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Background: The title may seem a bit odd of a title. But bear with me, there’s content here.

I was a blue-pilled beta not too distant in the past, and I have been accused of being BP-conditioned right now as I type this in front of my computer. So, why am I writing this? Cause you may think you loved a woman, and you may think that she loves you back. But it’s all a farce and an act. This is TRP and most of y’all probably already believe me, but I hope you still give this a read.

Body: Whilst in my BP phase, I was head-over-heels in love with a woman. Let’s call her Laura.

Things with Laura were absolutely perfect. She was a journalist (got fired later) - charming, smart, enthusiastic and great in bed (she had far more experience than I ever had before meeting her). I believed at the time, that I would never ever meet a smarter woman than her in my life as she had even worked on a project for effin’ NASA (I was proved wrong less than a year later). She was fat though, around 185 lbs (Red Flag numero uno) and 5 foot 2. HB5/6. Very pretty face and hair though.

Weirdly, we met while playing a sport, something I am good at and what was my primary source of income until me self-proclaimed retirement (I couldn’t dedicate enough time to my business and this sport wasn’t earning me six figures). She interviewed an international teammate of mine, and she got in touch with me (semi-famous person with four-digit followers) on insta so I could get her in touch with my colleague.

Slowly but steadily we started to hit it off, and she told me she loved me around day 17 of me ever knowing she even existed (Red Flag numero dos). I didn’t have any other tail at that moment (was concentrating on my work) so I went ahead with whatever the F was happening.

Slowly and steadily, thanks to me BP ways, I started falling in love with Laura as well. I started thinking “this is the best thing to ever happen to me” which at the time, I truly believed in.

The best thing about her was that she loved sex, and so do I. I had been woken up by a BJ nearly every day she spent the night with me as well. Absolutely no complaints in this department.

We got real close, and she confided in me how she was raped by a man a few years ago (RF numero tres), and how she still didn’t have full control over her broken bones/limbs (broken by the rapist). She telling me that made me fall in love with her even more (I was a cuck).

A few months passed by. I kept thinking and believing that this is perfection. The worst during this period was her periods when she turned into a cranky animal for a while (she didn’t ever refuse sex even during her periods).

I had to move away for work after self-retirement, so this turned into a long-distance relationship. I went back home, started working for my father. The distance is a lot, 1200 miles to be precise, so we couldn’t meet after that. I missed her desperately and thought a lot on how I could change all this. I didn’t want to live without her (eww).

During one of those stupid thoughts, I had decided that she was the future mother of my children. I had even foolishly told her about it (and tbf she didn’t freak out, she loved children as well). In my brain, I was married to her and had kids in the future. I went as far as purchasing a diamond ring for her. I can’t believe I had done this, it was one of the most foolish decisions I made in my life (other than deciding to want to marry her).

I had asked her (before she ever came) that I would like it if she moved in with me. I have a lot of space, so we didn’t even have to move-in per se, I could have allocated her three rooms in my house if I wanted to. She told me she wouldn’t do that and asked me to move in with her to her hometown (not where we met, a separate beach city).

I had invited her over and everything was set, I was all ready to propose to her the next time we met. I was even ready to leave my entire comfortable life behind and move in with her to her parent’s city. That next time never came. We never met after that last kiss at the airport.

Shortly after moving back home, my father suffered a heart-attack. It was truly bad, touch-and-go, he could have died easily, but as the warrior that he is, he survived. But it was a super tough month.

During that month, I barely had time for ANYONE. I couldn’t whatsapp/discord/text/call her in any way for a long period of time. She got mad. A lot.

Bad exchanges. She said mean things about my parents (separate incidents, red flag numero cuatro and cinco).

I was barely talking to her 5 minutes a day.

Then came the final red flag, numero seis. She wanted sex (phone sex isn’t enough, that I agree with) and she suggested that I be on the phone and watch/participate while she has sex with her best friend (an autistic mong).

That was enough for me to hear. I broke up her.

She is a woman I truly loved, I would have sacrificed every single thing in my life for her, cause I thought that she was the goal of my life.

And today, my BP-conditioned brain wanted me to check up (AKA stalk) on her online, randomly, I opened up her insta (never do this, block as I should have) and saw what she had going on.

I saw whatever went down in her life for the past 6 months. Let’s just say I wasn’t pleased. Then I stalked enough and found posts on reddit made by the both of them in the BDSM subforums (she is an S).

It took her only one month to find another man.

I believe today is the day when my transformation into an RP man is complete, mentally. The physical is yet to fully come through but my aim is a six-pack by the summer (August) and I have been working hard in the gym 3-4 days a week since November.

The woman who promised me she would die for me and bear my children is sucking another man’s dick, probably as I type this, less than six months later after I broke up with her.

