Wanted to write this out yesterday, was thinking should I really do write it or not. Today, I've decided to write it down anyway.
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So me and my friend went out Saturday night, in the part of city where I haven't been for 6 years. Lots of clubs down there shut down, we even tried to go to one, but apparently it only works during summer time. Moved to one of the older ones, surprised it still works. In that club, the audience were mostly students, 19y+.
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I'd say the ratio was even more inclined towards female, really for every 5 guys there was around 5 girls, if not even 6. Anyway, we went there, all smiles in towards the bar. Ordered ourselves some drinks, then I made some conversation with some random guys near us, about football and other stuff. There wasn't that much place to dance at all, if even any at all, mainly everyone was in those separate areas with sofas, or near the tables. After a while, I approached two girls, or better said, only one of them, a blonde. Started a convo with a smile, how's their night going etc. Asked them where they're from, they told me and then prolonged that into what they study and that minor stuff. Made some light hearted comment about the place where she's from, our national team coach is from that place too. When I finally told her my name and asked for hers, she told me she's in a relationship, and her friend too. I was like, alright, told her to enjoy the rest of the night, and went back to my friend.
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Some time later, we somehow moved ourselves to a table where some girls were too. Made conversation again, but nothing much though. I approached some girls behind us, near that table. Tried to make a conversation, but I saw on them they didn't want to talk to me, keeping their answers short etc. Moved back to that table, and after a while, I asked one of the girls there where their friend went, a cute blonde. Told her friend that I fancy that girl. She told me she was outside, taking a break. I said OK, I'll go check up on her, which she also encouraged me to do so. Went outside, and I found her sitting on a bench. I approached her with: "Hey there, you by yourself here? You're friends are worried about you." She told me she was ok, just taking a breather. I saw her she was visibly drunk, and wasn't feeling best. Sat next to her, and she moved towards the edge of the bench. She told me she's alright, that I can go back inside, no need to worry. At that moment I saw that she was feeling uncomfortable with me near her, as she clearly demonstrated by sliding towards the edge of the bench. I asked her is she sure, she said yeah, I replied back OK and went back in. I moved back near that table, and her friends asked me where's she, why isn't she back with me. I told them she told me she's fine, that I don't need to worry about her, and told me to go back inside. The girls at table told me why don't I go back there, I missed (or will miss) my chance. Gave some quick thought about it, and seeing how she felt uncomfortable with me there, told them she just politely rejected me, that's all. Some moments later, they were joking to my friend that I had to "step up my game" (I can't translate it better in English).
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Soon after that, the club was shutting down and all, and we left. Approached three sets of girls, got nowhere once again. One other thing I should mention, I saw guys approaching girls in the club too, but they were all shut down too quite quick. The only girls that were with guys there, they arrived in the club together. Don't know if it's worth mentioning that, but there you go.
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IvyExcess 5y ago
Game. Game game game. You made small talk.
tunsku 5y ago
Could you point me to some starter's guide on game? Game is often mentioned but never explained.
IvyExcess 5y ago
Krauser PUA, Mystery Method, David DeAngelo's "Cocky Comedy" Product, the sidebar for the evolutionary psychology behind it all and why it works, Roosh's Bang and Day Bang, the book of Pook. get to googling and reading...and most importantly, trying and failing a shitload. Begin with Eye contact and body language, then go from there.
Fulp_Piction 5y ago
The mystery method if you wanna buy, otherwise google The Roissy Reader and The Book of Pook.
c4toyourdoornobeef 5y ago
Do you think that the book of pook really covers game? I didn’t think so tbh.
Fulp_Piction 5y ago
More strategically than tactically. I think it's a good resource for perspective on game, and good for developing an optimistic attitude.
I find it's lesson and Roissy's Commandments to be a good bookmark to keep.
c4toyourdoornobeef 5y ago
so what you you say the best resource for night/date game?
Fulp_Piction 5y ago
Mystery method. My game is rusty, but I've been here for almost 5 years and only recently decided to read it. I've got 2 chapters left but it's full of rp ideas so far and has a good step by step guide of the whole process at a good level of abstraction.
c4toyourdoornobeef 5y ago
i'll download it now lol. How has your trp journey been so far?
Fulp_Piction 5y ago
Ups and downs, dealt with a lot of anxiety and depression after my last ltr. I'm on the home stretch now though and have learned from it. I find it easy to read manosphere stuff instead of applying it, but I'm making improvements and my outlook and attitude is night and day. I'm trying to deliberately approach and apply the mystery method, I talk to plenty girls but usually through friends of friends. Most of my friend group have left or fallen by the wayside so it's a bit difficult to go out and approach without a 'troop,' to borrow from The Chimp Paradox.
