used panties and "premium" videos and photosets, private snapchat etc. I wouldn't say it's rocket science but it's more proactive than just being there.
buttgoogler 5y ago
Please tell me you're not being serious. If you actually think you need "to have the skills of a successful business owner, the discipline of a high caliber athlete and the creativity of a TV producer" to be a camwhore -- you're dumb, no offense.
There's a huge difference between aforementioned traits and a simple built-in teasing skill of every hoe out there.
nross368 5y ago
read my comment above and rethink your poorly thought out stance. It's using something inherit: beauty, and monetizing it. It doesn't make it easier. It's just something your born with trying to make money from vs building something from scratch. Yes it's easier but not by much.
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You know whats better business: teaching pick up to sex starved men.... or selling *real* masculinity to men without an internal compass... looking at you 21 convention.
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source: I manage a camwhore business
kemchik 5y ago
dudeeeeee. ...You are not supposed to say that. I think your comment will be deleted soon.
buttgoogler 5y ago
Running a camwhore business for sure makes your point more competent, no irony here, but I'm not even gonna bother disputing it if you actually think that "to be a top camgirl you need to have the skills of a successful business owner, the discipline of a high caliber athlete and the creativity of a TV producer".
Especially if you have ever been a pro athlete / owned a business and know the struggles it takes to even remotely reach the very top, I simply don't get how camwhoring is anywhere close to it. Tell Michael Phelps or Dan Pena that MissAlice hustled as hard.
nross368 5y ago
You won't dispute it because you don't know what your talking about. You just reiterated your points above like a parrot. Do we take away the hard work smart people do just because they where born smart? How about naturally athletic people. Do you take away credit away because their DNA was better than most people? How about people 6ft do we shit on them because they where 6ft tall?
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Like i said this is incel logic disguised as *redpill* wisdom... You're a moron if you can't see why you would need those skills. But need I ask what you've been the top at anywhere in your life? Or are you preaching from the bottom trying to discredit people at the top? Because your language is classic slave Moriarty. I'm all for calling women stupid and vapid cunts when they are. But you're just using a piss poor example to highlight the inferiority of women. You're trying to shit on someone thats made millions. Why not mention how easy women are manipulated? Or how unstable and illogical they are? Why not use any other fucking example that would make your point look good instead of incel vomit?
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As i said before you know nothing of the business. If you think you can just flip on a camera (by yourself) and start making millions then you've never done anything by yourself before. If it was that easy every girl will be balling. But their not. And here you are shitting on one that just so happen to be one of the few that made millions....
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If you can't see why you're wrong after this reply just don't bother with a response.
RPmatrix 5y ago
dude, your post is Full of ad hominem invective
still an the "anger phase" are we?
and YOU believe it! .... I guess you'd know tho, say "how much do you spend on Camgirls every day?
Coz it's guys like you who are making those bells ring, not men like me
nross368 5y ago
Wow you're a special breed of stupid. You evidently didn't read my comments.
RPmatrix 5y ago
pal, half this thread opposed your "opinion"
defo a "special kind of stupid"
read my other post ITT and LEARN something
nross368 5y ago
Pal restating what I just said like a parrot doesn't help your point
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patricklim92 5y ago
Link to original post please.
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Dingdangdoodle21 5y ago
What’s the point of this post? Doesn’t contribute much of value.
(Inb4 neither does this comment)
FAX_ME_UR_GUNT 5y ago
Neither does your inb4, buddy! /s
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ghost_sk8er 5y ago
On the confession sub there was a post about this prostitute who confessed that she was one. I remember telling her, opening your holes for money isn’t work. She proceeded to argue that, it’s a lot of work actually and how I should try to do what she did and come back and say sex work isn’t real work. Pathetic delusional whore.
Edit: Why the downvotes? I thought the principle of TRP was the cold hard truth?
Edit 2: lmao y’all mofos are something else. What happened to this sub man did the quarantine castrate you guys or what?