So believe me when I saw this, no woman will ever love you the way your mother does (IF she does, that is). These hoes ain’t loyal to no one.

Homework: So if any Blue-Pilled man is still reading this, please do yourself a favour and don’t make the same mistakes which I had made. There are no unicorns, therefore please do not delude yourself.

You need to be on your purpose 24x7. Listen to what AMS says, big man knows what he’s talking about.

So when I ask “Can a woman ever truly love you?”, the answer is a resounding no. They can love your personality and the things and the positives which are ATTACHED to you in your life, but a woman will never truly love you, ever. She may love your car, may love your job, your dog, your house but never YOU the person. So do her (and yourself) a favour, and never love her back.

The only woman who will unconditionally love you will be your own mother (it is true in my case).

I wrote this in one sitting. There may be mistakes and edits I make later on. Thanks for reading.


[-] CaptainSuckmiov 64 Points 9 months ago

Moral of the story: women do not love you - they only love how you make them feel.

Sounds like you connected pretty well and shared some good times, but as soon as you stopped making her feel good, her "love" dried up. The ultimate lesson here is that a woman's love is conditional. The only woman who will love you unconditionally is your mother.

[-] AyameNoop 1 Point 9 months ago

Briffault's Law is absolute and non-negotiable

[-] MadChestHairYuKnight 1 Point 9 months ago

Agree with everything you wrote. Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.

[-] Thotwrecker 34 Points 9 months ago

Women can love you as much as a heroin addict loves heroin. If you make her feel good enough, she'll love you and support you while you're bringing home STDs, beating the shit out of her, spending her money, alienating her, etc, doing all sorts of horrible shit.

Because women love the way you make them feel, and they love hitting those highs, they love that you give them those highs that validate their entire existence. I'm not even talking about sex or your dick game -- you give them raison d'être.

Women go absolutely fucking crazy when they are fully head over heels in love. "When a real nigga hold you down, you supposed to drown" -- Kanye was dead right. When a woman is really in love, it's like she's fucking drowned and there's nothing she can do, she's powerless and suffocated. That is how intense women love -- like a junkie loves his dope.

The real RP realization here isn't that women aren't capable of love. They love. But if you're not supplying the heroin, they're going to find someone who is. It's not that your GF was some trash slut (I mean, she was, but that's besides the point really). It's not that she isn't capable of love. You just didn't drown the bitch and keep her drowned. You gave her a taste of the dope, then she wanted more, and it turned out that you were actually baking soda.

When you own them, you own them, completely -- women will do fucking insane things for you that will blow your mind. Shit that other guys will call you a liar for if you tell them.

But, if you're not able to command her and own her and drown her in her feels, basically be wholy and consistently superior to her... then she can't love you fully, no matter how reasonable the LTR might look like on paper (or how much TRP you know).

[-] Underwood2016 3 Points 9 months ago

I check here every once in a while to read the same shit over and over again and once in a while something like this blows my mind and keeps me coming back.

[-] AvengerSentinel 2 Points 9 months ago

I agree with this comment 1000%, some of the commenters here are fuckin' incredible.

[-] studentsensei 3 Points 9 months ago

Thank you.

I roll my eyes at these catastrophic hot takes some poor sap makes about women because he had his heart broken.

"Women aren't capable of love...."

Yes. They are.

They just don't love the way that you want them to.

Boo-hoo. Cry me a river.

It isn't even about "loving conditionally" vs "loving unconditionally". I'm sorry but your dear princess isn't your blood, she's not family. Your family loves you unconditionally. Specifically your parents. It makes no sense to put that kind of burden on someone else.

Well then how do women love? They love intensely. They dive in headfirst.

You want to talk about owning a woman? I have three plates (including one ex).

My ex cheated on her ex boyfriend for me multiple times. Physically and emotionally. She said that he "was too nice".

I moved away and I cut all contact with her and she emailed me (forgot that she had my email). We talked back and forth for a little bit but nothing serious. Then months later when I mentioned that I didn't know where I wanted to go for Spring Break, she told me to visit her.

Boom. Visited her, fucked her, enjoyed the beach, and as she laid next to me she said "Is it wrong that my ex wasn't enough of a freak for me?"

On her period her ex would go over to her place and rub her back and give her chocolate.

That's cool.

On her period I eat her out and fuck her brains out. I don't give a single fuck. That's why she'll exclaim in the middle of it "You're so nasty and I love it."

And now lo and behold she wants to move away from all of her friends and family (her best friend that she's known for 15 years lives there too) just to come live in my state. Not with me....but to live in my state.


She'd rather live homeless in my state than to live with her own family and closest friend.

I could go on and on and on.

