I’ve been on this sub for a few years now and I’ve seen a fair share of posts. The thing that I see the most is new guys coming to this sub posting field reports about what to do or say to get beautiful girls.
Don’t get me wrong; I love when a newbie swallows the pill and learns the reality of social dynamics and sexual nature of women. One thing to emphasize, however, is that this sub does not serve as a sub to get you women. If you want that, hop on over to the seduction subreddit.
The best thing by far about this sub has been all of the REAL and RAW self improvement advice that comes with it. This is where it differs over seduction and PUA lifestyles.
The contributing men on this sub spit truth, like an angry father who wants the best for his son. The way members preach seems harsh or sexist to outsiders (hence why we’re quarantined), but in today’s world, the WAY you say something is JUST as important as the message itself. This is true with all genders and I learned this quickly from my father. You can talk boring stuff to a girl, but the way you communicate sexualizes the interaction. You can lecture your child, but it won’t do shit if you lecture them in a soft tone.
My main point is that you can’t get the most gorgeous women if you’re not working on becoming a superior man. Why should the hot girl who busts ass in the gym bother giving you her number? Why should the cute smart girl in your classes go on a date with you, the dumbass of the class?
The good field reports that you read are guys who’ve been working on themselves. When you improve yourself to a level that radiates outwardly, being alpha cannot be faked. You become confident in yourself and abilities and it is then when women will take notice. This is “why fake it till you make it” is bad advice. You need to cut out distractions and get to work.
Once you become naturally confident, getting better women becomes easier, even without trying. Take the best advice from this sub and apply it directly to your life.
I’m not saying not to talk to women. I’m merely emphasizing not to focus on them. They should be a byproduct of your self improvement. The more you self improve, the better the byproduct.
You should focus on three aspects of your life if you’re new: Productivity, physical health, and mental health.
I’ve been focusing on the importance of habits and self discipline (read books about this) for mental health and productivity. I apply these ideas to my engineering program. I also focus on weightlifting + dieting for physical health.
Once you begin to excel in these areas, then you’ll be headed on the path to becoming a superior man. It is on this path that you’ll have access to quality women.
But until then, pop in your headphones, pump those weights until failure, eat + sleep a lot, get your shit done, and take care of yourselves bois. Remember, it’s a marathon and not a race.
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Edit: Someone commented how this sub is worthless. The purpose of this post was to emphasize self improvement and not women.
I agree there’s a lot of repetitive and generic advice as well as advice on how to get girls. What’s made me stay with this sub has been the specific advice. Read through top posts of all time to get an idea of what I mean and apply the best ones directly to your life and problems.
Here’s some examples:
Generic: Be smart, make money.
Specific advice: Here is the Feynman Technique, a tool to help you learn complicated subjects, efficiently and effectively. ————————————————— Generic advice: Be disciplined.
Specific: Here are how you can implement habits in your life to increase productivity, meet goals, and be more disciplined. ———————————————— Generic: Be smart with your time.
Specific: The 80/20 rule is a proven theory that shows how 20% of actions give 80% of results. Here’s examples and how other people implemented it.
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Recognizing problems in your life and applying TRP style solutions puts your wellbeing and self interest before anyone else, and that’s where TRP differs from the female imperative. This is what TRP is really about. Every situation is different, it’s up to you on the best way to approach it.
throwitpplaway 5y ago
In a way I disagree with this practice l.
Granted of course, you should not be a fat slob in general, and should WANT to be the best of yourself you can be...
But women? It can be a rabbit hole. I think key is to have undeniable self belief to the point of insanity.
There are many good looking, fit, rich, and able men who are still lagging behind because they feel like they are lagging behind.
I’ve found myself in a much better position with women when I was overweight (I am shredded now) because I didn’t give a shit. I simply said I AM special, I AM unique, I AM the value itself and people just sensed that. You don’t need to provide a yacht pool house to provide value.
Also the whole idea of “put your headphones in, lift weights and tuck in a corner reading a book” is not going to lead you to somehow come out of your man cave as a BATMAN/JAMES BOND character. You’ll still lack confidence.
NextBad 5y ago
TRP is about reality, not a specific guideline, if you understand reality you will naturally do the right thing. Discipline , isn't necessary or working hard.