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Work doesn't matter. You have needs and money help then getting fullilled. You need a stream of money income. Could be whatever. The least effort you have to make to get that, the best it is.
It is stupid to value hard work, aka being dumb enough to have to work a lot to live. I actually "work" a lot by many people standard but that's not really "work" to me as it provide me with lot of satisfaction. I like the intellectual challenge and building software.
The Camwhore is among the best sex related work because there no risk of illness, there no actual sex with strangers you don't like and countrary to traditionnal sex, it is a business that can scale. Like any movie the additional sell cost you nothing, yet it provide income. It is actually really smart.
Of course this doesn't means that I'd like to spend my life with a camwhore, but one has to see things for what they are.
Camp_KillYourself 5y ago
I have no idea why ur downvoted.
We must have a lot of feminist influencers join and try to sway opinion. That is a conspiracy theory but I think that is the case here.
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Lmao shut up you fucking cuck. Laying on a bed and taking dicks is not a difficult job in any way whatsoever. Especially not for $300-400 an hour.
TheRedPike 5y ago
You are lucky I’m mobile.
No fucking concern trolling. It polluted the whole thread and turns t into a dick waving contest. Argue the points with points or shut the fuck up.
ghost_sk8er 5y ago
Get the fuck out of here white knight. It’s the truth. She’s a delusional whore.
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kellykebab 5y ago
Someone in TRP defending a prostitute's work ethic. What have we come to?
Sex work is "hard" because of the emotional toll it takes on your psyche (and often your body). It probably requires a lot of acting as well. It is not hard in the way a genuinely creative or intellectual job is hard, because there are very few novel, technical problems to solve. You just spread your legs and hope not to get roughed up. That's not "hard," it's easy. It's just really unpleasant (for some). Willingly pursuing a career that is that unpleasant just for the dollars, is ultimately a sad way to live.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Sad, maybe, agree. But then how one guy that has a pleasant career can think he is more "working". If something is pleasant is it really work ? I mean this whole discussion doesn't make sense.
Again one shall find the best way to make money.
kellykebab 5y ago
Take an English class, dude.
Is this a serious question? Yes, obviously holding a job that you like is "work." It actually doesn't really matter what you call it though, it is obviously far better to have a career that is fulfilling than one that is not. And it's also obviously far better to have a career that exercises your brain (which whoring does not) and doesn't completely destroy your soul or how you relate to other people (which whoring does).
This is about as empty and meaningless a statement as they come.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
It isn't like anyway anybody should care while doing THEIR job about what YOU think their job should be and if from your point of view it is fullfilling or not.
You'll never guess but there billion peoples on earth that have jobs that doesn't require much brain and destroy them on many aspects AND they don't make much money neither. Most are not sex worker.
So what ?
kellykebab 5y ago
Seriously, take an English class so your tantrums actually make sense.
Useeikill 5y ago
I do agree with @conscientiousful that being a whore really does qualify as work, however perhaps what the parent comment meant that it does not equate to the difficulty of brainstorming a viable startup, working double jobs as often happens in the America nation or doing so called "man" work where one has to really exert themselves physically or put themselves in danger. Aside from stds and a client going bonkers, whores truly do face none of those risks and even the average whore can make in an hour what a highly educated dentist makes.... and all of this by just spreading her legs and not really be engaged.
_TheRP 5y ago
It's a sole proprietorship like any other, it just pays well because women are functionally selling their social value along with their time. These girls give up a lot, some realize it and some don't. It doesn't appear she has a grasp of it, which is why she's so confused about how fucked up her social and dating life is.
conscientiousful 5y ago
Of course not. I own a startup too. Of course she can't equate to entrepreneurs. That's not what I meant. The parent comment stated that fucking for money isn't work. He implied that the prostitute just orgasms all day and gets paid for lying horizontal.
That's simply not true. They have shitty workdays, and problems of all kinds. I disagree that they don't take life-threatening risks. STDs and clients going bonkers isn't dangerous in your opinion?