But I tell every chick the same thing before I hit it. "You will fall in love."

[-] 3rdLion 8 Points 9 months ago

Yea bro eating period really sets you apart as that alpha male

[-] studentsensei 1 Point 9 months ago

Hey man it works for me. You stick to what works for you. I don't judge.

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[-] UrbanBanger 3 Points 9 months ago

U/thotwrecker has it summed up here. Pay attention fellas

[-] DreamExpedite 2 Points 9 months ago

Whoooooa. Fucking amazing. This shit is literally so perfectly on Tim because I'm having realization after realization and the one I had yesterday can be beautifully illustrated with an example. A man would say "I love her so much" while a woman would say "I love how he makes ME FEEL". And the difference is pretty clear that while men get attached to the person who gives them the feelz, women are smart enough to attach themselves to the feelz themselves. Also, I had a question on my mind but it is a bit long so if you would answer it, I'd PM you or something?

[-] MadChestHairYuKnight 2 Points 9 months ago

I love you and your reply. I needed to read this specifically.

[-] TravisScottNL 2 Points 9 months ago

Bro you’re a fucking legend

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[-] whatdidshewrite 33 Points 9 months ago

The answer isn’t to not love them back at all, just love them equally conditionally

[-] Aesthetik_1 9 Points 9 months ago

This. No value = no love for men can only mean no sexual pleasure = no love for girls

[-] DreamExpedite 1 Point 9 months ago

Wow that's extremely articulate because it is literally the polar opposite of what seems to be ideal love nowadays - unequalled and unconditional

[-] whatdidshewrite 1 Point 9 months ago

It’s a theoretical ideal but reality doesn’t work that way

[-] Imperator_Red 30 Points 9 months ago

5'2" 185 HB5/6? Is this even possible? This height/weight is morbidly obese even for a man.

[-] Pusikur 23 Points 9 months ago

He was whit a fucken Snorlax brah

[-] lobstergenocide 19 Points 9 months ago

no wonder she gave him so many bjs, I'm surprised she could keep anything out of her mouth

[-] LaptopOnline1 3 Points 9 months ago

It was the only way she could diet.

[-] MadChestHairYuKnight 1 Point 9 months ago


Lemme add she swallowed as well.

[-] MadChestHairYuKnight 1 Point 9 months ago

It's possible, bro. I'm willing to share censored pics if you pm me.

[-] ThrowFader 16 Points 9 months ago

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[-] DerpJungler 14 Points 9 months ago

I believe today is the day when my transformation into an RP man is complete

Don't get too comfortable. The transformation is never fully completed. There's always room for improvement, physically and especially mentally. The moment you think you are "complete" is the moment you stop improving and start declining.

The story was interesting, her actions are explained by already existing theory indeed.

My point is that we should never settle by saying "i am complete". We will never be, but every damn day we strive to be.

[-] MadChestHairYuKnight 1 Point 9 months ago

I won't get complacent. I'm merely a few steps into my journey of a thousand miles.

[-] GAndGMethod 11 Points 9 months ago

Anecdotally and scientifically they can love you for a max of three years.

After that the love chemicals just kinda die out and they will branch swing or stay with you out of comfort and fuck other guys on the low.

They will never love you to death do us part.

For a men you should only fall in love once, after that eventually doesn't work out all further love after that is nothing more but a dependence formed from having no abundance.

[-] Imperator_Red 18 Points 9 months ago

I honestly think that this has a lot to do with birth control. It's not normal for two people to have sex regularly for three years with no pregnancy. There is probably some sort of evolutionary mechanism that starts telling her to move on because the man is infertile, which makes perfect sense. Before birth control a woman would have spent a large part of her adult life either pregnant or nursing. I wonder if that would have tampered down this three year itch thing.

[-] MadChestHairYuKnight 1 Point 9 months ago

That's such a great point. I've never thought about it before.

[-] TheBadGoy 7 Points 9 months ago

What married boomers here don't realize is that in the past women's hypergamy was chained down by three things, Fear of violence, fear of religion(witch burnings, public humiliation), and lack of resources(no jobs or money). Without these three things women are free to fuck you in the ass with no consequences

[-] MadChestHairYuKnight 6 Points 9 months ago

I am unsure what the perfect flair should be. Would appreciate if a mod re-flairs this if I made a mistake.

[-] monsieurhire2 5 Points 9 months ago

Will you love her when she hits the wall? How about when she's 90 and smells like fish?

It's easy to love someone who is young, healthy, wealthy, charming, talented, virtuous, etc., and not so easy when they are the opposite of these things.

Also, people tend to take each other for granted after awhile, so there's that.