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>http://psychologyofattractivenesspodcast.blogspot.com/2014/07/july-2014-criminals-have-more-kids.html
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Criminals have more children ,
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> My main point is that you can’t get the most gorgeous women if you’re not working on becoming a superior man. Why should the hot girl who busts ass in the gym bother giving you her number? Why should the cute smart girl in your classes go on a date with you, the dumbass of the class?
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This has never been a issue, a fat slob knows why he can't get a hot girl, it's the guy who is discipline, works hard, respects, and the girl chooses a fat slob over him? It seems you haven't read the sidebar but presenting blue pill ideology, it's not your fault, you been so brainwashed and so insecure that focusing on women is now immoral.
> This is “why fake it till you make it” is bad advice. You need to cut out distractions and get to work.
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You still think your special? She doesn't care about you, and wants a good time, putting your shit aside, and focusing on positive emotions even if you don't feel like it, makes her experience better , she is out for herself, not some pseudo authentic feel good crap
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Zech4riah 5y ago
So, this is what is says in side bar:
The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.
Which pretty much means that you are wrong with this:
Also your manifesto is in conflict with the fact that degenerates can get hot and/or high quality girls.
You "self improvement is everything"-guys should already wake up and realize that unless you are a celeb, athlete or something similar and/or your social circle includes plenty of hot single girls (which is rare in most cases), "Productivity, physical health, and mental health" doesn't bring you women. You need approach and have game.
Guys really have to understand this that they don't get disappointed when the girls aren't lining up for you now when you are shredded and making six figure income. Stop misdirecting people with this shit.
lunaluis 5y ago
If that’s the case, then what really makes this subreddit differ from seduction and PUA subreddits? The description of the subreddit should be changed.
I stay for the self improvement aspect of this subreddit. If it weren’t for that, it’s useless.
Read through your post history and damn I had a good laugh hahaha. You’re one of the guys this post was meant for. If you’re that obsessed with laying average dirty bar sluts, just go to a PUA subreddit. This sub is already full of shitty field reports with dudes over analyzing every action with women. I guarantee if you put that much effort into something else instead, you wouldn’t be so worried about what people think.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Pick what interrest you in every book, people, experience don't try to change them. It doesn't work.
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Atheist_Utopia 5y ago
The difference is that this sub teaches you to be high value instead of emulating it. Your quote saying that this sub is not about women is therefore false.
NabroleonBonaparte 5y ago
The sub may SAY it’s about getting women, but what it DOES is develop men.
Realize that picking up chicks is the carrot on the stick to getting men to improve themselves.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Yes, but....
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The subtle art is in being aware that what top quality women want, is a man who doesn't become what she wants. She doesn't want a man to improve himself for her approval. She doesn't want a man who works on his body because she like aesthetic men. She doesn't want a man who reaches for his goals, because she wants a man of success. She doesn't want a man who self-improves, because she wants a man who reaches his potential. A man who thinks like that, is stuck in approval seeking, people pleasing and co dependency.
She wants a man, who does what HE wants. She wants a man who improves his body, because HE wants his best body. She wants a man with mission, purpose, ambition because HE wants to achieve his mission. He wants a man who self-improves, because HE wants to be feel the best of himself.
Never EVER do ANYTHING for top quality women. Their approval and validation is the last thing we should be concerned with. They come, they go. We are the only ones we live with for our entire life. We are the only ones we should please. In fact, please yourself and fill your own wants and needs to the point where top quality women you could have, or have not, and still be fulfilled.
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She wants the man who will always feel a little out of her reach. She can never quite become his center. He is too busy putting first the only person who matters.
Don't work to become a superior man for 'top tier' women. As Rollo said, there is no such thing as 'quality' women. We build them, if we want. We become quality because WE demand quality from ourselves. When we have reached a level we're happy with (knowing we must never stop there), then we reach out to women we want to take. We qualify them, not work for their qualification. Either it's fuck yes, or fuck no.
This is a subtle art, if not remembered, will cause our inner power to be dispersed. Always check motivation. Who are you becoming superior for?
abhishek9129 5y ago
Its really simple if you see from another angle. Value can only hold value for long term. So if you want to fuck good genes, you have to become worthy. Faking it is a short term strategy which bites more intensely once fails.