I also must disagree that the average whore can make a dentist's wage without putting in work beforehand; i.e. to become hot, to find a good, stable spot to advertise, to gain experience in slow-blows, striptease and whatnot. This is just an average ho we're talking about. Cause every ho I met knew these things, and most of them were far from what you would call premium.
I'm all up for discussion about this, but the shitstorm of hateful comments directed to sex workers, and then in turn directed to me because I criticized a false view on their work, and the community's general indifference toward these kinds of "opinions" is why TRP is frowned upon. Not because of sexual strategy. You can find that in Men's Health, and nobody talks shit about that.
excaliboor 5y ago
No, it doesn't. Less than 4% of people have multiple jobs, and that includes 2 part-time job combinations.
ghost_sk8er 5y ago
Excellent explanation. Yes you are correct. She stated she makes about 200k a year, just to open her holes. Amazing.
Useeikill 5y ago
Thanks man! But what I forgot to mention is that most cam girls and especially most whores can seriously decline in their $/hr rates when they hit the wall at age 30ish, whereas a doctor or the like can only increase their yearly income as time goes on and they keep improving. Still pretty sick how most girls, as long as they know how to tease and show off their body in the right way, can compete with highly educated professionals, but hey thats the world we live in.
ghost_sk8er 5y ago
Yep sex sells big time man. I told her about the looks declining and how she’d regret it if she lived lavishly and didn’t do something with all that income. She agreed and said she’s gonna start a couple of businesses. It’s fucked how most people work so hard to get up there while she can just literally fuck her way to financial stability.
wisdom_is 5y ago
The world is unfair and doesn’t owe you and anyone jackshit. You get wat you deserve. If you can get ahead by your looks, exploid that shit. Beauty is a genetic gift just like intelligence. Brilliant people were mostly born like that. They may have invested and nurtured in their knowledge. But a good looking person does the same. Now tell me which one is more just? None! There is no point in hating on people who found a way to live a life with less struggle. Hell we all want less difficulty in out lives. Some people are blessed to be able to achieve that. All that matters is the end result, not to much thr vehicle that was used to bring it about. Nature doesnt know morality. Its a human construct that is flawed and detrimental to your advancement
Useeikill 5y ago
Well if we're talking about that camwhore then she literally is not fucking anyone ???? which goes to show how absurd it all is. But I do guess that the downside is that her image is completely ruined by the whole thing and it will follow her to her grave.
Htowngetdown 5y ago
facts don't care about your feelings. whore is a whore. words have meaning.
edit: it's people like you who are the reason we are quarantined. you're defending a whore and saying her "work" is harder than an office job, lmao. Go watch your wife get fucked by her bull and let the big boys have their conversations
conscientiousful 5y ago
What in the fuck are you talking about? Who hurt you dude? Anger phase much?
"Whore is a whore" - I didn't call her a saint, I said that her job becomes hard at times, much harder than the original commenter (or you) can wrap his head around.
Listen to yourself. Go watch my wife getting fucked? Because I criticized an understatement about the difficulties of prostitutuon? You should get help.
Htowngetdown 5y ago
You’re the one who is mad that a whore is being labeled as such. It is the easiest job in the world in terms of effort and money. You spread your legs and wait for it to end, so difficult I’m sure.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
To be kidnapped, your passport stolen and people forcing you to do it with disgusting people, blackmailing to do bad things to your familly if you don't is the easiest job in the world ?
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wisdom_is 5y ago
You guys are too emotionally attached to your worldview. A job is an exchange of goods or services for money. That is the technical definition. If people are willing to pay you for just existing, its a job. It would be silly but there is an exchange taking place between parties. What you do is inject your own prejudices. Youre not the moral police. Just because you dont agree with what constitutes a “proper” job, doesn’t make you right. Try toning down your feelings and see things more from a neutral objective viewpoint.
Htowngetdown 5y ago
No one said it wasn’t a job. We just said it was easy to be a whore.
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Imperator_Red 5y ago
Concern trolls be gone. It's like wack-a-mole with you people.