[-] adam-l 4 Points 9 months ago

Will you love her when she hits the wall? How about when she's 90 and smells like fish

As a matter of fact, I believe that most (some?) men are capable of what people think "love" is. For men, there is this stage of "Agape", truly caring about the other, which often comes after Eros, after "in love".

Women, on the other hand, can only be "in love", and when that is lost, nothing remains.

As I see it, the fact that women cannot love is the essence of the Red Pill.

But this doesn't mean we need to question whether men themselves can love. Men need to carefully guard their love, these times, but this is another question.

[-] MadChestHairYuKnight 1 Point 9 months ago

I loved her when she weighs more than me, didn't I?

I would say my love for her was pretty solid unconditional till she thought it was OK to abuse my parents verbally.

[-] monsieurhire2 1 Point 9 months ago

Only you can say for sure. Some guys are conditional with their love.

[-] MikeTyson91 1 Point 9 months ago

Will you love her when she hits the wall? How about when she's 90 and smells like fish?

That's extremes. Most unloved men, whom TRP hits like hammer, are not "hitting the wall" and also not "90 and smelling like fish".

[-] INNASKILLZ2K18 4 Points 9 months ago

There is more in this than simply 'women will never love you'.

You have to look at other things in you. Why did you believe a person who says they love you, when they haven't even had time to get to know you? Why did you ignore signs of someone who obviously wasn't healthy? What bullshit blue pill lies were you told to be, which would net something in return? Why did you feel the need to rescue?

These are important things to look at, uncover and change. That's one of the major parts of unplugging. Vet people, pay attention to flags, treat women as people, too, and watch for the unhealthy shit. Put yourself first, from now on.

In a sense, we create our own reality. You also have to look at the parts of you which allowed a relationship like this. Gain self-awareness and change those things, so you survive from now on in the real world.

Good luck, and forget about this women. She tried to play you, from what I see. Be glad you can move forward.


[-] JagsDontCare 4 Points 9 months ago

aye mods can we start deleting dudes post that are new to the game. I'm sick of their same perspective personally

[-] anonymous7499 4 Points 9 months ago

Love in and of itself is not a stable aspect to base a relationship on. You bring up the fact that if a woman could ever truly love you, that all would be well. However, that is a common mistake that both women and men (especially in the secular West) make.

Love is a feeling at a minimum. When that feeling goes away, the thing that kept her with you is no longer there. If you had no other superficial qualities to keep her, then that's when she's out the door.

[-] Dane50 3 Points 9 months ago

I’m still stuck on her height to weight ratio. Sounds like you fell in love with a fucking manatee.

On a brighter note glad that it spawned your awakening.

[-] MadChestHairYuKnight 1 Point 9 months ago

Honestly, I love fat chicks, they're just soft everywhere. It's my problem.

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[-] lobstergenocide 3 Points 9 months ago

real conclusion: even fatties think you're not good enough if you aren't constantly on your A-game

[-] MadChestHairYuKnight 1 Point 9 months ago

I don't think this would've happened if it didn't turn into a LDR.

[-] Psychological_Radish 3 Points 9 months ago

So when I ask “Can a woman ever truly love you?”, the answer is a resounding no.

Of course love is conditional. At least you recognize that. But is that really such a bad thing? Is the Blue Pill dream of sitting around, getting fat, and letting your Game slip really something to aspire to?

More to the point, though, I reject the notion that women are totally incapable of love even when the man's 'burden of performance' becomes too heavy to bear. Plenty of wives continue caring for elderly husbands who are mentally or physically incapacitated. Explain that one.

[-] MadChestHairYuKnight 1 Point 9 months ago

Exceptions prove the rule, no?

My father created in my mother hundreds of times and my mother still didn't leave him.

She takes care of him in his old age and is resentful, but they're still together.

That's an exception right there. She never lived him, ever.

[-] dynospectrum7 2 Points 9 months ago

Other than possibly your mother, no.

[-] djthiago1 2 Points 9 months ago

Of course. Dont mix conditional and unconditional love tho, mama loves you forever, your wife doesnt.

[-] plascra 2 Points 9 months ago

By our definition? No.

By her definition? Yes.

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[-] ChrimsonChin988 1 Point 9 months ago

Good answer: who cares

[-] FUCK_SNITCHES_ 1 Point 9 months ago

She was a journalist

That was the real red flag

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[-] converts_to_ISO 1 Point 9 months ago

For the rest of the world:


  • 185lb ≈ 84kg

  • 5ft 2in ≈ 1,575m


  • 1.200SM ≈ 1,9Mm

^(This conversion was done according to ISO80000, the 1824 British Weights and Measures Act, and the 1893 Mendenhall Order.)

^(I'm a human trying to spread awareness about the importance of international standards. Pls don't ban. :'()

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