Mostly people link improvement just to getting women, big proof of stuck up mindset.
Improvement is a default mode, use it to enhance your life and experiences.
Ignoring girls is a super bad idea. Raise your awareness and capabilities to be happy with or without them.
ozaku7 5y ago
This entire sub is completely worthless. It's just repetition and ranting, while you could just write a decent book and call it a day. It's pretty much a fixed formula. Become stronger, fitter, smarter, more sociable, improve your hygiene, become financially stable and independent and a fun guy and you win at life.
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Also, some forget professional TRP. Look at students thinking they are entitled to high salaries and good jobs just because of a fucking paper. Or those numbnuts who don't dare to ask for a raise or just quit and find another job that has better conditions. Or those who accept shit from clients and bosses, work unpaid overhours and so on. I know a guy who has his Phd and he fucking works mornings till midnight while his colleagues of higher position have a lower degree and go home by dinner. It's pathetic.
ExDota2Player 5y ago
I disagree, if you sort by top of year you can go down forever and find new interesting topics and ideas, theories, it's interesting in its entirety
Nicolas0631 5y ago
One shall work for himself, not others. It doesn't mean you don't do long hours or don't work overtime. It does mean that the value you get from this, improved mastery, the joy of the activity itself and all is what you are after. You are not after approval from others.
As working a lot is an extremely effecitve long term habit to make a career. There literally nobody that has top career and that doesn't work a lot. While quite valuable and necessary, it isn't enough.
That's the same for diplomas, in many fields if you don't have it, you can't even go to the table and play. You not be a chirurgian if you didn't study for it. A lawyer need diploma too. Even in the fields where it isn't required, the right diploma get you a head start, the best ones open door for job right now that other would not dream to get at the end of their career.
It isn't everything, of course and some bitch don't get it, but being driven, working a lot and having great academic level are invaluable asset in a career. They are not enough, agree, but if you don't have either, you are quite limited in your capacities then.
ozaku7 5y ago
Well, nobody needs a diploma for economics and if you need to work overtime you are simply inefficient and therefore doing a much more difficult job than you are capable of, or your company is exploiting you.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
I have a colleague like you, he explain he already proved his worth and do few hours, he has a big mouth and he is so confident of himself.
Other get responsabilities, big raise or even change company. On he side, he find excuse to explain why it didn't happen to him.
As for a good diploma in economics it among the things that get you the best salary for you first job
ozaku7 5y ago
A diploma is just proof that you aren't an idiot, because you only use 10% of the knowledge you gained. You are better off specializing into an industry and getting a job, learn within that industry and grow.
I have a degree and already at age 26 I make more money than my peers of equal age who got a masters while I have a bachelors.
It's rather about being at the right place and right time while not underselling yourself because alot of jobs are being oversold. You just need to be a team player who is liked by others, show ambition and growth, occasional overwork is fine but it's still an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. I can do overtime, but I want to get a few hours earlier home as compensation for the times when there is nothing to do.
Just saying that I could have used those 5 years of study to specialise in something instead of being a jack of all trades but a master of none. It's really just an entry ticket into the first job. Your degree matters less and experience more.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Everybody choose for himself. Statistics show that people with a high level of education make much more money than others but to each his own.
Also studies are not necessarily to become a jack of all trade I specialized heavily in computer science, would I have worked instead, It would have required more time to get the knowledge, not less.
Anyway, my point is that there no universal truth or unique way. Working a lot (or not much) is not necessarily an error. Making studies or not neither. Saying that all in a given category are stupid is naive.
It is easy to think of what could have been, think there 1 only way, but this isn't the case.
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INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Many guys are still stuck just 'trying to get the wominz'. Many miss important points to Rational Male and other books, many just want pick up artist advice, many want to know if the way they wipe their ass is 'beta or alpha', many can't put certain pieces together and see the internal shifts they need. Many just want to sit and bitch about the political state of feminism, and in turn be exactly like feminists.