I'm 15-20kg heavier than I was at 17/18, but I do need to cut. Had plenty setbacks gym wise but I'm happy with my progress. I've changed field to computer science, about to graduate in the fall, I actually apply myself instead of doing the bare minimum to get by. I expect to work hard at a job and hopefully get out of the country and see the world. I have found though that plans rarely work out 100% so whatever happens happens, I'm going to try to do my best and enjoy it.
So overall, lifechanging but I can probably do a little more when I leave Uni. Yours?
cufflad 5y ago
Be more fun. You’re just interviewing them with boring convo topics. This is ok in day game where you need to build some rapport but night game you need to polarise ASAP or they just get bored.
Be sarcastic and poke fun at them.
‘You looking for a boyfriend? You’re not too bad I’m sure you’ll find somebody’
‘You don’t look like much fun, go and dance on the bar - all girls that do that look like they’re having fun’
Kino, grab hand and move them around etc etc.
The vibe has to be playful!!!
WaT30 5y ago
Yeah poking could do it, will try that next time if I don't get any response.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Women go to clubs for validation, not to meet men. That's why the music is loud enough to cockblock you.
This is fucking terrible.
What she hears: "by yourself, loser, worrying your friends".
What she doesn't hear: "I am a man, I have a penis, I might use it on you if you're lucky".
Andgelyo 5y ago
100000 % agreed, the clubs and bars is the absolute WORST place to get women. It’s society shoving blue pill bullshit again to sheep. I have much better chances going on dating sites than go to bars, get shitfaced, and wake up with a hang over and my dick in my hand.
blaseee 5y ago
Lmao, I cringed a bit when I read what he said.
embracingtheredpill 5y ago
Those girls were right. You gave up too quickly on all sets.
LightSkinKen 5y ago
Why would you go to a club and start interviewing people? Your vibe the whole night was take take take, instead of what can I give to the club. You turned around instantly when the girls said they had BFs because you weren’t having a legit convo. You were hunting and they could tell. Actually go to the club to party and you’ll have shit popping off for you when you least expect it.
LordTilde 5y ago
You should check out rooshv's books, they cover some of the stuff you seem to be having trouble with. On the up side, you're approaching, which is a success in it's own right. Keep at it
machocornflakes 5y ago
I see red flags all over your text, so let me be straight with you.
“..I said OK. Then I <insert what the other person expects me to do here>”
You are really showing your leadership skills by flaunting your flawless compliance /s.
If you had to choose, would you want to be their bitch, or would you want them to be your bitches? They are your pets and you are their master, and master is fun to be around because he plays and knows what to do with certainty.
When gaming, think of what women might expect, and do exactly otherwise or something else. Being predictable (especially complying) completely ruins the excitement. At the very least add some personality to it by adding some personal ingredient to the process (fucking start skipping with irrational confidence giving high fives to people on your way if that’s your thing).
Next point:
STOP ASKING QUESTIONS, at the very least minimize them to a complete minimum. Play the game: how can I optimize a conversation with the objective to minimize the number of questions I ask. Make her be interested and ask the questions.
Take them on a journey (also known as creating a narrative). You are the driver here, if she’s not feeling best, in what world would adding on her worries by mentioning her friends worrying about her resolve her feeling bad. There is a reason she left her friends in the first place. You go outside for your own interests, happen to sit next to her, then engage because you happen to sit next to her. People feeling like shit, sitting outside are usually in a negative mental loop. Switch the script, I presume you are “caring”, don’t. Instead, have fun, that’s what both of you are looking for anyways.
Laugh, be certain, stop asking unnecessary pussy questions and stop complying like a bitch.
WaT30 5y ago
Fair point, still don't think I'd have any luck with that girl. She didn't come back inside the club, and one of her friends soon afterwards went to be with her too.
DadOnDabs 5y ago
Right now you are a football. You are being passed for a few plays then subbed for another. You need to be a pinball in game. Bounce around the whole night talking to as many people as possible. 3 sets is a warm up unless you immediately click with a girl which you didnt). Try to aim for 5-10 approaches minimum for a night out.
P.s. club/bar game is a numbers game. Sure a little game on top will help but in reality it's all about numbers. The more you approach the more you will fuck.
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LondonChad1999 5y ago
Ok what made you different from 90% of the guys in there?
WaT30 5y ago
Well, my friend told me I was bigger than the bodyguards there lol, so I guess that. 185cm with like 90kgs muscle. Also wore a blue shirt, while some of the guys there were in normal t-shirts. That and, I didn't see many guys approaching girls at all.
Battagliare 5y ago
There is one thing you need to understand, friend.