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superkewldood 5y ago
Prostitution does sound like hard, shitty work. I agree, the OP is funny and an enjoyable post but this just seems like hatred.
ghost_sk8er 5y ago
No hatred. IMO it is quite pathetic and delusional that she thinks getting fucked for money is work. And by definition, a prostitute = whore.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
prostitute = whore. 100% ok. This is work still. You don't get that work as nothing to do with it being easy/hard, nice, fun, annoying or not. This is about doing something for money.
ghost_sk8er 5y ago
Nope it’s simply exploiting peoples sexual desires and capitalizing on em. That’s all there is to it. It is not work at all. You’re literally selling your body to guys who want to skip the whole dating process and get straight to the fucking.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
If I am a cool, I am just exploiting people eating desire and I am literaly sellling to people who want to skip the whole process of cooking and get straight to eating.
It is core to all businesses to do something that other are interrested in, otherwise there no value in it.
ghost_sk8er 5y ago
Lmao stop tryna justify a whore you’re not even redpilled if you’re trying to do such a thing ha get the fuck outta here
TheUnsteadyDonut 5y ago
Dude. Fucking is a hard job? You serious? Get the fuck out of here man. Come on
wowmansohacked 5y ago
I mean I wouldn’t call it hard in the way I would call working an oil rig hard. However imagine if your 9-5 was having to fuck some fat ugly std ridden woman. Hard pass.
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wowmansohacked 5y ago
I have never argued that they don’t do anything other than that. You’re reading too deeply into it to justify what you believe. It’s not hard good work. It’s shitty and unrewarding. It’s still under the work umbrella.
uniqueeleni 5y ago
Whatever you do on a regular basis that gives you money, is work. Prostitution is not only work, it can be an unpleasant one too.
Even if they lie like a dead fish, think about the reverse scenario. Imagine that you'd have to go to work every day and several ugly, fat, rude women (that might or might not have an STD) ride you until they come, one after the other, while at the same time thinking they are better than you. Plus, you would have to eat their pussy until they orgasm, because in general oral sex is a pretty standard service.
Sitting there and experiencing this unpleasant... situation is definitely work. Not many people would be willing to put up with if they don't really need the money.
ghost_sk8er 5y ago
You sound dumb as hell. All they’re doing is capitalizing on the primal sexual desires of human beings. It’s not work. It’s a pussy pass to financial stability.
greenlittleman 5y ago
You missing one big point. Women could be sexually excited by almost any man. Men can't. Most men can't get any erection if woman is fat or ugly. Women would be wet even if guy is ugly. We have different physiology.
uniqueeleni 5y ago
There is the ability for a woman to have sex with any man, yes, but that doesn't mean they are excited. That's why most escorts carry lube with them.
greenlittleman 5y ago
Sorry, but this sound like bs. There are studies in which it was proven what women can get sexually excited physically even when they watch monkey porn. Google "human women excited by bonobo". Escorts may carry lube with them for many reason (for example anal sex), but not because their vaginas can't become wet from random ugly dudes. Though I assume if guy is very unskilful then it could take him some time to make woman "erect", but it depends more on actual actions and skills than his looks. Most women can be aroused even by another woman (even unattractive one).
RightHandWolf 5y ago
Financially independent? No, no, no, no, no . . .
Financially independent people refer to their net worth as having "fuck you money." By her own admission, the stash o' cash made from her gash is "fuck me money."
As mentioned by others, for now she can make some bank before her looks fade , but even if she hits the wall gently, the wall draweth nigh. For now the economy seems to chugging along, but we are due for another "correction."
TitanUcheze 5y ago
I saw this and was wondering if anyone would post it here
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magx01 5y ago
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA
Luckyluke23 5y ago
well, go where the money is I guess.
russian_nigger 5y ago
shitpost. get out of your anger phase and go make some money for yourself
Bullfrog777 5y ago
How can you say you’re financially independent when your income relies on you being dependent on men that are willing to give you money?
kemchik 5y ago
so what business not dependent on men or women willing to give you money?
kemchik 5y ago
so what business not dependent on men or women willing to give you money?