Take what you need, and leave the rest.
hearse223 5y ago
If you actually enjoy what you do (thats whats we call winning in life) then you work as much as you want to. Being home by dinner means you likely only see life the way society dictates its supposed to be.
lunaluis 5y ago
I disagree that it’s useless but I agree there’s a lot of shallow and repetitive advice. While a lot of the advice can seem generic, I stay for the specific advice. You should sort by the top posts of all time to get an idea of some of the best things posted on here.
———————————————— Generic advice: Be smart, make money.
Specific advice: Here is the Feynman Technique, a tool to help you learn complicated subjects, efficiently and effectively. ———————————————— Generic advice: Be disciplined.
Specific: Here are how you can implement habits in your life to increase productivity, meet goals, and be more disciplined. ———————————————— Generic: Be smart with your time.
Specific: The 80/20 rule is a proven theory that shows how 20% of actions give 80% of results. Here’s examples and how other people implemented it. ————————————————
Realize the problems you’re struggling with in your life and implement TRP to find how others have fixed it. There’s many ways to approach a problem, but I believe TRP way is best. It puts your self interest and wellbeing before anyone else. The specific advice on this sub has been the best advice.
ozaku7 5y ago
The only thing about TRP is literally like the matrix, seeing the truth of how the world works instead of living an illusion.
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Most of the bluepills entering the red pill are just angry that the world doesn't work as they imagined themselves it does (all the while blaming their environment for deceiving them), so it's literally nothing but ranting, posting bullshit during the anger phase to convince themselves they are contributing and actually know something about TRP. They make it their life, an entire part of their life, while all it takes is to cut the bullshit, open your eyes, work on your physique, be sociable, make friends, have fun and don't centralize women to be the source of your happiness and solutions. Sticking your dick inside a vagina is just as natural as eating and drinking and should be treated that way.
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But it's the same with business. Tons of tasks could take only 5 minutes but because of all the bullshit that the human race generates it takes two fucking weeks.
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Nicolas0631 5y ago
The girls exist, but like there maybe 1 man out of 10000 like that, there 1 woman out of 10000 like that. So if you are not at least top 0.1% you'll have no chance.
Spicychickenaholic 5y ago
See that's where you're sadly wrong friend. I've tried this (with both stupid and ugly), and there's no getting around AWALT.. it's because hypergamy is not a learned trait, it's not something socially implanted either. If you go down that road you're going to find yourself where every bluepilled guy ends up when the "love of his life" branch swings or cucks him. And then what? You'll have put all of this wasted effort in, gotten even more badges of pain, for some time in with a HB6.
It's not worth it. Trust me.
ozaku7 5y ago
Look, if you want that HB9, you simply need to fall in love and live an illusion. Noone is perfect, neither are you. It's all about whether you can stand each other long enough to make a marriage work. which is just being great friends who fuck each other alot exclusively. What you mostly see is marriages who have fizzled out, they don't feel for each other but they can deal with each other, straight up hate each other or are just life partners with no sexlife. All because tradcon's protested against divorce, because god forbid that a couple that hates each other would divorce and find someone else to be happy with.
Seen plenty of marriages which are utter garbage, already in 1990, but because traditions, you cannot divorce because > taboo.
We have to sacrifice, but they have to sacrifice too. Remember that. In this reality, it's all about compromise to reach a balance.
wildtimes3 5y ago
You’re not wrong. You’re just an asshole. Upvote.
Like a lot of things, the sub there for those who need it. Guys who have completed getting fit, traveling, starting businesses, orgys on a boat etc... don’t need to read here except for pleasure, curiosity or maintenance.
When I was 21 there was no verbal framework for discussing female sexuality like there is now. Strangely enough, even then the same rules applied.
ozaku7 5y ago
Only the top tier of men should procreate, not the mentally and socially weak who live an illusion. Bluepills should remain bluepills, redpills should remain redpills.
I don't like to rephrase my thinking into something that is acceptable. Harsh words bring points most effectively.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Honestly, worldwide, doesn't look that it actually work like that. Typically the smarter the person overall, man or woman, the less she reproduce.
Take a clue at TRP typical advice to not get childrens.
And no you don't just get born top alpha. Even if, you'll become far better if you work on yourself to improve. Your say the same thing as all theses guy that say just be yourself.