A cocky/funny skinnyfag with proper humour would get those girls.
Game is really important.
Useeikill 5y ago
I second this from personal experience. I knew and still know this one guy who is short, extremely skinny but has grown a beard and is what you described, cocky, funny and always able to talk shit to girls. That guy has hooked up with almost every female friend I know and has insanely high success rates. Game truly is an important thing, which is sad given how unnatural it comes to a man. But like any skill it can be learned/refined.
Battagliare 5y ago
There is this one thing in our advantage: game is completely changable unlike looks so we are good.
SalporinRP 5y ago
Exactly. As long as you are just okay looking great game can get you 9s and 10s.
The biggest pussyhound I ever encountered was 5'10 with the body type of Seth Rogen but fucked smokeshows because he was confident and funny as fuck but not in a class clown type of way.
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
Fuck clubs. Cold approach in the streets and grocery stores in daylight. Hb8s give you shit? Approach fat hb4. Become outcome independent. Slay, king.
Zech4riah 5y ago
Hope you realized that most of the guys don't live in a city/area where there is hot women walking everywhere.
It's not rare that you need to roam around 15mins to find new set even in a bigger city.
"Well move to bigger city then motherfucker!" - Move to be able to cold approach more efficiently day time on streets than in clubs? No thanks.
AlfredKinsey 5y ago
This is a true struggle in smaller towns/cities.
Foobyx 5y ago
Where are you from, what do you for a living, what do you study are boring as fuck questions. You don't even care about the answer, do you? No wonder they pull the relationship card, they were bored to death.
You need to step up your conversations skills dude.
AlfredKinsey 5y ago
I literally walked away laughing from a girl who asked me my major as an opener at a party.
This was cringy and boring. Move things forward! Have fun!
randomTATRP 5y ago
What do YOU use as an icebreaker? What do you ask her anyway?
Foobyx 5y ago
randomTATRP 5y ago
The topic is about bar game, not dates. I can converse with women on dates.
Foobyx 5y ago
this is bar opener, but you don't seem to understand :/
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shelteringloon 5y ago
You talked to two sets girls. At a club. One was a drunk girl who felt sick. Abundance and its a number game.
OldPeopleLeather 5y ago
You sound boring to me. Be more entertaining. If I can barely get through your field report how is a girl at a bar with peanut attention span going to be engaged?
Instead of "hey there you by yourself here?"
I would say "are you socially estranged? You look like you have no friends."
Hypothetical response "no haha just outside for a break"
Me: "sure, I'll sit down but don't be too clingy please"
Her: responds with shit test
Me: blow that out of the water, maybe use my favorite line "you see that guy over there.. well I wouldn't fuck you with his dick". Look her in the eyes real sensual like, maybe start a little kino. "I'm horny, do you know any hot girls around here?"
Not that I am so successful either, but I never lose because I have fun.
AlfredKinsey 5y ago
More cringe. Don't borrow this dude's moves.
f33 5y ago
Idk if this is the best advice. Dude you sound like a dick. Not in a good way.
brg2 5y ago
Guys always hate being on the receiving end of a dick comment. Women on the other hand? Can't wait to get their lips n hips around it
OldPeopleLeather 5y ago
You're probably right, but when I try to be nice the pendulum swings too far the other way and I'm a total pussy. For me, I feel it's better to be too bold and dickish and have all the fun I want than to be an emasculated pussy who gets depressed after every approach.
f33 5y ago
Feel you. I guess whatever works
Ochialoc 5y ago
It's always better to be a dick than being too polite on clubs and bars. You literally got 30 seconds to work with. Instead of giving the girl her 300 polite and uninspired interaction of the day give her something challenging. Still , it's better to find balance but it's safer to lean more to dickness than politeness...if you intend to get some.
TheCiph3r 5y ago
not the best advice but better than OP’s convos. This guy is polarizing like what others suggested.
oooKenshiooo 5y ago
Made me lol. have my upvote.
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RedPillUY 5y ago
Where are you? I mean, in what country?
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Itscommonsensebro 5y ago
Women who go to clubs are airhead trash bro. Dont waste your time.
sanitypanacea 5y ago
Go to clubs and disregard this comment. You are looking for fun bro. Those women are too.
Dingbat mchaltertop fucks just like emo mchardcore band and classics mclibrarian. Plus the more bubbly often goad their introverted friends into coming out lol
WaT30 5y ago
I agree, but the girls in this club seemed fine. They didn't have that upstuck feeling to them. Most of those girls that act like that go to the most known nightclubs, where the high-rollers are. This one was on the smaller side, not to mention the vast majority of them were students, around 20 y were all.