Rtat 5y ago
Isnt that everybody though?
Bullfrog777 5y ago
For most people, yeah, but that’s what the sub she posted to is about. Becoming financially INDEPENDENT so you don’t have to rely on other people to earn your income. Only your own money/investments. Even throwing out the socially charged context of her being a sex worker, her insights don’t provide much value to the sub she’s posting in. Her advice boils down to “get a lot of people to give you money for nothing”.
Rtat 5y ago
I’m pretty sure she’s retired. And not to be a smartass but even when you’re living off your investments it’s the same thing just in the form of customers, tenants etc
krym33 5y ago
That made me giggle hehe
Alright lads, who didn't read the goddam sidebar, go fucking do it now.
kellykebab 5y ago
The delusion just really never ends.
At first I thought this was a satire post, but it's completely real. This could be sidebar material it hits so many points directly.
TriggeringEveryone 5y ago
Ironic thing is, she was hot enough to have locked down a millionaire without having to work at all.
Except, you know, that she's a whore. Most millionaires are smart enough not to commit to whores.
oldman_stone 5y ago
to me the whole thing read like an advertisement for cam whoring
lobstergenocide 5y ago
we should support the camwhore movement, if they're camwhoring at least that means they're not taking up space in actual jobs
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
You have no idea the skills and experience that was necessary; the hard work and sacrifice I've invested, to reach the top of my field feeding bread to ducks!
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Hahahahaha. Maybe the resentment of knowing the "love of his life" is whoring herself out to thousands of guys on the internet.
XLNC- 5y ago
I read through her post and thought exactly the same thing.
Surprisingly (or I guess not so surprisingly) she is still getting praised for the post and contribution she made to the subreddit, when she literally offered no valuable insights relevant to business; unless of course you’re a good looking woman wanting to become a cam whore.
In fact I wouldn’t mind if she was more transparent about it, because I guess insights into how wealthy you can become from being a cam whore are valuable to a niche. However she attempts to twist it into some valiant, arduous entrepreneurship success.
ozaku7 5y ago
That's basically TwoXChromosomes subreddit mentality. You get to be the top post for doing something a man does on a daily basis without much thought.
gerwig 5y ago
And I bet her fairytale story of retiring early is inspiring many others
Minopo 5y ago
Ahahahah, good point.... It took me almost 10 years to build a network of clients, friends with needs off my skills, etc... to achieve a similar montly value as a camgirl.
Selling a good body its easy... but try to sell a good brain and your ideas.
VeryTalentedCheff 5y ago
Meh creating a cult is easier with all the Dumbfucks around. Managing it is a little bit harder though, thats where you fake your own death, funnel cult money to your funeral expenses and become a matyr in their eyes.
ZeppKfw 5y ago
Hey, you need a co-cult leader? Hmu when you do
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VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Oddly enough more than one of my buddies has (independently) told me I should have my own cult. Me: "Why?" Them: "You'd be good at it. The food and wine would be good, everyone would sleep until noon and get laid a lot." Me: "Fair point."
DeGENZerate 5y ago
If you had more profound ambitions than bondage you could take that somewhere
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
I prefer to maintain my soft harem without the administrative duties.
I'm sure I could come up with some el cheezo name for it like "The Church of the Shining Path" or some shit. Actually, that sounds more like a mountain in Mexico or a rebel group in Peru. Will have to have a think about it.
DeGENZerate 5y ago
If you don't do something greater than wine party sex cult, your skills are gonna keep going to waste on vapid Western women
therealpkg 5y ago
Fuck leading a cult, I just want to join the one that does this. Wouldn't have to change a thing.
lobstergenocide 5y ago
"You have more fun as a follower, but you make more money as a leader..."
seedster5 5y ago
Boss babe selling mlm shit
Auvergnat 5y ago
By providing a service in return for money, cam-whoring qualifies as work. Remember prostitution is the “oldest job in the world”.