It isn't like that because top tier men are all driven to improve. It a necessary quality. Not doing it discalify you.
ozaku7 5y ago
To be fair, evolution of mankind stopped the moment we started to keep vegetables alive, gave crippled a chance at live, tolerate the bullshit of mentally challenged and keeping the terminally ill just barely alive.
So now it's just a race who is the smartest rather than the fittest. If you look at the IQ tests today, they are much harder than say 60 years ago to keep the average at IQ 100.
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wildtimes3 5y ago
It’s a quote from a movie, dude.
It is standard practice in dog breeding to monitor genetics and to attempt to improve the performance and health of the animal or breeding line with every generation.
Even discussing similar practices with humans is frowned upon in regular society. Strange, isn’t it?
I haven’t thought a ton about this, but I suppose it could be that the gender in control of reproduction wants to base their reproductive decisions off of impulses and feelings. There seems to be little to no incentive for them to participate in something that would improve the species.
ozaku7 5y ago
Do you care about anything that improves the lives of others but not yours? Why would an individual consider the wellbeing of the general public of they can't profit from It? I'm serious, think about it. Dogs have no choice, dogs don't care, they just listen to get cookies, eat shit and sleep, once in a while entertain you. They have no idea how the world works as we are simply their gods and only source of food and happiness.
Women do what makes them happy and feel good, men do the same. Some men just want a beautiful wife which is desired by 80% of men, but only one can make the cut. You can't just show up and argue that women should do what is good for society and procreate with the lower half of men just because said lower half says so for their own benefit.
Humans are inherently selfish, as is any other organism.
wildtimes3 5y ago
Actually, after thinking about it...
Hypergamy is an inherent protector of genetic improvement. Woman want to reproduce with the best male specimen for reasons not necessarily for societal gain, but that is the net effect.
I’ve mentioned it elsewhere, DNA also has protectors built-in, I believe. The best fighters always have daughters, pretty much exclusively.
ozaku7 5y ago
You are overthinking it. Because women don't have to do anything to attract any male, she can choose and afford to find the best guy. That's why branch swinging is a thing because if she believes she can find better, she will stick around until she does.
Hypergamy is visible everywhere. We always want to have the best deal, the most result for least effort, path to greatest reward and lowest resistance. Men who don't have a choice become slaves of their first and only girlfriends. Women who have choice choose, and men who have alot of choice fuck around until they find a trophy to marry.
TRP is nothing else but realizing that you are the bottomfeeder of society and find ways to get yourself higher in the ranks, while being angry that you lost the lottery.
wildtimes3 5y ago
Obviously. I don’t know that thinking about it is overthinking though.
ozaku7 5y ago
Well I'm referencing that DNA has some sort of protector built it.
Really genetics is all about trail and error, and the point where a mutation in genes proves to be beneficial is at the point where this gene means the difference between survival and extinction.
Think about drastic heat, we have probably at some point developed the physical trait to sweat which cools us down significantly more than just being dry. This trait took over since it was such an advantage that mostly those with this trait survived and had a much bigger survival rate of offspring and much more energy to spare to procreate aswell.
DNA are just building instructions, no more. It either works or it doesn't. But a woman still chooses with feelings and brain, not with genes. Alpha dominant males show masculine behaviour which is sexy, much like a feminine woman is sexy. So if you are some nerd who has no masculine traits or behaviour because you are so silent, in the eyes of procreation you are a failure and don't function as you should. We look for extremes, hence most beta men are addicted to porn and don't really look for a female outside because they cannot find that extreme out there that satisfies them. The porn they search for also gets only more and more extreme because simple porn doesn't do it anymore.
Now I'm the one overthinking It, but everything has a reason. Sometimes scientists are right but at very few times they are still able to be full of shit and spout nonsense they only thought about for 5 minutes.
Rimefang 5y ago
Find out who you want to be.
When I wanted to lose weight, I worked out and got ripped. When I wanted to get tattoos, I got them. Now, finally, I have found want to do with my life, and am extremely grateful. I have a direction. If I meet someone, cool, and if I don't, then oh well. I still got me.
Be happy with yourself, first and foremost. The rest will follow naturally.
lunaluis 5y ago
100% agree with this and this is the lens that I’ve viewed this subreddit and life in general with.
_Icarus_Reborn_ 5y ago
Great words to live by.
But it's also something to be weary with,and never settle, as you should always be striving to be better.
toker420blaze 5y ago
What do you do with your life?
Welendas 5y ago
Can you tell me how does this apply in bar
Sir_Distic 5y ago
Something that I've had to explain to beta friends who literally whine they can't get hot girls like the gym bunnies I ignore because I'm working out not gawking at some 24 year old girl in brand new spandex.
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I tell them the truth: To get the kind of girls you want to get you have to be the kind of guy she wants to be with.
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This is why men claim women only want guys with money. Most women I've encountered want a man with money but not because they are golddiggers. But because a man with money is successful, he is driven, he is passionate. He doesn't sit around playing video games, watching porn and eating Taco Bell 5 days a week. He hits the gym, he has cool hobbies, he is passionate about his career. He works hard to get that success. So he can afford nice things. Now we all know women want men like that because of the status it conveys. A powerful and successful man with a beautiful girl on their arm. They want to be on that arm. Not because they want him to pay their bills and take care of their bastard child.
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It's bitter medicine for beta guys and most will agree with me but NEVER take even the most minimal of action to make that happen. That's ok, less competition.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Likely that he is driven toward his work, fully agree. The rest is random. If anything, he is likely to be quite concentrated toward is work/career/wealth path and not necessarily that great in other aspects of his life.
A top tier woman will not accept a guy that is just wealthy but otherwise uninterresting. It is necessary, not enough and the rest (you mentioned a few) like going to the gym, having cool hobies and all are as important.
FereallyRed 5y ago
Women are a lagging indicator of success.
NextBad 5y ago
Than Elon Musk and Tesla are the stupidest people on earth
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Greysmoke023 5y ago
Thanks for the post OP, I got some researching to do now!
DigitalDragonSlayer 5y ago
After reading TRP, I’ve started a workout plan to stop being a skinny fat bitch and guess what? I’m 2 years of consistent workouts away from my goal.
2 years.
Change takes long amounts of time and consistency. But the SMV bump is noticeable and worth the work.
Mellow__Martian 5y ago
I don't know man, worked pretty well for me. For about a year I faked being this confident, cocky guy. Eventually, I didn't have to fake it because that's what I had become. Worked absolute wonders for me.
wobbleelbbow 5y ago
Fake it till you make it has a very specific meaning and used only for specific situations. Like when you have your first time with a girl, first kiss, first sex or do not want to appear a loser so you create an aura of a man who has abundance of options (when in fact you have none and haven't slept with any woman yet)
This is where this advice of "fake it till you make it" usually being applied.
samraat65 5y ago
Any tips on ignoring girls in high school? I always find myself wasting time on them rather than focusing on myself.
YrjoWashingnen 5y ago
Find a hobby and avenue for self improvement: lifting, running, swimming, speaking a foreign language, target shooting, etc.
Your own skills and achievements stay with you, whereas girls (especially turbulent high school relationships) are fickle and can leave even if you did everything right.
DiskKiller2 5y ago
Additionally, ignoring them is likely to attract their attention, so it’s win-win even if you want to end up in a relationship. Focus on improving yourself and doing the things you like in life.
volvostupidshit 5y ago
Exactly. And in HS it is really easy to feel like you have abundance because the girls are so many. Just act mysterious, cool and confident and girls will want to try to talk to you.
Auvergnat 5y ago
Ah I see that the new issue of the bi-weekly IGNORE BITCHES TRP IS ABOUT SELF-IMPROVEMENT!!1! has just arrived. Let me get a cup of coffee and I’ll be right back
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ForsakenSalt 5y ago
So much truth.
Only thanks to the tangible advice I read here have I moved along my journey from shy, skinny nerd to independent, well put together, focused man.
If you told me from 3 years ago that today a plate would drive 1 hr to see me and then be made to wait 25 minutes in the rain for me to be around (lol). He'd say BS and girls won't stand for that.
Well he was wrong, and an idiot. And that boy is dead and buried.
A man with goals, authority and confidence is in his place. A man that these plates will go out of their way to be with. That's the true nature of the world, and the importance of being a man with the right approach and attitude.
therapistGetsSocial 5y ago
The good news is all you need to become a superior man, as far as women are concerned, is going to the gym; you don't need to find the theory of everything.