The really interesting discussion that nobody is having is why that job used to be the most shameful thing in the world, and why it’s not anymore.
It was utterly shamed because it is the ultimate expression of cuckoldry. Men are warry of promiscuous women because of our deep fear of raising a kid that’s not ours. Through all cultures this made things like faithfulness and virginity good values, and prostitution the absolute worst a woman could do. The few women getting into that line of work did so because they had no other choice. Often because their husband had died and they were with a kid in tow, no money, and no more youth and beauty to attract a new husband. It was always a last option because they knew the price was high: quasi ostracism from society.
So the really interesting discussion to have is why all of a sudden, that is not a shameful work anymore? why girls are not going for it as a last option? There is a lot to talk here about the sexual liberation of women paving the way for this to happen. I haven’t looked at the post but if OP says most of the comments are supportive, it truly illustrates how the shame is now gone.
If the shame is gone, if women can be prostitutes and then still be respected in society, still being able to get a good husband, kids, job, friends, social network, then be ready for a wave of mass prostitution in younger generations. Already girls on tinder ask for money and don’t see the issue in it. Already girls are looking at “sugaring” as if it was a hobbie that happens to bring in money. Note the language engineering to remove the shame from it.
Gents, prepare for a world where no man can find a girl that has not, at some point, made $$$ off her body. It’ll be normal, and further accentuate the decline of society through the mechanism narrated by that prostitute: women in their 20s will be much wealthier than men the same age, and struggle to find a husband her hypergamy deems acceptable.
DocZTheRockstar 5y ago
Women don't like the hard work it takes to be successful. They just like the feelings it gives them till they get burnt out and stressed out.
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Soliquidsnake 5y ago
This to me was the big one. She's essentially asking to do the same and sees no problem with it.
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pacjax 5y ago
dude you sound mad u need to over the fact that women use their primary imperative (sexuality) and you cant.
we should not support such a pussy ass post here
zyqkvx 5y ago
Retire on a million? One million will get her a conservative $500k house and 60 years of paid utilities and property tax. Did she budget for a lifetime of food and restaurant costs? Did she plan to drive a car at any point in her life? Did she plan to have stuff in her house like TVs, laptops, refrigerator, washer, dryer? Wear clothes at some point?
This is what you need for 'middle class'
This rant is less focused on her, more on how so much is so little if you do the math.
notajith 5y ago
In the FI community, generally they use the 4% rule, so if she can maintain a baseline 40k/yr lifestyle, she'll be ok. And she can optionally supplement that with other work as she wishes. But the point of FI is just that you don't rely on a job to live. You have enough reliable income to have more choices about how to spend your time.
AnsgarAhuizotl 5y ago
We don't need a camwhore to confirm our TRP. TRP simply is.
Mellow__Martian 5y ago
Juicy post. Thanks for sharing.
ChrimsonChin988 5y ago
Look at all you faggots shit talking this camgirl. She made millions of easy cash selling her body. Good for her. As if you gaylords wouldn't do exactly the same thing.
Also, of course she rationalizes that making all this money was hard and stresful (which it probably was, to a certain degree, especially for an unprepared early 20s girl). If we get lucky we tend to attribute it to skill and hard work on default because not doing so would be bad for our self-esteem. Admitting that your greatest accomplishment was more or less a fluke is detrimental to most peoples self-esteem so we rationalize.
Ofcourse you shits will say 'yes but thats not me hurr durr' but it is. I know plenty of fucking guys who made millions on the stock market in the 90s in their 20s and for them it was all downhill from there. They will never admit it was just right time right place and not due to their skill/intelligence. Doing so would fuck up their whole self image.
Don't talk shit about others, look where their weak points are, their shortcomings, their rationalizations and then look at yourself and your own pitfalls because believe me you're no fucking different.
ghost_sk8er 5y ago
Calm down there Lord Sire of the White Knights.
pacjax 5y ago
bunch of butthurt jealous faggots in this thread