If you are a lazy, weak ass then you deserve female contempt and feminism.
No. Strength is a muscle thing to the female brain.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Not really. You'll get a few mindless bitches and that it. If you don't have other things like being interresting, driven, holding frame, overalla well rounded person, you'll not really interrested most girls.
Great body will get you one night stand and womens that can't afford men that have it all.
the99percent1 5y ago
I always use Cristiano Ronaldo as the example of a superior man.
This guy has become beyond a god in dedication to his mission. A modern day conqueror.
If anyone wants to aspire to be a superior man, if you follow even a quarter of what Ronaldo does on a day to day basis, you will be in the top 1% of males worldwide.
unn4med 5y ago
Mind sharing a few of his habits?
FereallyRed 5y ago
The higher the HB you go for, the more competition you have.
Everybody wants the 10.
So she has her pick.
Why you?
hack3ge 5y ago
The right question is - why her?
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
This is what annoys me about posts here saying "make her want you and no one else" or "have her go crazy over you" or any other number of posts.
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These people have never dated HB8+ women. When you date a college cheerleader, hot athlete, model, etc. they have top tier dick thrown at them. Unless you can raise your value to an absurd level you will be disposable.
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Which is ok. They are disposable too. And dont compare yourself to others but the man you were a month ago, a year ago, etc.
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skrrtrr 5y ago
on dating apps, sure. In real life? Absolutely not everybody is going for the 10 since they are too scared so even If you are not good looking yourself, you'd have a bigger chance getting a 10 than the majority of the population because the majority of men have become whimps.
OfficerWade 5y ago
I think this is the mindset you have to share if you go for any girl you think is attractive, because it means you know on some level we’re all cut from the same cloth. That there is anxiety or pressure-to-succeed has only to do with the value we put on women. Which is why it’s so important to take the pussy off the pedestal.
FereallyRed 5y ago
It's not the "whimps" you need to worry about when you're playing in the big leagues. You think the top 5% men are "too scared"? That's your competition.
I'm not talking volume of AFC's, I'm talking SMV.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Yep. In the dating big leagues being 6+ and fit, above average face, interesting personality/hobbies, and a good career is TABLE STAKES. And unless you have an x factor (and no being tall, or having a 6 pack, or being able to deadlift 500 isnt an x factor at this level) then you are pretty disposable.
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These men also are not afraid to confront you as well. You think shit tests from women are bad? You will get them from other men too.
RoadToZion1119 5y ago
Being able to deadlift 500 lbs is not a factor in any level you social retarded pricks. No woman cares about how much weight you can lift
Imperator_Red 5y ago
We all know that a woman doesn't care about the number of the weight you lift. They care about you looking good, which just so happens to come from lifting heavy weights.
I keep re-reading your sentence before I submit this, hoping that I read it wrong, but no, you really do appear to be this stupid. Please accept this retard of the day award for your impossibly idiotic comment.
RoadToZion1119 5y ago
This is a ridiculously good example (almost like stagged) of what you get if you combine social autism, anger issues and a little bit of Napoleon complex, just enough to make it hilarious, but, taking into consideration that you are in my team I will try not to humiliate your hilarious ass.
First of all, he literally said 'being able to deadlift 500',he didn't say 'having big muscles' if that's what he wanted to say (he didn't and that is OK). Deadlift is a compound movement that although raises testosterone to a certain point, is NOT the best way to build muscle (but to build strength) if your goal is to build muscle lifting heavy weights as your pathetic, hilarious text implies.
Second, lifting a lot of weight =/= having a lot of muscle. 1RM are not the ideal way to build muscle opposed to reps somewhere between 8-12 (according to literally any research you can find on the subject) and of course you have a genetical limit after which no matter how strong you get, you do not get noticeably bigger (without drugs) and you have hit this point way before you hit 500 lbs deadlift.
Third, even if you COULD naturally build that much muscles, if say the more weight you added the bigger you got, it AGAIN wouldn't be ideal on sexual attraction.Ronnie could deadlift 800 lbs , Jeff can deadlift -propably- around 350 lbs , both are using drugs none of those bodies are naturally achievable neither do they have anything to do with how heavy the weight they deadlift is (Rather which and how many drugs they use) but IF THEY WERE NATURAL and their size had to do with Ronnie deadlifting 500lbs and having huge muscles and Jeff deadlifting 200lbs with way smaller muscles, no woman on planet earth would prefer Ronnie's huge muscles opposite to Jeff's athletic body.
The problem with your argument is that there is both in TRP and outside a mindset of 'yaw how much can you lift bro'. People literally think that if they manage to lift 100 more lbs or increase their muscle size their SMV suddenly increases. Increasing your muscles' size does increase your SMV, specifically increasing your shoulders, traps,neck,lats and forearms but after a year in the gym (and long before you reach 500 lbs) the size that you get is pointless as far as SMV - SEXUAL STRATEGY is concerned.
Lifting 500 lbs may give you respect among your buddies, but a woman couldn't care less. Your buddies may say how amazing your big boobs and biceps look but for a woman they are non-existent after a certain point,especially when you are near a 6'x'' dude. You can look good without lifting heavy weights, you can look good with lifting heavy weights also as long as you do your cardio.
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FereallyRed 5y ago
The ability doesn't matter to women. The physique and discipline required to get there are absolute prerequisites at this level.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Haha obviously, but women care about how much you like you can lift. To a woman being able to bench 200 or 300 might as well be the damn thing, it would be like having an american tell you how much Yen is worth. Those numbers are meaningless.
The X factor can be any number of things. Maybe you’re a successful club DJ. Maybe you own a sailboat and do that as a hobby. Maybe you have your own business or high scocial standing in the community (president of some organization she gives a damn about)
None of them are easy. But you need something else besides having everything above to go from say top 10% of men to top 1-3%
btrpb 5y ago
So true. Keep your 1RM in your notebook.
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wiffofass 5y ago
You're right. The truly hot 10s don't get approached as much as you'd think.
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wiffofass 5y ago
Thanks for the downvote, you have hurt my feelings :(
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uglynihilist 5y ago
Thats why I choose red pill community over any pua community. Become high value vs emulate high value. Delete tinder, stop posting lame shit on insta and keep working so you don’t have to fake it.
NextBad 5y ago
You won't be good at dating if you don't practice , it's a acquired skill, with a catch 22 , the more she perceives , the better you are. Faking it doesn't mean lie, it just means no one needs your entire life story
kylerosa21 5y ago
I wouldn’t delete Tinder to be honest. I would keep it, see what happens, but don’t be expecting anything from it or investing so much time into worrying about it if you’re not a high value man and still have to build your masculine foundation.
ChesterRickman 5y ago
Depends on location. Social media game and it's importance differs from country to country.
Sir_Distic 5y ago
I deleted Tinder. All it was is fat single mothers looking for "security" aka Beta Bucks. There were tons of good looking women but those were all bots. This is based off my current area.
SalporinRP 5y ago
Tinder 4-plus years ago used to be great. It was like the wild west. Everyone was on it because it was a cultural phenomenon, and Tinder hadn't implemented a bunch of algorithms designed to give you a trickle of matches on purpose instead of just showing you everyone that was close to you. You could literally ask girls to hookup 3-4 messages into the conversation it was crazy.
I live about 8-9 miles from a pretty major city so that was just in my range. I'm not even that good looking (probably around a 6/10) and there were days when I could get 20-25 matches in a single day.
Tinder now is trash. They just withhold people who liked you from your stack so you pay for gold.
destraht 5y ago
I just had a moment of clarity that algorithms stingily rationing out happiness is the future which we are all being set up for if we don't selectively degrid. I'd rather ride the chaotic wave of natural life than to hope that my tech masters have set loose bands on their slot machines of fulfilment. You are always going to lose when they have the game that dicked.
papunigga031 5y ago
This is a very interesting point.
It is definitely easier now for those in control to manipulate our perceptions. If happiness is at our fingertips at all times, control is at their fingertips at all times.
sadomasochrist 5y ago
Was worried about seeing a high beta program diatribe. Instead, post gave us the business.
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Nicolas0631 5y ago
You just have a different definition of "top tier", that isn't 100% on physical appearance.